3:09 that is the proper way to apply the adhesive. See the gap on the cpu at the bottom left 3:09 ? Yes, you need one of those gaps for gas buildup to escape or anything the heat generates to escape. It doesn't matter where the gap is in the adhesive track as long as there is a gap for gas to escape. You did not do this, you had no gap in your adhesive, you had enough on for a full seal 5:09. Your temps might be fine and so fourth for right now, but its better to be safe than sorry. My advice is to redo the relid and add a gap in the adhesive track the size shown at 3:09.
When I delidded I left a small gap in the adhesive track, I never fully sealed it. The problems that can occur is the gas or anything else the heat generates inside the IHS can get trapped there, and if it does not have anywhere to escape it could expand enough to the point that it could contort and bend your CPU. The risk is there if you have it fully sealed, me personally would not risk that with $350 hardware.
Honestly I would recommend not even doing a full seal with a gap. Part of the reason temps are so bad initially is because of so much glue being used by Intel. Some recommend just putting 4 small dots on the corners and being done with it. I think this video shows way too much RTV being used. Personally I used a syringe+needle to apply a very thin line of RTV and even that was too much after I took the IHS off again to review. You really just need enough so the IHS doesn't move around anymore, and once you clamp down your cooler, that IHS is going nowhere.
I think you should wait at least a few hours. Although a full cure is preferable, keep in mind the IHS is locked down by the retaining clip for the socket, so it's not going anywhere.
Ok, how big of a gap? And, would it be a good idea to place the tip of a toothpick in that gap to keep the gap open as you squeeze the lid down on top of the die?
Patrick Dezenzio I'd say bout the width of your pinky. When you remove the cover you can look at the original silicone to see the gap size. I wouldn't put anything in between the IHS when clamping. You wouldn't be able to anyway if you use the Rockit.
Longest 24 hours of my life LOL! Thanks for the video! This Rockit Cool kit also makes this so easy. I used Coollabratory Liquid Ultra and also saw 20+ degree drops
InfinitePCGaming You can cut the wait by about 20 hours if you use super glue instead of the RV silicon. it also doesn't have as much of a gap between the ihs and the cpu die.
Yeah but that also means you are stuck forever with the outcome. Of course, if you get that 20+ C drop in temps with no issues, no need to ever delid but I like to have that option just in case I messed something up:-)
I just bought the delid/relid kit + the copper upgrade. I plan to lap the top of the copper upgrade and my waterblock. After going through all that trouble, it's the right thing to do. Temps should be amazing.
I have had my 7700K now for about 5 months and I have been in huge debate through ownership if I should delid or not. Technically its no big deal for me to do myself but many video walkthroughs over complicated the process that I seen so I have been putting it off a lot. Recently though I slapped 2 GTX 1080 TI Overclocks in my system in SLI and lets just say the stock temps have increased majorly due to this. I have had a stable 5ghz but temps been risky so I decided today to revisit some videos to get that "pull the trigger" push I needed to finally go all in and delid. With all that said, its your video right here that gave me the confidence that its really no big deal past the 24 hour down time to do it. So I just ordered all the products you listed here and I will begin the process next week when they arrive. Wanted to thank you for putting a very easy to understand video out, looks like a breeze so hopefully it goes that way for me next week. Figure I spent almost $5000 on my gaming pc at this stage, might as well see about getting that 5.1ghz lol...if its even possible. If not cooler temps at a solid 5ghz without having to check them all the time is worth tossing out the warranty on this chip. Thank God I work in cryptocurrency lol....or I would probably be more sketchy on diving into this final upgrade and fix for intels lack of quality in temp wrangling. Appreciate the fine tutorial, keep up the great work!!
Wyrdak I've only read about people using the silicone or crazy glue on the corner. I don't know what the effects would be on the tape due to the heat though.
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I don't know if anyone mentioned it but you forgot to make the little gap when gluing back the IHS. If you notice when deliding you can see a little gap, the IHS isn't completely glued.
Hey men, I am about to use Conductonaut on my processor. But all liquid metal thermal pastes are 100% conductive and I am very concerned about the jumpers on TOP of the processor. Check on the video at 3:31 on the bottom of the core, on left side you have 4 dotted surface jumpers. What can happen if the liquid metal slides and touches that jumpers is my concern... Anyone have seen this?
Thanks for the reply. Anyway I am thinking in using a small drop of red high temp silicone on top of the jumpers to make sure that nothing can touch them. That will assure the safety of the processor.
Thanks for the video dude. Just ordered a delid kit for my 7700K (with relid kit) and some Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut. Was a bit worried about screwing something up but the tool makes it fool-proof.
I wish I could tell you. I screwed up on the relidding and got silicone all over the chip substrate. Gonna have to find a way to get that off before I can mount the IHS properly again. It runs now but I can't really game on it because temps are not right. I had to get more liquid metal before I could try again but it's been delivered so I should be able to get it fixed soon, assuming I can get the mess of silicone off.
just did this morning as well on my 7700k using conductonaut being cooled by a 120 fan and 120 rad, dropped 15c for my stock 4.5 @ 1.25 autovolt, and dropped 19c for my 4.9 @ 1.3v. the biggest pain was cleaning the adhesive from ihs and pcb
You can eyeball it by comparing how much tape is hanging off the edge of the CPU like I did. Or once you pop off the lid you can mark down where the old thermal paste was on the lid.
you are applying silicone to relid it, if you didn't apply silicon and just left the lid on it without applying any adhesive, will it affect the thermalpaste on the chip ?
