iitzTimmy's Thoughts On Controller vs MnK Debate! - Apex Legends
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I freaking love Timmy. Most level headed and logical player and speaks very kindly
"Logical" -> says controller is hard --> top mnk player beats best roller players.. on roller. "Hard"
Nice doesn't equal right and he's just a politically neutral actor
@@rhythimrt9970 what is your statement? Top players are able to beat other top players, who would have thought. Roller isn‘t even good when you don‘t know how to use it and that‘s why timmy said it‘s broken in competitive.
@@bobtherobber420 Nah timmy was saying "Controller is hard and takes skill"
The point was the top MnK player picked up a controller randomly and rolled the best controller players worldwide. This basically proves that controller requires no reflexes or skill
The controller skill cieling is barely a skill cieling at all because even the top MnK player can reach it in a few days
@@rhyvehr the skill ceiling is definitely lower but you can‘t say that it would take no skill. Just because a skilled player is also skilled on another input it doesn‘t mean that it‘d take no skill.
@@bobtherobber420 Not the point I was making is that Timmy was acting like it's hard. It's not hard, any good player can pick it up and destroy enemies.
The only skill involved in controller play is positioning yourself for success, while MnK involves about 10 times the amount of reflexes and mental work because you're not only focusing on positioning for success, you're focusing on your aim and you can't bank on aim assist to save your ass in a lot of situations. You have to use hard hand-eye coordination the entire time and don't have inherent recoil smoothing/perfect tracking.
Especially with the sad state of apex where controller is so much stronger than MnK, it's sad that players with half the physical reflexes and skill can win tournaments against players who are trying substantially harder then them, and that's just a fact.
At this point I don't care which one is harder cuz the hardest part about apex is developers not fixing audio, no hit regs or skill base match making
And dropped on their head packers uh i mean strike packers
Nahh Controller Trumps No audio
@@atorius so not being able to hear enemies in a game where audio is pretty important isn't a problem because rollers? Is that what you're saying
@@atoriuswell if you take away even half sim assist you’ll lose 50% player base I could bet my life so I wouldn’t if I was you. Just enjoy apex while it’s still going
Controller for shooting
PC for movement
Yeah because u can't improve your aim on pc and overwhelm aim assist....
@@saitamafps4528 take the feelings out of it bro. close to medium range controller dominates
@@UhnknownX it depends on who js playing on pc my aim is better then aim assist
@@saitamafps4528 keep lying to yourself bro, AA has auto rotation which helps a good controller player achieve near PERFECT tracking in close range fights, while mnk has HUMAN REACTION TIMES, so anytime someone strafes a different direction you literally HAVE TO give it a split second before you realize and adjust your aim. But yea you work on those aim trainers and lmk when you can consistently one clip every like an average controller player can
Aa is at .4 on pc btw and they did a test where when you have AA at 100% as opposed to 40% it’s a literal AIMBOT. You don’t need any input on either stick and it completely follows opponents perfectly. So .4 aim assist is quite literally a soft aimbot given to controller players and you think aim training is gonna help you “overwhelm” aim assist. You’re a genius
I like how he’s just casually playing with Hal
He's just as big as Hal
? Hes as famous as hall lol
@@Kn9SweetyNiklas yea......
Bros walking on thin ice with his words 🤣🤣🤣
That's what you do when you don't want to say what you're actually thinking. He's lying
@@Swankman33what????
Am i just that ass? Cuz i don’t feel the aim assist on console 😂
Linear and put your sensitivity right down it’s there!
I think most people just misunderstand what aim assist does, it doesn’t auto aim but rather slows down your aim when aiming at an enemy making it easier to stay on target.
It's likely you're trying too hard. The aim assist is powerful when abused correctly. Use it like a cod quick scope.
Not so long ago I tried MnK for the first time after playing ps4 for 2 straight years and it was sooo much easier to aim and move.
1. If you’re on old gen console you may not actually have it in a lot of fights due to your FPS dropping to literally as low as 38 sometimes. This not only causes aim assist to not be present but also causes extreme inconsistencies in aim, reaction time, etc.
