@Unfast Fairy guy I actually re-wrote this comment like 4 times in attempts to not sound like I was trying to be deep/edgy. I removed the second half of the sentence: “hence why the chais/floor are out of shot, as the gallery used to present the painting would replace them.” But not only is that a stretch, but it made me sound like a pretentious art teacher lol. Seems like It didn’t work haha.
@@thesensur6214 I mean, that was literally the point. Religious art was and is designed to make people feel like a part of it, to invest themselves into these stories
@@chiihasagi7430 Lol true. You go through an art school, and maybe you paint only abstract after it, but chances are you have drawn hundreds, even thousands of anatomy studies, thus you carry this inner demon which makes you scream things like "The hand is too big and the arm sorta grows from the chest in that drawing!"
@@chiihasagi7430, Dude, it's the basics of drawing. Perspective, anatomy, lighting. If you haven't practiced them, your art won't look cool, no matter how hard you try. Only someone who knows how to draw a normal person(for starters) can stylize characters.
I thought I was the only one who thought this video was bullshit, I'm glad to see I wasn't. "They're all standing on the same side of the table in the last supper painting, WHY?!?! Well don't worry because i will tell you! It's because it's a painting, so they have to all be visible" Wow good job bro, you just taught me shit i learned in 2nd grade.
@@Spellbook Oh ok, I guess I'm just so much smarter than everyone else (I'm not). I don't even paint or draw. But I do have enough critical thinking skills to take 5 seconds to think/analyze a painting. I guess you've never done art in your whole life so I'm gonna blow your mind right now: Unlike a picture, when you paint a portrait you have to paint EVERYTHING. Every line, every color, every shadow. So yeah, no painter in their fucking right mind is gonna paint a portrait of 12 deciples If half of them are gonna be painted with their backs turned, so of course they're all gonna be on the same side. Fucking art 101 right there.
I pointed that last supper thing out to dad and he immediately said "they're probably just watching a footy game on the big screen" so yeah that's what's really happening there
@@bitterlemonboy just look up canon. Basically, when someone says something is canon, that means that that must have been what happened. Obviously, it's usually sarcastic, but in this case it means that in the joke, Da Vinci actually painted this image with the understanding that they are watching tv
Fun Fact: Cats was originally going to be a CGI animated film done by the art director of Kung Fu Panda. You can find some of the original drafts for designs online and it’s absolutely brilliant. It’s a shame it got scrapped.
My understanding of this quote would be: Art shouldn't 100% resemble reality, that would be something photographing would do. Instead it is the reality of reflection, reality being what you end up making, reflection being the way you see things through your eyes.
Nah I just meant to learn important art stuff and interestings theories and hear different opinions in an informal setting from educated people that aim to teach you with genuine interest and hope that you find something interesting or informational. I'm a strong believer that you don't need an expensive education in order to be good at something, especially art forms,I was just tryna be funny
I’m so happy you defended Realism in the way you did, and pointed out that it’s not a “useless” style, and has so much potential for nuance. So many pretentious people that think you can only go full photographically realistic ness or over the top cartoony.
He never would’ve said that because he designed the hands intentionally larger because The Statue of David was meant to be placed high up on a building ... not down on floor level inside a museum.
I love that your channel has kinda turned into an "analysis" of different trends, and sub-genres of art. Its pretty crazy to think that you came from yelling at people on Devientart haha.
Yes! Also all the art channels that would kinda analyze art trends are just regular drama channels now. It’s mostly challenges so I don’t really watch art related channel. He’s one of the last art commentary channels
Meh. It’s all subjective BAHAHAHAHAHA.... ugh. To me the dude is just spewing out the day of school he showed up to. And yeah, I just can’t hop on the band wagon. He’s too, I guess firm in what is BOT concrete fact. Which cool, but a ton of contradictions in his videos if ya binge. He does have many good aspects to his channel. I think I’m similar enough to him that I find him off putting. I wish I wasn’t that way. Have a good one!
i wish my art teacher was an actual art teacher, not only she teach nothing but "draw this from this book" she also never come to class like every week. Though, she teach music pretty good.
The only thing that still gets me are people who use the "it's my style" excuse when their work is called into question. They break the rules without understanding the rules, which makes their breakage of them meaningless and hollow. I just can't get over the mentality those people have because it reminds me of all those people in my art classes who were only there for the "easy A" and got upset when they didn't get one.
Precisely. You don’t know how many times I’ve been on an art tutorial and there are people in the comments that say “Um, there’s more than one way to draw something! Don’t say what’s wrong and what’s right!” I wonder why they even go on the tutorial if they don’t want to hear other people describing their vision and process.
So true! Those "but it's my style!" people often don't realize that artists with more experience will immediately know it's an excuse for not understanding the fundamentals, anatomy, etc. When the "it's my style" phrase is true, the artist doesn't even need to state it. We all understand by looking at the art that the artist made the conscious decision to simplify/exaggerate/enhance something using their vast artistic knowledge.
right??? Some people just like to copy random stylized elements without even knowing what they’re stylizing or if they should even use it. a good artist would be able to explain their design choices, a bad artist doesn’t know why they do what they do and just uses a lame excuse. Also the fact that people let small techniques define their style. Timmy, the random, solid black shadow under your character’s neck doesn’t make it “your style.” In fact, you just copied the technique from someone on social media. It’s a combination of techniques and how you interpret things that makes your art yours.
Also theres a difference between realism and hyper realism. Theres plenty of room for expression in realistic art by the way you use colors, brush strokes etc. Hyper realism at best is the as good as the picture it is copying. You cannot make it better or more expressive.
Why settle for something that's only impressive when you can have something impressive YET expressive. The argument for hyperrealism in traditional medium is DEAD a long long time ago when photography surfaced.
In Party in the USA, as Miley is leaving LAX, she says “Look to my right and I see the Hollywood sign” when in fact leaving LAX you would see the Hollywood sign out of the left car window
"in another, more famous example of anatomical distortion, one may notice that Michelangelos statue of David..." oooooh hes gonna talk about the tiny pp "... has a head and hands-" Oh
Hey guys wanna know the real reason the statue has a tiny pp? During the time of Michealangelo big pp was considered vulgar and brutish. Hence, smol pp. True story.
@Cyberdemon Mike actually, not EVERYONE, some people (the majority) have the "grower" which is the one that you say, and some people have the "shower" and this one, don't change his size
One of the things I love about Breath of the Wild is that it seems to use a base of hyper-realism but then make it highly fantastical and pastel-styled. It looks really beautiful, and that’s why it’s my favorite version of Hyrule.
Solar: They definitely meant to make the feet smaller to make the piece more appealing to look at. The artist back then: crap i made the feet small. eh whatever
Ah, pictures of food, like burgers. I was actually pleasantly weirded out in South Korea when the food I was served looked exactly like the picture, at least until I started eating. Pretty impressive presentation...
Expanding on the whole food styling thing- we can’t smell through screens and half of the time we find something appetising because of its smell SO products do kinda NEED to be idealised to make up for the lack of scent
@@rosiefay7283you’re right, in a fair and just world companies wouldn’t have to lie and exaggerate to target consumers But markets are so competitive that you either sink or float so it’s more of a systematic issue with consumerism than individual companies then again there are of course times where it goes too far 😅
Can someone explain to me, how we went from "Haha inflation and fetishes drawn in MSpaint" to "Hm, yes, indeed... Sometimes "unrealistically" drawn pieces of modern artwork portray the ideas conveyed in reality subtly, yet more effectively than their "more realistic" counterparts."
6:34 is genuinely the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. Imagine being utterly fascinated and philosophizing over a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
wow you clearly don't understaand the infinite intricacies and symbolic meanings contained in a peanut butter sandwich. It's a common comfort food for children evoking a strong sense of I'm just kidding it's only a sandwich.
I hate the feet thing. I tried to paint someone with their feet on the table multiple time, and their feet always look either too small or too fetishized. There is really no in-between
I wanna add something about the Last Supper: the painting isn't actually in Santa Maria delle Grazie Church but in the convent attached to it. Leonardo was commissioned to paint one of the refectory's wall and he decided to paint the Last Supper.Jesus and all the apostles are sitting all on one side of the table not only because it looks way better like that, but also so they could face the monks while they were eating, to create a sort of inclusion in the scene. Andddd it's really smart.
