I bought a brand new 03 TD4 in the UK and this year in New Zealand where I have lived for the last 18 years I have just bought a 3 door V6 03 and loving it. They are just a great all round good driver car. I bought mine to tow a off roader around and it tows @ my 1600Kgs trailer/buggy combo just perfectly, great and informative review.
Glad you enjoyed the review! I would much prefer the V6 personally (which I think is obvious), especially as I already own a car with the 2.0 version of that engine.
@@Discoworx year of trouble free motoring and it passed its annual inspection without a drama, I did buy a new battery for it however the last owner had put a very underpowered CCA one in. good luck with your purchase
Excellent Review Sir, I nearly bought one of these back in 2016... I can confirm the leather gear lever and gear display are in my 75! I agree the M47 does sound a bit tractor like but realible, just a faff to change a air filter! But easy enough to service. I think the chunky buttons by the instrument display could be like the Citroen BX
That is right, sir, I thought that the automatic gear lever was similar to the one in a 75. I wasn't quite in my right frame of mind on the day, sir, but it drove OK, the V6 would have been my preference of course...
Thanks Matt!....err Mr Lloyd for the video, like I think I mentioned before I had a 1.8 K series XEi “estate”, very comfortable and practical, I loved mine except it was a tad thirsty and lacking power I found, I think the TD4 is probably the best one to go for power and economy, but the petrol ones for smoothness and quietness. The back door feels heavier obviously because of the spare wheel on the back door and that lockable compartment is proper handy for tools etc and a jack, but I’m sure Land Rover offered a picnic table for that space?? It wasn’t there in mine. Yes the prop had been removed on mine, I hadn’t realised this when I bought it but it was pointed out to me later to my dismay and extra cost to my insurance as they regarded the Prop delete as a “Mod”, this shoved my insurance well over what I was prepared to pay so the “Hippo” was sold on.
I don't know whether there was a picnic table, certainly the Mark I and Mark II Honda CR-Vs had them. There certainly are a lot of storage spaces. Did you just recommend the forbidden fuel over the petrol version, sir? The prop shaft removal was very common, even over ten years ago.... It was a shame that they put the insurance up because of it!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes I may ha ve been mixing up with the Honda CRV. I’d certainly have another Freelander, very versatile vehicle, but I’m not sure I could afford the MPG figures and servicing costs of the KV6, so I may go for another 1.8. Mention Forbidden fuel sir, would I do such a thing on this channel? 🤔😁
I believe the Rover 600 had a similar Instrument Cowell with the buttons on the side of it. the dials are the same as a rover 25 too but with different graphics on them.
You are right, sir, the style could well be similar to the old Rover 600, as they were still in production at the same time as the Freelander's launch.
Sir, I mentioned to you a while ago that I had a TD4, in my defence I did suggest reviewing the V6, and said how much I enjoyed it. Thank you so much for another great video.
The thing is, sir, I just woke up one morning and believed I was Mr Richardson. My preferences suddenly changed, and I even started wearing one of his hats. Such things tend to happen spontaneously, and then I come back to my senses, after which it is all too late to correct the mistakes of the past.
I remember these being very popular from launch, as you rightly say the designers got the styling bang on point with the Freelander. These may well have been very capable off road as any Land Rover should be but they were the perfect vehicle for people who just didn't need a 4x4 as big as the Discovery. I believe many of these ended up being 2WD in their old age due to issues with the viscose coupling.
That's right, sir, a lot of them have ended up as two wheel drive only due to the cost of replacing that prop shaft. They still are very capable off road, certainly one of the reasons why this has ended up with some fairly chunky tyres. They are a very neat design indeed.
Great video and reflections! In New Zealand there was a group of people that wrote a publication - and later put up a website - on car buying called The Dog and Lemon Guide. They pan-seared the Freelander... The design and layout was ahead of its time though!
Ah yes, dogs and lemons, both pejorative terms for bad cars. It's much more relevant to think of this as a modern classic these days, a surprising number seem to be still around over here, in spite of the issues.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting That speaks volumes about how Land Rover is a part of life for many people in the UK! They have also sold well in New Zealand, even with competition from the Japanese off-roaders over the years.
