USA Astrology Discussion with Ronnie Pontiac about the Saturn Neptune Conjunction

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
  • Today I am interviewing astrologer, musician, author and documentary maker Ronnie Pontiac ‪‪@theronniepontiac‬ in a continuation of our discussion about the final phase of the USA's 2024 astrology this time with a focus on Saturn and Neptune's conjunction.
    In this video Ronnie discusses the collective reckoning we are experiencing as a nation, the importance of perspective in our own lives with this conjunction, how meditation can help us through these turbulent times and what we can expect as a country in the years to come.
    You can find the USA Pluto chart here: www.astro.com/astro-databank/...
    You can read Ronnie's Medium post about the beginning of the USA Pluto return here: / astrology-of-the-u-s-pluto-return-2017-2024
    You can learn about Ronnie's band here: /lucidnation
    Ronnie's book: amzn.to/3Lm3dqH
    And his upcoming classes: www.theosophical.org/program/...
    IG @theronniepontiac
    If you are interested in booking a reading with me or getting my newsletter you can go to www.LawlessAstrology.com
    There is a Reason and a Season for it All. Trust the Cosmos.

Комментарии • 126

  • @greenspiritarts
    @greenspiritarts 15 дней назад +38

    I have been a student of Astrology for nearly 50 years. In the past 25 years I’ve watched how the star maps give us solid and direct information about the territory ahead both personally and collectively. I’ve listened to so many different podcasts and videos over those years trying to find practitioners who look directly at history coupled with astrology to manage our personal and collective growth in our little life raft tossed upon the waves and deep pools of the river of space time…..and until finding you two, especially Ronnie, the information and delivery has been disappointing….but you both have such clarity, groundedness and appreciation for the culture and politics of our times AND of history, even ancient history (thank you Ronnie for that!) that I feel like I’ve just had the BEST meal with the BEST wine and the BEST of friends listening to your discussions. THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU!!!!!! ❤❤❤

    • @Kathryn721
      @Kathryn721 15 дней назад

      Well said!

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  15 дней назад

      I will definitely pass the compliments along to Ronnie!

    • @marilynnyoung7026
      @marilynnyoung7026 14 дней назад +1

      @@lawlessastrologythis was such an interesting podcast, the 3rd w/ you and the 2nd of Ronnie. I love melding historical events w/ astrology. But these 2 planets being in the near or exact anaretic ( omg, probably really mangled the spelling) degrees of Saturn & Neptune.
      One thing I hope for tho, is that Neptune moving into Aries might lessen the amount of illusion/delusion & disinformational garbage that seems to be at least one of the energies that Neptune in Pisces brings. Ok, not counting on that😅 and I know too, that it’s up to the Collective US to demand more truth. Or to have a greater appetite for Truth vs collective delusions.

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  14 дней назад +1

      @@marilynnyoung7026I think it will!

    • @IlluminationPortal
      @IlluminationPortal День назад

      Yes! Absolutely love the historic connections to help guide us into the near future.

  • @meaganlawler7536
    @meaganlawler7536 15 дней назад +13

    So appreciative of these high caliber conversations with Pontiac.
    Thank you both😊

  • @debraandrews2896
    @debraandrews2896 15 дней назад +12

    This is the conversation I was looking and hoping for …THANKYOU 🌸💚🌸

  • @Kathryn721
    @Kathryn721 15 дней назад +15

    I'm new to both of you but you are both now my favorite astrologers

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  15 дней назад +1

      I so appreciate your support Kathryn. That is very kind!

  • @joellenlevitre2590
    @joellenlevitre2590 14 дней назад +5

    This is so helpful. Thank you. We need visionaries like Ronnie Pontiac to help us ground right now.

  • @barbaraward9007
    @barbaraward9007 15 дней назад +10

    Love the focus on making our lives work for us and using the planetary influences for positive outcomes rather than sinking into the fear, hopelessness, and overwhelm. Let's do this. Let's make this planet what we want it to be. As Gandhi says, "Let's be the change we want to see." Thank you both for an inspiring discussion.

  • @kellyhopkins8430
    @kellyhopkins8430 14 дней назад +4

    Great information and encouraging take on this very interesting time.

  • @maraisaksen8427
    @maraisaksen8427 15 дней назад +5

    Love this Thankyou both 🙏

  • @DebGeeDee
    @DebGeeDee 15 дней назад +4

    Such an inspiring discussion that I was meant to hear today - much thanks to you both 🙏🏼🙏🏼😘😘.