What if I told you that it was painted flat because it represents the Celestial throne of God, the Zodiac. Starting on the left with Aries, Taurus, Cancer, Gemini, Leo. Mary at Jesus' right is not Mary but Virgo, and has an Adams Apple, which is why it is being pointed at by Leo. Mirrored in the Sphinx, head of Virgo on body of a Lion, Leo. The Zodiac, or Mazzaroth, is the Throne of God in the Heavens. The 24 Elders, While the Kingdom of God is within you. Luke 17:21 2 sets of 12 Cranial Nerves.
Not just that but a painting of his Crucifixion was on the other side of the wall, so not only were they placed to face the monks/nuns, but Jesus is also looking to his future
Something I wish you touched upon is that the modern obsession with realism extends beyond even just visual art but into other mediums as well. I can't tell you how much I wince every time I hear a film being criticized for having 'unrealistic dialogue' or an 'unrealistic plot', particularly if the plot incorporates elements of magical realism. One of my favorite recent films is 'The Killing of a Sacred Deer' yet time and time again people seem to complain about how 'bad' the acting is, how stiff and monotonous everyone speaks. People seem unable to grasp this sort of thing as a deliberate artistic choice that adds an extra dimension to the piece. I'd love to see more creatives out there like Yorgos Lanthimos or Charlie Kaufman, yet if box office numbers are to audiences seem utterly uninterested in anything that experiments beyond conventional depictions of human interaction. Video games seem to be the only medium where subversion of realism is commonplace, mostly out of necessity for gameplay reasons, historical technological limitations, and to avoid tedium, yet as graphics increase in fidelity, there seems to be this large push, particularly from AAA western developers towards this perceived ultimate goal of hyper-realism in both graphics and gameplay (see: Red Dead Redemption 2), and it is likely the reason why most games worth even playing these days are small projects coming out of indie studios.
To be honest the concept 'magical realism' itself only exists because of this. Because in the Englishspeaking world it is seen as distinct and noteworthy instead of just normal freedom of fiction. They also take this and emphasise it as distinct in their own works, which tends to the miss the mark as a result, a codified gimmick. But yeah. I think the attachment to supposed realism or accuracy, especially from laymen criticising something, is because they don't have anything else to say or aren't able to say anything else. It's the same with people focusing on worldbuilding, plot, and characters (that is, their shallow personal like or dislike, and nothing about the relation to themes and aesthetics and other factors together in a piece of media). Emphasis on these three things, especially when judgement of 'good' amounts to what they feel is realistic (which may not actually be so realistic but nonetheless tries to assume the authority of what is real/true/accurate), is because they don't understand the craft, they don't understand what makes a good story or experience. It is a kind of cultural decay and disconnect wrought by science literalism and abusing low-hanging fruit for content and gotchas. It's annoying because it's talking about anything but the actual work.
Not to mention the artistic choice within a realistic game like Red Dead Redemption 2, this game doesn't have the same realism as Naughty Dog games, or The Witcher 3 and recently Resident Evil 4 Remake, are distinct and unique visual choices each with a stylized realism whether it's good or not, but that is reduced to 4K and now look how the new generation is more realistic GTA 6 will be even more realistic and in the end, whatever the art direction that the company brought to this world.
Can we just talk about how realistic yet unrealistic anime is. Like sometimes it looks just like the real world, but then again the faces & stuff dont.
Man, whenever I watch this channel, it always seems to inspire me to paint and test my limits as an artist. Create. Experiment. Fail. Try again. It's hard to do that sometimes, but stuff like this reminds me it's always good to try to test yourself, experiment, and have fun doing it with art, and that it isn't so bad if you can't figure it out yet, you'll get it eventually.
one time i saw someone (it might’ve been an article) call disney sexist for giving their animated princesses big eyes, while the guys typically had eyes with realistic proportions. like bro it’s just an art style, not “setting unrealistic beauty standards/making it seem like women are only valuable for their looks” or some reach like that. i don’t know why some people can’t just appreciate cartoon styles without feeling the need to make it realistic in order to consider it “good”
@@SOCKS_RABBIT its fiction, its not supposed to be realistic. this is like when people got mad at disney for giving ariel a small waist. like, shes a literal mermaid. of course it isnt an accurate depiction of reality
@@luxinvictus9018 Dafuq would you type in 'realistic', keep searching out these sites and keep watching them, then? Did you expect they'd maybe not do realistic drawings? 🤔😜😂😂😂
I’m glad I clicked on this video.I haven’t paid much attention to art in a long time, but the paintings shown at the beginning are spectacular. These artists definitely have a gift. To be able to conceive these visuals, and then transfer these images to canvas is mind blowing.
I really love your shift from browsing DeviantArt to discussion of art things and history. I still love to see DeviantArt, but this seems more like your choice and it's very fun Edit: Realism is so overrated by many people, especially in elite art circles. Realism can be grueling, and take forever. I think in some ways, stylization can take just as much if not more effort than making art look just like real life, because you have to find out how to do it right. I prefer stylization over realism just because of how much people think realism is the only route.
i feel like i have a bit of a stylized-realism style in my art. it's hard to say for me since it's my style and i don't have too much knowledge of what certain aspects of art looks like, but i know i do mostly try to go for realism in my pieces, but most of the time i just end up putting a bit of a stylistic look in it. i think it sounds unique, although im sure other people have done this.
I have a way of drawing where I get references for what i wanna draw, i do a bunch of drawings of it as anatomically correct as i can, and then i stylize it. Its much more fun than feeling like you need to draw a hyper realistic painting of your subject before you can stylise
Some of the principles regarding stylization out there are great. There was an excellent theory on color theory for art that another youtuber did. I personally adhere to asymmetrical theory when taking extracting photos (extracted from videos) of sunsets amidst the landscape. Asymmetrical body language is also often considered very attractive for posing people for photographs. One artist whom I greatly admire is Claude Lorraine, he is a master of putting the most dramatic part of a landscape scene in the central focus, and his use of color is quite a feast for the eyes.
I just love how SolarSands started as a sarcastic critic of what's on deviant art and weird fetishes and moved to making deep analytical videos about various topics related to art. All with keeping the same level of entertainment as looking at some wierd kid's oc but gaining some information instead. Wow. This channel honestly is underrated now and am waiting for it to grow even more.
I noticed that in a lot of experienced artists, they use blocks of colors instead sketching. I think it's a really useful method and makes things easier.
*I think art is about exploration.* Whether the discoveries made are good or bad I think it’s important to allow them to happen. Saying something should be only realistic or even only stylistic is something that stifles artistic exploration. You can call art bad or good, but to say that it shouldn’t exist at all is to put boundaries on art when art best grows through limitless possibilities for experimentation.
Oh my god. I was boppin to the music and I was wondering why it was so good. And then it struck me it's the soundtrack for Novalis in the original ratchet and clank. I love you so much. Thank you.
In the art school I got to, our teachers ask students: "Why don't you just take a picture of your subject if all you want to achieve is something as close to reality as possible?" As first year students this confused us at first, because like you said, many people think that more realism = better. But by not sticking to photo realism, you can add so much more to your work.
@@turbotrup96 the problem with realistic looking games is that they age very quickly, like compare Heavy Rain with Detroit, while stylized games are able to look good even today, for example compare Mario Galaxy and Mario Odyssey, even if Galaxy doesn't look as advanced as Odyssey, it still looks beautiful.
One of my favourite distortions is Michelangelo's Pieta, where Mary's figure is depicted so much larger than an actual woman, to give the sense of her motherhood and guardian quality, I just love how that statue turned out, it's genius
15:27 really put into words why I'm not excited to see someone's hyper-realistic portrait despite the obvious talent and skill. Another great video and love seeing your uploads in my subscription box!
That’s why I’ll only ever reach a realistic level of drawing purely for learning purposes; realism in the form that we see it in media like Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat/TikTok etc. today is almost always the same thing. No offense to those artists because it’s not easy to emulate real life, and I can appreciate a talented artist, but why would I want to see that when I see it anyways every day? I find it much more fun to push the boundaries of reality and create psychedelic pictures that stimulate the mind and catch your eye while making you really think about what you’re seeing; only instead of painting it, I’d like to make it move.
Yeah, as a practicing artist I found it pretty awkward and daunting; maybe a casual onlooker wouldn’t find too much wrong with it but I feel like it wouldn’t have been much of a sacrifice to make it more proportionally accurate..
