It is really apparent that eclipse is really just trying to understand why they are grieving for a version of him that's not really him like he's basically thinking"why couldn't I have this family? What makes him so different then me?"
to me, it’s basically like this. He’s used to be the big bad running around being secretive, but he’s never actually seen up close, how the death he himself and others cause, actually affects people. I feel like he’s kind of just walking around locations to where everyone else is, and just kind of observing what they do because he’s never had to grief himself. He also aligns it with his own question of what Earth would do to Ruin. Basically, he’s never seen grief and he’s basically trying to get an understanding of it all.
@@Pizza_Dude1920 Sorry, I ended up doing a dump lol. to me, it feels like Eclipse is showing a small bit of jealousy. He knows that if he was to die in a dramatic way in front of them, most would simply move on the next day due to his past action. But Solar, a version of *himself*, dies and he's seeing a Moon without a will, a Sun trying to keep things together and emotionally regulate, a emotionally shut down Lunar, and an extremely distressed Earth. People with no context to the situation could look at the four of them *alone* and could recognize that something bad had happened. And he can say all he likes that he doesn't really care, and maybe that is true, but only to a certain extent. Something that Eclipse always wanted, but will never say, is love, more so familial love. So seeing a version of himself living the live he wanted die had opened up a vacuum in the family. From what I saw from the videos, after learning about Solar's death, the first person in that family he goes to basically saying "what's so important about him?" is Earth. And while it could be said that it's because Earth wouldn't immediately harm him upon seeing him, he did visit Sun and Moon's house, but didn't interact with them so he actively targeted Earth about this information. Plus, it did feel like there was a rivalry between Solar and Eclipse. For solar, it was clear: Eclipse killed lunar, someone who was possibly Solar's first friend. For Eclipse, not so much, but it would make sense for Eclipse to be snide towards Solar if he had believed that Solar had everything Eclipse wanted. IDK, I just got the vibes that Eclipse is jealous of Solar and took a small step towards potently replacing him, even if he, himself, believe it impossible.
@@tabithashelton1406 That is an interesting take on things. Part of me just wants eclipse to be redeemed, but…. Also, at the same time the way you analyzed, it could also be very possible. Plus, I’m sure if he got redeemed, the entire fandom would still want to strangle his neck anyway… and not want him to be welcomed to the family. Also, I don’t mind the long comment. It’s interesting to see what other people think about things so it was not a problem.
@Pizza_Dude1920 Yeah, im not sure how I would feel if eclipse actually joined the family. I get the feeling that he's is technically trying to join but also views the end goal, joining the family, as nothing more than a pipe dream. I also got the misfortune of bring a writer lol, so I can understand a small bit more about character motivation and what could actually happen within the series. As a writer, I would likely end eclipse, but in a way that put him in this weird grey area like: oh he tormented lunar, tried to mess and harm sun and moon, made bloodmoon, bullied earth, but his last moments was this massive good thing. It wouldn't clear away his bad, but they can't ignore the good he did. And again, Solar is the key. People have been saying to use jack, who was made by solar, as a way to help bring him back, and I've heard whispers of eclipse thinking about bringing him back. As a writer, I wouldn't have done that, unless we lose either jack or eclipse in the process. And eclipse having a serious heart to heart with the newly revived solar, which he caused happened, would definitely put him in a better like. More so if Eclipse's last message was "im sorry for what I've done to you all" which feels like a throat punch just writing it out, even when I'm not an eclipse fan🤣
1. I feel sorry for Earth, she lost a Brother before she even got to ask if he wanted to become one. 2. Eclipse is walking on the thinnest of ice that if he ever breaths wrong it will break. 3. It's just a theory but if Solars Demention "is" nothing but a white void and everything is gone. Then would it work is someone was to recreate a big bang and restart his Demention.
Presumably their star died with everything else so they can't rely on rebuilding the world like eclipse wanted to, maybe bad sun's multi-star project can save solar if it works
@@Robogod94It would, but seeing as how magic is possible, it wouldn't be hard at all to accelerate time forward to make "Time dilation" happening. And it is confirmed already that time travels differently for each dimension, so it wouldn't be strange to make a dimension go on fast forward to "wake/restart" it back up.
Eclipse looked like he was deciding to help them or not, and I think the words of Earth helped him make his choice, because whether he wanted it or not, he listened, understood, and perhaps even slightly felt bad for her
Thats what i was thinking. After the therapy vid, i think eclipse actually started caring for Earths opinion. Also she asked him not to make fun of her so he didn't.
The voice acting for earth is amazing, as soon as she started talking about their plans I started crying. I loved her a solar’s relationship and they were my favourite duo. She made me cry in the video when she found out as well.
I feel like Eclipse does care deep down. He came to earth and she said she wasn't in the mood to be bullied by him. He didn't bother arguing back or insulting her. He just spoke to earth and asked what she'd do to ruin. It seems like eclipse was genuinely curious on what to do about ruin. He seems confused in a way when people say they'd choose not to kill ruin. Something tells me Earth may be the one to fix eclipse. Eclipse so far has shown the most kindness towards earth and no one else (kindness being not insulting them or yelling or hurting them). Eclipse opens up around Earth
"Eclipse, you are not a good man, you are not a good person in any regard. But you did care... Even if you could never show it." I think that when it comes to Eclipse and his feelings towards anything, we should all remember these words Solar Flare once said.
4:57 I hope the Astral bodies heard Lunar's little speech and reconsidered him not a threat anymore, cause hearing him say he doesn't want to kill Ruin for killing Solar, him regretting his choice of killing Eclipse, trying not to be angry knowing it will only hurt those around him, or express his emotions because of his powers, that has to mean something and show the Astral Bodies Lunar is not a threat. 10:27 That's very strange and weird of Eclipse to do, he's up to something cause there would be no other reason to do that.
I feel Gemini would feel bad for snapping at him like that, like i know why they did was reasonable, but they probably never expected him to just completely numb himself or block his emotions out.
@@em2souls I mean they should feel bad, Lunar already felt bad about killing Eclipse and scaring Earth and they just made him feel worse about himself. There's a difference between reprimanding someone for their actions and making the person feel even worse about themself. Besides they should've been the last person to talk to Lunar about this since Gemeni doesn't understand the concept of emotion or trauma or anything like that.
@@Nightmaresalife exactly, like, I understand that they are both probably stressed because now the other astrals see lunar as a threat and are gonna kill him soon, and all that work they went through was tarnished. But like, calling him stupid, doesn't seem right and what not.
Lunar and Moon in the thumbnail..they probably just don't even know what to feel at the moment...and Eclipse watching Earth?? Is that gonna be good or bad.. 11:56 thats actually really sad..ahh ima cry again 18:26 it's the fact that Eclipse talks to Earth "the most" right now, and he isn't saying anything..what is he thinking about?.. 20:59 AH IM CRYING AGAIN AND THIS IS NOT EVEN A SAD PART KINDA(its because i was thinking about when she said Solar would always put everything away to talk to her
I feel like eclipse is planning something because who would go to sun and moons show to touch the ground where solar died wait what if he was looking for dust from solar to try and rebuild him?
Awh no…WAIT IS THAT ECLIPSE IN THE BG??SMALL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING?!? NAH MOON IS HOLDING ONTO SOLARS GOGGLES I CANT- 💔 0:03: it’s because you’re *literally* the main characters 💀👍 0:15: honestly I don’t think they care enough to do that- 0:33: Solar would’ve of got a warning to go back to his own dimension if him being here was a problem, because the astral-bodies sure love doing warnings 1:23: that is true…gosh darn it why did Solars creator have to be part of the Creator Council 1:37: and this is what happens when you become a main character/own a show! 💀👍 2:22: *I can still hear her screams…* 3:06: Poor Lunar man literally everything has been going wrong for him for the past few days, the only good thing happened was when He and Earth made up but that’s literally it 3:21: and we also had the *Luxury* of watching it too :,) 3:40: he did so much man…at least he gets to have some break with his Sun now… 3:47: *insert chair creaking sounds* 4:23: Lunar.. :( 4:51: that my friend is being numb (I think-) Lunars lil Star friend will know how it feels 😃👍 5:24: I’m worried Lunar might like really blow because he’s having to hold it in- I’m not saying he’s gonna lash out, I mean he is gonna break and cause smth to happen :,) 6:15: oh Lunar… :( 8:09: I don’t think anyone would want to use that bed Sun- 9:00: MY HEART 🥹❤️ 11:00: awh earth.. :( 11:35: oh gosh she probably messaged Solar to see if he was nearly back at the daycare so they could go knit….. 11:50: idk why but this hurts more a bit, idk maybe it’s because this is realistic…because at any moment in the time the person you talked to, that might’ve been the last time… 12:18: Monty is probably having flashbacks with their dad aren’t they…? 15:00: random but props to Monty for being a 10/10 partner again 16:09: go on Earth! 16:23: pfft- 16:25: I- ECLIPSE?? W…what’s he doing...? 16:42: his eyes are so terrifying omg- 💀 17:09: oh shoo off Eclipse, this was your chance to have SOME character development 17:35: that is true, I’d say the closest has been Kc but then Kc did literally dip after he turned good (which I wish he didn’t, I think I could’ve of helped Bloodmoon and Eclipse if he didn’t just cut tides with them) 18:35: Solar was a 10/10- no he is so good that he broke the scale, I never understood the Solar haters 💀 20:10: don’t fill her head with your messed up thoughts Eclipse- 20:42: true Solar wouldn’t want that 21:40: hold up…HES FEELING PITY YALL 23:26: HELP-
I think Eclipse is trying to change... He always comes to Earth with questions when he's questioning himself. I don't know for sure, but just the way he's acting and speaking. We may be in for an Eclipse redemption arc.
