iitzTimmy's Thoughts On Controller vs MnK Debate! - Apex Legends

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Комментарии • 500

  • @tbut155
    @tbut155 Год назад +320

    I freaking love Timmy. Most level headed and logical player and speaks very kindly

    • @rhythimrt9970
      @rhythimrt9970 Год назад +11

      "Logical" -> says controller is hard --> top mnk player beats best roller players.. on roller. "Hard"
      Nice doesn't equal right and he's just a politically neutral actor

    • @bobtherobber420
      @bobtherobber420 Год назад +6

      @@rhythimrt9970 what is your statement? Top players are able to beat other top players, who would have thought. Roller isn‘t even good when you don‘t know how to use it and that‘s why timmy said it‘s broken in competitive.

    • @rhyvehr
      @rhyvehr Год назад +3

      @@bobtherobber420 Nah timmy was saying "Controller is hard and takes skill"
      The point was the top MnK player picked up a controller randomly and rolled the best controller players worldwide. This basically proves that controller requires no reflexes or skill
      The controller skill cieling is barely a skill cieling at all because even the top MnK player can reach it in a few days

    • @bobtherobber420
      @bobtherobber420 Год назад +3

      @@rhyvehr the skill ceiling is definitely lower but you can‘t say that it would take no skill. Just because a skilled player is also skilled on another input it doesn‘t mean that it‘d take no skill.

    • @rhyvehr
      @rhyvehr Год назад +2

      @@bobtherobber420 Not the point I was making is that Timmy was acting like it's hard. It's not hard, any good player can pick it up and destroy enemies.
      The only skill involved in controller play is positioning yourself for success, while MnK involves about 10 times the amount of reflexes and mental work because you're not only focusing on positioning for success, you're focusing on your aim and you can't bank on aim assist to save your ass in a lot of situations. You have to use hard hand-eye coordination the entire time and don't have inherent recoil smoothing/perfect tracking.
      Especially with the sad state of apex where controller is so much stronger than MnK, it's sad that players with half the physical reflexes and skill can win tournaments against players who are trying substantially harder then them, and that's just a fact.

  • @eh8475
    @eh8475 Год назад +97

    At this point I don't care which one is harder cuz the hardest part about apex is developers not fixing audio, no hit regs or skill base match making

    • @PathfinderMain0
      @PathfinderMain0 Год назад +3

      And dropped on their head packers uh i mean strike packers

    • @atorius
      @atorius Год назад

      Nahh Controller Trumps No audio

    • @theirresponsibleghost7748
      @theirresponsibleghost7748 Год назад +3

      ​@@atorius so not being able to hear enemies in a game where audio is pretty important isn't a problem because rollers? Is that what you're saying

    • @kieronjdonovan
      @kieronjdonovan 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@atoriuswell if you take away even half sim assist you’ll lose 50% player base I could bet my life so I wouldn’t if I was you. Just enjoy apex while it’s still going

  • @BADWORD444
    @BADWORD444 Год назад +304

    Controller for shooting
    PC for movement

    • @saitamafps4528
      @saitamafps4528 Год назад +16

      Yeah because u can't improve your aim on pc and overwhelm aim assist....

    • @UhnknownX
      @UhnknownX Год назад +81

      @@saitamafps4528 take the feelings out of it bro. close to medium range controller dominates

    • @saitamafps4528
      @saitamafps4528 Год назад +10

      @@UhnknownX it depends on who js playing on pc my aim is better then aim assist

    • @Hawkeye1111
      @Hawkeye1111 Год назад +61

      @@saitamafps4528 keep lying to yourself bro, AA has auto rotation which helps a good controller player achieve near PERFECT tracking in close range fights, while mnk has HUMAN REACTION TIMES, so anytime someone strafes a different direction you literally HAVE TO give it a split second before you realize and adjust your aim. But yea you work on those aim trainers and lmk when you can consistently one clip every like an average controller player can

    • @Hawkeye1111
      @Hawkeye1111 Год назад +11

      Aa is at .4 on pc btw and they did a test where when you have AA at 100% as opposed to 40% it’s a literal AIMBOT. You don’t need any input on either stick and it completely follows opponents perfectly. So .4 aim assist is quite literally a soft aimbot given to controller players and you think aim training is gonna help you “overwhelm” aim assist. You’re a genius

  • @makermaker1768
    @makermaker1768 Год назад +53

    I like how he’s just casually playing with Hal

  • @dodgersrock1000
    @dodgersrock1000 Год назад +30

    Bros walking on thin ice with his words 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Swankman33
      @Swankman33 Год назад +4

      That's what you do when you don't want to say what you're actually thinking. He's lying

    • @perfecttoast4342
      @perfecttoast4342 Год назад +1

      @@Swankman33what????

  • @dylanyates1135
    @dylanyates1135 Год назад +130

    Am i just that ass? Cuz i don’t feel the aim assist on console 😂

    • @nickrudds7897
      @nickrudds7897 Год назад +33

      Linear and put your sensitivity right down it’s there!
      I think most people just misunderstand what aim assist does, it doesn’t auto aim but rather slows down your aim when aiming at an enemy making it easier to stay on target.

    • @BruceThePugDog
      @BruceThePugDog Год назад +11

      It's likely you're trying too hard. The aim assist is powerful when abused correctly. Use it like a cod quick scope.

    • @shishkiss2670
      @shishkiss2670 Год назад +13

      Not so long ago I tried MnK for the first time after playing ps4 for 2 straight years and it was sooo much easier to aim and move.

