ALIENS - The Tragic Rescue Mission of the Colonial Marines
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ALIENS - The Tragic Rescue Mission by the Colonial Marines
In this video I talk about the early rescue mission in James Cameron's Aliens to retrieve the lost colonists in Hadley's Hope on LV-426. I hope you enjoy and please feel free to leave feedback or simply just discuss your own thoughts about the scenes in the comment section below as I always respond to everyone.
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Very enjoyable and informative analysis of this classic film. I'm old enough to have seen Alien and Aliens in the theatre and of course was completely floored by both. Ridley Scott's original was simply unlike anything that had come before it in it's look and feel. The crew with their dinner table conversations in the opening scenes talking about job descriptions and bonus pay, The look of the Nostromo with it's corridors of hanging chains and dripping water and truly terrifying alien creatures. Cameron's follow up was so different with the military theme and yet stands on it's own as such a worthy successor. I agree with all your points, especially about how it's it's practical effects and realistic hardware is so superior to much of today's cartoonish CGI. Some of those Marvel movies. Yikes. Fellow Canadian Denis Villeneuve is keeping it real in the Dune films as well. By the way I would love to see you take more trips "down memory lane" and always look forward to your content.
Big thanks once again Mark. I'm envious of your cinematic first viewing of these films. I'm not young but sadly missed out of the experience of all that. Luckily I do have fond memories of discovering these treasures on VHS as a kid and sneakily watching them without my parents knowing haha. I also enjoyed Dune and look forward to watching the second. I think I'll be talking about The Thing next as this is for me on par with Alien and I love everything about that film also. Thanks again for your support dude, take care.
Being an 8 year old in the early 90s meant I could bunk off of school, watch Die Hard, and watch Aliens. It was total bliss. Left alone in the house and absolutely piling in to my dad’s coveted VHS collection. Thanks for placing the rose tinted spectacles for me. Great video.
@@insertguitaremoji haha! You're welcome. I also remember pulling a sickie and watching Terminator, Lethal Weapon, Aliens and mad max some days. Those were the days my friend. 😉
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE 🙏🏻🙏🏻
This, Sir, is a great breakdown and analysis. As a survivor species it is entirely plausible they hibernate when there is a lack of food to sustain significant activity. And with seemingly no-one left alive in the colony they wouldn't need to go for walks looking for extra food.
Your narration, points and ideas are absolutely masterful !
That means a lot to me as I worked hard on this vid and sadly RUclips has put it in on a dusty shelf 😟. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the feedback buddy.
Your work is truly masterful!! The analysis of the movie is brilliantly delivered, dude even tho the likes and the views dont make you justice, please dont give up, and give us more awesome content!! Oh and my favorite character in this movie was Vasquez, not only does she share my last name but she was a badasss latina soldier and around that time not many latinos were represented, soo she was like the best in my eyes when i was little, one of my platonic chrushes when i was young!!! Good work dude!!!
Super kind words Jamie and all the more reason for me to keep enjoying my passion projects here on RUclips, thanks so much dude 😎. Wow, yeah it's wonderful when you are able to find a character so relatable as a kid watching these brilliant films, especially when they share your name. I always wanted to be Like Michael Biehn from the terminator as a kid, epic acting from that man in all his films. But I agree with you on Vasquez, she at least to me was able to represent not only a different culture but women soldiers in a way that felt natural and not forced like you see nowadays. Complete f*****g badass indeed. Glad you liked the vid and yes, many more to come my friend, stay tuned and stay entertained 👍
Well done & spot on, mate. I think the entire mission to LV426 was a direct concoction by W-Y from the very beginning. Else why would they put someone like Gorman in charge of it unless it was setup to fail. The fact that Burke was "along for the ride" is the main cue. As many others think, the decision to "kill off" Newt & Hicks at the beginning of A3 was a slap in the face to the fans, but that rant belongs in another place and time. Cheers. :)
@@briano6115 thank you very much 👍. There are so many subtitles and hidden clues that allow the audience to alter the story in their head in Aliens. Hence why we love this franchise so much. I can't wait to start working on my "Was Gorman compromised all along?" Video soon 😉
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Cheers mate. Damn fine work here :)
Bill Paxtons lines are classic stuff "What are we supposed to use? harsh language?"