I'm glad the brothers are actively giving each other emotional support. and dang the switch b/w Moon and Lunar is so good. Its easy to forget they are the same VA. "Everything's gonna be okay little brother" dang that got me. Earth's voice acting here, geez its heart-crushing. And Monty is being so good at helping Earth through this. He's giving good advice here. Eclipse? Now this. This is interesting. This is Very Very Interesting. I think... he might actually care about Earth, at least to some extent. But he has absolutely zero idea how to express that, and there is no way he would ever let anybody *know* that he cared. But reading between the lines, I think he was trying to offer her the means to take revenge on Ruin. It's funny, seeing Eclipse have that same 'I see the problem so I fix it' mentality as Solar. I wonder if Earth ever noticed the things Eclipse and Solar had in common? Anyways, what was also very interesting was how Earth was describing how she was sad that Eclipse had nobody in his life that cared about him and was non-judgemental towards him. And not realizing that she was demonstrating right then that she is the closest thing he has to somebody like that. But, I think maybe Eclipse might have. And I don't think he knows quite how to handle that lol.
That fact that Moon and Sun put Lunar's feelings before theirs like the best older brothers. "Everything's gonna be okay little brother" from Moon broke me.
Eclipse looks like he feels bad in the Thumbnail?- Edit: OH MY GOD I JUST NOW REALIZE MOON IS HOLDING SOLAR'S GOGGLES. THE HC OF MOON HAVING IT AFTER HIS DEATH IS CANON.
“Why does everything keep happening to us..?” That really hurt I understand the way Lunar is acting. When my sister passed, It was just shock. Your mind can’t comprehend what happened yet. sometimes it just makes you look very emotionless. Even days after you remain the same. Sun seems to also be going through the same thing. Although sounding expressive. It seems to be forced. He’s forcing his emotions out. Moon is just depressed which is understandable, but I realize he’s now acting like Solar’s moon.
I think Eclipse came by to talk to Earth so he could make his final decision on helping bring Solar back, from the last lore video on SAMS, and I have a feeling he's going to give in and help bring him back
I get the feeling eclipse was actually trying to be a bit nicer and hold back since he saw how Earth is acting rn. Also, I would love to see more of them two. That could turn out pretty interesting!
Eclipse has positive character development? Good! I believe he's wondering how anyone could be so upset about an Eclipse being dead and why no one wants to kill Ruin. But the gears are turning in his head. He touched the spot Solar died. He knows something we don't and Frank does.
"Grief is the culmination of love." Faye, GOW: Ragnarok. I think Eclipse was trying to help in his own special way but hes just not used to helping others just to help others so it kinda came off awkwardly. I think hes changing for the better. And the most receptive to change would be Earth, so it would make sense he'd try it with her first.
11:38 earth I feel that. I lost my grandmother a month before my high school graduation and the day before her death I got accepted into my dream college. The day she passed we were going to surprise her with the news but my dad went to check on her because she didn’t answer his call and that was unusual and he found her lifeless in her chair. I screamed asking why I couldn’t get another month to celebrate my graduation or my acceptance into college.
1:38 Don’t worry, Lunar! Moon is doing everything he can to bring our boy Solar back! 3:47 Thank you, Moon! Your amazing! (Oh I thought he meant he was doing his best to bring Solar back. But I mean he does mean that too so like- ok this timestamp is embarrassing that I made…) 5:04 Oh poor Lunar…If he didn’t have powers, he would definitely be more emotional rn. 6:43 Yes, bring Solar back! 8:09 PTHHHH- 😭 10:00 Yea but it only makes everything worst. Think positive, Sun! 10:27 MAH BOI CLIPSY DID WHAT NOW 😂 11:22 Oh poor Earth! Moony is doing everything he can to bring him back! 12:11 Monty, you’re not making this better. 12:33 Don’t worry, Earth! Moon is going to try and bring him back! 16:08 Me too, and I’m sure about 80% of the fanbase does now too. 16:21 THAT JOKE OMG 😭 16:27 Clipsy- 😂 17:38 BRO- WHY IS ECLIPSES A** IN THE CAMERA VIEW 😭 21:25 Clipsy, admit you care! You came to her.
I just hope so. I want Solar back. We all do. Everybody loves Solar. Now they know that Eclipse can bring him back or that banana man would come back to dance in front of him again. Solar helped them so much. He saved Sun and Moon from Ruin's dimension. Solar rebuilt the whole place in a week. Solar comforts Lunar and fixed his voice box. He helped Lunar and Earth get back together and Solar gave Earth therapy. He helped Moon stop Eclipse to protect their family. I mean what would they do without their beloved heroic mechanic Solar? Nothing cause everyone needs him Solar is their Hero and we love him.
Hmm! Sun says that Eclipse came into their house, rubbed his finger across the floor and left. It's possible that there were traces of Solar left and he just collected a sample. Eclipse may have decided to help after all! That would definitely be interesting!
I like the fact eclipse didn't make fun of her he stayed and listened for a bit( the fact eclipse is more broken then he likes people to see this episode is pruth he's not all evil inside)
We all are grieving for Solar but there is hope….he has a chance to be back. Until then let’s keep our hopes up let’s make edits and compilations in memories of our favorites moments of Solar and the Celestial Family. We all stay hopeful for Sun And Moon and the Celestial family! Who is with me 🥹
If you look in the thumbnail Solar’s googles didn’t get destroyed, Moon probably wears them now. 3:32 Solar not really talking to Sun maybe because of what happened to his Sun 10:17 tomorrow’s video is Sun and Lunar playing a video game 🥰 11:22 Solars gotta come back his sister needs her friend back 17:17 when I catch you Eclipse 17:39 why does the camera work look kinda cool ngl 20:40 definitely not he wouldn’t want that kind of burden on Earth
Huh...did Eclipse sound alittle...like he felt bad? AT 21:21 "Why do you care so much..?" - Earth "I was just...asking..." - Eclipse Then the whole feeling attacked dialogue. Yea...sure you dont care buddy. I'm honestly thinking, if Solar's code was used to create Eclipse and both of them has has these sorts of conversations with Earth, it could possibly mean that if Eclipse does get redeemed, or course it would be the same, but if they can't bring Solar back, I feel like he would not replace, but fill that role for the group, even if its a bit more complicated.
Earth is the first person to treat Eclipse kindly. And I think, secretly, is Eclipse kind of reaching out to feel that kindness. And to understand connections it seems. At least, that's what I think.
Eclipse just LISTENING to earth was pretty nice, actually. He asked her "what'd you do to him if he had the chance?" which almost feels like him attempting to be nice.
@@SunnyMilky026 but not too good one because we have solar into. I couldn’t imagine eclipse not having a little bit of a sassy personality, a little little bit of a snack and a bit of a bad boy actually.
@@nicolaokrojek3124 well at first the title was "Lunar struggling with the GRIEF of losing Solar" or something, so everyone thought the focus was on Lunar 😭
honestly, I get the feeling that eclipse will open up to earth more and eventually become friends with her, because why else would he check up on her? not only that, but he did not insult her one bit, and said in the lines of "Don't be sad for me, I don't need your sympathy... for the looks of it you need it more than I do anyways". And sounded rather hesitant a bit when asked why he cared so much. So my theory is that earth and eclipse will be friends soon :) Edit: Other theory is that eclipse secretly cares for earths emotions
Okay first of all Thank you Meg for the thumbnail I was literally talking to my sister how I think Moon wears/holds Solars goggles and you just proved me right- Also love the thumbnail in general ANYWAY- This felt to real and too close to home phhhhft- Earth not understanding what to do cause her usual comfort things she did with Solar so that would remind her to much of him I feel that honestly Poor girly Also anyone else weirded out by Eclipse showing up and literally not insulting her at all I mean I noticed in the thumbnail how soft he looked (like his eyes and poses in general. Leaning against the door looking at Earth with sympathy. Almost reminded me how I always thought Solar would lean on things cause he was tired 24/7) But I thought that was just a thumbnail thing But no he genuinely was being Idk if kind is the right word but remorseful That just felt… weird But also I have this theory that Earth actually pointed out Eclipse has never lost somebody/ had anybody close to him to lose He doesn’t understand grief He doesn’t what the drop family is going through And I think he wants to Since Puppet basically called him out for not feeling anything And Frank said he had no purpose cause he was made to be a distraction And now he doesn’t need to be one So what can he do? Might as well try to understand grief especially since his “enemies” are going through it And better to go to Earth cause she won’t kick him out I think Eclipse is trying to be more “human” if that makes sense He’s just a mimic of the original Eclipse I think he’s trying to figure out who he is again I hope someone can help him Or just give him a peace of mind if he dies again Anyway I think that’s all I can really say More of an organized than my first one Great video as always guys Weird hearing Eclipse without his usual raspy voice But it’s soothing to hear it calm I think it just reminds me of Solar… Have a good day/night and remember to stay safe!