  • @pamsabo4551
    @pamsabo4551 15 дней назад +7

    What a wonderful, realistic pep talk!

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  15 дней назад +2

      Thank you. I like how Ronnie sees the bigger picture based on history. It is so easy to feel like it is all crashing down but we have good things coming up too if we focus our attention there too.

  • @rosetrebino9221
    @rosetrebino9221 14 дней назад +4

    I’ve only been studying Astrology for past year. I’m hoping to harness the best vibration of Neptune/Saturn/ Mars.
    There’s a lot of attention on the negative aspects of but teaching people how to take the best & simple be aware of the lower vibrations.

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  14 дней назад

      Keep up the good work! The world needs more inspirational astrologers.

  • @jeanette9205
    @jeanette9205 14 дней назад +3

    ❤ wow! This was wonderful. Thank you both😊

  • @Jane441
    @Jane441 15 дней назад +6

    Enjoy these rich conversations, thanks ❤

  • @googlegoogler6694
    @googlegoogler6694 14 дней назад +2

    Thank you both! Love Ronnie showing the historical thread and how great you both are at interpreting and explaining the energies.

  • @internationalicon
    @internationalicon 15 дней назад +3

    I so appreciate well formed thoughts delivered in complete sentences.

  • @kerryurech
    @kerryurech 15 дней назад +6

    This is excellent.

  • @juliamcconoughey2672
    @juliamcconoughey2672 15 дней назад +9

    Hillary may have 'won' the popular vote but she is as old guard as you can get, particularly when you consider what was done to Bernie Sanders, not once but twice.

    • @matriximaster
      @matriximaster 12 дней назад

      No Dem wins without massive corruption.

  • @mapleeeefs
    @mapleeeefs 15 дней назад +2

    Yes! Bec. People will be awaken to live with ideal rather than live base on their selfish desire & greediness! The coming era is the more you live with the ideal or the sake of others the more you will be happy & prosper! I remember my great teacher who share with me this thoughts for the future! Beautiful prediction thank you!🙏♥️

  • @IlluminationPortal
    @IlluminationPortal День назад +1

    I love this discussion! Inlove the historical references..its all fascinating!

  • @elleNWC-js2wd
    @elleNWC-js2wd 9 дней назад +1

    Like greenspiritarts below, a longtime astrology student here and I can only add my voice to the chorus of appreciation for your on-point, deeply grounded, wide-ranging discussion. It is indeed greatly beneficial in this moment-so much so that I'm back for a second listen today. Ronnie's empathetic, encouraging manner and calm, measured delivery, paired with your effortless lead-ins and returns, make it so easy to listen and really process the information. You make conversational magic together-thank you both for this series!

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  9 дней назад +1

      Thank you for your kind appreciation. These conversations are grounding for me as well with all the madness in the world!

  • @IlluminationPortal
    @IlluminationPortal День назад +1

    I'm watching these videos with Ronnie and when i visited your channel...i couldn't find them. Im grateful RUclips just played both of these videos. Fascinating conversation! Exactly what im receiving about these energies ☀️Im very happy i found your channel ☀️

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  День назад +2

      Yes! I am happy you found it too. I appreciate your thoughtful comments.

    • @IlluminationPortal
      @IlluminationPortal День назад +1

      ​@@lawlessastrologyI appreciate you🤗

  • @Ruby2657
    @Ruby2657 15 дней назад +5

    Oh my goodness I love your channel! ❤❤❤

  • @kalishiva4427
    @kalishiva4427 14 дней назад +2

    Once again… so inspiring. Thank you. ❤🙏

  • @gladysdecelles9951
    @gladysdecelles9951 12 дней назад +1

    Thanks both of you. I am 71 and still very excited about changes to come.

  • @rubenflores6381
    @rubenflores6381 4 дня назад +3

    WOW! What a wonderful video. THANK YOU so much for posting this. I will share it and re watch it!

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  4 дня назад +1

      Please do! Thank you so much 🙏

    • @rubenflores6381
      @rubenflores6381 3 дня назад

      @@lawlessastrology Do you have these episodes available in the Apple Podcasts app? I was looking for it but couldn't find it (so I can also listen to it on the go). Thanks again for your work!

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  3 дня назад

      @@rubenflores6381 not yet. I just started this channel less than three months ago - so definitely still a learning process. It’s on my list for the future though. Thank you for the support.

  • @archeanna1425
    @archeanna1425 15 дней назад +9

    What a good use of an hour and ten minutes. Thank you.