Count me out...
I don't wanna rain on your parade but that's Frost who says the harsh language line. 😁
🎯@@BoopedNose
Wrong, it was Frost. Frost had lots of great lines: "I guess she don't like the cornbread, either",. Or "What the hell are we supposed to use, man, harsh language?"
Plus lots of mistakes in this otherwise good analysis video.
@@dazm901 nah that 2 nd line was definitely Bill 😁
all this time ago, i can see cameron planning the unfolding of the tragic events after coming in cock sure of winning by their cutting edge weapons, realizing only too late how ineffective they are in the face of such a determined opponent.
@@ronelitzur856 hehe! The smart gun still impresses me though. Never knew until recently that it fires plasma instead of bullets, pretty high tech! 😲
The best movie sequel ever. Action, adventure, suspense and horror all in one amazing package. A true classic. Cameron took Ridley Scott’s xenomorph and gave it more depth and detail. His additions make the creature equally chilling, but way more dangerous. I do believe that the hosts are food for the hive and are tidied away once they have served their purpose. The “Runner” Alien in Alien 3 was seen to consume its victims having killed them, I believe the same would be true of other Xenomorphs. Great video.
Thanks very much. Always great to share this love for the franchise with other fans. You made a great point with the alien in the 3rd film feeding. It adds some info on what I was expressing. Take care buddy
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE thank you for the videos and providing fans of the franchise with a forum to air their thoughts. 👍
57 years have passed since the company last tried to get a Xeno - anyone who has worked in records management will tell you how easy it is for the past to become forgotten. The company simply forgot all about the Xeno in that time - Burk was the only company man interested and the whole operation was his idea, the larger organisation just thought it was a downed transmitter.
@@PucknellProductions that's a reasonable assessment just based on Alien 3 as well, but I suppose we now have Romulus to spark further theories as to what the company were up to.
Always enjoy your content. Posting a comment to bump your channel for "The Algorithm".
Many many thanks buddy, have a great day 😎
You are right, all the signs were there, yet "Is this gonna be a stand-up fight, Sir, or just another bug hunt?" implying the Marines had been in stand-up fights with something and hunted bugs before, this line has always um bugged me.
The fact Gorman had "combat drops" shows they were fighting something, who were the fighting the Soviet Union?
Hudson also made light of the fact that Ripley (Snow White) had seen an alien before, suggesting that it was common for them. I wonder what hostile life forms they might have encountered in neighbouring systems?
Apparently nothing as exciting as an acid filled Xenomorph, not like we can use them to deliver groceries back on Earth.
love this film best one
@@ianroberts5387 one of the best in the genre 😎
100 percent! 💯
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Thank you SGS
I'm only 2 minutes into the video, but I can tell you exactly where this mission went wrong. When Ripley points out that the marines are directly under the reactor and firing their weapons may inadvertently trigger a nuclear explosion. And for some unfathomable reason, they think the logical thing to do is to collect all the ammo from the soldiers, leaving them with only a flame thrower and a shotgun for protection. How the hell does this make any sense? You are going to send in the marines, totally without adequate fire power, against questionably the most vicious creature in the known universe? They didn't think that perhaps backing out so that they can reassess the situation, might be the better option???
One thing I always found funny about that scene, is when Ripley is screaming at Gorman to get his men out of there, you are hearing the marines on their radios, yelling for everyone to retreat. Gorman didn't need to say anything, the marines were already doing it. Or at least attempting to do it.
Anyways, I don't know if this video is going to address anything I just talked about, so we will just have to see.
@@jeremybr2020 haha! I believe I do address this issue and I say they definitely should have turned back 👍. I think many people had similar views and apprehensions. Enjoy the vid dude.
Xenomorphs are non-obligate lithovores. They can ingest, plastic, rocks, dirt, metal, and glass. The dorsal vents on their backs are able to inhale massive amounts of air and moisture, which is why they drool so much. Oxygen is the primary catalyst of cells. You could think of wood logs as fuel for a fire, but the xenomorphs are able to bypass this for long periods of time. Although eventually they will need some form of material nutrition. Typically they prefer what their host ate, but don't explicitly require that specific diet to survive. They maintain their mass and form from being in direct contact with the creeping secretion of the nest. As long as they are able to return to the nest, they won't need to consume any material.
