Under the radar WR Giles Jackson 5'9 190 Washington 4.36 (watched tape of bowl game versus Louisville) and DE TJ Jackson II 6'1 282 West Virginia 6.5 sacks and LB Cody Simon 6'2 235 Ohio State (I believe 8 sacks).
8:06 Im no steelers fan, but between the Pickens trade rumors & what i see Steelers fans saying about Tomlin, id love to see this trade: Raiders Send: 2025 Round 3 2026 Round 2 2027 Round 3 Steelers Send: Mike Tomlin George Pickens Raiders need a HC & Pickens/Jakobi/Bowers could be a fantastic trio for a developing rookie QB
Sleepers by position- Secondary- Jabbar Muhammad/Malachi Moore/Upton Stout(5’9 but kid makes big plays non stop) LB- Lander Barton is a freak/Eric Gentry could be a star/JDJ(UGA/Kentucky) DL-Harmon(yea rd2 ranking but should be top 15)Deone Walker (6’6 360- could be all pro if right coaches)Darius Alexander- Has IT. Edge/DE/OLB-K.Rucker/J.Stewart both 6’1-245 smaller edges but can make plays non stop. E.Roberts- Huge DE and can do it all. Strong as hell.. P.Webb- Elite run stopper with Elite first step speed. Year or two teaching could make him a consistent edge rusher yearly.. 2 players I don’t get why they r so low r Kyle Kennard and Jared Ivey. Makes no sense.. OL- Wyatt Milum is best OL in draft n will be for his career/Ozzy Trap-Holl Pierce-Jack Nelson- 6’7 and higher all in great shape n if a coach like eagles OL coach Stoutman gets one they could be Mailata type growth… Chase Lundt to me could be a true Elite LT in the league for a long time.. at worst he is a 2-3 time pro bowler..also Seth McLaughlin should be 2-3 rounder easily. Can play immediately(Falcons should let Dalman walk n take him at 116 or higher n save a lot of cap) TE- Oronde can f’ing play man. All around baller/Nesbit has True all around athlete ability and with the right coaching and blocking help- could be very good. Could be legit bigger wide out. WR-Royals is known for speed but is a cross between Ladd and Polk to me. Tez Johnson should be 1st/2nd round pick. His route running is legit and speed+hands are nfl wr1 caliber. Shocked he isn’t way higher.. Tory Horton and Ricky White Taller fast West coast WRs.. both can seperate and go up. Both playing with subpar QBs. Both have limited release packages in rr but can seperate and create open land which is qb fav place to throw. Deep sleeper- julian fleming transferred to PSU from OSU n used to be a top prospect.. elite speed n Elite Vertical.. worth a flyer.. worth a reach too. Agiye Hall has possibly the best stride at 6’3 and running a 4.3…. Dude could be elite or a nobody. QB- Will Howard has grown so much as a passer.. if given one or two years to sit/learn to perfect his throwing motion. Could see as a lower tier starter/very good back up or spot starter who can make elite plays with his legs. Donovan Smith: I don’t kno why but I see a top 18 starter who can grow/take hits/make every throw. Not crazy strong arm but enough. Tommy Mellott could be a good player- elite runner/physical specimen.. gym guy/strong as hell and never scared to take a hit. Reads defense well and can make 0-25 yard throws very well. Just needs work on deep ball and out balls. But his legs r special. Maybe Taysom hill type
Another guy like Fannin Jr is Oronde Gadson II TE Stanford similar size and not a great inline blocker projects more as a big slot WR in the NFL. Good hands and yac ability
Lack of Height usually means shorter arm length and to play OT in the NFL there is a minimum arm length that must be met. If you miss on that arm length you're not playing OT and therefore you definitely can't be taken top 10 to 15 in the draft. Most likely not even in the first round.
I wonder if the Patriots would make that trade. Vrabel is the kind of guy that might be able to get through to Pickens and I think they are itching to dumb that 4th pick for assets maybe A pick swap for Pickens a 2 nd this year and a 1st next? Maybe a bit rich but beggars can’t be choosers
Please educate me, give me the name of an NFL coach who never won a playoff game in 9 years and kept his job. This is a serious inquire because I cannot think of one especially in the SB era. If you cannot name one then why is Tomlin getting all this support (to remain in Pitt) ? If you can name one (two, three or four) then thanks Tomlin needs a new scene and Pitt does too.
Make a list of nfl coaches who coached at least 9 years. Then take that list and remove all that have losing records. If there are any left after that take that list of one with winning records who also made the playoffs more times than not. I’m not sure but if you follow these steps tomlin is either the last one left or one of like 5 at most.
