He isn't the best father either, sadly! I can't recall many scenes where he's actually there for his daughters, though I suppose as a leader, he's busy. I appreciate the relationship he has with Sandstorm, but it is pretty weird that in Warriors, most of the cats will choose their first love in the end over the second love, regardless of how much time they spend together. At least they kind of amended that in the most recent books where Graystripe seems to "choose" Millie, to Silverstream's delight (despite the latter encouraging him to move on in the past). TL;DR: Warriors REALLY needs to learn how to portray healthy relationships with the main characters.
I do find that many of the protagonist of this series don't have the best track record as being parents; but I also just chalk that up to just the later book's issue of not balancing out the attention given to former and newer protagonists. That and older protagonists not making the best parenting decisions is done purely for plot convivence, since otherwise a lot of plots in the series would be resolved way more quickly. But yeah otherwise I just assumed that Firestar was a good father to his daughters off screen.
Wait wait wait, graystripe chooses millie? /pos, I haven't been keeping up with the books at all and I always read online that the Erin's "said that graystripe would choose Silverstream in startclan", so if it's not much trouble could you please elaborate? If it is true that graystripe chooses millie, that's so exciting and gives me hope for the future of warriors
@@Marquarida He does actually choose Mil! Silverstream is jealous despite encouraging their relationship in the past, and on top of that, Crowfeather visits Starclan and chooses Leafpool, which Feathertail is also jealous about. So, yeah, Millie keeps her mate, but it's still bad how the Erins retcon Silverstream being supportive of that relationship because apparently women have to be pitted against each other.
Perfect song for Firestar! For all the story time we get with the Spottedleaf and Sandstorm drama we really don't get a satisfying closure to the whole thing in Firestar's quest. Even though Firestar and Sandstorm functioned fine as mates (as far as warriors is concerned lmao) it's still kind of weird that Firestar keeps lingering feelings for Spottedleaf. I kinda wish there was better closure in the books, but this PMV captures the conflicted feelings I had with the whole arc perfectly! Nice job
@@thisisthegayberhood5879 well, maybe if they were written better and Sandstorm wasn't in the way(also, their age gap, but I guess that's too much for Warriors' standards)
@@Spottedleaf_Deservedbetterthat was confirmed just to be just a made up headcanon. If you look on sandstorms wiki she has no biological parents put in lol
i always found firesand strange, especially for warriors standards. it always seemed like sandstorm was way more into firestar than visa versa, as he often spent more time thinking about spottedleaf, graystripe, etc. it almost feels like he settled. personally i believe he never moved on from spottedleaf, and the fact she was killed in the dark forest battle so firestar "wouldn't have to choose" according to the erins confirms that for me. i absolutely adore this take on the relationship, as well as the incredibly nostalgic art and cute designs! fantastic work i'm always so happy to see you in my feed!
I agree with you, and also the fact Spottedleaf was three times his senior, you can say theyre just cats but yknow.. they are treated like humans thus its really fuckin weird that Spottedleaf was Firestar's actual love and this series is supposed to be for children
@@sparrow_moon1110 yes i totally agree with that point as well. the relationship between them is not at all appropriate, and i don't like the ship either although i find the dynamic fascinating from a writing/character study aspect. i feel like for a genuinely good relationship they should've been around the same age, with spottedleaf being an apprentice when firepaw joined the clans. the erins have done age gaps like this multiple times like feathertail x crowpaw for example which also came off as a red flag. its sad because the ships could be very interesting if it wasn't for the freakishly inappropriate age gaps. however this is typical for warriors as they have many very good ideas botched with poor execution or just general obscenity that discredits the merit of it :(
@caliandthepack What would Warriors look like if it was rewritten by the fans? We know what they did wrong, and we can remendy the mistakes the Erins made, fix the really shitty writing Speficially with Abusive relationships, or ones that have giant age gaps like this
@caliandthepack The Tribe is more independent and doesn't need Clan intervention half the fucking time StarClan isn't shitty The Dark Forest is where all bad cats go, ALL, not just "oh you did it for love you belong in StarClan" shit that was going on Redemption is possible No forced bad relationships (imagine if StarClan said that Squirlf and Bramble need to stay Apart and Bramble was not meant to be deputy, and Brackenfur became deputy instead)
yes yes YES I FEEL SO BAD FOR SANDSTORM I always found it strange and creepy that firestar, even after many years, was in love with a DEAD cat who was literally an adult woman when he was still like A KID??? and I didn't understand spottedleafs motivation to visit firestar in dreams if she knew that sandstorm was jealous😐 i hate this spottedfire shit asf and i don't understand people who blame sandstorm for her RIGHTFULLY jealousy and anger upd dude i like your style and char designs LIKE AISHOSBSJSK AND THE PERFECT MUSIC CHOISE
sandstorm is a good character and I like firestar and sandstorm spottedleafs is also a good character she doesn’t do anything wrong so the age ..they’re cat they’re not humans Spottedleaf is firestar first love firestar just can’t forget her She often appears in fireheart's dreams, delivering prophecies and guiding him She would never give up her duties as a witch doctor, as she dedicated herself wholeheartedly to healing I also angry at the people who said spottedleafs should be firestar mate but I love spottedleafs this character
I feel quite bad for Sandstorm because she was always there for Firestar when he needed her *and* also when he didn't. Sandstorm deserves someone that has the same feelings for her and even though Firestar does love her, he just doesn't love her in the same way.