Been there since one of his First Deviant Art rants. I've seen all his phases: his obsessive Zootipia Phase, his first Pixel Arts, the sweatshirt parody songs and even the streams where he read the bee movie script with his little brother. It's crazy to see how grown up he's become haha. Keep up the great work Solar Sands
I love that he mentioned Spider verse! I absolutely adored the style choice in that movie and wish more shows or movies were like that. It was just enough realistic to be recognizable while also keeping the aspect of a more stylized comic look! Like adding the little comic words like "zap!" Next to a character. It's so unique in its own beautiful way 😌
I know you're joking, but for anyone who doesn't understand the thumbnail, it was a visual demonstration of the Last Supper's anachronistic qualities, altering it in a similarly anachronistic way that immediately stands out to modern viewers.
I doubt you will, cause most of them aren't even talking about realism when they talk about realism. They actually mean naturalistic laws, consistency and believable and/or convincing stylization. And most artists who hate realism and all the above mentioned (usually younger ones, anime or comic fans and excusing every flaw with 'iT's mY sTyLe!') are just not capable to do it or to learn it for the sake of convincing stylization.
Your last message reminds me of a quote: "'See, if you paint wrong because that's the best you can do, you just a chump. But if you do it because you want to? Then you're an artist.'" ---- *Unwholly* by Neal Shusterman
Sounds like my teacher in art school. His first sentence to my art (I was 15 or smth) were: 'Well, you suck. Like, you know NOTHING about anything. Good thing you're here, lemme teach you how to draw a f*cking straight line.' Best art teacher I ever had, actually.
When the average person talks about realism, you're right, that they're not talking about the 1840's art trend that created the name. They're probably not even talking about Soviet era "socialist realism". Instead, they're probably talking about photo-realism, or art that looks 'realistic'.
In short, they don't know what realism is, because calling very detailed comics realistic is something that shortens my life expectancy when I hear it.
To be fair to realism, it's the most logical starting point to literally any other style. There are elements of realism everywhere, from abstract to cartoonist styles , and it really helps to be good at realism if you transition to another style. There's a reason they say "If you want to break the rules you have to know the rules".
The thing is that a lot of people look a those hyper realistic drawings and think those are masterful crafts, they're good, but only in the technical side, in the artistic side they're really empty and boring.
this is what I was noticing when drawing, I didn't expect someone to point it out good shading can save a crap drawing bad shading can ruin a good drawing it's either not shade at all, or shade properly
I have to hand it to you man, your videos cover the grey areas. You really have created a catalogue of inspired videos. I know I’m late to the party but you got yourself lifer fan. Great stuff
No, like it's really obvious. Like the thing about Jesus' feet, there's a high probability that a model was present, but doing the feet realistically would take up unnecessary space, and therefore interest, in the picture. (Basically it's not supposed to be a fetish painting of Jesus feet.)
Something I've noticed on Reddit is that seemingly on some kind of schedule a hyperrealistic pencil drawing gets onto the front page. I feel like I see one every week or something, and they're always the same. The look like a photo of a face, but gray. Of course skill is good, but this is just so artistically boring. Realism can be absolutely awesome though.
interesting fact: in some of the previous last supper paintings (ones created before leonardo's) judas was the only one sitting on the other side of the table (the one who ends up betraying jesus)
@@allier1867 Not exactly, no. Small =/= masculine. It meant _scholarly, intellectual,_ and having a small penis didn't suggest less sex or masculinity; just that the person was not ruled by their dick over their mind. Rather the other way around.
@@xeokym223 I believe that was a joke. I don’t really understand the point of saying. “You are wrong.. but I will not tell you in any summarised manner.” Like bruh..
I really like that you're doing mind-expanding, highly critical art critique over a large swath of artistic subjects. This is insanely rare, and to find someone speaking to younger crowds its also making me more hopeful. I found your channel through a music channel, I think it was some audio illusions stuff. Creating art is to mix what it means to you with what you want it to mean to others. You're definitely in touch with that too. I hope a lot of different artists see your channel. You've reignited a bit of me and I appreciate that. Keep it up, really excited to see where you go with this.
I once saw a digital painting of a photo of a seaplane above water. The artist made side-by-side comparison with the photo to show that the resemblance was next to perfect. Nothing was changed, the colors, object placements, all the details, everything was kept the same. The artist certainly had mad skills to be able to do this, but when I looked at the painting itself, I thought it was very unimpressive and uninspiring, and shouldn't be done as a way of art, although okay to just be a fun experiment. Surely that was unpopular opinion at the time, since then I've always been pondering if I was wrong. This video pretty much answered my question. btw I believe nobody knows how to pronounce WLOP's name, it's not in Chinese and likely isn't supposed to be pronounced. He's my favorite artist and the inspiration for me to pick up art at age 26.
I'll just use Solar Sand's pronunciation because is funny, "Wah lop". Also, yeah, as an experiment I guess it's fun for the artist to try to replicate a photo (not for me, I'm too lazy for that), but seeing it as art is just a little too much.
@@alainmarroquin5742 about the art thing I don't know what to say, but I think that you can still consider something good or bad, specially depending on it's quality, but that doesn't mean it can't be considered art, a famous example would be The Room, you know it's a bad movie, but that's what made it art, somehow.
@@alainmarroquin5742 I agree everyone has a different idea of art and just on this comment section you see people that don't like a style and they are saying it shouldn't be art for me even if the picture of a woman's face is old and unoriginal I look at the skill level people have to have to do it I know b I could never do something and make it look so much like a picture. I think that even if you don't like how something is done doesn't mean you should not consider it art because even a baby scribbling on paper is art to the baby and family too even if you think it's garbage.
Even if you don't have the necessary tools to complete a task, if you're determined enough you will eventually come up with a different way to complete said task.
I’ll be honest, as an amateur artist who want to be a professional but struggles with improving my art while worrying about “how do I make it more detailed so it looks more professional, should I make it more realistic or is cartoony ok, Am I not good enough” this video really helped my confidence and understanding of what realism is in painting and how to better my art. Thank u please keep up this good work.
In "The Things They Carried," writer Tim O'Brien made a distinction between "story truth" and "happening truth," and explained that a story can be realistic to how the narrator perceived it but not necessarily to how it happened objectively. Certain aspects of a story can be exaggerated or ignored in the way they would be in a real person's mind, just like in visual art.
You are the only other person ive seen that mentioned that book and im so happy Also! That book mentions that some things are exaggerated in order to catch people's attention and make them listen to the story.
I remember liking that book in high school, but now I barely remember anything about it. All I recall is someone getting “zapped while zipping”. I should probably re-read that
"Painting is not about replicating the world, it's about interpreting it, improving on it, showing something you see." - Carl Manfred, Detroit: Become Human
And I think on the other side of the coin, non-artists who disparage unrealistic art just don't get the artist or the artists goal in their work. Personally, I always admired realism (and romanticism) for the amazing skill of the production and attention to detail, knowing personally how hard it is to draw or paint something that looks real. Realistic work is impressive because it demonstrates control of the paintbrush, the pencil, the clay etc and I think it takes some maturity to look past that and find some deeper meaning. Most people don't know about the other features that artists take into consideration and controls, with just as much skill as the great painter or sculpter does. Things like composition and lighting, symbolic icons and cues etc are not even noticed. Lots of people just think 'it's pretty' or 'it's ugly'. It's the same with music and literature.
Fun fact I’m a botanist and fotos aren’t the pest pictures to identify a plants species is a drawing because a drawing is an ideal plant composed of many plants an average plant.
I genuinely needed this. Ive been hyper fixated on my own art and critiquing it in a way the is demoralizing or makes it out to seem unworthy of attention or care. I love making art and would love to do it for the rest of my life but kept telling myself its “not good enough” or “not realistic enough” when i myself don’t even look at and gawk over realistic looking art. Its always the artists that add their own unique twist on their pieces that draw me in and idealize them as id say my favorite artists. I shouldn’t be so scared to go outside the lines and make something that feels authentic and true to my view on nature and the world. Because art i create is supposed to be a fragmented look inside my view of the world and who i am. Might i just say thank you for this. You’ve said all the things i needed to hear.
