@@stthomasmore4811 'Our Lady', as you call her, rescues us from nothing - only Christ is our Saviour and Redeemer. It was through other synods, or councils, that all the errors about the mother of the Lord entered the Church. You disagree with councils to come, I disagree with councils past. If you give yourself the right to do so so do I.
@@a.t.c.3862 It’s a biased and uninformed accusation to suggest that I am Mariolatry. Yes I proudly Love our Blessed Mother who unfailingly supports and intercedes for us, but worship, silly to suggest it. JESUS We all meet one day and good people that you are, he will surely say how much he loves you but maybe ask, why were you so horrible in the way you spoke about my Mum ? Should we in light of warnings see the signs so that together, not separately, we unite in prayerful adoration of The holy Trinity. Furthermore, the dilution of the Catholic traditions that is intended, is what it intends a watering down of humble adoration. Or am I misguided ? If you inherit a splendid house, why knock it down to live in a shed ? Prayers, penance and sacrifice and love of all who are in circumstances needing our help and humbly providing it is integral in our pursuit of salvation.
@@chatterbox4560 That's the problem; the great house we've inherited is faulty in parts, mistakenly built by our predecessors thinking they were doing good when they were doing bad instead. We need to repair the house.
DO NOT DRESS UP SIN AND TREAT IT AS A VIRTUE. HOLY PRIESTS ARE BEING CANCELLED & YET THE WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING ARE BEING PROTECTED AND ELEVATED WITHIN THE CHURCH.
The church is in crisis alright...you got that part right...try spending more of your time in prayer, namely Our Ladys prayer...The Rosary...offer Mass everyday instead of taking holidays and sight seeing...STOP giving the faithful communion in the hand, and explain why...stand up with a strong united voice, against Abortion...theres your synod...now do your jobs...you have become more secular than true priests of holiness
The International Theological Commision in its document on the sensus fidei sets out clearly what the participation requires of the baptised to be part of the The Peoole of God. Synodality is a constituent part of the Church and neccesary if we are to fulfil our mission, coresposibly. One mission, the great commission but different roles, and different charisms, following the same Holy Spirit. God bless the Church.
And in vain do they worship me, teaching doctrines and commandments of men. Matt 15:9. With this Pope, the Vatican will follow the ways of the free mason instead of God but pretending to be of God. Matt. 16: 23 Who turning, said to Peter: Go behind me, Satan, thou art a scandal unto me: because thou savourest not the things that are of God, but the things that are of men. --If Jesus were to listen to Peter, God's salvation plan would not have occurred.
Well, before Bergoglio we've had Mary-worshipping, personality cult instigator: Wojtyla, an ally of the Right; - and deeply affected, flamboyant-dresser, quitter and air-piano player extraordinaire: Ratzinger.
"Vatican Ii is from the Holy Spirit. The problems with Vatican Ii was due to "flawed" Human beings, not from the Council itself. Do not "Grieve" the Holy Spirit. Test the "spirits". By their "Fruits" you shall know them. God help us all.
@@figurefour633 please refer to: "What went wrong with Vatican II" EWTN. It's so important that we recognize "The Authority and Teaching role of the Church."The Holy Spirit guides the Church. God bless 🙏
So, let’s sum this up. Homosexual unions are okay. Women will be ordained. No distinctions between Protestants and Catholics: “All Are Welcome!” Including those who are agnostic, or worship Bhuddah, and oh by the way, Traditional Catholic teaching is over.
There is no possible middle road between the "far left" nor the "far right". It would be like trying to mix oil with water. Those of the "Far left" is Modernist heretics who have no fear of God nor respect for God. Those of the "Far right" love God and cling to all His holy precepts through the 2000 year teaching of the Church from scripture and tradition. It would be like trying to find a middle ground between God and satan.
Unity between left and right is not the goal. Heaven is the goal. Doing the will of God our Father is the goal. If someone here on earth is in grave error, we should not seek to be in unity with them. We should remain in union with God's holy will and laws, and try to guide our brother/sister to repentance and renewed union with God.
There is NO middle of the road. Christ founded the Catholic Church when he was here on earth....the Last Supper remember. Francis is attempting to have us join a One World Order Church. He is a liberal and not only that is teaching heresy.
@@figurefour633 Blasphemy, as you should know, applies only to God. Do you worship Mary, is she your personal Lady and Saviouress? You disagree with certain things about the Church, I disagree about others. There is no difference. I might say that it is you who are guilty of blasphemy for doubting that the Holy Spirit guides the Church.
