...but intelligent people believe in God
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Why have so many intelligent people believed in God?
Allow me to count the ways.
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As someone who never believed in God, people who had to deconvert really impress me. You overcame so many odds. The deck has always been stacked against you, yet you prevailed. You were honest with yourself. Don't buy into the idea that figuring out God doesn't exist is no big deal. It is a big deal. You found your way out of an intricate maze that was brilliantly designed to contain you for a lifetime. There are geniuses who couldn't do what you did.
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I wonder if this is about religion
I doubt it. Wouldn't make any sense. Pretty sure it's just some random ridiculous thing
It s about everything
maybe, but that title is pretty vague so nvm
whaaaaaaat? pffft-----that's crazy.
Nah, that wouldn’t make any sense.
"A lie told often enough becomes "the truth"" Goebbels
Edit: This was misquoted from Lenin, he never said this
*LENIN*
@@thecleitom9497 u capitalist commie.. Wait wut nvm
I see what did you did here. Good job
"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." -Hitler
like science, aka: Human theory.
Being intelligent and believing in god is just a good example of how our brains are not wired for critical thinking. We evolved as hunter gatherer animals, not scientific thinkers. Our brains have no caught up with our situations, and it most likely never will. It's fun to explain to someone just how their mind is in cognitive dissonance with itself, and the rational portion loses to the emotional. It's how geneticists can somehow not believe in evolution.
+cortster12 Logic it the weakest part of our brain that has any real power over our mind
+Cyborg Koala Logic must be extremely strong in my mind then.
exactly, after another 100 thousand years i hope we evolve to think more critically.
Adrian Amundsen In a few centuries when we understand genetics and neurology almost perfectly we could change our genetics to make babies with 'perfect' brains nothing like we are now. No need to wait for nature to do something that might not even happen.
Adrian Amundsen After another 100 years we will genetically modify the human race to be better versions of us.
Could you imagine if we could genetically modify people so that they could survive better in space. It would be far easier to send astronauts long distances.
now every 12 year old is going to say there is no god and think he is some kind of genius
That would make the world a better place
common knowlidge doesnt make people geniouses. the kids who know there is no santa dont think kids who belive in him are dumb
butt hurt?
Correct spelling couldn't hurt.
spartanace13 did you say it to me or him?
This is true for me even though I have been irreligious from a very young age. I still grew up with media that told me religious stories, and peers and family members who repeated them. I never believed them to be true, but I also did not think they were dangerous and abhorrent because these stories were told and repeated by those I considered to be good people. Then one day I idly read a conversation between two atheist thinkers and realised how vile one story truly was and how broken a mind must be to think such a story is good. I wonder how many more such abhorrent beliefs and stories I hold in good regard.
This is one of your best videos. I tip my hat to you, good sir.
+Charlie Hancock M'lady
+Charlie Hancock Better than bigs in the mosque in Minecraft? :)
+Thadd Corbett As much as I love that video for its comedic merit, this one is far more thought provoking and is the sort of thing I could imagine being shown in critical thinking lessons.
+Charlie Hancock fedora, all atheists wear fedoras
+nacho macho games Indeed, at a slightly rakish angle as well.
My deconversion was actually preceded by a period of increased religiosity. In high school, I started to fear my own mortality and Hell. I was looking for validation that everything would be alright, somehow wound up reading some old philosophy textbooks, and discovered the Ontological Argument. From that point, my God concept was a lot more restricted and well-defined (as opposed to the nebulous inconsistent blob most apologists use, which will flip-flop between mutually exclusive options so long as it wins an argument), and I started reading the Bible. I stopped sometime during the Pentateuch, I think right around where the genocide starts up. Not really sure because my mind blanked out and started skimming, which I assume was the cognitive dissonance kicking in. Later, I was working on developing a fantasy setting with its own pseudo-Christian mythology/cosmology. Having this proxy for Yahweh was really crucial to me realizing I can't square Omnibenevolence with most biblical concepts, and I became Deist. Even later, I took to watching videos debunking Creationism and other obvious nonsense, because I love a good science-pwn, and picked up enough from the Atheist Experience to shed the last of the self-deception.
Looking back, it is terrifying how much bad apologetics I absorbed, and attempted to use on my Atheist friends, without having spent significant time at church. The memes are so well refined that anyone can regurgitate them without realizing they're following a script that's been refuted a thousand times. It's only in hindsight that you can say "Oh man, he's using that line? I used that line! I've said all these things before, AND I still remember how right it all felt! How was I such a dumbass?"
+ShawnPattonC, same here. I came to realize how bad the apologetics were which were reinforcing what I believed. I looked at arguments against God and they seemed so much better. Not to mention, I don't see any good reasons to believe in God anymore.
I still fear death at times and horrendous instances of suffering causes me great discomfort because I wouldn't want those things to happen to me, so how could I be comfortable with others suffering that way?
Are you a my little pony fan?
+ShawnPattonC
Wǒ ài nǐ, wáng ài tā de chénmín. Fúcóng wǒ, nǐ huì dédào huíbào.
I met this guy once he told me he believe in God because he asked him for a proof of his existence and few minutes ago the air conditioner almost fell on his head. That was God saving his life. He was very smart, an orthopedic doctor with great political views.
+Shantae Indie I agree with you. He was trying to convince me that God exists after I told him I am atheist. Didn't work, that was our first and last date lol.
+Camila Mustrange Well I know someone who believe in god because he was lost during a tour and was lucky to found people talking his language and then find his group back. That's confirmation bias at it's finest =/
+Camila Mustrange hehe cute, I've heard better reasons, and worse reasons. Basically, they've decided to attribute a mundane, random life coincidence to a supernatural entity without any justification what so ever. lol. Otherwise they must explain all the bad shit that happens, cause of god! They can't, very selective, and delusional.
Ok now u have done it
I have been a Muslim for 15 years of my life (since birth) I live in Saudi Arabia,the country where Islam is a must
I still found the truth , I questioned everything I sided with science and here I am finding that I am not alone and I am backed up by others
Thank you for showing me the truth
+Toasty Arachnid Well done.
+Toasty Arachnid welcome to reality! respect
Ah welcome to the real world, where human progress and the future is our goal. Not fucking bronze/Iron Age fiction books...
+Toasty Arachnid Ex-Muslim here, stay safe and good luck with your future.
+Somali Atheist staying safe is the most important aspect here so thank you
I will try my best to do so
"What if you die and found out that the afterlife was a lie?" -an atheist asks
"It is worse if you found out that the afterlife was a truth." -a religious man answers.
Honestly, we don't know what's truth or lie until we die which if the afterlife was a lie, we wouldn't even exist to know or be aware as we are already dead. But we don't know that the afterlife is the truth until we experience it first hand.
Have it
Do bad things, go to hell, punished by satan. Satan = good guy
Not punished by Satan. Punished by God while Satan is also being punished.
Jay Ferguson why punish someone for not believing in you when you have not given them substantial evidence, or anything with any subsidence in about 2,000 years?
Ninety Percent Complete Because the universe itself says that there is a God. All of this does not happen by chance. Macro evolution is a lie. Think about the giraffe's neck, and tell me how that happened over millions of years. How many early models had to die before nature got it right? Why aren't we seeing species die trying to change now? Did nature say that we're all evolved enough?
Yup this is religious people summed up. They believe the ridiculous claim when there is no evidence and then their response to tht is "b-but the b-book" even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Yup this is non-religious people summed up. They believe in stereotypes and fight against strawmen and then their response to typo is "you believe [something they have an elementary knowledge of]" even a hypocrite comments twice a day.
New horror movie:
The Ridiculous Claim
Too bad we live in this horror movie. lol
Bold of you to assume we aren't the main characters of said horror movie hehe
“Based on real life events”.
New porn video, but it be about a guy with a small dick but tells everyone how big his dick is..
That one kinda hits a bit close to home....
😂😂😂😂
Question everything, especially that which MUST NOT be questioned.
Let's see what is your view on incestuous relationship without restriction of birth or even beastality?
The ridiculouse claim is just culture nothing says only religion is to blame?
Why
@No Body i read the bible and i am against it, the bible is the reason im an Atheist. If you looked from an objective point and questioned everything and didnt use confirmation bias you would be an atheist
@@ezberbozanmapper7154 Because you may have been brainwashed from an early age or been misled by those in authority.
@@Soapandwater6 why
This isnt even only about religion. This is a video that explains how any societal view, no matter how ridiculous they might be, can still be believed by the general population. Great video. Hats off.
True
Any set of believes and doctrines falls into this
Correct. General population used to believe witches were real and literally drowned and burned women alive because it was accepted as truth by religion
I can see this in many many examples. I've seen quite some videos about beauty standards, the ideal body looks like Schwarzenegger or The Rock. And they look amazing, but they did a lot to look like that and that might not even be what you want because body can take on many shapes and both Arnold and Rock shaped their body to look, Swimmers will look differently because they shaped their body for something different, marathon runners are very skinny but they will easily outpace any body builder.
Look at Eliud Kipchoge, he looks like you could easily pick him up and throw away, he won multiple medals including gold during Olympic in Tokyo
COVID
@@ivanvalentin3898 Covid conspiracies are flat earth level bullshit, it's the lowest IQ people who believe those.
If you lack critical thinking and use facebook or other social media, you have fallen for conspiracy, it's just how it is.
A sane man seems insane in a world ruled by insanity.
But does an insane man seem sane in a world ruled by sanity?
No.
@@Ethan-hk8se ok?