People often forget that they are synthetic biomechanical constructs, given - consciousness. They are a perfect union of the organic and mechanical.
@@originalprecursor very nice read with some solid logic. I've always appreciated their biomechanical nature but if they are truly silicon based then I suppose it explains their acid for blood and potentially traits to be able to break down inorganic substances as well.
Really enjoyable walk-though of the movie. You're right - what happened to the 'pups' or advanced scanning of the area? I always wondered why a military unit with androids on-board wouldn't send them as an advanced team, as tactical recon. They could relay video and essential feeds, via a portable uplink and plant a charge, to draw the attention of the Xenos - flush them out, so a proper assessment could be made. Also Burke and Ripley weren't required on the surface - they could've remained on the Sulaco; once the team was on the surface, Burke could've drugged Ripley, placed her in stasis and take the drop ship with a company android to the the alien wreaked spaceship, extract an egg or two in a suitable container and returned. Easy way to implant Ripley, nuke the colony site from orbit and return home.. or to a Wayland remote science facility, to study their prize.
@@ozmozis6073 when you think of things in those terms, you're right. But then, of course the movie has to be fun and engaging so guess we ultimately got the best Aliens film possible. It's also great that it leaves us guessing 👌. Thanks for the kind words buddy 👍
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE You're right. there's the suspense and thrill of the hunt. I'm not sure if the film was made today, if the military tactics would remain the same. We're well aware of drones, to deliver weapons and perform recon, as human life with training and experience has value. What was lacking was the strategy of distraction which has been used in combat for hundreds of years, to draw the enemy out and assess their threat. It's what I like about the Predator Vs Aliens. The Wolf knows combat.
Thanks so much for your work. It's good.
@@ozmozis6073 thanks buddy 👍
I believe that the company had some dirt on Gorman and knew they could use it to control him if needed while on the mission. That’s why he was selected to lead this team of misanthropes. It’s very evident with the scene in which the face huggers are put into the room with Ripley and Newt. Just before she goes in there she passes Gormans room. And who is in there with him? Burke. I started thinking how would a soft as marshmallow fluff, corporate stooge, Burke able to lift those tanks and dump them into the room without help. He couldn’t have. Gorman must have helped him. Burke was probably in his room reminding him of the dirt they had on him and telling him to help get Ripley and Newt impregnated. Also at the beginning of the movie. It’s Burke and Gorman that show up at Riply’s apartment to convince her to go.
Excellent theory my dude. It makes perfect sense and the same can be said about many politicians 😉. I wish I added that the video now, if only I thought that far into it. I love movies that don't over explain and leave room for such possibilities.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Hey thanks dude. You could probably make a video on that theory alone. I got really excited when it first hit me. I even tried contacting James Cameron on Instagram. Asked him if I was right. But of course he never replied. Lol. I’m with you on the over explaining things. Way too much of that in movies these days. I always thought Predator was a great example of successfully getting a story across without a lot of dialogue or narration. There’s enough subtle suggestions that convey what the being was. And enough left out to make your imagination go wild. Which made it that much more frightening.
Great channel btw. I’m enjoying all your videos.
This is a great point. I shall re-watch just to catch this scene. It would point to how incredibly smart James Cameron is in story- and screen-writing to have this little scene to plug any potential plot holes. With people realising there may be one. I certainly hadn't considered how Burke got the test tubes of the pedestals and into the room by himself. Two of them even. Well done!
@@Gentleman_Jester cheers buddy. Awesome that you reached out to Cameron at least. I wonder if people this big only ever have their admin staff deal with social media but it's a nice thought that he may have seen it perhaps. If I ever get loads more subs I was going to try and ask for an interview and just spend hours formulating questions that have never been asked before 😎👌 but very unlikely to happen.
@@kellysmith1144 very true and a great excuse to re watch. I also will look at Gorman's expression after they find out his plan and Hudson wants to waste him. Maybe he was hoping for his demise...