Well, I wouldn't recommend that. If you did, you'd have to worry about the liquid thermal possibly running down the chip. But to answer your question, I doubt it would affect the paste on the chip.
OK thanks for that - It's a cuticle pusher "nail art orange wood sticks" - I did say wooden stick!!! - But do you use the "wood sticks" in your de-lidding - re-lidding process?
Randy King It is possible but I wouldn't recommend it simply due to the fact the liquid could possibly flow down and damage your GPU. I Could recommend using Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut. Used that on my old 7990 with a good temp drop. Thanks for watching!
I plan to do this to my 7700k as well. I did it on my 4770k, but I did it with a vise. This time, I ordered the Rockit 88 as well & with the liquid metal. But, like what I did with 4770k, I'm just gonna leave the IHS unglued and let the CPU bracket hold it.
Very good results. I did notice that Total CPU usage dropped from 97.9% to 79.5%which I don't quite understand, and also less power draw. Can anyone elaborate as to why that is?
When you remove the IHS you'll have the old Thermal Paste on there. That'll give you an idea where to place it. The way I did it was simply placed the scotch tape with about 1/4in hanging off the sides.
Hi, thanks for the reply!!! - What is the wooden stick called then? - It is flat on one end - I ask because I will try to obtain some. Most of the other bits are on the way! - A delid tool for X99 would be great - Haswell-E and Broadwell-E - Anyway back to the wooden stick, please elaborate - Thanks
Hi, something else I need to ask you - Does the liquid metal "conductonaut" need to be "wet" when re-lidding? - eg putting the lid back on the TIM is still wet?
I'm about to delid my flu soon. But I don't know one thing. When the CPU is in the socket and in place, what thermal paste do I use on it so it sticks to the heatsink? Use the same liquid metal again? Or use the thermal compound provided with the Heatsink ?
Is it necessary to apply conductunaut on the IHS as well? Seems like an unnecessary double layering that could leak over once pressed in place. Asking because I bought a kit and all the peripherals for my 7700k early this morning and have a week before they arrive. Thanks!
M r. Hisoka I'll assume you're talking about the standoffs since you said them. I've read about this problem on Reddit before. What the person did was placed two small washers on each of the backplate inserts before aligning it into the Motherboard slots.
Was that a cocktail stick? - The wooden stick with a flat piece at one end? - I'm nearly set but won't do this for a while . Rockit 88 /99 on the way - Just need a scraper but not sure which one. Do you use isopropyl alchohol on the QTIPS / ear buds to wipe the remainder of the TIM after scraping it off? Your minus 20 degrees C is a huge improvement from your process - I'll be giving this a go on several CPU's Leaving a gap or not - One renowned over clocker attemps to get the IHS even closer to the die by sanding down the sides of IHS on the inside. This would imply leaving less of a gap would it not? Where did you get the wooden scraper stick from? - It may be better than a razor blade?
Why use the risky liquid metal when you can use the incredible Arctic MX-4 thermal compound? Also why spread it like that when you can put a dab about pea size right in the middle?
Hello again, do you imagine it would be OK to de-lid a Haswell-E processor in exactly the same way as you did the 7700K inside the Rock It Cool 88? - It is soldered but people still de-lid them - What I'm asking is if it would break the CPU with a "straight off" approach - "snap" "pop" like in the Rock it Cool 88? - Which other CPU's have you de-lidded?
Thanks for the great video! Would you happen to have a video of applying the thermal grease for your cooler? I tend to follow instructions I found on Arctic Silver's website but always like to see how different people get different results.
Aaron Taulbee For this & pretty much always with the CPU Coolers I just put a little bigger than pea sized amount on. Obviously once you put the cooler on and tighten it it'll spread itself. Thanks for watching!
Can someone answer something for me? I've made a post to Reddit and Tomshardware with no answers and i'm inpatient lol. I just did a delid of my 4670k using the razor method. This was my first time. I noticed a couple small scratches after the process which worried me. But my PC booted up with AMAZING temps. BUT, if I overclock every single game I run crashes. Is it because of those scratches? Can it be repaired? Any info would be amazing, thanks!
Well, before I delid I overclocked just fine. I in fact used my same settings. I've tried 3 different OC's in bios and even tried AI suite. I've also run Prime95 for 2 hours and Hot CPU Tester for 6 hours with no crash. At stock speeds I can play anything with no crash. I'm at a loss.
Will application of LM on the die only be sufficient? Or, do you need to apply the liquid metal on the back of the IHS too? (i.e. the side of the IHS where it sits on top of the die).
I've never really used liquid metal before, does it harden eventually or stay liquid? I know that you have to use it sparingly but is there much risk of it running after sealing and is it only bad if it touches the exposed metal contacts?
ゲーマーフィルダウス I don't see why not. You'd have to look up how the IHS was installed on your CPU. If it was regular paste or if it was soldered on. With that said I'd look up that info to help out with that.
It is too much, go watch gamers nexus video where Steve talks to der8aurer himself about it. You don't want to see any sort of pooling like you have. Looks like you have at least 2x more than whats recommended.
