Little Nightmares & The Violence of Children
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VIOLENCE IS ALWAYS A CYCLE
Children have to put up with a lot, especially in the universe of Little Nightmares. How much can one kid take before they're changed permanently? In part 2 of our exploration of Little Nightmares, we take a closer look at the first game in the series, and the little girl in a yellow raincoat.
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Those shoes aren’t from the kids…they’re from the guests…not only are the shoes too big for the kids, you can see one of the chefs start to chop up a guest while they sleep
Not to mention the actual meat in the kitchen is way bigger than any child we see in any of the games.
They clearly are still using the kids as meat it’s just most of it is the adults
wait huh....interesting....so they are brought there to get fat for the next feast....strange
If Six grew up to become the masked lady, this stuff makes a lot more sense. She's using the maw to massacre the people that terrorized her as a child...
@@Lumberjack_king well, yeah, no one’s denying that, I just wanted to correct that one detail
I like the implication that Six's hunger is as a result of The Thin Man - she never expressed hunger in LN2, and a piece of her was taken away when the Thin Man got ahold of her. This glitchy, shadowy Six was left behind, and thus she has this hole in her that can't be filled. But by eating, she can try and fill it.
That's why whenever Six eats, aside from her very last time, when she consumes the Lady, we see this Shadow Six overseeing the scene.
Yeah it’s not a physical hunger it’s why she eats the nome she consumes the life force
@@Lumberjack_king Still sad. I like the buddies
This actually really reminds me of a book I read in middle school, the Cuckoo Song. It's about this girl who has a near death experience and then suddenly finds herself with an ever increasing appetite, to the point where she starts eating stuff that isn't even food. As it turns out, that near death experience ended up leaving something behind and left her not really herself anymore. Oddly enough, I was really obsessed with the first Little Nightmares not long after reading that book but I don't think I ever made that connection before
@@percywinters305 I've never heard of this book before! I have an interest in looking into it now. The book The Little Girl Who Was Too Fond Of Matches always reminded me of Little Nightmares, as well as Momo by Michael Ende.
wheres the shadow six?
I kind of disagree with Six's eating of the Nome as an intentional and cruel act. Throughout the game I think it becomes quite clear that Six's hunger is unnatural. It's quick, sudden, and nearly debilitating in how painful it becomes, and through the course of the game we only ever see Six eating "fresher" food. First the bread, then the meat in the cage, then the rat, the Nome, and finally the Lady. It's not until she consumes whatever power the Lady had does she seem satisfied.
Six could've just eaten the sausage, true, but the gnawing hunger that haunts her throughout the game doesn't *want* the sausage, it wants something fresher, more alive, something that squirms in Six's mouth when she bites into it. This isn't the hunger of a normal child, and Six is not a normal child.
I know it's not really related, but in the little nightmares song "Hungry For Another one", near the end, the lyrics follow like this:
Need something fresher than bread or dead meat,
*I want it to squirm in my teeth*
At the second sentence, her voice is more distorted, monstrous. Like her hunger is something controlling her, causing her to become this being who desperately wants living, fresh prey
@@Leilaro1324hungry for another one FUCKS
Nah, I disagree. Six is absolutely cruel. Notice how those "hugs" aren't consented to? The Nomes kick and struggle when she does it. It's a clue to her true nature before the reveal.
@@WobblesandBean I'm not saying she isn't a cruel kid, she absolutely is. what I'm saying is that I don't think her eating the Nome is a character choice that can be chalked up to "she's cruel" when there are a lot of signs that her hunger is unnatural and she doesn't go out of her way to do intentionally cruel acts. Cannibalizing someone is a big jump from breaking mannequin fingers.
So? Its still cruel and selfish. Its funny seing six lovers fighting for their life and doing mental gymnastics to excuse her actions💀
I remember, over a year after the game's release, the chant of the guests' was finally realized. What was initially thought to just be a mumbling, muttering, indecipherable gibberish, turned out to be a horrific chant. Like a spell.
'Go and chop me up
Eat, eat enjoy'
@@invadernav3422 holy HELL. i always thought they said ”shut the door” which apparently was chop me up
...No matter how you interpret the meaning of that, suddenly the Maw got much more disturbing.
@@greenhydra10The devs have said that no one returns from the Maw, and the Guests know. That the Maw only surfaces once a year, always at the same time, but _never_ in the same place.
@@sunnyM42 It's eerie! I know there's a few videos on the chant now.
@@alexcole9325 Exatly, always the same time, never the same place. It's a floating restaurant where those who choose to indulge know they won't be coming back.
One cool effect of how Six’s character was written can be seen in a lot of let’s plays of the game. Throughout most of the game, RUclipsrs usually use “I” or “me” when talking about her and what she’s doing, which is expected. She’s the character you play as, she doesn’t speak or do much to express herself, and you can’t even see her face. With all this in mind, it’s easy to subconsciously project yourself onto her and view her as an extension of yourself. But in the moment she eats the gnome, they almost always switch to “you” or “she.” By this point, you’ve probably grown to like the gnomes and see them as your friends. You wouldn’t even think of hurting one, so seeing Six kill one in cold blood and having no agency to stop it completely shatters the idea that the character is a stand-in for you
This happens in the game Omori too, during a reveal that I won't spoil. It happens in a lot of Let's Plays, to be honest. We connect to a player character up until the point they do something we could not fathom doing.
Also happens in Undertale's gen•cide route.
I wanted to do a study on that-find as many Let’s Plays as possible and record how exactly the wordage changes -do people go from I to you and we to she? Or is it less of a pattern? Thought it would be interesting to look into since I remember in psychology class that people sometimes “double-down” or “diverge” their beliefs when something dramatic is presented about their worldview
That's very interesting. It feels very "late game Captain Martin Walker"....
To play devil's advocate in regards to Six eating a Nome, I would like to point out two things. 1.) The Nome is offering a sausage, something both us as the player *and* Six know to be made out of children. 2.) The Nomes are only revealed to be transformed children in the DLC, meaning that Six doesn't actually know the truth about them. From Six's perspective, she was being offered a choice between human remains and an inhuman (albeit friendly) creature. Given that her hunger is very heavily implied to be a result of her transformation into a monster at the hands of the Thin Man/Signal Tower, it might be reasonable to assume that she can't control herself when she's hungry, and just has to grab the nearest thing. So she couldn't have waited for a better option to come up, and the Nome (at least to her mind) was the lesser of two evils. She did a similar thing with the rat; having to eat it despite a whole pantry full of fresh non-meat food being just a few rooms ahead.
Yeah, personally I think you can interpret the player not having any control of Six eating the nome the way the video does, or you can interpret it as Six herself literally not being able to control her hunger . It also feels necessary in continuing the sliding escalation from meat to rat to nome to human (ik the nomes are human but Six doesnt), showing how the hunger slowly corrupts her. I think it's a very necessary moment in LN and I was supeised at how it was kinda just glossed over.
@@somrone9236 Oh yeah same. Like I also personally believe that while the hunger was already supernatural, it was being made worse by the Maw itself. Everything on there (with the exception of maybe the Nomes and the “staff”, who we don’t actually see eat) is unnaturally gluttonous. Since it’s also kinda hinted that the guests go to the Maw to eat themselves to death (and then feed the Lady), I think this might just be something that effects everyone onboard the Maw who doesn’t serve the Lady. Even if they are a stowaway.
I definitely think that Six as a character is growing gradually colder and more monstrous, but I don’t believe she was actually that bad to begin with, or even during the second game with Mono. I think what we’re currently watching is her *ongoing* corruption arc, and whether that concluded when she consumed the Lady or is yet to be fulfilled I’m not sure. The third game doesn’t seem to feature her, so it may be that her time on the Maw was meant to show the last of her humanity slipping away as hunger overtakes her.