I own a 52 plate 1.8 Serengeti 3door. Always wanted one since launch. At launch I had a rr classic and an 88 series 3, for all the hate freelanders get, it's better than the rr and s3 by a country mile. I had hgf not due to gasket, but failed waterpump. And after taking out the 2 sunroofs and hardback I got open top motoring (sortof) and my kids love driving it 👍
I wasn't in my right mind when I drove this, of course, but the K-Series petrols I certainly can discuss having owned three K-Series engined cars myself. Water pump failure is surprisingly common amongst people with this engine these days, it seems. There isn't anything on the market quite like the three door Freelander any more.
Heritage classification now from Land Rover, I have 2006 facelift HSE 2505kg GVW, 201000 miles on the clock had it from 60000 miles, beautiful. Going up in price now collectable.
Had an auto Td4 back in the day…very underrated (especially in the snow) and well designed family car and not at all pretentious. Really enjoyed owning it…when it was working…! I replaced it with a Freelander 2 - again another really underrated car in my opinion. I would have both again, if I could find a good one!
I had a 2003MY 2 door ES. What a quirky but fantastic car. Great to drive and I still see loads of them around her in Oxfordshire. I subsequently had two FL 2s and now have a Range Rover Evoque. All very good and very reliable cars.
Haven't driven many Land Rovers at all. I think that this and the 1998 Freelander I drove in 2010 are the only ones, so I really don't know any awful lot about them. I would like to try a V6 Mark I Freelander, but they are quite rare.
Another enjoyable video. Freelanders are really coming in to their own now. A lot are being roll caged and lightly modified for production class in off road rally's.
£400 for a 2003 1.8 K series Masai Mara... 7 1/2 years ago. It has never cost that much per year in repairs. 119,000 miles on it's original clutch, which cost me £395 to get replaced.
Kalamari. Cannot remember if faux or real leather and half alcantara. I liked these. To sell. Though 2005-2018 the market didn’t. HSE and Auto Derv did sell. OK ish. I stopped even trying to own another once Freelander2 was a cheap car. Freelander2 just an awesome car. And FreeL original , well. Very very very poor. Still good looking just woeful. Even Auto Derv TD4 very so so. The K series with cheap factory gaskets just feel nasty drive. That’s before you have to skim so heads. All this said they look good still stood still. Horn is nice. Infact if this wasn’t on your channel I just wouldn’t be able to continue. Just look at the averageness of Britain back in the late nineties.
I drove one of these back in 2010. They weren't very well regarded back in the day, as you say. The prop shaft was broken on that early 1.8 petrol example. I was actually surprised how much it was worth (around £1800 on an S registration). They make a lot more sense as a modern classic, I think, the Freelander 2s are not in that sort of territory yet.
You’re right they’re a segment defining vehicle and despite the reputation they will move from the bargain bin, given time. Only the best will remain and when the market wakes up values will rise just in the way they will for the Mk1 RAV, which never had a diesel incidentally…
You can longer get a decent one of these for under £1000. It's more like £2000 and £2500 for a nice one. Watch out for rust in the inner sills and boot floor. The sunroofs never work even on the best ones.
Mr Richardson and I had a chat about this... You can't get one like this for £1000 at all, of course. I think if it was a bit rough, and a 1.8 petrol which had been converted to front wheel drive, then you might manage it. I thought someone would know about the common rust areas...
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I bought a brand new 03 TD4 in the UK and this year in New Zealand where I have lived for the last 18 years I have just bought a 3 door V6 03 and loving it. They are just a great all round good driver car. I bought mine to tow a off roader around and it tows @ my 1600Kgs trailer/buggy combo just perfectly, great and informative review.
Glad you enjoyed the review! I would much prefer the V6 personally (which I think is obvious), especially as I already own a car with the 2.0 version of that engine.
Everyone reckons to buy the TD4 but it's the v6 that's in the car i'm considering. Yours still going strong?
@@Discoworx year of trouble free motoring and it passed its annual inspection without a drama, I did buy a new battery for it however the last owner had put a very underpowered CCA one in. good luck with your purchase
We won't mention forbidden fuel engines BECAUSE WE IN THE US NEVER RECEIVED THEM!
This is very nice.
Thank you very much for the review Joseph!
Very good, sir! Indeed, only the KV6 was available in America, so no danger of censorship there....