There is so much in the bible that is subject to interpretation. The founding fathers did much to resolve the questions, i.e., baptism, in the catechism.
This is great Joe and all. Wondering if there is a transcript so that some of the 'casual' remarks aren't lost? Things towards the end that caught my attention. From Tom when he talked about working at the micro level, remembering that the 2nd century church was tiny! Seems to come back to how we live and have our being in ordinary life. Loved his focus on the importance of facilitating existing skills within the church. That is definitely a power shift for clergy but also for people to let go of wanting someone else to 'do it' for them. Mark raised the issue of clergy serving the people. Great but once again, hard to shift after centuries of people believing and doing otherwise. But it seems that all speakers are in this mode. Particularly loved the last flashes of insight: take the risk and don't lose your nerve. We're on a whitewater ride not seen since the end of the 14th century. Stay cool, stay loose and from John, the encouragement to let the spirit speak and don't be afraid to bring up any issue that rises from that engagement. Openness and being willing to listen matters. As I watched I recalled being a young Baptist at the time of and in the years following Vatican II. I'd had no contact with Catholics, apart from my great Uncle Jim, because I wasn't allowed to talk to them. But suddenly, we were all meeting in homes around the community talking about how the new changes could engage us all. I discovered that the local Catholic priest was a friendly, enthusiastic man. Such a revelation! But quite quickly all that energy seemed to ebb away. We stepped back into our own locked boxes. Maybe fear took over. So, I'm reminded of the story of Pandora. When she opened the box that was forbidden to her, all the ills of the world rushed out. Enough to put anyone off and an encouragement to bang the lid down tight. But she persisted until hope, waiting right at the bottom, had the opportunity to rise up again.
Sande, glad you liked it. Re the transcription, if you mean have we obtained a transcript other than what RUclips provides; it's not something we've considered just at the moment. RUclips's transcription is available. Under the video, next to "Save", there are three dots that open up another menu option. On that menu is "Open Transcript". The time codes can be turned on and off. If you're asking have we archived the text, I'm not aware if anyone has, but I gather those with RUclips accounts can copy and paste. It's a straight translation without punctuation and without identifying the speaker but the timestamps will give some guide there.
As early as 1980 Cardinal Williams steeped in the ecclesiology of Vatican II emphasised the importance of a renewed understanding of baptism for the future of the ANZ Church: I am as committed now, as Archbishop, to the concept of lay ministry as before. Not because there are now fewer priests engaged in pastoral work! I refuse to accept the diminished number of priests as reason for encouraging lay ministry. I do recognise, however, that perhaps God has blessed us by not calling as many as before to the priestly ministry and so providing an occasion for rediscovering lay ministry and coming to understand the theology of Church and mission which underlies and gives purpose and scope to ministry. Seeing lay ministry as the solution to the priest shortage tempts us to setting it in the context of expediency. We will end up trying to fill gaps and maintain obsolete models of pastoral care. Seeing lay ministry as an expression of mission arising from baptism and confirmation leads us to setting it in its proper theological context. We will begin transforming our structures and methods of evangelisation, and establishing new, more relevant and effective models for pastoral care. Thomas Williams, "Lay Ministries," in Lay Ministries (The Pastoral Centre, PN1980).
All Great. No one Speaks for a Holy Truth. On a Holy Day. No Holy Nights Holy Words. Rejecting Holy Light. Only Begotten Sons Words. 3 Holy Days cutts off every religion on the Planet.
I have no interest in the Synod on Synodality. Nothing good has come from Vatican ll so far. I will keep living my Faith as a Traditionalist, in union with St. John Paul the Great and Pope Benedict XVl.
Joseph van Haren We are witnessing the Hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church , as they are suppose to uphold the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Faith ,are now, I believe creating a new church . It appears that we have now entered into the great Apostasy prophesized in Revelations .
I hope one thing that comes out of this synod is that priests stop taking a day off from their vocations. My parish priest takes Mondays off so we dont get mass on Mondays. If he wants the day off at least have morning mass and then go take the day off. Or arrange for another priest to have mass. It's funny. A young mother doesn't get to take Mondays off. She's a mom 24/7. She doesnt take a day off from her vocation but the priest does. Its insane!!!!!!!!!!
@@colleenposadas8415 I would if I could but we only have one parish in my city. Our parish is big enough to have at least two priest but we have a priest shortage. The city I used to live in had several parishes and I had my pick where to go. Those were the days.....☺
Synodality has rooted the CofE, rivening it with factions. I suspect this is going to open a can of worms. In my prediction, over time the space (between the ears) will be filled with discordant voices.
