If you want a more in-depth and honestly better explanation on the “decline” of Argentina this guy made really good video. - ruclips.net/video/EeCu8pMHma0/видео.html
I have a question for you. first of. great work. i really enjoyed the video. Is there a chance you will do more of these vids about how geography could have made a country a super or great power? I would love for these kinds of vids to be about lesser done countries than the big ones ( russa,China,Brazil, South Africa) like the countries with huge potential like India ( or the subcontinent) Indonesia, DR Congo, Tanzania, Sudan before the south split. Ethiopia if it had a coastline, or Central African republic. Keep up the great work!
@@RK-cj4oc thank you! Unfortunately probably not though. At least for the time being. Geopolitics can get well…political and it takes away some of my enjoyment. Mistakes hold more weight on these as well, which is inevitable. It can come across as biased when that wasn’t the intention.
"there are four kinds of countries: developed countries, underdeveloped countries, Japan - nobody knows why it grows - and Argentina - nobody knows why it doesn't" Simon Kuznets
Japan and Argentina are the world's economic development wild cards. Japan could easily have modernized only at China's pace, and Argentina could have fulfilled its economic superpower potential as this video indicates.
@@yodorob Actually, Japan had been industrializing since the Meiji restoration in 1868. By World War II it was already industrialized. This set the foundation for its fast modernization afterward.
An additional cause to argentinas failure i would add, is the constant changes in political and economical planification. Each time a new goverment arrives, it makes sure everything that was made by the previous one gets torn apart and start growing in a different direction. There are no long term plans in argentina, and while that persists, argentina wont see any major grow in any aspect. Greetings from Argentina, love your content
VAMOS LIBERTARIOS LETS MAKE ARGENTINA GREAT AGAIN! NO MORE CORRUPT KIRCHNERISM/PERONISM ITS THE MACHINE OF POPULISM WITH FAILED ECONOMIC POLICIES! VOTE LOS LIBERTARIOS WITH JAVIER MILEI! THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR A NEW PROSPEROUS ARGENTINA! VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
@@J7Handle This is the same issue we see in the US, Canada, Europe, and elsewhere when governments spend without the intention of ever paying off their debt.
I went to Patagonia in 2018 and was blown away. By far my favorite place on Earth. Buenos Aires is also, undoubtedly an amazing city. Spent 4 days there and could not get enough. Highly recommend. Great video as always!
Wow that's really nice actually thank you for it. If may i ask why? What make some koreans to be so lovely to us argentinians? We like Korea also but i can't say it would be a whole nation Phenomena, more like a general feeling of good intent towards asían and koreans
Most countries here in latino america could've been developed countries and Argentina with Brazil on top of them, but we have rampant and unchecked corruption that ends up in nothing. I always say "My country has everything, but our people ruin it".
Better if they let the Dutch have had Brazil, sure would have been better. And let Latin America for Germany/Scandinavia. They are not as corrupt as Portugese/Spanish.
I am from Uruguay, every time we (uruguayans) talk about to Argentina, regardless of the political view, we arrive at the same conclusion, Argentina can, and should be a Superpower
Argentina could have been a developed country long ago, and in fact, as the video showed it was in the rigth trace many years ago. I am chilean, and my first international travel was to visit my family (uncles and cousins) with my parents when I was 15, in 1978. To me, Argentina looked like the future. These were difficult times, and harsh time due to dictatorships on both countries. Neverrheless, after we got back to democracy, Chile, with less natural resources, has surpassed our neighbourgs. I hope they return to the right trace, for such a great country and people.
Es dificil para el resto del mundo entender lo que fueron las dictaduras en Latinoamérica, y que todavía seguimos en proceso de Descolonización(que de paso, esto llevó a muchos nacionalismos extremos que empeoraron la situación) Me alegro que te haya gustado Argentina hermano, siempre serán bienvenidos 😁 Latinoamérica unida, al igual que África, son los únicos actores que pueden cambiar el futuro horrible del que nos vienen advirtiendo todos los días xD Te manso un abrazo che 😁
Pinochet also liberalized Chile's economy because he listened to Milton Friedman's students. If Argentina had the same level of economic freedom as Chile they would have the same GDP per capita as Canada or the US.
The main difference between these two countries where the level of corruption in their sociaty, that's the reason Australia is s great power in all aspects and Argentina is not.
Agrgnrtina and the Ud were basically both similar when it came to gdp per Capita but both countries went completely different path the US went f down a much greater path becoming a superpower Argentina not so much.
@@ΣτέργιοςΚοσμίδης-ψ3τ there is about the same corruption proportionally, it's worse now, but australia wasnt more or less corrupt, australia was the scion of the greatest empire in the planet, that got rich of robbing blind half the world adn just kept being that way with their common wealth, argentina had no such niceties.
@@cseijifja Argentina had exactly the shame niceties, was part of a great empire the Spanish one, the culture is only difrend. The only difference is the way of thinking between these to civilizations. Argentina inherited the spanish and Italian way of thinking, corruption and how to become rich quick and Australia inherited the British way of thinking how to prevail in the long run.
I met some Argentinians in Olympic National Park a couple days ago and they were super cool and friendly people - I’ll be rooting for Argentina in this World Cup!
Thinking of the Argentine decline problem I had always considered that the Panama Canal had to have a very important role by killing the influence of its ports. I don't think I've seen or read more than one or two people who ever brought it up. You'd be the second or third and that depth of thought is probably what makes your content great.
@@sc1338 I don’t know that that’s relevant tbh though . At the time Aus and NZ industrialised their markets were mostly European and North American. At the time Melbourne was the richest city in the world it nearly tied with Buenos Aires. Then Argentina had hyperinflation and Australia didn’t.
IT's not that it's "declined", it's that the "growth" in the US for the past several decades is based on fraud, deception and money printing. Yes, kinda hard to compete with that. And that goes for everywhere
@@Monki_29 you seem to forget we have often be (poorly) ruled by military men, rich oligarchs, bankers, judges, and mafia. Some of them directly, some indirectly. They are NOT politicians and popular will never reach or touch them.
@@Monki_29 Not really. Most South American countries have huge wage gaps between the rich and the poor but Argentina's used to be much smaller has a huge middle class so the income inequality is far smaller. Like the video says Argentinians tend to live better than most South Americans ana they should be better but their politicians professinal kleptocrats.
Hand in hand are the politics of those that put these people in power. This gets to the real reasons Argentina is in the doldrums. Mismanagement and political mental illnesses.
Argentina's geographical location isn't that strategical to the trade route as it's located nearly in the "end of the world", so i guess they need to maximize their potential in agricultural exports and hi-tech sector
But, as briefly mentioned in the video, before the Panama Canal was built, if anybody wanted to go from anywhere in or around the Atlantic, to anywhere in or around the Pacific, only had two choices. Go around Africa, or go around S.America. The latter of which meant you probably had to stop at some point in Argentina to re-stock with supplies. That was definitely a geographical advantage both strategically and economically.
My great grandfather left for Argentina in the early 1920s from Croatia or what was then Yugoslavia. Spent 25yrs there, mind you he never returned "for holidays" in the meantime. It always made me wonder if I had any Argentinian cousins and where are they. He worked on oil wells and no one knows much more about that part of his life. He lived to be 96 yrs old. What a different life and world it was a 100 years ago. But, anyway, this will for ever make me feel connected to Argentina.
Just feel from afar, don't even think to come here or the feelings will turn bad. Expecting maybe more inflation than Venezuela in the upcoming months. xD
@@RicoBanani Those surnames are hard to find here becouse the people that registered inmmigrants from Europe, didn't know how to write them, for example, my grandmother's surname originally was "Thömme", when her parents joined to Argentina, they wrote it as "Domé". Hope it helps
The few times I've been to Argentina I had the time of my life. What a beautiful country and people. It amazed me how big it is and all that it has to offer. But what stood out the most in my opinion was and will always be its people. They are such funny and friendly folks, believe me. Most of the times you engage a conversation with an argentinian you will probably end up laughing your a** out 😂. This also demonstrates how resilient they are as people. Despite all the ups and downs in the economy, socially and in politics I think every other country facing what they face on a daily basis would result in massive suicides or violent turmoils, but they laugh and joke their way out of it. They wake up every morning to go to work and add their two cents in the quest of making Argentina great again. Even if they often say they are doomed or not worth being a superpower, or even arrogant, their way of living life is unique and I think we all should learn from them. Man, I love Argentina ❤ Greetings from Argentina
The political instability, economy mismanagement and constant military juntas should’ve been mentioned, not the only causes of course, but have had a very important role in the economic stagnation of the Country.
@@lorenzodell289 The military juntas are true guiltys for the underdevelopment in South America. Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Uruguay really suffered socially and economically with the dictatorships.
I remember back in the 1980's. People who traveled to Argentina had to worry about having to pay a heavy duty on bringing Personal Computers into the country. I can't imagine that policies like that make it easy to develop a good technology industry.
It's much worse than that now with the oligarchy firmly in power, they will hold electronics for 6 months and still charge the VAT! It's impossible to do things there because of the government, thus, huge black market.
@@FreedomLovin We dont produce dollars, we only obtain this comodity selling grains, (that the big producers doesnt bring to the market cause they are waiting for the Peso to devaluate). We import more than 10k million dollars in energy every year + key supplies for the industries day to day , now 5% of the national badget is destined to pay the FMI debt, our Central Bank is running out of Usa currency and you are upset cause you cant buy hardware to mine crypto or play LOL?
@@emilianosilva8266 This is bewilderingly facetious. The same general import tax applies to hardware for most industries, including supplies for the few heavy industries that still remain. Argentina could have THE single largest automobile production market, complete with an EV battery branch, if the government wanted to. They need the tax from the materials needed to make that work, though, so instead of developing the most advanced vehicular production market in the world they'll piddle around taxing netbooks 10x times the price so their assembly lines in Tierra del Fuego can keep assembling cheap chinese shit that nobody will buy since it can't measure up to even a midrange brand computer, and is either gonna rot in storage on big box stores until it becomes ewaste or get donated as school supplies in yet another government plan.
Large companies take all their profits abroad and never invest it back in the country. Even leaving currency control out of the equation there's no way we can summon all dollars needed for industrial development. Argentina's agricultural elite is still much in in power and they're not interested a bit in the country's development. They just want their dollars out of the country and would do anything (specially meddling with politics and funding corrupt political parties) to have it their way
Isn't there some joke/saying that goes something like this: "There are four types of countries in the world, poor countries with poor geography, rich countries with rich geography, Argentina, and Japan." Meaning that Argentina is poor with rich geography and Japan is the opposite.
to my argenteans brothers I understand the struggle of corruption it runs in a latin america. I wish latin america would overcome this. we could literally become top economies. I hope for a prompt and soon economical recovery. Mexico🤝 Argentina will always be brothers! thanks for giving us great football and amazing music and super friendly ppl!
Don’t forget! Landlocked European countries also tend to have access to navigable rivers (such as the Danube) which empty out into oceans and allow for greater access to international trade.