    • @crush8436
      @crush8436 Год назад +30

      1. If you’re on old gen console you may not actually have it in a lot of fights due to your FPS dropping to literally as low as 38 sometimes. This not only causes aim assist to not be present but also causes extreme inconsistencies in aim, reaction time, etc.
      2. Make sure you’re on console aim assist in your settings instead of the PC aim assist ( you have the option for 0.6 or 0.4 aim assist when playing on console)
      3. Delete all old data off your consoles hard drive (games, photos, recordings, etc) anything not being used.
      4. The BIGGEST if not most useful tip I can give you, coming from an ex console player who analyzes his gameplay like a fucking psychopath; pay attention and see if you’re flinching when playing. Make yourself sit still, make your hands calmer if you gotta move your head while playing. Me , my brother, and brother in law all used to move like crazy while playing, even our hands. The calmer the hands the easier to aim on roller AND MNK.
      Sorry for ranting but I just wanted to help you because I been there and done that lol. Also, HIGHLY recommend getting a 120hz+ monitor with a ps5/Xbox one X OR a PC.
      The difference is like watching free bootleg movies in shitty quality VS Watching movies in 4k with 3d glasses on in a surround sound theatre.

    • @kotztotz3530
      @kotztotz3530 Год назад +2

      Console is harder than PC with controller because the refresh rate And fps. 60fps/Hz is so much slower than 120+fps/Hz.

  • @kyleholcomb8115
    @kyleholcomb8115 9 месяцев назад +6

    "Controller is easier"
    "Would i use controller, absolutely not."

    • @codyhuber4252
      @codyhuber4252 6 месяцев назад +8

      Cause he enjoys playing on it more. I’m the same I played cod on controller for like 10 years then switched to pc and won’t go back cause it’s just more fun to play but just not as good

    • @ItsClutchLmao
      @ItsClutchLmao 3 месяца назад +2

      it’s about preference at the end of the day. some people don’t like the bot like movement you have with controller. etc

  • @fishywtf
    @fishywtf Год назад +3

    After playing r5reloaded flowstate target switching. It's easier to get .65 accuracy and above on roller. .6 on kbm is pretty hard but doable. The difficult part is how active your brain has to be on kbm vs roller. Roller you just think less and still get higher accuracy

  • @tonyreed8234
    @tonyreed8234 Год назад +8

    Very very well said thank u

  • @buttersstotch2014
    @buttersstotch2014 Год назад +1

    He should run for office 😂

  • @allys103
    @allys103 Год назад +2

    i play on controller and have for a while now and my aim is mid asf😭 i peaked at some point and can’t improve. i played on m&k once at my friends house and recoil was so much easier to control i wasn’t doing half bad for my first game on m&k

    • @PasstheA1
      @PasstheA1 4 месяца назад

      well that settles it guys! ally is mid asf on both inputs guess we should allow ai to do 40% of the work for more than half of our player base, completely tank our competitive integrity of the entire pro league, ruin nearly fifty existing mnk pros' careers and not mention it. great job EA. justify ruining mnk pros career prospects by not wanting to take an opportunity away from a 16 year old in high school thats next biggest talent other than roller is picking his nose

    • @allys103
      @allys103 4 месяца назад

      @@PasstheA1 i’m not asking for anything i just thought it was funny how i suck w a stick but am just as good my first try on mnk😭 are you good?

    • @PasstheA1
      @PasstheA1 4 месяца назад

      @@allys103 so essentially you suck on both inputs?

    • @allys103
      @allys103 4 месяца назад

      @@PasstheA1 i guess so. my issue anyways

  • @forus4600
    @forus4600 Год назад +14

    You either grow up playing on a console or playing on a computer... Either way, it's what you're used to. Of course the other is going to seem more difficult

    • @cjxd
      @cjxd Год назад +12

      or you grow up playing console and switch to PC and realize that the 2 inputs should not compete against each other

    • @atorius
      @atorius Год назад

      🧢

    • @atorius
      @atorius Год назад +1

      @@cjxdfacts 💯

    • @jazon345
      @jazon345 Год назад

      @@cjxd factual statement

    • @Its_iQ
      @Its_iQ Год назад

      @@cjxd I’ll always say it. We asked for cross platform between Xbox and PlayStation, I never had a convo back then where we were like “damn I wish we could play with the PC guys”

  • @slayridah
    @slayridah Год назад +26

    Roller players: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that!" 🙉🤡

    • @jeorgeac7831
      @jeorgeac7831 Год назад +7

      Pretend they didn’t hear what lol ? Timmy saying controller is the best thing for competitive apex but he’ll never switch to it bc it’s not good but it will dominate competitive bc it’s good. None of what he said was clear lol, just contradictory.

    • @atorius
      @atorius Год назад +7

      @@jeorgeac7831🤡

    • @kenbxnds4823
      @kenbxnds4823 Год назад +3

      @@atorius “🤡” -🤓

    • @WubzZz-
      @WubzZz- Год назад +3

      @@jeorgeac7831 Where did he say that controller is not good?? He said he thinks that it is challenging, but Aim Assist is very strong on Apex and its much harder for MnK players to aim. As to the reason why he would never switch is because Timmy has been playing MnK for years essentially since he was a kid so he is much more familiar with MnK than he is with a controller which is why he doesn't see himself switching. Plus he plays so many other games other than Apex like Valorant and Tarkov so it doesnt make sense for him to switch.

