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@@Ricky-1 so do a lot of mumble rappers bs most artists stick to the same message and sound eminem is kinda getting to that “meh” category sure he’s a beast with his word play but most of his songs have no replay ability anymore for me I can listen to nf thru and thru went to three shows so far and will be going to a fourth helped me out of one of the worst mental states I’ve ever had in my life
@Neezy I disagree with him on the video being bad because has good points near the end but I feel like a lot of his points in the beginning apply to rappers that he likes too so it kind of takes value away from his opinion because it's not a true reason unless he's being hypocritical. Most rappers in general aren't experimental and try to reinvent themselves and just keep doing what works for them and that tends to give them a signature style. He could have just said, "I don't like his style" and it would be more convincing if that makes sense.
@derp derpin yeah no sht every artist sounds like them self lol what are you even saying?? It’s possible to sound like yourself and also not make the same song over and over again
He has a line on Outcast: "same style but the songs are better." I think he's continuing to delve into his signature style, and he's getting better at it. Some songs definitely sound similar to me, but I generally like the sound so it's not a problem (it really struck me that Lost and Paid My Dues sound veeeery similar though, from the beat to the structure of the song). His hooks have gotten a loooot better recently though imo. Also the dude single handedly got me into the genre of hip-hop so always mad respect to him for that, even if I'm not digging the current music. Overall I liked the mixtape better than the Search album. But hey, that's just my opinion!
Honestly I hope he doesn’t continue to remake the same songs like he does now. Just imagine 5 years done the line...4-5 more albums that just sound like revisions of The Search
I thought this was an April fools joke and it would be the Tom MacDonald video but you were 2 steps ahead of me and indirectly fooled me. Smart one mate.
I can‘t stand NF‘s music, but i‘m really surprised by how respectful his fans are in the comments. Shoutout to his fanbase for not feeling attacked by constructive criticism unlike most others would. (Eminem, J. Cole, Juice...)
I think its the fact that most people that like NFs music are not offended persay but dont really want to say much because one its on april 1st but also hes not super wrong about the points he made but also Nfs music helps alot of people like his song Just like You is a strong song for some people
The thing is those fan bases can be respectful. Its just that most of the time people aren't giving constructive criticism or are respectful towards them. Its like a self fulfilling prophecy.
Honestly you can’t expect much variety from the Search and Clouds, mainly due to one being an album and the other a mixtape. The majority of the songs on Clouds are songs that didn’t make it on the Search.
I'm a big NF fan but I respect what u r saying. I personally think that you either are a big fan of him or you straight up don't like him, you can't just enjoy some of his songs. I have gotten used to the repetitiveness on some tracks and it doesn't annoy me while I don't see the em similarities so strongly
Usually I would understand the kind of mindset of "you can't just like a few songs from him" but in this case he literally said in the video himself that he doesn't dislike all of his music/thinks it's bad but that he actually likes some NF songs and thinks that they're good.
I clicked on this video expecting to hate it because I am a huge NF fan but, honestly with how respectful you were and how well you explained your opinion I respect it.
I think i speak for every NF fan when i say that we hate the "NF sounds like Eminem" argument but as you said thats not the big issue. I personall love his music and the way he writes his lyric, its like hes speaken for me with better words but i can understand when people get tired of him taking up the same topics over and over again. One reason why i love his music aswell is his voice, like how he uses it and shows agression and the way he flows.
i first heard NF as an angry 16 year old on my way to school. his music at the time was just relatable to me. but as i got older i just stopped returning to his music. ive heard everything he's released and there's only a handful of songs i return to. I personally agree with everything you said
His music is kinda made for people in a specific life situation/ age group. I like music for all ages (except maybe children songs lol) i dont personally relate with a lot of painful messages but i enjoy actual lyrics and not the same things weve heard for 30 years
Bruh i was in a psych ward 3 times for severe depression, and literally all the white (not racist just being real) 16-17 year olds would play this man's songs and mumble along like it was the best thing they'd heard.
I'm a fan of nf music, I'll accept this. But i don't understand why people say it's only the whites that listen to nf, I'm black and i listen to NF some people are just funny.😹
Vibe, swag, soul...call it how you want, but all of this has always been an integral part of hip-hop. NF has absolutely 0. First time I heard one of his songs, I thought it was a parody.
I’m a huge NF fan and your opinion is highly respectable. You just said your opinion and did it in a very respectful way. Love how you said “He’s not for me, but that’s okay.” This is so true, because somethings are just not for everyone.
@@LLJullian he talks honestly about his life, some of his stuff is relatable, i like his many flows, the fact he can rap and sing it goes on. Personally im more interested in listen to what someone has to say and their life. I also love grime music and drill hahah its like a healthy mix of different rappers and sub genres. Its not just nf. I dont like tom macdonald btw. Feel like i should put that out there haha. What do you like?
@@LLJullian CDTV didn’t say he can’t listen to it, he admitted to liking some songs. Some other details as well, but he still never said he CAN’T. Somethings are just not for everyone.
I was scared to watch this for a long time because I love both NF and your videos, but I seriously respect your opinion and that you’re not bashing NF, just giving your opinion. I can understand all this
I hate how I already judged you by just reading the title then when I started watching I realized you have points of reason and making it understandable👌
Im a fan of NF's music, have been since Therapy but trust me man literally every point on here (except songwriting to an extent) is true. The lack of variety in his music makes me burn out on his music extremely fast, with Clouds just releasing the only tracks i listen to are Drifting and Story. I only really listen to tracks from Therapy Session and The Search (his 2 best albums by a mile). I feel like when NF has a certain topic to focus on he really excels, whereas if hes just writing about being sad in general its very hit or miss. For example, Nate is one of my fav NF tracks and u can tell he had a concept in mind and executed it very well imo (same for story and many others). Whereas Thinking in the same album its just very boring to listen to cos he kinda just says alot but says nothing at the same time.
Yeah Nate is a great song and he tells the story well, some other songs though seem like they don’t have as much of a basis or a story and are just about general sadness and not as good imo
True, for me Drifting, Dream, Just like You, I Miss the Days, Nate, Returns, and When I Grow Up are the ones I’ll listen to on replay but the others I might listen once or twice and then stop.