2. Make sure you’re on console aim assist in your settings instead of the PC aim assist ( you have the option for 0.6 or 0.4 aim assist when playing on console)
3. Delete all old data off your consoles hard drive (games, photos, recordings, etc) anything not being used.
4. The BIGGEST if not most useful tip I can give you, coming from an ex console player who analyzes his gameplay like a fucking psychopath; pay attention and see if you’re flinching when playing. Make yourself sit still, make your hands calmer if you gotta move your head while playing. Me , my brother, and brother in law all used to move like crazy while playing, even our hands. The calmer the hands the easier to aim on roller AND MNK.
Sorry for ranting but I just wanted to help you because I been there and done that lol. Also, HIGHLY recommend getting a 120hz+ monitor with a ps5/Xbox one X OR a PC.
The difference is like watching free bootleg movies in shitty quality VS Watching movies in 4k with 3d glasses on in a surround sound theatre.
Console is harder than PC with controller because the refresh rate And fps. 60fps/Hz is so much slower than 120+fps/Hz.
"Controller is easier"
"Would i use controller, absolutely not."
Cause he enjoys playing on it more. I’m the same I played cod on controller for like 10 years then switched to pc and won’t go back cause it’s just more fun to play but just not as good
it’s about preference at the end of the day. some people don’t like the bot like movement you have with controller. etc
After playing r5reloaded flowstate target switching. It's easier to get .65 accuracy and above on roller. .6 on kbm is pretty hard but doable. The difficult part is how active your brain has to be on kbm vs roller. Roller you just think less and still get higher accuracy
Very very well said thank u
He should run for office 😂
i play on controller and have for a while now and my aim is mid asf😭 i peaked at some point and can’t improve. i played on m&k once at my friends house and recoil was so much easier to control i wasn’t doing half bad for my first game on m&k
well that settles it guys! ally is mid asf on both inputs guess we should allow ai to do 40% of the work for more than half of our player base, completely tank our competitive integrity of the entire pro league, ruin nearly fifty existing mnk pros' careers and not mention it. great job EA. justify ruining mnk pros career prospects by not wanting to take an opportunity away from a 16 year old in high school thats next biggest talent other than roller is picking his nose
@@PasstheA1 i’m not asking for anything i just thought it was funny how i suck w a stick but am just as good my first try on mnk😭 are you good?
@@allys103 so essentially you suck on both inputs?
@@PasstheA1 i guess so. my issue anyways
You either grow up playing on a console or playing on a computer... Either way, it's what you're used to. Of course the other is going to seem more difficult
or you grow up playing console and switch to PC and realize that the 2 inputs should not compete against each other
🧢
@@cjxdfacts 💯
@@cjxd factual statement
@@cjxd I’ll always say it. We asked for cross platform between Xbox and PlayStation, I never had a convo back then where we were like “damn I wish we could play with the PC guys”
Roller players: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that!" 🙉🤡
Pretend they didn’t hear what lol ? Timmy saying controller is the best thing for competitive apex but he’ll never switch to it bc it’s not good but it will dominate competitive bc it’s good. None of what he said was clear lol, just contradictory.
@@jeorgeac7831🤡
@@atorius “🤡” -🤓
@@jeorgeac7831 Where did he say that controller is not good?? He said he thinks that it is challenging, but Aim Assist is very strong on Apex and its much harder for MnK players to aim. As to the reason why he would never switch is because Timmy has been playing MnK for years essentially since he was a kid so he is much more familiar with MnK than he is with a controller which is why he doesn't see himself switching. Plus he plays so many other games other than Apex like Valorant and Tarkov so it doesnt make sense for him to switch.
@@WubzZz-
Great job at killing your game
Incomparable bc of the input, especially console and pc
lol if controllers were super dominate then every pro would be playing controller. It’s funny how he didn’t mention all the advantages mnk has over controller.
tell him! u know it better!
alot of the pro league is switching to controller alot of top pro teams do a 2-1 spilt 2 roller 1 mnk
@@MikeGrau0hr yeah bc I actually play controller and he doesn’t.
Pay attention to what ppl do, not say.