But the fact that she hasn’t knowingly eaten any children yet makes me think she might become a monster for monsters instead. Although, the Nowhere does have a way of twisting good intentions…
18:56 the funny thing is I was so invested to find food as soon as possible for six that I didn't even notice the cage. The blackening of the screen and sound design really sells that kind of feeling
about six’s eating habits, i think her hunger is controlled by the amount of life essence she consumes.
a piece of bread: she’s hungry again soon after. a piece of meat: a bit longer this time. a rat holds off the hunger through the entire kitchen and guest area. the nome, sucked out of it’s soul and body, had little life essence left. the lady: now she’ll never be hungry again.
also i was waiting for you to point out later that the kids weren’t what the guests were eating: they were most likely eating the previous guests. after all, for none of those that enter, have ever returned to tell the tale. the shoes are too big for kids, and while the wrapped up kids do end up near the kitchen, they never get to it, but stay in this vast, giant storage room. it’s almost like… they died under the janitor’s watch, and he’s preserving the little dignity they had by embalming them and sending them away, and since there is a hierarchy in the maw, he doesn’t need to know what the twin chefs might do to them.
the janitor’s job was to capture the kids, he doesn’t possess any lethal weapons (save for the guillotine, discarded in the attic). hold them in cages, chase them down, embalm them, sure, but he also sees that they’re all sleeping and even feeds them bread, something we don’t see later in the game, like in the guest area where it would make sense. bread needs to be made, and i like to think roger had some very little amount of humanity left in him to care for those kids, like they weren’t going to die anyway. he even has toys, and makes them in the lower depths of the maw.
In regards to Six eating the gnome, the offical LN Twitter has stated “when you know what the meat is made of, you can understand the choice.” I’m mostly paraphrasing, but the point is that Six personally went through the delivery process. She knows children are snatched, killed, and cooked into meat. But she doesn’t know the gnomes were once children. The thought of eating a dead child could’ve disturbed her. Which, ironically, led to her choosing the gnome as a more humane option.
By trying to avoid cannibalism she ends up committing even worse cannibalism :(
I never thought of this.
That.... just changed my whole perspective on the games.... not even kidding
Yeah, the nomes aren't very far off from rats in the maw, and choosing to eat a rat-like creature over a dead person is an easier decision. Especially in the moment when the pain of hunger is too much to bear, quick decisions are made without much second thought. (not like we would know her thoughts in that moment and after, but I can't imagine she felt so great. Sheesh)
@@aleaf1494 its like it was fated for her to be a cannibal, she couldn't avoid it
Another possible explanation for Six dropping Mono that I don't think I've heard many people say: She does recognize Mono, she's just absolutely *livid* at him for "saving" her. It seems like most players assume that Mono is, in fact, saving her- but what if she didn't want to be? Face it- this world is terrifying for a child so small. And for a short moment there, she *wasn't*. She had real strength and power, she could defend herself. She became one of the adults. Most people seem to assume she was completely out of her mind then, but even if she was, that doesn't mean she doesn't remember what it's like to finally be on the other end of it all. And she had her music box, something which has always been shown as a source of comfort for her. Mono tore it to pieces in front of her eyes, hurt her over and over again. She didn't even try to hurt him until he started to hurt her.
When she stands up after being turned small again, she does so extremely slowly and deliberately. Staring down Mono in a way I can only interpret as murderously honestly. She only snaps out of it when the walls start to crumble- only runs with Mono because it's the only way *to* run.
Maybe she wanted to kill him right then and there.
Yet there is one thing to look at
Why didn't she just drop him right away?
It's like a hard decision for her. Sometimes there are things that are missed
@@Exeternal_Beyonder_Of_Doomsday
she might just like to see him suffer like how she did
also take into account how the tower works outside of time, mono frees his future self from the past. so for all we know six has completely forgotten who he is, or she just doesn’t care at that point from years of sitting for years in the tower.
also, consider how mono and six both get one item, a music box and a chair. they both seem to corrupt them in similar ways like the adults.
@anidiot4702 Could be but we really don't know what they think all the time it's hard to say
With the hunger scene with the Nome, my theory is that Six didn't take the sausage because she knows for a fact it's human. She's seen the whole process of making the food in the Maw, Hell, one of the things you need to do in the kitchen section is make sausages from mysterious meat. She doesn't have the same knowledge as a player or someone who knows what goes on in the DLC. She could just think yes, the nomes are sentient but maybe in an animalistic way, like the rat she ate. If given the choice between what she knows to be human flesh, or what she thinks is an animal... she made the choice to eat the animal. With the Lady, I think that could be Six saying enough is enough and fighting back as mentioned in the video or it could be viewe as she doesn't see her as human... Also there was literally nothing else to eat near her.
Yes, I think that as her hunger gets worse she makes more and more questionable eating choices as it corrupts her. Even if she recognised the Lady as human, but the end of the game she may have been too lost in her hunger and too corrupted by the Maw to care.
Let's not be egregiously speciesist to justify a characters actions which can easily be justified by less dangerous-rethoric means. Humans are animals and sentience doesn't have levels to it, as far as we're aware. There is no such thing as 'animalistic sentience'. That would be the little fairytale we tell ourselves so the exploitation and execution of non-human individuals doesn't sting as hard as a well-practiced concept.
And, without the context of the other plausible explanations, eating (and therefore murdering) someone instead of eating piece of an already dead and uncaring corpse, is INSANELY immoral and illogical. Not like there is a supply and demand chain (which could balance it out somewhat) to consider here.
This type of reasoning would actually make Six a very cruel character.
@@radiocorrectiveshe does not know the gnomes used to be kids and thinks they're just animals.
(Granted there's the question of how different we are from animals, but that's a different question entirely)
She doesn't want to eat what she KNOWS used to be human.
But she doesn't know the gnomes used to be humans
Also, her hunger is controlling her "she's a cruel character" she's a child trying to survive, who knows the sausage is human meat but doesn't know the gnomes used to be kids, who's unnatural hunger drives her to find something still alive.
@@Suns-e4y (Upcoming: me saying "Duh" without the flippancy haha)
I am arguing from a place of her 'not knowing' that they were human children. It doesn't matter what species they are, it is immoral all the same, that's part of my point (not towards Six but towards the OG commenter). You should look up the meaning of speciecist/speciecism before you reply to a comment mentioning it.
(Also how do you know that 'not wanting to eat what she knows to be human' would be her reasoning? Not that talking about that would further the conversation I tried to start but I'm curious what the thought process behind that assured conclusion looks like.)
Furthermore, I said "without the context of all the other plausible explanations" which obviously includes the 'unnatural hunger' one (which I happen to subscribe to). As in, the second part of your reply is irrelevant to what I've communicated. I'm not replying to the creator of the video, I'm replying to this specific commenter. Therefore, my reply has to be interpreted within the context of what they have said/argued. If you do pay attention to that then your reading comprehension most likely won't fail you. I somewhat mean to say that it's not great to have my point be severely misunderstood even though I have expressed it in a clear way. We should always try to pay close attention to what others are saying (as we would want for ourselves), because to not be understood is an isolating thing and clearing up misunderstandings is so much harder than being mindful in the first place. I still appreciate you continuing the discussion tho.
When your life is entirely surrounded by violence and cruelty you grow to mirror it.
I would like to point out that the Chair from the Beginning of the Game with the Man that ended his life isn't tipped over but when you end your life like that the Chair normaly tipped over. What implies for me that he didn't hang himself rather was hang by someone else.
I wouldn’t read into it that much, it might just be a mistake
I’ve heard a theory the Man is the Lady’s son who left the Maw to live in the City, and as revenge, the Lady killed him. I’ve heard in this same theory that the Grandma is also the Lady’s daughter. Tericho was who I saw propose this theory.
The RUclipsr itsjustjord actually pointed this out and made a theory video about it.