Rick is such an ass, clowning the other guy and trying to big boy him. One of my favorite draft analysts, Connor over at pff has Membou as his number 1 tackle btw.
The real Dumb BUCKET is if Tomlin is so outstandingly good coach as you claim, why in 18 years in Pittsburgh haven’t drafted and developed ONE Qb??? Did someone forget to tell him Ben R. was not playing forever???? You should put that dumb bucket on top of your heads.
Does anyone like Rick Spielman - snide narcissist? Liger tired of the incessant put downs and wish he’d be replaced. He was a lousy GM and an expert in his own mind but the Vikings saw through him.
The dumbest argument for retaining Mike Tomlin is still the one most used by people outside of Pittsburgh. He would get hired immediately. Great! Good for Mike. Don't most coaches fall under that reality?
Mike takes a 4 to 6 win team talent-wise to a 8-10 win team. Pittsburgh needs talent so maybe they want to find a loser to put them in position to acquire it?
Great show! (As Commanders fans, we thank you so much for your help Rick!!)
More draft talk please!!! Players vs Players strengths. Best games watched. Thanks men!!!
Under the radar WR Giles Jackson 5'9 190 Washington 4.36 (watched tape of bowl game versus Louisville) and DE TJ Jackson II 6'1 282 West Virginia 6.5 sacks and LB Cody Simon 6'2 235 Ohio State (I believe 8 sacks).
Love your banter. Really fun. Fannin doesn’t block at all, so isn’t he a big slot WR in usage?
I miss Ryan and Rick! Thank you gentlemen!
Bye far this is the best duo
Left guard Michael Gonzalez out of Louisville just flying under the radar , whoever drafts him is getting a dawg in the trenches
My Bengals need as many "trench monsters" as we can get so we'll take him
As a Louisville fan I agree
8:06
Im no steelers fan, but between the Pickens trade rumors & what i see Steelers fans saying about Tomlin, id love to see this trade:
Raiders Send:
2025 Round 3
2026 Round 2
2027 Round 3
Steelers Send:
Mike Tomlin
George Pickens
Raiders need a HC & Pickens/Jakobi/Bowers could be a fantastic trio for a developing rookie QB
Dart is your 3rd QB taken followed by the fast rising Will Howard.
Kelvin Beachum OT is only 6’3, still playing well at 35 years old
DJ Giddens is Going to be a star in the NFL.
i like ricks personality . these 2 are great together. nice guy plays off a curmudgeon .
Sleepers by position-
Secondary- Jabbar Muhammad/Malachi Moore/Upton Stout(5’9 but kid makes big plays non stop)
LB- Lander Barton is a freak/Eric Gentry could be a star/JDJ(UGA/Kentucky)
DL-Harmon(yea rd2 ranking but should be top 15)Deone Walker (6’6 360- could be all pro if right coaches)Darius Alexander- Has IT.
Edge/DE/OLB-K.Rucker/J.Stewart both 6’1-245 smaller edges but can make plays non stop. E.Roberts- Huge DE and can do it all. Strong as hell.. P.Webb- Elite run stopper with Elite first step speed. Year or two teaching could make him a consistent edge rusher yearly..
2 players I don’t get why they r so low r
Kyle Kennard and Jared Ivey. Makes no sense..
OL- Wyatt Milum is best OL in draft n will be for his career/Ozzy Trap-Holl Pierce-Jack Nelson- 6’7 and higher all in great shape n if a coach like eagles OL coach Stoutman gets one they could be Mailata type growth… Chase Lundt to me could be a true Elite LT in the league for a long time.. at worst he is a 2-3 time pro bowler..also Seth McLaughlin should be 2-3 rounder easily. Can play immediately(Falcons should let Dalman walk n take him at 116 or higher n save a lot of cap)
TE- Oronde can f’ing play man. All around baller/Nesbit has True all around athlete ability and with the right coaching and blocking help- could be very good. Could be legit bigger wide out.
WR-Royals is known for speed but is a cross between Ladd and Polk to me. Tez Johnson should be 1st/2nd round pick. His route running is legit and speed+hands are nfl wr1 caliber. Shocked he isn’t way higher..
Tory Horton and Ricky White Taller fast West coast WRs.. both can seperate and go up. Both playing with subpar QBs. Both have limited release packages in rr but can seperate and create open land which is qb fav place to throw. Deep sleeper- julian fleming transferred to PSU from OSU n used to be a top prospect.. elite speed n Elite Vertical.. worth a flyer.. worth a reach too. Agiye Hall has possibly the best stride at 6’3 and running a 4.3…. Dude could be elite or a nobody.
