I rode one through the alps last year. It is the best bike I have ever been on. I'm 5'9. My buddies had trouble with falling over in slow tight turns on their GS1200's, a problem I never had. It had a box on the back to hold my riding gear. I rode from London all the way through the alps and back. No issues, and very comfortable. Curves were awesome. I rented it from Superbikes outside of London for a very reasonable price. I ride a Norton, Valkyrie and GL1100 at home. This bike went far beyond my expectations.
I saw one of these in red, blue and white about a year ago and it was spectacularly beautiful. I harassed the rider for about a half hour, talking to him about it. He had done several small improvements to it, to make it fit his needs perfectly. The workmanship on these is top notch. Shaft drive, tubeless cast rims and easy valve adjustments. A bike that is easy to live with.
you know how with some bikes you kinda get used to them and start looking elsewhere? Not with these. Ive neer met any owner who doesnt absolutely love them. Me included. ive lightened mine by about 15kg, removed rear passenger subframe, titanium headers, single seat, these are very effective very fast real world bikes and look in my eyes very classy. I dont want or need attention but goodnes me does this machine get em. Mines white silver with gold (option 719) paint. In europe at least they hold their value extremely wellyes, even after 2 yeasr of ownership, im smitten, more even than the day I first lay eyes on her.
I like the boxer twins and was interested in a BMW but then I happened upon a local Moto Guzzi dealer and took a test ride on a V7 Stone. What a great machine! I would love a BMW from the 1970’s-80’s but BMW parts are so expensive and I already did that $vintage$ bike route once. The new ones (like this R 12) are way overpriced, but my new V7 Stone Special Edition was less than $12,000 OTD. It has many features similar to a 1970’s R 80 such as shaft drive, good mid-range power, simple 2-valve air cooled engine, 18” front wheel, and a dry clutch. It sounds even better than a boxer motor and is beautiful to look at. Oh, it also has a 5.5 gallon fuel tank. I’m glad there are great choices for different riders and incomes.
I'm on my 2nd V7 (traded my Stone for the Special Edition) and recently added the Upmap, velocity stack, and performance air filter to it. Can't recommend it enough. If you haven't already, I promise you won't regret it. The gains on paper are nominal, but I can definitely feel the increase in power, eagerness, and throttle smoothness that it brings. The 2025 V7 Sport is looking tasty. Not sure if it'll be replacing the SE or an addition. Used to be a BMW guy and I would love to have the R12 9T in my garage, but times have changed and I'm not shelling out 20K for a single bike when Moto Guzzi offers such a compelling value proposition and still has character, heritage, and panache. Also, they aren't ubiquitous like the BMW. I get asked about the V7 all the time. Much love to Moto Guzzi!
Moto guzzis are so underrated, I had a V7 Rough and my dad had a bmw r nine t and then a thruxton r and my guzzi was comfier than the beemer and had more soul than the triumph. I finally let her go in search of more speed (Aprilia tuono 660) but I'm going to buy another.
Excellent choice sir! Not very high on power, but it doesn't need to be. It is such a nice bike! I ride both the V7III Racer and the Nine-T Racer. Very different in character and handling, both oozing character.
Thanks Zak for a year of reviews and finished on the bike I’m having delivered this Tuesday (early Xmas present 🤔). All bikes are awesome in their own way and this one is just like the rest, not perfect but like all new bikes, full of lovely tech to keep you upright and whatever is unique to the bike. I’m a sports bike rider through and through but I can’t wait to just throw my leg over this bike and just ride. No drama, no faffing, just riding. Happy Xmas to all, have fun and be safe ❤
It's very worth mentioning that the original model (regular NineT) has high-quality parts, but all the alternate NineT's, like NineT Urban, NineT Pure, etc, have worse suspension and a few other bits. So stick to the regular NineT.
21:30 is exactly why I sold my 2021 R NineT UGS, the feel, fit, and finish of the bike was amazing and it was absolutely love at first test ride but my goodness the BMW tax is no joke! Sure you can do the maintenance yourself but they have service interval warnings built into the dash that you can't clear without spending $600 for their fancy code tool. Anything done at the dealer costs at least $400 on a good day in my experience and it just got to a point where dealing with BMW tarnished the whole experience of that bike. My Royal Enfield GT650 has given me all the same warm fuzzies of the old school bike with just enough modern niceties to not be a hassle that I was looking for.
How come you did not buy the 911 Diagnostic tools which can reset the whole bike codes for 300 dollars and do all your own work? Better yet - more than a few BMW rider groups lend them out for free. Using that tool makes the bike great - nearly as cheap to run as the enfield and dead on bulletproof.
@@tedhoppe5918 I considered buying the 911 tool but one, they certainly weren't $300 when I looked around and two, that was only one of the straws that broke the camel's back. Another big thing was lack of aftermarket support for my particular model. Maybe standard models are different but mine was the 40th anniversary edition with the 719 option and all that which looked great but for the life of me I couldn't find a luggage system that fit with the exhaust, a windscreen that wasn't universal, engine guards that didn't need some special (and costly) extension to fit around the unique heads. It was all such a hassle to do anything with the bike other than ride as it came from the showroom and maybe that's the BMW experience, but it wasn't for me in the long run.
The Motoscan app for BMW motorcycles on an Android device will do the service reset - license is about $30. You need an OBDlink devices also - but much less expensive than the GS-911.
I would like to agree with @charleskilo4383 Having had an R-series, the maintenance on these bikes is truly rapacious (price, cost, time, headaches) and anyone suggesting some dark corner of the internet to get an OBD reader isn't offsetting that charge, they are supporting it. For the litany of bizarre issues, amazingly pedantic maintenance schedules and specialized, hard to find tools necessary to keep these things on the road, I call total BS on the 'ruggedness' and 'engineering quality' of these things. I just expect so much better from a premium bike with a premium price tag. Finally, if you don't believe me, pick up one of Neil Peart's motorcycle travel books. There's one where actually says he planned his routes through BMW dealerships to keep with maintenance. For the record, I checked in on the review to see if BMW found some maintenance-extending engineering that Ducati found with their new engines and I guess BWM has not. So, while it looks cool and the ergos are really choice, never for me until they fix their engineering. A bike should spend its time on the road not in the shop.
Thank you Zack and the RevZilla team for creating this beautiful content. It has definitely become a part of my sat mornings with my coffee. Congratulations on your 100th episode. Here's to more
I walked into the dealer looking at a 719 Edition that was over $20k. After talking with the dealer and test riding a used and slightly upgraded 2015, I came back three days later and bought the 2015 for $10K out the door… it was eight model years old with 9000 miles on it and $1500 worth of upgrades. Other than keyless start and cruise control, there’s nothing on the new modeIs I would be willing to pay for compared to mine.
