Are You Happy At Work? Dublin City, Ireland 1982
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2022
- Would you give up work and stay at home with unemployment benefit to match your earnings?
With unemployment on the rise, ‘In Context’ looks at how a person’s employment status affects self-esteem and dignity.
Marian Finucane takes to the streets of Dublin to find out what people think about their jobs. People are asked if they would prefer to earn the same money to stay at home or go to work. Opinions are mixed. While some would like to continue working, others do not enjoy their employment at all and only do it for the money.
If you got the same money for staying at home full-time, which would you opt for?
One man who has recently become unemployed says he is getting the same money on the dole as he was for working. He says that the problem is that many jobs are low paid.
A woman says she would opt to work as employment provides discipline and a certain amount of independence.
You feel that you’re actually doing something rather than being tied to child minding and housework.
This episode of ‘In Context’ was broadcast on 6 June 1982. The presenter is Marian Finucane. 
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`''Stuck at home with nothing to do'' is a response I still hear today, especially from older co workers, and it's depressing that they equate not working with not doing anything. They have no interests or hobbies or even the urge to spend time with friends and family. There's a million things I wish I could fill my life doing that I cant because work takes my time, and energy. And its not just things for me, I'd love to volunteer, help others etc but I cant, because I'm at work. And before you say we all have a choice where we work and what we do and so on, please be honest with yourself, how much of society honestly gets to choose what we do with our lives. It's also not about getting things for free either. I have no issue earning my way but my job doesn't account for productivity, most jobs dont. I bet most of us at this stage could get a weeks work done in half, but greed wont allow us be paid for effort spent not time sat in a chair. Your employer pays to waste your time and believes he gets value in that. Your boss wouldnt leave the heating and lights on all weekend, but is okay wasting your life and energy to be somewhere for 40 hours when most jobs take far less time to do. Until we move past greed, we're all just be a bunch of cows in a field, happy to be someone elses meal.
I'm not a cow that's a load of bull
Absolutely. People can imagine a better job (more pay) or a different set of responsibilities but time "off" is a holiday and after a while you'd want to be getting back to work. I think that attitude of "what else would I do?!" is a consequence of the times we live in though. It's an idea that needs be taken seriously and opposed but I don't think the people saying it are, necessarily, the enemy of a post-work ideal, it's just a genuinely difficult thing to imagine.
@@MichaelFlanagan I agree with you about people having a hard time imagining, but i still find it bizarre. Like someone will look at you with a striaght face and not understand why you aren't going on holidays with your time off, as if existing for you isn't enough. It's like a cult. I have a week off soon, I'm not going anywhere, the purpose of that time is for it to be mine, I'll either do something or I wont, I don't need to fill it with anything because my existence isn't only in context to my work life. I'm on this planet for only one thing, we all are, and that's to live. And while you're right about how people arent the enemy of a post work ideal, the unfortunate truth is that we'll only get there with everyone involved. Think of all the work laws in place to stop employers basically owning you. Change is never going to come from that side of society. And I have no ill will against those with the attitude of "what else would I do?!", my heart actually breaks for them. I have a manager who talks so much about how he's looking forward to retirement so he can get to do all the things he enjoys or hasn't yet got a chance to. Isn't it crazy he's waiting till the end of his life to start living?
Thanks for your reply.
Its why the shovel was invented. The shovel was invented to make the work last longer
If we are cows in a field, would the farmer have some good fences in place to keep us there? How can you get human cattle to stay where you want them to?
I love how nobody mentions they would need work for their “mental health” it just wasn’t a phrase used back then but it was basically what they were getting at
interesting observation
Good observation, only thing that's changed now is we talk about mental health, we actually seldom do anything about it and expect the vast majority to plough on regardless.