It feels like a Eclipse is growing on earth a little more than the others sure he went to see her just to ask those questions, but it seems like he went over there to check on how she is doing. You could tell his voice was different and even though she said she wasn’t in the mood to be like made fun of, he actually respected that wish which is unlike him because I do remember one. Somebody wasn’t in the mood he would continue to make fun of them, I feel like eclipse is slowly redeeming himself (and I have a feeling he heard what moon said about saying sorry about abandoning him and coming into the house touching the floor before leaving. He’s planning on doing something) You can also tell whenever she said, why do you care so much the way he said “I was just asking” kind of sounded like he was hiding something, but I also noticed and wonder why is he going in the Sun’s house putting his finger on the floor on where solar died and just leave without saying anything, I’m starting to think maybe he has an idea on how to bring him back, which is his first step to being redeemed, and becoming a good guy
You know what honestly hurts? Now, sun has gone through every single person in his family dieing in some shape or form. Moon, Lunar, Earth, now Solar. He killed BloodMoon, so in total he's experienced the death of five people and that hurts my heart. I feel so bad for him.
16:34 ECLIPSE WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE?¿ Btw I have a feeling Eclipse slowly starts to warm up with Earth (platonic). But in a weird way. Cuz he never showed smt like that. And I don't blame him. Baby steps everybody
MONTY AND EARTH GETTING IN N OUT 🔥🔥🔥💯💯🗣 The thumbnail 😭😭 17:39 Looking respectfully rn 21:00 Crying respectfully rn 21:37 The way Eclipse pauses for a second 😭 23:16 "Nuggets... and fries... and sweet and sour sauce :("
Is eclipse going to have a redemption arc that will lead to Solar getting fixed? Cause with Frank talking with him about it and him showing up here it seems they are setting him up to be a big part of this arc and specifically a big part of Solar being fixed. I mean he still has his magic maybe that’s how they bring Solar back??
Solar was such a good person he was kind, smart, and so much more. I wish I could see him in one last video. And this is a lesson that everyone is not going to be here forever so go spend some time with your family and friends. I'm trying to tell myself right now not to kill him because its going to be ok and Solar would probably not want that to happen. So right now I'm just going back to watch my favorite Solar videos, cry, and try to calm down. Hugs for everyone else that still feels really bad and for others that are over it. 🖤🖤🖤
The fact sun just full on accepting solars dead and having to tell moon to think realistically is wild. Bc suns seen many people die to where he has to accept it.
Eclipse came to Earth for some unexpected reason? I wonder what he was looking for when coming in, or was he judging the place, and only wanted the simple answer of hating Ruin from Earth? I must know WHYYYYYYYY- BUT OMG BESIDES THAT, THIS VIDEO REALLY MADE ME ALMOST CRY-
Both lunar and moon are basically shutting down Earth it's crying her eyes out and sun I don't know what's happening to him. This whole family is falling apart at this point. Also can we all agree that eclipse is just taking advantage of this whole situation
I was wondering why Eclipse did that! Hopefully, if that’s the case then I hope Eclipse found something. This is a stretch but maybe Eclipse is going to try and bring Solar back as a surprise for the family? It would be cute though!
Thank god theyre all leaning on each other. Also Eclipse was weirly kind here. He may not want sympathy, but hes gonna get it from Earth. He seems so confused that now two people have said they wouldnt outright hurt Ruin after what hes done. Probably because everyone wants, or wanted, him dead for the longest time. Eclipse hurt them all for a very long time, repeatedly, and personally. Ruin just made Solar a casualty and while one is worse on the scale than the other, its confusing for him most likely.
Seems like that’s what he’s trying to do. If Lunar can be brought back from one singular nanomachine, perhaps Solar can be brought back from a few grains of dust
Grieving for Solar so bad with the crew and other fans still 😔😢😭🧡. Its gona hurt for a while but loving the story telling and seeing the different ways it has effected everyone as an individual. I really want to see more of Lunars, Earths and especially Moons journey through this as they were the closest to Solar. I was deeply happy to see that moment between Earth and Eclipse, gives me abit of hope that his true feelings are being dealt with more maturely over time and he is unconsciously building a very small hidden bond with Earth, not that he would ever admit it. I hope we get mire development for Eclipse through this unique time with the crew x
Man.. I feel sorry for everyone here.. Lunar can't cry because of his powers, moon being depressed and tries to bring Solar back, and Earth is sad about not being able to see Solar again... We really need him back because we need him so much in our lives.. I like how Eclipse didn't make her feel worse and instead ask questions about Ruin. Something tells me that Eclipse will be the one who will save Solar, but we'll just have to wait and see.
On the 23rd of March each year we must all pay tribute to Solar by remembering him in his prime. He would want us and the celestial family to remember him with happy memories and smiles. ❤❤ Rest in peace Solar, the candy corn brother and cousin no-one knew we ever need.
The final few moments of moon being moon and not nexus the fact he and solar had such a connection to the point his death turned him evil really shows how much they loved eachother as brothers or cousins
It's interesting seeing Eclipse interact with Earth in this way because it shows he's at least sensitive enough not to go and act like a complete jerk to her with what's just happened although he doesn't go about the topic nicely either. Judging by the fact that he went to Sun and Moon's house and rubbed his finger on the floor, it seems he's doing what Puppet asked and actively trying to find a way to bring Solar back as well. Perhaps there's hope for him after all. I don't think he'll ever be a part of the family or ever want to be but maybe he can be good and I hope he does find someone who he can have a strong personal bond with. Here's to hoping
So much character development in this episode, and ECLIPSE IS FEELING PITY, AHHH- In all seriousness, it's nice to see Eclipse caring for once, and the ACTING IS GOLDEN!!!
I've been grieving and sobbing for five days now making edits , soon I'll draw somethings and RPing with Solar Chatbot I created on PolyAI ( it's like CharacterAI but a bit better ) poor Lunar , I think we all know that he wants to just cry and scream but he's scared of his powers acting out and getting into even more trouble noo Lunar ;-; you can cry , it's ok forget what the Astrals say you just lost your brother and you have every right to cry your animatronic heart out ! also 🥺 Lunar and Moon made up ? that's good Sun , Moon , Lunar and Earth need each other right now ( THE THUMBNAIL- Moon holding Solar's goggles 💔 MEGGGGGG whyyyyyyy 😭 gorgeous art though ) Monty being a sweet partner to Earth you love to see it also hearing Earth say she hates Ruin and is disgusted by him wow you know you done messed up with Earth , EARTH , says she hates you and I'm with you Earth I hate Ruin too ... and you wanna know what Ruin's doing ? he's in Parts and Service watching videos in his head and just laughing like he didn't just ruin a entire family and kill their brother ... Ruin Disgust Me also I wonder why Eclipse rubbed the floor where Solar died ??? and then he went to visit Earth that is weird though ... he's asking Earth these questions , he didn't insult her surprisingly and ... is Eclipse getting redemption ? he's acting all the Tsundere ( that's the only word I can think of ) and like ... Idk it would be nice if he does Eclipse helps bring back Solar that'll be the start of his true redemption and I think I saw someone somewhere mention how Eclipse and Solar could be twins I'd like to see that and again I like Eclipse more than Ruin now anyways I'm probably gonna make more edits because of this and the TSAMS episode and sob some more then draw something for the TSAMS Two Year Anniversary art thing p.s : hugs for anyone who needs it ♡
I have a feeling that Eclipse could actually be changing, and Earth is the person that kickstarted that change. There's nothing that comes to my mind why he would show up and simply talk with Earth, except the idea that he actually cares. From the first day she met him, Earth has been the only person that was willing to talk and listen, and ever since they're therapy session, i wonder if he remembers how he acted when they first met and if he has any guilt. And with his visit to *the spot* i wonder if he's also working on a plan to try and bring Solar back.