Spot on Zak. As i have watched you ride and video over the years i can see you mature into one of the best if not the best the editor in the USA on bikes. You called it right on the R9T in every way. The same can be said in a review going way back on a BMW Boxer from 1976, a R90/6 for example. You get the same feeling on the highway as on the R9T, true to its heritage. Add wind protection and the game changes and the long legged capability goes up on the scale. The comes the need for a better seat, bars, lights, storage. On and on…….. The bike is truly better today in every way of course but the feel is the same as long ago. BMW has many available accessories to customize the bike to change the look and feel a little, but BMW stops short of any real upgrade for wind protection. The see it that if you want that, then you need to buy a model with well designed wind protection. The 9T is the UBM (Universal Beemer Motorcycle) of motorcycles, for today.
@lelouchabrilvelda1794 what i like is that bmw bikes seem to not be so disposable. They're still around from the 70s 80s 90s etc. I have an 03 1150gs and can get any part I need easily. I love the Japanese bikes too, but they just seem more disposable. The old ones are around but in junk condition. Probably due to who buys them rather than the bikes themselves.
I have the 2015 and it is incredible! Super comfortable even on 250 mile solo days. With Dunlop Q5S front and rear it is a blast on twisty roads. It does get a lot of attention when out and about, so add a few minutes to your plans for questions and random conversations.
@@nickc2871 it is a fair weather weekend toy for getting out on SoCal back roads and I wanted to get maximum enjoyment out of it. I was blown away at how good it is with high-performance tires.
@@SprSonik13 Agreed! I am amazed at how good they are! If you get a chance, do a track day in them - they are incredible on the track! So confidence-inspiring!
Great review. I own a 2017 RNineT Scrambler and was loaned the R12 for a day while mine was being serviced in the summer. I found my bike more comfortable so wouldn't change up to the newer model, particularly with such a big price difference (£10k).
Sat on a R9T at 22 years old, instantly fell in love with it and would've bought one as my first and forever bike if not for the atrocious insurance premium at 400/mo. Settled for a beautiful W800, but I still yearns for the 9T. After a test session with the 12-9T, I can't say I'm happy with it, as it's just a little bit 'less' than the 9T-- Less fuel, less pretty, still for a lot of money. Will probably get a used 9T eventually.
Ok, that’s enough! You’ve GOT to get a 360 camera! I want to see the bike you’re reviewing, you and ok, a little of the road ahead but less of a dull freeway and the butt-end of container trucks! BTW, as an owner of the 400x (amongst others!) I LOVED the India trip. I will get a 9T at some point, probably a s/h early pure as still great bikes and with some many newer iterations they relatively cheap 💪🏼✊🏻👍🏻
Boxers aren't for everyone. I love the two I have, '83 R80RT, 2012 R1200R Classic. the 2012 has chased 1250 KTMs through the mountains and wasn't left "wanting".
I always love DR, and I've longed for an OG RnineT from a decade ago and love this new one. Great, timely review. Side thought: how must it look to someone who doesn't know what's happening to see Zack on Lover's Lane, sitting on the pillion seat, hands off the handle bar and waving in explanatory excellence as he steers a bike through turns with his knees....
Was waiting to hear your thoughts on this update forever. I have the 2014 rninet, i love it. The seat was terrible for touring (aftermarket helped a bit) but otherwise i hope to keep it in my stable for the next 50 year, glad to say i have no FOMO after hearing your review, those new gauges sure are pretty tho!
Recently bought a 2019 Urban GS with 1650 miles on the clock; brand new for just 10k EUR. That - in NL - is a bargain. Love the boxer engines! Has this anything to do with the content of the video? No, but I very much felt the need to share this... ;-)
Road this bike over the summer at a BMW Motorrad Demo Day event. I found it very well mannered, comfortable (6'4", 34" inseam) and loved the sound, smoothness and the feel of clean buffet free air hitting me. This is a warm weather bike to be sure and a great "around town" platform that eats up the twisty local roads. I think BMW Motorrad should just make the small TFT standard - I think it looks great and is highly functional. The biggest downside of this bike is price. I was told by BMW Motorrad rep that you won't see these below $20K MSRP because of Premium Package standard for US import. I would still buy this bike as a companion to my GS or for when I get a little older and need something more 'approachable'. Great review here Zach. Nice work. I concur with your conclusions.
I've had mine for 7 years now. I commute daily on it, have weekends away, go for mad sunday blast and I've even taken it on a big European road trip on it. Amazing bikes imo, hence ive had it so long.
Using a half-height windscreen solves the highway touring problem. Givi makes a really nice one. I’ve been using for 8 years.. Turned my 2015 R9T into a true 1200 GS A complete with Wunderlich skid plate, hand Guard, and light touring luggage…. Sweet
When I was on the Grossglockner on my MV Agusta, a guy with one of these had just crudely cut his original BMW windscreen down to about half so he could stand cruising with it on his vacation. The full-size original windscreen gave him constant buffeting right on his helmet.
I bought a 2023 R nineT Scrambler Demo (201 miles) for $13k. Really enjoy riding it. I also own a BMW R1250 GS (weeks plus trips and moto-camping) and an R1250 R. I think I like riding the nineT the most. It feels like a motorcycle, if you know what I mean. I did buy a thicker seat with gel insert from Unit Garage (Italy). Much better than the OEM hard “plank” seat.
So the original one has more power, a better sound stock, bigger gastank and is obviously way cheaper used.. think I made my choice haha. My father owns the original r nine t not the urban or one of the other variations but the one with the best suspension and brakes. We are both true Kawasaki fan so we rented that one and a z900rs and even though that one is cheaper..boy let me tell you the R nine T blows it absolutely out of the water. Such a great and reliable bike. 40.000kms on the bike and 0 issues. 10/10 would recommend the original R nine T
Anything from BMW can get expensive fast with options. There’s a sweet spot if you don’t get carried away. Boxer twin riders know a few things that can keep costs down. The valve adjustment intervals are super aggressive and needlessly so. But the good news is these are some of the easiest modern motorcycles to work on yourself. Even if you’re not very mechanically inclined. Lots of content on RUclips about how to do the regular maintenance. Annual shaft maintenance might be worth having someone else do if you want to keep your own labor simple. But oil change, valve adjustments, etc is easy DIY. The boxer twin is funny looking and sounds kind of like a high precision farting machine. But they are so torquey, so fun, a really amazing travel companion. The engine layout has the center of gravity down low so they are way more playful than they look or sound. Maybe the only thing that you lose is the ability to have highway pegs to stretch your legs out on when on long rides. The history of BMW bikes with driveshafts is … complicated. Maintenance is much lower than chains, but more involved. And there’s some history of driveshaft failures to look into. There’s a strong aftermarket for BMW farkles but the cost of BMW stuff is often higher than for other brands … the BMW community is very strong but honestly mostly really old white guys. I’m in my 50s and often feel like the youngest guy in the group when I hang out with BMW groups. But the old guys know something. These are “buy once, cry once” motorcycles. The boxer twins live forever if you keep up with maintenance. They are stupid fun to ride. I guess I just wish boxer twins were available in more consumer-friendly brands. The closest you’re likely to get is a Honda Goldwing (boxer four) but decidedly not a scrappy little roadster like the BMW. I’d actually cross shop these against something more like a Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello if you want the riding and ownership experience, or one of the V7’s if you feel as I do that round headlights are the only headlights worth a damn.