your style and designs give me some major nostalgia somehow. This is beautiful! But it also touches on a very good point. Firestar's obsession with Spottedleaf made no senseee
Very nice video and the song fits really well! Yeah I have complex feelings about Firestar and his desire for Spottedleaf. On one hand it adds a interesting complexity to his character which I do find fascinating and I do also see as to why he does still have feelings for her (she was his first crush that got traumatically and suddenly killed, she then became his spirt guide who helped him through his most trying times and she flirted right back at him). But on the other hand every time it keeps coming up I'm like, "Oh no not this crap again. We really not get over this, can we?" And hearing they had to kill off Spottedleaf just so he would not be forced to choose, my immediate reaction was "For f***'s sake, really?". While it is not the biggest reason why, I do think this is an aspect of him as to why he has such a mixed reception among fans, and since his my fav character in the series it saddens me. But my biggest issue of course is that it feels like it is doing Sandstorm dirty. She is such a underrated character and she does not deserve this constant jerking around.
When i first heard the song "Glimpses of us" I TOTALLY IMAGINED FIRESTAR AND HIS WHOLE "I LOVE SPOTTED LEAF BUT SHES DED AND NOW SO SAND STORM IS MY LOVE BUT I STILL MISS SPOTTED LEAF AGHHH"
It's thanks to this video that I got back into WC when I needed it the most, so a huge thank you for that 🙏 I'm a fan of your drawing style, this PMV is a pure marvel. I don't know if it's frowned upon to ask for this kind of thing haha, but here's a suggestion (fingers crossed): if you like Sofia Camara's new song "Starlight", the chorus lends itself well to a Spottedleaf/Firestar PMV 🙈
This is really beautiful! Rare to see this relationship dynamic in this way. It's always inspiring to see someone create something beautiful through their pain.
It was great! But in reality, even though Firestar loves Spottedleaf, he will always love Sandstrom much more than he ever loved the pretty tortoiseshell. Great art, though!
I have no idea if someone has pointed this out, it was either intentional, or a good accident. The moment when Sandstorm is about to touch noses with Firestar, when it fades to Spottedleaf, she is actually touching noses with him. Like the visualisation of her being closer to his heart than his wife. It is so good I literally want to grab a knife and fork and eat all this up!
⚠️ Spoiler warning ⚠️ Little did he know…. That poor fire star would never get to spend his afterlife with spottedleaf I feel that she kinda stupidly gave up her afterlife to save sandstorm’s life, I mean she would have gone to StarClan any way, maybe a heat of the moment decision
It never seemed right to me that Firestar would constantly think of Spottedleaf. All she would ever do was visit him in his dreams and flirt with Firestar well knowing that he has a mate, and don't even get me started on the prophecies... it's like she comes to Firestar in his most desperate and miserable times and gives him this brand new prophecy for him to try and understand, she can't just get her shit together and tell him what it means, and with him desperately asking her what she means, she just fades away. I honestly feel so bad for Sandstorm, she never deserved any of this bullshit. I've always despised Spottedfire, I do think part of what Firestar is doing to handle this is pretty wrong too, I could go over the bad things he has done in this situation but I don't feel like writing that. Anyways, I really like his character otherwise, and especially Sandstorm, she's one of my favorite characters. But this is a great PMV I like your art style
I can also relate to Firestar in this as well. I'm sorry you are in a lot of pain currently. I hope everything gets better. You can make it through this!!
