I preached out of a Cambridge Wide Margin KJV since 1974 (Water Buffalo leather). I lost it about 2011. Just ordered a new one in 'Split Calf Skin' tonight. The old one held up well considering, I put my sermon notes on nearly the entire New Testiment and much of the Old. 'Holiness' preachers tend to be pretty hard on bibles (it was my only bible for 37 years).....pastor Gary in Michigan
@@highwatercircutrider I lost an iPad that way once! (Although I was able to track it down using “find my” and some police officers helped me to retrieve it from the dangerous section of highway!)
This is probably the best review of the bible. I'm very happy that the bible held up well after three years of extreme use. Thanks so much! I am planning on buying this exact bible.
Pastor Matt, I just wanted to thank you for your Bible reviews and also to thank you for encouraging me to use my Bible for note taking. I have a wide margin KJV concord from Cambridge in goatskin leather which I found in the second hand section of my local Christian bookstore here in Perth, Scotland. As far as I could see it had never been used and was still in its clamshell box. Get this, it cost me only £10 and I love it. For a while, I could not bring myself to write in it as it such a beautiful Bible, but after seeing your videos on the 'Eagle' I jumped in and have never looked back. Now this Bible is full of notes and I use it everyday; for devotional reading, sermon prep and preaching. I have had it now for over a year and the great thing about it, is that it is unique; there is not another Bible quite like it as it contains my walk with the Lord over this last year, also through my last year at seminary, and due to its construction I imagine will continue to do so for many years to come. Blessings Rob
Been waiting for this review for sometime, as always a really great review, still have to start on my NKJV Goatskin WM, you’ve definitely inspired me, so will transfer some of my notes this weekend. Thanks, God bless
I know this is an old video, but something you can do for more note space is using Tomoe River paper as a "tip-in." I use the ESV "journaling" bible with the 2" note space and did this when my space ran out during an in-depth study. The paper is designed for fountain pens so it will take basically any type of ink other than alcohol-based, and is 52gsm which is basically the same weight as bible paper and therefore doesn't add "bulk" as regular paper does. The only down sides are it takes a touch longer for my Micron to dry so I have smeared it once or twice but not beyond legibility, and you have to glue it in-between the bound pages which is not as secure as if the bible was interleaved.
Thank you for the explanation and ideas on the alphabetical blank pages in the back that is always puzzled me and I wonder why they were never lined. Because I know the blank line sheets follow.. I also have a 1979 or 80 Cambridge wide margin that has wonderful spacing and font size with a dictionary and Concordance .1977 version Sometimes you see those in the 3 ring binder set up and I have one of those as well.. Continued success and blessings from mike in California
Well I went with the move to the NASB, keeping my ESV WM as well as I use both translations still. Something interesting I noticed is that though both my NASB and ESV are the current goatskin editions offered, they clearly use different paper, the print date is a year earlier on the NASB. Using the exact same pen, the ghosting/almost bleed through at times is far worse in the NASB I just bought, which is rather frustrating because of the money shelled out for it. I decided to keep going with it and not be so whiny, it's an amazing Bible still, but if you look at how the ESV one takes notes there is the minimal ghosting like yours (by the way, I use Micron 005, the smallest tip) but once again the same pen in the NASB is hands down showing through MUCH more, with blotchy spots signalling nearness to bleedthrough. I found this really interesting, and somewhat disappointing. The Bibles are the same thickness. I took pictures of a sample from each to post but can't post pictures on youtube, oh well. Thought you might find that interesting, the paper quality definitely went up when they printed the ESV. The paper also feels smoother in the ESV, and the leather is much softer to the touch than the NASB, though that will change with time and continual use. I can't notice any worse ghosting from the text itself though, thanks to line matching.
Hold a party for the 5 year crash test review--if it makes it that far. I doubt that the bible will fall apart but the margins may be all filed up and you may find yourself buying a new one. Anyway--great review! Thank you so much, i have learned so much. I would like it if you made a series of videos showing a systematic way of studying/annotating for wide margin newbies. It is a daunting task to mark up your bible if you've never done it before. You do have one 6 minute vid, but it is almost like an intro, i'm looking for something that would really go deep into details--walk us through.
I bought a Cambridge kjv concord at our local Mardels in burgundy calfskin ( think very stiff 1990’s stock) around 2003 for 95% off. I couldn’t believe it. Paid $9.65.