Bought a 2017 in very early 2021. 2017 had a number of updates, 2021 many more like ride by wire throttle, led lights and then of course the new model. I’ve been very happy with it spent a lot on mods and now that new ones are so expensive I don’t mind as much spend what I did on modifications.
Looks pretty nice, see how it does for long ride comfort. The ride seems pretty darn smooth and easy going, the footless stops seem to be almost effortless and stable. The engine, and exhaust sounds nice subtle and pleasant while driving and at stops. The colors and pattern look right on and very attractive.
Another great review! Any plans to review the new speed twin 1200 in 2025? You mention it in several other reviews and how you like its previous versions but don’t have a recent review. Thanks for the great Moto content.
i would still absolutely find and an original from back in 2014 and buy that. Better spec, sounds better, and that engine will run forever and is effectively unchanged. All the newer ones are lower spec styling exercises, and expensive ones at that!
Yea that's what a dash should look like. Analogue speedo and tach. Wish I had that on my bike. And it looks a bit weird riding around without a key in the ignition :)
Regarding traveling on a modern classic Moto Guzzi V7 for year 2025 will get a cruise control which combined with 5.5gal tank and a comfortable seat makes it a decent option for longer trips.
Yeah I’m a BMW rider now (2016 R1200RT). I want my next bike to be a little lighter, a little more raw, but still fit for laying down big miles over long consecutive days/weeks of riding. I’m watching Moto Guzzi and like where they are heading. I think more than any other brand, they are figuring out how to pull BMW buyers and admirers to their own brand. I just wish they could figure out how to build a stronger dealership network presence in North America.
Let’s be honest. BMW is building these bikes for guys like me. 50 years old, disposable income, and an appreciation for a little finer details. I ride a BMW motorcycle nearly every single day. There’s a difference. There’s a little more refinement, the castings and forgings are a little higher quality, the switchgear feels a little better. Not tons. But a little better. The price hang ups I get. When I was a younger man, I would’ve complained about the same things. I didn’t have disposable income. Now I do. I buy better bikes.
I hear you. I just bought a new V-Strom 800DE and am disgusted by the corroding spokes, non-waterproof seat, non adjustable levers/controls, thin paint and various other shortcuts. I'm ready (and able) to pay more for a better bike.
@@brianmeyer3050 Beats me. I paid $11,800 for my V-Strom. I would pay $18,000 for the same bike if it came with better paint, better finishes (anodization, plating , etc), heated grips, cruise control, stainless steel spokes, a waterproof seat, adjustable controls and a working headlight. The stock headlight shouldn't be street legal. I have never owned a BMW but the poor quality on my Triumph and now my Suzuki has me looking for the door.
@@JayBee-cr8jmI owned a Suzuki, it was crappy and was my last suzuki. I have a BMW and I appreciate its quality and customer support. Looking to add a Triumph to my stable and your comment concened me. What model and year is your Truimph?
@@raymadani270 I bought a brand new Tiger 800XC in 2013 and it was easily the worst purchase I ever made. The bike burned oil from new. Endless complaining to the dealer got me no where so took it to another Triumph dealer. They found low compression on #3. They told me: "That's where you oil is going". I then contacted Triumph 'After Sales'. They offered to help but needed to speak with my dealer first. The dealer denied ever speaking to me about my oil consumption problem. Boom, just like that, no warranty. I still have no idea why they did that to me. I also had two transmission failures (Shift shaft and shifter pawl). The shift shaft was recalled in the Daytona's but not the Tigers despite the two engines having about 80% parts commonality. These failures occurred at 42k and 44k miles. Twice that summer I had to pull the clutch out. Twice that summer I had a six week wait for parts. Then there was two failed voltage regulators, failed horn, failed Triumph OEM heated grip, soft wheel spacers, poor quality wheel seals, flaking frame paint, weak/thin anodization (mirror stems went from black to grey to bare steel in three years despite being stored indoors), soft wheel powdercoat and a Then there was the non-fuctioning steering lock. You could literally engage the steering lock and rotate the bars full-lock in either direction. The locking pin wasn't long enough to reach the hole. How does something like that even get off the drafting table, through testing, into production and onto the showroom floor without someone noticing? These bikes ended up have a parade of "known issues". Unfortunately for me, none of these were known prior to purchase. There was the front wheel hop due to, I assume, stiction in the forks. I remember one guy on the forums nearly going bankrupt trying to fix that. I bought the bike new in '13. Rode it into '16. Threw it away for peanuts in '18. In short: Bad bike, bad dealer, bad manufacturer support. Three strikes and I'm out. Unless Triumph has made serious changes in quality control, testing, design and warranty support, I wouldn't give them another cent of my money. YMMV. Good luck.
These are very pretty bikes. Comparison to Z900 is interesting because z900 not my cup of tea, but you can buy 2 -Z900’s for the price of the R9T! Very different bike providing very different “feels”.
Zack it would be neat to have a special Revzilla video where you go back to your dad’s old airhead and kind of compare/contrast/reflect on how BMW is doing with regards to building modern bikes that are grounded in their heritage models that made the Motorrad great.
As the owner of a 2023 R nineT, I haven’t noticed any changes regarding the delay when switching driving modes-it is noticeable and equally annoying in all modes. However, it only happens and is noticeable when the bike is idling at low RPM, and you try to rev it for fun while starting the bike or when stopped at a road intersection. I believe this is due to Euro 5/5+ emission regulations. Bikes made before 2021 with Euro 4 compliance had a traditional throttle controlled by a cable, rather than the throttle-by-wire system. When riding, the delay between throttle input and actual engine response disappears, and the bike becomes a lot of fun to ride.
Boxer twins always struck me as an old man's bike, however now I am and old man I find my 9T perfect 🙂 Enough performance, decent handling and fit and finish is superb. However on my 2021 the rear shock was like a pogo stick so I swapped that for a Nitron unit.
Can you review a CB650R? It's basically the last middleweight i4 UJM that's still on the market which I think makes it quite interesting. I like mine a lot, I think it has a lot of character in a mature and refined way.
Thats the problem with all quick shifters. You can shift smoother with the clutch but when you are pinned going as fast as possible that is when quick shifters are really nice.