There is little talk of the systems effect on the peoples mental health, it can't be relentless brutal austerity and capitalism that has given rise to the current crisis in mental health and in case it is we will talk the talk but most definitely not walk the walk . I believe there to be a direct correlation between rising negative mental health statistics and an increasingly soulless and harsh set of economic and societal norms that people often feel helpless to combat when forced to operate their lives via them.
I'd love to see an honest breakdown at present of those on the dole since Covid and Furlough, I work in an industry that was typically long hours - low wage and employees needed the extra boost of customer tips to have any sort of decent wage. It's now increasingly hard to get staff, I wonder how many people have decided to withdraw their labour as opposed to the narrative that says " they don't want to work ", perhaps it's a case of " why should I work my ass off for a pittance when I can stay at home and survive on just a little less and see my family and occasionally do something I like "?
Like everything else in todays age. A load of balls.
Sitting at home with money and sitting at home with no money is to completely different things
I’d leave work in a heart beat ..
walk my dog , play golf , see my family , visit museums. Travel ..eat out , learn recipes at home , learn a language..
My god why do people think they need work to fill there week ..
It's how many define themselves unfortunately
I define mysef
I once had a job in a factory cleaning exhaust pipes before they were finished. So I picked them up cleaned them with a solvent and put them down, it was mind numbingly boring. It was also incredible noisy and people would bang hammers down next to each other just to see if you reacted. It was also in winter so I went to work in the dark and it was dark when I went home. I got out and went to work as a life guard in a swimming pool. That too was boring but very occasionally you had to jump in and drag someone out. I felt for the people who worked in the factory. Those jobs erode your thirst for life - its as if part of you dies.
It has to die to sustain working there
Is what it is most people there job does that to them. Very few do something they actually like or wanna do. Regardless how boring it is you gotta do it to survive for most of us anyway that's the way life is
@@jimmyridd4750 I agree, but some jobs and environments are particularly bad.
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The world before mobile phones , people gave you their attention and didn’t know what a selfie was 😌
I often enjoy the comments as much as the videos. Your phrasing is unique. I'm just an ignorant American (with Irish blood in the lineage). We have all the same problems here as you speak of.
Nothing like good Irish blood to make you a hard worker though mind you I work with a few that were lazy but mostly we are hard workers.
1982 the year of Boys From The Blackstuff. Different city but similar to what I saw in Dublin then. My mates in school had Das as heroes who always came up with enough money for Christmas.
I worked in the area of special needs and I loved going to work every day.
The smartest answer would be to take the stay-at-home money but also work on the side if you wanted to. You could potentially make at least twice as much money. I don’t understand people wedded to work unless they’re making good cash. Doesn’t matter if you earn it or scam it.
We used to work on the land to produce food. We used to make things from natural materials, everyday items that we all needed. Then came industrialization, and we all know the rest. Now we live in a world full of plastic, electronics, and concrete.
I always liked to work very busy for a few weeks until I'd get sick of it then pack it in. Get low on money again after a few weeks and start all over again. I somehow cleared two mortgages and bought a house outright while carrying on like that. Not always on good work either. Never live above your means is the key.
In the 1980's you were lucky to have a job - half the country were immigrating.
Charlie Haughy was buying Charvet shirts while Bertie and P Flynn looked after the moral compass of Fianna Fail.
It was a great time to be a city planner!!!
Oh you're an old soul and you are good you remember
Wow
Half the country was immigrating in the mid 80’s and it was a coalition government of Fine Gael and the Labour Party led by Garret FitzGerald as Taoiseach in power when I immigrated.
How Ireland has changed nice to so many ethnic Irish people
What does ethnically Irish mean to you? You would find many of these people have Anglo, and Norman and Norse heritage, especially in the east of the country. Surnames are a giveaway I.e. Fitzgerald, Fitzpatrick are Norman surnames. And the celts, which many Irish associate with themselves are thought to have taken the land from the ancient Irish (evidence suggests the ancient Irish had dark skin and blue eyes.) after migrating from central Europe to the Island. Irish people are people who came to this island and assimilate to the culture of the island. At what point does someone become "ethnically Irish?"