    • @landontucker2866
      @landontucker2866 8 месяцев назад

      @@WubzZz-
      Great job at killing your game

  • @MrLenny9999
    @MrLenny9999 Год назад +1

    Incomparable bc of the input, especially console and pc

  • @bbyshady
    @bbyshady Год назад +4

    lol if controllers were super dominate then every pro would be playing controller. It’s funny how he didn’t mention all the advantages mnk has over controller.

    • @MikeGrau0hr
      @MikeGrau0hr Год назад +3

      tell him! u know it better!

    • @JohnSmith-zk3kd
      @JohnSmith-zk3kd Год назад +6

      alot of the pro league is switching to controller alot of top pro teams do a 2-1 spilt 2 roller 1 mnk

    • @bbyshady
      @bbyshady Год назад

      @@MikeGrau0hr yeah bc I actually play controller and he doesn’t.
      Pay attention to what ppl do, not say.
      He plays mnk so clearly he thinks that is the better input.

    • @187xen
      @187xen Год назад +2

      the delusion is so strong in this one, keep crying

    • @nephew455
      @nephew455 Год назад

      I don't play this game, are the best players/pros using one more than the other? Or is it even? I know that in warzone the last few decent players who were still using keyboard have switched over to controller

  • @Bloomshot1k
    @Bloomshot1k Год назад +34

    At the end of the day. It’s more about what your comfortable with & enjoy daily. I tried controller after 5 years to see the apex Op Aim assist. It does have a lock but I’m no longer happy with how the look around feels I’d rather flick and float my aim than feel like I’m going in a limited circle. It doesn’t matter but each there own tbh. Controller or not someone with the same input is going to be better than you. Just keep it going & shoot lol

    • @vividclips7592
      @vividclips7592 Год назад +2

      This guy should jump on console and tell me if you lock on lol these streamers are arguing about controller aim assist on pc. For like tournaments and shit like that

    • @LlamaDude318
      @LlamaDude318 Год назад +6

      @@vividclips7592 console aa is higher lol

    • @JayGamesAndReacts
      @JayGamesAndReacts Год назад

      ​@@LlamaDude318 to my knowledge its exactly the same 0.6

    • @LlamaDude318
      @LlamaDude318 Год назад +4

      @@JayGamesAndReacts pc is .4

    • @vividclips7592
      @vividclips7592 Год назад

      @@LlamaDude318 I’ve got pc and console. Maybe it is maybe it isn’t? I just feel like aim assist on pc is op, but console aim assist is pretty standard. I come across pc players while on console and i get absolutely destroyed 😑

  • @Amistttt
    @Amistttt Год назад +5

    Mouse n key ain't that hard either once u get used to it. Also easier to tapstrafe, loot, snap your aim etc

    • @callmeacutekitten8106
      @callmeacutekitten8106 Год назад +3

      take a year for most to get used to m&k wym its not hard

    • @Amistttt
      @Amistttt Год назад +3

      @@Icesweats 1 thumb > whole arm and hand

    • @tbut155
      @tbut155 Год назад

      After you get over the carpel tunnel, yes

    • @jige3428
      @jige3428 Год назад

      Tap strafe op on controller with the good Steam config and take less time to master, most ppl dont know controller can easily tapstrafe

    • @callmeacutekitten8106
      @callmeacutekitten8106 Год назад +2

      @@Amistttt thumb + 40% aimbot > muh whole arm

  • @OGfancy420
    @OGfancy420 Год назад +4

    There is still a massive skill gap on controllers. It isn't free knocks, and recoil can be a nightmare depending what settings you use.

    • @natedavis2944
      @natedavis2944 Год назад

      True

    • @ILootStandingStill
      @ILootStandingStill Год назад +1

      That’s what people tend to overlook. To them we’re all the same, just walking turrets lol. But in reality there’s a HUGE difference between the top controller players and the random controller players I get as teammates every game.

    • @OGfancy420
      @OGfancy420 Год назад

      @@ILootStandingStill facts. This rhetoric wasn't really big when I was brand new, and thank God because I was horrible and it would have been very disheartening to hear stuff like what is said about controller nowadays.
      Btw, I recognize u lol I remembered

    • @ILootStandingStill
      @ILootStandingStill Год назад +1

      @@R3m. na, get good.

    • @ILootStandingStill
      @ILootStandingStill Год назад +2

      @@R3m. it was half troll, but if you’re consistently getting 1 clipped by brand new players I’d say it is partially a skill issue. I rarely ever get 1 clipped even by seasoned players.

  • @3XZDgg
    @3XZDgg Год назад +1

    ITT: bronze players who can't identify a neutral, fence sitting, politically safe, pr statement when they see it.

  • @lencelimbu2765
    @lencelimbu2765 Год назад

    What I would say is that as long we all feel comfortable playing game is winning or loosing we losse sometimes we win 😅

  • @xtenuemx
    @xtenuemx Год назад

    The only take that I respect love Timmy.