@Anna Meredith north east
@@Ethan-hk8se If only we lived in a world ruled by sanity.
@@PistonAvatarGuy Muh religion is too blame for that.
Despite the fact religion has been continously undermined for the past couple hundred years... (just ignore that)
You forgot to mention the forced connection between the ridiculous claim and morality so that you are made out to be a bad person if you don’t believe in it
yeah that's a good point
The part where he kills the unbeliever wasn't clear enough?
Shaming those who refuse to conform
No that was made glaringly obvious
The gospel of the new testament is to believe in Jesus and to love our fellow man. What is hard about this? Going to heaven isn't about who is the most moral, it is about whether or not you believe in Jesus (John 3:14-18)
When I was a kid I believed in god simply because I was told that way, and sometimes I asked myself what if god is not real? and then I instantly thought "nonono i must not question god i will go to hell". Seems like ridiculous claim has a good defense mechanism, perhaps those ridiculous claims before it that didn't have, simply died out, leaving only the most manipulative ones remaining.
What if this video is a ridiculous claim? nonono i must not question it because the guy in the video said he’s right
@@ibirbonyouThis video doesn't threaten you to eternal punishment for questioning it. You were fully allowed to come here and voice your disagreement without any fear of anything.
Who told you that? No, questioning things is not a sin. In fact, as a theologically educated Christian I would tell you the exact opposite, question everything.
@@StudiesOfTheAncientNearEast So if you question everything how comes that you believe in a old explanation from before the science was a thing that states that the universe was created by a bearded guy in the sky?
Not exactly universe, just a earth plane and sun that revolves around it (geocentric model that church promoted and burned scientists for stating otherwise).
And how comes you believe in exactly one god when there are many religions with many gods and many with a single god, each specifically stating that they are the only true one ?
what process of rational and critical thinking let you believe that it was clearly the christian god that created the world how bible states it and that there is no other explanation?
@@kyle--859well my faith doesn’t threaten you it’s just that it’s a warning like I don’t say YOUR GONNA GO TO HELL IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN JESUS is DONT do that
I would love to see a video of religious people reaction to this!
+Nina Williams
Easy ... Marcus could just as well be from atheist North Korea, where they actually arrest, torture and kill Christians and other religious people ...
+AGF fans
North Korean's are not atheists. They believe that Kim Jong-un is devine. Try again.
+Nina Williams Just read the comment section ;)
+Nina Williams Oh god, I can imagine it now..."Hur, hur, and hur. Hey guuuuyyyyyssss! I'm de reacterrrr!!!!! We's wawtin' dis dawkmetare vIdeo! Hur, hur, and even more hur!
I think darkmatter presents his videos in such a way that they are actually effective at making people question their beliefs, rather than just insulting them.
I didn't teach my kids much except to question everything and develop their own opinion.
everyone does that.
Did they end up believing in supernatural, like Christianity ? :-D
No, they don't. They have learned about all that stuff, but their minds have been inoculated by science. The oldest has a degree in linguistics: super-fit resistance to semantic chicanery.
I guess religion will die out in regions with good education at the turn of the century. Christmas etc. will stay for cultural and economic reasons.
OmikronPsy blahahahaha
Knock knock...
Who's there?
It's Jesus... let me in!
Why?
So I can save you!
Save me from what?
From what I'm going to do to you if you don't let me in!
Damn smart
Really true
That’s what happening by the use of term GOD
Really ? Actually he isn’t saving u from what he is gonna do to you
In fact if you don’t believe in him you won’t live with him and any life without god is actually hell
@@nthwied1164 How exactly is life without a dictator hell?
@@nthwied1164 Of course he is saying exactly that but since there are no gods it is a moot point. I'm sorry you are so brainwashed that you believe in an obvious work of fiction.
i feel bad for atheists who are born in middle east
Why
@@arandomguy83yearsago46 they get hunted down by believers
@@arandomguy83yearsago46 they get killed
“Religion of peace” ☪️ANCER
@@Tystlaten028 doesnt really have much to do with islam really
this has been a thing even before islam was created
and tbh before islam it was far worse than this
Shout out to all those who were raised religious and were able to reason themselves out. Now that takes an intelligent person!
lol
Many idiots call themselves intelligent. Doesnt mean they are.
+klok95330 and you illustrate that comment flawlessly XD
I never called myself intelligent. Reading comprehension sir.
Pretty ironic that youd say that hahaha
You certainly arent very intelligent either. Certainly lacking in the reading comprehension area.
You illistrate that flawlessly blahaha
"People don't want to hear the truth, because they don't want their illusions destroyed." -Joker
A M Wich Jocker please
@@emperorsunnyshore9272 i think its heath ledger's
Sounds like something he would say
@Luka Merkviladze oh please if you consider that a prophecy i could say there will be air and be considered a prophet.
A M Pretty sure that's a nietzsche quote
Wii leave in ay so cie tee
My autistic brain cannot understand why our society expects children to outgrow their belief in Santa Claus yet considers outgrowing a belief in "God" to be insane. To me, they were the same thing. My parents did not feel the same way…
You don't need to be autistic to think that
As a man whom has been among others while we all saw both Santa Claus and gods in person (different occasions, and drugs were definitely not involved), I would say that intelligence and wisdom are somewhat different here. Both Santa Claus and gods have both far too much and far too little ascribed to them by those who follow the Ridiculous Claims. Much is attributed to both, and far too little is accepted of both. Far too much belief is prescribed, and far too little proof of existence and characteristics is required. The difference is, the religion of Coke Cola's ad campaign gone viral is in its infancy. And the religion of each and every god from history is well established, with at least a century more of 'maturity' in which the masses of its followers have laid attribution upon attribution at the feet of making their religion more justified.
Of course the god of Coke isn't to be believed. That happened middle of last century. Give it time...
Intelligence is the capacity to understand the concept and to understand logic, flawed as it may be.
Wisdom is understanding which logic is flawed.
If you don't demand basic proof of existence and attribution, you're never going to see wisdom. You'll see plenty of intelligence though.
Because some people do stray away from God. By their own choice, or by influence of others. While others stay, by their own choice or by influence of others.
@@billdecompsa4705 so you haven’t "strayed away" from a childish belief in Santa Claus. Got it. Weird flex, dude.
@@DaveTexas non sequitur. I said nothing about Santa Claus. You're response is unrelated to my argument, which is that you're idea of "outgrowing a belief" is ignorant and childish itself because of how little nuance it has.
People outgrowing a belief in Santa Claus because they learn that it's there parents who buy the gifts, there is no such simple explanation for the divine. As such you're making a non-equivialnt comparison.
Personally, if I were raised without being indoctrinated into Catholicism my life would have been vastly better. I still have all those little superstitious ticks I can't get rid of. It would have been so much better if I've spent my entire life acting on logic then having some ridiculous claim between my thoughts and decision making
God loves you thats why. he wants you to believe him so they can get you in to a building to tithe and believe you will be reworded later. like after your dead.
@@trafficjon400 fuck off. God isn't real. You literally just proved that religion is false by commenting about God on a video that disproves religion.
@@trafficjon400 A good unbeliever will go to heaven, a bad believer will not. That simple. God is supposedly good, so he can't be such a piece of shit as to throw people in hell for doubt.
For me I was way happier as a Christian than an atheist but that may be because I was Lutherian and not catholic.
And I just see no reason to attack religions like Darkmatter does because I can't see a purpouse in that. But I think beliefs will never die and will just change when old beliefs are being proven false.
Also Tom I really think you wouldn't have logic in your decisions just by not being religious.
christian: how do you explain jesus walking on water nobody can do that
me: i can
christian: show me
me: i dont need to you just need to believe i can
Hillarious and original!!!
Hillarious and original!!!
I can walk on water, in the winter
Just put small boat beneat your feet. Some kid too young to see the trick is gonna say: Wow that guy walking on water. Someone farther away to far to see the boat are gonna be like it's a miracle so they'll start telling it and even write it in their journal or even on a book about the story of some awesome dude book that could walk on water. 5 years later some1 say this guy was god and start a religion out of it.
You're saying, of course, that tricks are needed or it's all impossible. Thing is, you can't prove - or disprove - that the supernatural (things that don't follow the natural laws of our universe) is impossible.
The Scientific Method, by which we prove natural law, doesn't apply here; it's an invalid investigative method. So we have to go by the Historical Method of proof, as used in law courts. And that can never be absolute, just statistically 'likely' or 'unlikely'.
And using such investigation, it's a Ridiculous Claim that the supernatural is impossible.
the supernatural it self defy all laws of physics already
The most terrifying part is wherever entire societies in a country in an entire region believe this crap for thousands of years, if someone wanted just the truth, he may experience many dangers and even might end up getting killed over it.
Do I have to keep the truth to myself secretly? yes I do. because I live in a country where people do this get discriminated and may end up in jail or even worse.
That is horrible and I'm sorry people should be allowed to believe what they want to believe weather or not it's true. It goes both ways for religion and atheism.
This is why American protects free speech. It’s a beautiful thing
Same here. I could get killed or jailed for my beliefs in my country. Fuck religion
@@nrgnnvn6109 I dunno but Buddhism kinda dope
@@mskellyn07 I think it's a bit more complicated than just "wanting to believe". You either believe in something or you don't, and you can't choose what you're convinced of, or what you believe in just because you want to. Belief is not really a choice, but everyone should br free to believe or not believe.
An instant go-to classic.