Matt, I enjoy your reviews and was sold on a WM by you and use my NAS one a lot! Question: I've noticed you haven't reviewed any Schuyler's - is there a qualm? haha
Wonderful Review! How exactly did you set up the word document that you taped in the back of your Bible to keep track of the chapters you read? I’m trying to create my own, but yours looks much cleaner and I cannot see it well in the video. Thanks!
Hi, I just ordered the Cambridge KJV wide margin in black calf split leather. I had concerns about how it could fall apart from use. It seems that the inside of the Bible could be subject to damage from use faster than the cover. What happens to your notes if this occurs? Can you try to repair the inside. I can appreciate your effort in taking a proactive approach to an almost certainty by using tape and getting a longer use factor.
I was literally just thinking yesterday and today "I wonder if he'll do a three year eventually" and for some reason I thought that it would be the spring, logged on here and say you posted it just a day or two after I had visited your page. I love watching these for some reason, I have the same Bible, several books have notes and underlinings but I'm always on the fence and wish I had bought it in the NASB when I did as I've come to prefer the NASB over the ESV, but they're so much money and with the markings now I suppose I'll stick with my ESV for a few years or until there are too many notes, I have other NASB WM's anyway but I've come to realize that too many Bibles is more of a curse than a blessing for me because I get too distracted of which Bible to use on any given day and become too concentrated on the ascetics of the Bible rather than focusing on the word of God. So I'm trying to mostly stick with one now so I can invest more of my thoughts and devotions into the same Bible. What a blessed problem to have I suppose.
Ptr Matt, how would you feel subjectively with the hardback edition of that? How different would be the both of them? I was given the hardback of that so I would like to know if I am missing something if I don't get that.
Hey Matthew, I just got the hardcover wide margin and I’m using G2 pens. I am noticing a “wavy” texture after I write on the pages, is this normal for the Cambridge? I want to use this hardcover as a test before i get the goatskin. Thank you
Do you recommend going with the hardcover if you've never owned a wide-margin before? Been considering adding a WM to the arsenal. I'd love to get a premium edition like the Cambridge or Crossway Heirloom, but that's a lot of money to drop on an experiment of sorts. In his review of the Cambridge ESV WM, Mark Bertrand says the hardcover is a great edition.
One thing that can be done as you wear one out is give it to a child/grandchild as a testament of faith. I realize some Bibles are super expensive so other options may be preferred. For those that are reasonably priced gifting them leaves a legacy of faith should you wish to do so. Be blessed
So, the wide margin is your daily reader? I watched your comparison to the crossway wide margin a while ago. Does one have less ghosting than the other?
I am not Matt, but I do! Orange for things such as hell, sin, and evil. Blue for Heaven and God. Purple for God's/Christ's royalty. Green for verses about resurrection (green reminds me of plants that die and come back to life), yellow for general verses, and red/pink for verses about love!
Your “Eagle” looks wonderful... I love books of any kind that are; obviously loved and used. I’m certainly no where near ly as organized as you are, but simply cannot read my Bible without pens and Bible Safe markers nearby. A pen is always in my hand... I have friends who literally cringe at the very thought of marking their Bibles...or in one case her Daily Roman Missal, as we;;... I, too have marked up my Dauly Roman Missal...and all of my Bibles. I can’t help it. My biggest problem is that I am constantly switching from one Bible to another... I have multiple copies of the NKJV...my favorite...and the ESV. I would like to use only one for an entire year... maybe mt blue goatskin Nelson NKJV Large Print Trimline... my Personal Size ESV has a 12 pt. font that I really, really love... and my Nelson LP PS is also easy to read... I love them all.... The only way to use just one, is to put a;l but one on a shelf. BTW.. I thunk knowing I am a total INFP, on the Meyers/Briggs Personality Sorter explains my inability to consistently stick with just one Bible ... Love your channel.. I always come away feeling that I have learned something ...
I've noticed from comparing 2 specific Scriptures which are Matthew 4:4(But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.) and 1 Timothy 6:5(Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.) that new versions unlike the KJV exclude from Matthew 4:4(but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God) and (from such withdraw thyself) from 1 Timothy 6:5. Do your ESV Bibles do that also Matthew Everhard?