  • @ashcamethrough6128
    @ashcamethrough6128 Год назад +7

    An average pc player would shit on an average console player. Tell me I’m wrong

    • @kindajacked5154
      @kindajacked5154 Год назад

      You’re wrong lol

    • @kindajacked5154
      @kindajacked5154 Год назад +1

      @@onyxdotexe8934 yes, he is wrong. Above average mnk pc player, 65000 kills triple pred. Me? Masters controller bot, smoked him 10-0 💀
      Mnk players struggle when it comes to strictly aiming, you don’t let them dance over your head with movement crack and stay one clipping they do not stand a chance
      You are both evidently lower skilled unknowledgeable players. For example what’s your highest solo q rank, kills/dmg, kdr? Any knowledgable player is aware roller is winning that 9/10 times

    • @IMPRTNS
      @IMPRTNS 10 месяцев назад +2

      A new console player will completely shit on a new m&k player

    • @IMPRTNS
      @IMPRTNS 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@kindajacked5154correct, just really bad players or players that never played m&k will talk like that, if you master both inputs you will know that controller has the advantage, imperial and Gen are the proof

  • @docksie383
    @docksie383 Год назад +2

    Plugged in a controller after reading Hal's post about how he will single handedly get controller nerfed for 4-3 linear no dead zone. I went into my first match and close range? I just had to aim in the general direction and it legit made me feel like I was cheating

  • @jeremy8481
    @jeremy8481 Год назад +3

    So basically he just said that everything sucks about controller except the aim so movement and eveybting is is mnk so why is roller vs mnk a argument when the one that cries about aim assist is basically sayin that controller game style sucks compare to mnk

    • @serenity8244
      @serenity8244 Год назад +7

      Bcz a guy who played 1k hours on apex mnk can EASILY die to someone with 10 hours game time in close range . Picked my controller after only using it for fifa and f1 and i was beaming close range

    • @klobite
      @klobite Год назад +3

      @@serenity8244 even genburten said it is OP asf, but they just won't accept that

    • @asdsa7434
      @asdsa7434 Год назад +1

      Can you please use your brain before commenting? Or rewatch the video if you have comprehension issues

    • @187xen
      @187xen Год назад

      @@klobite They never will these deluded cringers

  • @tdhhellian7509
    @tdhhellian7509 Год назад +1

    That's the fairest argument anybody has made. Everyone is hopping on the "Roller Op" bandwagon as if it doesn't have huge drawbacks of it's own, while MnK has nearly a dozen advantages over controller.
    The difference is that AA is there to compensate for how cramped a controller is and how much you have to do to use it. MnK you can bind what ever you want to whatever button you want, with a desk length of room to aim. AA is situational. You lose it doing certain things, like shooting through windows or Bangalore smoke. AA doesn't activate in many situations where it would help, and tends to show up when you're not needing it. The amount of times I've been shooting and missing because there isn't any grab from the AA. Then I go to shoot near downed enemies playing knockdown shields, it's a critical moment and my AA just wants to grab onto downed players and messes up my flicks, or tracking.

    • @187xen
      @187xen Год назад

      cope you can’t flick or AA thru bang smokes kek refer to my other comments

    • @tdhhellian7509
      @tdhhellian7509 Год назад

      @@187xen what?

  • @faster6313
    @faster6313 Год назад +2

    Not a big factor but aA can get you killed sometimes. When you beam someone to one shot and then his teamste steps in. AA thinks you want to lock on to the full health dude instead of the one tap dude. Then they but end up double teaming you.

  • @rickywood8805
    @rickywood8805 Месяц назад

    Controller: easy to master hard to get good at
    Mnk: hard to master easy to get good at

  • @The1neWhoKnockz
    @The1neWhoKnockz Год назад +1

    Played controller most of my life and I’m barely switching over to MnK and there’s no comparison, the amount of control you have is night and day. Controller is not better guys 😂☠️

    • @triyo1089
      @triyo1089 Год назад

      Mnk might have more control, but that doesnt stop 50% of people that use it from missing more than half their mags 😂 it feels better but tbh most people really cant use mnk to a high potential which is why most the people in this game run roller. They dont need to actually practice

    • @The1neWhoKnockz
      @The1neWhoKnockz Год назад

      @@triyo1089 yeah, I think controller is easier to pick up and play vs MnK. Atm my biggest issue with MnK is movement believe it or not. My aim is pretty good considering I’m still new. Besides that I think if you put the best controller player vs best MnK player the MnK player is winning.

    • @triyo1089
      @triyo1089 Год назад

      @@The1neWhoKnockz considering 9/10 of the top fraggers in ALGS are roller thats kind of already been proven that roller dominates at the highest level.
      Main reason why i dont like roller though is movement, i beam hard on both, even at distance with roller beaming isnt hard, and i def feel a strong advantage in close quarters but i just dont like the roller movement at all. I like being able to super glide, tap strafe, and super jump off zips. Could be just bc ive been hard stuck mnk since 2018 though. I just move a lot better and fluid on mnk now a days, but ive been playing more roller on an alt account trying to work my way up ranked with it and even after just a week roller just feels like easy mode on a hot drop or when you get in close. Already not an issue to beam at 50-75m with rifles and a 3x’s on roller and be as consistent on roller (after not even 200 games) as i am after almost 2000 games on mnk Aim wise.
      Entire meta is based around roller strengths with it being hyper-aggressive and smg/g7 meta. Just crack with a g7 then gain ground snd run a car and thats pretty much all you need to abuse AA.

    • @triyo1089
      @triyo1089 Год назад

      And thats why most people use roller, bc the skill gap is so much smaller you see much steeper improvements at a faster rate. With minimal effort tbh, bc mnk does take a lot more work to actually be good and consistent with.
      I will say mnk is much more addicting though, demolishing someone with raw input and nothing helping you just feels better lol

    • @The1neWhoKnockz
      @The1neWhoKnockz Год назад

      @@triyo1089 yeah I’m falling in love with MnK slowly but surely. It’s tough but the skill ceiling for MnK is much higher than controller imo. Can’t wait to start closing the gap on my controller skill with MnK.