Absolutely. I have had this same narrative running in my head for decades. I just suck at animation and are to busy trying to raise a family and keep the "fundies" at bay from my children. This video is awesome, to the point and without profanity so I can share it with children of all ages. I personally love profanity but it sometimes keeps me from sharing these pearls of wisdom from young people.
You have many yourself
+NonStampCollector As have been many of yours, such as the contradictions game show.
+NonStampCollector cant wait till your next video
+NonStampCollector We await your next instant go-to-classic video with eager anticipation.
17-year old ex-Muslim here (for 3 years now). Love your work, keep it up! You helped me in my journey to apostasy :D
+AR Mohamed
your'e doing good!
+AR Mohamed
It makes me so happy to see a comment like yours. I hope it's genuine.
High five me m8! I'm on the same boat as you, being a ex-muslim for about 3 years now too. XD
Hodan Osman Glad to meet another fellow apostate xD
Ramsay Bolton I thought it was simply when you renounce a religion.. That's what Islam label's you as anyways.
Very well stated. I definitely will use this video if i may.
+Honestman400 You may share anything on youtube to anyone.
Rednidedni I realise that, but I'm old school. I always think it is polite to ask.
Honestman400
Already got that from your profile picture :)
Pretty sure he encourages it
Kurt Stoddard Can you expand on that comment?
People need to question their beliefs and shouldn't be afraid to answers.
That's where hell comes in if you can scare the kids young enough they never question it
True you can acknowledge people’s beliefs but that don’t mean you need respect it!
- Bill Hicks
Are there more than 2 genders?
@@AD-bb9np there are infinite yes
@@karim25559, that’s the answer I was afraid of. I failed OP
In ridiculous claim, we trust.
Ridiculous claim bless you!
all hail ridiculous claim ರ_ರ
You‘d get a like if there wasn‘t an inappropriate comma.
@@peeblekitty5780 Pffft nah homie All hail Cthulu
Yes i agree all praise to the divine flying spaghetti monster :'3 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Video: God don't exists
Youube: Here, have a bible ad
Very true
GOD EXISTS!!!
@@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals Odin
@@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals proof?
Same with tik tok, kind of
And when Marcus does realize that the ridiculous claim is ridiculous, he'll feel immense guilt for killing that other guy.
Which is why he'll never let himself consider anything that could show him how ridiculous it is. It would hurt too much.
Applies to smaller things than killing people, too.
Lol was that a BLM riot? I thought it was about religion until they got violent, then I realized it was about progressives not Christians, since Christians haven’t gone to war in centuries
@@AD-bb9np Did you forget about hate crimes? Mass shootings? The Capitol storming?
@@purplekitten6637, none of those things are being widely condoned so I don’t see how they apply here.
@@AD-bb9np The storming of the Capitol is not condoned by conservatives? Lol.
god trying to save you from his own punishment is the dumbest thing I ever heard
people evolving from monkeys is even more dumber tbh
He doesn’t save you from punishment, he stops you from leaving the light. It’s more like a parent stopping you from jumping off a cliff, then them pushing you fro disobeying
@@raigo4887 shut up donald you racist
@@raigo4887 Even though we've observed that exact concept in in real time when humans created 500 kinds of dogs from wolves?
@@raigo4887It isn't dumb. It actually makes a ton of sense if you have even a basic understanding of how it works.
This is one of the best videos ever, that everyone needs to see.
@@trav9947 Some people don’t care to think about why they believe. It’s whatever they were raised with till the end.
I hope in the future more people actually care though because I don’t see the point in living such a mindless lifestyle.
@@trav9947 thats because she honors your beliefs. How would you like it if she said your beliefs were batshit huh! if she said atheism is crack and it is dumb to believe in the explosion of a dot versus the almighty god creating our universe. Besides she is your parent. she would have higher power over your beliefs than you would on hers. So if you are trying to get revenge on her because she tried to mock your beliefs when you were a child or try to enforce them upon you then I get it. But if you are just trying to change her beliefs instead of respecting them even if they sound batshit to you even if she completely respects your atheistic beliefs, views, and ideas about how the world is and what the truth is. Then who is the wrong one here moname. every indivitual has beliefs and the truth can never be trully confirmed or objective ok. The truth is a subjective and relative matter. respect the beliefs of everyone until the exsistence or unexsistence of god is 100% confirmed.
Respect the person not their belief
Satan agrees with you
@@trav9947 You don't have to be religious to go to heaven, you only need to believe in Jesus(John 3:14-18)that he will save you from your sins and the hell on earth that is soon to come
Plus these intelligent people from the past they often cite, grew up in times when there was less understanding of the world, so they are more likely to think deities created it.
+Jai Fiorentino Newton was an alchemist, which shows how flawed he was in some subjects.
+Jai Fiorentino good point
+Jai Fiorentino Indeed. And stretching farther back, this is would be a big part of the origination of religions, while what the video describes the effect that explains its continued prelevance even after superior explanations for the same questions that religions sough to answer have been offered.
+Jai Fiorentino Well and also maybe some even didn't believe but was forced to say so because they would've been rejected by society (or burnt as witches).
+Jai Fiorentino You bleached your armpit hair? For fuck's sake!
Thank god i'm an atheist
I NOTICE UNDERSTANDING PLEES XPLAYN!!!
@@decatessara5029 joke...
@@nicethings3984 BUT AM NOT UNDERSTANDYNG WIE NO YOU EXPLAYN TEW MYE??!?!
Say that again but slowly
nicethings brother that doesn’t make sense
I'm atheist/agnostic, and one of my best friends is Christian. Even then, she surprises me sometimes with things that I'm sure her church would consider blasphemous. Things like, "There's no way Jesus was a white man, he was born in the Middle East; so why is every painting of him depicted as white?"
However, I know someone else, a very troubled, vengeful person, who tries to find people's names in bible passages, and use them as *proof* that others are out to get them. This same person once told me that my name was connected to godliness, because they found parts of my name in a bible verse... months later, in a fit of rage, they told me that my name spells 'devil', therefore I should never be trusted. I don't know what inspired their rage; I was going about my day, minding my own business, when they decided to send me a barrage of angry texts. I don't speak to this person anymore, nor do I ever intend to
What is the name that the person said it meant "devil", was it lucifer? I dont think anyone would name their child that name conaidering how much hate you can get from any religion in existence. What was the name, if i may ask?
@@HarutoVa probably lilith
blasphemy is talking down or insulting god. What she is saying is def not blasphemous and shes actually right. Jesus was very much so middle eastern he was born in Bethelhem, Isreal. and jesus is usually depicted as white because during the time being more pale was a sign of status and of course jesus would have that such high status as well and since during that time romans were so influencial other countries adopted that view of christ. and yeah some christians are weird the best way to know if someone isnt a weird christian is if to see if they mention what type of christian they are of if they just say they follow the word of Jesus Christ
@L9Wally correct
as for the second person, they could just have some mental illness like bpd or schizophrenia that you could be biased towards since this the video is about how religion is whack and there is a possibly mentally ill person with a christian upbringing and a bible that you know
Sir, if they are Christsain and sending angry texts at you, coming against you, I don't think they can be called Christians.
The bad example of religion, is, religion.
The truth is found only in the real Jesus, who we are saved by grace from through faith.
I'm sorry these christains took you away from the faith, that is, If you had it.
I tell you this, Jesus is real, Just ask Him for a second chance, He can wash you, cleanse you, and save you, I know this because I was an atheist, I used to watch these videos and all sorts, but God showed me His realness and Love.
Look, the purpose of life is not of this world. The life of eternity God has set for us us to be, and we must put our faith in Christ to live.
We are not saved by church, by religion, by fake Jesus, no, but by grace through faith in Christ, not of works, lest anyone boast.
Jesus loves you, God bless.
*_The Ridiculous claim_*
How tf did u get 76 likes for that comment???
Edit: 1000????
@@runningforver5958 84*
@@Gryflir 10 Likes in 10 hrs, u some sort of evil mind control genius?
Thanks to many youtube atheist, i have realized that the ridiculous claim of god was a lie. im so glad to be free of the cult of christianity.
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For those of you regularly arguing with a theist: Don't throw good arguments in their faces but try to make them figure it out for themselves by talking about this very argument only agianst another religion/ideology etc. Because as this video points out, arguments don't really help, but if you bring too many arguments or argue to often, after a time they will be so annoyed that they won't listen at all, literally.
Thank you...I argue with my mother sometimes about religion and it might be a good tip.
+V endetta "I can't it is too big" Oh sorry, wrong conversation.
I wanted to say that this process can go on for month or even years. But on the other hand the alternative would be to annoy the living hell out of them until they put their finger in their ears and start singing "Holy .... Jesus .... Grace .... Who-hoo-hooo-ho-hooo-hooo .... Spirit ..."
Ok i admit it I wrote this entire comment just to write the first quote. :D
Of course that only makes sense when your "Do there is no try" was a reference to "Do or do not there is no try" from Yoda. Otherwise my comment might have been a little confuaing for you :D
+V endetta Yeah, this is how I also think about it. Individual facts aren't as important as the ability to be sceptical, due to the fact that the latter will lead to the former far more reliably than the other way around. I don't even consider particularly a means of argumentation, but rather as the general way I try to encourage other people, and myself as well of course, to think.
+V endetta Exactly. Ok, I literally have no idea what time it is where you live but here in Germany it's 1:20 A.M. and I should really go to bed now..