Hello. I'm new to the world of "premium" Bibles. I'm looking for a Bible that I can pass down to my children that can just be my everyday Bible that I can take with me everywhere. I thought I had found one, but I think it is no longer in print & maybe was a special edition?? It's the Crossway Omega Thinline Reference Bible Heirloom ESV edition. There are so many great Bibles. Could you please make a recommendation?
Matthew Everhard I have never actually written in my Bible. However, I frequently highlight. I am studying the Bible more now so I would like to start writing in it some. Thanks.
I've asked my husband to get me a Bible for our anniversary so price really isn't an issue. I recently got the ESV Study Bible in trutone. That's how I learned about Crossway Bibles. It seems like a much nicer Bible than my CSB Zondervan Bibles. I also have the NIV study Bible in just the paperback. So, ESV is what I'm thinking.
I really love the text layout in this BIBLE especially in the poetry section. I hope they do the same in the KJV( KJV font and layout looks little old generation)as well. I got myself a KJV wide margin a month ago. I see that the KJV one has more pages at the back(A to Z individual pages) compared to this one.
What translation do you recommend? I have only bought spanish bibles RVR 1960. I have 2 young boys that speak more english and would like to buy them an english bible as secondary.
No se complique , la mejor versión en inglés es la King James (KJV) compre esa es la mas fiel al texto original. En español la mejor es la Reina Valera 1602 Purificada, seguida de la Reina Valera Gomez, luego la Reina Valera 1909 y por último la Reina Valera 1960, esas son las mejores.
What I can not find, Lambskin, KJV, red letter, thumb index, wide margin, and all the normal - usual items, concordance, a map or two. All in one. It is NOT made. I can not find it. So I have a 30 year old 15 dollar bible that I have had to replace the covers, IN WOOD even, with Pleather binding. But it is a roadmap of my last 30 years. So I do hold it dear. Whats the story behind goatskin? That just seems a little weird to cover a Bible in goatskin. I am an odd duck.
I have a sincere question that I want answered but I don't want to become a pain or controversial. My question is between KJV vs esv in certain text. I'm reformed KJV bible believing Christian. I'm not looking to be hateful or using information as public domain. I understand if you don't want to dialog because of KJV only people can be very hateful. I get both from modern and independent Baptist against so called Calvinism. Would like your opinion and or facts on some ideas in love not a ruckman independent Baptist hardness.
A bible like this you would want rebound when it wears out because of all the work you put into it with your note taking.
I preached out of a Cambridge Wide Margin KJV since 1974 (Water Buffalo leather). I lost it about 2011. Just ordered a new one in 'Split Calf Skin' tonight. The old one held up well considering, I put my sermon notes on nearly the entire New Testiment and much of the Old. 'Holiness' preachers tend to be pretty hard on bibles (it was my only bible for 37 years).....pastor Gary in Michigan
You lost it as in it got destroyed or it got misplaced?
I think everyone wants to know how you lost it!!
I always guessed maybe I set it on my car roof, not really sure though.
@@highwatercircutrider I lost an iPad that way once! (Although I was able to track it down using “find my” and some police officers helped me to retrieve it from the dangerous section of highway!)
these crash test vids are so satisfying man. cant wait for a clarion crash test :)
I would be very interested in a video about the symbol key you are using.
This is probably the best review of the bible. I'm very happy that the bible held up well after three years of extreme use. Thanks so much! I am planning on buying this exact bible.
Pastor Matt,
I just wanted to thank you for your Bible reviews and also to thank you for encouraging me to use my Bible for note taking. I have a wide margin KJV concord from Cambridge in goatskin leather which I found in the second hand section of my local Christian bookstore here in Perth, Scotland. As far as I could see it had never been used and was still in its clamshell box. Get this, it cost me only £10 and I love it. For a while, I could not bring myself to write in it as it such a beautiful Bible, but after seeing your videos on the 'Eagle' I jumped in and have never looked back. Now this Bible is full of notes and I use it everyday; for devotional reading, sermon prep and preaching. I have had it now for over a year and the great thing about it, is that it is unique; there is not another Bible quite like it as it contains my walk with the Lord over this last year, also through my last year at seminary, and due to its construction I imagine will continue to do so for many years to come.
Blessings
Rob
Robert Pettifer great thanks for sharing! What a story!