@@InfinitePCGaming just because it hasn't broke (yet) dosn't mean thats the right way to do it the people that made this Liquid metal say to use a tiny tiny ammount and if you had read the instructions you would have know that you used the wrong aplication tip your meant to use the metal one when apply the liquid metal.......
Check the video. He's right about the power usage. The electrones does not move as much when it is colder. At -273'C I believe they are not moving at all.
JackyBro it infact does, there is something called power leakage and it increases with temperature, lower temps means less power leakage which means lower power draw :)
What I do with the thermal grizzly conductornut is not attach the tip put my finger ontop then when I feel pressure I pull back alittle then I'll get a little bit of liquid metal and that should be enough for the IHS and DIE. Conductornut is some expensive stuff so apply alittle bit the amount still left on the die in this video is still alot. Razor delid tip Tip: if you cut a trace it scratched the PCB where you can see copper DONT POWER IT ON. get clear nail polish and apply about 2 layers before attempting to power it on.
I just bought a delidding tool but honestly after all this I wish I'd just gotten a ryzen cpu. I've spent over $250 on a new pc case and a liquid aio trying to keep this dam chip cool and nothing's working.
How do you know exactly where to tape on the IHS? Is there a vague outline that you saw or did you just freestyle it? Sorry if it's a dumb question or has been previously asked.
I'm not sure if he eyeballed it or not but it's not really that hard to do, assuming you know the size of the die. Basically a small square in the center of the IHS should be sufficient.
Dale you know, I thought I had responded to this when you posted this, but yes there was vague outline. If you use the scotch tape like I did you can eyeball it as well.
...I'm not sure we're interpreting his statement the same... if they solder the IHS to the CPU then they wouldn't need to use their stock thermal paste to make a connection between the IHS and the CPU because there's solder to make the thermal contact between the two. If that's not what he means, then yeah I agree with you.
Only if solder can actually compete with liquid metal in terms of thermal conductivity (I highly doubt it). It's not viable for customization for those that want better alternatives than solder. It is however a good compromise between those that just want better thermals but don't want to (or are afraid of) delidding.
Solder very obviously has better thermal conductivity than thermal paste or liquid metal. The CPU die and the IHS become one solid piece of metal when soldered together, which is the best case scenario for conducting heat from one to the other.
we need a test plese test this 4 termal paste , wich is better. Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut - 73 W/mk Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra - 38.4 W/mk Coollaboratory Liquid Pro - 32.6 W/mk Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut -12.5 W/mk
Enough people have said it but yea.. Too much LMETAL and you dont put thermal on the underside of the IHS ... the liquid metal will squeeze out and get onto the PCB (and its conductive)
With the benefits this brings, yes I would recommend doing it. Is it risky? Yea a little bit, but if you take your time, double/triple check tutorials all will be fine.
InfinitePCGaming OK, thanks for the response, also, just out of curiousity you should try to replace the entire lid in a cpu with a better heat conducting material, I'm curious if that will even make the tiniest of difference.
Thanks for the video. It was really compelling for 7700k owners to start their own delid process. One question aside from the purpose of this video. Would you mind sharing your overclock settings? I realize your CPU were on 5Ghz OC, but we didn't get to see your Vcore settings. Mind sharing those info as well?
Zhihao Wu Sure here you go. Sorry for the quality of pics, in a hurry. imgur.com/aNQLQbL imgur.com/PoQ5ppF imgur.com/62PPqEo imgur.com/rlMARK4 imgur.com/8kQdfvJ
iv bought shadow rock 2 the dealer said it fits to 1151lga ye it does , but the backplate cover the seals of transistors and the rest which may cause MB harming ^^
I'm doing it this morning. So scared But OMG I won't put that much silicone. I'm gonna put it with a needle. He put so much it's gonna mix with the liquid metal
OMFG completely incredible -20°C at same V and same 4.7 clock. Temps are now 69°C max at full load. I then increased V to 1.315 and clock at 4.9 but it was insta crash. I backed up at 4.8GHz and stayed at 1.315V for safety. It's stable+cool (70°C) And I don't have big temperature spikes like before. I guess my chip is bad and can't do 4.9GHz (unless maybe with 1.33V but I don't want to go that far) EVERYONE with a 7700k should do this. Especially with a really bad one like mine.
Ah what the heck, dont squirt half a gallon of gallium on your CPU X.x. I suggest becoming more dexterous or buying liquid metal that comes in a fine syringe like liquid ultra.
Jesus man amd did a lot of right things with ryzen 8 cores compared to 4 cheaper mother board since it's a pga and then they soldered the CPU for seriously amazing cooling even happier with my purchase
3:09 that is the proper way to apply the adhesive. See the gap on the cpu at the bottom left 3:09 ? Yes, you need one of those gaps for gas buildup to escape or anything the heat generates to escape. It doesn't matter where the gap is in the adhesive track as long as there is a gap for gas to escape.
You did not do this, you had no gap in your adhesive, you had enough on for a full seal 5:09. Your temps might be fine and so fourth for right now, but its better to be safe than sorry. My advice is to redo the relid and add a gap in the adhesive track the size shown at 3:09.
When I delidded I left a small gap in the adhesive track, I never fully sealed it. The problems that can occur is the gas or anything else the heat generates inside the IHS can get trapped there, and if it does not have anywhere to escape it could expand enough to the point that it could contort and bend your CPU.
