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Data: "Captain, it appears that the Klingon vessel just ejected Ambassador Kell from their port-side airlock."
Worf: its always good to eject junk and excess cargo before a hyperspace jump XD
Picard: 😳🤷♂️ Steady as she goes number one
Something tells me that when the Ambassador was taken into custody his life expectancy took a sudden nose dive.
Yup!
They do tend to search with sharp implements.
@@bgrigg07 They search from the inside out with surgical tools
More like a noose dive
"Ambassador.....remember what happened to that Vulcan on that transporter pad....." - Star Trek: The Motion Picture
LeVar Burton doesn’t get the credit he deserves for his acting. He is great
He complained that they didn't write him a GF, hinted that it was racist.
Seen it in the DVD extras of TNG, not long after they wrote him in that one were he dates the hologram of the ship designer.
He's my butterfly in the sky.
I agree
Lance Reddick would disagree
Eeyup.
i absolutely adore the fact that the klingons don’t doubt picard for even a second. he is a man of incredible honor and worthy of the trust of the empire
Well, Vagh was pretty suspicious of him earlier in the episode. I think it had less to do with generalized respect, and more to do with the fact that he disarmed a would-be assassin just a minute earlier. That makes it pretty unlikely that he's the Romulan spy.
@@fredocarroll Its more than just the thwarting the assassination, though undoubtedly that was major. The governor and Picard have been butting heads this episode, and Picard been holding his own, even responding in Klingon to an insult, prompting the governor to compliment his Klingon swearing.
By the time the assassination even happens, and LaForge, a crewmate of Picard's, is the seeming culprit, the governor only suspects the Federation, cause by this point he respects Picard and knows he has no part in this business.
For one thing, he reached out and stopped Geordi from shooting the Klingon governor. If Picard was the Romulan spy, why would he stop the assassination attempt? Meanwhile, when Data suggested there must be a spy, the ambassador immediately challenged him, insisting that they all witnessed Geordi acting on his own. Why does he care so much? How could he know for certain either way? If he were innocent, he would just listen and consider that maybe there was a spy, like the others. He outed himself lol
Searching the ambassador is all they need to prove Picard guilty or innocent.
@@damo9961 and if they actually want to fight them, its probably better for Klingons of their rank to not be on the enterprise.
I do like how the ending of this episode doesn't just sweep Geordi's programming under the rug but actually deals with it AND shows that Troi was more than a "I'm sensing " sensor. Points where she's actually a counselor were too rare.
It's like the writers didn't even know what a counselor does!
She's also a telepath so she can help him with reassembling his memories
@@SantomPh Empath, she's only a telepath to her own people. And Geordi's a dick, so empathy won't help much.
It's because viewers are so stupid that they don't consider something valuable unless it's some flashy ability that saves the day in a spectacular way.
Troi's job was very important, but it's boring to show on television. However, it serves as an anchor to keep people, stable, grounded, and focused.
This is the same kind of logic that causes people to misconstrue the caretaker role that women had in the old days as "lesser". But, just look what happens to our society when you strip away the caretakers and tell them all it's more honorable to be workers. Look at our society's mental and emotional state now.
As I recall, this episode ended with an especially lengthy shot of an Enterprise fly by. I think they ran a little under time, this one.
La Forge: “I remember being on Risa!”
Jonathan Frakes: “It never happened.”
Hahahaha that's a perfect reference
Geordi: _But I remember being there!_
Will: _No, you don't. Don't even try._
You're incapable of that level of rizz!
Not this time. It's a fake. We got you.
"A total fabrication"
You know when the second Data says who the possible suspects are, and the Klingon captain INSTANTLY looks at the Klingon ambassador without even a SECONDS hesitation, tells you of how Picard is regarded in the Klingon Empire.
I always expect Picard to say, "I am willing to be searched immediately" but no one gives him a chance because everyone in the room is like "Nah, Picard's legit. It's this guy."
It obviously wasn't Picard as he had just foiled the assassination himself.
@@whompronnie I expected that, too.
In fact, I would expect that Picard to have insisted on it.
To be honest the ambassador did quickly say he wouldn't be searched. Usually raises red flags, and when headed back to the Klingon ship to be searched he requests asylum.
The governor looked at the ambassador immediately. The ambassador didn't even have time to reject being searched. The governor knew it was him from the moment Data said his name.
Cut to Picard tossing an E-band transmitter. "Looks like I got away with it."
Of course. Where else did you think the Romulans would have got the genetic material to grow Praetor Shinzon? Picard's been a Romulan agent for decades by then.
No thanks to that meddling kid data 😂😂😂
rofl
😂😂😂 That's epic, nice one!!! Can imagine Picard screwing with everyone throughout the series, similar to Sith Lord Jar-Jar Binks 😂
Satiee was right all along!