While his music is very similar across albums, I struggle to think of another artist with a similar style who can pull off the dramatic and cinematic type beats over and over successfully. I think NF has carved out a sound that only he has. Definitely a sound and style you either love and can’t get enough of, or don’t like and get bored quickly of.
It's because most other critque videos are disrespectful and mostly just compare NF to other hip hop rappers like DaBaby and others like that, that have completely different styles from NF.
Nf about to make a song about you now lmao "I get it my music isnt for everybody but at least have the decency to leave me out of your RUclips discography" 💀
"But at least have the decency in you To leave me alone, when you freaks see me out In the streets when I'm eating or feeding my daughter To not come and speak to me" i see u
Lmao! Aye creds on that smooth transition into the promo 😂😂. And respectfully I disagree with your take on NF's music, but I see where you're coming from.
As an NF fan who had grown out of the getting mad when people don’t like him thing a long time ago I find it funny to watch people review him negatively and try to keep assuring them that it’s okay to not all like the same person
I don’t blame him for continuing to reiterate that not everyone has to dig the same artist. Especially with someone like nf who almost had a cult fan base lol. Don’t wanna piss them off 🙏😂
@@knightvisuals6238 imagine, *YOU* telling ME what my own experience I had with an artists fan base is like. Thanks for telling me what I actually have experienced 😒😂
As a massive NF fan, who owns each of his albums, I have a lot of respect for your takes. I appreciate a different perspective and I can admit that most of these critiques were accurate. I enjoy NF, his music never lets me down, but he's definitely an acquired taste which you do not need to acquire. 🃏♥️♣️♦️♠️
used to be a HUGE NF fan back when perception dropped up until a few months after the search (which i loved at the time), but i’ve grown out of that dark place in my life. not saying it was a dark place BECAUSE of NF, but I was listening to NF because his music is so therapeutic if you’re struggling mentally. He gave me a lot of peace in my painful nights and i’ll forever appreciate that, but I just don’t care to listen to him anymore now that I feel better and have found other therapeutic artists like Kid Cudi and Mac Miller, who i just greatly prefer. Still bought the clouds CD to support tho even tho i only listened to it a whole 1 time ever lol
Yeah I think that’s the whole thing why people don’t like nf. Only the people who are in a deep hole can relate to his music. Once they have gotten out of that hole it’s kinda like nf helped you get back up but now it’s time to move on.
Clever idea uploading this today (on April Fools) to avoid most of the backlash from angry fans who don't understand what an opinion is. Ps. I'm a HUGE NF fan
Actually I see the opposite happening. There's a bunch of toxic NF haters under every comment saying NF is trash like anyone even cares about their opinion
@@hbkavnish exactly. Everyone’s talking about his toxic fans, but we don’t do anything. We support him, but we aren’t jerks to everyone else unlike them
Fans will always be unlikeable and stan over their idol. I ignore the fans amd listen to his music. I really do love his songs. They are deep and are meaningful. They have helped me a lot
You had the best argument. Most people are just: "He's a sad white boy," or "He doesn't curse," and the "Sounds like eminem" thing is always there. But, you managed to support your argument. I disagree with it, NF is my favorite, but that's okay. Good job supporting your opinion.
I didn’t know Tom McDonald cut his hair and changed his album title to clouds. I could’ve sworn this should be the gravestones review. Edit: bro I regret making this joke
Austin Stone nothing to do with Tom McDonald being better than nf. I literally said in my first comment that I could’ve sworn this should be the gravestones review. So don’t worry. Anyone who thinks Tom McDonald is better then anyone has a fucking mental tumor.
NF is just diet Eminem. everything NF does is the same shit Eminem does, but watered down. like not even just sound-wise, (though he really does rip off Eminem's flows and voice... but not his lyrics, because Eminem is actually good at writing lyrics, even if they're stupid, they're still multi-syllabic and complex, and his beats don't all sound the same... even if some of them aren't very good...) he's just copying Eminem in every way possible. he named himself the same way Eminem did (it's just his initials, but to not be like Eminem, he didn't spell it like Eneff, or something like that) his whole aesthetic is just "rugged white boy from the ghetto" he wears oversized shirts, Eminem wears oversized shirts, he puts his hood over his hat, Eminem puts his hood over his hat, the only real difference is NF wears boots and ripped jeans, and Eminem wore a white t-shirt with sweatpants, and now wears a black hoodie and thin chain. hell, even their logos look the same! (chopped up letters that are fused into each other, backwards letters, bold and straight font, they're the same!) if he didn't wanna be compared to Eminem, maybe he shouldn't copy Eminem as much as he does.
Not really a fan of NF but I do have to acknowledge the guys talent, he really seems to care about his craft, it’s crazy how a lot of his fans are also fans of Tom Macdonald who is the complete opposite and just wack af in general, NF is nothing like that loser.
I always love about one half of his albums. They're def not flawless but he consistently makes enjoyable music that's relatable and easy to listen to imo. He's just good at making a product idk.. Also, some of his stuff goes pretty hard, especially the Intros
@Optimal_cane man we just like his music and whats up with this "Only white kids named kyle" stereotype Im black...and my names john and we dont go around yelling everywhere YoU JuSt DoNT KnoW WhAt ReAl RaP Is
You forget the fact that not cussing in hip hop like AT ALL is a very difficult thing to achieve, no fillers just straight clean is a talented thing to be able to do in itself that’s why I respect him the most Bc that is very impressive and unique
@@nomanejane5766 that further proves the point... makes it much harder not having any of the main content of hiphop including cussing, try to freestyle with no cussing and not talking about any of the things you just mentioned.. see how hard it is
It's shows her personality or where he lives in and that makes him unique but i don't think it's that impressive. Majority of rappers cuss cuz they were born and expose from it, they just embrace it which is the soul of hiphop atleast imo
@@joelercoaster lol, no it doesn't. u don't need to curse to rap. u don't need to rap abt drugs & guns either. thats not his lane, he rapping in a lane that he is comfortablein, isn't a challenge. ur acting like all rappers portray a certain kind of image is tired & old. there's even Christian rappers, no one is applauding them for not cursing.
For anyone sorting by new, notice how the NF fans are mostly respectful? Take notes Tom Macdonald and Adam Calhoun fans this is how you should respond.
they really are though, i thought the response towards this video might be more aggressive but most of his fanbase seems really chill which i appreciate
@@CDTVProductions I agree. And as a big music fan there’s nothing I love more than a civil discussion between other music fans. We all love music why be angry at someone for a different opinion?