This is the saddest. Freaking. Thing. EVER! It really does make you see further into the depths of Firestar's relationship, in such a terrific way... AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love spottedleaf x Firestar, but I feel like Sandstorm deserves so much better than Firestar. I get that he was still grieving for his crush, but he needs to be there for his wife!
If Spottedleaf is so great (according to the books), then why doesn't she refuse Firestar's love for her 🤨 (Amazing art btw! I love the simple designs, they're a great refresher compared to a lot of insanity I see gjwnfma)
Hello! Amazing Video, and quick question Can I use the same audio and characters to make a similar PMV? Definitely no tracing though! Just same audio and characters!
hmmm....i know it's been a while since my account was lost and i need to tell you new this pmv is my favorite so far since its release i saw it 2 hours after it was released and i really love it your work was really worth it ,and you are still my biggest inspiration ;)
ho is this real? I see perfection! i prefer fire and spotted than fire and sand i love this pmv it's in my heart and the music is very well placed thanks for working hard on this it was really worth it!
Yeah no one really talks about how firestar was still lusting over spottedleaf and I bet if the role where reversed and fire was girl and spotted and sand where boys the fandom would have firestars head on a pitch fork
@@yay29823 They're right. This fandom is f*cked dealing with female characters. Look at the fact Appledusk stans exist, acting like Mapleshade was canonically a possessive, abusive bitch *before exile, before murder. I'm not calling her innocent after her murder spree.* Look at the fandom portraying Frecklewish as some "poor constantly crying baby girl" who is always needing support and breaking down sobbing, playing along with the old trope that "women can't be aggressive" (Like she is in the book.) Or the "women need to be saved" trope. Look at people treating Dovewing and Squirrelflight like they're seductive and use male characters who like them just because Bumblestripe and Ashfur were both petty little shits. Look at people blaming Sparkpelt and Palebird for having Post Partum Depression completely out of their control. Look at people blaming Spottedpaw for Thistleclaw preying on her. Look at the fact *Ferncloud was, confirmed by the Erins, canonically only killed because people were complaining that she was "only there to have babies."* That is fucking *DISGUSTING.* I will never get over this. Look at people blaming Twigbranch for being uncomfortable at the idea of having children just because Finleap was a complete bitch about it. Look at people completely disregarding Bramblestar being canonically abusive toward Squirrelflight because she was spunky as a child and did what Starclan told her to do. The fandom screams about the misogyny infecting the books, but many things the fandom itself says are rooted in misogyny. This fandom's a goddamn mess.
Spottedleaf and Firestar is kinda creepy they give me student x teacher vibes 🥶 Tbh though I don’t like Sandstorm and Firestar either, Sandstorm literally bullied him and it was so random how she just liked him after he saved her 😐
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@@ratdoodles4370 Nah, you didn't seem rude. It just seemed like you didn't fully think it through (which is normal, if you thought everything through too much you'd just be overthinking it)
I really do think he and Spottedleaf would be a great couple! Maybe instead of Spottedleaf dying she would survive, and when Firestar becomes leader he would defend their love for each other! ( sorry got a bit carried away 🥲 )
@@_mitsukiie But they are cats though? Cat's mature very fast. I don't understand why people are grossed out by cat age gaps. I understand they have human personalities but they are still cats.
@@gingerskyyy these cats don't they're literally perceived as children and intended to be. Still real life cats still groom each other as sometimes a male cat will find interest in a kitten if its really desperate
i HATE spotted fire SO MUCH sand storm deserves so much more! I find spottedleaf just an annoying little princess that firestar fell for. Sandstorm is one of my favourite characters and she is so much better than spottedleaf! Like if you agree, and comment if you disagree and tell me why!
He isn't the best father either, sadly! I can't recall many scenes where he's actually there for his daughters, though I suppose as a leader, he's busy. I appreciate the relationship he has with Sandstorm, but it is pretty weird that in Warriors, most of the cats will choose their first love in the end over the second love, regardless of how much time they spend together. At least they kind of amended that in the most recent books where Graystripe seems to "choose" Millie, to Silverstream's delight (despite the latter encouraging him to move on in the past).
TL;DR: Warriors REALLY needs to learn how to portray healthy relationships with the main characters.