Look at Troi being all therapeutic and shit
Someone should do a supercut of "Troi being useful" just to redeem the poor girl
It would just be the sex scene with Riker from Nemesis on loop.
That wouldn't fit 2 minutes. Most of it would be her and Crusher doing their yoga workout in the hallway.
The scenes from the S1 pilot with her walking around in a short skirt would pad it out a bit as well.
What do y'all have against Deanna Troi?! Does she owe y'all money or something?!
@@sussy_6998 and you know ramming the Enterprise-E into The Scimitar and using her telepathy to find The Scimitar, WHILE IT WAS STILL CLOAKED, so Worf could shoot it and disable the cloak
"Wow Geordi, it's a good thing this was an isolated incident and won't happen again. I'm so glad the Duras sisters won't hijack your visor also. That would be awful, like maybe bad enough to destroy the ship awful."
Unfortunately, the child safety lock hadn't been invented by that point.
Oh, wait. What? It had??
@@stormthrush37 There's always someone able to circumvents such measures.
Even in real life.
@@Timberwolf69 fair enough though ive heard that they have counter measures in place in case that did happen
@@DarkKnight52365 Still nothing someone with enough knowledge couldn't circumvent...
Romulan spies have been all over the Alpha and Beta quadrant for centuries.
Troi's thinking, "Yeah, one of these days I'll get to drive this thing...and say some obvious stuff in the meantime..."
An episode where we get to see the transporter effects for Romulans, Klingons, and the Federation. Quiet the rarity.
The three different effects also show that they all work differently.
I wonder exact how they all are different?
@Leo Peridot Oh, and don't forget about when Kirk, McCoy, Scotty and Uhuru were beamed up through a severe electrical storm, and were suffering from transporter psychosis when they materialized!
They spent about a day running around the ship as raving paranoid maniacs until Spock put them through it, again!
@@TheNoiseySpectator it can't be, no!? A technological process it's the same no matter who does it, us the romulans or Klingons.
@@alexiachimciuc3199 Consider different generations of televisions. Different parts and processes, all to achieve the same end goal. It likely depends on when they were developed. If all three developed transporter technology before running into others with the same, they'd use what they had. If one developed it and met the other two who had none, they'd likely all use the same.
Sometimes I can't make my rarity shut up
Troi: OK Laforge, tell me what happened.
Laforge: I went to Risa, attracted dozens of ladies, and entertained them one by one.
Troi: I see we have a lot of work to do with tearing down the fantasy and revealing the reality beneath.
Laforge: What?, I'm a ladies man!
Troi: Right there! See what I mean?
Troi: Just to dissolve any doubt... When you say entertained... was there any tain involved?
Are you sure you didn't find those ladies on a holodeck?
@@jdb2002 One of the few burns Wil Wheaton ever delivered in his life was Wesley of all people taking a jab at LaForge over that. lol
This is one of the most unsettling TNG endings ever. I remember watching this as a child, and remembering years later how disturbing it must have been for LaForge to realise he's been violated in such a personal manner.
New definition to the term eye rape
The way Troi teased it out of him was really well done, too. This was a damned well-written episode.
But then it was all better by next week. Never mentioned ever again.
Would've been great character-building fodder.
@@TightPantsJack Similar thing happened when Troi was kidnapped and impersonating a Romulan. I think it was mentioned in only 1 other episode.
@@TightPantsJack the limitations of episodic storytelling. You don't notice it as often with TNG because their situation is usually either focused on the exploration, or can be hand-waved away because they're in Federation space, so most things are easily fixed. But Voyager really suffered. They should have gone with the more epic form that DS9 used.
Data: "so our options are captain picard, and the klingon ambassador"
Klingon governer: Immediately Looks at the Ambassador cause he knows damn well it isn't picard.
the Ambassador protested about being searched
- For all they complain about humans or the Federation, Klingons respect Picard. I don't think they have much respect for the Ambassador, they just submit because he acts under the authority of the High Council. Until they have a reason to arrest him, of course.
- It makes zero sense for Picard to be complicit, since he just saved the Governor's life. It's clear he could have pretended to hesitate for one second, and let Geordi take the blame or even get killed, but he stopped Geordi instead. You don't have to be a Vulcan to realize that logically, Picard wouldn't do that if he wanted the assassination to succeed.
@@toomanyaccounts yes but watch the scene, he side eyes the ambassador immediately before he protested
@@KenshiImmortalWolf it was due to what the ambassador had been saying previously
I think this also kinda shows how far some of the Klingons have fallen at that time. A Klingon Ambassador requesting… Asylum?! Choosing to live an dishonorable ignoble existence in comfort rather than own up for his treason!
"now, there was a romulan ship and the first thing you did was...?"
"putting my pants back on"
Or maybe changing them.
@@lucianlandry8332 Most likely after crapping himself when he saw the huge frickin' Romulan Warbird outside.
You know what it's like on a long trip. Playing some music, talking to the computer, holodeck simulations of Dr Brahms....