He plays mnk so clearly he thinks that is the better input.
the delusion is so strong in this one, keep crying
I don't play this game, are the best players/pros using one more than the other? Or is it even? I know that in warzone the last few decent players who were still using keyboard have switched over to controller
At the end of the day. It’s more about what your comfortable with & enjoy daily. I tried controller after 5 years to see the apex Op Aim assist. It does have a lock but I’m no longer happy with how the look around feels I’d rather flick and float my aim than feel like I’m going in a limited circle. It doesn’t matter but each there own tbh. Controller or not someone with the same input is going to be better than you. Just keep it going & shoot lol
This guy should jump on console and tell me if you lock on lol these streamers are arguing about controller aim assist on pc. For like tournaments and shit like that
@@vividclips7592 console aa is higher lol
@@LlamaDude318 to my knowledge its exactly the same 0.6
@@JayGamesAndReacts pc is .4
@@LlamaDude318 I’ve got pc and console. Maybe it is maybe it isn’t? I just feel like aim assist on pc is op, but console aim assist is pretty standard. I come across pc players while on console and i get absolutely destroyed 😑
Mouse n key ain't that hard either once u get used to it. Also easier to tapstrafe, loot, snap your aim etc
take a year for most to get used to m&k wym its not hard
@@Icesweats 1 thumb > whole arm and hand
After you get over the carpel tunnel, yes
Tap strafe op on controller with the good Steam config and take less time to master, most ppl dont know controller can easily tapstrafe
@@Amistttt thumb + 40% aimbot > muh whole arm
There is still a massive skill gap on controllers. It isn't free knocks, and recoil can be a nightmare depending what settings you use.
True
That’s what people tend to overlook. To them we’re all the same, just walking turrets lol. But in reality there’s a HUGE difference between the top controller players and the random controller players I get as teammates every game.
@@ILootStandingStill facts. This rhetoric wasn't really big when I was brand new, and thank God because I was horrible and it would have been very disheartening to hear stuff like what is said about controller nowadays.
Btw, I recognize u lol I remembered
@@R3m. na, get good.
@@R3m. it was half troll, but if you’re consistently getting 1 clipped by brand new players I’d say it is partially a skill issue. I rarely ever get 1 clipped even by seasoned players.
ITT: bronze players who can't identify a neutral, fence sitting, politically safe, pr statement when they see it.
What I would say is that as long we all feel comfortable playing game is winning or loosing we losse sometimes we win 😅
The only take that I respect love Timmy.
An average pc player would shit on an average console player. Tell me I’m wrong
You’re wrong lol
@@onyxdotexe8934 yes, he is wrong. Above average mnk pc player, 65000 kills triple pred. Me? Masters controller bot, smoked him 10-0 💀
Mnk players struggle when it comes to strictly aiming, you don’t let them dance over your head with movement crack and stay one clipping they do not stand a chance
You are both evidently lower skilled unknowledgeable players. For example what’s your highest solo q rank, kills/dmg, kdr? Any knowledgable player is aware roller is winning that 9/10 times
A new console player will completely shit on a new m&k player
@@kindajacked5154correct, just really bad players or players that never played m&k will talk like that, if you master both inputs you will know that controller has the advantage, imperial and Gen are the proof
Plugged in a controller after reading Hal's post about how he will single handedly get controller nerfed for 4-3 linear no dead zone. I went into my first match and close range? I just had to aim in the general direction and it legit made me feel like I was cheating
So basically he just said that everything sucks about controller except the aim so movement and eveybting is is mnk so why is roller vs mnk a argument when the one that cries about aim assist is basically sayin that controller game style sucks compare to mnk
Bcz a guy who played 1k hours on apex mnk can EASILY die to someone with 10 hours game time in close range . Picked my controller after only using it for fifa and f1 and i was beaming close range
@@serenity8244 even genburten said it is OP asf, but they just won't accept that
Can you please use your brain before commenting? Or rewatch the video if you have comprehension issues
@@klobite They never will these deluded cringers
That's the fairest argument anybody has made. Everyone is hopping on the "Roller Op" bandwagon as if it doesn't have huge drawbacks of it's own, while MnK has nearly a dozen advantages over controller.
The difference is that AA is there to compensate for how cramped a controller is and how much you have to do to use it. MnK you can bind what ever you want to whatever button you want, with a desk length of room to aim. AA is situational. You lose it doing certain things, like shooting through windows or Bangalore smoke. AA doesn't activate in many situations where it would help, and tends to show up when you're not needing it. The amount of times I've been shooting and missing because there isn't any grab from the AA. Then I go to shoot near downed enemies playing knockdown shields, it's a critical moment and my AA just wants to grab onto downed players and messes up my flicks, or tracking.
cope you can’t flick or AA thru bang smokes kek refer to my other comments
@@187xen what?