I just ordered one and the Esv wide margin Top grain leather.
Been waiting for this review for sometime, as always a really great review, still have to start on my NKJV Goatskin WM, you’ve definitely inspired me, so will transfer some of my notes this weekend.
Thanks,
God bless
Clinton De Abreu very kind. Thank you.
I know this is an old video, but something you can do for more note space is using Tomoe River paper as a "tip-in." I use the ESV "journaling" bible with the 2" note space and did this when my space ran out during an in-depth study. The paper is designed for fountain pens so it will take basically any type of ink other than alcohol-based, and is 52gsm which is basically the same weight as bible paper and therefore doesn't add "bulk" as regular paper does. The only down sides are it takes a touch longer for my Micron to dry so I have smeared it once or twice but not beyond legibility, and you have to glue it in-between the bound pages which is not as secure as if the bible was interleaved.
Love this review and love seeing inside, what a treasure!
Man these are great videos. I love to see used Bibles. SDG!
Thank you for the explanation and ideas on the alphabetical blank pages in the back that is always puzzled me and I wonder why they were never lined.
Because I know the blank line sheets follow..
I also have a 1979 or 80 Cambridge wide margin that has wonderful spacing and font size with a dictionary and Concordance .1977 version
Sometimes you see those in the 3 ring binder set up and I have one of those as well.. Continued success and blessings from mike in California
Well I went with the move to the NASB, keeping my ESV WM as well as I use both translations still. Something interesting I noticed is that though both my NASB and ESV are the current goatskin editions offered, they clearly use different paper, the print date is a year earlier on the NASB. Using the exact same pen, the ghosting/almost bleed through at times is far worse in the NASB I just bought, which is rather frustrating because of the money shelled out for it. I decided to keep going with it and not be so whiny, it's an amazing Bible still, but if you look at how the ESV one takes notes there is the minimal ghosting like yours (by the way, I use Micron 005, the smallest tip) but once again the same pen in the NASB is hands down showing through MUCH more, with blotchy spots signalling nearness to bleedthrough. I found this really interesting, and somewhat disappointing. The Bibles are the same thickness. I took pictures of a sample from each to post but can't post pictures on youtube, oh well. Thought you might find that interesting, the paper quality definitely went up when they printed the ESV. The paper also feels smoother in the ESV, and the leather is much softer to the touch than the NASB, though that will change with time and continual use.
I can't notice any worse ghosting from the text itself though, thanks to line matching.
Hold a party for the 5 year crash test review--if it makes it that far. I doubt that the bible will fall apart but the margins may be all filed up and you may find yourself buying a new one. Anyway--great review! Thank you so much, i have learned so much.
I would like it if you made a series of videos showing a systematic way of studying/annotating for wide margin newbies. It is a daunting task to mark up your bible if you've never done it before. You do have one 6 minute vid, but it is almost like an intro, i'm looking for something that would really go deep into details--walk us through.
the Cambridge wide margin concord has been my bible since 1/1998
I bought a Cambridge kjv concord at our local Mardels in burgundy calfskin ( think very stiff 1990’s stock) around 2003 for 95% off. I couldn’t believe it. Paid $9.65.
I really want to get one of these but not sure if the small font would satisfy me.
Matt, I enjoy your reviews and was sold on a WM by you and use my NAS one a lot! Question: I've noticed you haven't reviewed any Schuyler's - is there a qualm? haha
Adam Denny I only have one and still haven't done a review on it!
haha I think I just bought yours!
can you explain how Cambridge compare to church wide margin
So are your notes just coming from sermon prep or your personal readings as well?
Wonderful Review! How exactly did you set up the word document that you taped in the back of your Bible to keep track of the chapters you read? I’m trying to create my own, but yours looks much cleaner and I cannot see it well in the video. Thanks!
How match is this cambridge wide margin bible?
Hi, I just ordered the Cambridge KJV wide margin in black calf split leather. I had concerns about how it could fall apart from use. It seems that the inside of the Bible could be subject to damage from use faster than the cover. What happens to your notes if this occurs? Can you try to repair the inside. I can appreciate your effort in taking a proactive approach to an almost certainty by using tape and getting a longer use factor.
does your bible have the 2011 text? and do you know if they are gonna do one with the 2016 text? not that theres much difference thanks .