Me personally,I don’t think NF has a single bad song from his commercial albums.But i get why some people feel like they’re similar,but to me they all carry different emotions and meanings when i hear them and i think thats all that matters in the end...
I think the biggest part of NF’s discography you didn’t talk about, and it’s probably because he doesn’t bring it up as much anymore, is Faith. It’s a big part of his older work and some of his newer work. As for the major comments here is my response. NF isn’t an Artist you put on a playlist alone. He isn’t an Eminem, where you can have a playlist of his songs and feel something different for most of them. Also maybe it’s just me, but I think the NF song with T9 on his most recent album will do a lot for his style. I’d imagine Tech has the cache to kinda sit him down and say “hey, a lot of these songs sound the same. You’ve got talent for sure, just use it”
Tbh I went into this thinking this would be another hate video on NF but was surprised how you were actually really cool about his music and gave him credit where it was due As a huge nf fan it's nice seeing someone give actual criticism and not just blind hate for his music
As a big NF fan, this is pretty accurate ngl. There's something about the consistent aggressive style he has tho that is addicting, and I like that I know what I'm gonna get with an NF project. Just my opinion I know it isn't for everyone
Dear CDTV, I'm an NF fan, but I have the same issues with lack of variety in his sound as you do. I felt that it was addressed a bit in his past two releases, but I'd like to see more. I'm willing to forgive a bit of the issue with the Search though because I felt he made a significant lyrical improvement. I also think The Search is 3-4 tracks too long. I understand your criticisms of his songwriting as well. He does make a lot of references to his past pain, but several of those are more surface-level. I feel he does do a great job telling stories though. Story, Intro 3, Nate, Changes, and How Could You Leave Us all do a great job. As for the corniness factor, while the bars you mentioned are certainly overused, I don't feel that they're all that corny. If NF was forcing the issue and trying to make jokes land or laughing at his own words (a la Eminem), I would take more of an issue with the bars, but as it is, I just feel that they're meh. I also think that you can see some significant improvement in his lyric-writing from Perception to Changes and Clouds. Returns has sequences where he says stuff like "tool kit without the pliers" etc., which I thought was decent, and "Like a mannequin that can speak, what I have in store is unique" wasn't a bad line either. I actually think the larger improvement has been in his flow, which has always been the strongest part of his rapping to me. Yes, the Eminem comparisons are a bit of a problem, although I think they're a bit overstated. His delivery is a lot like Eminem's, that is absolutely true. I don't see many similarities though between the production styles of the two artists. Eminem, especially earlier on in his career, used bouncy, G-funk influenced synths, while NF uses heavy, dark orchestration, which puts him closer to Hopsin for me. Although I'm certainly not the biggest fan of NF, I do enjoy his music despite all the issues you pointed out. I was nearly ready to stop being a fan after Perception came out (one more album would've done it) but the improvements I saw on Changes convinced me to stay. I hope I continue to see more evolution and improvement from NF and thanks a lot CDTV for this video. It was really interesting and a lot of fun to hear your thoughts. Sean
@ZUULIUS Because I wrote it as I was watching the video and I love having open conversations about this kind of stuff. I tend to get long-winded sometimes too lol.
@@fabi2.006 That may be true. I don't expect him to read it (although you never know for sure); I just wanted to write out my thoughts on his comments.
I wish my friends would actually give music a chance before shitting on it like you do. I don't even mean NF either, just in general. A lot of my friends won't engage in anything beyond surface level conversations about music taste. It really sucks. They're so stubborn and refuse to give certain artists a chance
Personally what I don't like about NF is that his overall style (music videos, delivery, lyrics, album covers, all of it) seems... "generated". Like if there was a rapper generator machine and you set it settings to "lyrical + dark" what you'd probably get is something really close to how I thin NF sounds like
NF is one of my all time favorite artists, but I understand that he isn't for everyone. I respect you for being respectful and constructive with your thoughts! 👍
NF not having much variety in his lyrics and instrumentals is exactly why I like him. I've been in a depressed rut for most of my life and I find the lack of change in the albums to be similar to the lack of change in my life. It's relatable. That's why I love NF. Also NF sounds NOTHING like Eminem. Idk where people see similarities.
@@ezekielanderson9055 u don't see the resemblance because ur biased towards nf. Frequent rap listeners can easily depict and hear that nf sounds exactly like a recovery/encore clone of em
@@tahapunisher Tell me a song from another rapper that sounds like an nf song. Im legit curious what songs sound similar, cuz I don't hear it in any songs.
For clarification I'm an NF fan and I have been for some time. I'm not pissed or angry I promise lmao. I thought you made some genuinely good points. However I also have some criticism for how you constructed this video and some of the opinions in it. The first thing you said was that sonically much if his music has reoccurring themes and instruments which is absolutely true. You also said that subjectively that kind of repetition just isnt for you which is completely fine. Your second criticism of the lyrics however I find to be incredibly flawed. You made the statement that the songs on the Album The search could be summed up in one sentence which I completely disagree with. I feel like one song on the Album could be summed up with that sentence and thats "I miss the day's" the others have a variety of topics and go into them in depth. For ex. When I grow up is written from the perspective of a younger NF just breaking into rap and telling himself what he will be. Explaining what he's had to do and how hard he's had to work. The Search the song is about the beginning of a journey into self discovery and helping himself. Change is about acknowledging the things about himself he needs to change and vowing to change them while on his search. Leave me alone is about the struggles he feels with OCD and fame and how it's affected him every day of his career. There are many more examples. Then you criticized his punchlines and showed examples. My problem here is that you didn't explain why you didn't like these punch lines you just called them Dad jokes which I personally disagree with, power to you if you think they're dad jokes. But then you didn't show examples of what you consider GOOD punchlines so it leaves the question of why you think these punchlines are bad up in the air. And then the classic Eminem and NF are similar. Eminem and Nf are both white michigan born angry rappers. But NF's race has absolutely nothing to do with his music while it has alot to do with Em's music. Em was cultivating a career amidst racial bias and a divide so large it caused bullying of the rapper when he was a kid. To my knowledge NF has.never once referenced the color of his skin in his rap because it has no part to play. It didn't affect his music. They were both born in michigan which is a similarity that doesn't really matter. And the final one. They're both angry. This one has always confused me because yes they are both angry but the REASON they're angry are different. Metallica's music can be considered angry yet no one compares them to em. The anger is merely am emotion felt. The reasons for that anger is buried within the music and can be seen in differences such as being plagued by OCD and a mother that has died due to an overdose. While Em's mother controlled his life and treated him like he was sick all the time. Two very different cases of anger. So I heavily disagree with your video but that's just my opinion. Have a great day. Sorry for the wall of text lmao
That’s what I’ve been saying NF isn’t a bad rapper by any means but he just NEEDS to switch it up. His fans are just gonna get tired of the sound in the long run and not want to go revisit specific albums
@derp derpin I like CDTV and understand his point of view, but I agree with you. He has his style that nobody else in the genre really does (or does this well, at least). He could have some more variety, sure, but I can't fault him for sticking to what he's good at. and His lyrics about mental health resonate so well with people because even though CD doesn't *think* they're in depth, they literally describe the mental illnesses he's referencing perfectly. I've never heard someone who deals with severe depression, anxiety, or OCD say his lyrics are too surface level. He's tackled just about every symptom/challenge of anxiety & depression in his music, and still finds new ways to talk about it that don't just repeat exactly what he's said before. People who don't deal with them may see this as surface level/stale, but to someone who actually suffers from severe mental illness, he tackles every aspect pretty perfectly, which I've never heard done before personally.