Not a big factor but aA can get you killed sometimes. When you beam someone to one shot and then his teamste steps in. AA thinks you want to lock on to the full health dude instead of the one tap dude. Then they but end up double teaming you.
Controller: easy to master hard to get good at
Mnk: hard to master easy to get good at
Played controller most of my life and I’m barely switching over to MnK and there’s no comparison, the amount of control you have is night and day. Controller is not better guys 😂☠️
Mnk might have more control, but that doesnt stop 50% of people that use it from missing more than half their mags 😂 it feels better but tbh most people really cant use mnk to a high potential which is why most the people in this game run roller. They dont need to actually practice
@@triyo1089 yeah, I think controller is easier to pick up and play vs MnK. Atm my biggest issue with MnK is movement believe it or not. My aim is pretty good considering I’m still new. Besides that I think if you put the best controller player vs best MnK player the MnK player is winning.
@@The1neWhoKnockz considering 9/10 of the top fraggers in ALGS are roller thats kind of already been proven that roller dominates at the highest level.
Main reason why i dont like roller though is movement, i beam hard on both, even at distance with roller beaming isnt hard, and i def feel a strong advantage in close quarters but i just dont like the roller movement at all. I like being able to super glide, tap strafe, and super jump off zips. Could be just bc ive been hard stuck mnk since 2018 though. I just move a lot better and fluid on mnk now a days, but ive been playing more roller on an alt account trying to work my way up ranked with it and even after just a week roller just feels like easy mode on a hot drop or when you get in close. Already not an issue to beam at 50-75m with rifles and a 3x’s on roller and be as consistent on roller (after not even 200 games) as i am after almost 2000 games on mnk Aim wise.
Entire meta is based around roller strengths with it being hyper-aggressive and smg/g7 meta. Just crack with a g7 then gain ground snd run a car and thats pretty much all you need to abuse AA.
And thats why most people use roller, bc the skill gap is so much smaller you see much steeper improvements at a faster rate. With minimal effort tbh, bc mnk does take a lot more work to actually be good and consistent with.
I will say mnk is much more addicting though, demolishing someone with raw input and nothing helping you just feels better lol
@@triyo1089 yeah I’m falling in love with MnK slowly but surely. It’s tough but the skill ceiling for MnK is much higher than controller imo. Can’t wait to start closing the gap on my controller skill with MnK.
Don't forget also controller players have like half the techs that mnk do
Hes right. Aim and recoil control takes practice on Controller but the movement is the hard part now that's what's hard
Litterly picked a roller for the second time in apex and one clipping purple shields
Let me guess u were close to them
@@_bored2death let me guess youve never played on kbm
I had play both controller and keyboard/Mouse and I prefer 100 times keyboard is hugely better and I'm happy aim assist exist cause your sacrificing alot of movement for aim to see good people doing crazy stuff with controller doesn't means that all of them are like it majority moves likes npc.
When people talk about MnK vs controller . They should always say controllers on PC and steam settings are what's op . But console controller is not the same as PC controller settings. Also those mod controllers.
All those things should be considered when they compare the 2 . They say best players are on controllers but that's not true. Cause I'm sure mnk players are better players then console controller players. But PC controller is better then mnk .
irrellevant. console double aa.
Crossplay PC- Consol should be Off, this is good idea
Ive okayed both and its easier to beam at a distance on pc controller only dominates up close
M&K wins in every other aspect, but controller rules in those close range fights, M&K can compete but its harder
My man spitting some facts
I'm straight up contemplating going mnk just because no stick drift EVER
Do it.
Stick drift gives more aa lol, I make sure to keep it on
So controller is better and dominant, but you won't use controller. Nice
No it's not wtf 🤣🤣🤣
@@saitamafps4528 said it was dominant for competitive and aiming
@@bullymaguire4295 nah it was never be dominant shooters are made for m&k
hard copium, for sure he should drop the movement he’s trained for years to beam a bit better bc AA is disgusting op on roller
@@187xen hold my smoke I'm Bangalore main 🤣🤣🤣
Me playing on high sens ALCS:
What aim assist
I think on pc with steam deck its just controller which is to op i mean most people said tap strafe was only mnk but no!