As someone who never believed in God, people who had to deconvert really impress me. You overcame so many odds. The deck has always been stacked against you, yet you prevailed. You were honest with yourself. Don't buy into the idea that figuring out God doesn't exist is no big deal. It _is_ a big deal. You found your way out of an intricate maze that was brilliantly designed to contain you for a lifetime. There are geniuses who couldn't do what you did.
This was my first video after crossing a half million subs. The future of this channel will continue to bring videos both silly and serious. Thank you, those of you who have stuck with me over the years. Welcome, those of you who are new. I hope to continue to be worthy of your interest and support.
I made it out alive before I was drowned in the bullshit. Thanks to you of course.
+DarkMatter2525 can i ask.... why is it bad to believe in A god not in the different religions and the Bible but just that a supernatural being exists, i think that it is not IMPOSSIBLE for one to exist, is it really ridiculous to believe in A god (not the fairy tale of the Bible)
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Thanks for your amazing videos :) I first started watching about 3 years ago, and all it took was just one of your videos for me to question my faith in "God" I've been a proud atheist ever since and I enjoy your intelligence to this day.
It's because of people like you and Hitchens and Dawkins etc etc that help us Deconvert. your videos helped guide me out the maze.
I just can’t wrap my head around it. I mean. The bible is an actual story. Just like shrek, Harry Potter etc. Yet people base their lives on it. It’s so sad and embarrassing honestly.
It's true! You might as well believe in the Easter bunny! There's absolutely no difference!
they dont think that far, or more accurately put, cant think that far ahead.
the tool you have for understanding your environment is not sufficient enough in them, they are dependant on the group to think for them and therefore never use that part of their brain that reasons or has logic on its own. its crafty and evil techinque to enslave other's, often targeting children to where its all they know. its very sad.
@@nicoleeppinger3562or Santa
If only it were a story, the thing would make a lot more sense. In reality, it's an endless mess of contradictions and nonsense. Stories are at least internally consistent.
@@nicoleeppinger3562 Santa is the only true god, one day all of you idiots will see and he will punish the by sending them to the toy factory to make toys for young children
I'm here just wondering why the Ridiculous Claim is sometimes in caps lock.
Elmi Maxeme both my friend, both
God made it big lol duh
RIDICULOUS CLAIM
Ridiculous Claim™
What if the ridiculous claim is calling the ridiculous claim a ridiculous claim?
"religion is the only prison where the locks are on the inside"
Apparently you've never heard of selective mutism
And you lock yourself in.
@@gsjfoepgKftvtDisjtu your point being?
What is that?
As the time went on people have saw the proof that God exists with their bare eyes, but atheists will never be able to provide an undisprovable proof there is no higher force.
Narrated by a young christopher walken
+lolmouf haha ---never thought of that before...
Christopher Walken's an atheist?? Who knew?
+lolmouf was waiting for him to ask for more cowbell
+CatMaster90001 Im pretty certain what lolmouf means, is that Darkmatter sounds like Christopher Walken.
Robbie King Yes, I understood the joke. I was just playing along with it.
"To find out what controls you, you must simply find out what you're not supposed to criticise" - Voltaire
But you changed that quote.
Look up at what Voltaire said on his death bed
I think this was said by the Neo-Nazi, Kevin Strom. www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/nov/27/cory-bernardi-mistakenly-quotes-voltaire-on-twitter-with-supposed-neo-nazis-line
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@@MB-mn8do yea this is a fake quote
i believe in the one true god, steve from minecraft
well, I believe in alex
you'll regret believing in the wrong god once you go to the Nether
TherMiX i have sans undertale by my side
i have dead meme shaggy
My god is Super Mario. You'll be kidnapped by Bowser and be tortured in his castle forever if you don't believe in Super Mario!
@@jonablob117 Bowser is daddy so fine by me
Nailed it like Jesus to the cross.
+Saile Ronoh lmao good one
No guys let's be good okay? Repent and be baptized Acts 2:38 Jesus loves you guys okay?
+Detona Tesoni and you were alive when atheism started? (Sarcasm)
+Fancy Corey Actually, we're all born atheists. Some have the misfortune to be born to parents who eventually turn them religious.
+John City321 nah fuck em
Being an intelligent believer who deep down knows the faults of religion but shuts them out because they are afraid must be cognitive dissonance hell.
The thing is, you’re taught to dismiss them by saying “god works in mysterious ways”
exactly and unfortunately
They are always one mental step away from a complete existential crisis
It is
BORIS!!!!!!!!!
*sends to all my friends who hate me for not believing* lol
@GreyhoundDan Proof?
Tyler Minevich life can’t be created from lifeless matter
@@rikey8225....... It legit was/is......
Proof?
@@ediblecrayon4989 proof?
I was raised mormon. Baptized and all that. I spent a lot of my teen years trying to reconcile my belief in god with my love of science. Science won out eventually because it had all the empirical evidence.
+Kardarius Randle like abstinence is a sex position
I was raised Mormon too! I'm so glad I broke free from the cycle of ignorance!
+Kardarius Randle force will equal mass times acceleration if i pray really hard... yea ok
+Kardarius Randle yea because gravity only works if you pray and your car runs on the blood of Christ lol
***** You don't have to believe in science you prove it by doing it yourself. You can do your own experiments and they will align with scientific theories that were developed by doing repeated experiments. Do you think scientists just pull things out of their ass and then its fact? That's not how it works.
There is no proof that god does, nor doesn't exist. I believe that if he does, he is nothing like we all describe him.
+Jasaf3
he ?
+superstd stfu feminist ^^
***** +superstd To satisfy you all, I think that god is unisexual since no sexual "tools" are needed for him to reproduce.
Jasaf3
how do you know that it cannot reproduce ?
have you taped it ?
superstd Have you?
THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY:
Why does the ridiculous claim need so many DIRTY tricks to be believed?
it does not?
@@martinsoukup562 it does
@@azuriiarts2353 ok name a few.
@@martinsoukup562 im late, but rewatch 5:02
@@plmkoo6772 I disagree that it proves that it needs them.
I used to be brainwashed with Religion when I was a child, but I gladly found my way out of this weird nonsense! I am so glad!
Do You Believe In The AfterLife?
@@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals Do you?
@@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals Death is sleep, not afterlife. If you die, you see nothing. No light.
@@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals no you feel see and hear things because of your brain and nerve system when you die your bodyfunctions stop you are not caution of anything after that
@@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals it's a nice thing to imagine, but that doesn't make it true.
If a lie is told enough times to the people, it becomes truth.
- Napoleon Bonaparte
Faris Zurub agreed
Agreed. Just look at the comments to see how many people now believe the lie of Religious Atheism is truth.
Also look at all the anti-thiests and how many people believe christianity is false because of the horrible and cruel ways DarkMatter depicts Christianity. . .
Atheism means you don't believe in a god. There's no truth about it. As there is no truth to Christianity, Judaism, Islam,... There's no evidence for any of them to be truthful. So why should everyone be forced by some dogmatic group that takes control over a region?
then what is true Simon?
I am a deist, a person who believes in creator but not in religion. I used to be muslim. The community people always claimed ridiculous claims. When i mentioned that i do not believe in religion, my friends left me. They did not talk with me as they used to. Even mire surprising is that, they do behaviours, which are considered sin in islam, more than i do. Additionally, they contemplate that by praying to "God", their sins will be deleted. It makes no sense. It is just ridiculous.
Fool, you know nothing. Submission is bliss. Humans do not naturally submit. Yet a force drives us to now.
Yeah you can do any sin if you're rich and go to umrah and be like a new born baby who never committed any sins. It is ridiculous
same bro its a mindfuck
If there is a " creator" all we can know of it is that it's not benevolent. Unless you consider pathogens, disease causing genes, our cells propensity for becoming cancerous, a world prone to natural disasters, the sheer brutality of nature to be indications of benevolence. Fact : The greatest cause of the pain and suffering of all living creatures is the creator - if it exists.
Blaming something that you don’t believe in for what you dislike about the world shows your heart space. I bet you blame other people for your own problems too.
It's funny that I think of this, because when I look back on it. I almost didn't become an atheist, If I hadn't asked that question in Bible study that day, I might not have made the connection.
We were talking about how god supplies all of our needs, whatever it is you require he'll provide. But me and my cousin being 8 and 10 at the time respectively, had a question. I asked first, " What about the people who don't have what they need?" " And they believe and pray in god all the time."
No real answer was given, rather I was simply redirected by being told that we do not know why god does what he does.
My cousin then asked, " What about the people who don't believe in god that have more than what they need?"
Again, no real answer. From this point on to about age 14, I waffled back and forth. I searched for evidence of god, finding claims everywhere and looking at their validity. I examined the other side and I found myself. Stumped. Being a scientifically minded person, it cut to my core when I read what Stephen Hawking had to say on god. It was an article online, but I didn't believe it fully. Being a kid at the time, I couldn't swallow it, going to my mom with teary eyes asking her what she thought.
Like any loving mom, she comforted me. But she also reestablished my previous belief. I was comforted, but at the same time. I couldn't truly shake away what I'd read. From that point on, I was agnostic with a leaning toward the possibility of there being a god. I got home from school one day, did what I usually did. And there was this special on the science channel or natgeo talking about life after death, immortality, and supernatural phenomena. One segment particularly addressed prayer, how it's results didn't show that it actually had any effect on the outcome of cancer patients.
Later that week, I went through what I call accepting the truth. I didn't want to be seen, so I merely went in my basement and looked around. My mom has all kinds of christian posters, paintings, and bible verses everywhere. I just went down there and looked at it all. For hours. I sat. I cried. No matter what mental gymnastics I did, my brain just couldn't revert back.