16:23 OOOHHHH that's kinda creepy.. 17:16 he hesitated...HE HESITATED. 18:48 OooOooh? What was THAT reaction??? He sounds..like he's TRYING to be angry? It's almost like he's trying to act irritated to cover up whatever he's feeling..deflection? 21:35 he hesitated AGAIN! Does Earth's sadness...genuinely bother Eclipse? It doesn't seem like he cares per se, but it DOES genuinely seem like he was- effected. By her reactions, he taunted Moon. Made fun of his sadness and threw it in his face- with Earth...he just stands there and stares..like he doesn't know what to do. He just- stares. His hands almost look like they're..moving? Twitching? He seems uncomfortable. Does Eclipse..want to comfort Earth? Does it upset him to see her like this...? What was he doing there..why does he care so much about EARTH'S reactions and feelings to all this? Is all her times of trying to reach him before coming back to pay off..?
Poor lunar WAIT I SEE MOON HOLDING SOLARS GOGGLES 😭 1:31 "i just wish that bad things would stop happening to us" me too lunar.. 16:41 eclipse what are you doing here?
I feel like Earth isn’t going to be doing therapy sessions anytime soon…if she does, she’s such a trooper…everyone is. But I feel like Earth’s mental health is going to be in the worst shape
Lunar being the most quiet really had me weak in the heart, since he knows his powers can go crazy cause of his emotions, he's just holding them back despite the fact this hurts so bad to know someone he was so close to is gone now. In a way he's being strong about this, and that says a lot.. he can still grieve and what not with Sun and Moon while he keeps his powers in check. Poor little guy though I imagine really is having it rough inside, it's good of Sun and Moon to let Lunar stay with them. Meanwhile Earth's grieving still hits me like a truck, the poor girl really is having it really bad.. everyone is really, but Earth is handling real rough. Monty expressing how they understands this situation with their father when they lost them also hits me so hard, it really does happen suddenly and needlessly.. It's good though that Monty tries to find a way to comfort Earth with some food, best thing right now is to just comfort her in whatever ways possible. ..But then Eclipse came in. That was.. surprising to see to say the least, especially when he started talking to Earth, him actually not being rude or mean for once really says a lot. Even more curious he went to Sun and Moon's place earlier and checked out the area where Solar died, it's very.. unusual behavior for a guy like him to do all of this. He actually just talked with Earth and let her in a way vent out a bit of her emotions when he asked questions with Ruin and such. Wonder if he feels a sense of guilt or something.. it'd probably be really miniscule or something, but.. that was actually kinda something interesting to see from Eclipse. (Thumbnail art by the way has me weak too, the goggles in Moon's hand as everyone grieves, and Eclipse just standing at the side.. oof- we're gonna be crying for days I feel during all of this.)
Eclipse getting a redemption arc?- If that’s the case it is going to take a LONG while and I’m here for it. Even if he never makes amends with everyone, at least given him the chance to heal wound be amazing because at this point, Eclipse has died or nearly died like 3 or 4 times and I remember he said he was tired at the second/what was supposed to be a permanent death and Solar flare said he DOES care but like original Moon, he doesn’t know how to show it or completely ignores the fact which makes Eclipse seemingly caring just I tiny bit for Earth all that more in terms of his growth
Lunar is really trying to hold back their emotions, they knows if they loses control they would get in even more trouble with the Astrals. But Legit what could bring Solar back? I don’t know could remnant somehow work? But that would require murdering children. Time travel maybe? This is going to take months at least. Wait Eclipse rubbed his finger on the floor and left? Kinda make me chuckle but is he trying to collect Solar dust like Monty did with Lunar?? 17:39 Eclipse booty?! 😳😳
is anyone else sensing character development from Eclipse..?? cause, u know.. the thumbnail and the fact that he kinda just showed up to talk to Earth not wanting to get anything from her.. u know he kinda reminded me of Solar, he kinda just stoped everything he was doing to hear Earth out and give his humble opinion.. cause Earth was always there to hear 𝘩𝘪𝘮 out, even when he said he didnt need it. but i feel like, even if he doesnt wanna admit it to himself, he appreciates it..
It is really apparent that eclipse is really just trying to understand why they are grieving for a version of him that's not really him like he's basically thinking"why couldn't I have this family? What makes him so different then me?"
EVEN MORE TEARS
to me, it’s basically like this.
He’s used to be the big bad running around being secretive, but he’s never actually seen up close, how the death he himself and others cause, actually affects people.
I feel like he’s kind of just walking around locations to where everyone else is, and just kind of observing what they do because he’s never had to grief himself.
He also aligns it with his own question of what Earth would do to Ruin.
Basically, he’s never seen grief and he’s basically trying to get an understanding of it all.
@@Pizza_Dude1920 Sorry, I ended up doing a dump lol.
to me, it feels like Eclipse is showing a small bit of jealousy. He knows that if he was to die in a dramatic way in front of them, most would simply move on the next day due to his past action.
But Solar, a version of *himself*, dies and he's seeing a Moon without a will, a Sun trying to keep things together and emotionally regulate, a emotionally shut down Lunar, and an extremely distressed Earth. People with no context to the situation could look at the four of them *alone* and could recognize that something bad had happened.
And he can say all he likes that he doesn't really care, and maybe that is true, but only to a certain extent. Something that Eclipse always wanted, but will never say, is love, more so familial love. So seeing a version of himself living the live he wanted die had opened up a vacuum in the family. From what I saw from the videos, after learning about Solar's death, the first person in that family he goes to basically saying "what's so important about him?" is Earth. And while it could be said that it's because Earth wouldn't immediately harm him upon seeing him, he did visit Sun and Moon's house, but didn't interact with them so he actively targeted Earth about this information.
Plus, it did feel like there was a rivalry between Solar and Eclipse. For solar, it was clear: Eclipse killed lunar, someone who was possibly Solar's first friend. For Eclipse, not so much, but it would make sense for Eclipse to be snide towards Solar if he had believed that Solar had everything Eclipse wanted. IDK, I just got the vibes that Eclipse is jealous of Solar and took a small step towards potently replacing him, even if he, himself, believe it impossible.
@@tabithashelton1406 That is an interesting take on things.
Part of me just wants eclipse to be redeemed, but…. Also, at the same time the way you analyzed, it could also be very possible.
Plus, I’m sure if he got redeemed, the entire fandom would still want to strangle his neck anyway… and not want him to be welcomed to the family.
Also, I don’t mind the long comment. It’s interesting to see what other people think about things so it was not a problem.
@Pizza_Dude1920 Yeah, im not sure how I would feel if eclipse actually joined the family. I get the feeling that he's is technically trying to join but also views the end goal, joining the family, as nothing more than a pipe dream.
I also got the misfortune of bring a writer lol, so I can understand a small bit more about character motivation and what could actually happen within the series. As a writer, I would likely end eclipse, but in a way that put him in this weird grey area like: oh he tormented lunar, tried to mess and harm sun and moon, made bloodmoon, bullied earth, but his last moments was this massive good thing. It wouldn't clear away his bad, but they can't ignore the good he did.
And again, Solar is the key. People have been saying to use jack, who was made by solar, as a way to help bring him back, and I've heard whispers of eclipse thinking about bringing him back. As a writer, I wouldn't have done that, unless we lose either jack or eclipse in the process. And eclipse having a serious heart to heart with the newly revived solar, which he caused happened, would definitely put him in a better like. More so if Eclipse's last message was "im sorry for what I've done to you all" which feels like a throat punch just writing it out, even when I'm not an eclipse fan🤣
1. I feel sorry for Earth, she lost a Brother before she even got to ask if he wanted to become one.
2. Eclipse is walking on the thinnest of ice that if he ever breaths wrong it will break.
3. It's just a theory but if Solars Demention "is" nothing but a white void and everything is gone. Then would it work is someone was to recreate a big bang and restart his Demention.
*dimension
But also
Good theory but still wouldn’t it still take millions of years to get back to 2024 in that dimension?
Presumably their star died with everything else so they can't rely on rebuilding the world like eclipse wanted to, maybe bad sun's multi-star project can save solar if it works
❤
@@Robogod94It would, but seeing as how magic is possible, it wouldn't be hard at all to accelerate time forward to make "Time dilation" happening. And it is confirmed already that time travels differently for each dimension, so it wouldn't be strange to make a dimension go on fast forward to "wake/restart" it back up.
@@Maanfla fair enough
Eclipse looked like he was deciding to help them or not, and I think the words of Earth helped him make his choice, because whether he wanted it or not, he listened, understood, and perhaps even slightly felt bad for her
Thats what i was thinking. After the therapy vid, i think eclipse actually started caring for Earths opinion. Also she asked him not to make fun of her so he didn't.
OMG MOON IS HOLDING SOLAR’S GOGGLES IN THE THUMBNAIL NOOO
OHY GOSH I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THAT -
😭
IM WAILING
I'm not gonna cry, I'm not gonna cry, I'm not gonna cry......... ( Slams Desk) Fuck
I didn't even see that now I'm crying even more
Hearing Moon call Solar a byproduct hurts my heart even though it’s an entirely different context
The voice acting for earth is amazing, as soon as she started talking about their plans I started crying. I loved her a solar’s relationship and they were my favourite duo. She made me cry in the video when she found out as well.