Yay! A new Daily. Oh its another $Bmw$.......... Love the Video's and Zack's part and the score board at the end. Did I put my foot down? Need more categories for daily Rider? Take More Points off for the $price$ Penalty!
bike suggestion: Honda cb125e potentially boring but it would interesting to hear your opinion given its often used here in AUS at motorcycle learner courses and is super common amoung delivery drivers
I'm a little bitte suspicious of Zack doing this as his "daily ride"...........daily, really??? Why you ask? Okay: as a big fan of his show from the start on, I rebuild his route on my sat nav and redrove it with our rental car when stopping in LA during our vacation last ('24) summer. Or at least I tried. But man, LA threw upon me what it had! The traffic was crowded and congested, literally EVERYWHERE! Okay, maybe because we started at 11.00 am and during a regular weekday? This leaves only one conclusion: Zack is filming this on sunday mornings, starting at 5.00 am. Can't explain it otherwise. For THIS commitment Revzilla should announce him every month as "Clerk of the month"! Greetings from a huge CTXP/DR/HSLS-fan from Germany to Zack, Ari and Spurge. Marcus (Whenever Revzilla plans so send Spurge to ride a lap on the Nordschleife I could happily lend him one of his favorites (a BMW R 1200 S) to do so.
I'm 6'3" (190cm) and primarily like to tour. This bike is in no-man's land for me. The gas tank is too small and the fuel range too short. The lower-body ergos are too cramped for long rides. It's not particularly fast and it's windy on the highway. If I only owned one motorcycle it would NOT be this one. If I owned 5 or 6 bikes, this might make it into my garage. For $20k plus, it's an easy pass for me. I have a BMW S1000R and that bike beats this one hands down. If I am going to be cramped, the ride better be exhilarating. Thank you for all the great Daily Rider episodes this year. Enjoy!
I’m the same height and when I bought my S1000R in 2015, I was trading in my R12000R, which is quite similar to the RNineT in concept, though slightly more capable of touring. The S1000R’s speed and handling were an addictive option, but TBH, the S1000R is still fairly cramped and touring isn’t the best on it. After a 500 mile day, I couldn’t wait to get off the bike. Nowadays, it’s relegated to the quick short runs (
@@nielsmeer - The manual for my S1000R says the fuel tank holds 4.6-gallons (17.5 liters). When I am touring on it I easily get 42 mpg or more, and around town, I get about 35. When I used my S1kR for touring I could do 650 miles max in a day, but the last 300 miles were an exercise in pain management. I got tired of being in pain, so I bought a Tiger 900 Rally Pro for long-distance trips and it is super comfortable. I kept the S1kR for shorter trips because it's such a thrill to ride fast. Nothing about the R12 Nine T thrills me except for the build quality and shaft drive. It's not particularly fast, it has cramped ergos, and no wind protection. Meh! Reasonable people can and do buy this motorcycle. I am simply stating my preferences at this moment. I will eventually have 7 motorcycles or so now that my kids are done with school and weddings. Even so, I don't see the R12 Nine T making it into my garage. Because I want to be comfortable, my bias will likely be toward fast adventure bikes like the V4 Multistrada.
@@JohnJay1745 It doesn’t have to be for everyone. While the S1000R certainly has more performance than the RNineT, I personally think the RNineT looks better & the shaft drive does make maintenance easier. While I appreciate the RNineT, I wouldn’t add one in my garage either. I was merely observing that compared to the S1000R, it would have more range and no worse ergos. I’m likely replacing my S1000R for a MotoGuzzi V7 as I like the character of that engine better than the pure power of my S1000R and after 10 years with the bike, I’ve grown a bit bored of it. But that’s why I love there are so many bikes available, there is always at least one for everyone’s preferences!
I rode a BMW Boxster years ago. That one was similar to this but had the telelever suspension. It was a *great* bike. Really balanced and just a blast to ride. Didn’t end up buying it and I think it would’ve been a perfect city/day-trip-to-the-mountains bike. Love the look of this but I think at $20k I’d look at the Triumph 1200XE.
Hope Zach is planning a recap session of the 2024 DRL? Would be an interesting exercise to see if there would be any changes based on reflections and/or new information.
Waking up, pouring myself a coffee and sitting down to a fresh episode of DR. Perfect way to start a weekend.
doing exactly that lol
It was lunch time for me 😄 but I totally relate.
Just before bed for me, but I guess its even better to watch before bed time.
Same!
Just finished climbing out of the Grand Canyon for me
But still relate! 👍🏿
I rode one through the alps last year. It is the best bike I have ever been on. I'm 5'9. My buddies had trouble with falling over in slow tight turns on their GS1200's, a problem I never had. It had a box on the back to hold my riding gear. I rode from London all the way through the alps and back. No issues, and very comfortable. Curves were awesome. I rented it from Superbikes outside of London for a very reasonable price. I ride a Norton, Valkyrie and GL1100 at home. This bike went far beyond my expectations.
Yay, Stondon Massey for Superbike Rental
I can't find one on Superbikes site... would love to rent one
Zack’s ability to do video reviews of bikes is beyond impressive
I saw one of these in red, blue and white about a year ago and it was spectacularly beautiful. I harassed the rider for about a half hour, talking to him about it. He had done several small improvements to it, to make it fit his needs perfectly. The workmanship on these is top notch. Shaft drive, tubeless cast rims and easy valve adjustments. A bike that is easy to live with.
you know how with some bikes you kinda get used to them and start looking elsewhere? Not with these. Ive neer met any owner who doesnt absolutely love them. Me included. ive lightened mine by about 15kg, removed rear passenger subframe, titanium headers, single seat, these are very effective very fast real world bikes and look in my eyes very classy. I dont want or need attention but goodnes me does this machine get em. Mines white silver with gold (option 719) paint. In europe at least they hold their value extremely wellyes, even after 2 yeasr of ownership, im smitten, more even than the day I first lay eyes on her.
Tubeless rims?.
Radials?
I like the boxer twins and was interested in a BMW but then I happened upon a local Moto Guzzi dealer and took a test ride on a V7 Stone. What a great machine! I would love a BMW from the 1970’s-80’s but BMW parts are so expensive and I already did that $vintage$ bike route once. The new ones (like this R 12) are way overpriced, but my new V7 Stone Special Edition was less than $12,000 OTD. It has many features similar to a 1970’s R 80 such as shaft drive, good mid-range power, simple 2-valve air cooled engine, 18” front wheel, and a dry clutch. It sounds even better than a boxer motor and is beautiful to look at. Oh, it also has a 5.5 gallon fuel tank. I’m glad there are great choices for different riders and incomes.
I'm on my 2nd V7 (traded my Stone for the Special Edition) and recently added the Upmap, velocity stack, and performance air filter to it. Can't recommend it enough. If you haven't already, I promise you won't regret it. The gains on paper are nominal, but I can definitely feel the increase in power, eagerness, and throttle smoothness that it brings. The 2025 V7 Sport is looking tasty. Not sure if it'll be replacing the SE or an addition. Used to be a BMW guy and I would love to have the R12 9T in my garage, but times have changed and I'm not shelling out 20K for a single bike when Moto Guzzi offers such a compelling value proposition and still has character, heritage, and panache. Also, they aren't ubiquitous like the BMW. I get asked about the V7 all the time. Much love to Moto Guzzi!
Moto guzzis are so underrated, I had a V7 Rough and my dad had a bmw r nine t and then a thruxton r and my guzzi was comfier than the beemer and had more soul than the triumph. I finally let her go in search of more speed (Aprilia tuono 660) but I'm going to buy another.