  • @pattyolsson
    @pattyolsson 15 дней назад +2

    Awesome conversation! So many interesting angles all converging in divine timing ☯️

  • @katewineroth216
    @katewineroth216 15 дней назад +1

    I love you Ronnie. You are so wise and generous. Thank you!

  • @IlluminationPortal
    @IlluminationPortal День назад +1

    Reimagine the highest timelines in new earth...thats how we create it

  • @robinleist8657
    @robinleist8657 13 дней назад

    What a fantastic interview!! I love what you both had to say. Very uplifting and confirming for me how I already feel and have lived my life. Life is totally for learning. I am a boomer, so thank you Ronnie for the plug. I know during my time, we marched for all kinds of rights for people, abortion rights (can't believe we're still trying to achieve women's rights), gay rights and marched against wars. Thank you very much. I will continue to listen and follow both of you.

  • @theastrologersdaughter
    @theastrologersdaughter 15 дней назад +2

    Brilliant! A truly fascinating and sweeping discussion. And I love Ronnie Pontiac’s hair …It says I don’t give a f@!$ in the best way #RPCL

  • @mirandaryan3362
    @mirandaryan3362 14 дней назад +1

    Thank you!

  • @roryobrien7168
    @roryobrien7168 13 дней назад +1

    Great advice at the end here. A wonderful guide for a much better life experience. And, just to reveal where I’m coming from, I am over 80 years old.

  • @DJ_DKBGD
    @DJ_DKBGD 15 дней назад +2

    That was a very interesting conversation about Saturn and Neptune. In 2019 I had a very bad premonition about the year 2020 and this decade. I was thinking more about the reactionary rampage of Uranus in Taurus but I also knew that Neptune in Pisces was going to be an exercise in mass sadomasochism. I have Saturn in Taurus at 29 degrees in the 12th House. Exile and loneliness. I was aware that Christianity would be mortally wounded under Neptune in Pisces. Thank the heavens for that. The fact of the matter is that over the past 500 years white supremacy is Christianity. This is the primary reason that I'm not a Christian, leaving aside that I don't believe in the theology. But I digress. Between Neptune in Pisces and Uranus in Taurus, this is the terminal stage of Christian white supremacy. This is why we're witnessing the current rampage of reaction. I agree with Pontiac. There's a good chance that the GOP will win this election. However it will result in the final nail in the coffin of Christian white supremacy. Unfortunately it might have to happen. White supremacy will go full on and reveal its full horror. So much that will be banished forever. The same with sexism. I'm afraid that the world needs one final exhibition of Christian white supremacy patriarchy before we put our foot up its ass and end it once and for all. Honestly, I want them to try to impose a Christian fascist theocracy so that I will lose all of my restraint. I'm not afraid of them. I'm ready to go to war. When Neptune enters Aries, it will trigger my Natal Jupiter and Pluto and will set me on the warpath against the forces of reaction. I'm also be grateful to the Boomers. Finally I can't meditate. Between my Gemini Ascendant and all of my personal planets in Aquarius meditation is impossible. I've tried it many times but rather than relaxing me it makes me nervous, uneasy and agitated. But I'm not like most human beings. Sorry for the long comment but thanks for providing so much to consider and ponder. Nice one!

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  14 дней назад +1

      As always I really appreciate your support. You are an OG!

    • @DJ_DKBGD
      @DJ_DKBGD 14 дней назад

      @@lawlessastrology Thank you! I support you all the way! I always look forward to your posts.

    • @krisymar1
      @krisymar1 11 дней назад

      Can I just say that there are deeper Christian teachings and interpretations that differ from your mainstream Christianity which IMO has been weaponized as a power grab (via guilt, shame and fear mongering) and to cause conflict and division. It’s a shame bc when you dig deeply enough and into the mystical or occult side of Christianity there are some incredibly inspiring, beautiful and enlightening teachings that could really benefit mankind. And because Christianity has been twisted, misinterpreted and hijacked it’s getting attacked viscously, and so in that regard distinctions should be made between the pure and impure teachings.