I honestly don't understand why "nyan neko sugar girls" are shown as an example of a "wrong" stylization I mean, it's perfect for a parody, isn't it? The style is an integral part of the show 😭😭
Omfg the 3:43 is the soundtrack from planet Veldin in ratchet and clank! Literally my favorite game series ever, I casually listen to the soundtrack all the time lmao
“This is Leonardo Da Vinci’s last supper”
I don’t see him anywhere, are you sure he was there
Probably under the table somewhere
Arya Kodisono this is getting really old y’know.
He could’ve eaten later
He was at the opposite side of the table
@Mia Rasmussen ohh you mean he took the picture?
Perhaps We are the people on the other side of the table.
Eh, that could be the case
Bro thats deep
@Unfast Fairy guy
I actually re-wrote this comment like 4 times in attempts to not sound like I was trying to be deep/edgy.
I removed the second half of the sentence:
“hence why the chais/floor are out of shot, as the gallery used to present the painting would replace them.”
But not only is that a stretch, but it made me sound like a pretentious art teacher lol.
Seems like It didn’t work haha.
The Sensur oh ok
@@thesensur6214 I mean, that was literally the point. Religious art was and is designed to make people feel like a part of it, to invest themselves into these stories
_Reality can be whatever I want_
yeah💗
And welcome to the Matrix
God’s words
Rule 34 artists:
This was an obligatory comment that I was about to make but you beat me to it.
Basically: it doesn't need to look real, it just needs to look cool
Yeah art ain't science surprisingly, even if they're related
also art people : ANATOMY WRRRROOOOOOOOOOOONG
@@chiihasagi7430 *HAND TOO BEEG FEET TOO SMOL FINGER WEIRD SAND COURSE GET EVERYWHERE AAAAAAAA*
@@chiihasagi7430 Lol true. You go through an art school, and maybe you paint only abstract after it, but chances are you have drawn hundreds, even thousands of anatomy studies, thus you carry this inner demon which makes you scream things like "The hand is too big and the arm sorta grows from the chest in that drawing!"
@@chiihasagi7430, Dude, it's the basics of drawing. Perspective, anatomy, lighting. If you haven't practiced them, your art won't look cool, no matter how hard you try. Only someone who knows how to draw a normal person(for starters) can stylize characters.
The ghosts of these artists: “Fuck I missed that”
hahahaha
It's an eternal struggle
Everything this man says sounds like hes gonna intro into a skillshare sponsorship
Lmafo. So true
I thought I was the only one who thought this video was bullshit, I'm glad to see I wasn't. "They're all standing on the same side of the table in the last supper painting, WHY?!?! Well don't worry because i will tell you! It's because it's a painting, so they have to all be visible" Wow good job bro, you just taught me shit i learned in 2nd grade.
@@jevinday something obvious to you doesn't mean it's obvious to others.
@@Spellbook Oh ok, I guess I'm just so much smarter than everyone else (I'm not). I don't even paint or draw. But I do have enough critical thinking skills to take 5 seconds to think/analyze a painting. I guess you've never done art in your whole life so I'm gonna blow your mind right now: Unlike a picture, when you paint a portrait you have to paint EVERYTHING. Every line, every color, every shadow. So yeah, no painter in their fucking right mind is gonna paint a portrait of 12 deciples If half of them are gonna be painted with their backs turned, so of course they're all gonna be on the same side. Fucking art 101 right there.
@@jevinday I mean it was made just as an introduction of main theme, like don't be too dramatic over it
I pointed that last supper thing out to dad and he immediately said "they're probably just watching a footy game on the big screen" so yeah that's what's really happening there
This is canon
@@Milkra what does that mean?
What if they're watching us
K
@@bitterlemonboy just look up canon. Basically, when someone says something is canon, that means that that must have been what happened. Obviously, it's usually sarcastic, but in this case it means that in the joke, Da Vinci actually painted this image with the understanding that they are watching tv
Fun Fact: Cats was originally going to be a CGI animated film done by the art director of Kung Fu Panda. You can find some of the original drafts for designs online and it’s absolutely brilliant. It’s a shame it got scrapped.
the biggest missed movie opportunity since the popeye movie
GIVE US THE KUNG FU CUT
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE DIRECTORS OF CATS KNOW WE WANT THE KUNG FU CUT
Yup, but they scrapped this direction because only "'live-action" movies win oscars.
Oh that hurts.
@@Captain_MonsterFart watch the trailer and feel the pain
_"Art is not a reflection of reality. It is the reality of reflection."_
*~ Jean-Luc Godard*
i dont get the second sentence but ok
@@zi2736 nothing make sense
i honestly don't understand what that means lol
My understanding of this quote would be: Art shouldn't 100% resemble reality, that would be something photographing would do. Instead it is the reality of reflection, reality being what you end up making, reflection being the way you see things through your eyes.
I think that's the most pretentious thing I've ever read.
"This photo of Stalin isn't accurate either. He was originally surrounded by dissidents that he later purged."
@@Sohzy Personally, i live in 2020 Siberia and i'd rather keep living there, because Summer is extremely hot even here.
@Adam Zahavi
So are you just a regular anarchist?
@Adam Zahavi are you trying to say Poland is not slowly drifting into hell?
@Adam Zahavi what
what does this mean
i need an explanation
@Adam Zahavi We are dying, but are we sh*t tho?
At this point I don't even really need art school I can just watch solar sands
Wait... You need art school to improve?
Nah I just meant to learn important art stuff and interestings theories and hear different opinions in an informal setting from educated people that aim to teach you with genuine interest and hope that you find something interesting or informational. I'm a strong believer that you don't need an expensive education in order to be good at something, especially art forms,I was just tryna be funny
@@marsrover6275 for sure, art school is art school for a reason. It's lit but do I hate the workload they're giving us
Honestly, my art improved so much because of him
@@cherry414 in awe of this lad, solar sans
I’m so happy you defended Realism in the way you did, and pointed out that it’s not a “useless” style, and has so much potential for nuance. So many pretentious people that think you can only go full photographically realistic ness or over the top cartoony.
After all, the average audience doesn't know what realism is.
Basically DaVinci was one of the first artists to say "It's just my art style"
I didn’t know that!
Yea 😂
BRUH- EXACTLY! lol
Da vinki?
Coldfront Alpha Mona Lisa
Solar Sands
Merging existential crisis and art in style
That's our Lolar Lands!
Who's This " Lolar Sans"? I want to meet him! He sounds like a nice guy!
oh god these replies
merging existential crisis and art
Artistential crisis
Michalengelo: “ Oh s**t, I f***d up the hands
People in the future: he intentionally f**d up the hands.
He never would’ve said that because he designed the hands intentionally larger because The Statue of David was meant to be placed high up on a building ... not down on floor level inside a museum.
Smallstudio Design i watched that part of the video. I was sarcastic
if he made the hands too big couldn't he just... sculpt it more?
@@raresiordache3181
Humour is wasted on some people.
You have to introduce emojis as cues for them.
Someone needs to create a canned laughter emoji.
@@quack0i991
Maybe like he did with the genitals?
😂😂😂
I almost expected him to say "And as always, thanks for watching."
I love that your channel has kinda turned into an "analysis" of different trends, and sub-genres of art. Its pretty crazy to think that you came from yelling at people on Devientart haha.
Yeah I wasn't expecting to see that when I went through his older uploads, hehe
Priceless.
oh how they grow
Character development👌
Yes! Also all the art channels that would kinda analyze art trends are just regular drama channels now. It’s mostly challenges so I don’t really watch art related channel. He’s one of the last art commentary channels
I just found a gem of a channel holy...
Meh. It’s all subjective BAHAHAHAHAHA.... ugh. To me the dude is just spewing out the day of school he showed up to. And yeah, I just can’t hop on the band wagon. He’s too, I guess firm in what is BOT concrete fact. Which cool, but a ton of contradictions in his videos if ya binge. He does have many good aspects to his channel. I think I’m similar enough to him that I find him off putting. I wish I wasn’t that way. Have a good one!
Diet Shazta I love your name homie.
@@Tattootin who don't contradict themself in their life, you?
It seem I always run into you @bandstand
Samee
I wish art history was this interesting in school.
I wish school was this interesting in the first place
@@jamesagwe2981 agreed. They make everything as boring as possible in that hellhole
i wish my art teacher was an actual art teacher, not only she teach nothing but "draw this from this book" she also never come to class like every week. Though, she teach music pretty good.