Amd if they don't they are generally in the EU and have free trade and movement with the rest of the EU so they still don't face major barriers to trading beyond their immediate neighbors.
Austria is a highly developed country, Switzerland even more so, but neither of them owe their success to access to rivers. Other factors play much more important roles.
@@dewayneblue1834 technically speaking both do have access to major rivers, the Danube is considered navigable up to Kelhiem Germany which is upstream up all of Austria (the Danube flows through Vienna), and the Rhine is Navigable up to cities of Rhinefelden (split by the German/Swiss border) and Swiss ports are clearly visible on their side of the river. While clearly the fact they have access to major navigable rivers isn't solely responsible for their success. But it is disingenuous to imply they don't have access. (Switzerland has a navy, mainly created to prevent Germany from getting any ideas about blocking her trade along the rhine durring WW2, her only access to the world ocean not involving driving in Nazi held lands)
Its parasites like you that effect the growth of Argentina the only good thing Peronism contributed was the numerous advanced hospitals and schools and work protection for the middle class however they closed the doors to mass global trade and over protectionsit policies that eventually lead to Argentina's decline , and the ex vice President Cristina kirchner is the most corrupt pathetic witch that exists in Argentina I suggest that you dont have children since decent Argentine's dont want to go backwards with corrupt Kirchnerism your a disease that needs to be wiped out 🐀🧹💩! A new prosperous Argentina will commence with the Libertarians! VAMOS LIBERTARIOS VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁 @@LordMagnuss
The whole southern cone should’ve been a regional superpower alongside Brazil as well. As well as Mexico. Maybe Mexico would have it better if a North American union were to happen. But that wouldn’t happen. Like an all Mexico movement could’ve made Mexico more North American than just a nationality.
As an American, I don't see Mexico as a friend. They almost stabbed us in the back during WWII and Mexico is stuck being a Socialist nation with all kinds of resources but the Socialist governments are paranoid that someone would want to take over that mess there. It is a shame Argentina has not ever matured into a great nation but the entire population is one big basket case.
Regional superpower is an oxymoron. Superpower is by its nature a global thing. If you are regional you are not a superpower. What's next, a household superpower?
@@Poctyk It's a thing, but they normally reserve it to the actual international superpower with they talk about it. Like they'll say China's the regional superpower because it's a super power in the world & that region but not really because it has challengers on the same level in its region
I think that it's a bit of a stretch to say that Argentina could be a superpower, or even a major power. I would say that Argentina does have the potential, with good government, to be a prosperous middle power on par with Canada and Australia.
They'd have to get rid of a lot of non government corruption as well. As it is most of the heavy lifting is forcefully managed by both a Worker's union and a Trucker's union that keep a stranglehold on industrial production and it's neighbouring logistics. And even if these weren't around, the main agrarian cabal can singlehandedly freeze the only reliable income the country gets on a monthly basis. Point being, anyone who wants to attain and retain power with any level of governability is forced, by virtue of the balance of power within the country, to get and stay in bed with a number of bad actors that don't have the country's future prosperity in mind. There are alternatives to all of this. Argentina has an enormous potential as a provider of digitally exported services as goods, and the few sustainable industries that have sprouted outside the more traditional markets all come from this sector.
If Argentina worked on it's economic policies and stopping reaching on the verge of bankruptcy every few years, many immigrants would want to move there (and skilled people as well) and would bring lots of capital with them and help generate lots of it too.
La bancarrota del pais se producen "gracias" a los gobiernos de Derecha o "promercados"...q endeudan irresponsable y demencialmente al Pais como fue el caso del iltimo q hubo entre 2015 y 2019 ( Macri) q pidio mas de U$ 100000 millones en 4 años incluido el ptestamo mas grandede la HISTORIA del FMI x U$57000 millones q dejaron al pais en bancarrota y q ahora sinicamente critican deberias saber estas cosas antes de criticar sin conocer...
A 3 second google search would have told you argentina has A LOT of immigration. We're a country made of immigrants, the reason we're on the verge of bankruptcy every few years is bc the USA can't stop getting their dirty fingers involved in places nobody wants them and ruining economies to stay at the top and continue to steal our resources.
Good video. One point tough, while it is true the agricultural elite dragged down industrialization, that part is incomplete. The big ranching estancias were for cattle raising while most of the agricultural lands were colonized by the mass immigration waves by the late XIX century with the state giving land or selling it for cents to families and communities with the condition to settle. Most of the current center population is descendant of that. In my province there was nothing, being the 2/3rd rich one currently. Santa Fe was just 2 cities and a few travel posts, rets just millions of hectares of wild grasslands. The first agricultural colony was Colonia Esperanza settled by swiss farmers being the first to produce large scale wheat. Before that Argentina did not have agriculture, it was just millions of cows and horses free roaming ranched by gauchos. My town was one built in 4 years by a Italian who bought land ,brought 150 families settled and people started farming in small plots meanwhile the founder donated lands for the railroad line and station. This history is repeated all over the pampean plain. Also by the end of the 19th century those immigrants started to create local industries, mainly for agriculture with Industrias Schneider being the first foundry in the 1870s making tilling machines and other things in my province. Like that it was around. Rapid industrialization happened where it were demand by private initiative and then heavy industries and military production with state programs and private contractors. WWI and the crack of the 29 hit hard on technology acquisition and profits. Then came political instability and state intervention with nationalization waves that broke havoc and destroyed all the progress there could be. Extra note is that the north of the county with higher temps now produce a lot of crops too, in lands taken to natural forests which isn't that good in the long run.
@@Yutub20 mirá las multinacionales son empresas y juegan con la la reglas que los políticos le ponen. Vos SOS una empresa, traés guita para ganar mas guita. Está perfecto, el problema es la cometa abajo de la mesa. Estamos hablando de empresas que traen plata que no hay y después le dicen no podés llevárte las ganancias, es un robo. Podemos concordar que habría que mejorar las leyes, pero son a propósito hechas por los políticos para currar. Fíjate que los peronistas les subsisdian el transporte y sueldos a las mineras y no les cobran impuestos... Arreglado por klistina. Tranquilamente les decís exporten material procesado o industrializado y no les cobró impuestos por X tiempo, exportan en crudo, 35 de arancel.
You have to understand Agentvs, you society is not egalitarian enough. When "Globalization" hit German and South Korea rise but you country needs structural reform and it need use it water ways to for trade, then you will be unstoppable.
@@Argentvs 2015 empiezan a fugar la guita xq ven el futuro incierto y quieren asegurarsela=Super restricciones a la compra de dolar =2018 =2020 =2022 Trabajo en el Estado y me da rabia ver como no puedo defender kas instituciones públicas como tal, muchas tienen su "Autonomía" que en la práctica no se aplica en absoluto...
@@gotija eso de fuga no existe. Cada uno hace con si guita lo que quiere. Si vos vas y llevás plata a Uruguay y la querés sacar mientras el gobierno te dice que esa guita ahora es de ellos no te gustaría mucho. Basta de ésta pavada, por eso estamos como estamos. La plata va a dónde cada propietario quiere, nadie es nadie para decirle a nadie que hacer con lo suyo. Todos son pijas con el culo ajeno.
location is also a huge factor. trade with Asia has to go through either the Drake Passage which has some of the worst seas on earth, or the strait of magellan which is notoriously difficult to navigate. its also in a pretty isolated part of the world without many regionally strong economies to trade with
@@dant5447 waters are ridiculously dangerous and unforgiving most of the year, navigating them is a death wish even with today's tehcnology, but yeah you can still make it if you try, it's just not worth it
No it isn't a huge factor. Argentina can use Chile for West coast transport and they could use the Panama Canal. The problem with Argentina is that it was always centrally managed economy that focused on agriculture and never diversified. Argentinians are "tomorrow we work people" and expect government services to fill their needs. For example, instead of investing in more oil production and refining to lower prices, the government subsidizes gas prices. It is a lazy country with no belief in work ethic. They always pursued the policies for autarky, therefore hostile to foreigner investment. Even today, being part of Mercosur, the flimsy economic agreement does not want foreigners to come in. Despite being supposedly literate, they are illiterate in many other subjects.
As a neighbour of the argentinians, I must say nothing more catastrophic could have happened to Argentina than Perón and his fascist (then turned socialists) ideas. And those ideas persist to this day.
@@HC-wo2tz omg you really dont know? There is a reason to nazism being named national socialism...it is left wing together with socialism that realy is international socialism, this is why Rusia was ally to the germans in ww2 till germans tried to conquer them.
Dumb. The U.S. has absolutely nothing to do with Argentina’s decline. You heard it in this video. Perón, nationalized industries, corruption, social programs, printing money, hyper-inflation, protectionism. That’s all on Argentina. The U.S. had nothing to do with it unless you think the U.S. got Perón elected in the first place, somehow.
Exactly! Always blame someone else for your problems. It makes you feel better. Most things the video mentioned happened to most countries of the world, but consider Uruguay. Similar history, but different results. With fewer resources, Uruguay has nearly double the per capita GDP. Chile is another example of a country that doing pretty well, though they admittedly have better resources than Uruguay. If I'm not mistaken, they were also subject to the Monroe Doctrine, so I'm really confused by that statement. The idea that you have to challenge the US is for power just false. It's not a zero sum game; just run your country responsibly and develop your own economy. The mythical "they" have nothing against other powers in their region (Canada, for example). In fact, I'm sure the US feels that it would be useful to have more stable trading partners in the region. But a culture of corruption, irresponsible spending, and dependency on the government (or any other group) always, always leads to downfall. Honestly, Mexico and Brazil should also be powers, but they have all had similar issues.
@@onehorsetoomany8006don't you see any pattern there? Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Colombia... all four are the largest, richest, potentially challengers to USA continental domination. So PART of the argument is true: USA meddles too much to hamper all them. But still that's NOT the only obstacle. Cuba kicked USA out and it took them long time to starting to level up their economy. And even if they can blame it on the sanctions, nobody fools himself the sanctions are not the only reason that held them back.
I went to school in Buenos Aires in the early 2000’s. I was there when they unpegged the peso to the dollar. Stores removing price tags from merchandise because the price could change by the time you checked out. You would buy milk at the Disco and not be sure the price. As an American everything became 75% cheaper basically overnight.
Argentina is very rich in sources and economical potential country, sadly due to the political and moral mistakes of their policy and leaders in past made economy of Argentina inefficient and cause serious difficulties, at my opinion. Greetings from Spain!
Argentina is a beautiful country. I met many good people during my stay. I explored Buenos Aires without any concern for my safety (unlike my visits to California and New York). I consider Buenos Aires to be a European city with indigenous flair. It would be wonderful if Argentinians could chart a course for market-driven prosperity without the burden of indebtedness.
Lo q no explica el video q las causas del endeudamiento SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE son los gobiernos de DERECHA q endeudan demencial e irresponsablemente al Pais dejando la deuda a los gobiernos q le preceden de corte mas Nacional Popular o de centroizquierda un enorme problema del.q es muy dificil sslir y a los q sinicamente le hechan la culpa de nuestras desgracias economicas...