    • @DJ_DKBGD
      @DJ_DKBGD 11 дней назад

      ​@@krisymar1 I'm thoroughly knowledgeable of Christian theology. For the most part I ignore the reactionary ravings of Paul and understand the allegorical essence of the Book of Revelation. So I zero in on the Gospels. There is nothing about the actions or sayings of Jesus that inspire me nor that I can take seriously. At best he's an arrogant joker. At worst he's a vain psychopath. Christianity is the basis of our sadomasochistic society. There's nothing inspiring, beautiful or enlightening teachings of that religion that benefits mankind. I know many believe so. It's a case that people overlook or discard the psychotic and ridiculous aspects of the religion and instead choose to focus and highlight what seem to be the positives. I accept that the theology of Paul would be correctly classified as the "impure" teachings and assume that those of Christ as recounted in the Gospels as the "pure" teachings. Stripping away what centuries of theologians, popes, priests and laymen have interpreted or imposed upon the religion, when I look at Jesus and what he did and said, there's nothing that is useful to my life nor frankly to the world. For if it were the case, the majority of the people of the world would've freely embraced Christianity. More than half of the world that adheres to the Christian religion only do so because it was imposed upon them. The fact of the matter is that Christianity has run its course. It has had nearly 2000 years to prove itself. Time's up. It needs to be removed as a cultural, political and social force. Its historical record is for all to see. It won't disappear overnight because old habits are hard to break. If it couldn't cut it after 2000 years, it's never going to.

  • @mani7263
    @mani7263 13 дней назад +3

    I have natal Chiron at the anoretic degree, eighth house and sharing with my natal Saturn. Getting my ass kicked right now but hopefully I've dodged the Big C with an early surgery on May 3, right before Neptune stationed...and now struggling with terrible neuropathy...Yes, an absolute crisis of faith. This conversation has been very helpful. 🙏🏻

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  13 дней назад +1

      I am sending you healing energy. Life definitely kicks out a** sometimes. Hang in.

    • @lindadeal3344
      @lindadeal3344 12 дней назад

      God bless you and keep your faith as this healing may take a while longer to totally heal...know that I will keep you in my prayers for a full healing and will never stop sending white healing light and love to you and your soul and angels as I am sure they will do their best always for you!!

  • @ruthanne13
    @ruthanne13 15 дней назад +3

    Paying close attention. Natal Mercury 29° Scorpio trining the 29° Pisces Neptune. And quincunx the 29° Capricorn Pluto. Natally my Sun is quincunx Saturn 24°Scorpio/ 25°Gemini.
    Thank you for this today.

  • @rosetrebino9221
    @rosetrebino9221 14 дней назад +2

    This astrologer has helped me understand the pervasive anxiety about Biden.

  • @user-jl4rw5ou1j
    @user-jl4rw5ou1j 10 дней назад

    You both resonate what to look forward to in the future in a good way❤ Gives me hope, good vibes and excitement!!!!

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  10 дней назад

      Thank you. It might be a turbulent at times but we need to remain focused on the big picture 💕

  • @loiseilers5058
    @loiseilers5058 11 дней назад

    Very uplifting. Just what I needed.

  • @loiseilers5058
    @loiseilers5058 11 дней назад

    Brilliant! Ronnie is so great!

    • @Joandearc594
      @Joandearc594 10 дней назад

      Alot of change in the air...lmao

  • @lightbodyvehicle
    @lightbodyvehicle 6 дней назад +1

    WOW...29TH DEGREE...THE POINT OF LONELINESS.. natal Saturn is 29 degrees Capricorn, natal Venus 29 degrees Aries. Sums that up spot on.

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  6 дней назад +2

      29 degrees are powerful. They can feel like you are misunderstood because you kind of have one foot into where you are going or in the past vs where you are. But the beauty is those are important planets for you in this lifetime - ready to make breakthroughs.

    • @lightbodyvehicle
      @lightbodyvehicle 6 дней назад +1

      @@lawlessastrology HEY. THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE. MUCH APPRECIATION.

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  6 дней назад +2

      @@lightbodyvehicle Thank you for watching my video!

  • @girluntangled1512
    @girluntangled1512 12 дней назад

    Thank you!❤ this was a very good listen!

  • @susaniceland
    @susaniceland 15 дней назад

    Thank you 🙏

  • @dianatracy9687
    @dianatracy9687 15 дней назад +2

    I watched the convention years ago. It was so exciting. We need something like that to engage the young people. When astrologer said neither Joe Biden nor Trump will win or even run 2 years ago

    • @matriximaster
      @matriximaster 12 дней назад

      Young people are waking up to the lies and corruption of the DNC and Washington overall. They are too smart to be hoodwinked to these usual suspect liars.

  • @reneewalker3658
    @reneewalker3658 14 дней назад

    Hi there! I love your channel and information!!! Thank you! I just subscribed to each of your channels!