As a fan of NF I agree with your views on everything, I didn’t even realize those strings were on a lot of recent songs. I too would love to see more variety like totally different types of beats and flows, even though I love the simplicity of his songs it would be nice to hear more versatile things too, either way I always going to rock with him
NF is my favorite artist and his music saved my life. I will be a stan forever but I absolutely respect anyone who says he is just not for them. There are many artist that I just don't vibe with but I don't put others down for liking them. Having a respectful opinion is key and I think that is why some NF fans get mad because some people just trash him instead of saying hey he is just not for me. We all have different taste and that is okay!!
I don’t see how NF write all those lyrics with the same flow and rhyme scheme and sit there and think to himself “Yeah, this is fire” and even more so I don’t understand how so many people are fans of the basic flow and lyrical content. Really says a lot about the music listeners of today and what people who wanna listen to rap but don’t have good taste are into.
I saw a lot of people complaining about it. that's because you are interpreting it in that way. He uses that term Because he writes music based on his real life. He is not saying his music is " real " and everything else is " fake "
I completely agree. He's talented but he's extremely repetitive. His beats, songwriting and underlying tone is boring. I like his few songs like how could you leave us. I wish he dive deep into his songs sonically and lyrically
@@zenvious5645 you have something wrong with you, im an NF fan not because hes the best but because i think he has the most potential and skill as a rapper. But he is nowhere close to tech9ne.
@@emerealm3779 The sad part is he wasn’t even the very first artist to perform, and he was probably the second most popular. It went Big Lenbo, KYLE, NF, Logic
@@zachwilt1009 that doesn't matter. He was way less popular than logic and logics audience is different than NFs so it completely makes sense why it happened
Well Lenbos’s, KYLE and (some of) Logics music are more hype and fun. since NF’s music is so fast paced and aggressive I understand why no one would care for him in a concert
Dude. That's exactly how I feel about him now. After clouds. It all kinda sounds the same. Let's hope his next album will be something new to keep fans going. And attract new fans.
I respect your opinion for sure...that said...your life literally consists of chopping up people's passions and life's work. No wonder you don't like his music you've listened to it but you haven't heard it. Why you feel the need to broadcast your unfavorable opinion baffles me! Like this is what you do for a living? You picked a few songs you liked out of 5 albums, "These all sound the same" which they didn't atleast not like you were implying. It's like saying Metallicas songs all sound the same because they all have electric guitar in them. Come on man
Bruh art is meant to be judged and criticised. Only because it's your "passion" doesn't mean it'd not entitled to criticism. What you're passionate about doesn't have to be good. Grow a thicker skin
Exactly, I found myself getting bored after listening to nf for a continuous time, it's why I haven't been able to ever listen a full album from him in one go, because it just gets too one dimensional
He has this therapy session stuff and “the search” but in the end he doesn’t seem to find anything. Take Dave’s psychodrama for example. You can see how he grows with more and more introspection throughout the record. But NF just seems to repeat the same stuff over and over to fit the image he’s created and the crowd that relates so much to his music
despite the date this is not an april fools video
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Oh coolio.
Nice
Pls react to FMTY quadeca new stufff pls
are we getting a FMTY reaction and or review?
I don’t trust anything on April 1st...CDTV is a NF fan confirmed!
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damn you got me 🙈
I changed this comment so triggered NF fans can stop replying to me.
@@vanillakilla23 im black and a huge fan, so thats quite the generalization
I think if you’ve found one NF song you like, you’ve found 4 entire projects you like.
Fr I do like a few nf songs but alot of his songs sound the same
@@Ricky-1 so do a lot of mumble rappers bs most artists stick to the same message and sound eminem is kinda getting to that “meh” category sure he’s a beast with his word play but most of his songs have no replay ability anymore for me I can listen to nf thru and thru went to three shows so far and will be going to a fourth helped me out of one of the worst mental states I’ve ever had in my life
@@electricpuddle1320 yea I can see where you're coming from nf just isnt really my kind of music
@@electricpuddle1320 but why compare? We are talking ab NF, not mumble rap.
@@electricpuddle1320 I had a stroke reading this
“I’ll accept advice if it’s not presented ignorantly”
~NF
Look, costs are high they multiply then cause divides im forced to fight
@@cringegod4.030 the poison I’ve been sippin on has quite the bite
@@ldcommando1616 It killed me twice they rigged the lights so yall can see the parts of mine that aren't so bright
@@cringegod4.030 See, often i apologize then authorize the awful times, to pop up *Nate* like I'm right behind you
@@linzym.nunezc.1207 id advise you not to try to climb inside the mind like i do
As a diehard NF fan, I appreciate how constructive and respectful you are, huge respect and great video
i completely agree
@derp derpin NF sucks, cry about it
@Neezy I disagree with him on the video being bad because has good points near the end but I feel like a lot of his points in the beginning apply to rappers that he likes too so it kind of takes value away from his opinion because it's not a true reason unless he's being hypocritical. Most rappers in general aren't experimental and try to reinvent themselves and just keep doing what works for them and that tends to give them a signature style. He could have just said, "I don't like his style" and it would be more convincing if that makes sense.