  • @rickywood8805
    @rickywood8805 Месяц назад

    Don't forget also controller players have like half the techs that mnk do

  • @Toshiro_A1
    @Toshiro_A1 Год назад +3

    Hes right. Aim and recoil control takes practice on Controller but the movement is the hard part now that's what's hard

  • @letrix7542
    @letrix7542 Год назад

    Litterly picked a roller for the second time in apex and one clipping purple shields

    • @_bored2death
      @_bored2death 7 месяцев назад +1

      Let me guess u were close to them

    • @ryan-li1pw
      @ryan-li1pw Месяц назад

      @@_bored2death let me guess youve never played on kbm

  • @zerostatic1209
    @zerostatic1209 Год назад +3

    I had play both controller and keyboard/Mouse and I prefer 100 times keyboard is hugely better and I'm happy aim assist exist cause your sacrificing alot of movement for aim to see good people doing crazy stuff with controller doesn't means that all of them are like it majority moves likes npc.

  • @jervi2391
    @jervi2391 Год назад +1

    When people talk about MnK vs controller . They should always say controllers on PC and steam settings are what's op . But console controller is not the same as PC controller settings. Also those mod controllers.
    All those things should be considered when they compare the 2 . They say best players are on controllers but that's not true. Cause I'm sure mnk players are better players then console controller players. But PC controller is better then mnk .

    • @MikeGrau0hr
      @MikeGrau0hr Год назад

      irrellevant. console double aa.

  • @Rafek2115
    @Rafek2115 2 месяца назад

    Crossplay PC- Consol should be Off, this is good idea

  • @rolandbridgeman5450
    @rolandbridgeman5450 Год назад

    Ive okayed both and its easier to beam at a distance on pc controller only dominates up close

  • @Slate674
    @Slate674 Год назад

    M&K wins in every other aspect, but controller rules in those close range fights, M&K can compete but its harder

  • @derbayerische
    @derbayerische Год назад

    My man spitting some facts

  • @matthewmorrison3745
    @matthewmorrison3745 Год назад

    I'm straight up contemplating going mnk just because no stick drift EVER

  • @bullymaguire4295
    @bullymaguire4295 Год назад +3

    So controller is better and dominant, but you won't use controller. Nice

    • @saitamafps4528
      @saitamafps4528 Год назад +1

      No it's not wtf 🤣🤣🤣

    • @bullymaguire4295
      @bullymaguire4295 Год назад +1

      ​@@saitamafps4528 said it was dominant for competitive and aiming

    • @saitamafps4528
      @saitamafps4528 Год назад

      @@bullymaguire4295 nah it was never be dominant shooters are made for m&k

    • @187xen
      @187xen Год назад

      hard copium, for sure he should drop the movement he’s trained for years to beam a bit better bc AA is disgusting op on roller

    • @saitamafps4528
      @saitamafps4528 Год назад

      @@187xen hold my smoke I'm Bangalore main 🤣🤣🤣

  • @AdaptiveMK1
    @AdaptiveMK1 2 месяца назад

    Me playing on high sens ALCS:
    What aim assist

  • @rasartor5527
    @rasartor5527 Год назад

    I think on pc with steam deck its just controller which is to op i mean most people said tap strafe was only mnk but no!

  • @rinny2540
    @rinny2540 Год назад

    Bruh Aiming on pc Isn't hard at all, aim assist is all controller have to be even decent in combat tbh.
    Majority of the people in these comments crying like they run into Pred/Master controller players almost everyday. The band wagon is already full y'all need to chill 🤣

  • @ricedup7826
    @ricedup7826 Год назад +3

    No. Don't agree.

  • @tensa-
    @tensa- Год назад

    now all the roller players can shut up xD

  • @RollingPapersEXE
    @RollingPapersEXE Год назад

    Mnk is better st movement and rollers are better at aim but that's about it, It takes the same amount of time to get used to

    • @saitamafps4528
      @saitamafps4528 Год назад

      Bruh they are not better u can adapt at the game and overwhelm the AA and also AA it's not that OP it's bullshit, when u play on roller u have to move like a freaking robot

    • @RollingPapersEXE
      @RollingPapersEXE Год назад +1

      @@saitamafps4528 ok first of all you proved my point second I've played mnk for the same amount of time that I've played roller (almost 17 yrs) I didn't say one was better than the other so slow down cowboy

    • @727pog
      @727pog Год назад

      @@saitamafps4528 and about that not everyone is a tap strafing demons. Also not everyone just use tap strafe in the fight wtf yall get aa in every fight. If there is one option between aimbot and ability to just jump left / right what are you going to pick

  • @kaylaquinones7839
    @kaylaquinones7839 Год назад

    My guy said it's hard

  • @skyesanders8798
    @skyesanders8798 8 месяцев назад

    I think controller has easier to adapt to settings and aim assist is definitely an advantage, but I still think mnk ha sa much higher skill ceiling.