It is depending on the School tbh
@@marsship921 Eehh... Not Exaclty
The only thing that still gets me are people who use the "it's my style" excuse when their work is called into question. They break the rules without understanding the rules, which makes their breakage of them meaningless and hollow. I just can't get over the mentality those people have because it reminds me of all those people in my art classes who were only there for the "easy A" and got upset when they didn't get one.
Underrated comment
Precisely. You don’t know how many times I’ve been on an art tutorial and there are people in the comments that say “Um, there’s more than one way to draw something! Don’t say what’s wrong and what’s right!” I wonder why they even go on the tutorial if they don’t want to hear other people describing their vision and process.
So true! Those "but it's my style!" people often don't realize that artists with more experience will immediately know it's an excuse for not understanding the fundamentals, anatomy, etc. When the "it's my style" phrase is true, the artist doesn't even need to state it. We all understand by looking at the art that the artist made the conscious decision to simplify/exaggerate/enhance something using their vast artistic knowledge.
Yep
right??? Some people just like to copy random stylized elements without even knowing what they’re stylizing or if they should even use it. a good artist would be able to explain their design choices, a bad artist doesn’t know why they do what they do and just uses a lame excuse. Also the fact that people let small techniques define their style. Timmy, the random, solid black shadow under your character’s neck doesn’t make it “your style.” In fact, you just copied the technique from someone on social media. It’s a combination of techniques and how you interpret things that makes your art yours.
Art that is hyper realistic is more *impressive* than it is *expressive*
underrated comment
Also theres a difference between realism and hyper realism.
Theres plenty of room for expression in realistic art by the way you use colors, brush strokes etc.
Hyper realism at best is the as good as the picture it is copying. You cannot make it better or more expressive.
going beyond: the Bible is fanart. it's a fanfic if you think about it
Why settle for something that's only impressive when you can have something impressive YET expressive. The argument for hyperrealism in traditional medium is DEAD a long long time ago when photography surfaced.
@@dianzonjairus2141
That’s why I draw anime. It balances more realistic proportions while also being stylized enough for me to express things
In Party in the USA, as Miley is leaving LAX, she says “Look to my right and I see the Hollywood sign”
when in fact leaving LAX you would see the Hollywood sign out of the left car window
oOoOoOoOoOoOo what a biiiiiiitch
Maybe she was in a limo and sitting in a backwards-facing seat instead of forwards, so it would be on her right instead of her left.
@@razebeats308 She was in a taxi cab! >:(
@@readmore5888 Maybe the taxi was driving on the wrong side of the road
Never heard of two way streets? There’s only one lonely road leading to LAX?
"in another, more famous example of anatomical distortion, one may notice that Michelangelos statue of David..."
oooooh hes gonna talk about the tiny pp
"... has a head and hands-" Oh
I was thinking the same thing.
I mean the tiny penis would be a visual thing as well due to the larger head and hands.
Hey guys wanna know the real reason the statue has a tiny pp? During the time of Michealangelo big pp was considered vulgar and brutish. Hence, smol pp. True story.
@@IudiciumInfernalumdamn, I should had born there
@Cyberdemon Mike actually, not EVERYONE, some people (the majority) have the "grower" which is the one that you say, and some people have the "shower" and this one, don't change his size
One of the things I love about Breath of the Wild is that it seems to use a base of hyper-realism but then make it highly fantastical and pastel-styled. It looks really beautiful, and that’s why it’s my favorite version of Hyrule.
Solar: They definitely meant to make the feet smaller to make the piece more appealing to look at.
The artist back then: crap i made the feet small. eh whatever
Exactly my thoughts lol
Yeah I definitely got the sense that if it was a modern art critique he would have said the feet were done wrong. XD
Honestly the legs look really small to me in general but idk
We will never know.
in the past, artists didn't know how to paint perspective correctly, they discovered it slowly trough the ages
Ah, pictures of food, like burgers. I was actually pleasantly weirded out in South Korea when the food I was served looked exactly like the picture, at least until I started eating. Pretty impressive presentation...
Gosh
reality is gone. everything is cake.
Now reality can be whatever I want
I stand by that freddie
@@matket5192 I Guess you can say "Nothing really matters"
@@weather9405 nooo not rlly... I just stand by the fact that everything is cake!
Thanks for the info Freddie Mercury
Expanding on the whole food styling thing- we can’t smell through screens and half of the time we find something appetising because of its smell SO products do kinda NEED to be idealised to make up for the lack of scent
S C E N T
@@m.r.9127 Did I stutter?
No they don't. "Idealising" the pictures portrays the product as something it isn't. It's a con. The company doesn't NEED to con its customers.
@@rosiefay7283you’re right, in a fair and just world companies wouldn’t have to lie and exaggerate to target consumers
But markets are so competitive that you either sink or float so it’s more of a systematic issue with consumerism than individual companies
then again there are of course times where it goes too far 😅
Can someone explain to me, how we went from
"Haha inflation and fetishes drawn in MSpaint"
to
"Hm, yes, indeed... Sometimes "unrealistically" drawn pieces of modern artwork portray the ideas conveyed in reality subtly, yet more effectively than their "more realistic" counterparts."
The capacity to learn and grow, through genuine interest and understanding
Character development
I feel like he always wanted to talk about this kind of stuff, but got more popular making fun of bad art which more people wanted at the time.
Top ten anime betrayals
I think something about sonic vore fanart just really made him question life, and made him much more philosophical
Just remember: paintings of things from the bible is fan art
Paradise Lost sounds like a well-written fanfiction in poem form.
@@checkscache2701 No, no. He's got a point.
@@checkscache2701 I mean he's not WRONG. Religion is really just really big fandoms that take themselves really seriously
Religion in like a franchise
Can’t argue there...
6:34 is genuinely the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. Imagine being utterly fascinated and philosophizing over a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
I want to be a food stylist, it looks like fun! And 💰
@@lapislazarus8899 if I was a food stylist i’d probably just eat the food
wow you clearly don't understaand the infinite intricacies and symbolic meanings contained in a peanut butter sandwich. It's a common comfort food for children evoking a strong sense of I'm just kidding it's only a sandwich.
@@tortis6342 to be fair, you have to have a high iq in order to appreciate a peanut butter jelly sandwich
His passion for his work is adorable as hell
"People can guide you, or misguide you, but ultimately you decide what is right" true on so many levels, not just art.
I hate the feet thing. I tried to paint someone with their feet on the table multiple time, and their feet always look either too small or too fetishized. There is really no in-between
This is the first time on my whole live I’ve heard the word “fetishized” be used
@@shyhunterg Wow what
@@papasscooperiaworker3649, I live on Mexico so that might be part of why
Feet ARE difficult to draw
How do feet look fetishised? Isnt that in the eye of the beholder?
I want to see hyper-realistic ASCII art.
Bob squared
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The other day I saw a realistic (but obviously limitedly so) portrait of the dwarf fortress developers, made entirely with ASCII within dwarf fortress
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I wanna add something about the Last Supper: the painting isn't actually in Santa Maria delle Grazie Church but in the convent attached to it. Leonardo was commissioned to paint one of the refectory's wall and he decided to paint the Last Supper.Jesus and all the apostles are sitting all on one side of the table not only because it looks way better like that, but also so they could face the monks while they were eating, to create a sort of inclusion in the scene. Andddd it's really smart.
it's like you're having the last supper with Jesus
What if I told you that it was painted flat because it represents the Celestial throne of God, the Zodiac. Starting on the left with Aries, Taurus, Cancer, Gemini, Leo. Mary at Jesus' right is not Mary but Virgo, and has an Adams Apple, which is why it is being pointed at by Leo. Mirrored in the Sphinx, head of Virgo on body of a Lion, Leo.
The Zodiac, or Mazzaroth, is the Throne of God in the Heavens. The 24 Elders, While the Kingdom of God is within you. Luke 17:21 2 sets of 12 Cranial Nerves.
@@in-powered3392 no it isn't
@@in-powered3392 take meds
Not just that but a painting of his Crucifixion was on the other side of the wall, so not only were they placed to face the monks/nuns, but Jesus is also looking to his future
Something I wish you touched upon is that the modern obsession with realism extends beyond even just visual art but into other mediums as well. I can't tell you how much I wince every time I hear a film being criticized for having 'unrealistic dialogue' or an 'unrealistic plot', particularly if the plot incorporates elements of magical realism. One of my favorite recent films is 'The Killing of a Sacred Deer' yet time and time again people seem to complain about how 'bad' the acting is, how stiff and monotonous everyone speaks. People seem unable to grasp this sort of thing as a deliberate artistic choice that adds an extra dimension to the piece. I'd love to see more creatives out there like Yorgos Lanthimos or Charlie Kaufman, yet if box office numbers are to audiences seem utterly uninterested in anything that experiments beyond conventional depictions of human interaction.