Lord Christ Lord Jesus Lord God of Hosts in the Lord of Hosts I seek your Word of the Light in and with you. In and with the 3 Holy Daughters Altars. At your Thrones.
Accept the Altar offering of the 3 Nails. The Throne of the Crown of Thorns. Traded for the Noel Crown of the Living Gods Lights. Christs Bride the Lambs Wife the New Kingdom Handmaid.
We must keep Baptirlsm, Recondition, the real Presence of Jesus's in Communion, lasting exclusive marriage, no abortion or euthanasia, confurmation in the Spirit, Holy Orders withthextradiayional words healing of the sick male only priesthood as Jesus as the only male Virgini birtl ever. Other social changes such as recognition of female wisdom and experience ate necessary but the basics must endure
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I know Cardinal Dew, he's my archbishop. Met him a few times and will see him again at the centenary of my church this year.
I am reminded listening to this that EVEN THE DEVIL CAN QUOTE SCRIPTURE. say your rosary daily.
More Mariolatry? That's your solution.
@@a.t.c.3862 May Our Lady rescue you from your hatred of her.
@@stthomasmore4811 'Our Lady', as you call her, rescues us from nothing - only Christ is our Saviour and Redeemer. It was through other synods, or councils, that all the errors about the mother of the Lord entered the Church.
You disagree with councils to come, I disagree with councils past. If you give yourself the right to do so so do I.
@@a.t.c.3862 It’s a biased and uninformed accusation to suggest that I am Mariolatry. Yes I proudly Love our Blessed Mother who unfailingly supports and intercedes for us, but worship, silly to suggest it. JESUS We all meet one day and good people that you are, he will surely say how much he loves you but maybe ask, why were you so horrible in the way you spoke about my Mum ? Should we in light of warnings see the signs so that together, not separately, we unite in prayerful adoration of The holy Trinity. Furthermore, the dilution of the Catholic traditions that is intended, is what it intends a watering down of humble adoration. Or am I misguided ?
If you inherit a splendid house, why knock it down to live in a shed ?
Prayers, penance and sacrifice and love of all who are in circumstances needing our help and humbly providing it is integral in our pursuit of salvation.
@@chatterbox4560 That's the problem; the great house we've inherited is faulty in parts, mistakenly built by our predecessors thinking they were doing good when they were doing bad instead.
We need to repair the house.
DO NOT DRESS UP SIN AND TREAT IT AS A VIRTUE. HOLY PRIESTS ARE BEING CANCELLED & YET THE WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING ARE BEING PROTECTED AND ELEVATED WITHIN THE CHURCH.
Just join a protestant church and leave our Catholic Church alone.
C. S Lewis said that a human crisis occurs when religion and politics combine. To avoid a crisis, the U.S. must take note.
The church is in crisis alright...you got that part right...try spending more of your time in prayer, namely Our Ladys prayer...The Rosary...offer Mass everyday instead of taking holidays and sight seeing...STOP giving the faithful communion in the hand, and explain why...stand up with a strong united voice, against Abortion...theres your synod...now do your jobs...you have become more secular than true priests of holiness
I believe in Christ's Church and not in this stupidity.
The International Theological Commision in its document on the sensus fidei sets out clearly what the participation requires of the baptised to be part of the The Peoole of God. Synodality is a constituent part of the Church and neccesary if we are to fulfil our mission, coresposibly. One mission, the great commission but different roles, and different charisms, following the same Holy Spirit. God bless the Church.
And in vain do they worship me, teaching doctrines and commandments of men. Matt 15:9. With this Pope, the Vatican will follow the ways of the free mason instead of God but pretending to be of God.
Matt. 16: 23 Who turning, said to Peter: Go behind me, Satan, thou art a scandal unto me: because thou savourest not the things that are of God, but the things that are of men. --If Jesus were to listen to Peter, God's salvation plan would not have occurred.
Well, before Bergoglio we've had Mary-worshipping, personality cult instigator: Wojtyla, an ally of the Right; - and deeply affected, flamboyant-dresser, quitter and air-piano player extraordinaire: Ratzinger.
The spirit of Vatican II in the age of apostasy.
I totally agree. Francis is headed to hell for what he is pulling.
"Vatican Ii is from the Holy Spirit. The problems with Vatican Ii was due to "flawed" Human beings, not from the Council itself. Do not "Grieve" the Holy Spirit. Test the "spirits". By their "Fruits" you shall know them. God help us all.