Going out to spend 8 hours a day to make your boss richer and hand over tax without question to people in suits who take a salary 10 times what you earn, and all for what? So you can pay for a house that is left empty most of the time because you are going out to spend 8 hours a day........ And so on
What is your suggestion? Sit around the house collecting bum dole money??
Well said.
And that’s with a bit of luck
@@stevenb427 why do you discriminate against people in wheelchairs calling them dole bums? It's not their fault
Well if you bought a house in the early 80s for 22000euros it is probably worth 350000 now and in Dublin a way more where as rent is 2200 a month approx for the same house so the alternative is to get on a list for social housing and sponge off your fellow citizens forever having your paw out looking for the nanny state to rescue you ,its not about resenting making your employer richer that mindset is about total lack of ambition and negativity "As a man thinketh he becometh" that's why I am totally against social housing I am all for helping the working poor achieve home ownership but these dossers that never work and are given council houses should be put out on the side of the road .There you go just my heartfelt opinion.
The folk back in 1982 seemed very articulate.
Especially when you consider that being on camera was a much bigger deal back then.
They read books?
alot of my Uncles had labourer type of jobs but they always had one passion which was high culture. One Uncle for example was a bin man but loved Wagner. Christian brothers education. I have a great life but today's world is rubbish compared to what I experienced in the 1980s as a kid.
@@randyborstol2491 so very true. I really suspect that the Internet has eroded the ability of people to concentrate, it is particularly noticeable in people born after 1995. That, along with the fear that teachers have of disciplining their pupils, has left us with a stupid and dumbed society.
0:33 .. is that Agnetha from ABBA?
This was before play station and snap chat!
that blonde lady at 33 seconds is beautiful
@@HydraulicJack check one out yourself, you need to see one!
Yes didn’t she go on after this to have a successful career advertising for Dulux?
@@murpho999 more likely Vogue than Dulux.
She would be quite an old woman now
Keep it in your pants
I love these lads. Use grow up with men like this - Uncles mainly who looked, talked and dressed like that. They would give you their last penny.
The lad with the tash probably had women all over him. Classic RTE - The interviewer was upper crust out on the street with the great unwashed -could almost imagine her saying 'Do you like lattes?' 'Wha?'
Work is the scourge of the drinking class .
I love doing nothing at home.
I didn't like doing nothing at work but l was forced into it.
Then when they had me working from home doing nothing I knew it was time to retire.
Finally Finally iv Finally found out what Mcsavsge did before he got old and opened a pub and turned into the Bull Mick..its definitely him at the start
Is that Marion Finucane doing the interview ?
Yes, she was an excellent interviewer. RIP
@@ruth4137 And a great woman for pushing diversity and multiculturalism -- minority status awaits the Irish in the next few decades unless there is a change in immigration policy.
@@peacefuldays150 kebabs are going to be great though. As long as people use the slur 'racist' to silence Irish people then Ireland and the West in general is going to the grave.
0:34 what a beautiful irish woman
Walking dogs, and visit relatives (that are busy at work) aside. When you work, you do discipline yourself in another way, that has value. Also the last lady was right: Independence. But, yes work is not all.
the lady was attractive. she would want to be out and about working for the attention. My Dad use moan that back in the day when women got married - they had to leave the workforce. Back in the 50s so you were stuck at work with all the ugly women lol
Errol Flynn at 1:10
Mr Bean at 1.40 behind the 2 lads I swear 🤣
If I did not have to work long days and a large part of each night, 7 days a week and 368 days each year (almost as much as the fab, the Beatles) with only 1 holiday in 39 years and yet get paid then I would spend all this time sailing the 7 seas, climbing up tall mountains, walking across deserts, fishing in the deep blue seas, swimming in lakes and rivers, talking to my Neighbours, seeing hello to strangers as I walked by, listening to the great rock music of Thin Lizzy, Rory Gallagher, Van Morison, Bob Dyland,CCR Django Reinhardt and other great music, I would try following in the footsteps of Jesus, I will try to do good and help out others, try my best to be a good and caring human being, I would give a helping hand, I would give my advice for what it is worth.
