Satechi Mac mini M4 Stand & Hub Hands On! - CES 2025

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  • @satechi
    @satechi 5 дней назад +2

    Thanks for stopping by! 🙌

  • @michaelfox6820
    @michaelfox6820 12 дней назад +14

    I really like the cut-off for the start button! I like the overall design, too. It's unfortunate that they won't be making two versions; one with a faster SSD slot.

  • @rivers8517
    @rivers8517 10 дней назад +2

    The Satechi hub looks awesome. This video alone made me subscribe your your channel. I put in to be notified when the hub arrvies.

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  10 дней назад

      Thanks for the view and the sub! 🙏🏽

  • @denisprivate9963
    @denisprivate9963 11 дней назад +13

    I was a bit underwhelmed by this. For a new product, I expected a TB4/TB5 hub instead of old tech. I'll wait for Caldigit.

    • @donfrankie
      @donfrankie 8 дней назад

      Hopefully they will release a TB5 version too.

  • @ianforber
    @ianforber 11 дней назад +8

    Nice design but losing a thunderbolt port is a pain. I’d prefer if they gave us one back. I wonder if locating the SSD at the back is to avoid messing up the WiFi signal but also prevents adding in ports at the back? I think I’ll wait for the 40Gb/s version. I may not need that speed now but I’d rather have it for potential future usage.

  • @Gaithersteve
    @Gaithersteve 11 дней назад +10

    I listened primarily to see if they had solved the WiFi issue but you didn’t test that. I’m waiting for a version that has solved the WiFi issue and has a TB port.

    • @martinandreasson5504
      @martinandreasson5504 2 дня назад

      Same here, im guessing they did not since the issue is seemingly "new" . Not much around on the subject still. So guess im waiting for their next model in a year or so :P

  • @DavidNiedbala
    @DavidNiedbala 11 дней назад +5

    I purchased the first M4 Mac mini dock on Amazon buy some Chinese company and it completely blocks out my Wi-Fi. After discovering this and doing some test, I found that just flipping the Mac mini upside down is the best option. Can you confirm that the Wi-Fi does not get blocked like this one?

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  6 дней назад +1

      Satechi confirmed that this hub will not block the WiFi, but that I will need to test further once it’s released.

  • @aaron6822
    @aaron6822 11 дней назад +3

    so its has a nvme slot but it has a usb controller? no thunderbolt?

  • @Hi-xs7wm
    @Hi-xs7wm 9 дней назад

    Great video !

  • @svenisaksson3970
    @svenisaksson3970 11 дней назад +23

    There is one crucial issue with all hubs that are placed near (especially beneath) the Mac Mini, that you don't mention. Does it mess with (or even kill) the Mac Mini's WiFi?

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  10 дней назад +5

      I was told by a Satechi rep that the hub should not have this problem but won’t know for sure until it’s released.

  • @LandmanEDC
    @LandmanEDC 10 дней назад

    Can’t wait to get my hands on the Satechi hub. Going to make my M4 Mini the perfect Plex and retro gaming machine!

  • @whiskeyblood7258
    @whiskeyblood7258 2 дня назад +1

    I wish there was some ports in the back.

  • @Halo9K
    @Halo9K 4 дня назад

    I've already ordered the hub from RayCue which has ports on the front and rear plus support for NVMe up to 8TB.

  • @tomsun3159
    @tomsun3159 12 дней назад +5

    Only issue you are sacrificing a TB4/5 port for a 10 GB-Hub, yes there is a TB-Hub but there you loose ALL your Front Connections, so its just a fancy external NVME-housing. Satechi bring out the device with all the ports of the 10 Gb version in the TB version perhaps in TB5 (with card reader and front USBs)

    • @df6806
      @df6806 11 дней назад

      Even Orico minilink promises 40gbps data link with mac mini m4.

  • @MasterMind187b
    @MasterMind187b 12 дней назад +1

    Did the fix the wlan Bug from the previous Modell?

  • @g3user1usa
    @g3user1usa 11 дней назад +2

    Some people make a big stink about the power button placement like it's the worst thing possible.
    I have a 2018 Mac mini that I have been using for about five years. Do you know how many times I have used the power switch? Maybe twice. My Mac mini has been running nonstop 24/7/365 for all those years except to upgrade the OS or security patches when available.
    Why should anyone complain about the location of a power switch especially when you can reboot or shut down using the Finder. The Mac mini seems to be bullet-proof.