Lo q no explica el video q las causas del endeudamiento SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE son los gobiernos de DERECHA q endeudan demencial e irresponsablemente al Pais dejando la deuda a los gobiernos q le preceden de corte mas Nacional Popular o de centroizquierda un enorme problema del.q es muy dificil sslir y a los q sinicamente le hechan la culpa de nuestras desgracias economicas...
@@javiermartinmehdi1914 Buéno, este gobierno de izquierda y progresista nos endeudo mas que el de derecha de Macri. Y el endeudamiento no se produce solo con el FMI o el Banco Mundial, queridos kirchneristas.
This video is very informative about the history of Argentina. Many people today are unaware of how prosperous Argentina was from about the 1860s to the 1930s. Much of the credit for Argentina's prosperous during that era should be given to Domingo Sarmiento who served as the second president of the country in the 1860s. Sarmiento was able to unify the nation, and he also championed education. Sarmiento had spent time in the United States, and he looked at the traits and culture of the U.S.A. and concluded that the American model was a better plan for Argentina to follow compared to what he saw in Europe. To a large degree Sarmiento was the architect of a very strong Argentine economy that was based on agriculture from the 1860s thru the 1930s. This video correctly points out that the decision by Argentine leaders not to industrialize eventually caught up with the country over time and led to decline.
@@sturman6020 Idiota, cipayo es un término utilizado solo en Argentina nadie lo entenderá fuera de este y mucho menos alguien que no sea de habla hispana.
There are 4 kinds of economies: - Those with natural resources which are generally improving, - Those without natural resources which are generally declining, - Japan, & - Argentina.
@@lvididnothingwrong1958 No. Venezuela imploded 3 years before any sanction was imposed due to Maduro no longer being able to keep up Chavez's facade when the oil prices hit rock-bottom and their anti-business policies got exposed.
It’s incredible how nobodies can understand that mass printing of money destroys a country, but not national governments. Even after Weimar, Zimbabwe, Argentina and Venezuela, people conveniently forget.
I wonder how large an impact the creation of the Panama Canal had on Argentina. Sailing around South America was the only way to get to the western United States from many different places (Basically everything west of India). Sailing around South America inevitably took you along the Argentine Coast.
Im sure it hit them hard, but the actual country which was devastated by this was Chile, since it's them the ones who own the Magellan Straight and control Drake's Passage, the moment that Canal was opened it was like dropping a nuke on Austral Chile's cities and every major port city at the time all across the country which also made everyone struggle in the port logistics sector and beyond, this may be one of the various reasons of why South America is so economically close to Eastern Asia for a long time now, China specifically
The video points out the evidence that things aren't so good in Argentina and that this has been a long time in coming. However, while it points out that the initial strong start of the country had significant weaknesses, it refrains from pointing out why they failed as history moved forward, instead remarking how global and US downturns affected them and that printing money to cover debts was necessary (was it? did it ever solve anything?). That last part is the real problem. For some reason creditors never value what comes out of a printer. They want the value agreed upon. As soon as that fundamental principle is realized, then priorities for resources can be made. Otherwise, the government will think they have needs that are really wants. When an individual does this they become poor. When a government does this a nation becomes poor. That is why Argentina has failed. That is what the video doesn't point out.
Im from Argentina and I believe that another major problem is the huge class divide. When the country was formed they gave a select number of people "latifundios" which are basically enormous lands, making It so the whole country was owned by 50 people. This was the first real notisable divide but It continúes with what he can see with what you said about Peron being kicked out by the Rich people that werent Happy with the poor gaining money, because there can't be Rich without the poor. This is still present today as in a recent poll done by the goverment 50% of the population is poor.ñ, it's sad really. Excelent video, specially for someone that isnt from the country 🩵🇦🇷
Thanks for the possitive view at the end, argentinians are hopeful people but we are also divided against ourselves into 2 types of political parties that haven´t done any good for our people. One of them likes to perpetuate poverty and the other one wants to forget about the poor. The middle class is always in the verge of going down and the rich as in every country stay rich. So we are like a mobious tape going to the beginning when we think we are progressing. Anyway, somebody said in darkness any light is a strong light so we´ll see how things go in the next presidency.
i still think it possible, remember how china was in the 80s. yeah the population's is crazy different but look at south Korea they have similar population but Argentina is more than doubled the size
@@deyversonlaconchadetumadre It's not just because of cheap labour, india has much cheaper labour but it haven't grown like china. Political system and stability matters too, as well as you need government who is focused on development and growth .
Were the Spanish the worst colonizers? It seems like every country they touched has ended up significantly worse off than those colonized by other European powers. Almost all of them have been rife with corruption, civil wars, military dictatorships and brutal oppression of their citizens by the conquistadors. On the other hand British colonies usually ended up transitioning into healthy democracies with strong legal systems, human & property right along with stability and they even usually maintain ties to their former colonizer voluntarily. Obviously all colonizing was bad for the locals and people were exploited and had their land taken, but it seems like they had very different impacts on the places they colonized.
I don't think so, considering the British genocided the Indians and replaced them with their own people, while the Spanish assimilated their culture and instead of killing them, they gave them rights(admittedly not so many) and reproduced with them
@@CortaxP I mean the conquistadors & Spanish did a whole lot of genocide too to be fair. It's also worth remembering that 80-90% of people were gilled by European diseases in both cases. There was definitely more immigration to colonies from Europeans in British colonies for sure though, that's a fair point. But the whole feudalist system used in spanish Colonies was exploitative and treated non-spanish as virtually slaves, they also brought in a lot of slaves to their colonies.
The British look good if you count the white colonies. India was one of the richest territories in the world, but because one of the poorest after the British squeezed them for everything they got and destroyed their manufacturing sector
@Comrade Gaming When did I say Marxist or communist? I said socialist. Socialism has many forms. Be at the right side of Lenin isn't to be a capitalist.
As an Argentinian, I can say that the country has a really bad problem of corruption. Nestor, Cristina and macri (the last 3 president of the country [not counting Alberto, the nowadays president]) gained more money during their governments, while the country suffered. Pero new constitution in 1945 is te mean reason of argentina economic decline. A constitution that was based on Italy fascist mussolini. In the long run, the constitution do not work and just make more poor people while the state gets more and more money
Entre las fortunas que obscenamente vienen creciendo y concentrándose a costa del trabajo ajeno, no son mayoría las de los "políticos", ni mucho menos. Es muy cierto que la corrupción de estos es necesaria para el saqueo, pero en esos casos solo son intermediarios, de aquellos poderes económicos y geopolíticos que los compraron. ¿O el FMI es un organismo argentino, por citar un ejemplo?
I remember in high school writing an essay saying that Argentina was poor because it lacked industries and services compared to developed nations, and the professor gave me a 7 saying I was mostly wrong... Years later I realized she was somewhat right. Because in reality, it was the people's mindset that made the country poor, especially when it embraces bad ideas such as communism. I mean, look at the difference between North and South Korea; it's like night and day. And now living here in the US, I see more and more Americans slowly destroying the nation turning it into another Argentina... while politicians love it because they dream of becoming powerful with complacent voters just like in Latin America.
@@asdf3568 Nope. Sweden is not a Communist country. It is that simple. Look at Cuba, Venezuela that embraced "real" Communism. China embraced a soft approach and grew but now with the CCP and the hard ruling everything is falling apart.
But it’s filled to the brim with Mediterranean folk who prefer lots of breaks throughout the day and don’t really like work. They love money….and those two factors create corruption. It’s doomed to a cycle of chaos with brief periods of stability.
One thing everyone forgets when they say this is how geographically isolated Argentina is from the rest of the developed world. It makes the US look like next door neighbors with Europe by comparison
@@claudioklaus2642 Australia is on the next door to Asia and having a free trade agreement with Asian countries, especially to emerging newly-industrialized nations like Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Vietnam, China, and India with addition to existing Asian Tigers like Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan. While Argentina has different stories
@@claudioklaus2642 they’re literally right by the largest shipping lanes in Asia. Argentina’s closest shipping neighbors are all third world nations. Horrible comp
I am from argentina and sudy geography. I relly like the video. My opinion is that we have never a chance of be a superpower. We dont have the Technology in the 1880-1914 period and if true that our fisical geography is very rich we dont forget that lack of iron and coal doom the industry plus we are relly far away of europe, this cause the price of transport skyrocket. Sorry my bad english.
We did could. The 1940s ruined it. Argentina had a rapid industrialization driven by private initiative with many heavy industries and military projects involving private business. It was the constant state intervention that stopped economic growth.
Did you know Argentina is one of the global leaders of Nuclear technology and bio technology and that it was the first country in the world to develop the artificial heart including fingerprint technology the first ball point pen Including the bus for transport ,Holophonics the first cartoon animations . You see your the young generation and you have forgotten about Argentina glorious past because of the economic hardships the country is going through and Peronism and corrupt Kirchnerism with that corrupt pathetic witch Cristina Kirchner is to blame for what is happening in Argentina today they want to control the pueblo and keep them struggling for their own power they dont care about the people of Argentina they don't care about you! Argentina is a rich country converted to a poor country due to this pathetic corrupt Kirchnerist party! The libertarians with Javier Milei are the only ones that are capable of bringing Argentina back to its former glory! Vote for Milei in next years elections! VAMOS LIBERTARIOS VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
In a parallel universe with either the same quantum state but different location in the multiverse, or the same location as us but a different quantum state, it's not "shoulda coulda woulda but didn't" but rather "something that did happen, just not in our universe".
I've just saw your video and i can say as an Argentinian, the problems are that politicians like to print money when instead of adjusting the treasury of the state, that's one, we have like 13 types of dollars here, and you tell me "what do you mean you have 13 types if it only exists one" well, the thing is that we have different dollars because it has different uses (and they have different values of course), as an example you have Dollar Qatar which was used for when Argentina was playing the soccer world cup (Argentinians were travelling to Qatar and they paid with dollars), and then you have more for varied uses, and second we have a lot of taxes that if you see how much they collect in reality it obstructs the economy. It has a lot of reasons but these are the main ones i think. I believe in Milei 2023, and we're going to make a long-term plan to make the country rise again.
@@paulfri1569 Singapore is obviously a rich country, due to its geographical position (a world trade port) a economic position that hasn't been made by their own population but by being a British colony in the past.
It was not because the way the spanish empire took It, they in fact work with Many tribes, letting even their already nobles keep their titles in the spanish Crown, its true that existes an uper class that controled most of the lands, but just like in any other country, but when England promote the independence of the spanish colonys, he used the burguesy that ruled in the colonys to stand against the spanish empire being supported by England, and so whith their independence the burguesy got even more power and the made the rules so they cool keep It, because remember, Spain created one of the first Human rights constitution in the world, i think its called "The laws of Burgos" in whichi they declared the so called indians as citicens of their empire havimg the same rights as spanish citicens, and yes there were slaves as well, but yeah the point is that burguesy was able to stay on power because of the way that England promoted this independence and since then, England and the US have made sure that all the spanish speaking countries, stay week so they are not a threat for the anglo-saxon sphire of influence
Argentina could be great if they actually wanted to work. Of course the currency and politicians play a role in this but it's a perpetuating cycle. Javier Milei gives me some hope for Argentina and the world. What a great leader he would be.