@@polybius8571 This is little nightmares, reading into things is encouraged heavily.
@@bagseysSometimes people read too much into stuff that is straight forward. I feel like some people just theorize and over complicate things for the sake of it. Like they are looking in the wrong places.
I think however you look at Six and Mono's relationship, it was destined for tragedy.
But with every interaction we see of Low and Alone, you can tell the two care about each other. They're always concerned for each other, helping each other up. They are truly friends, which makes me very scared how their story will end in a world where good children don't get their happy endings.
I think this indeed. The world of little nightmares is one where Heirarchy is king and otherworldly forces keep you down below. working together, however noble can only go so far.
If i had to put my take on what this games ending is, it will be at bittersweet one, maybe one of them does get out...just not both of them. one will either have to stay in the nowhere or die in the last hurdle of getting out.
Now...they could pull a good ending i think, but It has to be REALLY good in a LN format for it to work, all endings in LN are either bad ending for the character or its sinster
Im also curious as to what exactly the foil contrast antagonist is in this game. in LN1 sixes foil contrast is the lady, both driven by deep, darken desires that they ultimately give in upon (hunger for six and beauty for the lady).
In LN2, Mono's Foil contrasting is the thin man, driven by lonliness in their actions (mono for six and thin man for mono)
what will LN3 foil contrast for our two protagonists be? the games seem to hype up the fog mirror so i wonder if that will contrast our protagonists?
Alone.. Mono..
Something in their names seems to condemn their fates
Hey there, great video!
I just wanted to add about the shoe pit that the writer did say that the studio wasn't inspired by anything Holocaust related and that he found the mere thought unsavoury. However, it is clear that the message here is very similar even if not purposely inspired. Also I wanted to note, the shoes are a bit too big for the kids. They are however, Resident sized.
About Six being the Lady's daughter, the devs did answer that. They said that they are more akin to two strangers stuck on a train rather than two relatives.
I don't know really anything about Little Nightmares lore but a thought occurred: What if Six's hunger is caused by The Maw? Where countless people are endlessly feeding their gluttony, what if it's a compulsion like the people watching the T.Vs in the sequel?
In the dlc for the game, we follow the runaway kid, another child trapped on the maw at the same time as six, and he doesn't get hungry at all during any of his chapters.
@@alexjewett7455Well six is not a normal child and she was at one point a "grown" monster, also it could be that guests of the maw are afecte- af...I can't spell it sorry, by the maw six is not from the maw but runaway kid could be.
Again sorry I am not good at englishing
@@valentinavitkova8811affected?
@@valentinavitkova8811 I know six is different, but I don't think the maw is causing her hunger. In the secret ending of little nightmares two, we see it started before she even got to the maw.
*prequel :)
I’d like to point out that the shadow version of six is present each time she feeds. From little nightmares two where it first appears in the timeline it only appears when she is observing the maw, or when she is feeding. When the bread is given to her it’s in the corner sitting on boxes, when she is trapped I think it’s to the left, when she eats the Nome it’s standing on a counter above her. The only time it’s not present when feeding is when she eats the lady.
Further providing for the theory that the reason she was hungry was because she was on the maw, and the woman's magic gave her the insatiable hunger that compelled her to eat living beings to satisfy that hunger.
i always thought six’s refusal of the sausage was pretty obviously pointing towards cannibalism-six is morally dubious at best, but the fact that we see meat from the children ground into sausage during the kitchen level stuck out to me. she’s eaten rats before, but maybe six knew the sausage was made of child meat and took the next course of action? the scene disturbed me, but i don’t think i ever faulted her for refusing to resort to cannibalism, since that seems to be what defines the guests…
i feel like its important to mention that Six didnt know that the nomes are people. all she knows is that theyre monsters. so is the lady. shes scared, any kid would be after what she went through
Yeah. I can see that. Perspective is relative. My personal headcanon is that all the experiences Six has gone through has worn down her sanity and in that scene she had something like a psychotic break, or a psychotic episode. I'm no expert with mental health, but I have done research.
That could make sense, but the nomes are the only creatures she shows any actual affection towards.
Idk it could be a sign of increasing paranoia with all the stuff she had been through? Like starting to believe everyone has some kind of untrustworthy intention? Or maybe she just had some messed up thing suppressed and in that scene (because of the influence of the Nowhere and everything in it) that just came out. Idk I'm not trying to defend Six, I'm just trying to analyze her. Maybe it could actually be paranoia, it can really mess up your mind to make you push everyone away, attack or accuse everyone of having it out for you.
@dusktheowlgryphon yeah, I think the placement of this scene as being after Six escapes the denizens is also really important, as it connects to the bigger narrative across LN games about being changed for the worse or loosing a part of your humanity as you grow up. Personally, I think it's clearly meant to signify that Six is becoming a denizen or something similar, as her hunger grows and she becomes more inhuman. I don't know how well I phrased this but I hope the point comes across okay!
@@dusktheowlgryphon that's kinda what i meant to say, sorry if i didnt communicate it well. as somebody whos been mistreated by most adults in my life, this thought process of "everyone is bad, nobody can be trusted, not even myself" starts to form and i rly see my past self in Six.
i feel like it's more like Six becomes a bad person later on, less-so that she was always horrible and evil. The gnome part is probably her venting her anger out in an unhealthy, abusive, and murderous way, like she was pushed too far to the edge, continuing the cycle of violence, or, the cycle of abuse.
I actually love the theory that Mono, the final Thin Man, couldn’t stand the cycle anymore and ended it by ending himself. It’s tragic, yet brilliant, while also showing that this Mono was slightly different from his predecessors.
Counterargument: There's no evidence Six *knows* the nomes are people, we don't even know how long she's been on the maw, but she's definitely gathered that the meat - the nome is holding a sausage for her - is. And her devouring the Lady, that's kinda justified. It's horrific and gross, but The Lady is the one in charge of this all.
Exactly!
How WOULD she even knwo that?? The lady turns them into nomes and it's not like she ever leaves her room
I remember that when the first game came out some people theorized that the lady and six were the same person, and the idea that Six not only failed to stop Mono from becomig the Thin man and made the cycle but also failed to stop this one and will eventually succumb to becoming the lady (which is why she breaks the mirrors because she can't stand seeing herself after she realizes what she has become) is a very brutal and cruel twist.
I think that's the case too specially because of the way this place works in the first game, the adults are getting fatter and fatter when going there eating more and more and for what? Whats the end goal of the lady? Consuming them too, thats why she keeps them fed so she can consume them one by one for her never ending hunger to be satiated.
One thing that has always intrigued me is why do Six and the gnomes know what's happening to Six? The gnomes know to bring her food. Know it's what she needs. Six also just knows what to do when "feeding". I always saw Six as fighting against her nature with the gnomes trying to appease her for the sake of their own lives and Six just ends up succumbing. Six is the lady in the same way Mono was the Thin Man. They both could not escape their fate. Maybe all the adults in this game are the same. Just children that couldn't avoid growing up into the monstrosities that made them.
I feel I need to point out something about those shoes ,theyre not kid shoes theyre far too big to be . A single shoe is almost if not as big as six herself .
Not gonna lie, the “Six dropped Mono because she knows he’s the Thin Man” theory, is one of my least favorite theories. Mostly because she’s a child and faces change over time, while it’s entirely POSSIBLE she could make that connection, I doubt it’s the first connection she’d make. I personally think it’s much more likely that she dropped him for the reason Gaming Beaver proposed in his LN2 theory……she’s pissed Mono destroyed her music box, and her sense of safety (again), but the music box is the largest factor
But of course, with a game as vague as Little Nightmares, any and all interpretations are valid
also since mono did drag six through hell, she knows that if she takes her with him, he’ll only drag her through hell again, and then she’ll have to help, and empathize, and possibly get hurt again. i think while six does mourn her music box, she’s also scared of going through all that again because of mono, so it’s safer to go through it alone. six only knows mono through hardship, and while mono does rescue her multiple times, she might’ve felt it was more out of obligation since it was kind of mono’s fault, in her eyes. i think she blames mono for all of it, and that’s why he can’t come with her.