    • @Hi-xs7wm
      @Hi-xs7wm 9 дней назад

      Very interesting.Thank you !

  • @thomaspaaruppedersen6781
    @thomaspaaruppedersen6781 12 дней назад +5

    I really enjoyed this video and style.
    I'd also like to complement you tone of voice and 'level of excitement'. A lot of reviewers talk so excitedly that it strains my ears.
    This was to the point, informative and calm. Well done!

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  11 дней назад

      Appreciate the view and feedback! Helps me gauge if I’m on the right path so thank you 🙏🏽

  • @jimrogers7425
    @jimrogers7425 5 дней назад

    Currently available at the same price is the RayCue hub with more ports. I’m not sure if I care about the power switch issue since you can ‘sleep’ your Mac when away from the office. Nice video… good to see more viable options. The world of computing has become very interesting now. The M4 Mac Mini now has me considering buying a new Mac for the first time ever!

  • @trickiejohn
    @trickiejohn 11 дней назад

    If you have older USB bit and bobs to connect it is great. It’s not for me due to no USB slots added, I would like 3, 1 to replace the lost connection with the Mac and 2 extra.

  • @AlienFactor
    @AlienFactor 4 дня назад

    I ve been waiting for spring time I wanna get this one rather than the other companies that already came out with a docking station for the ac mini m4

  • @robesveldt
    @robesveldt 11 дней назад +20

    I'll wait for a thunderbolt 5 version.

  • @DavGreg
    @DavGreg 9 дней назад

    Very useful report. My use tilts more to Music and I have no need for a camera card reader- waste of space for me. The Thunderbolt on the back is no big deal if you use the Apple Studio Display which adds more ports.
    I have had the previous version of this and used the memory card slot for HD backup.

  • @captbeardy
    @captbeardy 12 дней назад +22

    The lack of extra TB ports is a no from me.

    • @charminbaer2323
      @charminbaer2323 11 дней назад

      Main reason I never got the Apple Studio Display. My old Thunderbolt Display had at least one Thunderbolt port where I could daisychain other devices from. The newer Apple Studio Display doesn't have that just USB-C ports. I ended getting a Samsung 34" ultra wide monitor with Thunderbolt 4. Not as pretty as the Apple display, but more functional, and bigger display. (not 5K though)

    • @hms350
      @hms350 10 дней назад

      www.youtube.com/@rorobeckley
      Quality video, do think you should have pointed out the connection from the Mac mini to the Satechi as only USB (assume 3.2 or 4). Agree with @captbeardy and exactly what I was thinking. I would get this if Thunderbolt 5, only USB connection from Mac mini to device is a bummer. Do realize that for many users the USB connection would be fine and the price of $99 is reasonable. Three USB A ports probably one or 2 more than needed as having a few USB A to USB C adapters is a no brainer these days.

  • @CarlRyds
    @CarlRyds 6 дней назад

    I have an M1 Mac Mini wth with a Satchi Hub, so I've been waiting for them to release a new one before I upgrade to the M4.

  • @BlaqViper
    @BlaqViper День назад

    Finding the RayCue hub for the M4 Mac Mini to be a better value with more USB-C ports for the same price.

  • @andymourtz
    @andymourtz 12 дней назад +2

    I was waiting for Satechi HUB bus as i see RayCue HUB gives more flexibility for about the same price. I wish they came out with 2 options ...

    • @trickiejohn
      @trickiejohn 11 дней назад

      The RayCue hub has Wi-Fi issues slowing through put, including their latest version, albeit less so.

    • @elmarcentral
      @elmarcentral 11 дней назад

      ​@@trickiejohnwhere did you hear this info? From what I've heard it doesn't.