@derp derpin yeah no sht every artist sounds like them self lol what are you even saying?? It’s possible to sound like yourself and also not make the same song over and over again
@@gangg1762 No need to be rude
CDTV without glasses is something precious
Whatever you do, do not say the word “precious” in playboi cardi’s baby voice.
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@@iamdigbick9504 thats definetely not a first my mans duplee stole my vibe i been rockin this pic. Jokes aside duplee a goat forreal
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This doesn’t look like the Tom Macdonald album review, but I am legally blind so my eyes could be deceiving me... 🤔
@lil scott I didn't think it was as bad but whatever
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@@Brandon-qn2ci nothin just kinda know Asa sorta lmao
@@OracleMusicOfficial idk what that means is what im saying
He has a line on Outcast: "same style but the songs are better."
I think he's continuing to delve into his signature style, and he's getting better at it. Some songs definitely sound similar to me, but I generally like the sound so it's not a problem (it really struck me that Lost and Paid My Dues sound veeeery similar though, from the beat to the structure of the song). His hooks have gotten a loooot better recently though imo. Also the dude single handedly got me into the genre of hip-hop so always mad respect to him for that, even if I'm not digging the current music. Overall I liked the mixtape better than the Search album. But hey, that's just my opinion!
Honestly I hope he doesn’t continue to remake the same songs like he does now. Just imagine 5 years done the line...4-5 more albums that just sound like revisions of The Search
I definitely felt "no excuses" & "options" To be very similar from the search
As an NF fan. I respect you and your opinion. Along with your respectful delivery. Thank you for that :)
Much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed the video despite our differing opinions 🙏🏻
@@CDTVProductions we didn’t enjoyed the video just gotta act like we respect it
@@navon173 nah I'm sure there are a lot of NF fans who enjoyed the video, you don't speak for his entire fanbase lmao
This is exactly the way people should think. It's nice to see people just respecting each other's opinions!
I thought this was an April fools joke and it would be the Tom MacDonald video but you were 2 steps ahead of me and indirectly fooled me. Smart one mate.
I like NF's music but i understand that he us not everyones cup of tea
It is an April fools jokes don't take it seriously
@@lol4907 Keep telling yourself that buddy. Also this vid was on his patreon which was released before today.
Also this is to serious to even be a joke.
It wasn't a april fool's
@@lol4907 he makes to many points that make sense for this to be a joke
I can‘t stand NF‘s music, but i‘m really surprised by how respectful his fans are in the comments. Shoutout to his fanbase for not feeling attacked by constructive criticism unlike most others would. (Eminem, J. Cole, Juice...)
I bet you didnt see his toxic fans on IG😂
Imma actually be real I don’t think I’ve ever heard criticism of j cole
I think its the fact that most people that like NFs music are not offended persay but dont really want to say much because one its on april 1st but also hes not super wrong about the points he made but also Nfs music helps alot of people like his song Just like You is a strong song for some people
The thing is those fan bases can be respectful. Its just that most of the time people aren't giving constructive criticism or are respectful towards them. Its like a self fulfilling prophecy.
Dont forget X fans. I have received countless death threats for saying hes overrated
I'm a huge NF fan, but I fully respect your opinion. Not everyone has to like him and as long as the videos remain so respectful then that's okay
Ye
CDTV gives us 2 videos within a week, Christmas is officially on April 1st this year.
Just like someone else said, as a really big nf fan, i appreciate you’re opinion and honesty, and you’re not rude about it. Amazing video! ❤️ 🔥
I wish more of his fan base had this mindset
@@pestoburger
Honestly you can’t expect much variety from the Search and Clouds, mainly due to one being an album and the other a mixtape. The majority of the songs on Clouds are songs that didn’t make it on the Search.
I'm a big NF fan but I respect what u r saying. I personally think that you either are a big fan of him or you straight up don't like him, you can't just enjoy some of his songs. I have gotten used to the repetitiveness on some tracks and it doesn't annoy me while I don't see the em similarities so strongly
Usually I would understand the kind of mindset of "you can't just like a few songs from him" but in this case he literally said in the video himself that he doesn't dislike all of his music/thinks it's bad but that he actually likes some NF songs and thinks that they're good.
I like NF, but am not a huge fan
I don’t respect this man at all
@@MrDeviosity its April fools lmao
Pre sure he stated that this is not an April fool's joke. None the less it's his opinion however I luv NF.
This title caught me off guard ngl. I thought CDTV would be a major fan of NF
he is white but not THAT white
@@SaaMaistaa I’m black and I kinda like NF 🤷🏿♂️😂
@@SaaMaistaa I'm asian and I'm a huge NF fan
@@SaaMaistaa jeez, not a tad racist or anything. That's like saying only black people like J Cole or Lamar
@@JCrobinson_1113 lmao thats not racism its just a random stereotype of nf listeners im white myself
I clicked on this video expecting to hate it because I am a huge NF fan but, honestly with how respectful you were and how well you explained your opinion I respect it.
I think i speak for every NF fan when i say that we hate the "NF sounds like Eminem" argument but as you said thats not the big issue.
I personall love his music and the way he writes his lyric, its like hes speaken for me with better words but i can understand when people get tired of him taking up the same topics over and over again.
One reason why i love his music aswell is his voice, like how he uses it and shows agression and the way he flows.
bruh why are you writing like an infant
Before we get started thank you to PAINcone for sponsoring this video 😂
i first heard NF as an angry 16 year old on my way to school. his music at the time was just relatable to me. but as i got older i just stopped returning to his music. ive heard everything he's released and there's only a handful of songs i return to. I personally agree with everything you said
His music is kinda made for people in a specific life situation/ age group. I like music for all ages (except maybe children songs lol) i dont personally relate with a lot of painful messages but i enjoy actual lyrics and not the same things weve heard for 30 years
I'm a teen and it makes sense lol.
@@samgalindo Not really
Bruh i was in a psych ward 3 times for severe depression, and literally all the white (not racist just being real) 16-17 year olds would play this man's songs and mumble along like it was the best thing they'd heard.