Great review! What is the font size of this Bible? I love wide margins - but don't want to give up a nice large font for easy reading.
It is small. Perhaps 8 point? Some complain, but that's the way they make room for those glorious margins.
Looks like you are mostly using the Pilot G2 pen here? Perhaps Pigma too. If G2 is that the fine point or extra fine?
I was literally just thinking yesterday and today "I wonder if he'll do a three year eventually" and for some reason I thought that it would be the spring, logged on here and say you posted it just a day or two after I had visited your page. I love watching these for some reason, I have the same Bible, several books have notes and underlinings but I'm always on the fence and wish I had bought it in the NASB when I did as I've come to prefer the NASB over the ESV, but they're so much money and with the markings now I suppose I'll stick with my ESV for a few years or until there are too many notes, I have other NASB WM's anyway but I've come to realize that too many Bibles is more of a curse than a blessing for me because I get too distracted of which Bible to use on any given day and become too concentrated on the ascetics of the Bible rather than focusing on the word of God. So I'm trying to mostly stick with one now so I can invest more of my thoughts and devotions into the same Bible. What a blessed problem to have I suppose.
Derek L yep Pitt minion comes up in the spring. wm in the fall.
Ptr Matt, how would you feel subjectively with the hardback edition of that? How different would be the both of them? I was given the hardback of that so I would like to know if I am missing something if I don't get that.
Hello. Do you have a video recommending travel bibles? I need a replacement church bible that is portable but with margins for notes.
Thank you.
I use KJV note takes Bible because kit has 2.5 margins. Also write small with .005 micron pens
Informative. Thanks.
Hey Matthew,
I just got the hardcover wide margin and I’m using G2 pens. I am noticing a “wavy” texture after I write on the pages, is this normal for the Cambridge? I want to use this hardcover as a test before i get the goatskin. Thank you
Could you share with us the chart please? It looks so cool. Like a dot journal tracker
Do you recommend going with the hardcover if you've never owned a wide-margin before? Been considering adding a WM to the arsenal. I'd love to get a premium edition like the Cambridge or Crossway Heirloom, but that's a lot of money to drop on an experiment of sorts. In his review of the Cambridge ESV WM, Mark Bertrand says the hardcover is a great edition.
Big prob with this bible is the tiny font
I’ve had my NASB wide margin goatskin for 7 years, have taken great care of it, and it is already falling apart.
There is a lifetime warrarenty. You can contact cambridge and they will replace it for free I think.
One thing that can be done as you wear one out is give it to a child/grandchild as a testament of faith.
I realize some Bibles are super expensive so other options may be preferred. For those that are reasonably priced gifting them leaves a legacy of faith should you wish to do so.
Be blessed
So, the wide margin is your daily reader? I watched your comparison to the crossway wide margin a while ago. Does one have less ghosting than the other?
Creationhorse eagle > crossway
Matthew Everhard Ok, thank you.
Awesome.
Do you have a system for highlighting, certain colors for specific things?
I am not Matt, but I do! Orange for things such as hell, sin, and evil. Blue for Heaven and God. Purple for God's/Christ's royalty. Green for verses about resurrection (green reminds me of plants that die and come back to life), yellow for general verses, and red/pink for verses about love!
@@shawndurham297 Awesome coloring system!
Your “Eagle” looks wonderful... I love books of any kind that are; obviously loved and used. I’m certainly no where near ly as organized as you are, but simply cannot read my Bible without pens and Bible Safe markers nearby. A pen is always in my hand...
I have friends who literally cringe at the very thought of marking their Bibles...or in one case her Daily Roman Missal, as we;;... I, too have marked up my Dauly Roman Missal...and all of my Bibles. I can’t help it.
My biggest problem is that I am constantly switching from one Bible to another... I have multiple copies of the NKJV...my favorite...and the ESV. I would like to use only one for an entire year... maybe mt blue goatskin Nelson NKJV Large Print Trimline... my Personal Size ESV has a 12 pt. font that I really, really love... and my Nelson LP PS is also easy to read... I love them all.... The only way to use just one, is to put a;l but one on a shelf.
BTW.. I thunk knowing I am a total INFP, on the Meyers/Briggs Personality Sorter explains my inability to consistently stick with just one Bible ...