  • @mywwwow
    @mywwwow 10 дней назад

    Thank you very much for your update - I do like it and never thought about this stu.. power on/off button discussions 😂
    There are really problems to discuss and better to change on this earth 😢😢😢😢

  • @HoundDogMech
    @HoundDogMech 11 дней назад

    My M4 is inverted (Upside down & not because of the Switch). Heat rises and Inverting it I think (If it ever gets hot) is better for Heat Disipation. and really the Machine doesn't know the Differance. I also have the Back to the right (my cables come in from the right) and this makes the ON/Off lite difficult to see from my recliner. I also run it throgh a Switch because I still use/edit with my ASUS laptop. OH! my monitors are 4K UHDTVs 43" & 50" with a ViZio SB3651-E6 5.1 Sound Bar. Yes I do mix 5.1 Surround with Davinci Resolve.

  • @LuisJimenez-rq6wk
    @LuisJimenez-rq6wk 12 дней назад

    Thanks for the info. I've read in some videos, and saw some tests, that putting any device on the top or below the Mac Mini, the wi-fi signal becomes slower. So this is important for those who use this kind of connection. In my opinion, a hub it's a better solution. There are so many aesthetical solutions.
    Greetings!

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  12 дней назад +1

      Thanks for watching! I was told by Satechi their hub was designed to negate this issue but won’t know for sure until real world tests.

  • @therkyn
    @therkyn 11 дней назад

    Lack of usb4 for the nvme was a dumb choice. Removes it from contention. Even if not a substitute drive, nvme suggests you want faster speed.

  • @AppleBman
    @AppleBman 8 дней назад

    Sweet! I’ll buy one - assuming the WiFi issue is fixed. I’ll use its internal SSD for Time Machine.

  • @woom3
    @woom3 9 дней назад

    Also unlike the mac mini m1 ,the m4 does not have Individual controllers for the 5 usb-c ports, it might be a problem with the hub.

  • @oo0Spyder0oo
    @oo0Spyder0oo 11 дней назад

    What about the wifi issues these hubs have caused with the Mac minis? Drops in speed when they are stacked together. Not very thorough test.

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  11 дней назад

      A Satechi rep told me it was also designed to negate this issue, but I won’t be able to assess this for sure until it’s released.

  • @prius9253
    @prius9253 10 дней назад

    Excellent review of hub terminology. Would like to have info re potential wifi issues, though. Otherwise, you have my subscription!

  • @ThirdEyePix
    @ThirdEyePix 12 дней назад

    An excellent review! Very comprehensive. But as a consequence it tells me that this stand/hub is definitely not suitable for my uses which need at least TB4/40GBps connectivity and you are the first reviewer of all the Mac mini M4 Stands currently in the market to cover all these considerations.
    I only ever Shut Down my Mac mini M4 Pro when away from home for more than one night. I have a Qwiizlab Aluminium Stand (no hub) on order which offers power switch access.

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  11 дней назад +1

      Appreciate you watching! Yeah, the goal is to always share as much info on a product as possible for people to make the best decision for their use case.

  • @tomscott4438
    @tomscott4438 11 дней назад +1

    The only USB-A devices I have are old flash drives, and a $20 adapter makes those useable if I still want to use them. (I don't) Slow SSD enclosure and losing a Thunderbolt port for 3 inferior ports makes no sense. I was initially excited to see this, but now that I know the details, I'm not. This is a placeholder until version two, and I can wait.

  • @Dill575
    @Dill575 11 дней назад

    Excellent review. Thanks.

  • @sdaeley17
    @sdaeley17 8 дней назад

    Hi Royce! I love your vids, and I especially love your Marvel Spidey Gaming Chair! Where did you get it? Are you still liking it?

  • @krazywabbit
    @krazywabbit 11 дней назад +1

    Appreciate you saying it’s fast enough. Those who need faster, aren’t here complaining. Nice review. Stay safe.

  • @kentao4
    @kentao4 10 дней назад

    This is a great option but not giving back a usbc port kills this in my book. They could’ve done that can kept the price reasonable. Not many usba things I use outside of an old thumb drive. I’ll look if and when they come with a thunderbolt version with 2 or 3 ports and ONE usb a.