Lo que si si milei entra de presidente hay que sobrevivir cueste lo que cueste por que ese si que no te va a regalar nada ni de casualidad. Se van a beneficiar los ricos solamente. Espero que ayuden a los pobres dandoles oportunidades de trabajo.
@@sergioht8763 Que basura. Los izquierdos crean mas pobreza porque pobreza los dan mas poder. Los Kirchners y izquierdos no quieren resolver pobreza. One day you Argentines will realize that looking for government solutions to your societal dysfunction is the reason Argentina is dysfunctional.
Milei representa al sector que quiere precarizar aún más la educación y el trabajo de las mayorías, con la libertad de pagarles $ 2,50 por su esfuerzo.
Imagine a world where south america wasn't developed to be extraction colonies allowing them to develop good institutions so they could eventually become the great nations the deserve to be One day, argentinian brothers, one day we shall be great, hopefully together, signed: Brazilian man
As an argentine, the problem was not the agricultural exportation based economy. Look at australia, best and richest country in the world and they just export high value/technology services and an agricultural and mining based economy. The real problem are the cultural differences and the level of economic freedom. While Australia is one of the most free economies of the world Argentina is nearly comunist That in combination with high inequality, systematic extreme corruption and low levels of educations destroy a society.
A 100 years ago Argentina was 85% people of European origin. It was a prosperous and advanced nation. However after 1930 Non Europeans from neighbouring countries starting to pour into Argentina. Thus Argentine started to decline, and as the European numbers declined and the non European element grew in number, the decline excelerated. Now Argentina in only 60% European origin, and that number is dropping steady. Thus Argentina is unlikely to reach high standards of living and prosperity again.
Problem with South America is they were settled by mostly the Spanish. The English were far superior at nation building and corruption isn't rife or a way of life also..
Well the real reason is the demographics if you have a nation of moslty white people that know how to read it would be more sucesfull than a whole bunch of colonies that had the most diverse population in the globe at the time which was the 19th centiry which is latin america latin america isnt poor because of spains fault its poor becase since latin america first got independance from spain instead of uniting like the usa did they didnt unite even worse they were fighting each other so basically under spain they were united and without spaim it was total chaos and they were disunited
Argentina might have bright future, as agriculture becomes ever more critical. Any country can become industrial (ok maybe not every) but only naturally gifted land/weather could become agricultural powerhouse. I think that's where future lies: food supply.
@@timothyfoutz6147 Where i live they tried to rob me 7 times in a month and stealed me from my house +1000$ plus my notebook with more than 3k projects in FL Studio. I think anything is worse than that xd. Just wanna live in peace in a small town in Switzerland.
@@ceo7083 I feel bad that they stole from you. Hopefully you can make back what was stolen. I’m curious now, where do you live in Argentina, Rosario? Salta? I’m probably going to be moving to BA in a few years time. 😊
Just to point out, Argentina was not a colony, it was an integrated part of Spain. I know it can be confusing for non-Spanish speakers, but there are big differences between a conquered territory and a colonized one. Argentina was as Spanish as Barcelona or Madrid, the same laws and rights applied in both places. To give an easy to understand example, Northern Ireland is not a colony but part of the United Kingdom. Anyways excellent video
@@IrishCinnsealach The Spanish Empire used the roman system, they were no colonies but integrated part of Spain itself, something similar like Canada or Australia were for the british, in essence the viceroyalties were independents contries united by the spanish crown
@@holaadios2263 oh get a grip If they weren't colonies why did Argentina gain independence through war Have you even heard of the Spanish American wars of independence You claim that they were independent countries even though the result of the wars of independence saw Spain lose dominion over all their possessions in the continental Americas and retained only the islands of Cuba and Puerto Rico until 1898. They were colonies simple as that The definition is a country or territory ruled by a foreign country's government or emperor or monarchy Roman provinces were colonies And Spanish America was Spain's colony's
It doesn't help Argentina that it's on the literal end of the World making trade with other regions hard. But they do have the natural resources to be in better shape.
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If you want a more in-depth and honestly better explanation on the “decline” of Argentina this guy made really good video. - ruclips.net/video/EeCu8pMHma0/видео.html
I have a question for you. first of. great work. i really enjoyed the video.
Is there a chance you will do more of these vids about how geography could have made a country a super or great power?
I would love for these kinds of vids to be about lesser done countries than the big ones ( russa,China,Brazil, South Africa) like the countries with huge potential like India ( or the subcontinent) Indonesia, DR Congo, Tanzania, Sudan before the south split. Ethiopia if it had a coastline, or Central African republic.
Keep up the great work!
@@RK-cj4oc thank you! Unfortunately probably not though. At least for the time being. Geopolitics can get well…political and it takes away some of my enjoyment. Mistakes hold more weight on these as well, which is inevitable. It can come across as biased when that wasn’t the intention.
Hello. Can you south africa be a superpower?
Absolutely !!! Argentina 🇦🇷should be the Super power .
Thanks for the link! It was good...
"there are four kinds of countries: developed countries, underdeveloped countries, Japan - nobody knows why it grows - and Argentina - nobody knows why it doesn't"
Simon Kuznets
Japan and Argentina are the world's economic development wild cards. Japan could easily have modernized only at China's pace, and Argentina could have fulfilled its economic superpower potential as this video indicates.
@@yodorob Actually, Japan had been industrializing since the Meiji restoration in 1868. By World War II it was already industrialized. This set the foundation for its fast modernization afterward.
@@valerievankerckhove9325 I should be saying that Japan could easily have Westernized or industrialized between 1868 and 1945 only at China's pace.
@@yodorob "westernized" means cultural. That, they will never fully do. "Modernized" you mean.
@@ETS186 I accept that. When saying "Westernizing", I meant as in copying Western institutions such as legal systems, not changing the culture per se.
An additional cause to argentinas failure i would add, is the constant changes in political and economical planification. Each time a new goverment arrives, it makes sure everything that was made by the previous one gets torn apart and start growing in a different direction. There are no long term plans in argentina, and while that persists, argentina wont see any major grow in any aspect.
Greetings from Argentina, love your content
you described the same about spain, no long-term projects
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VOTE LOS LIBERTARIOS WITH JAVIER MILEI!
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The issue is that most of the population is on welfare. A welfare state cannot ever become wealthy.
Socialism no longer works when you run out of other people’s money.
@@J7Handle This is the same issue we see in the US, Canada, Europe, and elsewhere when governments spend without the intention of ever paying off their debt.
I went to Patagonia in 2018 and was blown away. By far my favorite place on Earth. Buenos Aires is also, undoubtedly an amazing city. Spent 4 days there and could not get enough. Highly recommend. Great video as always!
Can you go into more details about what you liked about Patagonia?
It’s on my list! I appreciate it!
I spent a few months living in BsAs and it's really interesting. Visited Las Pampas region as well but haven't made it to Patagonia yet.
I'm an Argentinian that live in the Patagonia and I'm so glad that my region is very liked by the foreign :D
You ll always welcome on Argentina 😁
Many Koreans enjoy Tango and admire Argentinean culture. We wish Argentina endless prosperity. From Korea with Love❤❤❤
thank you brother
Thanks a lot. Korea is an amazing country. It's amazing to know many people admire our country despite our economic struggles.
thank u bro. im from argentina and i want travel to korea someday :(
Wow that's really nice actually thank you for it. If may i ask why? What make some koreans to be so lovely to us argentinians? We like Korea also but i can't say it would be a whole nation Phenomena, more like a general feeling of good intent towards asían and koreans
We Argentinians despise Asians. Stay away.
Most countries here in latino america could've been developed countries and Argentina with Brazil on top of them, but we have rampant and unchecked corruption that ends up in nothing. I always say "My country has everything, but our people ruin it".
Better if they let the Dutch have had Brazil, sure would have been better. And let Latin America for Germany/Scandinavia. They are not as corrupt as Portugese/Spanish.
México???
Corruption is the very essence of underdevelopment. The rules are not the rules and people can't even figure out who to pay off.
"My country has everything, but our people ruin it." Sounds like Philippines to me.
Sounds like the Philippines
I am from Uruguay, every time we (uruguayans) talk about to Argentina, regardless of the political view, we arrive at the same conclusion, Argentina can, and should be a Superpower
We would have been if we had remained together with you, as Artigas dreamed once.
Latim America tragedy, we all have potential, but we cannot cross the middle income trap
Argentinas economy was better under the dictatorship lol.
@@underdogtv2855 says who? If you fall from up in the sky, you are still not flying, but falling increasingly fast! Those were those times.
Maybe after the next War in Europe history will repeat and they will get another big migration.
Argentina could have been a developed country long ago, and in fact, as the video showed it was in the rigth trace many years ago. I am chilean, and my first international travel was to visit my family (uncles and cousins) with my parents when I was 15, in 1978. To me, Argentina looked like the future. These were difficult times, and harsh time due to dictatorships on both countries. Neverrheless, after we got back to democracy, Chile, with less natural resources, has surpassed our neighbourgs. I hope they return to the right trace, for such a great country and people.
Es dificil para el resto del mundo entender lo que fueron las dictaduras en Latinoamérica, y que todavía seguimos en proceso de Descolonización(que de paso, esto llevó a muchos nacionalismos extremos que empeoraron la situación)
Me alegro que te haya gustado Argentina hermano, siempre serán bienvenidos 😁
Latinoamérica unida, al igual que África, son los únicos actores que pueden cambiar el futuro horrible del que nos vienen advirtiendo todos los días xD
Te manso un abrazo che 😁
It was a developed country. Then it undeveloped.
Pinochet also liberalized Chile's economy because he listened to Milton Friedman's students. If Argentina had the same level of economic freedom as Chile they would have the same GDP per capita as Canada or the US.
Praying for the Southern Cone 🙏
Dictatorships installed by the Yankees because they can't stand competition and know they will lose therefore need to coup your country. Oh that. Lol
Australia and Argentina were almost the same level of development in the 19th century. Export focused economies aren't destined for this.
@@Gygan-YSA what is happening with population become poblation? wkwkwk
The main difference between these two countries where the level of corruption in their sociaty, that's the reason Australia is s great power in all aspects and Argentina is not.
Agrgnrtina and the Ud were basically both similar when it came to gdp per Capita but both countries went completely different path the US went f down a much greater path becoming a superpower Argentina not so much.
@@ΣτέργιοςΚοσμίδης-ψ3τ there is about the same corruption proportionally, it's worse now, but australia wasnt more or less corrupt, australia was the scion of the greatest empire in the planet, that got rich of robbing blind half the world adn just kept being that way with their common wealth, argentina had no such niceties.
@@cseijifja Argentina had exactly the shame niceties, was part of a great empire the Spanish one, the culture is only difrend. The only difference is the way of thinking between these to civilizations. Argentina inherited the spanish and Italian way of thinking, corruption and how to become rich quick and Australia inherited the British way of thinking how to prevail in the long run.