The risk is there if you have it fully sealed, me personally would not risk that with $350 hardware.
xcharlesy I haven't experienced anything yet but I'll redo this seal again with a wider gap like the stock seal.
Ztaruc Thanks for commenting on the video, pinned you previous comment. Going to add annotations in the video.
Honestly I would recommend not even doing a full seal with a gap. Part of the reason temps are so bad initially is because of so much glue being used by Intel. Some recommend just putting 4 small dots on the corners and being done with it. I think this video shows way too much RTV being used.
Personally I used a syringe+needle to apply a very thin line of RTV and even that was too much after I took the IHS off again to review. You really just need enough so the IHS doesn't move around anymore, and once you clamp down your cooler, that IHS is going nowhere.
I think you should wait at least a few hours. Although a full cure is preferable, keep in mind the IHS is locked down by the retaining clip for the socket, so it's not going anywhere.
Don't forget to leave a air gap when you put the silicone back on!
Nice vid.
thetyranic Indeed, I'll add an annotation in the video to point this out. Thanks for watching!
Ok, how big of a gap? And, would it be a good idea to place the tip of a toothpick in that gap to keep the gap open as you squeeze the lid down on top of the die?
Patrick Dezenzio I'd say bout the width of your pinky. When you remove the cover you can look at the original silicone to see the gap size. I wouldn't put anything in between the IHS when clamping. You wouldn't be able to anyway if you use the Rockit.
This is definitely the best 7700K delid video that I've watched so far.
Jos Geerink Thanks! Any ideas to improve let me know. Thanks for watching!
Jos Geerink agreed
Only thing i'm missing in the video is the paste that you use between IHS and cooler. Hope it's also Conductonaut (and also was before comparison)
Matej Dian No I did not put Conductonaut between the IHS and Cooler. Only used Hydronaut.
Jos Geerink Guys is it safe to delid the 7700k?
Longest 24 hours of my life LOL! Thanks for the video! This Rockit Cool kit also makes this so easy. I used Coollabratory Liquid Ultra and also saw 20+ degree drops
lol, The wait sucks but obviously at the end of the day, worth the wait. Thanks for watching!
InfinitePCGaming You can cut the wait by about 20 hours if you use super glue instead of the RV silicon. it also doesn't have as much of a gap between the ihs and the cpu die.
Yeah but that also means you are stuck forever with the outcome. Of course, if you get that 20+ C drop in temps with no issues, no need to ever delid but I like to have that option just in case I messed something up:-)
I just bought the delid/relid kit + the copper upgrade. I plan to lap the top of the copper upgrade and my waterblock. After going through all that trouble, it's the right thing to do. Temps should be amazing.
WAYYYY too much applied on the IHS and the Die of the cpu....
Just did this to my 7700k last week. The temperature drops are UNREAL. Went from 70 deg overnight prime95 at stock to 50 deg same conditions.
Battloid.kouji Yea it's amazing how much the temp drops. Thanks for watching!
I have had my 7700K now for about 5 months and I have been in huge debate through ownership if I should delid or not. Technically its no big deal for me to do myself but many video walkthroughs over complicated the process that I seen so I have been putting it off a lot. Recently though I slapped 2 GTX 1080 TI Overclocks in my system in SLI and lets just say the stock temps have increased majorly due to this. I have had a stable 5ghz but temps been risky so I decided today to revisit some videos to get that "pull the trigger" push I needed to finally go all in and delid. With all that said, its your video right here that gave me the confidence that its really no big deal past the 24 hour down time to do it. So I just ordered all the products you listed here and I will begin the process next week when they arrive. Wanted to thank you for putting a very easy to understand video out, looks like a breeze so hopefully it goes that way for me next week.
Figure I spent almost $5000 on my gaming pc at this stage, might as well see about getting that 5.1ghz lol...if its even possible. If not cooler temps at a solid 5ghz without having to check them all the time is worth tossing out the warranty on this chip. Thank God I work in cryptocurrency lol....or I would probably be more sketchy on diving into this final upgrade and fix for intels lack of quality in temp wrangling. Appreciate the fine tutorial, keep up the great work!!
Do I have to reseal the IHS with silicone? Can't I just put a double-sided tape there? Just on top and bottom to leave tiny air gaps on the sides.
Wyrdak I've only read about people using the silicone or crazy glue on the corner. I don't know what the effects would be on the tape due to the heat though.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it but you forgot to make the little gap when gluing back the IHS. If you notice when deliding you can see a little gap, the IHS isn't completely glued.
Hey men, I am about to use Conductonaut on my processor. But all liquid metal thermal pastes are 100% conductive and I am very concerned about the jumpers on TOP of the processor. Check on the video at 3:31 on the bottom of the core, on left side you have 4 dotted surface jumpers. What can happen if the liquid metal slides and touches that jumpers is my concern... Anyone have seen this?
Marco Ratto Olsen As long as you don't put on a lot, which you don't have to, you'll be fine.
Thanks for the reply. Anyway I am thinking in using a small drop of red high temp silicone on top of the jumpers to make sure that nothing can touch them. That will assure the safety of the processor.
@@MarkROlsen86 you just paint around the die with clear nail polish....
@@invoke4485 I already did the delid about 1 year ago man... haha
@@InfinitePCGaming I never said thanks ! Using this video 1 year ago I did my Delid. This are the results: pcpartpicker.com/b/rb29TW
Is it OK if alcohol gets onto the green PCB of the die? - eg won't cause damage? - Do you avoid alcohol on the PCB of the die when cleaning it up?