QB- Will Howard has grown so much as a passer.. if given one or two years to sit/learn to perfect his throwing motion. Could see as a lower tier starter/very good back up or spot starter who can make elite plays with his legs.
Donovan Smith: I don’t kno why but I see a top 18 starter who can grow/take hits/make every throw. Not crazy strong arm but enough. Tommy Mellott could be a good player- elite runner/physical specimen.. gym guy/strong as hell and never scared to take a hit. Reads defense well and can make 0-25 yard throws very well. Just needs work on deep ball and out balls. But his legs r special. Maybe Taysom hill type
Another guy like Fannin Jr is Oronde Gadson II TE Stanford similar size and not a great inline blocker projects more as a big slot WR in the NFL. Good hands and yac ability
Lack of Height usually means shorter arm length and to play OT in the NFL there is a minimum arm length that must be met. If you miss on that arm length you're not playing OT and therefore you definitely can't be taken top 10 to 15 in the draft. Most likely not even in the first round.
Rick mentioning claire every 5 mins😭
cam ward comp.....is ...steve mcnair ..your welcome lol.
Anybody you suggest the NY Giants take a shot at?!
098 is mornic thank you Rick.
Evers underthrows all his deep routes.
First time listener, Rick has an extremely over-inflated ego of himself. Membou is going top-20 and is the top RT in the draft.
Rick - the epitome of enthusiasm. ???
It would be helpful if you list players as you talk about them
I wonder if the Patriots would make that trade. Vrabel is the kind of guy that might be able to get through to Pickens and I think they are itching to dumb that 4th pick for assets maybe A pick swap for Pickens a 2 nd this year and a 1st next? Maybe a bit rich but beggars can’t be choosers
I think Kyle Mccord is someone to look out for. If a good coach like Daboll gets a chance to work with him, he could be a decent starting qb
Yes trade Tomlin might make the Rooney's spend some money on good players
Please educate me, give me the name of an NFL coach who never won a playoff game in 9 years and kept his job. This is a serious inquire because I cannot think of one especially in the SB era. If you cannot name one then why is Tomlin getting all this support (to remain in Pitt) ? If you can name one (two, three or four) then thanks
Tomlin needs a new scene and Pitt does too.
Make a list of nfl coaches who coached at least 9 years. Then take that list and remove all that have losing records. If there are any left after that take that list of one with winning records who also made the playoffs more times than not. I’m not sure but if you follow these steps tomlin is either the last one left or one of like 5 at most.
Marvin Lewis
@@rogerbrinson8137 yep good call Marvin went another 7 years still no playoff wins. Cincy should have fired him earlier
Marty Schottenheimer ...? He did the same thing in San Diego, I believe..
@@antoniorios3910 Marty only went 5 years without a playoff win in KC and he only Coached SD 5 years
Rick is such an ass, clowning the other guy and trying to big boy him. One of my favorite draft analysts, Connor over at pff has Membou as his number 1 tackle btw.
Mac jones is better than darnold
Who's this. Mac Jones Sr.
Not even close 🤣
@@cooldude7821 watch the tape and no I go to his college
@@bradleybarber293 yes it is
@@JohnWillow-p6l no it is not. Mac has never played even half of what darnold just did this year 🤣 watch more football dude
Membou erased Nick Scourton in that A&M game.
Cam Ward = Derek Anderson
Shedeur Sanders = Teddy Bridgewater.
Couldn't be more wrong 🤣
The real Dumb BUCKET is if Tomlin is so outstandingly good coach as you claim, why in 18 years in Pittsburgh haven’t drafted and developed ONE Qb??? Did someone forget to tell him Ben R. was not playing forever???? You should put that dumb bucket on top of your heads.
Tomlin is a coach, not a GM.
Neither has Jon Gruden but he has a reputation as a qb guru.
Terrible podcast why is CBS paying these guys
Shough is the only draftable QB, he will be a late rd gem
😂😂😂
Does anyone like Rick Spielman - snide narcissist? Liger tired of the incessant put downs and wish he’d be replaced. He was a lousy GM and an expert in his own mind but the Vikings saw through him.
The dumbest argument for retaining Mike Tomlin is still the one most used by people outside of Pittsburgh. He would get hired immediately. Great! Good for Mike. Don't most coaches fall under that reality?
Mike takes a 4 to 6 win team talent-wise to a 8-10 win team. Pittsburgh needs talent so maybe they want to find a loser to put them in position to acquire it?