I met some Argentinians in Olympic National Park a couple days ago and they were super cool and friendly people - I’ll be rooting for Argentina in this World Cup!
Nice I met some people from Chile there, I was hiking mount Storm King.
@@blumucus I was at Crescent Lake!
They won
Only thing good at is their football ! Best in football!
@@tommyguntommy9816
CHILE ARGENTINA HOCKEY HIELO
CHILE ARGENTINA AURORA AUSTRAL
Thinking of the Argentine decline problem I had always considered that the Panama Canal had to have a very important role by killing the influence of its ports. I don't think I've seen or read more than one or two people who ever brought it up. You'd be the second or third and that depth of thought is probably what makes your content great.
Yeah, there's no reason to sail around South America, so the only way for Argentina to compete is manufacture and export stuff
Ironic, as argentinian, i went to Panamá Canal when i was 10
Correct it’s too far away from the markets. the whole Southern Hemisphere is poor in comparison except aus and NZ.
@@sc1338 I don’t know that that’s relevant tbh though . At the time Aus and NZ industrialised their markets were mostly European and North American. At the time Melbourne was the richest city in the world it nearly tied with Buenos Aires. Then Argentina had hyperinflation and Australia didn’t.
IT's not that it's "declined", it's that the "growth" in the US for the past several decades is based on fraud, deception and money printing. Yes, kinda hard to compete with that. And that goes for everywhere
I was just learning about argentina's history when the notification arrived.
Congratulations for the 100.000 subscribers.
I appreciate it!
The Argentine problem are Argentine politicians, this problem dates back to Buenos Aires Centralistas all the way back in the 19th century.
There is not only one problem.
Like any other latinamerican country, our main problem are our governorns and politicians.
@@Monki_29 you seem to forget we have often be (poorly) ruled by military men, rich oligarchs, bankers, judges, and mafia. Some of them directly, some indirectly. They are NOT politicians and popular will never reach or touch them.
@@Monki_29 Not really. Most South American countries have huge wage gaps between the rich and the poor but Argentina's used to be much smaller has a huge middle class so the income inequality is far smaller. Like the video says Argentinians tend to live better than most South Americans ana they should be better but their politicians professinal kleptocrats.
Hand in hand are the politics of those that put these people in power. This gets to the real reasons Argentina is in the doldrums. Mismanagement and political mental illnesses.
Argentina's geographical location isn't that strategical to the trade route as it's located nearly in the "end of the world", so i guess they need to maximize their potential in agricultural exports and hi-tech sector
But, as briefly mentioned in the video, before the Panama Canal was built, if anybody wanted to go from anywhere in or around the Atlantic, to anywhere in or around the Pacific, only had two choices. Go around Africa, or go around S.America. The latter of which meant you probably had to stop at some point in Argentina to re-stock with supplies. That was definitely a geographical advantage both strategically and economically.
So is Australia and New Zealand
It's not a very relevant issue in the modern world. Transport costs are cheap enough even for remote locations.
@@chendaforest but they are closer to major powers like Japan China Indonesia and India there.
@@riderchallenge4250 The distance between San Fran and Japan is a lot shorter than the distance between Buenos Aires to Japan.
My great grandfather left for Argentina in the early 1920s from Croatia or what was then Yugoslavia. Spent 25yrs there, mind you he never returned "for holidays" in the meantime. It always made me wonder if I had any Argentinian cousins and where are they. He worked on oil wells and no one knows much more about that part of his life. He lived to be 96 yrs old. What a different life and world it was a 100 years ago. But, anyway, this will for ever make me feel connected to Argentina.
Whats your surname? Both of my grandfathers (from my mom) came from Spain, and Rusia (German Volgas). Im from Argentina btw
If you feel comfortable doing a dna test it will let you know what family you have there (so long as they've also done or do the same test)
@@ceo7083 Nikšić
Just feel from afar, don't even think to come here or the feelings will turn bad. Expecting maybe more inflation than Venezuela in the upcoming months. xD
@@RicoBanani Those surnames are hard to find here becouse the people that registered inmmigrants from Europe, didn't know how to write them, for example, my grandmother's surname originally was "Thömme", when her parents joined to Argentina, they wrote it as "Domé". Hope it helps
The few times I've been to Argentina I had the time of my life. What a beautiful country and people. It amazed me how big it is and all that it has to offer. But what stood out the most in my opinion was and will always be its people. They are such funny and friendly folks, believe me. Most of the times you engage a conversation with an argentinian you will probably end up laughing your a** out 😂. This also demonstrates how resilient they are as people. Despite all the ups and downs in the economy, socially and in politics I think every other country facing what they face on a daily basis would result in massive suicides or violent turmoils, but they laugh and joke their way out of it. They wake up every morning to go to work and add their two cents in the quest of making Argentina great again. Even if they often say they are doomed or not worth being a superpower, or even arrogant, their way of living life is unique and I think we all should learn from them. Man, I love Argentina ❤ Greetings from Argentina
Cualquiera se esperaba el final jaja muy halagador era
Why is it that I hear the exact same thing for every country 🤨
@@Ana61234
LA ARGENTINA NEVADA
LA ARGENTINA EUROPEA
@@evaklum8974 cuál es el sentido de copiar y pegar esto en todos los videos?
Wishing the best future to my country Brazil and our neighbors, including Argentina 🇧🇷🤝🏻🇦🇷
não concordo com você, eu sou sempre rivais com os argentinos 🇧🇷🤜💥🇦🇷
Rivalidad entre países hermanos solo nos atrasa / A rivalidade entre países irmãos só nos atrasa
@@paranoidandroid3k você é o meu rival, rival para sempre
@@paranoidandroid3k Exactamente hermano! Estamos juntos 👊🏻🇧🇷🇦🇷🇧🇷🇦🇷✌🏻
@@joacoolcipher que mentalidade retrógrada. se os outros países da América do Sul estão indo bem, isso é bom para toda a comunidade.
The political instability, economy mismanagement and constant military juntas should’ve been mentioned, not the only causes of course, but have had a very important role in the economic stagnation of the Country.
The military juntas were good for the economy.
@@lorenzodell289 Have you read Imagining Argentina? I think @donlepardo77 has made a good point.
Political instability repels foreign investment.
@@lorenzodell289 The military juntas are true guiltys for the underdevelopment in South America. Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Uruguay really suffered socially and economically with the dictatorships.
Yeah, I was surprised he didn't even mention the Falklands War.
I remember back in the 1980's. People who traveled to Argentina had to worry about having to pay a heavy duty on bringing Personal Computers into the country. I can't imagine that policies like that make it easy to develop a good technology industry.
It's much worse than that now with the oligarchy firmly in power, they will hold electronics for 6 months and still charge the VAT! It's impossible to do things there because of the government, thus, huge black market.
@@FreedomLovin We dont produce dollars, we only obtain this comodity selling grains, (that the big producers doesnt bring to the market cause they are waiting for the Peso to devaluate). We import more than 10k million dollars in energy every year + key supplies for the industries day to day , now 5% of the national badget is destined to pay the FMI debt, our Central Bank is running out of Usa currency and you are upset cause you cant buy hardware to mine crypto or play LOL?
Getting its arse kicked by great Britain probably didn't do its international standing much good ether
@@emilianosilva8266 This is bewilderingly facetious. The same general import tax applies to hardware for most industries, including supplies for the few heavy industries that still remain. Argentina could have THE single largest automobile production market, complete with an EV battery branch, if the government wanted to. They need the tax from the materials needed to make that work, though, so instead of developing the most advanced vehicular production market in the world they'll piddle around taxing netbooks 10x times the price so their assembly lines in Tierra del Fuego can keep assembling cheap chinese shit that nobody will buy since it can't measure up to even a midrange brand computer, and is either gonna rot in storage on big box stores until it becomes ewaste or get donated as school supplies in yet another government plan.
Large companies take all their profits abroad and never invest it back in the country. Even leaving currency control out of the equation there's no way we can summon all dollars needed for industrial development. Argentina's agricultural elite is still much in in power and they're not interested a bit in the country's development. They just want their dollars out of the country and would do anything (specially meddling with politics and funding corrupt political parties) to have it their way
Argentina coulda had class. Coulda been a contender. Coulda been somebody.
but fell flat on its ass.
The “marlon Brando” of nations.
We definitly still can be somebody. Just like a Fénix.
They HAD class. They WERE a contender. They just couldn't make it work.
@@jhgeorg yeah,between 1890 and 1930, Argentina was a superpower
Isn't there some joke/saying that goes something like this: "There are four types of countries in the world, poor countries with poor geography, rich countries with rich geography, Argentina, and Japan." Meaning that Argentina is poor with rich geography and Japan is the opposite.
You can say this about dozens of countries. Corruption takes the life away from any nation that is rich in natural resources.
that ad transition was so good I couldn't tell if it was just part of the story or an actual ad.
to my argenteans brothers I understand the struggle of corruption it runs in a latin america. I wish latin america would overcome this. we could literally become top economies. I hope for a prompt and soon economical recovery. Mexico🤝 Argentina will always be brothers! thanks for giving us great football and amazing music and super friendly ppl!
A lot of people don’t understand how much the culture of a nation can make or break its success.
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@@sizzaulwtf?
Don’t forget! Landlocked European countries also tend to have access to navigable rivers (such as the Danube) which empty out into oceans and allow for greater access to international trade.
Amd if they don't they are generally in the EU and have free trade and movement with the rest of the EU so they still don't face major barriers to trading beyond their immediate neighbors.
Paraguay has access to the Parana river which is navigable to the Atlantic ocean (by paying a fee to Argentina), yet it's still very poor.
@@claudioklaus2642 3/4 men
Austria is a highly developed country, Switzerland even more so, but neither of them owe their success to access to rivers. Other factors play much more important roles.
@@dewayneblue1834 technically speaking both do have access to major rivers, the Danube is considered navigable up to Kelhiem Germany which is upstream up all of Austria (the Danube flows through Vienna), and the Rhine is Navigable up to cities of Rhinefelden (split by the German/Swiss border) and Swiss ports are clearly visible on their side of the river.
While clearly the fact they have access to major navigable rivers isn't solely responsible for their success. But it is disingenuous to imply they don't have access. (Switzerland has a navy, mainly created to prevent Germany from getting any ideas about blocking her trade along the rhine durring WW2, her only access to the world ocean not involving driving in Nazi held lands)
I, an Argentinian, literally just subscribed yesterday
And now you surprise me with this LOL
I’m happy you found the channel! I have a second video relating to Argentina coming out in the next couple of weeks, maybe sooner.
VAMOS LIBERTARIOS
VAMOS MILEI LETS MAKE ARGENTINA GREAT AGAIN!🦁
@@carlomazzi4345 cringe
Viva Cristina y viva Peron CARAJO ✌️
Its parasites like you that effect the growth of Argentina the only good thing Peronism contributed was the numerous advanced hospitals and schools and work protection for the middle class however they closed the doors to mass global trade and over protectionsit policies that eventually lead to Argentina's decline , and the ex vice President Cristina kirchner is the most corrupt pathetic witch that exists in Argentina I suggest that you dont have children since decent Argentine's dont want to go backwards with corrupt Kirchnerism your a disease that needs to be wiped out 🐀🧹💩!