For a 10 year old kid, the idea of death being the end is terrifying. Even now, I keep thinking to myself. This can't be all there is, there has got to be a way. My mind wants an out, a way to comfort itself. Before, I couldn't take it.
But now I can handle the truth. God is but a vestige of an era of the unknown.
I later told my sister this, what amazed me the most about her, is that she knew this would happen. Being the science kid that I was, she told me that she suspected I'd reach this conclusion.
As for her, she still says that she believes in a god. But I don't know to what extent.
Man reading these stories is really interesting!
+Bennie C (“Bee836”) I would suspect your sister is secretly an atheist too. She got to the conclusion before you even, from what I read of your story.
Jonathan Allard
Yeah, she's older than me too. Especially since she predicted it. I asked her about church, I know she doesn't go anymore since she moved out.
I left this bit out, but currently I'm 18 and I let my family know. They took it better than I thought, especially my grandfather being a pastor and all.
*****
Yeah for the longest time I wouldn't even call myself an atheist because I just couldn't accept it. Like I knew my faith was gone, but I didn't even wanna call myself. Even with my parents around. It took me some time before I accepted it. Like, The Amazing Atheist and other similar channels. I couldn't watch them, because I had still clung onto those ideas.
Eventually I moved past it, accepting the truth. I've been this way now for some time. And I hold to it. Every once in awhile, my mom tries to tell me that I will come back. I keep telling her that there isn't a chance.
I'm going to college soon, with a major in physics. I feel somewhat bad though, because my family is very rooted in religion. My grandpa is the pastor our church, having actually done quite a lot of good for our community. I feel bad about it because it's our family legacy at this point. I know it hurts them, but I had to tell them that I want nothing to do religion.
+Bennie “Bee836” C Well at least your parents allowed it lol. I read the Bible from the beginning to the end and I found it ridiculous. At the same time, I went to church every Saturdays and Sundays and I found out that people would only refer to the good things about God, but never give a flying fuck about the bad. I literally loved God like he was a parent until I was like 15. Started to have my doubts when I was 18 or something, but when I voiced them out I just got a hiding from my Dad. My Mum would pray for me and out of stupidity I would voice my thoughts on God on Facebook, but god forbid I forgot that the Pastor in our church was added to me and he prayed for me as well. Then my parents forced me to get baptized in a swimming pool when I was in my 20's. In the end, I can't really say anything to my parents, they would debunk what I say and just say, "Believe in God and you will get your CA." They would also force me to go to church even when my beliefs in God have literally completely disappeared. So when the worship starts on a Sunday(I don't go on Saturdays anymore), I would always look at the wall and imagine that I could be doing something more productive with my life.
You neglected to mention the part where those who support the ridiculous claim insist that the claim be given the utmost respect, and consider any disrespect of the claim to be disrespect of them personally.
+quintopia That was very well said, but I think that the world is changing. I graduated from high school last year, and I would estimate that 60% of my graduating class was Atheist. Making a joke about religion was a great way to make a group laugh. That was in upstate NY.
Now I've moved further south, and there are far more religious people my age. Hopefully Atheism will spread through the country, but I think in 3 more generations, Atheism could be the largest belief.
Its more of a lack of belief, but the point holds.
Lightningy Ah yeah, I was trying to figure out how to word that. Thanks.
+quintopia This happens with everyone on every belief. It's not particular to theism, nor religion, nor even ridiculous claims. It is the way of humans.
+Valosken I actually think the idea that a certain belief is above criticism by anyone regardless of their membership in the group that has this belief is particular to religion
being a christian is like having a father who says "love me or else"
More like: “have some respect for your father, and do right, or else.
@@saturnianrings3920 not even close
@@俺は誰でもない says the non Christian who is fundamentally opposed to the concept of a good god.
@@PEYTONTHEPROTAGONIST that’s what you think a closed minded person.
@@saturnianrings3920So genocide, rape, and slavery are all good? The god of the Bible is okay with them, so if that is all good then so are those things.
Fuck that, I just had to think and read to realize is all lies. I was an atheist even before I realized it, and the only reason I was crhistian for years is because I was obedient as a child and I loved and respected my parents
Do your parents know?
yes
same
I spent the majority of my childhood trying to convince myself that I believed in God because I was terrified of disappointing my parents. Eventually I had to admit to myself that it simply was not possible for me to believe in something so ridiculous solely on blind faith; I'm just not that kind of guy, I need solid evidence if I'm gonna believe something is true. My parents still don't know I'm an atheist because I still fear their disappointment, but one day I hope to have the courage to tell them.
Hatsune Candy It may sound harsh, but in my case is the inverse. I'm the one who is disappointed that they are theist and adoctrinated me into christian religion.
This video makes me reflect on what a miracle it is I rejected faith. I really don't know what did it for me.
Probably Satan.
Me
+The 60's where the times lmao he's not real
TRUTH
+David Jones You're more of an intelligent guy and more rational than other average people.
my whole life has been run by this ridiculous claim, but somehow I managed to escape it. however now I keep a secret from my whole entire ultra religious family and I'm still forced to go to mass and in order to keep that secret. it's not a good life especially since I know the truth.
you are like me, i am 15 btw. i hope when i move out from my parent's house i can express myself and do what ever i want to do.
same I'm 19 btw
I feel so bad for u all 😢
Jesus doesn't forbid you to express yourself and do whatever you want to do unless what you want to do is detrimental to yourself and other people like murder and rape. Then he doesn't want you to do it because he LOVES YOU but then again do you want to hurt people or yourself ? Probably not.
Also it is Jesus that gives you the dreams that you want to accomplish in this life, believe it or not he is good and our desires of a life filled with love, friendship, joy and happiness come from him because he has all those things and he wants good for all men which is him.
That is why he died for us all and forgave us all of ALL of our sins and when he says ALL he means ALL of them.
That means you are perfect in the eyes of God no matter how much you fail at not sinning, you will always be perfect in the eyes of God. For God has already forgiven you 2000 years ago and totally has FORGOTTEN ALL OF YOUR SINS, your sins have been effectively removed from your existence so that God can be with you and you didn't have to lift a finger to make that happen. Because God did all the work for you so that you can just rest from your efforts of trying to be perfect for God by relying on his perfect work for you that makes you perfect by HIS hands.
Jesus will always be there for you and he will always love you, that means he will never let you go no matter how bad your situation is from your end. For God sees you exactly the same way as he sees Jesus, that means God doesn't see our sin at all because Jesus has no sin.
The best part is that you receive this awesomeness absolutely for free, you didn't have to work, pray, try to be good for this tremendous gift God has given to all men, you only have to realize that you are in sin and change your mind to see that you need a saviour to get out of it, that's all you need to do to obtain salvation by receiving the gift of salvation.
Also to clarify the word repentance for you for many misunderstand the meaning of this word, repentance actually means "to change your mind". It does not mean to wallow in your self pity because you sinned or crying to God for forgiveness for your sin, when he has already forgiven everyone 2000 years ago, that's not repentance. If you have ever seen anyone do that as an action of repentance, then that individual is not getting the picture of what God did for him and that person needs to actually repent by changing their mind and see that Jesus has already reconciled man to God for him. That means man doesn't have to feel bad for his mistakes but be in extreme joy that God has forgiven him of all his trespasses and when he does change his mind and start to act from a position of being completely forgiven.
Then all his trouble with sin will begin to subside and he will have no problem denying himself the things that are detrimental to his very being not because he has to but because he wants to, it's a total shift in your consciousness it's quite real and it's so good as it makes everything so easy !
Our God is truly compassionate and loving so it's sad that the church culture has moved you away from him but God is awesome and he never gives up on showing you his love for you because won't ever stop loving you.
Jesus doesn't force you to do anything you don't want to so your parents aren't exactly following his example if you feel you are forced to attend church and are forced to keep your view of reality a secret.
That is not in line with the Jesus I know, who has never forced me to do anything, he only invited me to receive his free gift of salvation to which I have received by saying "yes I need a savior" and he invites me every day to follow him in this life. I can choose to follow him or not to meet people and talk to people wherever he wants me, however whatever the choice I make he won't look at me differently at all.
For I will still be a child of God and I will still be perfectly loved by God, no matter how much I fail in this life, he will never fail at loving me and his work of salvation will never make me fall into death, no matter how much of an idiot I can be which makes me really happy! For the gospel is GOOD news and our reactions to it are GOOD when we hear the truth of the work God has worked for us.
If this is not the image of God in your church a God that has completely forgiven and forgotten your sins and completely loves you as you are, then I understand that you are not attracted to him because they aren't showing you how God really is towards you.
He is more loving that any loving mother can be, for he is love and he likes us to see that he is that loving or else you are going to have trouble like self condemnation, self pity because of sin and other things that pull us into fear and condemnation. Condemnation which finally ends in people either giving up on believing or commit suicide, so if your parents are condemning themselves for their sins and you for yours.
Have compassion on them for they don't understand the work Jesus did for them, tell them Jesus has already forgiven them 2000 years ago so they can stop feeling bad for their sins for God doesn't see them as sinful he sees them exactly as he sees Jesus, that means God sees them as perfect.
I know a lot of highly intelligent people, and *none* of them believe in God.
yeah i think that's true.
i don't think im not even close to being intelligent but just *can't* convince myself to believe in god, even as a coping mechanism
@@Dr.andonutsNobody is intelligent, we all have the same brain. The only way you can be “intelligent” . Is by being informed of what society thinks is important and should be known.