Why did the xenos let the marines so far into the hive? To quote admiral Akbar, “IT’S A TRAP”. A good ambushing technique is to let the targets get deep into the trap, so they can’t escape easily. The Xenos wanted to get the marines as deep inside the hive as possible, before springing the trap.
@@tracybrandt9524 could be! The Xenos appeared to be asleep until they used the flamethrower and they heard the cries of the chestburster. Either way, what you say is still true. As they woke up when the marines were too far in.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE asleep or camouflaged, like a sniper in a ghillie suit?
I see this scene as a reconstruction of the vietnam war's early days. The American's were overconfident had very little understanding of how the enemy fought, lived, survived and thought. They threw themselves into situations that got them killed in far greater numbers than needed. They were sometimes overrun by a seemingly less equipped enemy. Worse of all they were sent by a government who were more concerned about an outcome rather than individual lives.
@@czr7j9 yeah that's a good analogy. I've seen enough of those movies to get the comparison. Significantly more humans screwing each other over for a god damm percentage in the Vietnam films of course 😉
I would think they would send in a drone first to get intel.
@@scottharris1985 the Prometheus pups 😉
I have a theory about why the aliens didn’t attack the marines straight away and maybe they were no threat until they used the toasted the chest burster and the alien hiss we here is the queen alerting the hive to the threat!! Just a theory lol
Yeah so maybe they lay dormant until the Queen gives orders etc. It could be that the aliens possess great instincts and survival abilities unless there is a queen and then they simply become drones perhaps?
Or they could have been hibernating as they are too much of a hostile species to just sit and wait especially as the Marines where already in the hive. They act like ants in their hostility towards anything not related to the hive so that doesn't sound right. Just a theory.....mostly...
@@1_THE_MAN_1 yeah it's just wonderful that it never gets explained right? I bet Romulus will explain too much whilst these older films retained their mysteries and keeping the fans forever guessing like now haha
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE The hibernation aspect mentioned is canon.
@@shep182 oh you mean in the comics or within the films? I remember them mentioning it in a discussion I think.
How many combat drops 2 including this one and collect all magazine from everyone. Red flags
Somehow I feel like he came out of uni and went straight into middle management, same vibes you know...
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Excellent
Analysing Aliens for military incompetence is a Rabbit hole of glorious proportions. Every sensible tactic and standard procedure was ignored . If they had been Royal Marines , this film would have been done in an hour with a successful mission . Admittedly , with most of thier kit scrounged off the US. Anyway , who cares , great film , well acted , scripted , with great special effects . Sci fi classic.
@@adm65260 very true. Still would have been impossible to save the colonists perhaps but the military tactics were only suited to the dramatic purposes of the film haha! One of the best, I agree 👍
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE very true, the colonists were hugger food by then . Love this film , it will never be bettered , no matter how many bad sequals are made . Dont get me started with Covenent .
First person to even consider they weren't already dead at start of the investigation 😂 funny how even in 2200 marines are forced to use outdated gear w crap cameras 😂😂 the squad seem like they never saw much real action. Just settlers a "bug hunts" they were never ready for what they walked into. They were there more as conformation of threat then to actually wipe it out. Hence aliens 4
Omg 9:55 the shotgun was not hidden! 😂😂 didn't you watch the film? They were told no armor piercing only chose quarters weapons. Aka handgun and shotgun vs long rifle
Mathew impressed the director an made him wish he'd written more for him after seeing him on set on camera.
Ahh Newt. She represented Ripleys now adult deceased daughter. A mother wo a child am child wo a mother. Literally the only two humans known to have survived the terror. She found purpose in Newt. It was her rebirth in a world that was not her time. Corman was a newb but was not a bad guy. He redeemed himself vs the corporate guy locked them out near end even afterward they chose to let him live knowing he planned on ending them all on way home
I also am gonna make a vid on the possibility that Gorman was compromised and aided Burke ;)
Aliens was best movie non stop action, battles with countless aliens, should do this again so I think Romulus will fail and be boring 🫣
It was perfect. My fav is Hicks!
I remember wanting to be like Michael Biehn when I was a kid haha, great characters he played.
Action done right buddy. Can we even compare Cameron to Alvarez? Not so sure ;)