Love your channel.. I always come away feeling that I have learned something ...
Is there a burgundy red cambridge in goat skin, or is it all black?
I've noticed from comparing 2 specific Scriptures which are Matthew 4:4(But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.) and 1 Timothy 6:5(Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.) that new versions unlike the KJV exclude from Matthew 4:4(but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God) and (from such withdraw thyself) from 1 Timothy 6:5. Do your ESV Bibles do that also Matthew Everhard?
Dustin Granger Matt 4:4 yes; 1 Tim 6:5 no.
Dustin, the ESV is an accurate translation from manuscripts that exibit excessive ommisions compared to the Textus Receptus.
Hey, what are the highlighted tabs that are in your bible? Where did you get them? Thanks!
D Traxinger regular 3m sticky tabs! Huge fan.
Matthew Everhard Thank you so much, every time I would try to look them up I would get the index tabs with the books. Thanks again!
Hello. I'm new to the world of "premium" Bibles. I'm looking for a Bible that I can pass down to my children that can just be my everyday Bible that I can take with me everywhere. I thought I had found one, but I think it is no longer in print & maybe was a special edition?? It's the Crossway Omega Thinline Reference Bible Heirloom ESV edition. There are so many great Bibles. Could you please make a recommendation?
Annie Sea something you can write in or just read?
Matthew Everhard I have never actually written in my Bible. However, I frequently highlight. I am studying the Bible more now so I would like to start writing in it some. Thanks.
Annie Sea and what is your preferred translation and price range?
I've asked my husband to get me a Bible for our anniversary so price really isn't an issue. I recently got the ESV Study Bible in trutone. That's how I learned about Crossway Bibles. It seems like a much nicer Bible than my CSB Zondervan Bibles. I also have the NIV study Bible in just the paperback. So, ESV is what I'm thinking.
Annie Sea then I would consider the Crossway Heirloom Large Print also known as the Omega. See my review on that Bible.
I really love the text layout in this BIBLE especially in the poetry section. I hope they do the same in the KJV( KJV font and layout looks little old generation)as well. I got myself a KJV wide margin a month ago. I see that the KJV one has more pages at the back(A to Z individual pages) compared to this one.
Is this a good life time bible for me ? I want a wide margin NKJV is this the best life time bible to buy?
What translation do you recommend? I have only bought spanish bibles RVR 1960. I have 2 young boys that speak more english and would like to buy them an english bible as secondary.
Teenage aged:
CSB or NIV
No se complique , la mejor versión en inglés es la King James (KJV) compre esa es la mas fiel al texto original.
En español la mejor es la Reina Valera 1602 Purificada, seguida de la Reina Valera Gomez, luego la Reina Valera 1909 y por último la Reina Valera 1960, esas son las mejores.
Looks like it could use some leather Honey .. it is a conditioner for leather .. @ amazon ...
Can you send me a bible esv already written. I can't afford one
ESV...No thanks. Is there a NKJV?
There is.
What I can not find, Lambskin, KJV, red letter, thumb index, wide margin, and all the normal - usual items, concordance, a map or two. All in one. It is NOT made. I can not find it. So I have a 30 year old 15 dollar bible that I have had to replace the covers, IN WOOD even, with Pleather binding. But it is a roadmap of my last 30 years. So I do hold it dear.
Whats the story behind goatskin? That just seems a little weird to cover a Bible in goatskin. I am an odd duck.
If goatskin is ok for the Tabernacle I'm sure it's good for Bible covers too. See Exodus 25
there is my dream bible !!!!! one day .
If you ever want to get rid of this bible, I will love to have a bible with your notes all over it! 😀
Is this Bible In Spanish ?
No existe en español amigo
If it's not a KJV, it's NOT the word of God.
🗑️
I have a sincere question that I want answered but I don't want to become a pain or controversial. My question is between KJV vs esv in certain text. I'm reformed KJV bible believing Christian. I'm not looking to be hateful or using information as public domain. I understand if you don't want to dialog because of KJV only people can be very hateful. I get both from modern and independent Baptist against so called Calvinism. Would like your opinion and or facts on some ideas in love not a ruckman independent Baptist hardness.
Jesus loves you! He died on the cross for you. Please don’t take chances with your soul.
Romans 10:9 KJV
Burn it... and get a KJV