I believe in God, I am a man of science myself. But I do not believe in religion
@lame6509 A reasonable distinction. I would expand: monotheism is inherently divisive; and organised, public, displays of religious belief are offensive to many people.
@@lame6509 What makes 'a man of science' believe in something there is merely speculation about and no hard evidence of?
I understand self delusion for the sake of comfort and happiness is actually quite positive for mental health in itself, hope and positivity is what keeps people striving for something better.
I'm 16 year old atheist from Tunisia. I remember when I first started doubting religion I was 11 years old, at that time I wanted practice Islam in its truest form because I didn't want to be a hypocrite and I didn't want to be that type of people who believe in something just because they were taught to. I started searching and reading and the more I read the more disappointed I get but I was always guilt-trapped, I went to Mecca twice and I really didn't enjoy it at all because deep down I wasn't convinced at all but I tried to convince myself because I just thought to myself how come 1.5 billion people believe in this and not me? I remember when I was 13/14 I had the worst nightmares about being tortured, burnt in hell, forced to read Quran, crying and begging for forgiveness, I couldn't sleep for months and when I talked to people about it, they said I'm possessed by a demon. I became at peace with myself at the age of 15 when I just accepted the fact that I'm an atheist.
sorry for the long story but anyway right now I'm living a nightmare (sort of) because I have this personality in public and another one between me and myself. if my family finds out about this I'll be disowned and I can't handle that. it sucks because I'm afraid I'll live my whole life as a person I'm not, I want to study aboard but my grades aren't good and honestly the immigrants in Europe already ruined it for all of us lol. sorry again but I can't talk to anyone about this and I just wanted people to know that there are many irreligious people in Muslim countries and Tunisia especially but we're just afraid.
+_nour I can relate to that not the same extant as I live in the west but still I would be ostracized by my family.
+_nour
Be careful. Make absolutely sure they don't find out. Hang in there. I know it must be hard, but the consequences of being found out are too dire to take major risks.
theuncalledfor
Why don't you believe in God?
Zach Johnson Rather than asking why he doesn't believe in god, you should be asking why he should believe in god.
Belief is a compulsion, therefore the reason he doesn't believe in god is obvious; the arguments, proofs and texts are not convincing to him.
One I was 9, Iwent to my friends religious camp crying. I told my mom: "I thought mother Teresa and all of the others were only good to be good, not to please God"
My family wasn't really religious even though my mom grew up in a catholic school. I learned this too growing up and I found it to be very unappealing. Going to church to prove your good and doing good things only to get into heaven. I thought it was so fake.
Except that is false. Christians do good to do good. They don't do it to impress God or not go to Hell because Hell is a place you go to when you don't believe in Jesus. It's not a place you go to for sinning... unless you were Jewish 2,000 years ago before Jesus. It's just a fact that there are bad and good people in every community no matter if their religious or not or what their motives are.
+Freddie Hopkins don't say this man!
If hypothetically god exists, then he is A: Not all powerful, or B: A sinister, evil being, that gives a shit about everyone and everything, and I could never respect someone/something like that.
"Knowing what will happen in the future does not cause it to happen"
Yes... But knowing what will happen means *it will happen*... Why is the cause relevant? Technically, god knows the causes that led to your ultimate decisions, exemplifying the impossibility of free will! Omnisciences implies that the universe is deterministic; predetermined... Knowing everything would entail knowing the causes that engendered every possible occurrence.
"There will be presidential elections this year in America. By your logic, because I know this it must happen..."
No... It just means you know it will happen...
"Knowing future events means only that, knowing, not causing"
But this "knowing" would encapsulate the causes! Regardless of the distinction, free-will is ultimately mitigated by the fact that our decisions are predetermined!
"God knows what you'll freely choose"
That's contradictory: That's stating there's a 50% chance of absolute certainty, which boils down to a 50% chance... There is no "free decision" as the future is already determined... If I eat eggs tomorrow morning, and god knows this, there's nothing I can to to alter this future, as it would suggest that the variables have only allowed for this occurrence!
there is only one true god. phil swift, spokesperson of flex tape.
I S A W E D T H I S B O A T I N H A L F
DelNiceBeto you sir speak of our true prophet!! Praise the Flex Tape!! T H A T S A L O T O F D A M A G E
The ridiculous claim is the science fiction of evolution
That something comes from nothing
The ridiculous claim comes from schools and universities
"something comes from nothing" is EXACTLY what the Bible claims.
Charles Hanna yeah we are the ones with the made up stories. Evolution is a FACT. Get over yourself.
Brilliant exposition of Voltaire's dictum "Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
guess that makes me and about 84% of the world at risk to commit an atrocity
@@Venuit1233 Yep. "
“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”
― Steven Weinberg
where are my fellow giant spaghetti monster worshippers at
may the pasta be with you
R'amen, brother
are you fucking kidding me...
it’s Pastafarians🤣 R’amen my brother
Difference is that you don't really believe in that.
cthulhu is the answer. Join our religion and worship the great one.
I had a weird childhood. My mom was an atheist but she never told me until I was older. I was put in Christian preschool and church throughout my childhood and I truly did believe untel I was in 9th grade. I was always thinking of reasons to believe but my intelligence often outweighed my faith. It got to the point where I just dropped the belief all together. It was such a huge weight off of my shoulders, and it made me happy because it was my OWN decision to stop believing. I had finally begun thinking for myself, and so I wanted to tell my mom I was an atheist. I was expecting her to be mad or punish me but she was happy. She told me she was an atheist as well, and that she was very proud that I was independent and intelligent enough to think for myself and decide what is right on my own.
we are all sheep and will die in a slaughter house called earth
@@backstabboi4559 wow cool lines
Hey man I'm agnostic more power to ya
All power to you, Tee Diddle!
My parents and me never went to church, but they did believe. (Or so I thought.) I was baptised and had my First Holy Communion. When I came out as an athiest, my mom told me my father was too, he just didn´t talk about it. I was very surprised because he´s friends with some priests but it turned out that they agreed not to bring their believes into consideration. My mom is more of a spiritist and doesn´t trust church just like allof my family.
My grandparent (not sure if their atheists or spiritists) told me not to tell anyone like I didn´t know it.
@@marywhipes4875 for the sake of those of us who don't know can u explain what is spiritesim exactly ?
I was raised to be catholic. can't believe i was so stupid
+Raven3one Me too. I remember the first time I ever stood up to my parents about their beliefs. I didn't attend mass one day and I got the whole "God gave you all the time in your life and you can't give him one hour a week?" baloney. I just retorted, "God gave you all the time in your life and you ONLY give him one hour a week?" LOL. I think that was the beginning of the end of my belief in deities. That was 1997, so what . . . 19 years ago now.
+EstariaValens This year was the first time I didn't attend ash wednesday. my entire family is made up of staunch catholics. they aren't very happy about it. My aunt says that im lost because now i have nothing.
nothing holding me back anymore. Its really such a relief to leave religion behind. Its only after you leave it do you realise just how badly it punished you for doing things that arent really bad. the stress and guilt of committing sins like missing church and not partaking in the biscuit god i used to call the eucharist. I spent 7 years in catechism, 5 years in the life teen program. 3 years in the band. 2 years on the young adults core committee. i was a leader on the alpha course, and i had done the course twice. (and also been 'slain by the holy spirit') and also gone on pilgrimage multiple times.
and then suddenly the lens shattered. i understood exactly how everything worked. and apologetics couldnt hold me anymore. i was sitting at a committee meeting and somebody said something about the existence of god. I replied with yeah, but we can't give definite proof that god exists, which is where the need for faith comes in. the person replied with 'of course we can prove god exists' and then he presented the statement 'i exist because god exists' as a logical argument.
From that point onward, i began to see the bullshit in every statement. every one oozing with stupidity. Illogicality flying through the room. suddenly i lost the ability to give input at the meetings because i found myself disagreeing with everything. I had to quit immediately. I actually didnt know what was happening to me. i just couldnt support them any more. i mean, sure i love them. i love everyone in my church community. but its all a lie.
+EstariaValens I never thought of it that way. When I used to attend church every Sunday, I thought that one hour per week was enough, but now it really makes sense that one hour isn't much at all considering how the relationship is set up. Like if I had a child, I would expect myself to spend as much time as possible with my child, and not just one hour per week, so your comment really opened up my eyes even more.
+Raven3one Omg we're in a similar boat with this. Ex-Catholics unite! This ash Wednesday was the first time as long as I could remember that I didn't get ashes when my family did. Luckily they're not dicks about it though. I get your last point too that you love your Church community, and given that like all my friends up till 12th grade are Catholics and went to local churches I see what you mean. My neighborhood didn't have many people my age and I went to parochial school k-12. I still like my friends and family, they're otherwise cool people lol
+Raven3one ... well, perhaps you were, but I would be more inclined to say that those who brainwashed you were the real stupid ones.
Islam in a nutshell
religion
I grew up being taught the that the "ridiculous claim" was "true". As I got older I began to question things. Around the age of 12. I started to constantly ask things like who created god or why does he send people he loves to hell. My knowledge of the world and how awful it is grew and came into play. I began asking bigger questions like "If man didn't know the difference between right and wrong until they ate from "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" then why did god punish them for eating from it? They didn't know what they were doing was wrong. Eventually I managed to deconvert by the time I was 14. I realized just how evil this god I grew up believing in and worshiping was and that he was the creation of man.