My BMW had over 120k miles on it. They will generally outlast most motorcycles.
The V7 is a gorgeous bike and that engine is neat, but having ridden both IMO the R9T is a better bike... faster, quicker, handles better.
Excellent choice sir! Not very high on power, but it doesn't need to be. It is such a nice bike! I ride both the V7III Racer and the Nine-T Racer. Very different in character and handling, both oozing character.
Thanks Zak for a year of reviews and finished on the bike I’m having delivered this Tuesday (early Xmas present 🤔). All bikes are awesome in their own way and this one is just like the rest, not perfect but like all new bikes, full of lovely tech to keep you upright and whatever is unique to the bike. I’m a sports bike rider through and through but I can’t wait to just throw my leg over this bike and just ride. No drama, no faffing, just riding. Happy Xmas to all, have fun and be safe ❤
It's very worth mentioning that the original model (regular NineT) has high-quality parts, but all the alternate NineT's, like NineT Urban, NineT Pure, etc, have worse suspension and a few other bits. So stick to the regular NineT.
21:30 is exactly why I sold my 2021 R NineT UGS, the feel, fit, and finish of the bike was amazing and it was absolutely love at first test ride but my goodness the BMW tax is no joke! Sure you can do the maintenance yourself but they have service interval warnings built into the dash that you can't clear without spending $600 for their fancy code tool. Anything done at the dealer costs at least $400 on a good day in my experience and it just got to a point where dealing with BMW tarnished the whole experience of that bike. My Royal Enfield GT650 has given me all the same warm fuzzies of the old school bike with just enough modern niceties to not be a hassle that I was looking for.
How come you did not buy the 911 Diagnostic tools which can reset the whole bike codes for 300 dollars and do all your own work? Better yet - more than a few BMW rider groups lend them out for free. Using that tool makes the bike great - nearly as cheap to run as the enfield and dead on bulletproof.
@@tedhoppe5918 I considered buying the 911 tool but one, they certainly weren't $300 when I looked around and two, that was only one of the straws that broke the camel's back. Another big thing was lack of aftermarket support for my particular model. Maybe standard models are different but mine was the 40th anniversary edition with the 719 option and all that which looked great but for the life of me I couldn't find a luggage system that fit with the exhaust, a windscreen that wasn't universal, engine guards that didn't need some special (and costly) extension to fit around the unique heads. It was all such a hassle to do anything with the bike other than ride as it came from the showroom and maybe that's the BMW experience, but it wasn't for me in the long run.
The RE GT650 is a good bike for RE, but as Joe Biden sez... "C'mon, man!" Comparable to the R9T? Really?
The Motoscan app for BMW motorcycles on an Android device will do the service reset - license is about $30. You need an OBDlink devices also - but much less expensive than the GS-911.
I would like to agree with @charleskilo4383 Having had an R-series, the maintenance on these bikes is truly rapacious (price, cost, time, headaches) and anyone suggesting some dark corner of the internet to get an OBD reader isn't offsetting that charge, they are supporting it. For the litany of bizarre issues, amazingly pedantic maintenance schedules and specialized, hard to find tools necessary to keep these things on the road, I call total BS on the 'ruggedness' and 'engineering quality' of these things. I just expect so much better from a premium bike with a premium price tag.
Finally, if you don't believe me, pick up one of Neil Peart's motorcycle travel books. There's one where actually says he planned his routes through BMW dealerships to keep with maintenance.
For the record, I checked in on the review to see if BMW found some maintenance-extending engineering that Ducati found with their new engines and I guess BWM has not. So, while it looks cool and the ergos are really choice, never for me until they fix their engineering. A bike should spend its time on the road not in the shop.
Thanks for your years work Zak and merry Christmas
Still have my 2020 /5 model, and still is my favorite bike ive owned.
One of the best reviews ever. Answered many of my questions.
Thank you Zack and the RevZilla team for creating this beautiful content. It has definitely become a part of my sat mornings with my coffee. Congratulations on your 100th episode. Here's to more
Love watching the Daily Rider even though I have never ridden a motorbike in my life!
What a great way to end the year. Always love to see a new DR.
These depreciate in the used market hard. Absolutely amazing used bike for sure with a warranty.
My local St Louis dealer is selling new 2024 R9T's right now for $9700. Tough to spend twice that much for barely any additional features.
@@jondiaz3475 Couldn't agree more. What's a stl dealer btw
@@narayanaprasadavanigadda4981 Sorry, i was referring to the St. Louis BMW motorcycle shop.
r nine t is way beautiful
I walked into the dealer looking at a 719 Edition that was over $20k. After talking with the dealer and test riding a used and slightly upgraded 2015, I came back three days later and bought the 2015 for $10K out the door… it was eight model years old with 9000 miles on it and $1500 worth of upgrades. Other than keyless start and cruise control, there’s nothing on the new modeIs I would be willing to pay for compared to mine.
Enjoyed the year. Learned lots. Thanks!
Spot on Zak. As i have watched you ride and video over the years i can see you mature into one of the best if not the best the editor in the USA on bikes. You called it right on the R9T in every way. The same can be said in a review going way back on a BMW Boxer from 1976, a R90/6 for example. You get the same feeling on the highway as on the R9T, true to its heritage. Add wind protection and the game changes and the long legged capability goes up on the scale. The comes the need for a better seat, bars, lights, storage. On and on…….. The bike is truly better today in every way of course but the feel is the same as long ago. BMW has many available accessories to customize the bike to change the look and feel a little, but BMW stops short of any real upgrade for wind protection. The see it that if you want that, then you need to buy a model with well designed wind protection. The 9T is the UBM (Universal Beemer Motorcycle) of motorcycles, for today.
Coming up on 40k miles on my 18’ UrbanGS, great touring bike, commuter, etc. all up and down the west coast and PNW.
Loved my 3 BMW’s. Super reliable and super long lasting. Fun to ride.
I love the nineT, especially in this color, but the price gap between it and the Speed Twin or Kaw Z900RS is not easy to stomach.
Kind of like comparing a Toyota with a .....BMW. Can occupy the same exact segment and be a different animal.
@@autonomousindividual7780 Well TOYOTA is richer company than BMW by the way.
And that BMW is Ugly when you compared to Z900rs se yellow edition.
@@autonomousindividual7780 more like a Lexus and bmw.
Yes Lexus is Toyota
Not unlike VW and Audi
Speed Twin all day! 😊
@lelouchabrilvelda1794 what i like is that bmw bikes seem to not be so disposable. They're still around from the 70s 80s 90s etc. I have an 03 1150gs and can get any part I need easily. I love the Japanese bikes too, but they just seem more disposable. The old ones are around but in junk condition. Probably due to who buys them rather than the bikes themselves.
I was unreasonably excited by the appearance of this video.
That bike is awesome! I love standard inverted forks and the fact that it's the older air/oil cooler twin.