I love how everybody in the background is fascinated by the camera! Nowadays nobody cares in the slightest.
Thinking the same about these older recordings, also when you see kids gathering :) /the tech of the day, and a massive culture change happend
Surprising that the gentleman that was "on the dole" didn't simply get a job in RTE.
1:08 young robert shaw
82 as bleek as they come. The 80s were the worst time's in Ireland. The country was on its knee's. No Job's , high Emigration city Dereliction on top of the mess we had with the Drugs problems. Mainly Heroine was the scurge. HIV Aids and hepatitis we're the diseases, the fallout we're death's like we hadn't seen before. A really sad time in all our communities. Our city was picturesque outside the city, untill you hit the Naas Road. You then started to see the real Dublin how run down it was. Our systems was from the century before and the people running them were also from that century . What a mess we were. Only voice's from politicians, Tony Gregory, Christy Burke, the rest were locals community Activist Se'ani lamb south side the same. Some Republics all local boys and girls. Mad bad and rough times the horrible 80s.✌🏻☘️✌🏽
0:33 Fatal Attraction Glenn Close look alike.
I do prefer working. I've a decent job (dickheads at it though but I suppose thats part of it) and it gives me something to do or a reason to get up in the morning. After the lockdown I was going off my head I had to do something. Now I do feel your social life is ruined but since I'm off on weekends I can get that benefit at least.
I feel terrible for people who say they wouldn't want to be "stuck at home", they must literally be absent any imagination. The last women would rather be a servant to a stranger than look after her own kids, the slave mentality is engrained in so many.
Couldn't agree more
All about balance I think
I guess you’ll never appreciate how tempting it is for a ground-down mother to want to put a pillow over the face of a sleeping child, and how common that frustration is. Motherhood nearly killed my mother. Being a mother IS sometimes like being a servant to a stranger, as you’d probably know if there are women in your life who feel comfortable enough to tell you the truth. Understanding THAT takes imagination.
@@markofsaltburn Since I've spent years looking after my own kid with little to no money of my own and no thanks or appreciation, I suppose I'd have no idea how that feels. Unfortunate personal circumstances are rife you condescending prick.
I also grew up in my granny's house, who was forced to leave her job by law to look after her kids and was very bitter about it, rightly so in fairness. I was raised by a single Mom who spent all of her time at work, so I don't need an imagination in this regard.
0:35
1:30 stay home and let their mammys (wives) keep them 😅 🙄
Get the money to stay at home and work on the sly 😂
40 years later we all work from home; scandalous
The definition of poverty working 💪
I wonder what that guy would have go say about all the dole scroungers these days or indeed the large number of foreign nationals that are collecting benefits.
Dole scroungers? Is that the way you view people with disabilities who can't work?
Unemployment in Ireland in April 2022 was 4.8%. In 1982 it hit 20%. How did the young people of Ireland respond to that? They came to my country and worked on the black while I was paying taxes or signed on here instead. Not that I blame them, to be honest.
@@thehairysnot8069 This is a great channel but it always seems to attract comments from racist fuckwits.
Not sure why!
@@thehairysnot8069 Exactly ! These self-righteous specimens that voice opinions of those less fortunate than they are . not a jot they seem to care off the legalised corruption perpetrated by those in government / COVER UP MEANT who PURPORT to care for MAN/WOMAN and country while lining their own silk purse , SLAVERY NEVER ENDED , THEY CHANGED THE NAMES , MASTERS EMPLOYERS , SLAVES EMPLOYEES , THE WHIP WAGES ..
No I'm referring to a particular type of person the 3rd or 4th generation of families sitting on their arses and expecting everything to be handed to them.