Video games seem to be the only medium where subversion of realism is commonplace, mostly out of necessity for gameplay reasons, historical technological limitations, and to avoid tedium, yet as graphics increase in fidelity, there seems to be this large push, particularly from AAA western developers towards this perceived ultimate goal of hyper-realism in both graphics and gameplay (see: Red Dead Redemption 2), and it is likely the reason why most games worth even playing these days are small projects coming out of indie studios.
To be honest the concept 'magical realism' itself only exists because of this. Because in the Englishspeaking world it is seen as distinct and noteworthy instead of just normal freedom of fiction. They also take this and emphasise it as distinct in their own works, which tends to the miss the mark as a result, a codified gimmick.
But yeah. I think the attachment to supposed realism or accuracy, especially from laymen criticising something, is because they don't have anything else to say or aren't able to say anything else. It's the same with people focusing on worldbuilding, plot, and characters (that is, their shallow personal like or dislike, and nothing about the relation to themes and aesthetics and other factors together in a piece of media). Emphasis on these three things, especially when judgement of 'good' amounts to what they feel is realistic (which may not actually be so realistic but nonetheless tries to assume the authority of what is real/true/accurate), is because they don't understand the craft, they don't understand what makes a good story or experience. It is a kind of cultural decay and disconnect wrought by science literalism and abusing low-hanging fruit for content and gotchas. It's annoying because it's talking about anything but the actual work.
Not to mention the artistic choice within a realistic game like Red Dead Redemption 2, this game doesn't have the same realism as Naughty Dog games, or The Witcher 3 and recently Resident Evil 4 Remake, are distinct and unique visual choices each with a stylized realism whether it's good or not, but that is reduced to 4K and now look how the new generation is more realistic GTA 6 will be even more realistic and in the end, whatever the art direction that the company brought to this world.
Can we just talk about how realistic yet unrealistic anime is. Like sometimes it looks just like the real world, but then again the faces & stuff dont.
Anime is just a cheap knockoff of reality
Golden GT you could also argue the opposite
Something I've noticed a bit in anime art styles is highly detailed eyes and nearly non-existent noses
@Fleur Garden "very realistic"
*Literally everyone when first joining the jojo fandom is in awe over the size of this lad named Jonathan Joestar"
@@tggorudon2551 He's probably talking about part 7 and 8
I love how when the part he says "YOU decide what is right" instantly turns into a black screen and I just see thereflection of idiot me smiling
Deep.
Gosh
I just called my brother an idiot. What a coincidence
Jeff Watts has a great quote on this: "drawing is partly what you know, partly what you see and partly what you wish you saw"
Man, whenever I watch this channel, it always seems to inspire me to paint and test my limits as an artist. Create. Experiment. Fail. Try again.
It's hard to do that sometimes, but stuff like this reminds me it's always good to try to test yourself, experiment, and have fun doing it with art, and that it isn't so bad if you can't figure it out yet, you'll get it eventually.
As a wise man once said: "Painting is not about replicating the world, it's about interpreting and improving on it. Showing something you see"
Is that a Detroit become human quote?
hey, maybe i can actually enjoy art. my school teacher only makes us do object drawings.
Carol only spoke facts
Carl was one of my fav characters from that game lol
@@lucticide the world has plenty of art to enjoy, please do not be limited by school or a teacher.
Around 17:54 as he says "you" the screen cuts to black and creates a reflection. Idk if this was intentional or not but I thought it was interesting.
Idk I think he just made the screen black so you'd focus on what he was saying rather than the images he is showing.
@@pugmommy9865 Yeah that's definitely possible too
It is bit like Sopranos ending
I think it was meant be like cool outro, break for your eyes and how Pug Mommy said - space for your focus on thoughts. But very good point!
Deep
Damn solar 😔🔫
Potato goes brrrrrrrrrrr
I dislike the whole "fixing" trend in general
Doing your take and calling it "fixing" is pretty delusional
one time i saw someone (it might’ve been an article) call disney sexist for giving their animated princesses big eyes, while the guys typically had eyes with realistic proportions. like bro it’s just an art style, not “setting unrealistic beauty standards/making it seem like women are only valuable for their looks” or some reach like that. i don’t know why some people can’t just appreciate cartoon styles without feeling the need to make it realistic in order to consider it “good”
@@SOCKS_RABBIT its fiction, its not supposed to be realistic. this is like when people got mad at disney for giving ariel a small waist. like, shes a literal mermaid. of course it isnt an accurate depiction of reality
@@luxinvictus9018
Dafuq would you type in 'realistic', keep searching out these sites and keep watching them, then?
Did you expect they'd maybe not do realistic drawings?
🤔😜😂😂😂
Or just drawing them with darker skin colour/overweight (I am not against it or hate that people) it's just really annoys me
I’m glad I clicked on this video.I haven’t paid much attention to art in a long time, but the paintings shown at the beginning are spectacular.
These artists definitely have a gift.
To be able to conceive these visuals, and then transfer these images to
canvas is mind blowing.
I really love your shift from browsing DeviantArt to discussion of art things and history. I still love to see DeviantArt, but this seems more like your choice and it's very fun
Edit: Realism is so overrated by many people, especially in elite art circles. Realism can be grueling, and take forever. I think in some ways, stylization can take just as much if not more effort than making art look just like real life, because you have to find out how to do it right. I prefer stylization over realism just because of how much people think realism is the only route.
i feel like i have a bit of a stylized-realism style in my art. it's hard to say for me since it's my style and i don't have too much knowledge of what certain aspects of art looks like, but i know i do mostly try to go for realism in my pieces, but most of the time i just end up putting a bit of a stylistic look in it. i think it sounds unique, although im sure other people have done this.
I have a way of drawing where I get references for what i wanna draw, i do a bunch of drawings of it as anatomically correct as i can, and then i stylize it. Its much more fun than feeling like you need to draw a hyper realistic painting of your subject before you can stylise
As an owner of a framed print of JMW Turner's "The Fighting Temeraire". I regret nothing.
@@ninjacats1647 you madlad
Some of the principles regarding stylization out there are great. There was an excellent theory on color theory for art that another youtuber did. I personally adhere to asymmetrical theory when taking extracting photos (extracted from videos) of sunsets amidst the landscape. Asymmetrical body language is also often considered very attractive for posing people for photographs.
One artist whom I greatly admire is Claude Lorraine, he is a master of putting the most dramatic part of a landscape scene in the central focus, and his use of color is quite a feast for the eyes.
I just love how SolarSands started as a sarcastic critic of what's on deviant art and weird fetishes and moved to making deep analytical videos about various topics related to art. All with keeping the same level of entertainment as looking at some wierd kid's oc but gaining some information instead. Wow. This channel honestly is underrated now and am waiting for it to grow even more.
What the heck my brain is still tripping out about how detailed it looks at first glance, but how simplistic it is when you focus in on it...
"It"
@@iDDailly ah, thanks for catching that.
@@davidreinhard6037 what are you referring to by "it"? there are so many works of art in this video im not sure what youre referring to ; - ;
I’m assuming you’re talking about this 9:37
@@davidreinhard6037 what is it 😩
I noticed that in a lot of experienced artists, they use blocks of colors instead sketching. I think it's a really useful method and makes things easier.
This is the most “Um actually...” video ive ever seen.
More like 🤓☝️"um acwchually"🤓☝️
a good one
@Xander Crews how dare you call the Great Labowski a nerd, you nerd
Word this one is big they need to use this
or the tEcHniCalLY girl-
"This is Leonardo Da Vinci's 'Last supper'" My boy been eating a whole painting back in the day 😂😂😂
Aha i get it
@@ziscreet we dont
YoungBlaze YOU dont
william dretich nah it’s we
Ahaha
*I think art is about exploration.*
Whether the discoveries made are good or bad I think it’s important to allow them to happen. Saying something should be only realistic or even only stylistic is something that stifles artistic exploration. You can call art bad or good, but to say that it shouldn’t exist at all is to put boundaries on art when art best grows through limitless possibilities for experimentation.