Thanks for the video dude. Just ordered a delid kit for my 7700K (with relid kit) and some Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut. Was a bit worried about screwing something up but the tool makes it fool-proof.
VenomStryker Indeed it does. How's the CPU and temps?
I wish I could tell you. I screwed up on the relidding and got silicone all over the chip substrate. Gonna have to find a way to get that off before I can mount the IHS properly again. It runs now but I can't really game on it because temps are not right. I had to get more liquid metal before I could try again but it's been delivered so I should be able to get it fixed soon, assuming I can get the mess of silicone off.
just did this morning as well on my 7700k using conductonaut being cooled by a 120 fan and 120 rad, dropped 15c for my stock 4.5 @ 1.25 autovolt, and dropped 19c for my 4.9 @ 1.3v. the biggest pain was cleaning the adhesive from ihs and pcb
How do you know where to apply the LM on the underside of the die? Can you do it without applying it on the underside?
You can eyeball it by comparing how much tape is hanging off the edge of the CPU like I did. Or once you pop off the lid you can mark down where the old thermal paste was on the lid.
you are applying silicone to relid it, if you didn't apply silicon and just left the lid on it without applying any adhesive, will it affect the thermalpaste on the chip ?
Well, I wouldn't recommend that. If you did, you'd have to worry about the liquid thermal possibly running down the chip. But to answer your question, I doubt it would affect the paste on the chip.
I've watched this like 6 times already, de-lidding my cpu tomorrow, first time doing it and kind of excited about it too
OK thanks for that - It's a cuticle pusher "nail art orange wood sticks" - I did say wooden stick!!! - But do you use the "wood sticks" in your de-lidding - re-lidding process?
I only used the sticks to remove the old silicone from the IHS and CPU.
can i use this on my MSI GTX 1080 gaming X card? I'm getting temps around 85-89 C and want it to run cooler without liquid cooling.
Randy King It is possible but I wouldn't recommend it simply due to the fact the liquid could possibly flow down and damage your GPU. I Could recommend using Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut. Used that on my old 7990 with a good temp drop. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info will do!
Anyone have info on how long this Grizzly Conductonaut last before losing performance ?
Actmo Mode I can say I had mine on from February up until I sold the 7700k in November with no problems. Stayed clocked at 5Ghz.
I plan to do this to my 7700k as well. I did it on my 4770k, but I did it with a vise. This time, I ordered the Rockit 88 as well & with the liquid metal. But, like what I did with 4770k, I'm just gonna leave the IHS unglued and let the CPU bracket hold it.
Isny thermal grizzly eating the IHS. Saw some saying its corroding the lid material. Is this wrong? Most I see are using it on gpus.
yes that wrong liquid metal only eats aluminum
Very good results. I did notice that Total CPU usage dropped from 97.9% to 79.5%which I don't quite understand, and also less power draw. Can anyone elaborate as to why that is?
Maybe it helped keep it cooler which in turn helped with electrical efficiency, which in turn helps keep down temps?
How do you measure where to put the liquid metal on the IHS?
When you remove the IHS you'll have the old Thermal Paste on there. That'll give you an idea where to place it. The way I did it was simply placed the scotch tape with about 1/4in hanging off the sides.
Men's why should do this how long can use after deliding this cpu.5 year or 10 years or just a few months.
How did you remove the silicon from the chip green plate?
niccoc1603 Just rub it off like I did with the stick, then clean anything else off with the alcohol.
+birchfresh You can simply leave the CPU in the delidder and place something on top of the IHS to hold it down. Just keep it in a safe spot.
any chance of a north bridge south bridge benchmarks on liquid cooled cause it would be potentially useful
gallium huh.
I wonder if amalgam could be used if temp wasn't an issue.
Hi, thanks for the reply!!! - What is the wooden stick called then? - It is flat on one end - I ask because I will try to obtain some.
Most of the other bits are on the way! - A delid tool for X99 would be great - Haswell-E and Broadwell-E - Anyway back to the wooden stick, please elaborate - Thanks
my channel Finally found it. It's a Nail/Cuticle Pusher. Something like this
www.amazon.com/Orange-Cuticle-Remover-Manicure-Pedicure/dp/B009WLX83Y
Hi, something else I need to ask you - Does the liquid metal "conductonaut" need to be "wet" when re-lidding? - eg putting the lid back on the TIM is still wet?
I'm about to delid my flu soon. But I don't know one thing. When the CPU is in the socket and in place, what thermal paste do I use on it so it sticks to the heatsink? Use the same liquid metal again? Or use the thermal compound provided with the Heatsink ?
Hotfrost Use Thermal Paste provided by your Coolers heatsinks. I didn't use the Liquid Thermal between the CPU and Cooler.
i think my 7700 came pre de lidded from overclockers, as it was stated as a oem binned cpu without the proper retail packaging like the others
Is it necessary to apply conductunaut on the IHS as well? Seems like an unnecessary double layering that could leak over once pressed in place. Asking because I bought a kit and all the peripherals for my 7700k early this morning and have a week before they arrive. Thanks!
Greg Olsen It is not necessary. You could use any other regular Thermal Paste you want. I used Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut.
hi i have 7700k and i got temp problem it can you help me plz ?