A new prosperous Argentina will commence with the Libertarians!
VAMOS LIBERTARIOS
VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
@@LordMagnuss
@@LordMagnuss me pregunto cual es tu opinion en este video... Basicamente te dice que el peronismo llevo para atras nuestra economia
I spent a couple weeks there in 2010. Wonderful country. Friendly people. Best steak you'll ever eat.
The whole southern cone should’ve been a regional superpower alongside Brazil as well. As well as Mexico. Maybe Mexico would have it better if a North American union were to happen. But that wouldn’t happen. Like an all Mexico movement could’ve made Mexico more North American than just a nationality.
Probably not either. Brazil wouldn't tolerate a great power right under its belly.
@@leonardoleo5740 tolerate what?
As an American, I don't see Mexico as a friend. They almost stabbed us in the back during WWII and Mexico is stuck being a Socialist nation with all kinds of resources but the Socialist governments are paranoid that someone would want to take over that mess there. It is a shame Argentina has not ever matured into a great nation but the entire population is one big basket case.
Regional superpower is an oxymoron. Superpower is by its nature a global thing. If you are regional you are not a superpower.
What's next, a household superpower?
@@Poctyk It's a thing, but they normally reserve it to the actual international superpower with they talk about it. Like they'll say China's the regional superpower because it's a super power in the world & that region but not really because it has challengers on the same level in its region
I think that it's a bit of a stretch to say that Argentina could be a superpower, or even a major power. I would say that Argentina does have the potential, with good government, to be a prosperous middle power on par with Canada and Australia.
Russia's not even a Superpower anymore.
They'd have to get rid of a lot of non government corruption as well. As it is most of the heavy lifting is forcefully managed by both a Worker's union and a Trucker's union that keep a stranglehold on industrial production and it's neighbouring logistics. And even if these weren't around, the main agrarian cabal can singlehandedly freeze the only reliable income the country gets on a monthly basis. Point being, anyone who wants to attain and retain power with any level of governability is forced, by virtue of the balance of power within the country, to get and stay in bed with a number of bad actors that don't have the country's future prosperity in mind.
There are alternatives to all of this. Argentina has an enormous potential as a provider of digitally exported services as goods, and the few sustainable industries that have sprouted outside the more traditional markets all come from this sector.
A good topic for video !
They have v smart flag called "Albi Celeste" !
Canada and Australia are falling down
If Argentina worked on it's economic policies and stopping reaching on the verge of bankruptcy every few years, many immigrants would want to move there (and skilled people as well) and would bring lots of capital with them and help generate lots of it too.
I always think about this and bang my head against the wall because of it. We were in such a great place in 1930.
Bad news: The same can be said of Haiti and any other underdeveloped country.
La bancarrota del pais se producen "gracias" a los gobiernos de Derecha o "promercados"...q endeudan irresponsable y demencialmente al Pais como fue el caso del iltimo q hubo entre 2015 y 2019 ( Macri) q pidio mas de U$ 100000 millones en 4 años incluido el ptestamo mas grandede la HISTORIA del FMI x U$57000 millones q dejaron al pais en bancarrota y q ahora sinicamente critican deberias saber estas cosas antes de criticar sin conocer...
A 3 second google search would have told you argentina has A LOT of immigration. We're a country made of immigrants, the reason we're on the verge of bankruptcy every few years is bc the USA can't stop getting their dirty fingers involved in places nobody wants them and ruining economies to stay at the top and continue to steal our resources.
Vienen muchos inmigrantes pero a gastar sus dólares, Argentina está regalada para ellos.
Congratulations on 100K
I appreciate it!
Good video. One point tough, while it is true the agricultural elite dragged down industrialization, that part is incomplete.
The big ranching estancias were for cattle raising while most of the agricultural lands were colonized by the mass immigration waves by the late XIX century with the state giving land or selling it for cents to families and communities with the condition to settle. Most of the current center population is descendant of that. In my province there was nothing, being the 2/3rd rich one currently. Santa Fe was just 2 cities and a few travel posts, rets just millions of hectares of wild grasslands. The first agricultural colony was Colonia Esperanza settled by swiss farmers being the first to produce large scale wheat.
Before that Argentina did not have agriculture, it was just millions of cows and horses free roaming ranched by gauchos.
My town was one built in 4 years by a Italian who bought land ,brought 150 families settled and people started farming in small plots meanwhile the founder donated lands for the railroad line and station. This history is repeated all over the pampean plain.
Also by the end of the 19th century those immigrants started to create local industries, mainly for agriculture with Industrias Schneider being the first foundry in the 1870s making tilling machines and other things in my province. Like that it was around. Rapid industrialization happened where it were demand by private initiative and then heavy industries and military production with state programs and private contractors. WWI and the crack of the 29 hit hard on technology acquisition and profits. Then came political instability and state intervention with nationalization waves that broke havoc and destroyed all the progress there could be.
Extra note is that the north of the county with higher temps now produce a lot of crops too, in lands taken to natural forests which isn't that good in the long run.
My ancestors are from colonia esperanza :)
@@Yutub20 mirá las multinacionales son empresas y juegan con la la reglas que los políticos le ponen. Vos SOS una empresa, traés guita para ganar mas guita. Está perfecto, el problema es la cometa abajo de la mesa. Estamos hablando de empresas que traen plata que no hay y después le dicen no podés llevárte las ganancias, es un robo. Podemos concordar que habría que mejorar las leyes, pero son a propósito hechas por los políticos para currar. Fíjate que los peronistas les subsisdian el transporte y sueldos a las mineras y no les cobran impuestos... Arreglado por klistina.
Tranquilamente les decís exporten material procesado o industrializado y no les cobró impuestos por X tiempo, exportan en crudo, 35 de arancel.
You have to understand Agentvs, you society is not egalitarian enough. When "Globalization" hit German and South Korea rise but you country needs structural reform and it need use it water ways to for trade, then you will be unstoppable.
@@Argentvs 2015 empiezan a fugar la guita xq ven el futuro incierto y quieren asegurarsela=Super restricciones a la compra de dolar
=2018
=2020
=2022
Trabajo en el Estado y me da rabia ver como no puedo defender kas instituciones públicas como tal, muchas tienen su "Autonomía" que en la práctica no se aplica en absoluto...
@@gotija eso de fuga no existe. Cada uno hace con si guita lo que quiere. Si vos vas y llevás plata a Uruguay y la querés sacar mientras el gobierno te dice que esa guita ahora es de ellos no te gustaría mucho.
Basta de ésta pavada, por eso estamos como estamos. La plata va a dónde cada propietario quiere, nadie es nadie para decirle a nadie que hacer con lo suyo. Todos son pijas con el culo ajeno.
location is also a huge factor. trade with Asia has to go through either the Drake Passage which has some of the worst seas on earth, or the strait of magellan which is notoriously difficult to navigate. its also in a pretty isolated part of the world without many regionally strong economies to trade with
Why is it difficult to navigate? I did look at the map
@@dant5447 waters are ridiculously dangerous and unforgiving most of the year, navigating them is a death wish even with today's tehcnology, but yeah you can still make it if you try, it's just not worth it
In that sense Australia is extremely lucky because Asia is on its doorstep
@@olekatoska1901 Man. Not to mention you can get prevailing winds that can go around the world without nothing stopping it.
No it isn't a huge factor. Argentina can use Chile for West coast transport and they could use the Panama Canal. The problem with Argentina is that it was always centrally managed economy that focused on agriculture and never diversified. Argentinians are "tomorrow we work people" and expect government services to fill their needs. For example, instead of investing in more oil production and refining to lower prices, the government subsidizes gas prices. It is a lazy country with no belief in work ethic. They always pursued the policies for autarky, therefore hostile to foreigner investment. Even today, being part of Mercosur, the flimsy economic agreement does not want foreigners to come in. Despite being supposedly literate, they are illiterate in many other subjects.
The bottom line of Argentina’s decline is the Peronism movement and its overwhelming policies that continue to these days to stop Argentina’s growth
As a neighbour of the argentinians, I must say nothing more catastrophic could have happened to Argentina than Perón and his fascist (then turned socialists) ideas. And those ideas persist to this day.
His ideas weren’t socialist.
Of course they were.
@@HC-wo2tz socialist and facist are in the same bag of beliefs.
@@Chyropunk Tell me you know nothing about ideology and history without telling me you know nothing about ideology and history.
@@HC-wo2tz omg you really dont know? There is a reason to nazism being named national socialism...it is left wing together with socialism that realy is international socialism, this is why Rusia was ally to the germans in ww2 till germans tried to conquer them.
I love Geography Geek. Always holds my interest.
In trying to be like Europe they ended up as Eastern Europe.
eastern europe is far superior to western europe, the west is a failed society.
With Monroe doctrine it's hard to have a second superpower that can challenge the first. They won't let it happen.
Partially truth. One cannot blame it all on USA domination.
Dumb. The U.S. has absolutely nothing to do with Argentina’s decline. You heard it in this video. Perón, nationalized industries, corruption, social programs, printing money, hyper-inflation, protectionism. That’s all on Argentina. The U.S. had nothing to do with it unless you think the U.S. got Perón elected in the first place, somehow.
@@J7Handle unless you blame it all on Perón, which is utterly idiocy too.
Exactly! Always blame someone else for your problems. It makes you feel better.
Most things the video mentioned happened to most countries of the world, but consider Uruguay. Similar history, but different results. With fewer resources, Uruguay has nearly double the per capita GDP. Chile is another example of a country that doing pretty well, though they admittedly have better resources than Uruguay. If I'm not mistaken, they were also subject to the Monroe Doctrine, so I'm really confused by that statement.
The idea that you have to challenge the US is for power just false. It's not a zero sum game; just run your country responsibly and develop your own economy. The mythical "they" have nothing against other powers in their region (Canada, for example). In fact, I'm sure the US feels that it would be useful to have more stable trading partners in the region. But a culture of corruption, irresponsible spending, and dependency on the government (or any other group) always, always leads to downfall. Honestly, Mexico and Brazil should also be powers, but they have all had similar issues.
@@onehorsetoomany8006don't you see any pattern there? Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Colombia... all four are the largest, richest, potentially challengers to USA continental domination. So PART of the argument is true: USA meddles too much to hamper all them. But still that's NOT the only obstacle. Cuba kicked USA out and it took them long time to starting to level up their economy. And even if they can blame it on the sanctions, nobody fools himself the sanctions are not the only reason that held them back.
I went to school in Buenos Aires in the early 2000’s. I was there when they unpegged the peso to the dollar. Stores removing price tags from merchandise because the price could change by the time you checked out. You would buy milk at the Disco and not be sure the price. As an American everything became 75% cheaper basically overnight.
as an european i see argentina as a country with a lot of potential, it’s just the mentality that’s holding them back
No, it's the government that's holding them back
Which European country are you from?