I agree. I think it's unfair to Sandstorm and Millie, they deserve better.
I do find that many of the protagonist of this series don't have the best track record as being parents; but I also just chalk that up to just the later book's issue of not balancing out the attention given to former and newer protagonists. That and older protagonists not making the best parenting decisions is done purely for plot convivence, since otherwise a lot of plots in the series would be resolved way more quickly.
But yeah otherwise I just assumed that Firestar was a good father to his daughters off screen.
Wait wait wait, graystripe chooses millie? /pos, I haven't been keeping up with the books at all and I always read online that the Erin's "said that graystripe would choose Silverstream in startclan", so if it's not much trouble could you please elaborate? If it is true that graystripe chooses millie, that's so exciting and gives me hope for the future of warriors
@@abbledapple9004 No.. He choses Silverstream as far as I know. I feel bad for Millie
@@Marquarida
He does actually choose Mil! Silverstream is jealous despite encouraging their relationship in the past, and on top of that, Crowfeather visits Starclan and chooses Leafpool, which Feathertail is also jealous about. So, yeah, Millie keeps her mate, but it's still bad how the Erins retcon Silverstream being supportive of that relationship because apparently women have to be pitted against each other.
Perfect song for Firestar! For all the story time we get with the Spottedleaf and Sandstorm drama we really don't get a satisfying closure to the whole thing in Firestar's quest. Even though Firestar and Sandstorm functioned fine as mates (as far as warriors is concerned lmao) it's still kind of weird that Firestar keeps lingering feelings for Spottedleaf. I kinda wish there was better closure in the books, but this PMV captures the conflicted feelings I had with the whole arc perfectly! Nice job
I think firestar and Spottedleaf would’ve been a perfect forbidden relationship tbh
@@thisisthegayberhood5879 well, maybe if they were written better and Sandstorm wasn't in the way(also, their age gap, but I guess that's too much for Warriors' standards)
@@Liz66. isn’t sandstorm older then fire star?
@@Colleen1983 But Spottedleaf is bigger then sandstorm she was like 32(human ages)when her first meet firestar(paw)and firepaw is 10
@@hmr.9410 10? I thought it was like 12-13
The fact that Firepaw is canonically a simp for Spottedleaf has to be the funniest part of his whole character ark.
And the fact that her niece ends up being his mate-
@@abnormalchickennuggetwait was sandstorm really her niece?
Yes because I believe redtail is sandstorms father and Spottedleaf and red tail are siblings so (sorry if I’m incorrect)
@@Spottedleaf_Deservedbetterthat was confirmed just to be just a made up headcanon. If you look on sandstorms wiki she has no biological parents put in lol
@@Spottedleaf_Deservedbetter You are correct
i always found firesand strange, especially for warriors standards. it always seemed like sandstorm was way more into firestar than visa versa, as he often spent more time thinking about spottedleaf, graystripe, etc. it almost feels like he settled. personally i believe he never moved on from spottedleaf, and the fact she was killed in the dark forest battle so firestar "wouldn't have to choose" according to the erins confirms that for me. i absolutely adore this take on the relationship, as well as the incredibly nostalgic art and cute designs! fantastic work i'm always so happy to see you in my feed!