Six is like this guy put me through hell screw him
@@prettymonster7877 to be fair she does consider it for a bit😂
If it is because of mono's face, it'd be more of a "this kid kinda looks like the thin man, maybe they are related" thing than a "this kid kinda looks like the thin man, and that must mean he is the thin man." thing
"Faces change offer time" since I was like 8, people said I looked like my mom, I'm not even a girl. Faces can change over time or look similar over a long time.
Wearing a mask/ hiding your face, your identity I think is less about shame and more about being able to do things without shame or guilt. You can hide behind the mask and do things you wouldn't normally do when you feel like you're being watched or judged. You can disconnect yourself from what you're doing.
Which also fits in with the amount of eyes everywhere, watching
While I absolutely agree that Six is a little nightmare of a child, I feel like you missed out on a big point, that Six wasn't hungry until after what the thin man does to her.
33:03
I'll answer your question with some questions, what is that sausage made of? What monster did six _just_ escape from? Six doesn't know that the gnomes used to be other children, _we_ didn't even know that until the Little Nightmares DLC was released so _how_ could she have known that?
While I don't believe that _all_ of the meat is children, (most of it seems to be closer to the size of the guests, and we see one of the chefs chopping meat in what looks to be a guest's room) the sausages are _the_ most likely meat on the maw to be children because of their size. The guests can be turned into slabs of meat, but the children need to be ground up to make sizable portions (wow, that's dark. Didn't like writing that.).
Six _knows_ that she can't trust the meat on the maw anymore because she saw the entire process of the meat delivery and had to make sausages herself to create rope earlier in the game. She doesn't want to turn into one of the guests she just escaped from. It's a horrible action to eat the gnome because it's sentient and _we_ know that it used to be another kid, but I wouldn't say the action can _only_ be described as malicious.
Even if you don't believe that there's another theory stating that the measure of life essence is what determines how long Six stays full for, and maybe Six picked up on that and chose the better option for survival when she doesn't know where her next meal is coming from. It's not my favorite theory, but it's another explanation. (I got this theory from @sunnyM42 in this comment section)
As for The Lady, Six ate her when there was nothing else around and she was starving _and_ this is the big monster in charge. I'm honestly less horrified at her eating The Lady than I am the gnome, it's more understandable.
Is Six a good child? No, definitely not. Is she a cold-hearted villain with no remorse for her actions who can't be forgiven? Also no, in my opinion. Six is a complicated child in a complicated world, and I _do_ think she is a child. A child that seeks comfort first and survival second.
Is she a _normal_ child? No, but then again, was _Mono_ a normal child?
On the topic of the connection between Six and The Lady, I do believe that Six becomes The Lady.
As I stated earlier Six seeks comfort as shown through the music box so why wouldn't she stay in The Lady's comfortable room now that the monsters are no longer a threat to her? _Especially_ when the Maw is in the middle of the ocean, where is she going to go? Is she going to order the Maw to go to shore to what? just keep running?
I also don't think it's a coincidence that Little Nightmares 2 starts with Mono dreaming of the door that leads to his future self and Little Nightmares starts with Six having a dream about the Lady.
The creators have also stated quote "I don’t know what that says about the general feelings we all have about our mothers, but I can say that I was once trapped on a train for half an hour and none of the other passengers were my mother. ... but the reality is that these two characters have been thrown together by forces beyond their control." and where does the last Thin Man chase sequence happen? _On a train._
At this point, Six does become a monster. There are still explanations for Six's behavior as the Lady if you still want to believe that the child is still part of her, buried deep. Whether she's simply keeping the Maw running as it was for her own safety or hunger, whether she's simply doing this to have guests to eat so she doesn't starve, whether she keeps the children safe and comfortable until their demise (unless they try to escape, but as horrible as it is, this is probably one of the better lives for children in this world).
None of these theories change the truth, however. Six is a monster now, just like Mono became the monster that he feared. The monster that took his friend away. The monster that twisted her and ripped away a part of her (Shadow Six).
Because children don't _live_ in the Nowhere. They die or they _survive_ and grow up and become monsters because adults don't exist in the Nowhere, only monsters do.
0:44 I have a head cannon that the reason she catches mono at all is to absorb some of his power so she can go through the tv also the hunger in the first game is likely a consequence of this or being captured by thin man
There is a main theme of “killing the child” with all characters in Little Nightmares
Being literally or metaphorical
Most people in the maw are guests that grow with their desires fulfilled
Never growing up mentally but never having a goal other than their pleasures
In the Pale city, the TV’s are what make people find a “goal”. Something to buy, to get, to watch or to do. Like the signal tower that makes them do as it pleases
To be a kid is to be free and have your own dreams
But…. Adult life normally kills the idea of freedom and that your dreams won’t require sacrifices
You will have to sacrifice. Others or yourself
And… I think that Little Nightmares is kinda a critique of how twisted the world becomes as we grow older and understand more
And left behind all the things made us…. Us
All the piles of shoes, all the piles of meat, all the masks
All covering scared children that grew up in a nasty world that told them that… they were always the lowest in relevance. The lowest to take care. The lowest of privileges. While the adults are the lowest in empathy. The lowest in helping eachother for the sake of it or survival. The lowest of joy
One of my big theory’s for this game is that six IS the lady, not related to her. I think that she similar to mono in that she’s trapped in a cycle. She kills the lady and takes her powers and then grows up and returns to the maw. And it’s shown that kids can grow up to be as big as the other monsters, because mono grows to be the thing man. She does what mono does and tries to kill her younger self to end the cycle which is why she comes back to the maw. This theory also explains why six had a dream of the masked lady, because mono could similarly go into the tvs to the door to see his older self. But, the cycle continues, like it always does.
Il give some of my own insight into this little nightmares that ive noticed and observed during my fixation of this series.
1. Like some people have mentioned. the hunger that has been in this games seems to have started at the end of little nightmares 2 and whatever the Thin man/Mono did to six. leaving that dark soul-like side of her that suggests you to go to the maw, followed by your stomach grumbling and this isnt regular hunger, its a clearly growing hunger, you think if six was THIS hungry she couldve ate the food in the kitchen or the DINING ROOM, but that isnt "fulfilling for six" it seem her "HUNGER" asks for more...first bread, then meat...then a live rat, the nome then the lady.
Now does this excuse eating a nome for the sake of survival? not really morally or ethically. however it gives more insight into why she yeets the sausage and meats the nome.
2. Six and Mono never really had a healthy relationship throughout the series. Mono mightve saved her, however like you said. he kept getting into more danger. whats add to this are the TV scenes, she HAS to drag you out each time, growing increasing uncomfortable around you. on the final one where thin man is released she still concerned for it from that. but she mightve been really pissed that you even released him in the first place.
3. Six during Very little nightmare and Little nightmares 2 seems willing to help mono/yellow girl (pushing a boulder onto the pretender even though she didnt have to and well helping mono and sticking with him through the entire game up till then end). however going through LN 1/end of LN 2 she isnt as willing anymore, not even giving the little kids a chance which is stark contrast to the nome who wouldve.
at the end of the VLN. she mightve realised that even if she helps people. it doesnt do anything as they die anyway. which makes her hesitate to help Mono.
at the end of LN2. while she was sticking with mono, she mightve realised that helping these people only ends with her suffering. as she gets into far more trouble helping mono than going by herself. hence the dropping (with other factors) and her not even giving the kids that are caged in LN1 a chance
4. I like to imagine that children have something to them in this universe that makes them highly sought after, maybe children are rare, you never really see anything protaining to a crib so I imagine they're brought into the nowhere as adults in this world and that the adults of this world can't reproduce due to otherworldly reasonings
They're rarity makes them highly tastier compared to the adults (for the maw) cause they still have "Life" in them over adults. Probably why the hunter was keeping six in the basement. Maybe to taxadermy as a "reward" or to sell off to the maw.