  • @LizA-vf7hd
    @LizA-vf7hd 15 дней назад

    Fantastic conversation and I have many new understandings to help carry me forward.

  • @anaceciliaamericano3014
    @anaceciliaamericano3014 15 дней назад +1

    I loved your talks. Wondering what this scenario might mean for Brazil, my country. We have the same polarization of US. And our president is also old - although he represents a hope for more social justice. Brazil is Virgo (september 7th). We Don't know for sure what the ascedent is - probably Aquários or Pisces. Maybe you could have a saying - one or two insights - about it?

  • @margaretkish9534
    @margaretkish9534 8 дней назад

    This was excellent. Such an intelligent, informed conversation. I would just add that Biden may be old, but Bernie, E. Warren, and Pete B. have had a lot of influence on his policies. Look at the policy differences between the two sides not the old men.

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  8 дней назад

      Agree. Praying we avoid disaster in our country for sure.

  • @rosetrebino9221
    @rosetrebino9221 14 дней назад +5

    I like the idea of Harris- Liz Cheney as a way to bring the world together.

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  14 дней назад

      We need more creative and powerful thinking from Dems now for sure! We need forward thinking ❤

    • @matriximaster
      @matriximaster 12 дней назад

      2 status quo corrupt morons? We have we need to dump the representative government model. All of Washington works for themselves. They are not qualified to run a tobacco stand.

  • @juliamcconoughey2672
    @juliamcconoughey2672 15 дней назад +1

    It was a lose!! and it was tampered with in Florida

  • @Acumind1
    @Acumind1 13 дней назад

    My son who is in his late 50's has his Saturn return at the end of Pisces. Worry about how it will be play out?

    • @Acumind1
      @Acumind1 13 дней назад

      PS - he was born Jan 4, 1967

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  13 дней назад

      Not to worry. Could be a time of spiritual awakening or integrating his past. It definitely has positive possibilities ❤️

  • @Joandearc594
    @Joandearc594 10 дней назад

    Ronnie has an axe to grind....😂

  • @dianatracy9687
    @dianatracy9687 15 дней назад +3

    We're supposed to not see our lying eyes. That was not a Neptune moment. That was someone suffering from sundown Downers where he can't think after 4:00 unless it's written down

    • @truth-alwayswins
      @truth-alwayswins 15 дней назад +6

      Well that’s odd. Because the CNN debate did not allow notes?
      And Joe’s transcript of unscripted answers to questions was superb. As always.
      The problem was in his delivery.
      So what else is new.
      We listened to the same bs in 2020. “He stutters, he’s old”well…for someone with bad delivery and a stiff walk, Joe still manages to bring it for the American people regardless.
      Combined with his unrelenting schedule, travel abroad and a cold…the debate stage was ripe for a stumble. Let’s add
      1) exhaustion; 2) the emotional toll of a son recently convicted of a felony; and 3) running a superpower, engaged in rallying support for Israel/Gaza peace, support for Ukraine while dealing with a corrupt SCOTUS… and a cult of Orange Jesus loons.
      I’ve heard dementia experts weigh in. Anecdotally I have experienced family members with Alzheimer’s. This is neither.
      Are you a dementia practitioner?

    • @BarefootInAK
      @BarefootInAK 15 дней назад +3

      @@truth-alwayswinswake up

    • @dee8714
      @dee8714 15 дней назад +2

      @@truth-alwayswinsYour level of delusion is mind boggling!!

  • @robinleist8657
    @robinleist8657 13 дней назад

    I want you both for President and Vice President....not sure who would be in what position. ha!

    • @lawlessastrology
      @lawlessastrology  13 дней назад

      Ronnie can be President - I’m cool with VP 😛 but thanks for the shout out! It means a little to me.

  • @valshiro515
    @valshiro515 13 дней назад

    Great chat but it's a bit overly optimistic to assume that in the event of the WWIII, things wouldn't get as violent as in the past. Gaza citizens would show you the recent destruction to challenge your opinion. Violent military operations can still destroy millions of people's lives. It's just done easier now than before. But whether it's an actual tank or a drone shooting down a building, people can still die under collapsed structures etc.

  • @janceleste
    @janceleste 12 дней назад

    Sorry you lost me as a subscriber when you said Biden could have been wonderful president ! Bye

    • @ransbarger
      @ransbarger 12 дней назад

      What did Donald know about his followers when he said he could murder someone in the middle of the street and they would still vote for him?