I love the detail of Data diplomatically mentioning Picard as the first possible suspect while already looking at the ambassador.
I gotta say as a kid, that moment where La Forge says, "No the first thing I did was..." and he realizes that something did happen to him was chilling. My heart sank, it always stood out for me. And scenes like this emphasize how good and actor Levar Burton is expressing so well behind that VISOR.
Now let's pour some War Nog out for the homie Ambassador Kell, who was never seen again. He was heard again...screaming from the otherside of the city...something about his anus, the songs say he was hard to understand he screamed so loud.
They decided to take Worf's advice and subjected Kell to death by force-feeding him prune juice.
A Klingon strip search will soon get underway !!!.
This will lead up to Geordi getting optical implants in the future.
@3Rayfire Only chilling when you were a kid? I think it is still chilling for adults, today.
It was also a good (if pedestrian) display of how to get someone to recall memories they have been programmed to forget.
@@johnbockelie3899 maybe Picard should have granted his request, immediately. What are the steps to granting someone asylum?
First, you take their official statement about who they are, and why they want asylum. Then they are given a full medical examination.
Then, you take an inventory of _everything in their personal possession!_
Of course, if they are found to be a suspect in any crimes committed on Federation territory, such as espionage, and conspiracy to commit murder, or being an accomplice in an assault...
Then their roles in such crimes are pursued and punished accordingly. 😭
Oh yes.
I think a full psychological evaluation could also be an option.
.... If you see what I mean. 😏
16 hours later:
Governor Vagh: "Oh, the E-band transmitter was in Kell's pocket."
Vagh's bodyguards: "Why did you not tell us _before_ all those body cavity searches?"
Governor Vagh: "I didn't want to spoil your fun. And you did find a surprisingly _large number_ of body cavities."
They probably made a few extra ones, just to be sure it wasn't under the skin.
Klingons *do* have a lot of redundancies.
0:13 Picard just stands there and calmly watches Worf getting beaten up. 😆
Unfortunately for the Romulans, the one man smart enough to do the job is also a master procrastinator.
"Smart enough"? Or best qualified?
The "only" qualified option. A Starfleet officer with free unquestioned access to roam the whole ship. With a cybernetic implant that can directly input programmed commands into his brain.
I guess that Rutherford cyborg kid in Lower Decks would be a similarly "useful" option.
The moment Geordi starts to remember... that's so tragic.
Klingon Ambassador: “I formally request asylum.”
Picard: “Nah. I’m gonna co-sign your death sentence.”
Picard rejecting his request is one of his best lines ever.
I don't think he had a choice. The Ambassador was a prime suspect in a conspiracy to start a Federation/Klingon war. Had he granted asylum he would have angered the Klingons and jeapordized the treaty.
@@sherpajones Picard would be sanctioned himself for abusing the asylum process. You can't use the asylum process to give sanctuary to suspected criminals. What Picard could've done was arrest Kell himself for injuries to his officer & being implicated in a conspiracy to embroil the Federation in a war. But Picard was happy to smooth things over with the Klingons by giving them Kell to deal with.
Most of his best lines are towards klingons. You may test that assumption at your earliest convenience.
@@boscovilante4068 Oh, I don't know think that would be _abusing_ the process of granting asylum.
But, it would be divisive because it would be solving the incident by pulling him away from the Klingons and into Federation hands.
Surely one of the first steps to granting someone asylum would be taking inventory of all their personal possessions...
Well, to be fair, he did say he would grant it to him once the ambassador was absolved of any wrong doing.
Gotta admit that Picard showed some quick reflexes in this one. He caught Geordi's phaser arm like it was a home run baseball flying at his kid's head in the grandstands.
And then turned his back to the unrestrained attacker. Those two actions are almost mutually exclusive - either Picard has hand to hand combat experience or doesn't.
@@dotancohen He probably doesn't, hand to hand combat is more a Kirk thing. His physical prowess is probably just because of Starfleet training and experience so while he's no slouch in combat it's pretty obvious he's first and foremost a diplomat/scientist
@@supernukey419 Priority was turning off the phaser and then taking it away. Geordi also didn't fight back. Little to no resistance means he could be safely taken care of.
@@dotancohen Picard started a fight with Nausiccans shortly after graduating from Starfleet Academy. He was winning until one of them stabbed him in the back.
@@cirrustate8674 Then he should know never to turn your back to an unrestrained assailant.
The ambassador's expression when Data says it's either him or Picard, and he realizes he's fucked.
Geordi really needs to change the wifi password on his VISOR.
He did, but they guessed it was R3@d1NgRaInB0w
@@pjabrony8280 that’s hilarious
Or someone should tell him that there is a password.
There's an insane number of bad things you can do if you have physical access to a device, the password is the least of your worries.