Regarding the 4th point. Spoilers for the Sounds of Nightmares ahead.
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We know for a fact children are brought in the Nowhere, the podcast reveals it. I don't think that children are rare, as we see quite a lot of bodies both in the Maw and the Nest. I also think that some violence doesn't seem to have a lot of rhyme or reason, if the Maw is at least somewhat understandable than the Hunter or the Pretender killing children just to make them into dolls or dummies isn't a need at all. If anything, it seems like the world just wants to make them suffer. Maybe it somehow feeds onto their suffering, not sure
Also, another interesting thing is that the podcast quite strongly implies that children have to agree to go to the Nowhere themselves, because Noone only disappears for good after taking the Ferryman's hand, but he didn't take her by force. So very likely already traumatized children are driven to choose the Nowhere as a sort of escape, but it only leads them to worse hell
17:27 the next time you play this game and you go into the nursery, put your brightness all the way up and you’ll see that all the children apart from one have black plastic bags over their heads.😢
I am so glad that the Holocaust museum was brought up. When I first went there a few years ago, I got to that room and started crying, there were so many shoes and that was only a piece of the real amount of shoes that the Nazis kept. Some of the shoes were so small, clearly child sized. While I agree that this game is not a Holocaust reference, I think for nearly anyone who as seen that exhibit, reaching that room with the shoes in LN1 hits a bit different. I was particularly satisfied cutting off the Janitor's arms because of that, and when I replay the game now it is still one of the few things I get a satisfaction from. I am no better than Six for wanting to hear him scream.
There's no character I want to hug and punt like a football simultaneously as much as Six.
And for those of you saying Mono dragged her into danger and stuff, I ask you this: What was stopping her from turning around?
Having nowhere else to go?
As a kid probable danger Alone can be scarier than Definite danger Together
Also, the things Chasing them
Yeah, agree with the other person, what was she supposed to do if she left him? Wonder the huge city ALONE??
@@Suns-e4ywhy not go back to the cabin
@@kikor4954 she's not thinking rationally and also she probably couldn't make it
@Suns-e4y I'm not blaming her I'm saying she made the active decision to eat the nome alive there's no proof that she's not thinking
I think dismissing Six eating the nome as a random act of cruelty is a huge mistake and misses a lot of the point and themes of the Maw and LN as a whole. Six's hunger is clearly not normal, its influenced by either the Maw or what happened with the Thin Man in LN2. Its also very important that this scene happens right after Six escapes from the denizens- cruelty is a cycle, and just like the adults in the Maw, six has been corrupted. You can say that the player not being in control of Six at this point means that you and Six are not actually aligned in what you want to do, or you can interpret it as Six literally not bring able to control herself. This doesnt justify her eating the nome, shes still a cruel petson like the denizens now, but I think writing it off as a random act, or not taking into account what has been going on and thinking that this is ehat a sound of mind Six would do regardless of any other influence takes away a huge chunk of Six's journey through the Maw in a thematic and story perspective. The rest of this video went very in detail on a lot of things, so I was taken aback at how little thought it appeared you gave this. Still loved it though, looking forward to the next one!
Edit: other comments have pointed this out too, but Six may have been under the impression that the sausage was human meat and that the nomes were not human, and made a split second descision under the influence of the hunger.
Thank you, I feel like he just wanted to prove his point/idea of Six being a horrible person despite her not being, at least not fully, she is still a child in a horrible situation, where her supernatural hunger craves more and more as time goes in
I always assumed Six had an escalating hunger, and that's why she went for the gnome, dead meat wasn't enough. I also think the gnomes KNEW she had The Hunger. They're all initially skittish, more so than we see in the DLC.
I think this means the runaway boy didn't have The Hunger, but it's a known danger. I think it has something to do with the shadow she left behind when the man snatched her. She had something sepperated from her and that void now Hungers.
I always saw Six's acts of cruelty not from a place of evil but from a place of survival. The only adults we see are monsters and in order to survive that long she must feel the need to become monstrous too. We've no idea what The Tall Man did to her in the time she was with him but we know it distorted her into a shape just like the adults. Which has pretty horrifying connotations if you ask me
Six wasn't hungry until she was taken by the Thin Man. Her hunger results from that static shadow left behind, it represents the part of her that she's lost. She's hungry because she's trying to fill a hole that can never be filled again. She knew what she was doing, but she can't stop herself. Like you said - Cycles are hard to break. She was caught in one cycle - The Tower, and because of that, she got caught in the cycle of Gluttony. The shadow pointed her to the Maw for a reason - to try and fill the hole within her.
22:04 I always thought that those were the suitcases and shoes of the guests (mostly because of size) whos flesh is eaten by other guests after their own feast
It could be that Six is the lady in the same way that Mono was the thin man. The lady being unable to the face the mirror because she is unable to face the monster she has become. What the world has turned her into. It would lead into the whole cycle of violence theme. And besides, even if she isn't, we already have reason to believe all the monsters were once children themselves. That those who manage to survive go one to perpetuate the harm they once had to endure.
I think that her hunger got stronger as it went on. At first, it could be satiated by a piece of bread. Then, it had to be meat. Next, a rat, a living creature. The gnome, needing now something alive rather than just plain old meat. Finally, the lady. She eventually needed an entire life essence to satiate her all-consuming hunger. Six was just really hungry, don't be so harsh on my girl :[
I wanna play a bit of devil's advocate and point out that we have no guarantee that six eating the gnome is her choice in a world where people can be cursed by impulses like mono and the TVs. It might have been, but as you said little nightmares thrives in ambiguity.
I also wanna say that the idea of Six and Mono becoming what trapped them, the thin man and the lady, could be something interesting to look into, be it just a metaphor of the cycle of violence or a more literal line of succesion or a shift in the "food chain"
Very nice video
Yes exactly, I think you can take the players agency being removed in that scene in a different way than what the video interprets it as, that Six literally has no control over her actions.
I think the interpretation of Six betraying the player in a sense is interesting, but I don't think it necessary makes complete sense: on a metalevel, yes the player and Six are working together, but from a story perspective you are Six, full stop. She is the character who you are playing the perspective of, and her version of events is what is being shown. Her actions may be controlled by the player in our perspective, but from hers she's working alone, and these are her choices, which means that when control gets taken away from the player, it can be understood as control being taken from Six too.
That being said this is one interpretation, and I do find the interpretation of Six being the one working against/without the player here a very interesting one, I just don't think it's the only interpretation possible and shouldn't be treated like fact.
@@somrone9236 really we can't treat any interpretation as fact until we get an actual tangible answer from a game
However personally after seeing how six doesn't just let go, she RECOILS when she let's Mono fall, I can't just assume it was out of malice. That looked like fear or disgust
So maybe I'm naive but I'd like to think Six isn't inherently evil, even if the game itself turns her into what made her go through hell in the first place
I wonder how my (basically fanfiction) of a hypothetical Little Nightmares 3 (that started long before the offical one was announced and is so different story-wise) would measure up to the Little Nightmares themes/ideas (the things described in the first video). Great video! Can’t wait to watch more!
Alright, I see your point with Six eating the nome. But I have a counter proposal. Six knows that the sausage is made of human flesh and she doesn't know that the nomes were once human. Does this entirely excuse Six, no, she very clearly killed a friendly living thing so she could eat it, that's objectively terrible, but in her mind, maybe it was better then the literal act of cannibalism. Also, six's hunger is very clearly not normal, it's something that effects her way too much way to quickly for that. I think that this is the fate of all children in the nowhere ultimately, you either die "pure" or you end up becoming another monster.