Bravo.
Hunter Nichols This is very similar to the reasons of why I became atheist
This is extremely similar to how it went for me. I'm still 14 and I can safely say that I'm pretty much deconverted. The only problem is that I must keep it a secret from everybody.
This is how it happened for me. Except I went more into the science side of it like it's physically impossible for people to have souls, or go to heaven etc.
Pizznad I feel so sorry for you! I HATE when this thing happens! And these people even say "God is love" and then they do this kind of things! I just can't understand what's going on in their tiny indoctrinated minds!
This really is the sad truth. I have a friend in school who is, with me, one of the most intelligent people in our grade. We understand complex concepts that nobody else gets, and are good friends. But he has been brainwashed his whole life to believe everything in the bible. In logical debates, it always comes down to the importance of faith to him. I don't mind him being religious, but it feels strange to have a friend that never swears or talks of anything that the bible doesn't promote. It really bothers me that such an intelligent person must give so much to a worthless cause because of indoctrination from early childhood.
+agent45267 people can break away from it. like me
+agent45267 Try to engage him in a rational and friendly debate. And tell him beforehand that it will be rational and friendly. By rational I mean no faith claims allowed and by friendly I mean that you two should remain friends after.
+agent45267 and that is why religions have to die fast. It's holding back incredible minds.
***** unfortunately it will
+Nkosi Carter-Fisher ah yes, like that poor Student from Harvard studying to become a geologist. All his life, he wanted to be that, but towards the end of his studies, he began having conflict between his faith and what he was learning. He finally came to a decision that he would throw out his education since it went against what his faith taught him. He even quote this, "if at one point all evidence in the universe was against the idea of creationism, then I'd be the first to admit it, but I'd still be a creationist since that is what the bible has told me is correct."
Yup. The cognitive dissonance still amazes me at times though. My dad is a Christian....and an aerospace engineer like a literal rocket scientist.
That's just as bad
@@bagofshitythoughts9501 what do you mean? What's just as bad?
@@CM-uq8ro your father is probably intelligent enough for such a specialization. Yet he is negligible enough to believe something without using his own intellectual capacity to question it with logic and reason. That is all I had to say.
@@bagofshitythoughts9501 gotcha. Agreed
@@CM-uq8ro well thanks for understanding I guess.
it becomes so much more ridiculous when you read the comments under this video which still try to defend the ridiculous claim by using the same arguments as always xd
Great video ...
+Bearing Fuck you, Bearing! Calling this video "great" is like calling the Petronas Towers "big", calling the Sun "warm" or calling Anita Sarkeesian "disgusting". It doesn't do the work justice!
+Foog Guckle I know you were trying to make the point in a humorous way that what +Bearing said was correct but still an under-statement.... however, I must point out that calling the sun "warm" is actually rather common. LOL!
+Foog Guckle The closer you are to the Petronas Towers, the bigger they seem. The closer you are to the sun, the warmer it seems. The more opposite to Anita Sarkeesian you are, the more disgusting she seems.
It's all a matter of perspective. I don't know what the Petronas Towers are, it's winter so the sun isn't warm for me, and I distrust anyone who calls a person "disgusting" unless that person is Paulo Coelho.
See? All a matter of perspective.
sort of like SJW types that want to control our thinking.
ridiculous claim: That girl loves you
Truth: She loves what you got and not you
Wtf man 😂😂😂
@@mohroa for real its so underrated
ridiculous claim: That guy loves you
Truth: he loves what you got and not you
james but what if you “got” an amazing personality?
Here's the thing though, men love you for the body part that is naturally a part of you. You'll probably never lose it.
Wealth and fame, however are artificial ideas that men often have to work hard for. It doesn't just exist with us.
believing doesnt have to do much with intelligence
because you can have an iq of 200 but if your brain is vulnerable to other's thoughts you will still believe in god
i was raised to believe in god but i really dont
But you pretend to believe , just in case, or to avoid personal confrontation.???? Nothing like having the courage of your own convictions.
john clewes no just my friends know not my family
i know how some people just cant face that nobody is there protecting them or rewarding them for their good deeds
i'm very solid on my belief and i'm not superstitious at all
Its not so much about believing rather than what u believe in
Michael Scofield same
Same here. After denying religious indoctrination I was able to expand my set of thought. That which seemed devilish became natural, and all that mattered know was my judgement and ethical values. It was here where I would tell my dearest friend about it, he clearly did not like it, and now, he looks down upon me and sees evil in everything I do, as the idiotic human he is. What was a good friend now became a protester and a hater, now he seems to always be in disgust when talking to me, actually, almost all the religious people I know act the same way... fools, if only they knew what I know, they would probably find peace for once.
Most religious people can see this happening in other religions & cultures. But not theirs. In fact, many Christians believe the fact that their religion is so old & so popular is proof it is true. While not using that logic about other religions.
Although, I have noticed that people from one religion often have way more respect for people following other religions, then for atheists! Part of the conditioning to conform, I guess
everyone else in comment section: debating
me: i wonder whats the name of the music he used in this video
Maybe, by Mark.Nine
You can find it here: watch?v=kgJ7YmSG0eQ
This is normal... but
its named pick one.
This channel needs twice as many subscribers as The Amazing Atheist.
+Peihan Liu I unsubbed from that awful channel a while ago. Some of his videos still haunt my recommended list though -_-
+AvatarZ funny thing is darkmatter is subbed to him lol
+AvatarZ A couple years back, he had a number of really great videos that were actually funny, but I can't say TJ has any new good ones
+pwnismaximus idk, TJ is still pretty golden, TAA channel tends to get gems from the podcast. if you haven't lately go give him a try again.
+Peihan Liu He was the first atheist comedian i have heard of that is why i subbed to him for so long, his comedy and philosophical rants were the reason why TAA is entertaining. each person has their own talents, he is comedy and ranting with charisma.
:-D from njow on, I dont use the term religion:D I kinda prefer Ridiculous Claim:-D
May the love of the spaghetti monster fill your heart with ramen!
Yehehehehe I love ramen!!!
@@yvonne3745 and ramen loves you too! May the goodness of noodles bless you forever!
Yea though I walk through the Vally of the shadow of marinara, I will fear no Alfredo. ... Hehehe
@@coffeeman8590 .....
Thank You From One Pastafarian To Another I Bless You!
I was raised as a Catholic in an all-catholic community and yet I questioned it all when I was 8.
r/iamverysmart
There's hope for humanity yet fellow free-thinker
Same. Although it took me until I was about 14. But after my parents divorce as well as years of intense psychological abuse from my classmates and my stepdad I finally started to doubt if there was something like a good god. Ironically it was my very awesome and chill religion teacher who put the final nail in the coffin, as we worked through different other religions in our classes. I asked how there can be only one truth when there are so many believes that all have valid points? He then said "There is no right or wrong way, just follow your heart" when I asked if I rather shouldn't believe in all of this he said: "God is kind and loves you regardless. He only judges you by your deeds, not your believes". And so I decided to just not believe and simply be a decent human being.
Cloud Thief because Catholicism is a sham
same
I have never believed in god. Why? Because I was raised in a nonreligious home and was told that god did not exist. Although I do truly know that god does not exist. I wonder what created anything. The earth was created by millions of stars, dust, and rock colliding into each other and forming a giant rock, but what created the rock. Where did the first ever stone come from? No one knows, and I daresay that no one will know for a very long time.
And my Skyrim profile picture has nothing to do with intellect.
yes it does, it shows you have great taste
I bet you didn't believe everything your parents told you.
Have you ever thought about why we humans could care less about the universe. After all we can't eat it or mate with it.
You should never assume there is anything. Infinite x infinite of space and time and matter means an infinite probability that everything exist.
Rocks where made from atoms, atoms where created from the protons, neutrons and electrons and as we know E=MC2 (Energy = Mass x a speed of light squared) the p+,n0 and e- where created from energy and energy always existed
As a Christian, I am starting to like these videos.
And am questioning myself.
A lot.
Its been 3 months. How you doing?
its been 2 years, mate. u good?
@@anastasima well, I'm no longer really a Christian. But I do still believe in God, or at least some form of higher power. I see him in my life a lot, but I still do wonder why such a God would allow such horrible things to happen in the world to innocent people. I suppose I would describe myself as agnostic.
@@jamesBFC1887 I always thought that if god exist, humanity must be like a child to him. A child grows as a man while facing the hardship of life, that's the end goal. That's why God let even the worst horror happen, humanity must learn to overcome it by itself.
@@jamesBFC1887 Are you a Deist? You believe in a clockwork universe now?
This is like the last channel I know of that is still debunking religion. All the others have moved on to feminism.
Feminism is a religion. It is just that barely anyone knows it yet.
That and plus there are still a few things lying around in the religious communities that they call 'arguments' that need clearing up.
Azides I hate when when people say this. Can people stop calling things that aren't religions "religions". It's like when people say atheism or evolution is one.
+peronkop TJ, Jaclyn, Armored skeptic... They are all moving away from religion, as religion is becoming less and less relevant.
Flowey The Flower How do you mean? Because it's not that people are becoming less religious, we need to wait at least an other 15 years for that to be obvious.
I was forced to attend in church even tho I didnt believe in god ... so many hours wasted because of some fictional character..
@@alicia78421 Jesus' existence as a person on this Earth is supported by virtually all historians, christian and non-christian. It's his resurrection that is so often debated about. However there is strong evidence, on top of the word of God, that the resurrection occurred. This supporting evidence of the resurrection supports the existence of a God, the one and only God, presenting God as more than just a fictional character or imaginary friend, actually quite the opposite.