If only his password wasn't "password"
I remember in a first season episode Data was roaming around the ship, solving mysteries smoking a Sherlock Holmes pipe. I think Data entering the cargo bay smoking a pipe in this scene would've certainly given the viewer value for money.
Nah, this calls for a Columbo trench coat.
@@berserkasaurusrex4233 An Ironside wheelchair perhaps.
"Well, I was just trying to set the mood. I played some music, I started talking to the computer. You know what it's like on a long trip."
"Yes, we're all aware of your computer fetish."
Geordi: _I still remember playing Moorhuhn Romulan Edition - which really sucks on HUD-and-tablet, by the way, you should get the holodeck version, ideally the one with the inofficial patch - when all of a sudden..._
Troi: _Yeah, you can stop there. Geordi, I think you are dealing with a repressed very awkward experience you had on Risa._
It will take time Geordi but we’re going to pay no mind to this next week
It's an episodic show, not serial like DS9. Can't really blame them there - there's nothing they can do about the format.
At least it wasn’t just a commercial break.
This episode was so good. Such a great acting job by Levar Burton here.
Ambassador: I refuse to be searched and I demand you give me asylum!
Picard: So, you've just been caught manipulating my crewman to try and murder someone on my ship, and you expect me to PROTECT YOU?
Ambassador: ....Yes?
Picard: Bye, guys. Have fun executing this prick.
Governor: Oh, we will. >:3
Ambassador: :(
Yeah...that's not what was said out loud, but I'm SURE that's what everyone was thinking.
I think he mostly just wanted to stay OUT of Klingon hands. I suspect their justice system is more... efficient and timely than the Federation's.
Data: the spy must be either Picard or the Ambassador.
Ambassador: It wasn't me!
Picard: So you're saying it was me?
Ambassador: Yes!
Picard: Why don't we both empty our pockets and settle this.
Ambassador: I refuse and the Federation has no authority over me.
Governor: Ok, then I'll search you.
Ambassador: ...Picard, can you grant me asylum?
Picard: Didn't you just accuse me of being a spy?
Ambassador: ...shit.
Gotta love Michael Dorn's struggle acting.
That wasn't a struggle there if you mean the sigh questioning Data asking La Forge to be taken into custody.
I like it when Troi gets to be a counsellor. Mental health on a starship that may be in deep space for years is a really interesting aspect, as would be family life aboard (though I always wanted to be a kid on a starship, I was never sold on the idea)
Don't worry Geordi, there's no way Starfleet will just let the Romulans get away with kidnapping and torturing you. What's that? They will? Oh well.
To be fair the Federation has a lot to answer for after inflicting Sela on the Star Empire.
Well, I'm sure the Ambassador is paying a heavy toll for his part in the conspiracy.
I feel like Sisko paid the Romulans back for this, and every other crime against the Federation (with interest) during "In the Pale Moonlight."
@Leo Peridot
At this point in time they have yet to even discover the wormhole let alone encounter the Dominion.
The Federation were pacifists, at most they will raise the matter with a Romulan ambassador, assuming there is one.
I’m sure the Federation launched a protest to the Romulan government. The Romulans no doubt denied all involvement.
What is the Federation supposed to do, exactly? They had no direct trade with the Star Empire, so they couldn’t impose economic sanctions. Go to war? Given the threat of the Borg at the time, that must’ve seen like a quick path to self-genocide.
All they can realistically do is what they did: Learn from their enemy’s tactics and guard against them.
4:24
In a perfect world Troi and Geordi would head Warp 9.3 to Risa and spend four weeks sorting this all out.
Just as friends of course.
Man, Geordi can't even get lucky going to Riza...
No?
I'd say Sela fucked him over pretty good. 😨
@@TheNoiseySpectator Buh doom, tttsssshhh.
Well, in fairness, pretty much any crewmember who goes to Rise gets kidnapped, brainwashed, tricked or worse.
If Geordi was cooler: _"Well, in retrospect, I should have seen it coming, really. SOMETHING was gonna come between me and Risa."_
People sometimes talk smack about counselor Troi for stating the obvious, but this is where she would normally shine, helping people go through all the things that the final frontier throws at them.
I mean TBF traditional Freudian psychotherapy is largely that. Ever use Eliza (or Azile)? The difference is when its one-on-one it prompts the patient to think critically. When it's just spouted on the bridge it's pretty unuseful.
unfortunately for Troi, counseling sessions rarely makes enticing TV
@@romulusnr "Unuseful"?
I would call it rude and intrusive! 😤
People think of her as being so lovely or sexy, I thought she was _creepy!_
@Sykar Yes, but it took a long time until we actually _saw her_ doing other things like in this clip. 😒
I was thinking just now, should she have been assigned to two different types of positions on a ship of over a thousand people;
Both acting as an advisor to the command crew dealing with the missions and external situations they encounter, _and_ being the therapist and morale officer for the crew?