Yes! Especially in the Maw, where the denizens seem to also be effected by some supernatural greed or hunger, just like the people staring at the television in LN2. I think especially that the scence with the nome happens directly after escaping the denizens shows a link of sorts between the two parties: that Six is growing up and becoming a monster just like every other adult in the Nowhere, but especially like the ones in the Maw. I don't think Six can escape her fate of becoming the Lady any more than Mono can escape from becoming the Thin Man.
I had always interpreted the maw as a separate entity with some form of will and the lady was like a host for it. I thought that six’s actions in the game were caused by the maw choosing a new host, someone to replace the lady. It felt like six was not in control of herself when she ate the gnome or the lady. I guess it just felt like such a dramatic personality shift from the beginning. Plus the fact that she was never hungry at all in the first game makes me feel like some other sort of force was involved.
i love this video and it’s predecessor SO much, i can’t explain it. it single-handedly brought back my hyperfixation, thank you!
as someone who loves Six and her character, i honestly love how six can be cruel to others. it’s been established so many times that Six is not a normal child. my favorite question is: why? is it because when the Thin Man took her, he took a part of her (her humanity? her compassion? her ability to properly satiate her hunger?) with him? (thus leaving behind the shadow/glitch six, which we see when she eats the Lady.) IS her cruelty due to trauma? was she always like this?
there’s also always the argument that Six ate the Nome because she practically knew for a fact the meat was made from people, where she just thought that the Nomes were some sort of sentient or animalistic creature, not a sapient person. while the younger-me who was first to LN through the first game would love to agree, i also love entertaining the idea that it was more out of cruelty. more of an idea that she knew the meat was from other people, but would’ve eaten the Nome even if she didn’t.
i want to know what led her to her cruelty, what led her to her want for control. if the man we find is really the Thin Man, what’s stopping six from also taking some sort of action to stop the cycle? does she not want to stop the cycle? does she not care? is it too late?
it’s more than likely just the psychology nerd in me speaking, but it’s what makes me love her character. doesn’t have to mean she’s morally good (at least by the end of LN1). :>
again, wonderful series so far! i was really excited for the release of this one, and can’t wait to see the next. :D
Were six’s actions okay? No. In literally no way were they okay. They were malicious and disgusting. But six is a product of her environment. She’s spent her entire life exposed to the worst of the worst of the nowhere. All she’s ever known is vileness and disgustingness. So no matter how much she should know better than to inflict the same suffering into others as she’s faced her entire existence, well.. she can’t. All she’s ever known is the disgusting, horrible, vile acts. The only exception was Mono, and the way she saw it she could let him mean anything to her anyway, because genuine trust isn’t safe in the nowhere
I'd like to defend Six without making an angel out of her, because she isn't one. She's done so many horrible things to the people around her and like eating the nome, not all of them can be justified with "survival" when there's clear better options right in front of her.
Six isn't a great person, but I can't bring myself to call her a monster either. At the end of the day she's only nine years old and stuck in a place as awful as the Nowhere, tired of being stepped on.
And no, I *don't* believe that Six failed to recognize Mono, or even that she realize he was the Thin Man. I think Six was truly very emotional and infuriated with him for dragging her through so many horrible scenarios and for destroying her one consistent comfort, the music box. She was badly hurt and from her perspective Mono already betrayed her.
That post credits scene at the end of Little Nightmares 2 reveals so much. Shadow Six looks down at a poster of the Maw, Six *plans* to go to that awful place. Her intentions in the first game arent just surviving anymore, it's to get on that ship and get off of it making sure nobody can hurt her again.
Eating the nome was extremely unnecessary but her hunger grew and grew the longer she was on the Maw, slowly becoming more intense and closer to a living creature, from the bread to the meat to the rat to a person.
When the Thin Man ripped Six's glitched remains from her body, I think it permanently changed something about her. I think Shadow Six acts as her soul and her humanity, that's why it helps Mono and always watches from afar while Six does monstrous things with their hunger rather than participating. I think Six's humanity being ripped from them by this world is both physically and metaphorically what happened.
I know literally nothing about Little Nightmares but I'm having fun
32:59 i love the immediate heal turn there
Six be like, "I just keep moving forward, until I destroy all my enemies. Why, because I was born into this world."
Hear me out six eating a gnome could possibly show her actually being nice? Ok so as she goes through the maw she sees other children being wrapped up and turned into meat. I mean she made sausages herself. With any common knowledge she would see that her friends are the food. (Along with guests) considering this, yes we know gnomes are alive and cute but how could she possibly know it’s human. If you had to eat a living fish or a dead child you’d probably pick the fish. I know I would
Throwing my hat in the ring as an enduring six defender… or sympathizer. I think her eating the gnome was the pay off of a lot of things. I’m pretty sure the hunger she experiences is a result of her losing a part of her soul to the thin man, she’s not actually hungry for food, I think her soul desperately craves to be whole again. That might be why her feedings escalate from bread, to meat, to still living things, to people. I also think it’s interesting that right before she gnomes out, she faces off with multiple ‘adults’ preparing and eating… children 😨. I think there’s something there about the cycle of abuse, and how some children grow up to be abusive in the same way. Anyways, I guess I’m not defending six, but I don’t think she’s a monster, just a deeply tragic figure. I agree that this game is always about the cycle of violence.
Maybe six didn’t eat the sausage, because she knows it’s made out of children. She eats the nome because she desperately needs an alternative and she doesn’t know what a nome is and has never been able to trust a living thing so far. Yes the nomes have been kind so far but for all she knows, they could work for the lady
I have a statement that is very apparent. Six is very messed up. For many reasons. Maybe the Nowhere just brought the darkness out of her, like bad situations tend to do with real people. It's possible that all the experiences caused a sort of psychotic break in the nome scene. (also she did not know that the nomes were actual people, perspective is relative, we are the villains to the earth but the heroes of our own lives, but I do not want to start a flamewar, keep it civil) Not justifying it at all, that was totally an unhinged move. Complex character argument here. Inside all of us is a primal malintent. Maybe the Nowhere is designed to bring it out. Given the time loops, it's possible that Six becomes the Lady in a similar way to the loop from LN2. If not literally, then figuratively.
I like to bring LN2 secret ending into this and the glitchy six that appears around.
that glitchy figures that suggests her to the maw also appear as a black six that watches over each of her meals. additonally at the end of that secret ending scene her stomach growls too.
There also the theory she HAS to eat bigger each time. as what she eats is progressively bigger from bread, meat, rat, nome then finally the ladys neck.
Yeah. My view is that after being abducted and taken to the signal tower in LN2, Six was disconnected from her soul (or at least part of her) and that left a void that had to be filled. Maybe what you said can be part of this, like the emptiness becomes more prominent and requires more to fill. That would also explain the ending.
I just saw the 1° part yesterday, what a treat! Thank you for your amazing work :)
I want to point out the message you said about six no longer running from the danger/being a pushover. We can't exactly say what happened to mono prior to LN2, but that sense of heroics and running towards the danger is essentially the same result from dealing with the monsters in the nowhere. Whereas six develops a viewpoint of fighting back and becoming more so a "monster" herself in a way, and mono adopts the viewpoint of facing the danger in order to put some sort of end to it all. They both develop these viewpoints after realizing that running away or hiding just doesn't work. Neither of them are wrong in their beliefs, and both believe what they're doing is good.