I feel like Eclipse does care deep down. He came to earth and she said she wasn't in the mood to be bullied by him. He didn't bother arguing back or insulting her. He just spoke to earth and asked what she'd do to ruin. It seems like eclipse was genuinely curious on what to do about ruin. He seems confused in a way when people say they'd choose not to kill ruin.
Something tells me Earth may be the one to fix eclipse. Eclipse so far has shown the most kindness towards earth and no one else (kindness being not insulting them or yelling or hurting them). Eclipse opens up around Earth
ECLIPSE AND EARTH NEED TO FORM A SISTER-BROTHER/LOVE-HATE RELATIONSHIP. LIKE, NOW. 😭😭
@@Naomi_winzz that would be interesting to see
"Eclipse, you are not a good man, you are not a good person in any regard. But you did care... Even if you could never show it."
I think that when it comes to Eclipse and his feelings towards anything, we should all remember these words Solar Flare once said.
@@annvisie I'm glad solar flare hasn't been completely forgotten!
@jj-kiwi-shadow And he will never be forgotten. I remember, and I will remember all the characters 😈
Seeing Eclipse try to comfort Earth ..feels you with confusion
Only nine minutes in, I want to see that.
Yep, I am confused
I'm confused about it to 😢
You tryna hypnotize me or smth?😂😂😂😂
I shouldn’t be laughing rn, sorry...😢
TODAY WE GRIEF FOR SOLAR
ANYONE AGREE?
I have started before today
I agree
Agree!
Agree
I started grieving when he died 😭
4:57 I hope the Astral bodies heard Lunar's little speech and reconsidered him not a threat anymore, cause hearing him say he doesn't want to kill Ruin for killing Solar, him regretting his choice of killing Eclipse, trying not to be angry knowing it will only hurt those around him, or express his emotions because of his powers, that has to mean something and show the Astral Bodies Lunar is not a threat.
10:27 That's very strange and weird of Eclipse to do, he's up to something cause there would be no other reason to do that.
I feel Gemini would feel bad for snapping at him like that, like i know why they did was reasonable, but they probably never expected him to just completely numb himself or block his emotions out.
@@em2souls I mean they should feel bad, Lunar already felt bad about killing Eclipse and scaring Earth and they just made him feel worse about himself. There's a difference between reprimanding someone for their actions and making the person feel even worse about themself. Besides they should've been the last person to talk to Lunar about this since Gemeni doesn't understand the concept of emotion or trauma or anything like that.
@@Nightmaresalife exactly, like, I understand that they are both probably stressed because now the other astrals see lunar as a threat and are gonna kill him soon, and all that work they went through was tarnished.
But like, calling him stupid, doesn't seem right and what not.
Oh god... Lunar i know how your feeling buddy... I am too. I WANT SOLAR BACK! Thats all i want...
So do I 😭 he didn’t deserve to die… I agree with Lunar why does everything bad happen to them 😭😭😭
We all want solar back if he revive it in VrChat like Lunar
WE ALL WANT SOLAR BACK
Guys, it feels worse if you realize that even after death, Lunar kept Solar's secret about his Moon. It hurts like hell
Lunar and Moon in the thumbnail..they probably just don't even know what to feel at the moment...and Eclipse watching Earth?? Is that gonna be good or bad..
11:56 thats actually really sad..ahh ima cry again
18:26 it's the fact that Eclipse talks to Earth "the most" right now, and he isn't saying anything..what is he thinking about?..
20:59 AH IM CRYING AGAIN AND THIS IS NOT EVEN A SAD PART KINDA(its because i was thinking about when she said Solar would always put everything away to talk to her
I feel like eclipse is planning something because who would go to sun and moons show to touch the ground where solar died wait what if he was looking for dust from solar to try and rebuild him?
Awh no…WAIT IS THAT ECLIPSE IN THE BG??SMALL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING?!?
NAH MOON IS HOLDING ONTO SOLARS GOGGLES I CANT- 💔
0:03: it’s because you’re *literally* the main characters 💀👍
0:15: honestly I don’t think they care enough to do that-
0:33: Solar would’ve of got a warning to go back to his own dimension if him being here was a problem, because the astral-bodies sure love doing warnings
1:23: that is true…gosh darn it why did Solars creator have to be part of the Creator Council
1:37: and this is what happens when you become a main character/own a show! 💀👍
2:22: *I can still hear her screams…*
3:06: Poor Lunar man literally everything has been going wrong for him for the past few days, the only good thing happened was when He and Earth made up but that’s literally it
3:21: and we also had the *Luxury* of watching it too :,)
3:40: he did so much man…at least he gets to have some break with his Sun now…
3:47: *insert chair creaking sounds*
4:23: Lunar.. :(
4:51: that my friend is being numb (I think-) Lunars lil Star friend will know how it feels 😃👍
5:24: I’m worried Lunar might like really blow because he’s having to hold it in- I’m not saying he’s gonna lash out, I mean he is gonna break and cause smth to happen :,)
6:15: oh Lunar… :(
8:09: I don’t think anyone would want to use that bed Sun-
9:00: MY HEART 🥹❤️
11:00: awh earth.. :(
11:35: oh gosh she probably messaged Solar to see if he was nearly back at the daycare so they could go knit…..
11:50: idk why but this hurts more a bit, idk maybe it’s because this is realistic…because at any moment in the time the person you talked to, that might’ve been the last time…
12:18: Monty is probably having flashbacks with their dad aren’t they…?
15:00: random but props to Monty for being a 10/10 partner again
16:09: go on Earth!
16:23: pfft-
16:25: I- ECLIPSE?? W…what’s he doing...?
16:42: his eyes are so terrifying omg- 💀
17:09: oh shoo off Eclipse, this was your chance to have SOME character development
17:35: that is true, I’d say the closest has been Kc but then Kc did literally dip after he turned good (which I wish he didn’t, I think I could’ve of helped Bloodmoon and Eclipse if he didn’t just cut tides with them)
18:35: Solar was a 10/10- no he is so good that he broke the scale, I never understood the Solar haters 💀
20:10: don’t fill her head with your messed up thoughts Eclipse-
20:42: true Solar wouldn’t want that
21:40: hold up…HES FEELING PITY YALL
23:26: HELP-
I FEEL LIKE ECLIPSE CARES A LIL 😩
@@EGG_YOKYeah we know he cares
I saw that as well!!!
Maybe he does care? I do have a feeling he wants to change...?
@@EGG_YOK he probably cares/feels some pity for Earth rather than the others since she is the only one whose been pretty nice and patient with him
@@Starr_06I haven't watched the whole video, did Eclipse even show up in the actual video?
THE WAY MOON CALLED LUNAR HIS LITTLE BROTHER RWAS ADORABLEE 😭😭 9:00
That part actually broke me
STOP I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT AND I KICKED MY FEET AND SQUEALED WHEN HE SAID THATTTT😭❤️
I KNOW!!! 😭😭😭
How sad lunar doesn't want to be the little brother
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I'm kind of impressed with Eclipse in this episode. Quite genuinely the closest he's ever come to not being a jerk.
Why Eclipse creepin in a window always so funny to me
17:39 That’s a flattering angle 🤣
Stooooop 😭😂😭😂😂😭
I came here almost immediately after the nightmare episode and now it’s just a jumpscare 💀
I think Eclipse is trying to change... He always comes to Earth with questions when he's questioning himself. I don't know for sure, but just the way he's acting and speaking. We may be in for an Eclipse redemption arc.
I hope so ;-;
Lol like number 69, also I have been expecting this since the beginning
@@GabeJeremySuzieFritz Bro 💀
I'm glad the brothers are actively giving each other emotional support. and dang the switch b/w Moon and Lunar is so good. Its easy to forget they are the same VA.
"Everything's gonna be okay little brother" dang that got me.
Earth's voice acting here, geez its heart-crushing. And Monty is being so good at helping Earth through this. He's giving good advice here.
Eclipse? Now this. This is interesting. This is Very Very Interesting.
I think... he might actually care about Earth, at least to some extent. But he has absolutely zero idea how to express that, and there is no way he would ever let anybody *know* that he cared.
But reading between the lines, I think he was trying to offer her the means to take revenge on Ruin. It's funny, seeing Eclipse have that same 'I see the problem so I fix it' mentality as Solar. I wonder if Earth ever noticed the things Eclipse and Solar had in common?
Anyways, what was also very interesting was how Earth was describing how she was sad that Eclipse had nobody in his life that cared about him and was non-judgemental towards him. And not realizing that she was demonstrating right then that she is the closest thing he has to somebody like that. But, I think maybe Eclipse might have. And I don't think he knows quite how to handle that lol.
That fact that Moon and Sun put Lunar's feelings before theirs like the best older brothers. "Everything's gonna be okay little brother" from Moon broke me.
Eclipse looks like he feels bad in the Thumbnail?-
Edit: OH MY GOD I JUST NOW REALIZE MOON IS HOLDING SOLAR'S GOGGLES. THE HC OF MOON HAVING IT AFTER HIS DEATH IS CANON.