Bruh Aiming on pc Isn't hard at all, aim assist is all controller have to be even decent in combat tbh.
Majority of the people in these comments crying like they run into Pred/Master controller players almost everyday. The band wagon is already full y'all need to chill 🤣
No. Don't agree.
now all the roller players can shut up xD
Mnk is better st movement and rollers are better at aim but that's about it, It takes the same amount of time to get used to
Bruh they are not better u can adapt at the game and overwhelm the AA and also AA it's not that OP it's bullshit, when u play on roller u have to move like a freaking robot
@@saitamafps4528 ok first of all you proved my point second I've played mnk for the same amount of time that I've played roller (almost 17 yrs) I didn't say one was better than the other so slow down cowboy
@@saitamafps4528 and about that not everyone is a tap strafing demons. Also not everyone just use tap strafe in the fight wtf yall get aa in every fight. If there is one option between aimbot and ability to just jump left / right what are you going to pick
My guy said it's hard
I think controller has easier to adapt to settings and aim assist is definitely an advantage, but I still think mnk ha sa much higher skill ceiling.
If controller is better why not everyone is predator or at least master in console lmao
Aim assist is strong for up to 30 yards, then it gets hard to control. Just tired of people crying about the input that is designed for video games because they want to use an input made to send emails. But Timmy is the only honest big streamer who will say controller needs aa because of the lack of control from a stick. Mnk still has way more advantages then a controller throughout the game if you take away controller one advantage
The difference is one is all manual input, the other is computer assisted input.
The argument is that just because you choose a certain peripheral, you shouldn’t get artificial support. I know dudes who have insane aim with aim assist turned off. I’ll fully acknowledge that if they kill me when we are 1v1ing they were just better that round.
My issue is when my controller friend who has maybe 300 hours can hit a one clip on a player who’s tap strafing and wall bouncing around, solely because aim assist. Most MnK players still can’t track crazy movement even with 1000 hours logged, but someone with computer assistance and a controller can.
@@RiceCubeTech nah aim assist slows down aim when around a target. Your argument that no skill controller players can track mnk players as the bounce and tap strafe all around is a lie. Aim assist literally makes tracking extremely fast movement extremely hard to track, especially on classic response. Aim assist is OP up to about 30-40 yards but after that controlling recoil is more on the player. But this argument will never end because people gotta complain about why they die. In the end control players have the advantage on aim up close, every single other aspect of the game mnk is superior. Mnk is for emails!!!
@@steele5048 bruh do you not know the difference between sim slowdown and rotational aim assist? Rotational aim assist when cranked up to 1.0 values literally fully tracks moving targets with zero player input. At .6 it’s 60 percent as strong. Period. That’s how apex rotational assist works.
Home Computer FPS games have been using MnK input since their conception. Atari ST was MnK. False dichotomy.
@@RiceCubeTechu have aim assist to just tuned down u know that right.