I agree with you, and also the fact Spottedleaf was three times his senior, you can say theyre just cats
but yknow.. they are treated like humans
thus its really fuckin weird that Spottedleaf was Firestar's actual love
and this series is supposed to be for children
@@sparrow_moon1110 yes i totally agree with that point as well. the relationship between them is not at all appropriate, and i don't like the ship either although i find the dynamic fascinating from a writing/character study aspect. i feel like for a genuinely good relationship they should've been around the same age, with spottedleaf being an apprentice when firepaw joined the clans. the erins have done age gaps like this multiple times like feathertail x crowpaw for example which also came off as a red flag. its sad because the ships could be very interesting if it wasn't for the freakishly inappropriate age gaps. however this is typical for warriors as they have many very good ideas botched with poor execution or just general obscenity that discredits the merit of it :(
@caliandthepack What would Warriors look like if it was rewritten by the fans? We know what they did wrong, and we can remendy the mistakes the Erins made, fix the really shitty writing
Speficially with Abusive relationships, or ones that have giant age gaps like this
@caliandthepack hear me out, it was rewritten by the SANE fans
@caliandthepack The Tribe is more independent and doesn't need Clan intervention half the fucking time
StarClan isn't shitty
The Dark Forest is where all bad cats go, ALL, not just "oh you did it for love you belong in StarClan" shit that was going on
Redemption is possible
No forced bad relationships (imagine if StarClan said that Squirlf and Bramble need to stay Apart and Bramble was not meant to be deputy, and Brackenfur became deputy instead)
The art style and general vibe feels like it came out of 2009, I love it
Fr it gives me nostalgia :)
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yes yes YES I FEEL SO BAD FOR SANDSTORM I always found it strange and creepy that firestar, even after many years, was in love with a DEAD cat who was literally an adult woman when he was still like A KID??? and I didn't understand spottedleafs motivation to visit firestar in dreams if she knew that sandstorm was jealous😐 i hate this spottedfire shit asf and i don't understand people who blame sandstorm for her RIGHTFULLY jealousy and anger
upd dude i like your style and char designs LIKE AISHOSBSJSK AND THE PERFECT MUSIC CHOISE
sandstorm is a good character and I like firestar and sandstorm spottedleafs is also a good character she doesn’t do anything wrong so the age ..they’re cat they’re not humans Spottedleaf is firestar first love firestar just can’t forget her She often appears in fireheart's dreams, delivering prophecies and guiding him She would never give up her duties as a witch doctor, as she dedicated herself wholeheartedly to healing I also angry at the people who said spottedleafs should be firestar mate but I love spottedleafs this character
I feel quite bad for Sandstorm because she was always there for Firestar when he needed her *and* also when he didn't. Sandstorm deserves someone that has the same feelings for her and even though Firestar does love her, he just doesn't love her in the same way.
your style and designs give me some major nostalgia somehow. This is beautiful!
But it also touches on a very good point. Firestar's obsession with Spottedleaf made no senseee
Oh my gosh I can't stop rewatching this 😭😭 it's so amazing literally the emotions and the expressions- everything is so perfect !
Very nice video and the song fits really well!
Yeah I have complex feelings about Firestar and his desire for Spottedleaf. On one hand it adds a interesting complexity to his character which I do find fascinating and I do also see as to why he does still have feelings for her (she was his first crush that got traumatically and suddenly killed, she then became his spirt guide who helped him through his most trying times and she flirted right back at him). But on the other hand every time it keeps coming up I'm like, "Oh no not this crap again. We really not get over this, can we?" And hearing they had to kill off Spottedleaf just so he would not be forced to choose, my immediate reaction was "For f***'s sake, really?". While it is not the biggest reason why, I do think this is an aspect of him as to why he has such a mixed reception among fans, and since his my fav character in the series it saddens me.
But my biggest issue of course is that it feels like it is doing Sandstorm dirty. She is such a underrated character and she does not deserve this constant jerking around.
When i first heard the song "Glimpses of us" I TOTALLY IMAGINED FIRESTAR AND HIS WHOLE "I LOVE SPOTTED LEAF BUT SHES DED AND NOW SO SAND STORM IS MY LOVE BUT I STILL MISS SPOTTED LEAF AGHHH"
Poor sandstorm :(
It's thanks to this video that I got back into WC when I needed it the most, so a huge thank you for that 🙏 I'm a fan of your drawing style, this PMV is a pure marvel. I don't know if it's frowned upon to ask for this kind of thing haha, but here's a suggestion (fingers crossed): if you like Sofia Camara's new song "Starlight", the chorus lends itself well to a Spottedleaf/Firestar PMV 🙈
I keep coming back to this video because...it's just so good...the designs, THE EXPRESSIONS! It's incredible, you are seriously underrated!
Okay but this is so gorgeous I love it so much!! It captures the feelings of this song so well too T~T
Not a fan of SpottedFire BUT this PMV is sO BEAUTIFUL IM GONNA WATCH IT LIKE FIFTY TIMES ANYWAYS
This is all coming from that couple of conversations Firepaw and Spottedleaf had.
So… I guess I have that to thank for this masterpiece.
This is really beautiful! Rare to see this relationship dynamic in this way. It's always inspiring to see someone create something beautiful through their pain.
It was great! But in reality, even though Firestar loves Spottedleaf, he will always love Sandstrom much more than he ever loved the pretty tortoiseshell. Great art, though!