Excellent Review Sir, I nearly bought one of these back in 2016... I can confirm the leather gear lever and gear display are in my 75! I agree the M47 does sound a bit tractor like but realible, just a faff to change a air filter! But easy enough to service.
I think the chunky buttons by the instrument display could be like the Citroen BX
That is right, sir, I thought that the automatic gear lever was similar to the one in a 75. I wasn't quite in my right frame of mind on the day, sir, but it drove OK, the V6 would have been my preference of course...
Thanks Matt!....err Mr Lloyd for the video, like I think I mentioned before I had a 1.8 K series XEi “estate”, very comfortable and practical, I loved mine except it was a tad thirsty and lacking power I found, I think the TD4 is probably the best one to go for power and economy, but the petrol ones for smoothness and quietness.
The back door feels heavier obviously because of the spare wheel on the back door and that lockable compartment is proper handy for tools etc and a jack, but I’m sure Land Rover offered a picnic table for that space?? It wasn’t there in mine.
Yes the prop had been removed on mine, I hadn’t realised this when I bought it but it was pointed out to me later to my dismay and extra cost to my insurance as they regarded the Prop delete as a “Mod”, this shoved my insurance well over what I was prepared to pay so the “Hippo” was sold on.
I don't know whether there was a picnic table, certainly the Mark I and Mark II Honda CR-Vs had them. There certainly are a lot of storage spaces. Did you just recommend the forbidden fuel over the petrol version, sir? The prop shaft removal was very common, even over ten years ago.... It was a shame that they put the insurance up because of it!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes I may ha ve been mixing up with the Honda CRV.
I’d certainly have another Freelander, very versatile vehicle, but I’m not sure I could afford the MPG figures and servicing costs of the KV6, so I may go for another 1.8.
Mention Forbidden fuel sir, would I do such a thing on this channel? 🤔😁
Well sir, you just did, so I suppose so....
@@lloydvehicleconsulting The entire video was about a forbidden fuel powered motor sir.
I believe the Rover 600 had a similar Instrument Cowell with the buttons on the side of it. the dials are the same as a rover 25 too but with different graphics on them.
You are right, sir, the style could well be similar to the old Rover 600, as they were still in production at the same time as the Freelander's launch.
Sir, I mentioned to you a while ago that I had a TD4, in my defence I did suggest reviewing the V6, and said how much I enjoyed it. Thank you so much for another great video.
The thing is, sir, I just woke up one morning and believed I was Mr Richardson. My preferences suddenly changed, and I even started wearing one of his hats. Such things tend to happen spontaneously, and then I come back to my senses, after which it is all too late to correct the mistakes of the past.
I remember these being very popular from launch, as you rightly say the designers got the styling bang on point with the Freelander.
These may well have been very capable off road as any Land Rover should be but they were the perfect vehicle for people who just didn't need a 4x4 as big as the Discovery.
I believe many of these ended up being 2WD in their old age due to issues with the viscose coupling.
That's right, sir, a lot of them have ended up as two wheel drive only due to the cost of replacing that prop shaft. They still are very capable off road, certainly one of the reasons why this has ended up with some fairly chunky tyres. They are a very neat design indeed.
Great video and reflections! In New Zealand there was a group of people that wrote a publication - and later put up a website - on car buying called The Dog and Lemon Guide. They pan-seared the Freelander... The design and layout was ahead of its time though!
Ah yes, dogs and lemons, both pejorative terms for bad cars. It's much more relevant to think of this as a modern classic these days, a surprising number seem to be still around over here, in spite of the issues.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting That speaks volumes about how Land Rover is a part of life for many people in the UK! They have also sold well in New Zealand, even with competition from the Japanese off-roaders over the years.
@@alaricbragg7843 , yes, they actually hold their value quite well, despite numerous well documented issues.
I own a 52 plate 1.8 Serengeti 3door. Always wanted one since launch.
At launch I had a rr classic and an 88 series 3, for all the hate freelanders get, it's better than the rr and s3 by a country mile.
I had hgf not due to gasket, but failed waterpump.
And after taking out the 2 sunroofs and hardback I got open top motoring (sortof) and my kids love driving it 👍
I wasn't in my right mind when I drove this, of course, but the K-Series petrols I certainly can discuss having owned three K-Series engined cars myself. Water pump failure is surprisingly common amongst people with this engine these days, it seems. There isn't anything on the market quite like the three door Freelander any more.