Those are a lot of roles to keep seperate, and not let them all run together. So, I began to wonder what her rank was, at this time? I rewound the video a little to see how many pips she has on her collar, but...
I guess _princesses_ get to walk around in their jammies, when they are officers in the military. 😒
On TNG they have therapy sessions, whereas on DS9, they go to Quark's and get hammered.
"welp, I'm extra dead"
*transports*
ever wondered what someone who begs for a transporter accident looks like? :D
Earlier in the episode, the ambassador thanked Worf for killing Duras. Kel turned out to be more treacherous than Duras. He almost started a war between the Federation and Klingons.
something tells me that the Klingon Ambassador was never seen or heard from ever again . . . after being thoroughly interrogated.
They searched him alright. Every organ.
@@romulusnr Klingons get very... thorough in their searches
Klingons have lots of good searching knives that they use to thoroughly inspect suspected traitors.
Absolutely zero doubt they executed him after interrogation.
he has been receving beans thru his visor!
As long as he doesn't pass gas through his ears.
Gonna be a bitch to clean that thing out, that's for sure.
Sounds good, until you realize they're Romulan beans, yuck!
that look, when Picard turns after Data says its him and the Ambassador, towards the Ambassador, is like "you're doomed"
Worf: *exists*
Random Klingon mooks: And we took that personally.
He's still in disgrace at this point.
I hope Geordi gets his trip to Risa so he can get some great Risa beans.
A Romulan officer once tried to brainwash me. I ate his liver with some Risa beans and a nice Chateau Picard.
* SLURPSLURPSLURPSLURPSLURP *
Beans and Risa are great together!
Roll that beautiful bean footage
The Romulans have done some messed up things, but breaking Geordi is definitely near the top.
@@OldTexasRonin It's a faaaaaake!!!
Oh come on! Their own resistance kidnapped and altered Troi's appearance to have her as a member of the Tal'Shear and take command of a Romulan Warbird.
honestly, imagine how traumatizing this would be? Having someone in your head, controlling your actions, giving you memories that didn't happen?
Turned you in a tool, denying you agency, ordering you to kill and possibly provoke a war.
That could've been called-back upon in a later season episode, Geordi talking candidly about that and how it had affected him, and Picard makes a rare comment about his time as Locutus.
@@WhiteScarsEmo There's still "Picard"
That's called MSNBC.
Yeah, the memory thing would be worse than the programming to kill in some ways, I think. That moment talking about Geordi's actions after seeing the Warbird is horrifying. Imagine it: in that instant, he starts to have a memory of his reaction to the appearance of a Romulan ship. At the same time, he still has strong memories of being somewhere else, safe and sound, hours later. You suddenly lose all certainty about what is real and what isn't. Gives me the willies.
After having seen a Starfleet crewmember wearing a Visor on Star Trek Lower Decks, and after Geordi's Visor was used here in an attempted assasination plot and was later used by the Duras sistrts to get the Enterprise shield frequency, you'd think Starfleet Security would declare Visor technology as a high level risk and not allow Visors aboard starships.
Or insist on an Airplane Mode.
To be fair, you'd think Worf, Riker and *Data* could've considered... re-modulating the shields to a new frequency!
I know that sounds so absurd. About as absurd as Counselor Troi telling Geordi and Data about what the Romulans use as a power source for their warships! LOL
Apparently in one of the novels, an Admiral does just that. Geordi either has to get ocular implants or be transferred to a low security post.
@@23randomuser And the Admiral in question just so happened to be Admiral Hayes from Star Trek: First Contact and Star Trek Voyager's "Hope and Fear" and he took over Admiral Leyton's old job after he resigned and was arrested for his attempted takeover of the Federation.
Pretty sure they did which is why Geordi gets the Ocular Implants in the TNG movies
That's why after 300 years the Federation decided it's finally time to cure blindness, in time for Star Trek First Contact
If that was DS9 Worf those two mooks would be lying on the ground unconscious.
@JJ Willywinkle Well, the guards are holding him back because that's there job. If you walk menacingly toward the President, Secret Service will stop you. As to why Worf doesn't communicate his intention sooner. Well... they're Klingons.
@JJ Willywinkle He was heading in that general direction of the governor, literally trying to walk between the two of them past the governor. And your analogy is slightly flawed as the Klingons are a foreign government. It'd be like secret service shielding the present against a member of a foreign military who was trying to walk through them by the president. Not going to happen.
Picard: Mr. Data, when did you first suspect Geordie was receiving E-band signals through his visor?
Data: Over 5 minutes ago.
Picard: Why didn’t you inform Mr. Worf or someone from security immediately?
Data: I thought it would be better to inspect Geordie’s shuttle first to gather more information so I could formulate a theory about what happened to him.
Picard: Data, you’re fired.
Picard: Why didn’t you inform Mr. Worf or someone from security immediately?