@@eleanorhouston223 can you explain to us what is the spirit of Vatican Ii? Are you say that is the Holy Spirit? I think that would be blasphemy
@@figurefour633 please refer to: "What went wrong with Vatican II" EWTN. It's so important that we recognize "The Authority and Teaching role of the Church."The Holy Spirit guides the Church.
God bless 🙏
@@eleanorhouston223 I am assuming you can’t answer my question
So, let’s sum this up. Homosexual unions are okay. Women will be ordained. No distinctions between Protestants and Catholics: “All Are Welcome!” Including those who are agnostic, or worship Bhuddah, and oh by the way, Traditional Catholic teaching is over.
Let’s find a middle road, especiially in the U.S., between the far left and the far right. Unity will survive even if imperfect.
There is no possible middle road between the "far left" nor the "far right". It would be like trying to mix oil with water. Those of the "Far left" is Modernist heretics who have no fear of God nor respect for God. Those of the "Far right" love God and cling to all His holy precepts through the 2000 year teaching of the Church from scripture and tradition. It would be like trying to find a middle ground between God and satan.
Unity between left and right is not the goal. Heaven is the goal. Doing the will of God our Father is the goal. If someone here on earth is in grave error, we should not seek to be in unity with them. We should remain in union with God's holy will and laws, and try to guide our brother/sister to repentance and renewed union with God.
@@oneperson5760 I agree 100%
There is NO middle of the road. Christ founded the Catholic Church when he was here on earth....the Last Supper remember. Francis is attempting to have us join a One World Order Church. He is a liberal and not only that is teaching heresy.
Will there be another abomination of desolation in the temple of God?
There already is: Mary.
@@a.t.c.3862 you are blaspheming the Mother of Jesus! How disrespectful and disgusting 🤮
@@figurefour633 Blasphemy, as you should know, applies only to God. Do you worship Mary, is she your personal Lady and Saviouress?
You disagree with certain things about the Church, I disagree about others. There is no difference.
I might say that it is you who are guilty of blasphemy for doubting that the Holy Spirit guides the Church.
@@a.t.c.3862 You are an ignorant person. Blasphemy applies also to anything Holy. The angels and his Saints.
@@figurefour633 Your sinful confusion is abundantly clear.
I am Eternal as he is, created in his Image. Raised from the dead. His God did that for me.
There is so much in the bible that is subject to interpretation. The founding fathers did much to resolve the questions, i.e., baptism, in the catechism.
How can there be 2 teachings of Eternal life if they are not the Same.
Heart and Soul to find Mind and Holy Spirit.
This is great Joe and all. Wondering if there is a transcript so that some of the 'casual' remarks aren't lost?
Things towards the end that caught my attention. From Tom when he talked about working at the micro level, remembering that the 2nd century church was tiny! Seems to come back to how we live and have our being in ordinary life. Loved his focus on the importance of facilitating existing skills within the church. That is definitely a power shift for clergy but also for people to let go of wanting someone else to 'do it' for them.
Mark raised the issue of clergy serving the people. Great but once again, hard to shift after centuries of people believing and doing otherwise. But it seems that all speakers are in this mode.
Particularly loved the last flashes of insight: take the risk and don't lose your nerve. We're on a whitewater ride not seen since the end of the 14th century. Stay cool, stay loose and from John, the encouragement to let the spirit speak and don't be afraid to bring up any issue that rises from that engagement. Openness and being willing to listen matters.
As I watched I recalled being a young Baptist at the time of and in the years following Vatican II. I'd had no contact with Catholics, apart from my great Uncle Jim, because I wasn't allowed to talk to them. But suddenly, we were all meeting in homes around the community talking about how the new changes could engage us all. I discovered that the local Catholic priest was a friendly, enthusiastic man. Such a revelation!
But quite quickly all that energy seemed to ebb away. We stepped back into our own locked boxes. Maybe fear took over. So, I'm reminded of the story of Pandora. When she opened the box that was forbidden to her, all the ills of the world rushed out. Enough to put anyone off and an encouragement to bang the lid down tight. But she persisted until hope, waiting right at the bottom, had the opportunity to rise up again.
Sande, glad you liked it.
Re the transcription, if you mean have we obtained a transcript other than what RUclips provides; it's not something we've considered just at the moment.
RUclips's transcription is available.
Under the video, next to "Save", there are three dots that open up another menu option. On that menu is "Open Transcript". The time codes can be turned on and off.