  • @weinbergfahrer4048
    @weinbergfahrer4048 11 дней назад +3

    Thanks for your review! Glad Satechi has come out with this well thought out product and at a fair price point!
    Here my 2ct on that subject: I bought the M1 Mac mini a year after its release, and later bought a Satechi Stand and Hub, to use it for Time Machine with a 1 TB Transcend SATA-SSD inside. This works so perfectly (SSD speed is unimportant for this use), so that I'm doubtful if I should be upgrading. However, the M4 Mac mini plus this new Stand & Hub look sooo tempting... :)
    As for the SSD speed: I'd rather have a second external SSD in an enclosure for safety reasons, and for "normal use" I'd go for capacity rather than speed.

  • @Wolfen6
    @Wolfen6 9 дней назад

    Why would they build something with Gen 2 ports/slots? When they make one with TB5/Gen 4 tech, I'll buy.

  • @myshowpodcast
    @myshowpodcast 12 дней назад

    So for those people who purchased the base model and want to go with an external boot up option; this isn't the way to go?

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  12 дней назад +3

      I personally wouldn’t as I’d want my external boot drive’s speed to match the internal drive. I’d utilize it more like a discreet external drive for files or editing. But I know some people have done so with 10Gbps drives with no complaints. But I just wouldn’t personally recommend.

    • @NurmYokai
      @NurmYokai 12 дней назад

      Probably. But this M4 hub has three USB ports, while older M2 Mac Mini hub has four USB ports.
      Wonder if these hubs can be daisy-chained?

    • @doubledark2
      @doubledark2 12 дней назад +1

      one of my son's completed a double degree at uni (engineering) using a USB2 boot drive. My image processing work computer for many years used a external FW800 hdd. My wife uses an M2 mini with the home folder on a TB-1 external SSD. Has never said a word about speed. Think about that before you follow the crowd. This has an M4 chip, it's going to be fast, even with that transfer speed.

    • @myshowpodcast
      @myshowpodcast 11 дней назад

      @@doubledark2 DAAAAANG! I haven't heard about fire wire in a HOT MINUTE! Brings back memories! LOL

    • @doubledark2
      @doubledark2 10 дней назад

      @ you don’t know what was happening in our lives at that stage but you saw fit to respond and in a condescending tone. A true indicator of the person you are. My point was all the hype about what people “need” prays on insecurity and most show confirmation bias. Apple have spent a lot of effort analyzing what the market needs. They don’t release anything that won’t be usable out of the box. Their customers need to simply work out which market they fall into instead of letting an “influencer” put doubt into their decision.

  • @martinandreasson5504
    @martinandreasson5504 2 дня назад

    Looks great, but if they have not fixed the Wifi issue its unusable. So waiting for a video where that is tested properly....

  • @neilquinn
    @neilquinn 10 дней назад

    Very cool but the pricing on these always end up making them not really worth it vs just buying more storage. If I'm going to pay $300 for an hub/adapter and then another $400 for 4tb of SSD storage I'd rather just have it all cleanly onboard a mac mini. Best compromise now seems to be a cheap $40 thunderbolt 4 NVME enclosure.

  • @getstew
    @getstew 4 часа назад

    Or.. just get Thunderbolt 4 enclosure and get speeds faster than the M4's internals. 🙂

  • @tedz2000
    @tedz2000 9 дней назад

    Need 40gbs on that ssd. Next year satachi…..

  • @michi9816
    @michi9816 9 дней назад

    1200 MB / s and 400 EUR for 4 TB is not that bad. Apple offers 2 TB for 690. a MacMini with 16 GB RAM and a 512 GB SSD goes for 930 + 400 = 1330 EUR. you still have 2 x thunderbolt and HDMI and 2 x USB 4 ports, which gives you enough flexibility for monitors and other peripherals. not losing TB or enjoining the full speed of the SSD drive, would be an improvement. Might the next hardware in a few years.

  • @SunCho_212
    @SunCho_212 11 дней назад +1

    Satechi and ~35 other "companies" all only use one manufacturer. They all look alike and they all have an issue with WIFI blockage.

  • @larsltj
    @larsltj 12 дней назад

    Clever cut-out for the power button, but I would rather go with the Orico dual-m2 nvme with 40gbit.

    • @larsltj
      @larsltj 7 дней назад

      I got the Orico M47P model with dual NVME 40gbit yesterday. While specs are good on paper, the device is surprisingly noisy. A real disappointment. I wouldn't recommend it! 😢

  • @freshkisimotheshow
    @freshkisimotheshow 12 дней назад +1

    great video, but cant believe they still using USB-A even if is 10gps.