@@hbkavnish basically
I'm a fan of nf music, I'll accept this.
But i don't understand why people say it's only the whites that listen to nf, I'm black and i listen to NF some people are just funny.😹
It's just a funny stereotype, (i mean look at his concerts) anyone can enjoy his music
Vibe, swag, soul...call it how you want, but all of this has always been an integral part of hip-hop. NF has absolutely 0. First time I heard one of his songs, I thought it was a parody.
I’m a huge NF fan and your opinion is highly respectable. You just said your opinion and did it in a very respectful way.
Love how you said “He’s not for me, but that’s okay.”
This is so true, because somethings are just not for everyone.
Feel the exsct same! I love nf and i appreciate how respectful cdtv was
Why do yhu like nf bc like cdtv I can’t listen to his music
@@LLJullian It's most likely down to relatability, his lyrics on his emotional tracks resonate with those going through similar things.
@@LLJullian he talks honestly about his life, some of his stuff is relatable, i like his many flows, the fact he can rap and sing it goes on. Personally im more interested in listen to what someone has to say and their life. I also love grime music and drill hahah its like a healthy mix of different rappers and sub genres. Its not just nf. I dont like tom macdonald btw. Feel like i should put that out there haha. What do you like?
@@LLJullian CDTV didn’t say he can’t listen to it, he admitted to liking some songs. Some other details as well, but he still never said he CAN’T. Somethings are just not for everyone.
I just started the video but I already know why you don’t like NF s music. Because he is not as talented as King Soulja
that doesn't seem quite fair, how is anyone going to compete with the goat???
FAX
I was scared to watch this for a long time because I love both NF and your videos, but I seriously respect your opinion and that you’re not bashing NF, just giving your opinion. I can understand all this
i think you can like soethink someone else dislikes
NF seems like the type of rapper to feature on one of those "Death to Mumble Rap" youtube rapper collabs
🤣🤣🤣
Well everyone on that dtmr song is a nf clone so he wouldn't
@@Boo-wp1xw I wouldn't say crypt (majority of the time) (he does do some different songs) but the rest yeah
@@mr.akinola07 crypt is overrated garbage
@@Boo-wp1xw the only one on it who's a clone of NF is Gawne
Off topic, but I was seeing an NF Instagram ad when this noti popped up
As an avid NF fan, I love how well you handled this as a topic, and the fact that I agree with most of these points feel like a testament to that fact
much appreciated! 🙏🏻
I hate how I already judged you by just reading the title then when I started watching I realized you have points of reason and making it understandable👌
Im a fan of NF's music, have been since Therapy but trust me man literally every point on here (except songwriting to an extent) is true. The lack of variety in his music makes me burn out on his music extremely fast, with Clouds just releasing the only tracks i listen to are Drifting and Story. I only really listen to tracks from Therapy Session and The Search (his 2 best albums by a mile).
I feel like when NF has a certain topic to focus on he really excels, whereas if hes just writing about being sad in general its very hit or miss. For example, Nate is one of my fav NF tracks and u can tell he had a concept in mind and executed it very well imo (same for story and many others). Whereas Thinking in the same album its just very boring to listen to cos he kinda just says alot but says nothing at the same time.
Honestly I'm the same way
Yeah Nate is a great song and he tells the story well, some other songs though seem like they don’t have as much of a basis or a story and are just about general sadness and not as good imo
True, for me Drifting, Dream, Just like You, I Miss the Days, Nate, Returns, and When I Grow Up are the ones I’ll listen to on replay but the others I might listen once or twice and then stop.
Naw fam perception is the best
It's amazing how NF has improved with every single album
Tbf if an artist has a 'Fans also like' section on their Spotify page where Tom MacDonald is the first artist, chances are they're not your cup of tea
lmao that's a solid argument
They only listen to white “real” rappers (and Joyner Lucas, Hopsin) and all they do is shit on “mumble” rap 😂
See, NF is my favorite rapper (NOT THE BEST, I JUST REALLY LIKE IT FOR SOME REASON) but I am the opposite of like 85% of NF fans
@@Jay-py1sb its nice if you like it a lot. But some people claim that he is one of the best like bro how uncultured are you? 😂
@@stijn8588 not true for every nf fan. i enjoy every other type of hip hop equally as much as him.
While his music is very similar across albums, I struggle to think of another artist with a similar style who can pull off the dramatic and cinematic type beats over and over successfully. I think NF has carved out a sound that only he has. Definitely a sound and style you either love and can’t get enough of, or don’t like and get bored quickly of.
I like this take on the subject
The first NF criticism video that doesn’t have a 1:5 like to dislike ratio lmao
Probably because alot of people subbed to CDTV probably dont listen to him. But yeah I've peeped that also
@@Will-bn9km probably because CDTV's video is actually we constructed and written unlike other """critics"""
It's because most other critque videos are disrespectful and mostly just compare NF to other hip hop rappers like DaBaby and others like that, that have completely different styles from NF.
Because this guy atleast understands that if he doesnt like something it doesnt mean its bad or done wrong.
I honestly think he has a lot of talent and potential. A change in his production style will change everything
His writing skills need alot of work
His writing is mediocre like he'll rhyme skeleton with mileage, only rhyming the ending syllable of the rhyme scheme
@@Joseph-cr4cx flow is great but I just never listened to an nf song and went like damn that was a bar bar
@@tahapunisher ? There's a few in clouds and the search that are pretty bary bar.
@@hamsarris8341 clouds was honestly the only nf album I enjoyed the most from him
The segways into the sponsors are getting much more elaborate
I been a fan of NF since therapy session was released and I personally love his music but I respect your opinion and you make some good points
Nf about to make a song about you now lmao
"I get it my music isnt for everybody but at least have the decency to leave me out of your RUclips discography" 💀
oh my god 💀
I straight up read that in nfs voice
@@CDTVProductions after those lyrics he’ll throw in the “agghhhhh”
"But at least have the decency in you
To leave me alone, when you freaks see me out
In the streets when I'm eating or feeding my daughter
To not come and speak to me"
i see u
@@danielvu5211 heh was listening to that song and I was like this would good
Lmao! Aye creds on that smooth transition into the promo 😂😂. And respectfully I disagree with your take on NF's music, but I see where you're coming from.