I have no idea if someone has pointed this out, it was either intentional, or a good accident. The moment when Sandstorm is about to touch noses with Firestar, when it fades to Spottedleaf, she is actually touching noses with him. Like the visualisation of her being closer to his heart than his wife. It is so good I literally want to grab a knife and fork and eat all this up!
I’m not sure why but this instantly reminded me of the sss warrior cats style and it was really nice, very good job it’s wonderful
I love this, this is great.
But i can't get over that firestar cant get over a dead nun he knew when he was like the equivalent of 14.
This is very sad for firestar
Stawp your bringing back my joji phase 💀😭😭
But fr im shocked this vid is 2 years old and i havent seen it yet! New sub for sure
Joji is not a phase, its a lifestyle 🙏🙏✨✨
Thnx for the sub!!
NO NOT CRYING FIRESTAR😞
Okay, and now i wanna cry. And no one can stop me.
/sobbing/
Poor Sandstorm😣
yeah right :(
⚠️ Spoiler warning ⚠️
Little did he know…. That poor fire star would never get to spend his afterlife with spottedleaf
I feel that she kinda stupidly gave up her afterlife to save sandstorm’s life, I mean she would have gone to StarClan any way, maybe a heat of the moment decision
It never seemed right to me that Firestar would constantly think of Spottedleaf. All she would ever do was visit him in his dreams and flirt with Firestar well knowing that he has a mate, and don't even get me started on the prophecies... it's like she comes to Firestar in his most desperate and miserable times and gives him this brand new prophecy for him to try and understand, she can't just get her shit together and tell him what it means, and with him desperately asking her what she means, she just fades away. I honestly feel so bad for Sandstorm, she never deserved any of this bullshit. I've always despised Spottedfire, I do think part of what Firestar is doing to handle this is pretty wrong too, I could go over the bad things he has done in this situation but I don't feel like writing that. Anyways, I really like his character otherwise, and especially Sandstorm, she's one of my favorite characters.
But this is a great PMV I like your art style
I can also relate to Firestar in this as well. I'm sorry you are in a lot of pain currently. I hope everything gets better. You can make it through this!!
Dude I relate to Firestar here too I- this hits hard omg but it’s so pretty I may cry
This is the saddest. Freaking. Thing. EVER! It really does make you see further into the depths of Firestar's relationship, in such a terrific way... AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
INCREDIBLE! This is just amazing
It's so good honestly I haven't seen any amv show how firestar couldn't move on even with sandstorm around.
I just found your channel and I found talent, nice
This left me speechless. Wow.
SOBS THIS IS BEAUTIFUL
FireStar dont know SpottedLeaf so much is strange… the fact he love her
Although I love a certain someone so greatly I can still relate to this and it hurts💀
This hurts me
This is amazing
I think i want cryy😢😢
This is so beautiful.
I love spottedleaf x Firestar, but I feel like Sandstorm deserves so much better than Firestar. I get that he was still grieving for his crush, but he needs to be there for his wife!
This is beautiful animation and a wonderful story over all I live it!
If Spottedleaf is so great (according to the books), then why doesn't she refuse Firestar's love for her 🤨
(Amazing art btw! I love the simple designs, they're a great refresher compared to a lot of insanity I see gjwnfma)
She does in Firestar and sandstorm journey to bring back skyclan
@@WeirdGamer459OH WAIT YOU RIGHT
I love ur art too much that I subscribed! :)
Hello! Amazing Video, and quick question
Can I use the same audio and characters to make a similar PMV? Definitely no tracing though! Just same audio and characters!
Ofc!
Spectacular
Great animation
How many times did you watch this ?
Me : *y e s*
hmmm....i know it's been a while since my account was lost and i need to tell you new this pmv is my favorite so far since its release i saw it 2 hours after it was released and i really love it your work was really worth it ,and you are still my biggest inspiration ;)
ho is this real? I see perfection! i prefer fire and spotted than fire and sand i love this pmv it's in my heart and the music is very well placed thanks for working hard on this it was really worth it!
Thank you sz
Yeah no one really talks about how firestar was still lusting over spottedleaf and I bet if the role where reversed and fire was girl and spotted and sand where boys the fandom would have firestars head on a pitch fork
I don't think so-
@@yay29823
They're right. This fandom is f*cked dealing with female characters.