IDK THIS IS SOOO SADDDDD
“Eclipse is… SORRY?! In VRchat” I’m sorry I had to 😭
“Why does everything keep happening to us..?”
That really hurt
I understand the way Lunar is acting. When my sister passed, It was just shock. Your mind can’t comprehend what happened yet. sometimes it just makes you look very emotionless. Even days after you remain the same.
Sun seems to also be going through the same thing. Although sounding expressive. It seems to be forced. He’s forcing his emotions out.
Moon is just depressed which is understandable, but I realize he’s now acting like Solar’s moon.
Omg a solarballs!
Solars moon was much more abusive so I think this is more just sadness.
I think Eclipse came by to talk to Earth so he could make his final decision on helping bring Solar back, from the last lore video on SAMS, and I have a feeling he's going to give in and help bring him back
I get the feeling eclipse was actually trying to be a bit nicer and hold back since he saw how Earth is acting rn. Also, I would love to see more of them two. That could turn out pretty interesting!
5:25 THAT’S SO HEARTBREAKING- Lunar can’t be sad or anything because his emotions will hurt everyone around him… 💔😭
Tell me about it... poor Lunar can't even cry a single tear without causing problems...🥺😰😭
This sounds so similar to the character Pepa from "Encanto" with having to contain emotions from changing the weather.
@@scorpiowarrior23 WAIT THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE- 😨
Eclipse has positive character development? Good!
I believe he's wondering how anyone could be so upset about an Eclipse being dead and why no one wants to kill Ruin.
But the gears are turning in his head. He touched the spot Solar died. He knows something we don't and Frank does.
"Grief is the culmination of love." Faye, GOW: Ragnarok.
I think Eclipse was trying to help in his own special way but hes just not used to helping others just to help others so it kinda came off awkwardly.
I think hes changing for the better. And the most receptive to change would be Earth, so it would make sense he'd try it with her first.
He opening up to Earth more because for Moon that's his trauma he was abandoned by him and unfortunately he did not hear his apology
11:38 earth I feel that. I lost my grandmother a month before my high school graduation and the day before her death I got accepted into my dream college. The day she passed we were going to surprise her with the news but my dad went to check on her because she didn’t answer his call and that was unusual and he found her lifeless in her chair. I screamed asking why I couldn’t get another month to celebrate my graduation or my acceptance into college.
Ho...I'm so sorry...😔
1:38 Don’t worry, Lunar! Moon is doing everything he can to bring our boy Solar back!
3:47 Thank you, Moon! Your amazing! (Oh I thought he meant he was doing his best to bring Solar back. But I mean he does mean that too so like- ok this timestamp is embarrassing that I made…)
5:04 Oh poor Lunar…If he didn’t have powers, he would definitely be more emotional rn.
6:43 Yes, bring Solar back!
8:09 PTHHHH- 😭
10:00 Yea but it only makes everything worst. Think positive, Sun!
10:27 MAH BOI CLIPSY DID WHAT NOW 😂
11:22 Oh poor Earth! Moony is doing everything he can to bring him back!
12:11 Monty, you’re not making this better.
12:33 Don’t worry, Earth! Moon is going to try and bring him back!
16:08 Me too, and I’m sure about 80% of the fanbase does now too.
16:21 THAT JOKE OMG 😭
16:27 Clipsy- 😂
17:38 BRO- WHY IS ECLIPSES A** IN THE CAMERA VIEW 😭
21:25 Clipsy, admit you care! You came to her.
I just hope so. I want Solar back. We all do. Everybody loves Solar.
Now they know that Eclipse can bring him back or that banana man would come back to dance in front of him again.
Solar helped them so much. He saved Sun and Moon from Ruin's dimension. Solar rebuilt the whole place in a week.
Solar comforts Lunar and fixed his voice box. He helped Lunar and Earth get back together and Solar gave Earth therapy. He helped Moon stop Eclipse to protect their family.
I mean what would they do without their beloved heroic mechanic Solar?
Nothing cause everyone needs him Solar is their Hero and we love him.
Hmm! Sun says that Eclipse came into their house, rubbed his finger across the floor and left. It's possible that there were traces of Solar left and he just collected a sample. Eclipse may have decided to help after all! That would definitely be interesting!
What’s the timestamp?
@@Cersuplat457 It's 10:27
I like the fact eclipse didn't make fun of her he stayed and listened for a bit( the fact eclipse is more broken then he likes people to see this episode is pruth he's not all evil inside)
2:45 I love how both Sun and Moon are trying to be there for the others despite watching Solar die 🥺
*You wish Lunar luck on what happened to Solar. It fills you with a bit of sadness and determination.*
*But mostly sadness*
Why are you everywhere😭💀
Because they are, they like SAMS as you can see
@@meleoy_gacha3957 *I always come back*
We all are grieving for Solar but there is hope….he has a chance to be back. Until then let’s keep our hopes up let’s make edits and compilations in memories of our favorites moments of Solar and the Celestial Family. We all stay hopeful for Sun And Moon and the Celestial family! Who is with me 🥹
I am. We MUST have Solar back he won't be gone for long.
I know they will bring Solar back the family loves him everybody loves him we love him.
Solar is the best of everybody, especially his family
If you look in the thumbnail Solar’s googles didn’t get destroyed, Moon probably wears them now. 3:32 Solar not really talking to Sun maybe because of what happened to his Sun 10:17 tomorrow’s video is Sun and Lunar playing a video game 🥰 11:22 Solars gotta come back his sister needs her friend back 17:17 when I catch you Eclipse 17:39 why does the camera work look kinda cool ngl 20:40 definitely not he wouldn’t want that kind of burden on Earth
I'm fully accepting this headcanon of Moon wearing his goggles 😢
"You will find moonlit nights strangely empty, because when you call my name through them, there will be no answer…"
WHY'D YOU DO THIS 😭😭 Just that sentence broke me all over again
9:03 WHEN HE SAID LITTLE BROTHER I SMILED-
SAME
Lunar is either in shock, gone numb again, or he's still processing Solar's death and doesn't know how to react at the moment.
Probably all three-
Probably all three tbh...
D, all of the above
1:40 “I just wish that bad things would stop happening to us” Me too Lunar…😢
I think Eclipse was coming to his own resolve for what he's going to do by asking Earth about how she feels and about Solar.
Huh...did Eclipse sound alittle...like he felt bad?
AT 21:21
"Why do you care so much..?" - Earth
"I was just...asking..." - Eclipse
Then the whole feeling attacked dialogue. Yea...sure you dont care buddy. I'm honestly thinking, if Solar's code was used to create Eclipse and both of them has has these sorts of conversations with Earth, it could possibly mean that if Eclipse does get redeemed, or course it would be the same, but if they can't bring Solar back, I feel like he would not replace, but fill that role for the group, even if its a bit more complicated.
Eclipse is seeming like he's debating something... Going around out of his way to check up on Earth...he is thinking
Eclipse do you care to share what you are thinking
Omg Eclipse jumpscared me when he randomly showed up
17:38 ECLIPSE GET YOUR ASS OUT OF THE CAMERA
Nah 💀
Poor Clipsy
I read this at dead ass 12:55 am with no context at the time and almost kms'd trying not to laugh and wake up my parents 💀
The fans in that scene: Nah Jit trippin
Earth is the first person to treat Eclipse kindly. And I think, secretly, is Eclipse kind of reaching out to feel that kindness. And to understand connections it seems. At least, that's what I think.
😭 aw poor them.
I’ll miss solar too and maybe he’ll be back but I won’t be optimistic about, better to not hope and be pleasantly surprised
Eclipse just LISTENING to earth was pretty nice, actually. He asked her "what'd you do to him if he had the chance?" which almost feels like him attempting to be nice.
I agree! Eclipse become less bad every day, it's so cool! Maybe he'll can be good...that's all I ever wanted, eclipse being good 🥺
Man is collecting ideas istg 💀
@@SunnyMilky026 but not too good one because we have solar into. I couldn’t imagine eclipse not having a little bit of a sassy personality, a little little bit of a snack and a bit of a bad boy actually.