  • @jor_pat
    @jor_pat 11 дней назад

    I double taped my m4 mac mini on it's side so the button is more accesible lol

  • @ILoveBouncies
    @ILoveBouncies 12 дней назад +1

    Clear, helpful content. Going to have to subscribe for that, thanks!

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  12 дней назад

      Appreciate it! 🙌🏽

    • @HenryJones-u8t
      @HenryJones-u8t 11 дней назад

      @@rorobeckley I am disabled, Power button M4 gives me problems.

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  11 дней назад

      @@HenryJones-u8t Got it! What type of setup would you prefer or like to see?

    • @HenryJones-u8t
      @HenryJones-u8t 11 дней назад

      @ I think that the Satechi M4 hub is the best solution. What most people don't know is that Silicon Macs have a "startup security utility" in Recovery mode.

  • @Doc-b2m
    @Doc-b2m 10 дней назад

    I think 10Gbit is to slow for the SSD. Old standard! 20 is more state of the art.

  • @BKLYNXVIDEO
    @BKLYNXVIDEO 10 дней назад +1

    Why don't these companies but all the ports on the back, instead of the front. Put the SD card on from and one USB C, and the rest on back. on my desk its ugly and inconvenient to have hard drives and cables coming out the front

  • @keenobservations3050
    @keenobservations3050 12 дней назад

    If they make a pro version I’m on it

  • @spytsiTube
    @spytsiTube 12 дней назад +3

    So, where's the microSD port?

    • @watschelfue
      @watschelfue 15 часов назад

      This is exactly my problem… where it’s it? The old Mac Mini had it. Why this one not??

  • @davidlawless9934
    @davidlawless9934 6 дней назад

    Love the design, but the 4TB SSD limitation makes it useless to me. Also wish it connected via at least USB-4. Yes, I realize that would raise the price… For 2025, it has too many USB-A ports (I only have one USB-A device). I have a dream that one day I’ll be able to have my entire home account on one SSD and the device looks like it is integrated into the Mac mini…

  • @sharpsetify
    @sharpsetify 7 дней назад

    Who needs a 2.0 port.??

  • @pc_gaijin
    @pc_gaijin 11 дней назад

    they could have at least put an HDMI port on the back.

  • @zip7806
    @zip7806 4 дня назад

    Mac mini power button is on the Top. If Anyone is smart enough to know about Basic Thermal Dynamics and WiFi Antennas the Black Side goes Face Up. Heat Rises and Cold Air sinks. Radio Waves Bounce off your Desk and Hard surfaces. Flip it over and Stop Complaining People.

  • @moeskido
    @moeskido 11 дней назад

    This is a pretty design for a consumer device, but I consider it a waste of a TB4 or 5 port for anyone who bought the mini M4 Pro. Too bad Satechi doesn't offer a TB-hub version of this.

  • @BrentSmithline
    @BrentSmithline 11 дней назад

    Hope this hub does not have WiFi issues like other hubs have had. Thing is that would not be an issue for me as I am a hardwired at any cost Ethernet person as PhD Robert Metcalfe "The Father of Ethernet" (inside joke) would always tell me hardwire is truly, the best way to go.

  • @AnthonioChen
    @AnthonioChen 9 дней назад +2

    I'm not going to buy another wifi/bluetooth jammer from Satechi again. What a novice issue.

  • @llothar68
    @llothar68 6 дней назад

    This guys should have put a 3,5" disk and 2 NVMe in it for all storage problems. A 18TB for data hoarders and a few more even with 20GBit (TB3) it would be enough.
    But they prefer the foolish mass that don't know and buy 10GBit 10. year old technology to a high price because it looks cool.

  • @LoopholeGopher
    @LoopholeGopher День назад

    It's too bad they ruined like 90% of this docks functionality from the original prototype. Sure they added a cutout for the button, but now now second monitor or ports on the back (the single most important part of a hub... hiding my cables)

  • @stefpix
    @stefpix 11 дней назад

    It should be Thunderbolt for that price. Too many USB-A ports. I already have cheap USB hubs with SD card readers.