After switching to controller for 1 day after not using one in 5 years I can honestly say yes aim assist is fucking broken. I am UNINTENTIONALLY 1 clipping everyone I see. It is hard to get back in the grove of controller and I also have a like a bootleg ps4 controller and the sticks are washed but it’s still crazy that I just pull the trigger down and clip someone. Like if I were to stick to controller full time I would. However, I am not gana switch full time. Because MNK has a much higher skill gap and as someone who is very competitive I would rather focus my time on getting better mechanically then just letting the controller do 50% of the work for me. Also, I play other games that are MNK only. Idk I’ve always understood why aim assist is a thing ofc but it seems a little too dominate at the moment especially since it’s SMG meta rn
Yeah try telling that to a controller player that isn’t completely delusional and will agree that it’s absolutely broken, same boat here been spamming 60hz on xbox s for quite a while and beaming has never been easier (like you said to the point it’s unintentional sometimes, lvl 35 3.05kda and I got 19kills as my best, pc being 13kills WITH YEARS of experience in shooters) these people love speaking out of their ahh bc they feel inferior, can tell you that as a long time MNK with controller friends, always looking at advantages to blame when they aren’t there, ridiculous ppl
I’m d2 on PC and a controller player & rarely actually one clip someone.. aim assist really isn’t that broken
@@Zvxny666 I mean idk what to tell you im literally just unintentionally 1 clipping people constantly and still am lol dont wana be that guy but might be a skill issue and im not trying to be rude
Mouse and keyboard movements is so much better and aim assist only helps at close to mid range and jitter aiming is damn near impossible not to mention you can only map so many buttons on controller
i get what hes saying, but the the same rule applies to mnk, if you play it a lot its ez
Well timmy was 4sure thinking
No emotional damage
Mnk always beats controller so he clearly is just saying what he is being told to say . They literally have scripts and a bunch of other shit that controller players don’t have so I’m gonna be the one to call cap 🧢
Aim assist sucks 4 people learnt to use the control back in the day it makes my game harder because I'm used to doing to work not the game
ive played both for a long time and ny aim better on mouse than controller and ive played roller longer than mouse so idkk
Im sorry but i was playing minecraft on the ps3 when i was 4 and then i have played the ps4 ever since i am just too used to controller that i cant switch without years of training im sorry but i guess imma skip cs valorant and Yes sadly tf2 until i feel motivated to learn so thats why i always will choose controller not because of which is better (altough aim assist feels amazing) i am just too stuck in my ways
Yeah but pc can aim with their entire hand and not just their thumb. So i feel in that aspect along with movement pc has an advantage
controller is better close range, and ok mid range but loses to K&M in precision and especially long range encounters
Nothing he said even makes sense
I switched to mnk from controller up close roller is strong but that’s it every other situation mnk is on top . And to be fair if you have movement too on mnk aim assist kinda sucks or if you use Bangalore there’s no aim assist. I’ve found aiming on mnk so much easier only catch was getting used to close range but after tht it’s not even close
You don't play mnk with that opinion lmfao. I'm gm with hitscan in ow2, imm3 peak in valorant, but plat controller players will consistently beat me in close to mid range fights in apex.
Mnk is miles harder than controller and will never beat it in aim assists current state
Sounds like u need movement 🤷🏾♂️
@@FauxVon movement doesn't do anything versus aim assist, plus I know every mnk movement tech...
how bro, name a controller player actively sliding around like timmy and faide, you just cant move the same on xbox and it kind of taints the experience
LOL it’s a shooter game not a movement game at it’s core, movement players are movement players and they’re only advantaged bc MNK is more fluid and consistent in terms of moving around properly, if pros and i mean PROS NOT YOU, would care more ab fancy schmovement they would remain on mnk, but it’s not that kind of game, the AA offered by roller literally halves TTK and that in A SHOOTER GAME (not movement) literally changes the entire dynamic, stop delusion kek
Controllers better for close range. That's where controller shines and m and k shines mid to Long range .
All the MK players talking trash on rollers, switch. If it’s really better then switch. You’re not gonna? Alright then stfu
Crazy cause controller went from .6 to .4 aa. I think it’s just controllers catchin up.
Please don’t call them rollers, thats very cringe
My only problem is this, sure, I'll give it you, it's easier to aim on controller but it's easier to move on pc. Where is all the outcry to get rid of countless movement techs that make it unfair? It's not there because controller players aren't whiny crybabies lol.
Streamers have to have something to whine ab
And Low skill players always fail to understand, pretty common
Cap asf. If that was so true then all the people making money from being good at FPS would use a controller. Same reason they all use the best mouse, best keyboard, best chair, best PC specs, best EVERYTHING yet they refuse to use what is the "best" thing to aim with? Big sike, its just copium from MnK players when they dookied on by a console player they wanna cry about AA even though 9/10 times they beam console players in 3 seconds from 50yards away.
“Would you use a controller if money was on the line?”
Timmy: “Nope. But only because it sucks in every way. Except one.”
I just got ddos-ed on console for the first time last week after playing for 3 years, and we’re still on this?!