As an NF fan who had grown out of the getting mad when people don’t like him thing a long time ago I find it funny to watch people review him negatively and try to keep assuring them that it’s okay to not all like the same person
I like NF but he sounds the same. Love listening to him tho
I don’t blame him for continuing to reiterate that not everyone has to dig the same artist. Especially with someone like nf who almost had a cult fan base lol. Don’t wanna piss them off 🙏😂
@@suzuyajuuzou8235 You never seen toxic fan base if you think NF fan base is cult
@@knightvisuals6238 imagine, *YOU* telling ME what my own experience I had with an artists fan base is like. Thanks for telling me what I actually have experienced 😒😂
@@suzuyajuuzou8235 This comment section isn't 1 percent of what you said lmfao
Yeah, as a fan, I do notice these trends. However, especially in Clouds, the beats and the way he flows in them keeps me listening.
As a massive NF fan, who owns each of his albums, I have a lot of respect for your takes. I appreciate a different perspective and I can admit that most of these critiques were accurate. I enjoy NF, his music never lets me down, but he's definitely an acquired taste which you do not need to acquire.
🃏♥️♣️♦️♠️
@derp derpin Damn dude you seem to be really pressed over CDTV stating his own opinion.
@Hay BayBay I never said NF lacked talent. Did you miss the part where I said that I own all of his albums?
Day 1 of asking for a cdtv playlist
A hard NF track that's absolutely amazing is 'TRUST'. And no, it's not only because Tech N9ne is featured on it.
I’m also surprised it’s not higher up on peoples charts. I thought it was amazing.
I think "layers" is better
Huge NF fan here. Respect you for being REAL.
used to be a HUGE NF fan back when perception dropped up until a few months after the search (which i loved at the time), but i’ve grown out of that dark place in my life. not saying it was a dark place BECAUSE of NF, but I was listening to NF because his music is so therapeutic if you’re struggling mentally. He gave me a lot of peace in my painful nights and i’ll forever appreciate that, but I just don’t care to listen to him anymore now that I feel better and have found other therapeutic artists like Kid Cudi and Mac Miller, who i just greatly prefer. Still bought the clouds CD to support tho even tho i only listened to it a whole 1 time ever lol
Yeah I think that’s the whole thing why people don’t like nf. Only the people who are in a deep hole can relate to his music. Once they have gotten out of that hole it’s kinda like nf helped you get back up but now it’s time to move on.
@@prophecy4270 this is exactly how i feel about him. he helped me stay afloat until i was able to swim
Disagree. While he does make countless of sad songs you guys act like he doesn’t also have countless of hype and motivation songs.
@@seriouslymason yeah but they’re not… great…
@@RahmenNoodles Trust, Options, Layers isn't good?
Are you going to make a From me To You review?
Clever idea uploading this today (on April Fools) to avoid most of the backlash from angry fans who don't understand what an opinion is.
Ps. I'm a HUGE NF fan
I dont see any angry NF fans. Everyone i see respectfully disagrees and usually states why in a polite manner
@@emerealm3779 Exactly. I love nf, but everyone can have opinions and that’s fine.
@@emerealm3779 then people have surprisingly gotten more mature. No 12 year olds on this channel apparently
Actually I see the opposite happening. There's a bunch of toxic NF haters under every comment saying NF is trash like anyone even cares about their opinion
@@hbkavnish exactly. Everyone’s talking about his toxic fans, but we don’t do anything. We support him, but we aren’t jerks to everyone else unlike them
I personally don't hate him , he's good at what he does . But man I can't stand his cringy ass fans crowning him as GOAT lol .
Fans will always be unlikeable and stan over their idol. I ignore the fans amd listen to his music. I really do love his songs. They are deep and are meaningful. They have helped me a lot
Ye like he’s descent but why are people idolizing him lol
Mr. Productions, is your brother CDTVThaG ok? He hasn't uploaded in a while so I just wanted to check up on him
Rumors have been spreading that cdtvthag was part of a mafia and left the country to hide his identity.
I guess you could say that CDTV hasn’t got a good *perception* on NF’s music.
I’ll take my leave.
nooo how could you leave us
@@jakobnyman1953 don't worry, I'm sure that's a joke
@@palle4859 yeah, just like you
@@jakobnyman1953 lmao
@@palle4859 sorry how would i KNOW that would be mean
If I’m being real his aesthetic is boring man, it looks like what hypertension feels like
You had the best argument. Most people are just: "He's a sad white boy," or "He doesn't curse," and the "Sounds like eminem" thing is always there. But, you managed to support your argument. I disagree with it, NF is my favorite, but that's okay. Good job supporting your opinion.
NF fans make fun of how generic and basic mumble rap is and then nf drops the same song over and over across 4 projects
Yeah fr
That’s cause all of them are twelve and close minded. Which most grow out of that stage
I didn’t know Tom McDonald cut his hair and changed his album title to clouds. I could’ve sworn this should be the gravestones review. Edit: bro I regret making this joke
Horrible take. NF has been around for 10 years and his numbers absolutely smash Tom’s. Grow up. Tom copied NF’s style.
Austin Stone I was making a joke because he said he would do the gravestones review, but he posted this.
Austin Stone nothing to do with Tom McDonald being better than nf. I literally said in my first comment that I could’ve sworn this should be the gravestones review. So don’t worry. Anyone who thinks Tom McDonald is better then anyone has a fucking mental tumor.
@@JXSH722 nobody said tom mcdonald was better than nf lol it's a joke about how this was supposed to be the gravestones review
Scary! I’m the one who mad that joke. Austin stone was the dude who got butthurt, or did u mean to reply to him.
I literally got notified for this video as I’m listening to NF Lol
Lol same 🤣
Same
NF is just diet Eminem.
everything NF does is the same shit Eminem does, but watered down.
like not even just sound-wise, (though he really does rip off Eminem's flows and voice... but not his lyrics, because Eminem is actually good at writing lyrics, even if they're stupid, they're still multi-syllabic and complex, and his beats don't all sound the same... even if some of them aren't very good...) he's just copying Eminem in every way possible.
he named himself the same way Eminem did (it's just his initials, but to not be like Eminem, he didn't spell it like Eneff, or something like that)
his whole aesthetic is just "rugged white boy from the ghetto"
he wears oversized shirts, Eminem wears oversized shirts, he puts his hood over his hat, Eminem puts his hood over his hat, the only real difference is NF wears boots and ripped jeans, and Eminem wore a white t-shirt with sweatpants, and now wears a black hoodie and thin chain.
hell, even their logos look the same! (chopped up letters that are fused into each other, backwards letters, bold and straight font, they're the same!)
if he didn't wanna be compared to Eminem, maybe he shouldn't copy Eminem as much as he does.