    • @TecraX2
      @TecraX2 6 дней назад

      For $99?!? This product is obviously intended for those who need USB-A ports, but it would be great if they also made a TB version, preferably adding some USB-A ports at the back, and at least add one USB-C port in the front!

    • @stefpix
      @stefpix 6 дней назад

      @@TecraX2 USB C to USB A and viceversa adapters can be found 3 for $7...

    • @TecraX2
      @TecraX2 6 дней назад

      @ Yeah, I have one from Satechi that provides a USB-C port for devices that only has USB-A, and this conversion works great with a firm/secure fit. Not sure if converting USB-C into the larger USB-A works equally seamless, especially on devices with multiple USB-C ports close together...

    • @stefpix
      @stefpix 5 дней назад

      @@TecraX2 I can use a USB A to USB C adapter on my old cables, and insert them without any issues to my Mac Mini M4 and on my M1 iMac. They are secure and slim, so no issues about the USB ports being close together.

  • @josephnorris4095
    @josephnorris4095 11 дней назад

    Although I appreciate the effort being put in here, based upon my terrible experience with the M2 hub on my M4 Pro Mac Mini, I will pass. Basically, constant disconnects and drive disconnects.

  • @elmarcentral
    @elmarcentral 12 дней назад +2

    The ports need to be on the back side. Needs an audio jack and USB C too.

  • @jsurratt895
    @jsurratt895 11 дней назад +1

    no thunderbolt 4 or 5. nope

    •  11 дней назад

      The Mac Mini itself have them.

  • @yogajoeguy
    @yogajoeguy 6 дней назад

    Just wait until Apple gets rid of the power button altogether.
    Just like their cell phones with no more removable batteries. They want to listen all the time

  • @markcambodia
    @markcambodia 5 дней назад

    No micro SD and no audio. Raycue is better.

  • @charminbaer2323
    @charminbaer2323 11 дней назад

    Can we let USB-A die already?? How long are we gonna drag that legacy port around. It's 2025 and we STILL have companies making devices with Micro USB as well.

    • @TecraX2
      @TecraX2 6 дней назад

      Fine by me as long as you volunteer to replace every USB-A connector (both Male and Female) on EVERY device in the entire world for FREE... BTW, do you think you can have it all done by Monday?!?

  • @iamfatness
    @iamfatness 11 дней назад

    You just said the same thing. Multiply bits by 8 and you have bytes. You wasted several minutes explaining the same thing.

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  11 дней назад

      I hear you but most people, including myself, check out mentally when it’s explained that way.

  • @chrischambless
    @chrischambless 12 дней назад +2

    Hard pass

  • @chocolatetie96
    @chocolatetie96 10 дней назад

    Y’all lost me at 10gbps

  • @Mary-Poppins
    @Mary-Poppins 11 дней назад +1

    USB-A in 2025?!? 😅

  • @NWMT
    @NWMT 11 дней назад

    Good info. May be better to reduce your own amount of “face time” to the viewer and do more voice overs and product focus. Since we all get an opinion, content creators seem to be frustrated TV people who think they need to be the main focus of the content more than the product. Having content creators’ faces all up front & center in my grille turns my viewing interest way down, or off. I usually scroll past much of seeing faces because there’s no need for those that do this to make sure we see what you look like in the majority of vids. Just one viewer’s input. Thx.

  • @FujiXH1
    @FujiXH1 10 дней назад

    shitty 10 Gbit on name drive lol. buy an Ferrari to slow down in the shoolzone

  • @endofexistence
    @endofexistence 8 дней назад

    Slow drive interface. No thanks.

  • @utube9487
    @utube9487 7 дней назад

    10Gbps junk

  • @zavatone
    @zavatone 7 дней назад

    Please stop using clickbait garbage arrows in your thumbnails.

    • @rorobeckley
      @rorobeckley  7 дней назад

      It’s only clickbait if I’m not actually talking about what the arrow is pointing at 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @NomadicBloke1
    @NomadicBloke1 11 дней назад

    this is the worst in the mac mini hub m4 category

  • @paullebon323
    @paullebon323 11 дней назад

    Without thunderbolt 5, it's garbage.