I have the 2015 and it is incredible! Super comfortable even on 250 mile solo days. With Dunlop Q5S front and rear it is a blast on twisty roads. It does get a lot of attention when out and about, so add a few minutes to your plans for questions and random conversations.
Interesting! That's a pretty sporty tire on a bike like this! But yup, they will do you right in the twisties!
@@nickc2871 it is a fair weather weekend toy for getting out on SoCal back roads and I wanted to get maximum enjoyment out of it. I was blown away at how good it is with high-performance tires.
@@SprSonik13 Agreed! I am amazed at how good they are! If you get a chance, do a track day in them - they are incredible on the track! So confidence-inspiring!
I really enjoy DR thx Zack, looking forward to 2025
Great review. I own a 2017 RNineT Scrambler and was loaned the R12 for a day while mine was being serviced in the summer. I found my bike more comfortable so wouldn't change up to the newer model, particularly with such a big price difference (£10k).
Love this series ❤️
Sat on a R9T at 22 years old, instantly fell in love with it and would've bought one as my first and forever bike if not for the atrocious insurance premium at 400/mo. Settled for a beautiful W800, but I still yearns for the 9T. After a test session with the 12-9T, I can't say I'm happy with it, as it's just a little bit 'less' than the 9T-- Less fuel, less pretty, still for a lot of money. Will probably get a used 9T eventually.
Nice choice on the W800. They are beautiful motorcycles. I think that and the CB1000 are some of the best looking retro bikes.
Ok, that’s enough! You’ve GOT to get a 360 camera! I want to see the bike you’re reviewing, you and ok, a little of the road ahead but less of a dull freeway and the butt-end of container trucks! BTW, as an owner of the 400x (amongst others!) I LOVED the India trip. I will get a 9T at some point, probably a s/h early pure as still great bikes and with some many newer iterations they relatively cheap 💪🏼✊🏻👍🏻
Boxers aren't for everyone. I love the two I have, '83 R80RT, 2012 R1200R Classic. the 2012 has chased 1250 KTMs through the mountains and wasn't left "wanting".
The paint job is simply majestic
I always love DR, and I've longed for an OG RnineT from a decade ago and love this new one. Great, timely review. Side thought: how must it look to someone who doesn't know what's happening to see Zack on Lover's Lane, sitting on the pillion seat, hands off the handle bar and waving in explanatory excellence as he steers a bike through turns with his knees....
For higher speeds and touring a screen would be a great asset. Years ago I had a R850R with a screen and panniers, it was a great touring bike.
They nailed the design of the bike, boxer engine still properly displayed ❤❤.
Great video Zack 🤟
Solid review as always. Thanks Zack!
I love this bike. I think it looks amazing and would love to have one. Such a good sunny day bike.
Was waiting to hear your thoughts on this update forever. I have the 2014 rninet, i love it. The seat was terrible for touring (aftermarket helped a bit) but otherwise i hope to keep it in my stable for the next 50 year, glad to say i have no FOMO after hearing your review, those new gauges sure are pretty tho!
Recently bought a 2019 Urban GS with 1650 miles on the clock; brand new for just 10k EUR. That - in NL - is a bargain. Love the boxer engines! Has this anything to do with the content of the video? No, but I very much felt the need to share this... ;-)
Road this bike over the summer at a BMW Motorrad Demo Day event. I found it very well mannered, comfortable (6'4", 34" inseam) and loved the sound, smoothness and the feel of clean buffet free air hitting me. This is a warm weather bike to be sure and a great "around town" platform that eats up the twisty local roads. I think BMW Motorrad should just make the small TFT standard - I think it looks great and is highly functional. The biggest downside of this bike is price. I was told by BMW Motorrad rep that you won't see these below $20K MSRP because of Premium Package standard for US import. I would still buy this bike as a companion to my GS or for when I get a little older and need something more 'approachable'. Great review here Zach. Nice work. I concur with your conclusions.
Just swapped my 2015 GS for one of these and love it
I've had mine for 7 years now. I commute daily on it, have weekends away, go for mad sunday blast and I've even taken it on a big European road trip on it. Amazing bikes imo, hence ive had it so long.
This.
Using a half-height windscreen solves the highway touring problem. Givi makes a really nice one. I’ve been using for 8 years..
Turned my 2015 R9T into a true 1200 GS A complete with Wunderlich skid plate, hand Guard, and light touring luggage…. Sweet
When I was on the Grossglockner on my MV Agusta, a guy with one of these had just crudely cut his original BMW windscreen down to about half so he could stand cruising with it on his vacation. The full-size original windscreen gave him constant buffeting right on his helmet.
Man I love these vids
I bought a 2023 R nineT Scrambler Demo (201 miles) for $13k. Really enjoy riding it. I also own a BMW R1250 GS (weeks plus trips and moto-camping) and an R1250 R. I think I like riding the nineT the most. It feels like a motorcycle, if you know what I mean. I did buy a thicker seat with gel insert from Unit Garage (Italy). Much better than the OEM hard “plank” seat.
So the original one has more power, a better sound stock, bigger gastank and is obviously way cheaper used.. think I made my choice haha. My father owns the original r nine t not the urban or one of the other variations but the one with the best suspension and brakes. We are both true Kawasaki fan so we rented that one and a z900rs and even though that one is cheaper..boy let me tell you the R nine T blows it absolutely out of the water. Such a great and reliable bike. 40.000kms on the bike and 0 issues. 10/10 would recommend the original R nine T
No fuel gauge:
Use Trip 1 fuel range
Use Trip 2 for When to change oil.
Anything from BMW can get expensive fast with options. There’s a sweet spot if you don’t get carried away.
Boxer twin riders know a few things that can keep costs down. The valve adjustment intervals are super aggressive and needlessly so. But the good news is these are some of the easiest modern motorcycles to work on yourself. Even if you’re not very mechanically inclined. Lots of content on RUclips about how to do the regular maintenance. Annual shaft maintenance might be worth having someone else do if you want to keep your own labor simple. But oil change, valve adjustments, etc is easy DIY.
The boxer twin is funny looking and sounds kind of like a high precision farting machine. But they are so torquey, so fun, a really amazing travel companion. The engine layout has the center of gravity down low so they are way more playful than they look or sound. Maybe the only thing that you lose is the ability to have highway pegs to stretch your legs out on when on long rides.
The history of BMW bikes with driveshafts is … complicated. Maintenance is much lower than chains, but more involved. And there’s some history of driveshaft failures to look into.
There’s a strong aftermarket for BMW farkles but the cost of BMW stuff is often higher than for other brands … the BMW community is very strong but honestly mostly really old white guys. I’m in my 50s and often feel like the youngest guy in the group when I hang out with BMW groups.