  • @carlitosssr
    @carlitosssr Год назад

    If controller is better why not everyone is predator or at least master in console lmao

  • @steele5048
    @steele5048 Год назад +4

    Aim assist is strong for up to 30 yards, then it gets hard to control. Just tired of people crying about the input that is designed for video games because they want to use an input made to send emails. But Timmy is the only honest big streamer who will say controller needs aa because of the lack of control from a stick. Mnk still has way more advantages then a controller throughout the game if you take away controller one advantage

    • @RiceCubeTech
      @RiceCubeTech Год назад

      The difference is one is all manual input, the other is computer assisted input.
      The argument is that just because you choose a certain peripheral, you shouldn’t get artificial support. I know dudes who have insane aim with aim assist turned off. I’ll fully acknowledge that if they kill me when we are 1v1ing they were just better that round.
      My issue is when my controller friend who has maybe 300 hours can hit a one clip on a player who’s tap strafing and wall bouncing around, solely because aim assist. Most MnK players still can’t track crazy movement even with 1000 hours logged, but someone with computer assistance and a controller can.

    • @steele5048
      @steele5048 Год назад +1

      @@RiceCubeTech nah aim assist slows down aim when around a target. Your argument that no skill controller players can track mnk players as the bounce and tap strafe all around is a lie. Aim assist literally makes tracking extremely fast movement extremely hard to track, especially on classic response. Aim assist is OP up to about 30-40 yards but after that controlling recoil is more on the player. But this argument will never end because people gotta complain about why they die. In the end control players have the advantage on aim up close, every single other aspect of the game mnk is superior. Mnk is for emails!!!

    • @RiceCubeTech
      @RiceCubeTech Год назад

      @@steele5048 bruh do you not know the difference between sim slowdown and rotational aim assist? Rotational aim assist when cranked up to 1.0 values literally fully tracks moving targets with zero player input. At .6 it’s 60 percent as strong. Period. That’s how apex rotational assist works.

    • @avopeac6300
      @avopeac6300 Год назад

      Home Computer FPS games have been using MnK input since their conception. Atari ST was MnK. False dichotomy.

    • @_bored2death
      @_bored2death 7 месяцев назад

      @@RiceCubeTechu have aim assist to just tuned down u know that right.

  • @Unforgivenn
    @Unforgivenn Год назад +1

    After switching to controller for 1 day after not using one in 5 years I can honestly say yes aim assist is fucking broken. I am UNINTENTIONALLY 1 clipping everyone I see. It is hard to get back in the grove of controller and I also have a like a bootleg ps4 controller and the sticks are washed but it’s still crazy that I just pull the trigger down and clip someone. Like if I were to stick to controller full time I would. However, I am not gana switch full time. Because MNK has a much higher skill gap and as someone who is very competitive I would rather focus my time on getting better mechanically then just letting the controller do 50% of the work for me. Also, I play other games that are MNK only. Idk I’ve always understood why aim assist is a thing ofc but it seems a little too dominate at the moment especially since it’s SMG meta rn

    • @187xen
      @187xen Год назад +3

      Yeah try telling that to a controller player that isn’t completely delusional and will agree that it’s absolutely broken, same boat here been spamming 60hz on xbox s for quite a while and beaming has never been easier (like you said to the point it’s unintentional sometimes, lvl 35 3.05kda and I got 19kills as my best, pc being 13kills WITH YEARS of experience in shooters) these people love speaking out of their ahh bc they feel inferior, can tell you that as a long time MNK with controller friends, always looking at advantages to blame when they aren’t there, ridiculous ppl

    • @Zvxny666
      @Zvxny666 Год назад

      I’m d2 on PC and a controller player & rarely actually one clip someone.. aim assist really isn’t that broken

    • @Unforgivenn
      @Unforgivenn Год назад

      @@Zvxny666 I mean idk what to tell you im literally just unintentionally 1 clipping people constantly and still am lol dont wana be that guy but might be a skill issue and im not trying to be rude

  • @andrewparisotto2631
    @andrewparisotto2631 Год назад

    Mouse and keyboard movements is so much better and aim assist only helps at close to mid range and jitter aiming is damn near impossible not to mention you can only map so many buttons on controller

  • @VeIez
    @VeIez Год назад

    i get what hes saying, but the the same rule applies to mnk, if you play it a lot its ez

  • @iwnlseve7031
    @iwnlseve7031 Год назад

    Well timmy was 4sure thinking

  • @MrBoxMan20
    @MrBoxMan20 6 месяцев назад

    No emotional damage

  • @guapo2960
    @guapo2960 Год назад

    Mnk always beats controller so he clearly is just saying what he is being told to say . They literally have scripts and a bunch of other shit that controller players don’t have so I’m gonna be the one to call cap 🧢

  • @thxyou6662
    @thxyou6662 Год назад

    Aim assist sucks 4 people learnt to use the control back in the day it makes my game harder because I'm used to doing to work not the game

  • @o_o9039
    @o_o9039 5 месяцев назад

    ive played both for a long time and ny aim better on mouse than controller and ive played roller longer than mouse so idkk

  • @YoshikageKira33
    @YoshikageKira33 8 месяцев назад

    Im sorry but i was playing minecraft on the ps3 when i was 4 and then i have played the ps4 ever since i am just too used to controller that i cant switch without years of training im sorry but i guess imma skip cs valorant and Yes sadly tf2 until i feel motivated to learn so thats why i always will choose controller not because of which is better (altough aim assist feels amazing) i am just too stuck in my ways

  • @nikpumpkin5895
    @nikpumpkin5895 Год назад

    Yeah but pc can aim with their entire hand and not just their thumb. So i feel in that aspect along with movement pc has an advantage

  • @TheKasikaasu
    @TheKasikaasu Год назад

    controller is better close range, and ok mid range but loses to K&M in precision and especially long range encounters