I love the fact that this is the only channel in youtube that i enjoy watching the smoothest transition to a sponsor ever! haha 🥰
It’s the reason I left a dislike
100k subs congratulations
Thank you!
I know several people who backpacked through Argentina. So much to see, such diversity. Goals
Love from America to argentina. We hope you prosper indefinitely ❤❤❤❤
Argentina is very rich in sources and economical potential country, sadly due to the political and moral mistakes of their policy and leaders in past made economy of Argentina inefficient and cause serious difficulties, at my opinion. Greetings from Spain!
I absolutely loved Argentina and have thought about moving there.
Argentina is a beautiful country. I met many good people during my stay. I explored Buenos Aires without any concern for my safety (unlike my visits to California and New York). I consider Buenos Aires to be a European city with indigenous flair.
It would be wonderful if Argentinians could chart a course for market-driven prosperity without the burden of indebtedness.
Lo q no explica el video q las causas del endeudamiento SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE son los gobiernos de DERECHA q endeudan demencial e irresponsablemente al Pais dejando la deuda a los gobiernos q le preceden de corte mas Nacional Popular o de centroizquierda un enorme problema del.q es muy dificil sslir y a los q sinicamente le hechan la culpa de nuestras desgracias economicas...
Lo q no explica el video q las causas del endeudamiento SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE,SIEMPRE son los gobiernos de DERECHA q endeudan demencial e irresponsablemente al Pais dejando la deuda a los gobiernos q le preceden de corte mas Nacional Popular o de centroizquierda un enorme problema del.q es muy dificil sslir y a los q sinicamente le hechan la culpa de nuestras desgracias economicas...
@@javiermartinmehdi1914 Buéno, este gobierno de izquierda y progresista nos endeudo mas que el de derecha de Macri. Y el endeudamiento no se produce solo con el FMI o el Banco Mundial, queridos kirchneristas.
Nice video! Also super happy you’re using metric 🙏
This video is very informative about the history of Argentina. Many people today are unaware of how prosperous Argentina was from about the 1860s to the 1930s. Much of the credit for Argentina's prosperous during that era should be given to Domingo Sarmiento who served as the second president of the country in the 1860s. Sarmiento was able to unify the nation, and he also championed education. Sarmiento had spent time in the United States, and he looked at the traits and culture of the U.S.A. and concluded that the American model was a better plan for Argentina to follow compared to what he saw in Europe. To a large degree Sarmiento was the architect of a very strong Argentine economy that was based on agriculture from the 1860s thru the 1930s. This video correctly points out that the decision by Argentine leaders not to industrialize eventually caught up with the country over time and led to decline.
sarmiento was a Cipayo
@@sturman6020 Idiota, cipayo es un término utilizado solo en Argentina nadie lo entenderá fuera de este y mucho menos alguien que no sea de habla hispana.
it also was enabled by the Alberdi constitution.
Then the socialists took over and everything went to hell
Igual que la jefa de la banda
There are 4 kinds of economies:
- Those with natural resources which are generally improving,
- Those without natural resources which are generally declining,
- Japan, &
- Argentina.
Where do you put Venezuela?
@@Undaglibenglaubengloben venezuela imploded because of extreme international sanctions. (those that could be put on russia if russia wasn't relevant)
@@lvididnothingwrong1958 wow, that’s next level conspiracy theory stuff. I’d suggest to take off the tinfoil hat
@@lvididnothingwrong1958
No. Venezuela imploded 3 years before any sanction was imposed due to Maduro no longer being able to keep up Chavez's facade when the oil prices hit rock-bottom and their anti-business policies got exposed.
Inflation wouldn't be a problem if governments would support stable currencies
True
LOL inflation wouldn't be the problem if... inflation wouldn't be the problem. Don't get me started with 1992 -2002 convertibility.
It’s incredible how nobodies can understand that mass printing of money destroys a country, but not national governments. Even after Weimar, Zimbabwe, Argentina and Venezuela, people conveniently forget.
Inflation in Latin America is a structural problem. It has nothing to do with currencies.
@@tiagomd3811 it has a lot to do with stupid spending and inmense taxes
I wonder how large an impact the creation of the Panama Canal had on Argentina. Sailing around South America was the only way to get to the western United States from many different places (Basically everything west of India). Sailing around South America inevitably took you along the Argentine Coast.
That’s a good point
Im sure it hit them hard, but the actual country which was devastated by this was Chile, since it's them the ones who own the Magellan Straight and control Drake's Passage, the moment that Canal was opened it was like dropping a nuke on Austral Chile's cities and every major port city at the time all across the country which also made everyone struggle in the port logistics sector and beyond, this may be one of the various reasons of why South America is so economically close to Eastern Asia for a long time now, China specifically
The video points out the evidence that things aren't so good in Argentina and that this has been a long time in coming. However, while it points out that the initial strong start of the country had significant weaknesses, it refrains from pointing out why they failed as history moved forward, instead remarking how global and US downturns affected them and that printing money to cover debts was necessary (was it? did it ever solve anything?). That last part is the real problem. For some reason creditors never value what comes out of a printer. They want the value agreed upon. As soon as that fundamental principle is realized, then priorities for resources can be made. Otherwise, the government will think they have needs that are really wants. When an individual does this they become poor. When a government does this a nation becomes poor. That is why Argentina has failed. That is what the video doesn't point out.
Im from Argentina and I believe that another major problem is the huge class divide. When the country was formed they gave a select number of people "latifundios" which are basically enormous lands, making It so the whole country was owned by 50 people. This was the first real notisable divide but It continúes with what he can see with what you said about Peron being kicked out by the Rich people that werent Happy with the poor gaining money, because there can't be Rich without the poor. This is still present today as in a recent poll done by the goverment 50% of the population is poor.ñ, it's sad really.
Excelent video, specially for someone that isnt from the country 🩵🇦🇷
Thanks for the possitive view at the end, argentinians are hopeful people but we are also divided against ourselves into 2 types of political parties that haven´t done any good for our people. One of them likes to perpetuate poverty and the other one wants to forget about the poor. The middle class is always in the verge of going down and the rich as in every country stay rich. So we are like a mobious tape going to the beginning when we think we are progressing. Anyway, somebody said in darkness any light is a strong light so we´ll see how things go in the next presidency.
i still think it possible, remember how china was in the 80s. yeah the population's is crazy different but look at south Korea they have similar population but Argentina is more than doubled the size
China growed because of super cheap workforce, but Argentina has a better start than China had
@@deyversonlaconchadetumadre
It's not just because of cheap labour, india has much cheaper labour but it haven't grown like china. Political system and stability matters too, as well as you need government who is focused on development and growth .
@@overlordborn6131 Argentina has nothing of that
@@deyversonlaconchadetumadre Also China has been a civilization for more than a millenium.
china always has been the richest, the most powerful country for last 3000 years except last 150 years.
With this type of reasoning a lot of countries could have been superpowers: Brazil, Iran, Pakistan, India etc
Yes this idea geography is destiny is total bs
I want to see Argentina get better! Quiero ver Argentina mejora!
Buenas Minas, baratas
Were the Spanish the worst colonizers? It seems like every country they touched has ended up significantly worse off than those colonized by other European powers. Almost all of them have been rife with corruption, civil wars, military dictatorships and brutal oppression of their citizens by the conquistadors. On the other hand British colonies usually ended up transitioning into healthy democracies with strong legal systems, human & property right along with stability and they even usually maintain ties to their former colonizer voluntarily. Obviously all colonizing was bad for the locals and people were exploited and had their land taken, but it seems like they had very different impacts on the places they colonized.
I don't think so, considering the British genocided the Indians and replaced them with their own people, while the Spanish assimilated their culture and instead of killing them, they gave them rights(admittedly not so many) and reproduced with them
@@CortaxP I mean the conquistadors & Spanish did a whole lot of genocide too to be fair. It's also worth remembering that 80-90% of people were gilled by European diseases in both cases. There was definitely more immigration to colonies from Europeans in British colonies for sure though, that's a fair point. But the whole feudalist system used in spanish Colonies was exploitative and treated non-spanish as virtually slaves, they also brought in a lot of slaves to their colonies.
95% of the countries colonized by British are among the worst of world
France was bad too, Portugal lowkey too
The British look good if you count the white colonies.
India was one of the richest territories in the world, but because one of the poorest after the British squeezed them for everything they got and destroyed their manufacturing sector
2:20 "Many of the solutions (to inflation) rely on government action"
Government action is what gave us all inflation.
The word "socialism" is surprisingly absent from this video's script.
@Comrade Gaming Since 1946...always
@Comrade Gaming When did I say Marxist or communist? I said socialist. Socialism has many forms. Be at the right side of Lenin isn't to be a capitalist.
@Comrade Gaming Fascism is socialist. National socialism. Perón himself says it, it's not an invention or occurrence of mine.
As an Argentinian, I can say that the country has a really bad problem of corruption. Nestor, Cristina and macri (the last 3 president of the country [not counting Alberto, the nowadays president]) gained more money during their governments, while the country suffered.
Pero new constitution in 1945 is te mean reason of argentina economic decline. A constitution that was based on Italy fascist mussolini. In the long run, the constitution do not work and just make more poor people while the state gets more and more money
Entre las fortunas que obscenamente vienen creciendo y concentrándose a costa del trabajo ajeno, no son mayoría las de los "políticos", ni mucho menos. Es muy cierto que la corrupción de estos es necesaria para el saqueo, pero en esos casos solo son intermediarios, de aquellos poderes económicos y geopolíticos que los compraron. ¿O el FMI es un organismo argentino, por citar un ejemplo?
I remember in high school writing an essay saying that Argentina was poor because it lacked industries and services compared to developed nations, and the professor gave me a 7 saying I was mostly wrong... Years later I realized she was somewhat right. Because in reality, it was the people's mindset that made the country poor, especially when it embraces bad ideas such as communism. I mean, look at the difference between North and South Korea; it's like night and day.
And now living here in the US, I see more and more Americans slowly destroying the nation turning it into another Argentina... while politicians love it because they dream of becoming powerful with complacent voters just like in Latin America.
Look at countries like China and Sweden. It's not that simple
@@asdf3568 Nope. Sweden is not a Communist country. It is that simple. Look at Cuba, Venezuela that embraced "real" Communism. China embraced a soft approach and grew but now with the CCP and the hard ruling everything is falling apart.
@@claudioklaus2642 And neither is Argentina. My point is, that left policies are not necessarily wrong. But in Argentina they clearly were
@@asdf3568 He never said "the left".
@@larmondoflairallen4705 He didn't have to. It's in the context.
But it’s filled to the brim with Mediterranean folk who prefer lots of breaks throughout the day and don’t really like work. They love money….and those two factors create corruption. It’s doomed to a cycle of chaos with brief periods of stability.
taxation, regulations, corrupcy and socialism in every single government since 1920 made us a poor country
Curious if the American confederate states would have followed a similar pattern if they remained separate from the rest of the union.
A lot of them are relatively worse off. Mostly due to lack of industries. Texas being an exception of course.
the us south is very poor
@@dunkey7739 Relative to the rest of the United States anyway.
the South is basically a third world.