Data: I felt that striding around like a boss, with some really cool tension music, ready to crack the puzzle against the clock, made for a pretty fine episode that might snag us a new season, Captain.
Picard: Nicely done, Commander.
Can't arrest someone without evidence bro, we aren't vegetarian space socialists for nothing you know
@@romulusnr who said anything about arresting him? Alerting the security chief of a potential security issue isn’t the same as arresting someone.
Data literally saved the day again. He alerted Worf who alerted Picard to Geordie. If that ship didn't have Data, they wouldn't have made it out of the first season. The federation would have been destroyed a dozen times over.
@@hansolo631 Data was lucky. He’s lucky that Geordie was walking slowly towards the Governor. He’s lucky that O’Brien stopped Geordie to show him something. He’s lucky the computer didn’t take longer to analyze the shuttle.
Vagh: We will take the ambassador back...and search him ourselves.
Kel: internally: OH GOD OH FUCK!
@@hibbidyjibbidyy and when it's over, the ambassador's family will be lucky if they leave with their underwear after their house is stripped of all of their property.
no KIDDIN'! shit's DARK!
"I'd be happy to grant you asylum... _as soon_ as you're absolved of this crime"
Translation: Yeah, let's see if you're alive tomorrow before I start any lengthy bureaucratic process.
I'm sure he had a little difficulty walking
Or Living
Only when the accusation of High Treason is proven to be unfounded, he can grant the asylum. Otherwise as the ambassador would be a fleeing criminal looked after by the Klingons, the Federation would have to bring him to the Klingons anyway because of the search warrant. Just as in real life you cannot seek asylum from crimes you really have done, only from crimes that are not seen as crimes by in our times the UN Human Rights (like speaking against your government, even if it's forbidden in your country). High Treason is a crime in the Federation and the Klingon Empire, so no Asylum possible.
Levar Burton's mother: ohhh you have such beautiful eyes.
Burton: I got a role for several years where I wear a visor and no one's gonna see my eyes
"Captain Picard and Ambassador Kel. One of them may be concealing an e-band transmitter" love it Data :-)
Data was 50% certain it wasn't Piccard...
@@davidtucker9498 Oh Data knew it wasn't Picard, but he didn't have proof it wasn't Picard. So he was JUST stating the facts. Picard would have no problem with being searched, although I doubt it was necessary, since I'm sure the Klingons hailed like 2 minutes later saying they had both an E-band transmitter, and Kell's severed head.
Picard always carries a P-band transmitter. That's why his hair started falling out.
Here’s where the counselor has an impactful scene. And of course Levar acts it beautifully, you feel his turmoil.
Hands down, the best episode of the 4th season - so much intrigue and suspense. The writing and pacing are phenomenal, and the final scene features some of the best acting from LeVar Burton and Marina Sirius.
I don't find Marina to be that serious at all, frankly.
I forgot they were actors for a moment, I was all too caught up in Geordi's pain.
Poor Geordi I always felt so bad for him this episode
You'd think this would be a career ending incident for LaForge, Romulan culpability or not, he'd would be a liability in his current state, they would at least transfer him.
I was thinking that too.. he couldn't function on diplomatic missions. Having an employee with a history of attempted assassination is too compromising.
@Koowluh Going to ignore the several times Data caused trouble due to his status as an android? They should take him apart and destroy the pieces to make sure it never happens again.
My favorite way to watch episodes.
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I love how the Klingon immediately looks towards the ambassador. Like even he is like
Data: Captain Picard...
Klingon: (nope)
Interestingly enough, Troi eventually gets kidnapped by Romulans a couple of years later. Go figure.
I don't see the connection.
@@TheNoiseySpectator The episode in question is S6 E14 - Face of the Enemy.
@@BryanWicks Yes, but what does that have to do with this, except there are Romulans in both.
@@TheNoiseySpectator I was just pointing out that Romulans kidnapped two Enterprise bridge officers.
At some point, EVERYONE gets either kidnapped or captured by hostile forces over the course of the show.
@@BryanWicks Now, that's a good point. 💡
It is kind of worrisome, isn't it?
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I like the fact not all Klingons weren't honourable. It shows they are complex and have different motivations, morals and attitudes.
If Ambassador Kel makes it through his trial and is not sentenced to death. I can think of one suitable place to send him, a place Captains Archer and Kirk know too well Rura Penthe.
Oh he conspired with Romulans to have a Klingon governor killed in a very cowardly way (assassination with a phaser from behind). He's dead, no iffs, ands, or butts about it. If he had gotten Geordi to fight the guy in a duel or something they might've seen it as more honorable and let him be exiled to Rura Penthe.
This is one of the best Geordie episodes. All the cast get to play a vital role, but Geordie is at the heart of it, and I appreciate that at the end, they didn't just shrug it off like, "Oh, well, you got brainwashed." He's upset, he's angry, he's vulnerable, and probably scared. I'm glad they did that. Levar Burton is a good actor.