Look at the fact Appledusk stans exist, acting like Mapleshade was canonically a possessive, abusive bitch *before exile, before murder. I'm not calling her innocent after her murder spree.*
Look at the fandom portraying Frecklewish as some "poor constantly crying baby girl" who is always needing support and breaking down sobbing, playing along with the old trope that "women can't be aggressive" (Like she is in the book.) Or the "women need to be saved" trope.
Look at people treating Dovewing and Squirrelflight like they're seductive and use male characters who like them just because Bumblestripe and Ashfur were both petty little shits.
Look at people blaming Sparkpelt and Palebird for having Post Partum Depression completely out of their control.
Look at people blaming Spottedpaw for Thistleclaw preying on her.
Look at the fact *Ferncloud was, confirmed by the Erins, canonically only killed because people were complaining that she was "only there to have babies."* That is fucking *DISGUSTING.* I will never get over this.
Look at people blaming Twigbranch for being uncomfortable at the idea of having children just because Finleap was a complete bitch about it.
Look at people completely disregarding Bramblestar being canonically abusive toward Squirrelflight because she was spunky as a child and did what Starclan told her to do.
The fandom screams about the misogyny infecting the books, but many things the fandom itself says are rooted in misogyny. This fandom's a goddamn mess.
@@yay29823 I have seen people blame spottedleaf for what thistleclaw did to her
Spottedleaf and Firestar is kinda creepy they give me student x teacher vibes 🥶 Tbh though I don’t like Sandstorm and Firestar either, Sandstorm literally bullied him and it was so random how she just liked him after he saved her 😐
@@puppydogs68 I think sandstorm and Firestar is one of the most healthy couples in the books regardless of the bully phase tbh
this is so amazing! I love it!!!
Poor Cats
It works rlly, rlly well! And this is astonishing! Idk how i haven't seen using channel before! New sub!
*insert cash or select payment type use pin pad to complete transaction* 😔
gosh he makes me so mad. LIKE SHE WAS TOO OLD FOR YOU BRUH.
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i hope things get better for you soon
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Wow...
Nice video
But why did fire star still care about spottedleaf even tho she is a med cat lol
Only because medicine cats are not allowed to have kits or mates doesn't mean they cannot fall in love or the other way around
That's not really how love works
Sorry, this comment was kind of stupid on my part. But I will admit you guys are right, I hope I didn’t come off as rude or such.
@@ratdoodles4370 Nah, you didn't seem rude. It just seemed like you didn't fully think it through (which is normal, if you thought everything through too much you'd just be overthinking it)
@@hyalophora thank you, this makes me feel better abt the comment. ❤️
Why is that all of humanity though- like you have someone, then you think of “your” ex and realize they were better. Why is this all of humanity?
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May I ask what you use to edit and draw on?
I used firealpaca and Sony Vegas for this video!
Okay thank you!
omg yes firestar was kinda..meh
Did you know spottedleaf had feelings for fireheart?
I have one question what is the song called though so that I can listen to it?
Glimpse of Us, by Joji
First
Crowfeather doh
I really do think he and Spottedleaf would be a great couple! Maybe instead of Spottedleaf dying she would survive, and when Firestar becomes leader he would defend their love for each other! ( sorry got a bit carried away 🥲 )
So SpottedLeaf-To-Cinderpelt-To SandStorm? Wowwy
He never loved cinderpelt
And fire x cinder or spotted is gross cuz of age
@@_mitsukiie But they are cats though? Cat's mature very fast. I don't understand why people are grossed out by cat age gaps. I understand they have human personalities but they are still cats.
@@gingerskyyy these cats don't they're literally perceived as children and intended to be. Still real life cats still groom each other as sometimes a male cat will find interest in a kitten if its really desperate
@@gingerskyyy Women also mature very fast, getting their period as young as 6yrs old sometimes. That doesn’t make it okay.
@@-.RuhRoh But we aren’t talking about women, we are talking about cats.
also isn’t spottedleafs eyes amber? I haven’t read for a while but like is it red???
0:49 HER FACE OMG….
Firestar's relationship with Spottedleaf is wierd its all too- fast imo
Not to mention the age gap
@@monsterle7733 yeah absolutly true
i HATE spotted fire SO MUCH sand storm deserves so much more! I find spottedleaf just an annoying little princess that firestar fell for. Sandstorm is one of my favourite characters and she is so much better than spottedleaf! Like if you agree, and comment if you disagree and tell me why!
Idk, but i like spottedfire 😀
but . . they were never together
It's Firestar imagination