What's up
InfinitePCGaming my 7700k is 50 degree on idle and its on stock. I got nzxt kraken x52 and my case is corsair 460x and my mb is asus z270e
I'd double check your install of the cooler, make sure the standoffs are down all the way.
InfinitePCGaming i see i little gap between them i try to push it as far as i can but couldnt make it perfect
M r. Hisoka I'll assume you're talking about the standoffs since you said them. I've read about this problem on Reddit before. What the person did was placed two small washers on each of the backplate inserts before aligning it into the Motherboard slots.
Was that a cocktail stick? - The wooden stick with a flat piece at one end? - I'm nearly set but won't do this for a while . Rockit 88 /99 on the way - Just need a scraper but not sure which one.
Do you use isopropyl alchohol on the QTIPS / ear buds to wipe the remainder of the TIM after scraping it off?
Your minus 20 degrees C is a huge improvement from your process - I'll be giving this a go on several CPU's
Leaving a gap or not - One renowned over clocker attemps to get the IHS even closer to the die by sanding down the sides of IHS on the inside. This would imply leaving less of a gap would it not?
Where did you get the wooden scraper stick from? - It may be better than a razor blade?
my channel If that's what the woodden stick is called then yes lol. Yes I used the airhose alcohol on the q tips to remove the remainder TIM.
Really well detailed video. Thanks for taking the time to create this.
s000muk And thanks for watching!
Why use the risky liquid metal when you can use the incredible Arctic MX-4 thermal compound? Also why spread it like that when you can put a dab about pea size right in the middle?
You should use polish for this gold element on left corner near core.
Best video on delidding by far. Great job !
Hello again, do you use alcohol on the green PCB with QTIPS?
If there's any debris on it sure.
Hello again, do you imagine it would be OK to de-lid a Haswell-E processor in exactly the same way as you did the 7700K inside the Rock It Cool 88? - It is soldered but people still de-lid them - What I'm asking is if it would break the CPU with a "straight off" approach - "snap" "pop" like in the Rock it Cool 88? - Which other CPU's have you de-lidded?
Thanks for the great video! Would you happen to have a video of applying the thermal grease for your cooler? I tend to follow instructions I found on Arctic Silver's website but always like to see how different people get different results.
Aaron Taulbee For this & pretty much always with the CPU Coolers I just put a little bigger than pea sized amount on. Obviously once you put the cooler on and tighten it it'll spread itself. Thanks for watching!
Tutorial overclock in your motherboard please? i have this mother
How long will liquid metal last before it dry up?
Amin Roazman It doesn't. My 7700k still going strong with low temps.
InfinitePCGaming nice. This is one of the best delid tutorials. Short, precise and easy to understand. Well done and i subscribed :)
Amin Roazman Thanks for watching and thanks for the Sub! :)
did u also use the grizzly conductonaut on the cpu be4 putting on your cooling solution ?
Nomy George No, for that I used Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut. Thanks for watching!
Why use silicone at all? Just put the bottom half in socket, then place on the IHS dry, and clamp it down.
Can someone answer something for me? I've made a post to Reddit and Tomshardware with no answers and i'm inpatient lol. I just did a delid of my 4670k using the razor method. This was my first time. I noticed a couple small scratches after the process which worried me. But my PC booted up with AMAZING temps. BUT, if I overclock every single game I run crashes. Is it because of those scratches? Can it be repaired? Any info would be amazing, thanks!
I'd say you probably need to play with your VCore. You'll need to run some stress tests to find the right vcore.
Well, before I delid I overclocked just fine. I in fact used my same settings. I've tried 3 different OC's in bios and even tried AI suite. I've also run Prime95 for 2 hours and Hot CPU Tester for 6 hours with no crash. At stock speeds I can play anything with no crash. I'm at a loss.
SageNemesis So strange. I recently had the same problem but with my Ryzen 1800x. Overclocked and games will crash, go back to stock and games work.
Now games are crashing at stock speeds. I think my cpu is done for.
Perfect vid. Thanks. Can't wait to do this on the weekend on my 7700k and my bro's 6600k
Do you need to apply the liquid metal on the IHS too? I've seen it done both ways and don't know which one is "better"
No you do not, which is why I used the thermal paste.
Will application of LM on the die only be sufficient? Or, do you need to apply the liquid metal on the back of the IHS too? (i.e. the side of the IHS where it sits on top of the die).
Asianboi231 I put it on both sides that way I was certain is was making contact.
I've never really used liquid metal before, does it harden eventually or stay liquid? I know that you have to use it sparingly but is there much risk of it running after sealing and is it only bad if it touches the exposed metal contacts?
does the grizzy liquid metal have to be re applied.
It will need to be re-applied only if you start noticing your temps going up. Thanks for watching.
I don't think you need to go through the trouble of re-sealing the IHS. The mobo bracket will hold it in place once locked.
the x299 chips are supposed to run hotter would deliding and putting on metal tim make them run cooler
You have the top relid tool on upside down
can liquid metal be clean ?
can i use it on laptop ?
ゲーマーフィルダウス Yes it can be cleaned.
can it be use in laptop ?
ゲーマーフィルダウス I don't see why not. You'd have to look up how the IHS was installed on your CPU. If it was regular paste or if it was soldered on. With that said I'd look up that info to help out with that.
will that liquid metal dry ?