Out of everything in star trek, I think (and hope) this was the cruelest thing done to anyone. Being forced to see horrors again and again and being brainwashed into assassinating a Chief Obrien even if it was a simulation, forced to try to kill an Emissary to destroy everything he stood for and acquiring fake memories including one of love, is so messed up. Knowing star trek tho, I bet someone has dealt with worse and I am just not aware of it
Edit: Yup, their were even worse things that happened that I either forgot about or haven't seen yet! Time to binge Star Trek! Although this is still up there as one of the worst things to happen in star trek but its no contest you want to win
For a second, thought you were talking about the ambassador's fate ... being tortured to death by klingons after they found the e-band device on him.
Picard's torture by the Cardassians (there are four lights!) and the Borg seems worse. It's not a contest!
@Koulnis O'Brian and the decades long sentence he was given the memories of including killing a friend for a crime he was actually innocent of? The events in "Future Imperfect" where Riker first had missing years then a Romulan prisoner only to be really the plaything of a lonely kid weren't exactly kind.
@@ohthebill definitely not a contest anyone would want to win.
Umm there are 4 LIGHTS!!!
Geordi: I must kill the governor (Reggie Jackson from Naked Gun). Man Geordi’s visior gets him and the Enterprise in trouble. First this, then the Enterprise gets destroyed during Star Trek Generations.
Imagine if he'd still had it in First Contact. The Borg could have just hacked it and made Geordi blow up the Phoenix.
I like how even the Klingon governor immediately looks suspiciously at the ambassador
La Forge: I remember the Romulans kidnapping me.
Troi: Meh that’s not so bad. Get over it.
La Forge: They forced me to watch Star Trek Discovery.
Troi: Oh my gosh, that’s terrible! I’m scheduling you for a session every day for the next six months!
That head bow from the ambassador as he's beaming out. Thats what wishing to rematerialize in space looks like.
Absolved of this crime. 😇
It's nice to see Levar Burton get a chance to act instead of just spout technobabble and Troi to actually do some counseling.
I thought it was interesting that he was genuinely unaware of what he was doing, and had been given alternate memories. That technology is not spoken of again until DS9's "Hard Time".
The thing about all these Klingons collaborating with the Romulans - I get the sense they were thinking the same thing that our main characters in DS9 would eventually think: that the Klingon Empire was hopelessly stagnant and corrupt. And they hoped Romulan collaboration could help change it, inject new life into it.
"And the first thing you did was..."
I... I reached for the beans...
Geordi should've gotten cybernetic implants after this episode. Getting captured by Soren in "Generations" was downright sloppy.
Most of Generations was sloppy, just so they could destroy the D and get E out
The Next Gen really did an amazing job with the Klingon/Federation relationship. The Klingons came to trust the Federation or at least key representatives in larger and larger matters. You could see the writing on the wall of them eventually joining the Federation. This ultimately helped trigger the Klingon war in DS9 as some feared erasure.
"It will take time. A long time" And it was never brought up again
That's episodic TV that Berman pushed for and ruined Enterprise and made Voyager meh. He nearly ruined DS9 because he did not want a serialized show.
@@-pancakes7205 It wasn't just Berman pushing for an episodic show. _TNG_ was a *first-run syndication* TV show from the beginning (no network was willing to pay for it outright). It didn't belong to a network. Individual stations bought seasons and aired them. Thus, the show-runners no control over which episodes were aired on any given station and in what order, and the same was true for reruns. They needed things to be pretty self-contained so that people wouldn't be confused by not having the backstory.
Allmost everyone of the bridge crew was taken over by an alien force at one or more points in time. I dont remember if Pullasky was around when that strange VR game was used to take over the ship (only Wesley got away at first), or not, but she was at least partially controlled by Nargilum. Everyone else could have been considered as potential risk.
That alien only made her flop around on the bridge for a few seconds. Crusher was the one that disabled Data in the Game episode.
Love this episode! that background music heightened the tension as well!
After their investigation was concluded the Klingons fired the Ambassador. Out of a torpedo tube. Into the system's sun.
(Arnold voice) You're fired!
Always wondered what happened to him. I'm quite sure he was put to death. But was he interrogated and his contacts revealed first? Were there more involved in this plot? This could have easily spanned several more episodes. Oh well. Fun to theorize what could have been.
I'm glad you brought this up. I assumed as much too, that he would not have been able to seek asylum. But it does raise the question, despite what he had done, wasn't Picard obligated to grant him asylum once it was asked for? I remember in Deep Space Nine, where a Weyoun surrendered himself to Sisko as a prisoner of war, cynically and as disingenuously as Ambassador Kel does here.
@@SanjaySingh-oh7hv It's complicated, but since he's already in custody with the Klingons, it might well be that he's already outside of being able to be granted asylum.