I still remember watching playthroughs, and getting to Six attacking the gnome, and everyone being like DUDE, WTF, he had a sausage for us, why?! And then you get the DLC of the Run Away Kid, and you LEARN that HE was turned into that particular gnome, and I think he's the one who gives you bread that first time, and it's like Oh. Because that's when you learned that the gnomes were children before they were gnomes. Six is traumatized, surely: I don't think there's a way she COULDN'T be, having lived in that world. But, her response, and her eventual willingness to fall INTO that same response, well, it's disheartening. Part of why Mono makes me sad, too. But, you're right: violence is always a cycle. or is always cyclic.
This is the earliest I have ever been to a video before
Same here lol
I think it’s a little simpler, honestly. Six dropped Mono because she hated him, he destroyed the only thing that brought her comfort and she did not forgive him for that.
Did she though? There are many reasons why she could have done it. Ever since she lost her shadow she has grown hallow and many theorise that that's where the hunger curse started. Either she realised Mono was thin man when she looked at his face, she acted out of revenge because of the music box or she couldn't control her hunger.
The hanging man isn't Mono/The Thin Man - modders have examined the model and they don't have the same clothing.
Also, it's pretty clear that Mono/The Thin Man are trapped in a cycle of chasing each other and becoming each other, and he didn't break out of that cycle just to kill himself in the Maw.
Everyone is talking about how six knew the sausage was made of human meat, and didn't know that the gnomes were human, but I think that's a stupid justification. While it could be true, the gnome was still ALIVE and had clearly shown a human level of intelligence. If you made me choose between eating a dead human and an alive, not necessarily human, but same level of intelligence, I would choose the dead one EVERY time. What I think is more likely, is that she knew the sausage wouldn't satiate her hunger. She had eaten bread, random meat, and even a live rat, and yet she was still hungry. She chose to eat the gnome not because she saw them as less than human and would rather eat them than human meat, but because she didn't want to be hungry anymore. It is also possible that the maw itself was the reason she was hungry, and would of corse compell her to cannibalise the ALIVE gnome, just like the guests wanted to cannibalise her, beacuse she was alive.
Literally just finished the first video, perfect timing!
I think the Hanging man is the Thin man but from the previous cycle after he gets defeated by Mono he decides to end it all realising the futility of his actions.
It’s interesting to watch people play this game for the first time and see their shock and horror when Six eats the nome. Before that moment, people referred to Six as “I” or “we” showing a connection, a bond between the player and the character. We’re controlling Six, we’re seeing the world from her point of view, yet we forget that we may not have the same perspective as she does. After eating the nome, I’d see people refer to Six as “you” because Six’s action is so heinous that it severed the connection between her and the player.
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I just watched the first part lmao
I SUSCRIBED TO YOU EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THE OTHER VIDEO I WAS WAITING FOR THIS THIS SO GOOD
One thing I'd like to add on is what I think is the true nature of Six's Glitching Remains/Dark Six/Shadow Six (who I will be referring to as just "Shadow" for convenience's sake). I personally believe that Shadow is a manifestation or representation of Six's moral compass that was split off from her when the Thin Man snatched her back in the Pale City and Shadow became her own seperate being. This could explain why Six starts acting more callously, begins prioritizing her own self-preservation even more than before (like mentioned in the video, Six already showed signs of prefering to be alone and looking out for herself even back during her time at The Nest), and even dare I say even malicious at times (eating the gnome). Just as Shadow guided Mono to the Signal Tower to help save Six, Shadow guides Six to the Maw in an attempt to try and satiate her newfound hunger pains. Hunger pains that only started appearing after Shadow became her own entity, almost like they were a result of Six losing that part of herself and no matter what and how much Six eats, she can never truly be full. Her attempts to try and fill that hollow void within by eating whatever she can grow increasingly more disturbing throughout her time in The Maw (R.I.P Runaway Kid and The Lady lol) and Shadow also always appearing whenever Six is devouring something. With Mono and the Thin Man, it was about growing up to become the monsters you once feared or hated, and being unable to let go of the past (if it really is a time loop which most likely seems to be the case). With Shadow splitting off from Six and the belief that Shadow is Six's lost moral compass, it could be seen as the loss of a child's innocence due to the bleak and hopeless nature of the world, thus "losing yourself" in the process, and growing up to mirror the same cruelty being perpetuated becoming a monster yourself as well.
Side note while I'm at it, I'd also like to briefly mention my thoughts on the relation between Six and The Lady since that was also brought up at one point in the video. While I don't think they have familial connections since I think someone at Tarsier specifically said that they do not have a mother-daughter relationship, the theory that Six becomes The Lady similar to Mono becoming the Thin Man is a intriguing. Specifically how Six doesn't become 𝘵𝘩𝘦 Lady we see ingame, but rather that Six is fated to become the 𝘴𝘪𝘹𝘵𝘩 Lady of the Maw, with the one she defeated being "Five", if you will (hence the reason for Six's name and that strange painting in The Lady's quarters). While I'm not sure on the validity on this theory since just because Mono becomes the Thin Man, that doesn't mean Six becomes the Lady, as well as nothing overtly implying that Six is trapped in a time loop of her own, I admittedly still really like this theory as a concept and fun headcanon lol.
But again with all that being said, this is all just my own speculations and beliefs. If nothing else, I at least think it's a much more interesting interpretation of who/what Shadow is instead of just "Six but dark and EVIL 😱" lol. Little Nightmares is my second favorite game series of all time so I'm really glad there are still extremely high quality videos like this being made on it :D
This game is very reminiscent of the original Luigi’s mansion with the portrait ghosts, each with their own lore. I’d also like to add that the developer interviews add so much context. For example the monsters were supposed to kill six upon capture but was toned down for a lesser rating. Definitely should definitely check them out
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I'm sure this will be a banger video
I'd just like to say that it is true that six has more survival based instincts rather than a heroic type like mono, as she had displayed those tendencies throughout ln2, but remember, the secret ending in little nightmares 2 shows that there is 2 different versions of six, the six that was captured by the thin man and left as a shadow, and the six who had left. The six that left had a physical form, but the shadow version of her did not, as we can deduce from the other shadows in ln2. I think that the reason that six had been acting so overtly aggressive from the point where she was taken by the thin man to the ending of the first little nightmares game is that she had lost her soul, and therefore lost her morals. This is why she dropped mono, why she ate the gnome + why she's so hungry, since she needs to fill the gap in herself.
I am gonna admit that I am a six defender so I might be biased
The signal tower is shown to be a source of corruption throughout Little Nightmares 2. All the viewers have had their faces melted, the tower itself is corrupted into a dream like maze, even the forest being full of television sets maybe implies people throwing away their sets to escape corruption.
Nobody would ever do the kind of reprehensible things Six is shown to do throughout the first game. Six was no saint the first time around, but on the Maw, her actions are completely inhuman. And that is exactly my point.
That Six is no longer human.
She has become one of them. The janitor, the hunter, the chefs, the teacher, the guests, the doctor. Six has become no different from any of these gluttonous creatures. We see this in the final boss of the 2nd game.
The tower turned Six into a monster, and while it may have seemed that we cured her, it was only skin deep. She was cured physically, but not mentally. Mentally, she is still corrupted.
With this in mind, Shadow Six is most likely the last remaining piece of Six’s humanity, in a distant corner of her subconscious mind. Watching wordlessly, as her conscious mind gives into corruption and becomes a monster no different than the ones one been avoiding.
I think people are getting a bit lost in the finer details when it comes to Six eating the nome. Yes, she likely didn’t know that they were a human child, but she did know that they were intelligent, and that they were kind and never bore any ill intent towards her or anyone else. And even with knowing all of this, she would still rather eat them alive. Human or not, the nomes show a level of humanity, empathy and sapience that the line between the two becomes blurred.
This is the point where Six becomes no better than the monsters she's been fighting all this time. When she uses her superior strength, size, speed and intelligence to kill and devour a smaller, weaker and helpless person who wanted nothing but the best for her.
Violence is always a cycle.