@@rainpuppy14 yes of course but just not mean
moon: “everything is gonna be ok lil brother”
AAAHHHHHHHH THAT HIT MY HEART! 😭
_gives Lunar and everyone else a BIG hug_
What about everyone else? Not just Lunar
@@nicolaokrojek3124 well at first the title was "Lunar struggling with the GRIEF of losing Solar" or something, so everyone thought the focus was on Lunar 😭
@@lqlb1t umm I’m saying, everyone else was sad not just him
@@lqlb1t oh alr I was about to say give Sun a huge hug too one of the people that hasn’t died yet
@@lqlb1t I didn’t see that video or what it was
21:38 i know he would've said thank you but he just didn't a gut..he was scared...
honestly, I get the feeling that eclipse will open up to earth more and eventually become friends with her, because why else would he check up on her? not only that, but he did not insult her one bit, and said in the lines of "Don't be sad for me, I don't need your sympathy... for the looks of it you need it more than I do anyways". And sounded rather hesitant a bit when asked why he cared so much. So my theory is that earth and eclipse will be friends soon :)
Edit: Other theory is that eclipse secretly cares for earths emotions
I think he's more attached to her for starting to be attached to cuz that's the only one of the family that he could do it with and be himself with
Okay first of all
Thank you Meg for the thumbnail I was literally talking to my sister how I think Moon wears/holds Solars goggles and you just proved me right-
Also love the thumbnail in general
ANYWAY-
This felt to real and too close to home phhhhft-
Earth not understanding what to do cause her usual comfort things she did with Solar so that would remind her to much of him
I feel that honestly
Poor girly
Also anyone else weirded out by Eclipse showing up and literally not insulting her at all
I mean
I noticed in the thumbnail how soft he looked (like his eyes and poses in general. Leaning against the door looking at Earth with sympathy. Almost reminded me how I always thought Solar would lean on things cause he was tired 24/7)
But I thought that was just a thumbnail thing
But no he genuinely was being
Idk if kind is the right word but remorseful
That just felt… weird
But also I have this theory that Earth actually pointed out
Eclipse has never lost somebody/ had anybody close to him to lose
He doesn’t understand grief
He doesn’t what the drop family is going through
And I think he wants to
Since Puppet basically called him out for not feeling anything
And Frank said he had no purpose cause he was made to be a distraction
And now he doesn’t need to be one
So what can he do?
Might as well try to understand grief especially since his “enemies” are going through it
And better to go to Earth cause she won’t kick him out
I think Eclipse is trying to be more “human” if that makes sense
He’s just a mimic of the original Eclipse
I think he’s trying to figure out who he is again
I hope someone can help him
Or just give him a peace of mind if he dies again
Anyway I think that’s all I can really say
More of an organized than my first one
Great video as always guys
Weird hearing Eclipse without his usual raspy voice
But it’s soothing to hear it calm
I think it just reminds me of Solar…
Have a good day/night and remember to stay safe!
It feels like a Eclipse is growing on earth a little more than the others sure he went to see her just to ask those questions, but it seems like he went over there to check on how she is doing. You could tell his voice was different and even though she said she wasn’t in the mood to be like made fun of, he actually respected that wish which is unlike him because I do remember one. Somebody wasn’t in the mood he would continue to make fun of them, I feel like eclipse is slowly redeeming himself (and I have a feeling he heard what moon said about saying sorry about abandoning him and coming into the house touching the floor before leaving. He’s planning on doing something)
You can also tell whenever she said, why do you care so much the way he said “I was just asking” kind of sounded like he was hiding something, but I also noticed and wonder why is he going in the Sun’s house putting his finger on the floor on where solar died and just leave without saying anything, I’m starting to think maybe he has an idea on how to bring him back, which is his first step to being redeemed, and becoming a good guy
That would be rly cool...
9:01 Moon calling Lunar “little brother” is the best thing ever
You know what honestly hurts?
Now, sun has gone through every single person in his family dieing in some shape or form.
Moon, Lunar, Earth, now Solar.
He killed BloodMoon, so in total he's experienced the death of five people and that hurts my heart. I feel so bad for him.
Fr 😭
@@EMYISGREYwould we count KC?
That would make six
@@MinicarnivalYeah ig your right KC was close to them
@@EMYISGREY Oh! And the computers other AI!
It hurts so much 😭
16:34 ECLIPSE WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE?¿
Btw I have a feeling Eclipse slowly starts to warm up with Earth (platonic). But in a weird way. Cuz he never showed smt like that. And I don't blame him. Baby steps everybody
MONTY AND EARTH GETTING IN N OUT 🔥🔥🔥💯💯🗣
The thumbnail 😭😭
17:39 Looking respectfully rn
21:00 Crying respectfully rn
21:37 The way Eclipse pauses for a second 😭
23:16 "Nuggets... and fries... and sweet and sour sauce :("
Is eclipse going to have a redemption arc that will lead to Solar getting fixed? Cause with Frank talking with him about it and him showing up here it seems they are setting him up to be a big part of this arc and specifically a big part of Solar being fixed. I mean he still has his magic maybe that’s how they bring Solar back??
I have a feeling that if Eclipse gets a redemption ark then Solar won't come back :(
@@DianaDawnDestiny nope we getting both
@@rainpuppy14 fingers crossed 🤞
24:49
YOU CAN SEE MONTY'S LITTLE FEETS THROUGH THE CEILING LMAO
no, be calm, you're supposed to be sad...But the little claws-
Eclipse: Tell me something. Do you really need him. Earth: Yeah. Eclipse: ............. (long sigh)
ECLIPSE. SHARE WITH THE CLASS.
“I don’t wanna get anyone wet…”
Lunar caring for others more than himself even tho he’s grieving hard rn:
Solar was such a good person he was kind, smart, and so much more. I wish I could see him in one last video. And this is a lesson that everyone is not going to be here forever so go spend some time with your family and friends. I'm trying to tell myself right now not to kill him because its going to be ok and Solar would probably not want that to happen. So right now I'm just going back to watch my favorite Solar videos, cry, and try to calm down.
Hugs for everyone else that still feels really bad and for others that are over it. 🖤🖤🖤
The fact sun just full on accepting solars dead and having to tell moon to think realistically is wild. Bc suns seen many people die to where he has to accept it.
Eclipse came to Earth for some unexpected reason? I wonder what he was looking for when coming in, or was he judging the place, and only wanted the simple answer of hating Ruin from Earth? I must know WHYYYYYYYY- BUT OMG BESIDES THAT, THIS VIDEO REALLY MADE ME ALMOST CRY-
Both lunar and moon are basically shutting down Earth it's crying her eyes out and sun I don't know what's happening to him. This whole family is falling apart at this point.
Also can we all agree that eclipse is just taking advantage of this whole situation
Nah I believe he can change
Have some faith
Oooh, is eclipse watching earth?? :3
Crying rn- WHY DOES LUNAR REMIND ME OF ME WHEN MY GREAT-GRANDMA PASSED 😭😭
@Bloodsunny-zt3xqWHAT 😭😭
“WHY DOES EVERYTHING KEEP HAPPENING TO US”
REAL,,,
The amount of sorry i feel for them is crazy😭💔
Silent reaction to trauma 6:58 I can agree with this I have done the same thing and it hurts the heart for a while….
I think Eclipse was trying to see if there were any remains of Solar when Sun mentioned that Eclipse came over and rubbed his finger on the floor.
I was wondering why Eclipse did that! Hopefully, if that’s the case then I hope Eclipse found something. This is a stretch but maybe Eclipse is going to try and bring Solar back as a surprise for the family? It would be cute though!
I think eclipse is more kind then before so maybe...? To prove he can be good...
Well, solar literally just disappeared out of thin air, so I don’t think he would of found any specs of solar tbh
@@mashymellowkt2106 On the Monty and Foxy Show in one of the videos, Puppet said even after a dimensional collapse, energy can remain.
@@mashymellowkt2106 you never know though.
I’m so sorry about anyone who ever thought Ru1n was good, but Solar BETTER come back after all that has happened.
0:23 a trick?NOOOOO
Thank god theyre all leaning on each other. Also Eclipse was weirly kind here. He may not want sympathy, but hes gonna get it from Earth.
He seems so confused that now two people have said they wouldnt outright hurt Ruin after what hes done.
Probably because everyone wants, or wanted, him dead for the longest time.
Eclipse hurt them all for a very long time, repeatedly, and personally. Ruin just made Solar a casualty and while one is worse on the scale than the other, its confusing for him most likely.
Earth and Eclipse having a normal conversation woo-hoo
10:27 Wait…IS HE TRYING TO BRING SOLAR BACK?! 😨
Seems like that’s what he’s trying to do. If Lunar can be brought back from one singular nanomachine, perhaps Solar can be brought back from a few grains of dust
@@gachabox3142 he’s bio organic so maybe he could use his DNA to clone him or smth
@@xcherryblxssomsx9881 Here’s hoping
Grieving for Solar so bad with the crew and other fans still 😔😢😭🧡. Its gona hurt for a while but loving the story telling and seeing the different ways it has effected everyone as an individual. I really want to see more of Lunars, Earths and especially Moons journey through this as they were the closest to Solar. I was deeply happy to see that moment between Earth and Eclipse, gives me abit of hope that his true feelings are being dealt with more maturely over time and he is unconsciously building a very small hidden bond with Earth, not that he would ever admit it. I hope we get mire development for Eclipse through this unique time with the crew x
Man.. I feel sorry for everyone here.. Lunar can't cry because of his powers, moon being depressed and tries to bring Solar back, and Earth is sad about not being able to see Solar again... We really need him back because we need him so much in our lives.. I like how Eclipse didn't make her feel worse and instead ask questions about Ruin. Something tells me that Eclipse will be the one who will save Solar, but we'll just have to wait and see.