Heritage classification now from Land Rover, I have 2006 facelift HSE 2505kg GVW, 201000 miles on the clock had it from 60000 miles, beautiful. Going up in price now collectable.
If they aren't completely rusty underneath and plagued with electrical issues...
Had an auto Td4 back in the day…very underrated (especially in the snow) and well designed family car and not at all pretentious. Really enjoyed owning it…when it was working…! I replaced it with a Freelander 2 - again another really underrated car in my opinion. I would have both again, if I could find a good one!
I had a 2003MY 2 door ES. What a quirky but fantastic car. Great to drive and I still see loads of them around her in Oxfordshire. I subsequently had two FL 2s and now have a Range Rover Evoque. All very good and very reliable cars.
Haven't driven many Land Rovers at all. I think that this and the 1998 Freelander I drove in 2010 are the only ones, so I really don't know any awful lot about them. I would like to try a V6 Mark I Freelander, but they are quite rare.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I think early Freelanders had crappy engines. The BMW (diesel!) block was very good.
We don't talk about diesels on this channel, sir... Unless I wake up one morning and imagine that I am someone else temporarily.
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They do a straight six in the series two MR Lloyd.
Another enjoyable video. Freelanders are really coming in to their own now. A lot are being roll caged and lightly modified for production class in off road rally's.
Thank you, sir! Yes, I imagine that many of these are now being converted for off road use exclusively whilst they are still relatively cheap.
£400 for a 2003 1.8 K series Masai Mara... 7 1/2 years ago. It has never cost that much per year in repairs. 119,000 miles on it's original clutch, which cost me £395 to get replaced.
That sounds like an absolute bargain! Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting it is somewhat moss and algae encrusted, and full of dogends, but it is still used every day.
Nothing wrong with that!
Really enjoyed this - well done to Matt of the "Furious Driving" channel, and I'm sure he loved the impressions!
I don't know, sir, they weren't great... He was very kind to allow me to fulfil my desires once I believed that I had become him for a short time.
Kalamari. Cannot remember if faux or real leather and half alcantara. I liked these. To sell. Though 2005-2018 the market didn’t. HSE and Auto Derv did sell. OK ish. I stopped even trying to own another once Freelander2 was a cheap car. Freelander2 just an awesome car. And FreeL original , well. Very very very poor. Still good looking just woeful. Even Auto Derv TD4 very so so. The K series with cheap factory gaskets just feel nasty drive. That’s before you have to skim so heads. All this said they look good still stood still. Horn is nice. Infact if this wasn’t on your channel I just wouldn’t be able to continue. Just look at the averageness of Britain back in the late nineties.
I drove one of these back in 2010. They weren't very well regarded back in the day, as you say. The prop shaft was broken on that early 1.8 petrol example. I was actually surprised how much it was worth (around £1800 on an S registration). They make a lot more sense as a modern classic, I think, the Freelander 2s are not in that sort of territory yet.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yes. FreeL 2 drives ultra contemporary. Came out about 56 07 ish. These feel min another ten plus years away classic status.
Yes, Prince Philip had a couple of those, didn't he?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes, totally forgot, the '2' is such a good car, it's like the 1 styling apart should be forgotten all about
You’re right they’re a segment defining vehicle and despite the reputation they will move from the bargain bin, given time. Only the best will remain and when the market wakes up values will rise just in the way they will for the Mk1 RAV, which never had a diesel incidentally…
Yes sir, no forbidden fuel on a Mark I RAV4, although the Mark IIs did have the option. I shouldn't be talking about it, though, should I?
You can longer get a decent one of these for under £1000. It's more like £2000 and £2500 for a nice one. Watch out for rust in the inner sills and boot floor. The sunroofs never work even on the best ones.
Mr Richardson and I had a chat about this... You can't get one like this for £1000 at all, of course. I think if it was a bit rough, and a 1.8 petrol which had been converted to front wheel drive, then you might manage it. I thought someone would know about the common rust areas...
Petrol is weak, Diesel is powerful and strong.
I prefer the 2.5 V6 petrol.
Well informed sir👏
Thank you very much indeed for watching!
Oww, a new defender
Yes sir?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting they look very similar
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Very good, sir!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thank you for the recognition. I am very proud of this achievement.
I mean, sir, if it makes you feel happy....