  • @Zvxny666
    @Zvxny666 Год назад

    Nothing he said even makes sense

  • @FauxVon
    @FauxVon Год назад +1

    I switched to mnk from controller up close roller is strong but that’s it every other situation mnk is on top . And to be fair if you have movement too on mnk aim assist kinda sucks or if you use Bangalore there’s no aim assist. I’ve found aiming on mnk so much easier only catch was getting used to close range but after tht it’s not even close

    • @RenonTTV
      @RenonTTV Год назад

      You don't play mnk with that opinion lmfao. I'm gm with hitscan in ow2, imm3 peak in valorant, but plat controller players will consistently beat me in close to mid range fights in apex.
      Mnk is miles harder than controller and will never beat it in aim assists current state

    • @FauxVon
      @FauxVon Год назад

      Sounds like u need movement 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @RenonTTV
      @RenonTTV Год назад

      @@FauxVon movement doesn't do anything versus aim assist, plus I know every mnk movement tech...

  • @eastonhodge8791
    @eastonhodge8791 Год назад

    how bro, name a controller player actively sliding around like timmy and faide, you just cant move the same on xbox and it kind of taints the experience

    • @187xen
      @187xen Год назад

      LOL it’s a shooter game not a movement game at it’s core, movement players are movement players and they’re only advantaged bc MNK is more fluid and consistent in terms of moving around properly, if pros and i mean PROS NOT YOU, would care more ab fancy schmovement they would remain on mnk, but it’s not that kind of game, the AA offered by roller literally halves TTK and that in A SHOOTER GAME (not movement) literally changes the entire dynamic, stop delusion kek

  • @JayGamesAndReacts
    @JayGamesAndReacts Год назад

    Controllers better for close range. That's where controller shines and m and k shines mid to Long range .

  • @ghavinnewhittington5826
    @ghavinnewhittington5826 Год назад

    All the MK players talking trash on rollers, switch. If it’s really better then switch. You’re not gonna? Alright then stfu

  • @Soliinu
    @Soliinu Год назад

    Crazy cause controller went from .6 to .4 aa. I think it’s just controllers catchin up.

  • @christopherhitchens163
    @christopherhitchens163 Год назад

    Please don’t call them rollers, thats very cringe

  • @roman111117
    @roman111117 Год назад

    My only problem is this, sure, I'll give it you, it's easier to aim on controller but it's easier to move on pc. Where is all the outcry to get rid of countless movement techs that make it unfair? It's not there because controller players aren't whiny crybabies lol.

  • @Nerlss
    @Nerlss Год назад +2

    Streamers have to have something to whine ab

    • @kindajacked5154
      @kindajacked5154 Год назад

      And Low skill players always fail to understand, pretty common

  • @Ghostvor
    @Ghostvor Год назад

    Cap asf. If that was so true then all the people making money from being good at FPS would use a controller. Same reason they all use the best mouse, best keyboard, best chair, best PC specs, best EVERYTHING yet they refuse to use what is the "best" thing to aim with? Big sike, its just copium from MnK players when they dookied on by a console player they wanna cry about AA even though 9/10 times they beam console players in 3 seconds from 50yards away.

  • @georgespurlock5547
    @georgespurlock5547 Год назад +1

    “Would you use a controller if money was on the line?”
    Timmy: “Nope. But only because it sucks in every way. Except one.”
    I just got ddos-ed on console for the first time last week after playing for 3 years, and we’re still on this?!

  • @moyaneiszen6280
    @moyaneiszen6280 Год назад

    Aim is sacred on FPS game, aim assist just legal soft aimbots. i prefer separate lobby by input to prevent crying loser on both side controler and mnk also to eliminate excuses like "i feel comfortable" bullsht

  • @Demonz56
    @Demonz56 Год назад

    I'd have to disagree mnk has better aim over all at all distances and they have more capabilities to do everything tap strafe quick adjustments and faster reactions. Controller literally only has aim assist that's it and it's only good at a 15m range at best where as mnk can laser way past that

    • @187xen
      @187xen Год назад

      @@LessSkilled Let it die mate these ccks will look for everything to delude themselves with and keep their aimbot on

  • @bogarmartinez2231
    @bogarmartinez2231 Год назад

    For context the aim assist is bumped up when you go into pc lobbies to help them out but when you play in console it’s not as strong

    • @WsG82
      @WsG82 Год назад +2

      For context you are factually wrong. Console is .6 AA , pc is .4 :)

    • @727pog
      @727pog Год назад

      @@WsG82 and why would people on pc use controller?

    • @WsG82
      @WsG82 Год назад +2

      @@727pog Because it's broken ...

    • @727pog
      @727pog Год назад +1

      @@WsG82 yes that's why Actually the problem here is probably because some dude really thought adding controller to pc is a good idea

  • @jackyc311_
    @jackyc311_ Год назад

    thats exactly what it is (controller player)

  • @willcastellow8885
    @willcastellow8885 6 месяцев назад

    I have a hard time on controller

  • @DodiPete
    @DodiPete Год назад

    Aim assist does not assist me I want what y’all be talking about cause when I aim and someone is close or by it nothing changes

  • @lazylucid
    @lazylucid Год назад

    controller excels in aiming over pc in close range & mid ranger but long range pc beats it but still his point was valid

  • @xxyeetstickxx2249
    @xxyeetstickxx2249 Год назад

    GET RID OF CROSS PLATFORM IM TIRED OF HEARING PROS COMPLAIN ABOUT AIM ASSIST. AIM ASSIST HAS EXISTED LONG BEFORE CROSS PLATFORM AND APEX BUT IT ALL OF A SUDDEN IS BECOMING A PROBLEM???