But the old guys know something. These are “buy once, cry once” motorcycles. The boxer twins live forever if you keep up with maintenance. They are stupid fun to ride. I guess I just wish boxer twins were available in more consumer-friendly brands. The closest you’re likely to get is a Honda Goldwing (boxer four) but decidedly not a scrappy little roadster like the BMW. I’d actually cross shop these against something more like a Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello if you want the riding and ownership experience, or one of the V7’s if you feel as I do that round headlights are the only headlights worth a damn.
Maybe not the most practical bike, but, man, do I love the look of that bike!
Love this series!
Bought a 2017 in very early 2021. 2017 had a number of updates, 2021 many more like ride by wire throttle, led lights and then of course the new model.
I’ve been very happy with it spent a lot on mods and now that new ones are so expensive I don’t mind as much spend what I did on modifications.
Looks pretty nice, see how it does for long ride comfort. The ride seems pretty darn smooth and easy going, the footless stops seem to be almost effortless and stable. The engine, and exhaust sounds nice subtle and pleasant while driving and at stops. The colors and pattern look right on and very attractive.
Proper gauges! Thank-you, not some gimmicky little gaming screen.
Great year! Thanks 👍🏻
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Another great review! Any plans to review the new speed twin 1200 in 2025? You mention it in several other reviews and how you like its previous versions but don’t have a recent review. Thanks for the great Moto content.
i would still absolutely find and an original from back in 2014 and buy that. Better spec, sounds better, and that engine will run forever and is effectively unchanged. All the newer ones are lower spec styling exercises, and expensive ones at that!
Depends on which model. Get the more expensive option with usd forks and you’ll be happy. They added throttle by wire + CC in 2021. It’s worth it imo.
Man one of the professors at my college has one of these, didn’t know how much he was balling out 😂
Yea that's what a dash should look like. Analogue speedo and tach. Wish I had that on my bike.
And it looks a bit weird riding around without a key in the ignition :)
Awesome video! How does it compare to the Motoguzzi on the board? Best!
Regarding traveling on a modern classic Moto Guzzi V7 for year 2025 will get a cruise control which combined with 5.5gal tank and a comfortable seat makes it a decent option for longer trips.
Yeah I’m a BMW rider now (2016 R1200RT). I want my next bike to be a little lighter, a little more raw, but still fit for laying down big miles over long consecutive days/weeks of riding. I’m watching Moto Guzzi and like where they are heading. I think more than any other brand, they are figuring out how to pull BMW buyers and admirers to their own brand. I just wish they could figure out how to build a stronger dealership network presence in North America.
Let’s be honest. BMW is building these bikes for guys like me. 50 years old, disposable income, and an appreciation for a little finer details. I ride a BMW motorcycle nearly every single day. There’s a difference. There’s a little more refinement, the castings and forgings are a little higher quality, the switchgear feels a little better. Not tons. But a little better. The price hang ups I get. When I was a younger man, I would’ve complained about the same things. I didn’t have disposable income. Now I do. I buy better bikes.
I hear you. I just bought a new V-Strom 800DE and am disgusted by the corroding spokes, non-waterproof seat, non adjustable levers/controls, thin paint and various other shortcuts. I'm ready (and able) to pay more for a better bike.
Higher quality than what?
@@brianmeyer3050 Beats me. I paid $11,800 for my V-Strom. I would pay $18,000 for the same bike if it came with better paint, better finishes (anodization, plating , etc), heated grips, cruise control, stainless steel spokes, a waterproof seat, adjustable controls and a working headlight. The stock headlight shouldn't be street legal.
I have never owned a BMW but the poor quality on my Triumph and now my Suzuki has me looking for the door.
@@JayBee-cr8jmI owned a Suzuki, it was crappy and was my last suzuki.
I have a BMW and I appreciate its quality and customer support.
Looking to add a Triumph to my stable and your comment concened me. What model and year is your Truimph?
@@raymadani270 I bought a brand new Tiger 800XC in 2013 and it was easily the worst purchase I ever made.
The bike burned oil from new. Endless complaining to the dealer got me no where so took it to another Triumph dealer. They found low compression on #3. They told me: "That's where you oil is going". I then contacted Triumph 'After Sales'.
They offered to help but needed to speak with my dealer first. The dealer denied ever speaking to me about my oil consumption problem. Boom, just like that, no warranty. I still have no idea why they did that to me.
I also had two transmission failures (Shift shaft and shifter pawl). The shift shaft was recalled in the Daytona's but not the Tigers despite the two engines having about 80% parts commonality.
These failures occurred at 42k and 44k miles. Twice that summer I had to pull the clutch out. Twice that summer I had a six week wait for parts.
Then there was two failed voltage regulators, failed horn, failed Triumph OEM heated grip, soft wheel spacers, poor quality wheel seals, flaking frame paint, weak/thin anodization (mirror stems went from black to grey to bare steel in three years despite being stored indoors), soft wheel powdercoat and a
Then there was the non-fuctioning steering lock. You could literally engage the steering lock and rotate the bars full-lock in either direction. The locking pin wasn't long enough to reach the hole. How does something like that even get off the drafting table, through testing, into production and onto the showroom floor without someone noticing?
These bikes ended up have a parade of "known issues". Unfortunately for me, none of these were known prior to purchase.
There was the front wheel hop due to, I assume, stiction in the forks. I remember one guy on the forums nearly going bankrupt trying to fix that.
I bought the bike new in '13. Rode it into '16. Threw it away for peanuts in '18.
In short: Bad bike, bad dealer, bad manufacturer support. Three strikes and I'm out. Unless Triumph has made serious changes in quality control, testing, design and warranty support, I wouldn't give them another cent of my money.
YMMV. Good luck.
Can’t wait to pick up a well-kept, low mileage example in two or three years for a third of the price.
absolutely worth a comment.
These are very pretty bikes.
Comparison to Z900 is interesting because z900 not my cup of tea, but you can buy 2 -Z900’s for the price of the R9T!
Very different bike providing very different “feels”.
Zack it would be neat to have a special Revzilla video where you go back to your dad’s old airhead and kind of compare/contrast/reflect on how BMW is doing with regards to building modern bikes that are grounded in their heritage models that made the Motorrad great.
Hutzpa😂🇮🇱
Love the wheelie section❤️✌🏼
Making breakfast and watching zack ride through LA, was this what Ice Cube was talking about?
I've been waiting for a NineT review for so long, let's see what this 12 is about...
Great review! I think the new classic look of the new S model looks better! Is the Bmw 1300 gsa with the asa review coming soon?
I'm sad that there is no new Honda Interceptor / VFR, i'd love to hear a daily ride about it
cool bike i like the xsr700, cb650r, z650rs, sv650 more but the this is cool too
Excelente video.
Una pregunta. Se muestra en los relojes la temperatura del ambiente?
Gracias
yes it is
Rode mine till the reserved fuel warning tun on. It got me 230km before I visited the petrol station.
Question begs to ask why pay more 20k for same bike with smaller tank less HP when you can buy lightly used R9T for 10k and save 10grand
Delay is due to the driving mode. Put in dynamic and it will be more instantaneous. The breaks are a little smaller, but better.