ゲーマーフィルダウス Nope. And you'll only have to replace it if you start noticing temps going back up.
I want to delid my 4790k but just not sure if I want to risk it x_x
Way too much L.Metal
Nope.
It is too much, go watch gamers nexus video where Steve talks to der8aurer himself about it. You don't want to see any sort of pooling like you have. Looks like you have at least 2x more than whats recommended.
NightRush It was fine. Ran it for 6 months no problem.
@@InfinitePCGaming just because it hasn't broke (yet) dosn't mean thats the right way to do it the people that made this Liquid metal say to use a tiny tiny ammount and if you had read the instructions you would have know that you used the wrong aplication tip your meant to use the metal one when apply the liquid metal.......
@@InfinitePCGaming It's too much, you were lucky that the intel has no resistance there.
Very informative with great tips. Thanks for uploading this.
Scott Giebel Thanks and thanks for watching!
Where do I get silicone?
Konstantin Sokolov Can grab it at an Auto Parts store, Home Depot, Lowe's.
I live in the middle of nowhere part of Norway, I'm just not sure if it's safe to use the same type as they use to secure windows and shit XD
Konstantin Sokolov Honestly that should work no problem as well lol Thanks for watching!
Your maximum power usage has also dropped. So now you have a more efficient CPU.
Bliv AK delidding doesn't lower the power usage...
Check the video. He's right about the power usage. The electrones does not move as much when it is colder. At -273'C I believe they are not moving at all.
JackyBro it infact does, there is something called power leakage and it increases with temperature, lower temps means less power leakage which means lower power draw :)
What I do with the thermal grizzly conductornut is not attach the tip put my finger ontop then when I feel pressure I pull back alittle then I'll get a little bit of liquid metal and that should be enough for the IHS and DIE. Conductornut is some expensive stuff so apply alittle bit the amount still left on the die in this video is still alot.
Razor delid tip Tip: if you cut a trace it scratched the PCB where you can see copper DONT POWER IT ON. get clear nail polish and apply about 2 layers before attempting to power it on.
What material is the "lid" made of?
Lindeman08 its copper
Thanks for the reply but it also has to be plated with something, right?
yeah i think its nickel plated.
I just bought a delidding tool but honestly after all this I wish I'd just gotten a ryzen cpu. I've spent over $250 on a new pc case and a liquid aio trying to keep this dam chip cool and nothing's working.
How do you know exactly where to tape on the IHS? Is there a vague outline that you saw or did you just freestyle it? Sorry if it's a dumb question or has been previously asked.
I'm not sure if he eyeballed it or not but it's not really that hard to do, assuming you know the size of the die. Basically a small square in the center of the IHS should be sufficient.
Dale you know, I thought I had responded to this when you posted this, but yes there was vague outline. If you use the scotch tape like I did you can eyeball it as well.
Jason Gehringer see above comment. I could have sworn I commented back on this.
DUDE!!! This is amazing!! best video showing such steps for sure!! Thank you tons! can you do a 6800K??
Muhammed Saad Sure, send me a 6800k first!
Hahaha would love to xD, that metal liquid cooling looks like magic!!
AHHAHAHA
iKiLLa12 Ay I don't know where your previous comment went but I used the 1150 Re-Lid Kit. $8
InfinitePCGaming isn't the 6800k soldered?
Jesus christ, when will Intel solder the fucking IHS.
You are paying $500-$1000 for high end i7/i9's and solder is dirt cheap.
...I'm not sure we're interpreting his statement the same...
if they solder the IHS to the CPU then they wouldn't need to use their stock thermal paste to make a connection between the IHS and the CPU because there's solder to make the thermal contact between the two.
If that's not what he means, then yeah I agree with you.
Only if solder can actually compete with liquid metal in terms of thermal conductivity (I highly doubt it). It's not viable for customization for those that want better alternatives than solder. It is however a good compromise between those that just want better thermals but don't want to (or are afraid of) delidding.
Solder very obviously has better thermal conductivity than thermal paste or liquid metal. The CPU die and the IHS become one solid piece of metal when soldered together, which is the best case scenario for conducting heat from one to the other.
What kind of video recorder was used to film this, VHS or BETA?
Jim Norrison AMPEX quadruplex VR-1000A. Thanks for watching.
Now after delidding, do you think the 7700k upgrade was worth it?
This was a really nice video.
How are you so confident in taping a rectangle on your IHS?
Philly L Seeing as only a bit of tape hung off the CPU, I just did the same for the IHS. Thanks for watching!
What TIM did you use between the IHS and the cpu coolers cold plate?
nanodrolone Thermo Grizzly Hydronaut.
This was a really good procedural video.
spork8655 Thanks. Any improvements I can make to help future videos let me know. Thanks for watching!
you test it with Prime or OCCT?
I used programs recommended by ASUS. I don't care for Prime95 to be honest.
@@InfinitePCGaming why its a well know program for testing cpu stability
forgot to leave a fucking air gap fml.. do i have to do it again ? was a pretty thin layer of gasker silicon tho..
It'll be okay. If you're going to worry about it, do it over again.
what gap are you talking about?
At 3:07 if you look above the word bubble you'll see a small gap that doesn't have any silicon.
Did your idle temp also go down as much?
Daniel Komarov They went down a little but definitely not 20*.
InfinitePCGaming Ok!