23:27
“NO I want fries - and nuggets- and sweet and sour sauce 😔😔 why are you laughing at me?? 😭😭😭”
On the 23rd of March each year we must all pay tribute to Solar by remembering him in his prime. He would want us and the celestial family to remember him with happy memories and smiles. ❤❤ Rest in peace Solar, the candy corn brother and cousin no-one knew we ever need.
I have a feeling eclispe (because he was based of solars code) is gonna give up his life for solar. A potential good deed/ way atone for his crimes
The final few moments of moon being moon and not nexus the fact he and solar had such a connection to the point his death turned him evil really shows how much they loved eachother as brothers or cousins
It's interesting seeing Eclipse interact with Earth in this way because it shows he's at least sensitive enough not to go and act like a complete jerk to her with what's just happened although he doesn't go about the topic nicely either. Judging by the fact that he went to Sun and Moon's house and rubbed his finger on the floor, it seems he's doing what Puppet asked and actively trying to find a way to bring Solar back as well. Perhaps there's hope for him after all. I don't think he'll ever be a part of the family or ever want to be but maybe he can be good and I hope he does find someone who he can have a strong personal bond with. Here's to hoping
So much character development in this episode, and ECLIPSE IS FEELING PITY, AHHH-
In all seriousness, it's nice to see Eclipse caring for once, and the ACTING IS GOLDEN!!!
I've been grieving and sobbing for five days now
making edits , soon I'll draw somethings and RPing with Solar Chatbot I created on PolyAI ( it's like CharacterAI but a bit better )
poor Lunar , I think we all know that he wants to just cry and scream but he's scared of his powers acting out and getting into even more trouble
noo Lunar ;-;
you can cry , it's ok
forget what the Astrals say
you just lost your brother and you have every right to cry your animatronic heart out !
also 🥺 Lunar and Moon made up ?
that's good
Sun , Moon , Lunar and Earth need each other right now
( THE THUMBNAIL- Moon holding Solar's goggles 💔
MEGGGGGG whyyyyyyy 😭
gorgeous art though )
Monty being a sweet partner to Earth
you love to see it
also hearing Earth say she hates Ruin and is disgusted by him
wow
you know you done messed up with Earth , EARTH , says she hates you
and I'm with you Earth
I hate Ruin too ...
and you wanna know what Ruin's doing ? he's in Parts and Service watching videos in his head and just laughing like he didn't just ruin a entire family and kill their brother ...
Ruin
Disgust
Me
also I wonder why Eclipse rubbed the floor where Solar died ???
and then he went to visit Earth
that is weird though ... he's asking Earth these questions , he didn't insult her surprisingly and ...
is Eclipse getting redemption ? he's acting all the Tsundere ( that's the only word I can think of ) and like ...
Idk
it would be nice if he does
Eclipse helps bring back Solar
that'll be the start of his true redemption and I think I saw someone somewhere mention how Eclipse and Solar could be twins
I'd like to see that
and again
I like Eclipse more than Ruin now
anyways
I'm probably gonna make more edits because of this and the TSAMS episode
and sob some more
then draw something for the TSAMS Two Year Anniversary art thing
p.s : hugs for anyone who needs it ♡
I have a feeling that Eclipse could actually be changing, and Earth is the person that kickstarted that change. There's nothing that comes to my mind why he would show up and simply talk with Earth, except the idea that he actually cares. From the first day she met him, Earth has been the only person that was willing to talk and listen, and ever since they're therapy session, i wonder if he remembers how he acted when they first met and if he has any guilt. And with his visit to *the spot* i wonder if he's also working on a plan to try and bring Solar back.
"Everythings gonna be ok little brother" *sobs aggressively*
16:23 OOOHHHH that's kinda creepy..
17:16 he hesitated...HE HESITATED.
18:48 OooOooh? What was THAT reaction??? He sounds..like he's TRYING to be angry? It's almost like he's trying to act irritated to cover up whatever he's feeling..deflection?
21:35 he hesitated AGAIN! Does Earth's sadness...genuinely bother Eclipse? It doesn't seem like he cares per se, but it DOES genuinely seem like he was- effected. By her reactions, he taunted Moon. Made fun of his sadness and threw it in his face- with Earth...he just stands there and stares..like he doesn't know what to do. He just- stares. His hands almost look like they're..moving? Twitching? He seems uncomfortable. Does Eclipse..want to comfort Earth? Does it upset him to see her like this...?
What was he doing there..why does he care so much about EARTH'S reactions and feelings to all this? Is all her times of trying to reach him before coming back to pay off..?
Poor lunar
WAIT I SEE MOON HOLDING SOLARS GOGGLES 😭
1:31 "i just wish that bad things would stop happening to us" me too lunar..
16:41 eclipse what are you doing here?
11:09 THIS COUPLE- 😭
15:52 Boyfriend of the year 👏
16:54 UH- WAIT WAIT WAIT- *HOLD ON- WHY IS HE IN THEIR HOUSE?! 😨*
17:16 HE DID NOT- 😨
I feel like Earth isn’t going to be doing therapy sessions anytime soon…if she does, she’s such a trooper…everyone is. But I feel like Earth’s mental health is going to be in the worst shape
Maybe it's not sympathy, Eclipse, but empathy. At least Earth is caring about you?
Does anybody else feel like eclipse wanted to comfort earth but felt out of place to do that?
FRRRRR YES
Oml YESSSS
Lunar being the most quiet really had me weak in the heart, since he knows his powers can go crazy cause of his emotions, he's just holding them back despite the fact this hurts so bad to know someone he was so close to is gone now. In a way he's being strong about this, and that says a lot.. he can still grieve and what not with Sun and Moon while he keeps his powers in check. Poor little guy though I imagine really is having it rough inside, it's good of Sun and Moon to let Lunar stay with them.
Meanwhile Earth's grieving still hits me like a truck, the poor girl really is having it really bad.. everyone is really, but Earth is handling real rough. Monty expressing how they understands this situation with their father when they lost them also hits me so hard, it really does happen suddenly and needlessly.. It's good though that Monty tries to find a way to comfort Earth with some food, best thing right now is to just comfort her in whatever ways possible.
..But then Eclipse came in.
That was.. surprising to see to say the least, especially when he started talking to Earth, him actually not being rude or mean for once really says a lot. Even more curious he went to Sun and Moon's place earlier and checked out the area where Solar died, it's very.. unusual behavior for a guy like him to do all of this. He actually just talked with Earth and let her in a way vent out a bit of her emotions when he asked questions with Ruin and such. Wonder if he feels a sense of guilt or something.. it'd probably be really miniscule or something, but.. that was actually kinda something interesting to see from Eclipse. (Thumbnail art by the way has me weak too, the goggles in Moon's hand as everyone grieves, and Eclipse just standing at the side.. oof- we're gonna be crying for days I feel during all of this.)
Aaa
I feel so bad for lunar cause he cant properly grieve because of his powers
THEORY!!!
What if Eclipse wants to help bring Solar back??? *Eclipse redemption???*
That would be really cool but why...?
@@SunnyMilky026 It was teased on EALS a loooong time ago
@@wolfiredreamyt6217 I really hope that will happend, eclipse being good is one of my dream...
@nebula993 except we’re getting both. We’re getting this redemption, but we’re also getting getting solar back.
Eclipse getting a redemption arc?- If that’s the case it is going to take a LONG while and I’m here for it. Even if he never makes amends with everyone, at least given him the chance to heal wound be amazing because at this point, Eclipse has died or nearly died like 3 or 4 times and I remember he said he was tired at the second/what was supposed to be a permanent death and Solar flare said he DOES care but like original Moon, he doesn’t know how to show it or completely ignores the fact which makes Eclipse seemingly caring just I tiny bit for Earth all that more in terms of his growth
Lunar is really trying to hold back their emotions, they knows if they loses control they would get in even more trouble with the Astrals. But Legit what could bring Solar back? I don’t know could remnant somehow work? But that would require murdering children. Time travel maybe? This is going to take months at least. Wait Eclipse rubbed his finger on the floor and left? Kinda make me chuckle but is he trying to collect Solar dust like Monty did with Lunar??
17:39 Eclipse booty?! 😳😳
This fandom is like the hazbin hotel fandom. They despise whoever kills a loved character…
Rip. Solar and pentious
Ruin : solars dead, but I don't care ohh ebati woza Lana "R. I. P Solar you will always be in our hearts 😢😢
guys, there’s gonna be a total solar eclipse irl on april 8th, which won’t happen again for 20 years…
just saying. wouldn’t get your hopes up though 😅
is anyone else sensing character development from Eclipse..??
cause, u know.. the thumbnail and the fact that he kinda just showed up to talk to Earth not wanting to get anything from her..
u know he kinda reminded me of Solar, he kinda just stoped everything he was doing to hear Earth out and give his humble opinion.. cause Earth was always there to hear 𝘩𝘪𝘮 out, even when he said he didnt need it. but i feel like, even if he doesnt wanna admit it to himself, he appreciates it..