Absolutely agree
Ah yes, the scientific process
I agree
Oh my god. I was boppin to the music and I was wondering why it was so good. And then it struck me it's the soundtrack for Novalis in the original ratchet and clank. I love you so much. Thank you.
In the art school I got to, our teachers ask students: "Why don't you just take a picture of your subject if all you want to achieve is something as close to reality as possible?" As first year students this confused us at first, because like you said, many people think that more realism = better. But by not sticking to photo realism, you can add so much more to your work.
Haha good call
my art teacher said that as well!!!
When you study art, you realize that realism is actually the first step
That's what modern video game creators don't get, heh.
Sorry, had to add it here.
@@turbotrup96 the problem with realistic looking games is that they age very quickly, like compare Heavy Rain with Detroit, while stylized games are able to look good even today, for example compare Mario Galaxy and Mario Odyssey, even if Galaxy doesn't look as advanced as Odyssey, it still looks beautiful.
Every time he says "Jesus" it sounds like he's exclaiming.
Maybe it’s just because you’ve mostly heard it in that context
0:13 for a split second it felt like he was gonna go on a rant)
@@aliveslice *PRICELESS?!*
I found Solar Sand's Only Fans: ruclips.net/video/QNulS324Fww/видео.html
@@aryakodisono9026 hmm.. no. But the idea itself is enticing.
I never really thought about these, jeez.
I should learn more about art
New thing i do this summer
Underrated
you're at the right channel then
Wait I was rewatvhing this vid and WHAT IS YOUR PROFILE PIC!?
@@sourmilk5951 who? my pfp is my cat lol
One of my favourite distortions is Michelangelo's Pieta, where Mary's figure is depicted so much larger than an actual woman, to give the sense of her motherhood and guardian quality, I just love how that statue turned out, it's genius
And the folds of her dress gave enough of a base so the statue doesn’t tip over
15:27 really put into words why I'm not excited to see someone's hyper-realistic portrait despite the obvious talent and skill. Another great video and love seeing your uploads in my subscription box!
That’s why I’ll only ever reach a realistic level of drawing purely for learning purposes; realism in the form that we see it in media like Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat/TikTok etc. today is almost always the same thing. No offense to those artists because it’s not easy to emulate real life, and I can appreciate a talented artist, but why would I want to see that when I see it anyways every day? I find it much more fun to push the boundaries of reality and create psychedelic pictures that stimulate the mind and catch your eye while making you really think about what you’re seeing; only instead of painting it, I’d like to make it move.
In Lamentation Of The Christ I personally find the small feet distracting. I don't think it would have covered up too much if they were normal sized.
Exactly my first thoughts when the painting was shown.
Yeah, as a practicing artist I found it pretty awkward and daunting; maybe a casual onlooker wouldn’t find too much wrong with it but I feel like it wouldn’t have been much of a sacrifice to make it more proportionally accurate..
It makes him look like a midget
Now that I've become aware of it I can't unsee it
He looked like a midget with a water head. Or at least an oversized head. And a blown up rib cage.
Been there since one of his First Deviant Art rants. I've seen all his phases: his obsessive Zootipia Phase, his first Pixel Arts, the sweatshirt parody songs and even the streams where he read the bee movie script with his little brother. It's crazy to see how grown up he's become haha. Keep up the great work Solar Sands
Thought you were talking about da Vinci til I read that last bit
I love that he mentioned Spider verse! I absolutely adored the style choice in that movie and wish more shows or movies were like that. It was just enough realistic to be recognizable while also keeping the aspect of a more stylized comic look! Like adding the little comic words like "zap!" Next to a character. It's so unique in its own beautiful way 😌
I get the point of the video but I couldn’t stand the movie because of its visual style.
Sometimes aesthetics are more important that accuracy.
Yes. My favorite moment in history is when Jesus ate McDonald's.
I know you're joking, but for anyone who doesn't understand the thumbnail, it was a visual demonstration of the Last Supper's anachronistic qualities, altering it in a similarly anachronistic way that immediately stands out to modern viewers.
Berbger
from Mdoncdals.
He was lovin' it
@@futurestoryteller that's why i was escaping the History Classes when i was young.
cuz i realized they're actually wrong
*Logan*
They had the E.I.E.I.O meal deal.
i honestly have yet to hear something like this go around the art comunity, this made me genuenly happy to hear.
*Genonenly
@@Barbiemagicofpegasusfan grasy ass amigo
@@ammagon4519 arigato amigo
I doubt you will, cause most of them aren't even talking about realism when they talk about realism. They actually mean naturalistic laws, consistency and believable and/or convincing stylization. And most artists who hate realism and all the above mentioned (usually younger ones, anime or comic fans and excusing every flaw with 'iT's mY sTyLe!') are just not capable to do it or to learn it for the sake of convincing stylization.
check out ethan becker
its crazy how you made this a lesson at the end about individual thought and preseption. very good video.
yeah, reality isn't always right. Sometimes its left.
i love this comment because it's stupid
Hell, it might even go straight once in a while
Woke and redpilled
Are you proud of yourself?
Pokey Oat reality’s gay and it always has been
I haven’t payed my taxes since 2003
I haven’t payed my taxes
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I payed my taxes since 2003
Your last message reminds me of a quote:
"'See, if you paint wrong because that's the best you can do, you just a chump. But if you do it because you want to? Then you're an artist.'"
---- *Unwholly* by Neal Shusterman
Sounds like my teacher in art school. His first sentence to my art (I was 15 or smth) were: 'Well, you suck. Like, you know NOTHING about anything. Good thing you're here, lemme teach you how to draw a f*cking straight line.'
Best art teacher I ever had, actually.
When the average person talks about realism, you're right, that they're not talking about the 1840's art trend that created the name. They're probably not even talking about Soviet era "socialist realism". Instead, they're probably talking about photo-realism, or art that looks 'realistic'.
Or, as spoken, 1762881938191st portrait of random Instagram model
In short, they don't know what realism is, because calling very detailed comics realistic is something that shortens my life expectancy when I hear it.
To be fair to realism, it's the most logical starting point to literally any other style. There are elements of realism everywhere, from abstract to cartoonist styles , and it really helps to be good at realism if you transition to another style. There's a reason they say "If you want to break the rules you have to know the rules".
The thing is that a lot of people look a those hyper realistic drawings and think those are masterful crafts, they're good, but only in the technical side, in the artistic side they're really empty and boring.
@@crystalalumina if something Is good to look at It cannot be considered "empty and boring"
@@lucatriunfo8023 I said good, but only on the TECHNICAL side, which means that the technique is well made, but that's it, nothing special.
I feel like there a difference between learning\having to know the fundamentals and realistic art (an art style)
I agree
this is what I was noticing when drawing, I didn't expect someone to point it out
good shading can save a crap drawing
bad shading can ruin a good drawing
it's either not shade at all, or shade properly
This
personally i find it doesn't matter if the shading is absolutely picture perfect. if the shaping is bad, the art is bad.
I, too, remember the time in the New Testament where Jesus and the Disciples ordered the Mr. Beast Burger
When god predicted the end of the world, it was just a metaphor for Bee Movie 2
"And Jesus saith unto His disciples, 'Go ye into the city and find a baker, and from him ye shalt buy twelve Whoppers.'"
@@cornycontent1915 -Mathew 4:20
I have to hand it to you man, your videos cover the grey areas. You really have created a catalogue of inspired videos. I know I’m late to the party but you got yourself lifer fan. Great stuff
When you're such a genius that even when you make a mistake people are like "ya, he meant to do that" I love it
No, like it's really obvious. Like the thing about Jesus' feet, there's a high probability that a model was present, but doing the feet realistically would take up unnecessary space, and therefore interest, in the picture.
(Basically it's not supposed to be a fetish painting of Jesus feet.)
There is absolutely no way you would’ve ever convinced me I would willingly listen to art essays in my free time, but goddamn... such good videos man
Something I've noticed on Reddit is that seemingly on some kind of schedule a hyperrealistic pencil drawing gets onto the front page. I feel like I see one every week or something, and they're always the same. The look like a photo of a face, but gray. Of course skill is good, but this is just so artistically boring.
Realism can be absolutely awesome though.