The vast amounts of corruption is by far Argentinas biggest downfall
One thing everyone forgets when they say this is how geographically isolated Argentina is from the rest of the developed world. It makes the US look like next door neighbors with Europe by comparison
Australia and New Zealand laughing in the background.
If you can't be a trade hub then you just gotta make something to trade.
@@claudioklaus2642 Australia is on the next door to Asia and having a free trade agreement with Asian countries, especially to emerging newly-industrialized nations like Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Vietnam, China, and India with addition to existing Asian Tigers like Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan. While Argentina has different stories
@@claudioklaus2642 they’re literally right by the largest shipping lanes in Asia. Argentina’s closest shipping neighbors are all third world nations. Horrible comp
@@charleskummerer Yes, but Argentina is closer to Europe and the US than Australia and NZ. So they could trade with the closer neighbors. So...
All countries in Hispanic America were once or still are kleptocracies. This embezzlement by elected officials discouraged foreign investment.
Greetings from Argentina🇦🇷♥️
I am from argentina and sudy geography. I relly like the video. My opinion is that we have never a chance of be a superpower. We dont have the Technology in the 1880-1914 period and if true that our fisical geography is very rich we dont forget that lack of iron and coal doom the industry plus we are relly far away of europe, this cause the price of transport skyrocket. Sorry my bad english.
We did could. The 1940s ruined it. Argentina had a rapid industrialization driven by private initiative with many heavy industries and military projects involving private business. It was the constant state intervention that stopped economic growth.
China and Russia didn't have industry as well
@@akhilkt China has not industry ? what are you talking about?
@@gral10 I mean in 1800s and 1914
Did you know Argentina is one of the global leaders of Nuclear technology and bio technology and that it
was the first country in the world to develop the artificial heart including fingerprint technology the first ball point pen Including
the bus for transport ,Holophonics the first cartoon animations . You see your the young generation and you have forgotten
about Argentina glorious past because of the economic hardships the country is going through and Peronism and
corrupt Kirchnerism with that corrupt pathetic witch Cristina Kirchner is to blame for what is happening in Argentina today they want to control the pueblo and keep them
struggling for their own power they dont care about the people of Argentina they don't care about you!
Argentina is a rich country converted to a poor country due to this pathetic corrupt Kirchnerist party!
The libertarians with Javier Milei are the only ones that are capable of bringing Argentina back to its former glory!
Vote for Milei in next years elections!
VAMOS LIBERTARIOS
VIVA LA LIBERTAD!🦁
6:22
Peron, that's what happend
Shoulda coulda woulda
But didn’t.
It has a lot to do with a Countries leadership.
In a parallel universe with either the same quantum state but different location in the multiverse, or the same location as us but a different quantum state, it's not "shoulda coulda woulda but didn't" but rather "something that did happen, just not in our universe".
"That ship has probably sailed"
You said it, buddy. As an Argentinian, I feel sad, but it's the truth...
I've just saw your video and i can say as an Argentinian, the problems are that politicians like to print money when instead of adjusting the treasury of the state, that's one, we have like 13 types of dollars here, and you tell me "what do you mean you have 13 types if it only exists one" well, the thing is that we have different dollars because it has different uses (and they have different values of course), as an example you have Dollar Qatar which was used for when Argentina was playing the soccer world cup (Argentinians were travelling to Qatar and they paid with dollars), and then you have more for varied uses, and second we have a lot of taxes that if you see how much they collect in reality it obstructs the economy.
It has a lot of reasons but these are the main ones i think. I believe in Milei 2023, and we're going to make a long-term plan to make the country rise again.
the problem that stopped Argentina for being a superpower are the followers of Peron, not Peron himself.
let's not forget the military governments
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And migrants from countries like Perú, Bolivia, Paraguay, Chile.
@@Laureano93 not the xenophobia
No offense. Had Brazil been settled by the English you'd have a New Australia or New Canada without the corruption and cronyism..
Any rich country with hot climate?
@@lanceseeley3929 Australia and Singapore?
@@paulfri1569 australia's population is mainly(almost entirely) in the southeast of the nation, where there's a temperate climate.
@@lanceseeley3929 Singapore?
@@paulfri1569 Singapore is obviously a rich country, due to its geographical position (a world trade port) a economic position that hasn't been made by their own population but by being a British colony in the past.
It was not because the way the spanish empire took It, they in fact work with Many tribes, letting even their already nobles keep their titles in the spanish Crown, its true that existes an uper class that controled most of the lands, but just like in any other country, but when England promote the independence of the spanish colonys, he used the burguesy that ruled in the colonys to stand against the spanish empire being supported by England, and so whith their independence the burguesy got even more power and the made the rules so they cool keep It, because remember, Spain created one of the first Human rights constitution in the world, i think its called "The laws of Burgos" in whichi they declared the so called indians as citicens of their empire havimg the same rights as spanish citicens, and yes there were slaves as well, but yeah the point is that burguesy was able to stay on power because of the way that England promoted this independence and since then, England and the US have made sure that all the spanish speaking countries, stay week so they are not a threat for the anglo-saxon sphire of influence
I think Argentina is a great place to visit , i will travel to Argentina soon for vacation hopefully this year
A bit late but amazing video and congratulations about the 100k subscribers 👏😀
Argentina could be great if they actually wanted to work. Of course the currency and politicians play a role in this but it's a perpetuating cycle. Javier Milei gives me some hope for Argentina and the world. What a great leader he would be.
Lo que si si milei entra de presidente hay que sobrevivir cueste lo que cueste por que ese si que no te va a regalar nada ni de casualidad.
Se van a beneficiar los ricos solamente. Espero que ayuden a los pobres dandoles oportunidades de trabajo.
@@sergioht8763 Que basura. Los izquierdos crean mas pobreza porque pobreza los dan mas poder. Los Kirchners y izquierdos no quieren resolver pobreza. One day you Argentines will realize that looking for government solutions to your societal dysfunction is the reason Argentina is dysfunctional.
Milei representa al sector que quiere precarizar aún más la educación y el trabajo de las mayorías, con la libertad de pagarles $ 2,50 por su esfuerzo.
Imagine a world where south america wasn't developed to be extraction colonies allowing them to develop good institutions so they could eventually become the great nations the deserve to be
One day, argentinian brothers, one day we shall be great, hopefully together, signed: Brazilian man
As an argentine, the problem was not the agricultural exportation based economy. Look at australia, best and richest country in the world and they just export high value/technology services and an agricultural and mining based economy.
The real problem are the cultural differences and the level of economic freedom. While Australia is one of the most free economies of the world Argentina is nearly comunist That in combination with high inequality, systematic extreme corruption and low levels of educations destroy a society.
excelentemente dicho Eze
Which is puzzling since Argentina seem to be the most European of the Latin American countries, even the climate is temperate like Europe.
Spanish colonial
There is no magic dirt. While geography can be advantageous, the people that occupy that dirt are the decisive factor
A 100 years ago Argentina was 85% people of European origin. It was a prosperous and advanced nation. However after 1930 Non Europeans from neighbouring countries starting to pour into Argentina. Thus Argentine started to decline, and as the European numbers declined and the non European element grew in number, the decline excelerated. Now Argentina in only 60% European origin, and that number is dropping steady. Thus Argentina is unlikely to reach high standards of living and prosperity again.
Que esperabas???. Tener eso para siempre???...
Problem with South America is they were settled by mostly the Spanish. The English were far superior at nation building and corruption isn't rife or a way of life also..
Argentina had a big trade with uk.
I believe he’s referring to the political culture and systems inherited from the English vs the Spanish.
Well the real reason is the demographics if you have a nation of moslty white people that know how to read it would be more sucesfull than a whole bunch of colonies that had the most diverse population in the globe at the time which was the 19th centiry which is latin america latin america isnt poor because of spains fault its poor becase since latin america first got independance from spain instead of uniting like the usa did they didnt unite even worse they were fighting each other so basically under spain they were united and without spaim it was total chaos and they were disunited
Ur so underated
I appreciate that!
Argentina was never close to being a Super Power they are just too isolated
We actually were.
Laughs in freedom
Im planning my trip to Argentina 🇦🇷 its just a beautiful a Country!
Argentina was a super power a long time ago...
Causes: systemic corruption, nepotism, distrust, and the biggest reason…
-> Peronism.
I used to live in the Pampas by the way.
Argentina might have bright future, as agriculture becomes ever more critical. Any country can become industrial (ok maybe not every) but only naturally gifted land/weather could become agricultural powerhouse. I think that's where future lies: food supply.
Argentina is about to be a major power again due to agriculture and the world going to hell in Europe.
Yeah? As argentine i was thinking to emigrate to Europe..
@@ceo7083 That would be a mistake. Demographics are killing all of Eurasia.
@@timothyfoutz6147 Where i live they tried to rob me 7 times in a month and stealed me from my house +1000$ plus my notebook with more than 3k projects in FL Studio. I think anything is worse than that xd.
Just wanna live in peace in a small town in Switzerland.
@@ceo7083 I feel bad that they stole from you. Hopefully you can make back what was stolen. I’m curious now, where do you live in Argentina, Rosario? Salta? I’m probably going to be moving to BA in a few years time. 😊
@@hakarmalm7756 Some small city in the province of Córdoba, it's called Villa María, it's pretty nice. Ciudad Autónoma de Buenos Aires is great tho.
Argentinas are the reason Argentina is not a super power , not even a local power
🎵Don’t cry for me Argentina🎵
I thought Argentina already 🇦🇷 was a superpower???? ⚽️ 🥅 ⚽️ ⚽️ ⚽️ gooooooooollllll!!!!
Only in football not in economy and technologies hahah
@@lemagnifique1573 at crowds/fans we are superpower too. Something is something.
well to be fair, any country could be a super power if you let it grow in peace without others interfering into its affairs...
Lesotho.
Just to point out, Argentina was not a colony, it was an integrated part of Spain. I know it can be confusing for non-Spanish speakers, but there are big differences between a conquered territory and a colonized one. Argentina was as Spanish as Barcelona or Madrid, the same laws and rights applied in both places.
To give an easy to understand example, Northern Ireland is not a colony but part of the United Kingdom.
Anyways excellent video
A colony is a country or state ruled by a foreign country
Using your logic the British empire had no colonies
@@IrishCinnsealach The Spanish Empire used the roman system, they were no colonies but integrated part of Spain itself, something similar like Canada or Australia were for the british, in essence the viceroyalties were independents contries united by the spanish crown
@@holaadios2263 oh get a grip
If they weren't colonies why did Argentina gain independence through war
Have you even heard of the Spanish American wars of independence
You claim that they were independent countries even though the result of the wars of independence saw Spain lose dominion over all their possessions in the continental Americas and retained only the islands of Cuba and Puerto Rico until 1898.
They were colonies simple as that
The definition is a country or territory ruled by a foreign country's government or emperor or monarchy
Roman provinces were colonies
And Spanish America was Spain's colony's
It doesn't help Argentina that it's on the literal end of the World making trade with other regions hard. But they do have the natural resources to be in better shape.