I don't think the engine was reving up with a delay. The speedometer needle was too slow.
As the owner of a 2023 R nineT, I haven’t noticed any changes regarding the delay when switching driving modes-it is noticeable and equally annoying in all modes. However, it only happens and is noticeable when the bike is idling at low RPM, and you try to rev it for fun while starting the bike or when stopped at a road intersection.
I believe this is due to Euro 5/5+ emission regulations. Bikes made before 2021 with Euro 4 compliance had a traditional throttle controlled by a cable, rather than the throttle-by-wire system.
When riding, the delay between throttle input and actual engine response disappears, and the bike becomes a lot of fun to ride.
Would love to see it in the Urban GS trim.
Boxer twins always struck me as an old man's bike, however now I am and old man I find my 9T perfect 🙂 Enough performance, decent handling and fit and finish is superb. However on my 2021 the rear shock was like a pogo stick so I swapped that for a Nitron unit.
Biased here, but as a new owner of a '25 zx10r, I would love to see Zack ride one and directly compare it to the R1 on the daily rider scale
Can you review a CB650R? It's basically the last middleweight i4 UJM that's still on the market which I think makes it quite interesting. I like mine a lot, I think it has a lot of character in a mature and refined way.
Thats the problem with all quick shifters. You can shift smoother with the clutch but when you are pinned going as fast as possible that is when quick shifters are really nice.
Ooh, is that a Saab Sonett II at 11:33?
Yay! A new Daily. Oh its another $Bmw$.......... Love the Video's and Zack's part and the score board at the end. Did I put my foot down? Need more categories for daily Rider? Take More Points off for the $price$ Penalty!
When will the RE Classic 650 review be coming?
I hope you end up doing the 650cc vstrom one day
I have a 1250rt and that boxer engine is wonderful. Surprised at the low fuel economy. My much heavier rt averages 45mpg all the time.
bike suggestion: Honda cb125e potentially boring but it would interesting to hear your opinion given its often used here in AUS at motorcycle learner courses and is super common amoung delivery drivers
I'm a little bitte suspicious of Zack doing this as his "daily ride"...........daily, really???
Why you ask? Okay: as a big fan of his show from the start on, I rebuild his route on my sat nav and redrove it with our rental car when stopping in LA during our vacation last ('24) summer. Or at least I tried.
But man, LA threw upon me what it had! The traffic was crowded and congested, literally EVERYWHERE!
Okay, maybe because we started at 11.00 am and during a regular weekday?
This leaves only one conclusion: Zack is filming this on sunday mornings, starting at 5.00 am. Can't explain it otherwise.
For THIS commitment Revzilla should announce him every month as "Clerk of the month"!
Greetings from a huge CTXP/DR/HSLS-fan from Germany to Zack, Ari and Spurge.
Marcus
(Whenever Revzilla plans so send Spurge to ride a lap on the Nordschleife I could happily lend him one of his favorites (a BMW R 1200 S) to do so.
Wheelies and driveshafts are a bad combination. 😂🤘
Always love your Daily riders. Are you going to do the new MOTO GUZZI STELVIO?? 🤗✨🌴🙏🌴🌴
Are we getting a speed twin 1200 daily rider anytime soon?
I'm 6'3" (190cm) and primarily like to tour. This bike is in no-man's land for me. The gas tank is too small and the fuel range too short. The lower-body ergos are too cramped for long rides. It's not particularly fast and it's windy on the highway. If I only owned one motorcycle it would NOT be this one. If I owned 5 or 6 bikes, this might make it into my garage. For $20k plus, it's an easy pass for me. I have a BMW S1000R and that bike beats this one hands down. If I am going to be cramped, the ride better be exhilarating. Thank you for all the great Daily Rider episodes this year. Enjoy!
I’m the same height and when I bought my S1000R in 2015, I was trading in my R12000R, which is quite similar to the RNineT in concept, though slightly more capable of touring. The S1000R’s speed and handling were an addictive option, but TBH, the S1000R is still fairly cramped and touring isn’t the best on it. After a 500 mile day, I couldn’t wait to get off the bike. Nowadays, it’s relegated to the quick short runs (
@@nielsmeer - The manual for my S1000R says the fuel tank holds 4.6-gallons (17.5 liters). When I am touring on it I easily get 42 mpg or more, and around town, I get about 35.
When I used my S1kR for touring I could do 650 miles max in a day, but the last 300 miles were an exercise in pain management. I got tired of being in pain, so I bought a Tiger 900 Rally Pro for long-distance trips and it is super comfortable. I kept the S1kR for shorter trips because it's such a thrill to ride fast.
Nothing about the R12 Nine T thrills me except for the build quality and shaft drive. It's not particularly fast, it has cramped ergos, and no wind protection. Meh! Reasonable people can and do buy this motorcycle. I am simply stating my preferences at this moment.
I will eventually have 7 motorcycles or so now that my kids are done with school and weddings. Even so, I don't see the R12 Nine T making it into my garage. Because I want to be comfortable, my bias will likely be toward fast adventure bikes like the V4 Multistrada.
@@JohnJay1745 It doesn’t have to be for everyone. While the S1000R certainly has more performance than the RNineT, I personally think the RNineT looks better & the shaft drive does make maintenance easier. While I appreciate the RNineT, I wouldn’t add one in my garage either. I was merely observing that compared to the S1000R, it would have more range and no worse ergos. I’m likely replacing my S1000R for a MotoGuzzi V7 as I like the character of that engine better than the pure power of my S1000R and after 10 years with the bike, I’ve grown a bit bored of it. But that’s why I love there are so many bikes available, there is always at least one for everyone’s preferences!
aspirational bike , or at least for me, if i had the cash then i'd absolutely own one
I rode a BMW Boxster years ago. That one was similar to this but had the telelever suspension. It was a *great* bike. Really balanced and just a blast to ride. Didn’t end up buying it and I think it would’ve been a perfect city/day-trip-to-the-mountains bike. Love the look of this but I think at $20k I’d look at the Triumph 1200XE.
I don't even use the quick shifter. Muscle memory has me pressing the clutch in all the time.
@18:50 Zack decides to wheelie the 9T right in front of a cop!! 🙂🙂🙂
perfect old guy bike.
Would you ever add a new segment on how easy it is to be a good Samaritan on your ride and pick up cones?
Hope Zach is planning a recap session of the 2024 DRL? Would be an interesting exercise to see if there would be any changes based on reflections and/or new information.
did you get driveline lash on the bike
12:53 E30 sighting
How many bikes has Zack tested and that's the first I can remember the "twisty road section" being free of any car ahead.
Dual analog clocks.
See, Triumph? Still a good idea. Please roast 'em in the eventual Speed Twin 1200 RS daily ride
For sure! I'm not that charmed about those iPhone displays either. Both my bikes have dual analog. Feels more....real, if you know what I mean.
Hey Zack, can you make a review of the Guzzi Stelvio PFF with a QS? Love to know how you rate it.