If you're asking have we archived the text, I'm not aware if anyone has, but I gather those with RUclips accounts can copy and paste. It's a straight translation without punctuation and without identifying the speaker but the timestamps will give some guide there.
Think of it as Climbing a mountian takes 3 days with Helpers..
Noel Crown. Wisdom Life Lights.
As early as 1980 Cardinal Williams steeped in the ecclesiology of Vatican II emphasised the importance of a renewed understanding of baptism for the future of the ANZ Church:
I am as committed now, as Archbishop, to the concept of lay ministry as before. Not because there are now fewer priests engaged in pastoral work! I refuse to accept the diminished number of priests as reason for encouraging lay ministry. I do recognise, however, that perhaps God has blessed us by not calling as many as before to the priestly ministry and so providing an occasion for rediscovering lay ministry and coming to understand the theology of Church and mission which underlies and gives purpose and scope to ministry. Seeing lay ministry as the solution to the priest shortage tempts us to setting it in the context of expediency. We will end up trying to fill gaps and maintain obsolete models of pastoral care. Seeing lay ministry as an expression of mission arising from baptism and confirmation leads us to setting it in its proper theological context. We will begin transforming our structures and methods of evangelisation, and establishing new, more relevant and effective models for pastoral care.
Thomas Williams, "Lay Ministries," in Lay Ministries (The Pastoral Centre, PN1980).
All Great. No one Speaks for a Holy Truth. On a Holy Day. No Holy Nights Holy Words. Rejecting Holy Light. Only Begotten Sons Words. 3 Holy Days cutts off every religion on the Planet.
It is difficult to live wth autocracy, whether in Australia or the U.S.
I have no interest in the Synod on Synodality. Nothing good has come from Vatican ll so far. I will keep living my Faith as a Traditionalist, in union with St. John Paul the Great and Pope Benedict XVl.
Utter rubbish. JPII and Benedict were both instrumental in VaticanII. The teaching from vaticanII had been momentus
Revelation Ch 22 v 16 . Just my Father and I
HOLY OF HOLIES .HOLY RIGHTEOUSNESS HIS RIGHT HAND. HOLY GRACE HIS LEFT. HIS BLESSING HANDS.
Joseph van Haren
We are witnessing the Hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church , as they are suppose to uphold the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Faith ,are now, I believe creating a new church . It appears that we have now entered into the great Apostasy prophesized in Revelations .
I totally agree with you.
Utter rubbish
I hope one thing that comes out of this synod is that priests stop taking a day off from their vocations. My parish priest takes Mondays off so we dont get mass on Mondays. If he wants the day off at least have morning mass and then go take the day off. Or arrange for another priest to have mass. It's funny. A young mother doesn't get to take Mondays off. She's a mom 24/7. She doesnt take a day off from her vocation but the priest does. Its insane!!!!!!!!!!
Could you not go to another Parish on Monday)
@@colleenposadas8415 I would if I could but we only have one parish in my city. Our parish is big enough to have at least two priest but we have a priest shortage. The city I used to live in had several parishes and I had my pick where to go. Those were the days.....☺
My biggest prayer is to live to see the day this whole false church-of-man is swept away into the sea.
Along with the false teachings about Mary.
Synodality has rooted the CofE, rivening it with factions. I suspect this is going to open a can of worms. In my prediction, over time the space (between the ears) will be filled with discordant voices.
MT Zion no other will reign.
Lord Christ Lord Jesus Lord God of Hosts in the Lord of Hosts I seek your Word of the Light in and with you. In and with the 3 Holy Daughters Altars. At your Thrones.
Accept the Altar offering of the 3 Nails. The Throne of the Crown of Thorns. Traded for the Noel Crown of the Living Gods Lights. Christs Bride the Lambs Wife the New Kingdom Handmaid.
Armor Breastplate Scepter. see makes sense right.
The Creators 2 Sons lamps of the oil at his Altar.
We must keep Baptirlsm, Recondition, the real Presence of Jesus's in Communion, lasting exclusive marriage, no abortion or euthanasia, confurmation in the Spirit, Holy Orders withthextradiayional words healing of the sick male only priesthood as Jesus as the only male Virgini birtl ever. Other social changes such as recognition of female wisdom and experience ate necessary but the basics must endure
In other words carry on as now LOL
Absolutely, carry on and with renewed faith and vigour and with humble prayer meditating on the 5 wounds of Christ demonstrated in the Holy mass.
Synodality is traditional.