@@alicia78421 yeah of course. Different first-hand accounts of Jesus:
1)Josephus was a well-connected aristocrat and military leader in Palestine who served as a commander in Galilee during the first Jewish Revolt against Rome between 66 and 70 A.D. Although Josephus was not a follower of Jesus, “he was around when the early church was getting started, so he knew people who had seen and heard Jesus,” Mykytiuk says.
2)Tacitus, roman senator and historian, mentions that Emperor Nero falsely blamed “the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius.” 64 A.D
There is obviously much more evidence supporting the existence of Jesus as a person but what about his existence as the son of God and the evidence for his resurrection?
1) Three truths accepted by virtually all historians, christian and non-christian:
-The tomb in which Jesus was buried was discovered empty by a group of women on the Sunday following the crucifixion.
-Jesus' disciples had real experiences with one whom they believed was the risen Christ.
-As a result of the preaching of these disciples, which had the resurrection at its center, the Christian church was established and grew.
The historical evidence of the empty tomb:
-earliest Jewish arguments against Christianity admit the empty tomb. In Matthew 28:11-15, there is a reference made to the Jew's attempt to refute Christianity be saying that the disciples stole the body. This is significant because it shows that the Jews did not deny the empty tomb. The Jewish leaders opposed Christianity so acknowledging the empty tomb would not be in their favor.
-the resurrection was preached in the same city where Jesus had been buried shortly before. Jesus' disciples did not go to some obscure place where no one had heard of Jesus to begin preaching about the resurrection, but instead began preaching in Jerusalem, the very city where Jesus had died and been buried. They could not have done this if Jesus was still in his tomb--no one would have believed them.
-The allegation that someone had stolen the body is an implicit admission that the tomb was empty. The fact that Jesus’ opponents conceded the vacancy of the tomb is strong evidence in the eyes of historians.
2) the evidence of the resurrection of Christ: A method commonly used today to determine the historicity of an event is "inference to the best explanation." William Lane Craig describes this as an approach where we "begin with the evidence available to us and then infer what would, if true, provide the best explanation of that evidence." In other words, we ought to accept an event as historical if it gives the best explanation for the evidence surrounding it.
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@@alicia78421 Okay thank you for looking into it. What science do u think disproves the bible?
I think the entire Old Testament go the science _pretty_ wrong.
can you be specific? @@mevy395
I went into the "newest first" comment section expecting a war zone. What I got was just that 😅
Doing the same lol
Suddenly it feels good to be an atheist
Hopefully "You should be respected for your beleifs is the message that everyone is getting", and not Atheist is the smart way. I'm not saying Atheism is wrong btw I just mean bith sides empathize with eachother
@@patrickm.39 Because when you stop believing the truth remains.
@@lm6036and obviously you're privy to the truth.
I myself as a Christian have always seen Atheistism as one system of belief out of many
_Is it right or wrong?_ *Maybe*
_Is it wrong to or not believe in it?_ *No*
_Is it wrong to respectfully disagree or agree with it?_ *No*
_Is it okay to feel superior due to your system of belief?_ *No*
_Is it right to force any system of belief on someone?_ *No*
_Is it right to assume someone's intelligence or morality based on their system of belief?_ *Definitely Not*
Just respect other people's way of belief and agree to disagree, I'm not going to hate you cause you are Islamic, Atheist, ect. so long as you aren't an asshole and try to force me into it or say that I'm complete moron and or a heartless monster for my system of belief
*TL;DR*
_Just respect other peoples way of belief regardless of your own belief system and stop trying to prove something that can't be proven and _*_this goes for all systems of belief_*
Same
The comment section here is a gold mine.
Finite Wehosh. KNOWLEDGE 😂
It's not a gold mine it's a network of them
@Finite Wehosh - this is a very big gold mine, with 27,000 comments this is too much gold for any one person to handle, this is too much gold for me to cash in, ... i enjoyed the video though it was very thought provoking. iv known about Darkmatter2525 for a few years now, i had no idea he had become this popular, popular enough for over 27,000 comments. this video is promoting people to stop believing in religion.. it calls religion a ridiculous claim.. i dont agree with this , as a american im taught we have freedom of religion we should be aloud to believe in religion at are own discretion. but i still found the video to be interesting. but yeah it is a gold mine of comments none the less.
Finite Wehosh I know lol
Yeah full of weak minded people
Ain't this how North Korea works?
Same method
Yes
Yep same copy and paste
This can just as easily be applied to zodiac signs, I mean how is that still popular?
It is bcs zodiac culture has a kind of scientific basic. It is like a huge database maintained over 100 s of years. It recognizes patterns and gives outputs with a possibility. All the other fairy tales around it are just icing on the cake
Damn i thought u only comment on anime vids
Not just zodiac signs, This goes to every fictions that Humans sadly believe.
best video ever explaining what religion is
Agreed.
It really is. I don't understand why people can't see it. Even when it's being explained like this they back up their claims with the same arguments that never really meant anything because it isn't their argument it's the one that has been forced on them for years. Just like the video explained.
I minor in Public relationship in college, in PR, you study a lot about brain washing techniques. The type of technique they spoke of within the video is call "response shaping process" the idea is to persuade a person to a distorted point of view, when they have limited or no understanding towards the situation. The idea is that, when a person have a limited or no understanding towards a situation, it is easier to persuade them to a distorted point of view, because they don't have the fact necessary to contradict what they are been persuaded to believe in. Response Shaping process, is more effective towards children, mostly because, children have a no real understanding towards anything.
Lol
Ikr
I was exaggerating a bit. I was born into a Christian family in a Christian community, my mum was atheist however she hid that fact and got annoyed when I lost my faith because I didn't believe that the bible made sense.
I am serious when I say; good for you man.
+ThePieguy321's channel *clap* *clap*
+ThePieguy321's channel you're totally trolling dude.
+Mr Fresh Sauce I used to be a cultural catholic (like half of the population of this country, I think).
+ThePieguy321's channel Mistakes are made.
Religion: the willing suspension of intelligence.
Actually, the message of this video was the opposite
Willful*
Religon: What Prevents People From Being Evil.
@@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals Common Sense: What prevents people from giving religion the credit it doesn't deserve.
@@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals do you know how many wars have happened just because of religion
You mean, the ridiculous claim that a book, written by fallible humans and presented as fact for the source was divine, and should be trusted and followed word for word?
15-year old ex-Christian here. I was never really religious, but it was only a year ago when I actually stopped believing. You're videos are great! Sad thing is, I kept it from my parents, as they are religious. Any suggestions?
+FearMrMeep > Any suggestions?
you're != your
+FearMrMeep It depends on how extreme your parents are. If they are very extreme, they're going to need some nudging. Take it one milimetre at a time, then, and just talk to them about small things. Like, "Why does the snake in the bible have to be so evil?", or "Person XYZ is atheist and does good thing ABC, does that mean atheism is good?", or something.
Read a few things on rhetorics, and try to find people who share your view and whom you can rely on if your parents freak completely. Safety nets are incredibly important, and I assure you, you don't want to walk the rope before you can see yours.
I think most people, even extreme people, can be nudged into the right direction over time - that is, for people who feel inclined to misunderstand, the direction that allows them to keep their beliefs while still accepting the people close to them, especially people who depend on them. You will need patience, of course, and work and effort, but it can happen.
If you don't know how extreme they are, try gently nudging it out of them. Ask a few innocent questions, like the one about the good person who is an atheist. Try to find a family member who either agrees with you or still accepts you, and whom you can rely on for support, either in a discussion or in the worst case scenario.
Parents, sadly, often fall prey to the idea that their children don't have the capacity to make decisions for themselves. Having another adult present who supports the child might help, unless it goes down the "Are you criticising my parenting?!"-hill.
Depending on what particular branch of religion they cling to, it might also help to gather important figures of that branch who said tolerant things about non-believers.
i suggest to talk not at all.
it is pointless, old people can not be deconverted.
by the way, it is easier to become an atheist in an _extreme_ religious environment, because it highlights the stupidity of the concept, while _moderate_ religion is more dangerous, because it hides stupidity and tends to sooth and kill more brains.
+FearMrMeep Tell them simple and straight.
After you've told them, you've done everything you are obligated to do as an honest family member. You are obligated to do nothing else, and should not put that weight on yourself needlessly.
Simply put; tell them true and straight what you believe, maybe throw in a reason, because they will ask you why anyways at least once, and then simply stop giving a fuck about their opinion in so far as whether they accept you or not.
If they don't accept you because of a different belief, they're assholes. That's harsh I know, but it's the truest thing you'll ever hear, and I'm not going to whitewash it for you.
If they accept you, put it behind you, research in your own time, don't impose it on them if they are unwilling to debate with you about it, though you may be surprised to find one or more members in your close or distant family who shares similar sentiments about religion.
Protip: Enjoy life, be a good person, fulfill your desires. You've got one life, at least this is the only life we can confirm you have, thus you might as well treat it as if it is your only one. Don't die with regrets.
+FearMrMeep
Be careful. Do not let them know until after you've moved out. Don't take the risk of telling them too early. You don't want to end up homeless.
I guess religion works in delirious ways.
LOL.
Lol, anyone know the christian rock group delirious? obviously part of the religion I left but they were the first band I saw in concert and some of the stuff is decent
H20 delirious