For comparison, here is the "Thermal Conductivity" values for comparison:
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut - 73 W/mk
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra - 38.4 W/mk
Coollaboratory Liquid Pro - 32.6 W/mk
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut -12.5 W/mk
Gelid GC-Extreme - 8.5 W/mk
ARCTIC MX-4 - 8.5 W/(mK)
Vitamin Multi So there isn't an 80 w/mk for Coollaboratory Ultra/Pro?
we need a test plese test this 4 termal paste , wich is better.
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut - 73 W/mk
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra - 38.4 W/mk
Coollaboratory Liquid Pro - 32.6 W/mk
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut -12.5 W/mk
Enough people have said it but yea..
Too much LMETAL and you dont put thermal on the underside of the IHS ... the liquid metal will squeeze out and get onto the PCB (and its conductive)
what cooller do you use?
alex g Corsair H100i GTX
did you also apply the fluid metal paste between cpu and cpu cooler?
HansImWald Nope. For that I used the Hydronaut Thermal Paste.
May I ask why?
HansImWald liquid metal tim can damage the coolers cold plate
How risky is this? Would you reccomend it?
With the benefits this brings, yes I would recommend doing it. Is it risky? Yea a little bit, but if you take your time, double/triple check tutorials all will be fine.
InfinitePCGaming OK, thanks for the response, also, just out of curiousity you should try to replace the entire lid in a cpu with a better heat conducting material, I'm curious if that will even make the tiniest of difference.
How much of a benefit would this give to an i5 7600k?
wich cooler do you have?
Chilltzone Corsair H100i GTX
thank you man.
Chilltzone No prob. Thanks for watching!
Have you paste Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut to Corsair H100i GTX too or no?
Fazer softi No, I used the Hydronaut paste in between the CPU and Cooler.
Thanks for the video. It was really compelling for 7700k owners to start their own delid process.
One question aside from the purpose of this video. Would you mind sharing your overclock settings?
I realize your CPU were on 5Ghz OC, but we didn't get to see your Vcore settings. Mind sharing those info as well?
Zhihao Wu Sure here you go. Sorry for the quality of pics, in a hurry.
imgur.com/aNQLQbL
imgur.com/PoQ5ppF
imgur.com/62PPqEo
imgur.com/rlMARK4
imgur.com/8kQdfvJ
Thanks mate!
Zhihao Wu No problem, here's a good guide on how to Overclock it as well edgeup.asus.com/2017/01/31/kaby-lake-overclocking-guide/
Great video, and what do you mean by this? "WHEN APPLYING NEW RTV SEAL YOU MUST LEAVE AN AIR GAP!!"? why?
what game was that?
SomeHooligan Watch Dogs 2
Honestly didn't think you'd be the one to reply. nice video btw ;) subbed for the quick hands. Thank you.
where did you buy your cpu from?
GBTech NewEgg
WAAAAAAY too much of the Liquid metal paste... ohh yezzz
MotoK tips All is fine. Video makes it look like a pool.
Great video! What cpu cooler do you use?
Xypher Corsair H100i GTX. Thanks for watching!
what cpu cooler did you use?
Chelio Christmass Corsair H100i GTX
ow thinked about that one but its not recomended for 1151 lga
Chelio Christmass Never heard of that but I'll say the Temps have been fine.
iv bought shadow rock 2 the dealer said it fits to 1151lga ye it does , but the backplate cover the seals of transistors and the rest which may cause MB harming ^^
I'm doing it this morning. So scared
But OMG I won't put that much silicone. I'm gonna put it with a needle. He put so much it's gonna mix with the liquid metal
Good luck.
I'm back online! Everything works fine I'm gonna update this comment with the temps after the tests.
Pow3rus Sweeeeeet. Hopefully a big temp drop!
OMFG completely incredible -20°C at same V and same 4.7 clock. Temps are now 69°C max at full load.
I then increased V to 1.315 and clock at 4.9 but it was insta crash.
I backed up at 4.8GHz and stayed at 1.315V for safety. It's stable+cool (70°C)
And I don't have big temperature spikes like before.
I guess my chip is bad and can't do 4.9GHz (unless maybe with 1.33V but I don't want to go that far)
EVERYONE with a 7700k should do this. Especially with a really bad one like mine.
Pow3rus Glad everything worked out!
o0 it's not thermal grease. it's galium.
Thanks, looks great ... however I am scared of doing it by myself.
Confidence is key. It's super easy. This video was my first time doing a delid or using liquid thermal.
Ah what the heck, dont squirt half a gallon of gallium on your CPU X.x.
I suggest becoming more dexterous or buying liquid metal that comes in a fine syringe like liquid ultra.
should be higher temp drop ~25°
ZeroAlytus It hits that a few times. Thanks for watching.
ZeroAlytus he had a 26c drop he just said 20+ but he was 88c before and 62 after
Yes I see you do!
cool dude, nice work^^
Stux com Thanks and thanks for watching!
I've not heard of this "scatch" tape.
Thats just way way way too much liquid metal on the die and ihs.
+1 for too much liquid metal, paint the die and the ihs, with a light layer, if you are seeing pools of LM... Too much!
Jesus man amd did a lot of right things with ryzen 8 cores compared to 4 cheaper mother board since it's a pga and then they soldered the CPU for seriously amazing cooling even happier with my purchase
good vid!
asus1201n Thank you and thanks for watching!