Aim is sacred on FPS game, aim assist just legal soft aimbots. i prefer separate lobby by input to prevent crying loser on both side controler and mnk also to eliminate excuses like "i feel comfortable" bullsht
I'd have to disagree mnk has better aim over all at all distances and they have more capabilities to do everything tap strafe quick adjustments and faster reactions. Controller literally only has aim assist that's it and it's only good at a 15m range at best where as mnk can laser way past that
@@LessSkilled Let it die mate these ccks will look for everything to delude themselves with and keep their aimbot on
For context the aim assist is bumped up when you go into pc lobbies to help them out but when you play in console it’s not as strong
For context you are factually wrong. Console is .6 AA , pc is .4 :)
@@WsG82 and why would people on pc use controller?
@@727pog Because it's broken ...
@@WsG82 yes that's why Actually the problem here is probably because some dude really thought adding controller to pc is a good idea
thats exactly what it is (controller player)
I have a hard time on controller
Aim assist does not assist me I want what y’all be talking about cause when I aim and someone is close or by it nothing changes
controller excels in aiming over pc in close range & mid ranger but long range pc beats it but still his point was valid
GET RID OF CROSS PLATFORM IM TIRED OF HEARING PROS COMPLAIN ABOUT AIM ASSIST. AIM ASSIST HAS EXISTED LONG BEFORE CROSS PLATFORM AND APEX BUT IT ALL OF A SUDDEN IS BECOMING A PROBLEM???
I’d say the biggest downside to playing with controller is the looting 🥲
Pro player always complain from day 1 like what they really want everything bothers them
Can we just fucking quit this debate, its been far too long now, and besides that, if you think controllers op (which it is) then buy a fucking controller for 60 bucks
thats such a terrible argument telling people to switch to controller since its op. roller is boring af, normal people arent gonna switch inputs just to get some more wins. if you do that u arent even playing for fun just to win lmao
Controller vs mkb is why this game is dying
Same here I think what he's saying is right
He saying a whole lot of nothin
Mnk = movements and controller = aim
But mnk can beam me across the map with a 4x havoc? There’s still a ton of recoil even tho we have aim assist this ain’t like cod
Mnk is a legit cheat. But then again everyone is mnk vs mnk so it balances in game
Bruh💀 controller is a legit cheat, the game does 40%-60% of the aiming for us lmaoo. Mnk is raw input, takes 100% skill
Not hating I play controller, just being realistic
I guess it’s time to put m&k players in their own lobbies. Can m&k move around while looting? Controller can’t. Can m&k tap strafe? Controller can’t. Can m&k aim with their arm not their thumb? Controller can’t. It’s time to separate the 2
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it was separated but they made crossplay
Would be nice to stop getting aimbot assisted while on kbm
@@saitamafps4528 anyone can plug a controller into their pc, it was never separated.
U can tap strafe on roller ur coping hard
@@ILootStandingStill how to setting the AA then? Heard PC has 0.4 while console has 0.6
Stop denying it you susmonsters.
I agree, I think roller is strongest in comp and people need to stop complaining about roller in pubs
U gotta be a console player
Aim assist is not strong hahaha but my man can tap strafe mid air or just tap strafe in general and have macros. I don’t get it you’re hella good timmy but yet complain about something that ain’t even a real issue in the game. Seems to me MnK players just want all the advantages going up against a controller player. SMH
strongest thing is controller on pc that shit is nuts u can have all the movement on pc and also have aim assist best of 2 worlds
I play on Xbox and my boy plays on pc and I can say that mnk players have crazy aim and movement so stop complaining
He’s not complaining, he’s saying a truth. As a console player i can agree aa is overly strong in this game
Long range fights are much easier on MnK
@@tbut155 you shouldn't die from long range, only bad positioning will get you beamed
@@klobite when the whole lobby focus you with a freaking charge rifle it's hard to get good position lol xD happens to me every time in ranket games
@@saitamafps4528 it gets really annoying
The aim assist is fine. Tho controller and MK should never be in a competative lobby ever, that goes for ranked aswell. Atleast not as long as you have any kind of assist on controllers. Shows very little competative integrity.
Compared to other games apex has not that strong aim assist I think. If u play battlefield after apex u know what I mean
Dude aim assist is horse shit, I hate hearing pc players complain about it.
timmy let the children play on consoles with their controllers and stay broke on xbox live and let the smart people who are willing to do anlittle reasearch and build their own pc for the same money play with the pros
most pc players are on controller too, including the pros lol
Mnk movement against controllers soft aimbot
He’s right