You're a monster! A villain. BAITED AGAIN?? I trusted you! The theme of betrayal rides strong in this one.
Truly. I feel like its the killing of the gnome that gets me. It's so senseless, it reminds me of the porcelain children in 2. She doesn't do it for any reason than because she can, I'd forgotten you can hug them at the start and now I want to cry. It's like they're the purest expression of simple childlike innocence and she couldn't let that stay alive.
She absolutely recognises Mono when she drops him. Whether or not it's because she was hunted by the Thin Man or just because she was angry, she did it because she could. Mono also exemplified a sort of childlike bravado and she couldn't let it live.
When she's warped into her monstrous form she is listening to the music box and gently vibing, something she knows she can't have. Six is the self fulfilling nature of the whole place killing the innocence of childhood and she's perpetrating it.
@@Sanisgillon i think to six, mono symbolizes the end of her childhood. before meeting him, she was safe with her music box: then she was dragged through hell, she was kidnapped and mutated and in danger all the time. in the end, he destroyed the music box, and thus her childhood for good, and by dropping him in exchange, she sealed the end of that childhood.
I was wondering if you'd pick up on this during the last video but wanted to wait and see if you were gonna talk about it in this one and you didn't. One thing some traumatised victims of adults can experience is feeling a sort of betrayal about the fact that they will eventually become an adult like the people that hurt them. So I wonder, in that moment of Mono dangling, did six have a similar revelation and that's why she let go? Ultimately it doesn't change anything about what you said but is just another tie to the psychology of childhood trauma and the cycles of violence some kids experience.
The characters being so so scared and having gone through so much is very special and fascinating and entrancing to me
YESSS BEEN EXCITED FOR THIS!!!
One popular theory is that the girl in the yellow raincoat is the lady's daughter, the photo or painting in the Lady's bedroom shows a different hair color and style different from Six. I personally don't think this is the case but hey its a theory...
I just realized that the girl in the painting might be Noon from the podcast...
33:04 easy…the hunger is getting worse and worse…and whatever Shadow Six is…would have prevented either the hunger entirely or Six from making that decision……if Shadow Six was still A PART of her
The above is mostly a joke, but I’m seriously tired of people completely demonizing Six over one decision (usually dropping Mono)
its so awesome how i started listening to your magnus video, fell into a few more, and just as i check your channel you uploaded this. super excited to be here and enjoy the second part of this series!!
Who needs school when I have this to watch
32:21 #Monowasright Your whole reaction to that made me actually laugh out loud
When I saw the shoes, I thought of an episode of Criminal minds. To sum it up, 2 brothers killed almost 100 or so people. They lived on a farm, they disposed of the people by feeding their corpses to pigs. The only sign of how many people they killed was a dumpster filled to the brim of shoes. One brother too mentally damaged to care. The other too callous to care.
I been subscribed for a couple months now and around three weeks back started working on a little nightmares fan concept video, the videos you make I really enjoy listening to especially when drawing so when I saw you were making some little nightmares videos made me very happy! Keep up the great work!
1. The fans found a file of The Janitor with a scratched out nametag. The best guess as to his actual name is Roger. Roger the Janitor. The fact that he is called "The Janitor" and not "The Keeper" or "The Warden" also suggests that he's not the one actively keeping anyone prisoner, he's just cleaning up after them. He's the mean guy with a mop yelling to get back to class. The shadow in a porthole earlier might be the actual Warden, but we never face whatever it was.
2. Chopping off Roger's arms never felt like an angry move to me. It still felt like survival. There's nowhere left to flee, so the only option is to fight. Following that (frustratingly difficult for me) encounter, I only had relief. No more threat of death descending from the pipes. On to the next thing, threat, place to escape, and puzzle to solve. The nome death was what was shocking the first time I saw it. I became concerned of what monster Six was becoming and I was leading her to become. It probably doesn't bode well that I almost immediately fell back into Six's mind. "There's the Lady, my next target. So close... but I should stay just out of reach for now. Still not safe."
3. The developers have basically said "If you see a mother-daughter relationship between the Lady and Six, I'm concerned what your home life is like." The family theory is implied to be wrong, which is probably the closest thing to disconfimation we'll ever get.
I really like Little Nightmares. It's one of the few horror games I have the nerves to play. Please keep up with this.
Okay a lot of people are saying that Six may have dropped Mono because he got rid of the music box or because he took away her strength since she was big and could defend herself, but I always interpreted it as Six deciding *she* can’t rely on *him* and it wasn’t worth it.
Even if we take other stuff like her recognizing him as the thin man or him leading her to dangerous places out of the picture, she doesn’t know why Mono was going into the TVs. She has to pull him out each time and likely interprets this as saving him, and then when she finally can’t get him out in time, he released the thin man, who immediately started trying to hunt her down.
Maybe he was leading her into danger, but everywhere in the Nowhere seems to be similarly bad. I don’t think it matters- by going into the TVs, Mono was being unpredictable and putting them in danger, and in that moment she decides she won’t fight for someone she can’t rely on. If they go back to traveling together, she can’t be sure that he won’t do something like that again, so she doesn’t risk staying there to pull him up.
That said, I do think people saying that she decides not to eat the sausage because she knows it’s made of children and doesn’t realize the nomes are too are kind of coping. It could be possible, but she’s not exactly going out of her way to be altruistic for most of the game. I do think her hunger was affecting her a lot and that it was kind of a pull that she couldn’t resist, like once she got hungry there was nothing else she could think of or do until she ate. It seemed to me like as she got closer to the nome, she was making a decision, and she decided not to resist what the hunger told her to do. The nomes are friendly, but she’s learned that she can’t rely on anyone else- if the only person she can trust is herself, then she’s going to help herself over anyone else.
In short, her name might be Six, but she was looking out for number one.
Do you think that they’re getting the children from the guests, and then feeding them back to them in a cycle?
Maybe it’s less that they’re monsters, and more just childrens interpretations of really bad people. The maw seems so big because everything seems so big when you’re a child. So its like, allegorical in that way? I’ve just always wondered where the supply of kiddies is coming from since the entire world seems at a standstill. Maybe the Maw is just a breeding eating machine, a self sufficient cycle, soylent sausage
Also do you think that the tall lady could be future sense, in the same way that the tall man was mono. The end of LN2 has Mono absorb the tall man, and the end of LN1 has Six eat the tall lady. Maybe their both cyclical in that sense? It feels on theme. Maybe thats why the picture on the wall looks like six, because its adult six not six’s mother
so excited for this pt 2!!!!
We eating good tonight/today/this morning fellas!!
I couldn't watch the first video because the intro was kinda triggering for me, but I pushed through to watch it this time so I could understand this one, and I'm glad I did, these two videos are really great analysis, especially of Mono and Six.
I just watched the first one earlier, and now the second one is already here! Yay! These are brilliant!
Awesome second video for this series and really interesting theorizing and interpreting you've made here. Looking forward to part three
23:30 The kids in cages aren't being merked by the janitor and fed to the guests. They're being given to The Lady. Why do you think there are so many Nomes around?
19:54 actually if you played the DLC for LN, you'll learn that the kids who are wrapped aren't really corpses... Some of them are pretty much alive
I like when you went from narrator to reactor
[explaining the scene that is happening-] “Dear lord WHAT is she DOING??”
Honestly a mood 😂
YAY I'm so glad you uploaded today :D I found the last video yesterday and I was super excited for the next video. I know its gonna be good :)
I really love that LN depicts a fact that as adults we love to brush off: children are cruel, vicious, and act on impulse for their own comfort. They have to be taught morality, empathy, cooperation. They, WE, are not naturally nice. It's a controversial fact, maybe, but that doesn't make it less factual.
Acording to the description of the Pale City in the official website, this isn't the first time Mono or Six go to that place.
I also love that the Lady just accept her destiny and discover her neck for Six to bite her.