3:39 I’ve seen a lot or beksinskis paintings but never his photos before. He’s got some hella good surrealist nightmare fuel work
interesting fact: in some of the previous last supper paintings (ones created before leonardo's) judas was the only one sitting on the other side of the table (the one who ends up betraying jesus)
2:30
I honestly expected you to complain about his dong
Lmao
Probably based on the sculptor's own proportions.
😂😂😂
@@billyandrew not quite. in those times a smaller penis meant the man was more... manly, masculine. thats how they interpret it
@@allier1867 Not exactly, no. Small =/= masculine. It meant _scholarly, intellectual,_ and having a small penis didn't suggest less sex or masculinity; just that the person was not ruled by their dick over their mind. Rather the other way around.
@@xeokym223 I believe that was a joke. I don’t really understand the point of saying. “You are wrong.. but I will not tell you in any summarised manner.” Like bruh..
This man talked about his opinion on the internet, and has less than 100 dislikes? I think that’s the TRUE distorted reality
i think the use of complicated words hahahhaha the use of complicated words made it look like its too complicated and you don't focus on it
You jinxed it, its 457 now lol
I really like that you're doing mind-expanding, highly critical art critique over a large swath of artistic subjects. This is insanely rare, and to find someone speaking to younger crowds its also making me more hopeful. I found your channel through a music channel, I think it was some audio illusions stuff.
Creating art is to mix what it means to you with what you want it to mean to others. You're definitely in touch with that too.
I hope a lot of different artists see your channel. You've reignited a bit of me and I appreciate that. Keep it up, really excited to see where you go with this.
I once saw a digital painting of a photo of a seaplane above water. The artist made side-by-side comparison with the photo to show that the resemblance was next to perfect. Nothing was changed, the colors, object placements, all the details, everything was kept the same.
The artist certainly had mad skills to be able to do this, but when I looked at the painting itself, I thought it was very unimpressive and uninspiring, and shouldn't be done as a way of art, although okay to just be a fun experiment. Surely that was unpopular opinion at the time, since then I've always been pondering if I was wrong. This video pretty much answered my question.
btw I believe nobody knows how to pronounce WLOP's name, it's not in Chinese and likely isn't supposed to be pronounced. He's my favorite artist and the inspiration for me to pick up art at age 26.
You should watch "The Art Assignment" they have a "Case for Photorealism" video.
I'll just use Solar Sand's pronunciation because is funny, "Wah lop".
Also, yeah, as an experiment I guess it's fun for the artist to try to replicate a photo (not for me, I'm too lazy for that), but seeing it as art is just a little too much.
No one should decide what should be considered art and what not, and decide what is good or bad is even worse
@@alainmarroquin5742 about the art thing I don't know what to say, but I think that you can still consider something good or bad, specially depending on it's quality, but that doesn't mean it can't be considered art, a famous example would be The Room, you know it's a bad movie, but that's what made it art, somehow.
@@alainmarroquin5742 I agree everyone has a different idea of art and just on this comment section you see people that don't like a style and they are saying it shouldn't be art for me even if the picture of a woman's face is old and unoriginal I look at the skill level people have to have to do it I know b I could never do something and make it look so much like a picture. I think that even if you don't like how something is done doesn't mean you should not consider it art because even a baby scribbling on paper is art to the baby and family too even if you think it's garbage.
I'm really loving this new style of content, it's somewhat educational and really fascinating. Keep it up!
"Limitation breeds creativity."
Please explain
Even if you don't have the necessary tools to complete a task, if you're determined enough you will eventually come up with a different way to complete said task.
I’ll be honest, as an amateur artist who want to be a professional but struggles with improving my art while worrying about “how do I make it more detailed so it looks more professional, should I make it more realistic or is cartoony ok, Am I not good enough” this video really helped my confidence and understanding of what realism is in painting and how to better my art. Thank u please keep up this good work.
The thing is for you to learn the fundamentals and train them by putting them into practice,learn to apply what you like until you get very good.
In "The Things They Carried," writer Tim O'Brien made a distinction between "story truth" and "happening truth," and explained that a story can be realistic to how the narrator perceived it but not necessarily to how it happened objectively. Certain aspects of a story can be exaggerated or ignored in the way they would be in a real person's mind, just like in visual art.
You are the only other person ive seen that mentioned that book and im so happy
Also! That book mentions that some things are exaggerated in order to catch people's attention and make them listen to the story.
Love that book. I'm lucky enough to have a really cool HS English teacher and we studied O'brien in class. Great blend of fiction and memoir.
I remember liking that book in high school, but now I barely remember anything about it. All I recall is someone getting “zapped while zipping”. I should probably re-read that
Funny DeviantArt man to video making legend.
Im not interested in art at all but you still kept my attention. Good job dude, I love these analytical videos youre putting out lately.
Yeah, I came for the deviantart cringe and stayed for the philosophy. These are a late-night in-bed-thinking-until-I-fall-asleep mood.
Love how he’s talking about love death and robots and casiopea is just VIBING HARD in the background
"Painting is not about replicating the world, it's about interpreting it, improving on it, showing something you see."
- Carl Manfred, Detroit: Become Human
I think why most and also I don’t really like hyper realism is that there are less choices to be make therefore less of the artist we can see.
Sounds like you are talking about photorealism though?
Olga Hein oh true yeah I think that’s what I mean
And I think on the other side of the coin, non-artists who disparage unrealistic art just don't get the artist or the artists goal in their work.
Personally, I always admired realism (and romanticism) for the amazing skill of the production and attention to detail, knowing personally how hard it is to draw or paint something that looks real. Realistic work is impressive because it demonstrates control of the paintbrush, the pencil, the clay etc and I think it takes some maturity to look past that and find some deeper meaning.
Most people don't know about the other features that artists take into consideration and controls, with just as much skill as the great painter or sculpter does. Things like composition and lighting, symbolic icons and cues etc are not even noticed. Lots of people just think 'it's pretty' or 'it's ugly'. It's the same with music and literature.
Fun fact I’m a botanist and fotos aren’t the pest pictures to identify a plants species is a drawing because a drawing is an ideal plant composed of many plants an average plant.
6:51 - Not sure if peanut butter & jelly sandwich, or mustard & ketchup sandwich.
Reality is often disappointing...
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shut up
Haha👏 funny😝 endgame😤 reference💅
shut up it's true. reality is often disappointing indeed and a lot of people can say this.
Ew the edge
"I get the inspiration for my paintings from the youtuber Solar Sands." - Leonardo da Vinci
I'm not so sure this comment is real you guys.
*reality isn't always right*
@@futurestoryteller It's I fact checked it ... I'm no joke, He literally said it
*Ok so where's the sarcastic humor*
no funys today comeback next week
@@mokjoy *cries*
OC bad
@@retrovibe5583 :0
Why shoud there be sarcastic humor?
I genuinely needed this. Ive been hyper fixated on my own art and critiquing it in a way the is demoralizing or makes it out to seem unworthy of attention or care. I love making art and would love to do it for the rest of my life but kept telling myself its “not good enough” or “not realistic enough” when i myself don’t even look at and gawk over realistic looking art. Its always the artists that add their own unique twist on their pieces that draw me in and idealize them as id say my favorite artists. I shouldn’t be so scared to go outside the lines and make something that feels authentic and true to my view on nature and the world. Because art i create is supposed to be a fragmented look inside my view of the world and who i am. Might i just say thank you for this. You’ve said all the things i needed to hear.
0:00 “this is Leonardo daVincis last supper” shit all this time I thought it was Jesus😐
Actually its jesus Drawn by vinci
@@destiny_02 Herlock Sholmes huh 😐
@@valentina8698 its a painting of jesus by leonardo
Guys are u fucking kidding me this was a JOKE
It's a painting of Jesus Da Vinci just painted it duh🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦😐😐😐😐🙄🙄😂🙄🙄🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷
Never liked the little feet jesus painting
Artist had a thing about little feet and genitals.
😂😂😂
Little feet WIDE CHEST
No one even notices the feet thing until it's pointed out to them.
They need a foot stylist... ☝🏻
the proportions are quite accurate if you consider it is a telephoto shot
I honestly don't understand why "nyan neko sugar girls" are shown as an example of a "wrong" stylization
I mean, it's perfect for a parody, isn't it? The style is an integral part of the show 😭😭
Omfg the 3:43 is the soundtrack from planet Veldin in ratchet and clank! Literally my favorite game series ever, I casually listen to the soundtrack all the time lmao