It'd depend on what the treaties between the Federation and the Empire are.
After all, he's *physically* under arrest. They've literally got hold of him, and it'd be a little bit tricky to make them release him without making the situation worse.
I don't believe he's obligated to accept an asylum request from someone who is suspected of using the asylum to escape legitimate charges. It's for people escaping political persecution not actual prosecution. Especially when he just tried to frame one of Picard's officers.
Additionally this is an internal Klingon matter. Granting him asylum to hide from a crime committed against the Klingons would have been interfering in their Internal Politics. Or, at least, Picard could have made the argument if anyone asks.
@@SanjaySingh-oh7hv Picard isn't obligated to provide safe harbour for criminals or suspected criminals fleeing other jurisdictions. Indeed, Picard would commit an abuse of the asylum process if he did this. Picard could arrest Kell of course for crimes against a Starfleet officer & conspiracy to start a war.
2:38......in a final act of shame & cowardice, the Ambassador attempts to flee from the consequences of his actions by requesting asylum, only for it to be denied. 2:53, nevermore was there an expression that says "FUCK! I'm dead!"
1:06 I love how matter-of-factly he says, "No, you did not."
2:39 And this is when Kell gives himself away. He clearly doesn't want the Klingons searching him, either.
Klingons are always presented as incompetent and/or morons:
- none of the gov’nor security was actually keeping an eye on Worf until he started walking in their direction
- Worf tries to make his arrest walking *between* the security dudes
- the gov’nor thinks that the Federation tried to kill him when it’s the captain who saved his life and the would-be assassin looks completely out of it
And we’re supposed to believe Klingons were able to develop warp drives? I can’t imagine them inventing black powder…
TNG Klingon Empire is consistently depicted as incompetent. They talk a big game, but in reality are dishonorable, cowardly, and stupid. TOS Klingons were bastards, but at least they took pride in their work.
What you don't see, are the Klingon scientists and engineers that build stuff. Humans have a huge range of intelligence too. There is an Enterprise episode where a Klingon lawyer complains that the "warrior caste" is taking over everything, and the scientists, engineers, and lawyers are getting shafted. The Klingons you see in the show are the ones serving on ships, aka the military.
Klingons never developed their own warp drives, all of their technology was reverse engineered from the Hur'q during the Hur'q invasion.
Troi, doing what a ship's counselor actually does, instead of being relegated to Captain's Mood Ring.
0:34 Creepy how LaForge just turned and went with Worf.
wait, wait - Deanna did a bobo there, she gave a suggestion of a romulan ship to which Geordi acted on. she might have "implanted" that idea, a common problem when you ask questions under hypnosis. Geordi is ofc not under hypnosis when speaking to her - but its still highly suggestive, is it not ?
Good point, but they knew there was a Romulan ship, and Geordi might have needed some kind of trigger to remember it.
I remember as a kid watching this episode and feeling high anxiety and fear for the ambassador. He did a bad thing and he was going to answer for his actions in the worse possible way. Just to be clear, I didn’t feel sorry for him. Was I the only one who felt this? Anyone else?
Geordi must feel so violated. False memories of private experiences implanted and not even sure which ones are false.
But when he said he isn't sure of anything, that is quite a spiritual experience. It can awaken one to how you cannot identify the illusion while still in it.
I had that kind of feeling once. I merely had the sensory perceiver and the observer moved apart in time a couple seconds, and after the experience was over, I was wondering whether it was still going on, realizing that I couldn't really tell but only get used to accepting the familiar one as legit again.
I do love the fact that the Klingons find the idea of Picard working with the Romulans so ridiculous that they immediately know it’s the ambassador
After 1:32 when Vagh says, "Why would the Romulans want to kill me?", it always sounds to me like Picard is about to say, "The Romulans have always wanted to kill you."
"Because you're such a nice guy. And, you know, a Klingon."
The klingon governor did not suspect Picard in the least. Dude knew immediately who the guilty party was. Shows how much respect has in the Klingon Empire, even if that governor was talking a lot of smack beforehand.
Data to the Klingons: "We have investigated ourselves and have cleared ourselves of any wrong doing."
Levar is channeling Bill Shatner on the line "I'm.. just...not...sure"
And we would literally never even reference Jordi going through his own personal Loctus experience EVER. AGAIN.
“It’ll take time, Geordi. A long time.”
Well, about a week.
And prescriptions. And training exercise devices. And this shoe polish that does three things in one that I can offer you for half price because you are my friend, but don't tell anyone. I'll even throw one free ticket for the holodeck in.
Those klingons never use science to think. They always want to fight. 😂
It's as if it's an allegory for something!
E-band signals, tetrions and sub-space rifts. They snub our Star Trek heroes every damn time.
2:54 Heh, the reaction of the ambassador when he realized that he was well and truly fucked.
The amount of injustices the Federation let's go is so vast that you wonder why they are considered the good guys.