  • @iSayUhhhhh
    @iSayUhhhhh Год назад

    I’d say the biggest downside to playing with controller is the looting 🥲

  • @Sayad6
    @Sayad6 Год назад

    Pro player always complain from day 1 like what they really want everything bothers them

  • @n44ck
    @n44ck 3 месяца назад

    Can we just fucking quit this debate, its been far too long now, and besides that, if you think controllers op (which it is) then buy a fucking controller for 60 bucks

    • @ryan-li1pw
      @ryan-li1pw Месяц назад

      thats such a terrible argument telling people to switch to controller since its op. roller is boring af, normal people arent gonna switch inputs just to get some more wins. if you do that u arent even playing for fun just to win lmao

  • @fritosgaming
    @fritosgaming Год назад

    Controller vs mkb is why this game is dying

  • @powerups5796
    @powerups5796 Год назад

    Same here I think what he's saying is right

  • @bitinggoat6873
    @bitinggoat6873 Год назад

    He saying a whole lot of nothin

  • @zapdos00
    @zapdos00 Год назад

    Mnk = movements and controller = aim

  • @adxmsmxth8697
    @adxmsmxth8697 Год назад

    But mnk can beam me across the map with a 4x havoc? There’s still a ton of recoil even tho we have aim assist this ain’t like cod

  • @nateh2665
    @nateh2665 Год назад

    Mnk is a legit cheat. But then again everyone is mnk vs mnk so it balances in game

    • @kindajacked5154
      @kindajacked5154 Год назад

      Bruh💀 controller is a legit cheat, the game does 40%-60% of the aiming for us lmaoo. Mnk is raw input, takes 100% skill
      Not hating I play controller, just being realistic

  • @ISTBrucie
    @ISTBrucie Год назад +4

    I guess it’s time to put m&k players in their own lobbies. Can m&k move around while looting? Controller can’t. Can m&k tap strafe? Controller can’t. Can m&k aim with their arm not their thumb? Controller can’t. It’s time to separate the 2

    • @saitamafps4528
      @saitamafps4528 Год назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it was separated but they made crossplay

    • @WsG82
      @WsG82 Год назад +1

      Would be nice to stop getting aimbot assisted while on kbm

    • @ILootStandingStill
      @ILootStandingStill Год назад

      @@saitamafps4528 anyone can plug a controller into their pc, it was never separated.

    • @bigbutt5647
      @bigbutt5647 Год назад

      U can tap strafe on roller ur coping hard

    • @jeremyg2236
      @jeremyg2236 Год назад

      @@ILootStandingStill how to setting the AA then? Heard PC has 0.4 while console has 0.6

  • @WhosMathew
    @WhosMathew Год назад

    Stop denying it you susmonsters.

  • @kiLo-_-7
    @kiLo-_-7 Год назад +1

    I agree, I think roller is strongest in comp and people need to stop complaining about roller in pubs

  • @TUUBBS
    @TUUBBS Год назад

    Aim assist is not strong hahaha but my man can tap strafe mid air or just tap strafe in general and have macros. I don’t get it you’re hella good timmy but yet complain about something that ain’t even a real issue in the game. Seems to me MnK players just want all the advantages going up against a controller player. SMH

  • @hurri9633
    @hurri9633 Год назад

    strongest thing is controller on pc that shit is nuts u can have all the movement on pc and also have aim assist best of 2 worlds

  • @joseocampo3730
    @joseocampo3730 Год назад +3

    I play on Xbox and my boy plays on pc and I can say that mnk players have crazy aim and movement so stop complaining

    • @LlamaDude318
      @LlamaDude318 Год назад +1

      He’s not complaining, he’s saying a truth. As a console player i can agree aa is overly strong in this game

    • @tbut155
      @tbut155 Год назад

      Long range fights are much easier on MnK

    • @klobite
      @klobite Год назад +2

      @@tbut155 you shouldn't die from long range, only bad positioning will get you beamed

    • @saitamafps4528
      @saitamafps4528 Год назад

      @@klobite when the whole lobby focus you with a freaking charge rifle it's hard to get good position lol xD happens to me every time in ranket games

    • @klobite
      @klobite Год назад

      @@saitamafps4528 it gets really annoying

  • @Pumiipvp
    @Pumiipvp Год назад

    The aim assist is fine. Tho controller and MK should never be in a competative lobby ever, that goes for ranked aswell. Atleast not as long as you have any kind of assist on controllers. Shows very little competative integrity.

  • @fragbuwa8144
    @fragbuwa8144 Год назад

    Compared to other games apex has not that strong aim assist I think. If u play battlefield after apex u know what I mean

  • @sarahvance9209
    @sarahvance9209 Год назад

    Dude aim assist is horse shit, I hate hearing pc players complain about it.

  • @user-pb8ls9in2d
    @user-pb8ls9in2d 6 месяцев назад

    timmy let the children play on consoles with their controllers and stay broke on xbox live and let the smart people who are willing to do anlittle reasearch and build their own pc for the same money play with the pros

    • @ryan-li1pw
      @ryan-li1pw Месяц назад

      most pc players are on controller too, including the pros lol

  • @billybob-fw3vr
    @billybob-fw3vr 3 месяца назад

    Mnk movement against controllers soft aimbot

  • @yo_itzant3386
    @yo_itzant3386 Год назад

    He’s right