Not really a fan of NF but I do have to acknowledge the guys talent, he really seems to care about his craft, it’s crazy how a lot of his fans are also fans of Tom Macdonald who is the complete opposite and just wack af in general, NF is nothing like that loser.
"It had me thinking I found Drake's ghostwriter."
Damn, man. That was savage lol.
I always love about one half of his albums. They're def not flawless but he consistently makes enjoyable music that's relatable and easy to listen to imo. He's just good at making a product idk..
Also, some of his stuff goes pretty hard, especially the Intros
Oh boy get ready for the Kyles and Connors to get on your head and claim you don’t know what “real rap” is lmao
@Optimal_cane man we just like his music and whats up with this "Only white kids named kyle" stereotype Im black...and my names john and we dont go around yelling everywhere YoU JuSt DoNT KnoW WhAt ReAl RaP Is
@@regal2424 A LOT of nf fans do say that tho. Thank you for not doing that
You should review Hope, Im curious to hear what you think about it
The fact he used his glasses as a transition to an ad was creative and funny ash 😭😭💀
Had to like the video just for that alone 😂
the Nathens would like a word with you...
rip
sensitive soci3ty lol
My name is Nathan, NF is meh at best, let you down isnt even that great.
@sensitive soci3ty do u like burgers?
@@joefr123 of course i do
@@SensitiveSoci3ty15u are now epic, here is a epic 🍔
Bet you’ll make the FMTY album review before posing the Tom MacDonald one
You forget the fact that not cussing in hip hop like AT ALL is a very difficult thing to achieve, no fillers just straight clean is a talented thing to be able to do in itself that’s why I respect him the most Bc that is very impressive and unique
hes not rapping about selling drugs, banging strippers, robbing people etc. so not much of a challenge
@@nomanejane5766 that further proves the point... makes it much harder not having any of the main content of hiphop including cussing, try to freestyle with no cussing and not talking about any of the things you just mentioned.. see how hard it is
It's shows her personality or where he lives in and that makes him unique but i don't think it's that impressive. Majority of rappers cuss cuz they were born and expose from it, they just embrace it which is the soul of hiphop atleast imo
What i meant by that is it reflects their life
@@joelercoaster lol, no it doesn't. u don't need to curse to rap. u don't need to rap abt drugs & guns either. thats not his lane, he rapping in a lane that he is comfortablein, isn't a challenge. ur acting like all rappers portray a certain kind of image is tired & old. there's even Christian rappers, no one is applauding them for not cursing.
For anyone sorting by new, notice how the NF fans are mostly respectful? Take notes Tom Macdonald and Adam Calhoun fans this is how you should respond.
they really are though, i thought the response towards this video might be more aggressive but most of his fanbase seems really chill which i appreciate
@@CDTVProductions I agree. And as a big music fan there’s nothing I love more than a civil discussion between other music fans. We all love music why be angry at someone for a different opinion?
Me personally,I don’t think NF has a single bad song from his commercial albums.But i get why some people feel like they’re similar,but to me they all carry different emotions and meanings when i hear them and i think thats all that matters in the end...
I think the biggest part of NF’s discography you didn’t talk about, and it’s probably because he doesn’t bring it up as much anymore, is Faith. It’s a big part of his older work and some of his newer work.
As for the major comments here is my response. NF isn’t an Artist you put on a playlist alone. He isn’t an Eminem, where you can have a playlist of his songs and feel something different for most of them.
Also maybe it’s just me, but I think the NF song with T9 on his most recent album will do a lot for his style. I’d imagine Tech has the cache to kinda sit him down and say “hey, a lot of these songs sound the same. You’ve got talent for sure, just use it”
Lol I have two playlists of just NF
I have a playlist of JUST NF
I'm lazy however I have every NF song on my playlist but I stopped listing to non NF songs...
okay we all know by now that you guys are nf's fans and respect cdtvproductions, you guys don't need to say the same thing in every comment
Tbh I went into this thinking this would be another hate video on NF but was surprised how you were actually really cool about his music and gave him credit where it was due
As a huge nf fan it's nice seeing someone give actual criticism and not just blind hate for his music
As a big NF fan, this is pretty accurate ngl. There's something about the consistent aggressive style he has tho that is addicting, and I like that I know what I'm gonna get with an NF project. Just my opinion I know it isn't for everyone
Dear CDTV,
I'm an NF fan, but I have the same issues with lack of variety in his sound as you do. I felt that it was addressed a bit in his past two releases, but I'd like to see more. I'm willing to forgive a bit of the issue with the Search though because I felt he made a significant lyrical improvement. I also think The Search is 3-4 tracks too long. I understand your criticisms of his songwriting as well. He does make a lot of references to his past pain, but several of those are more surface-level. I feel he does do a great job telling stories though. Story, Intro 3, Nate, Changes, and How Could You Leave Us all do a great job.
As for the corniness factor, while the bars you mentioned are certainly overused, I don't feel that they're all that corny. If NF was forcing the issue and trying to make jokes land or laughing at his own words (a la Eminem), I would take more of an issue with the bars, but as it is, I just feel that they're meh. I also think that you can see some significant improvement in his lyric-writing from Perception to Changes and Clouds. Returns has sequences where he says stuff like "tool kit without the pliers" etc., which I thought was decent, and "Like a mannequin that can speak, what I have in store is unique" wasn't a bad line either. I actually think the larger improvement has been in his flow, which has always been the strongest part of his rapping to me.
Yes, the Eminem comparisons are a bit of a problem, although I think they're a bit overstated. His delivery is a lot like Eminem's, that is absolutely true. I don't see many similarities though between the production styles of the two artists. Eminem, especially earlier on in his career, used bouncy, G-funk influenced synths, while NF uses heavy, dark orchestration, which puts him closer to Hopsin for me.
Although I'm certainly not the biggest fan of NF, I do enjoy his music despite all the issues you pointed out. I was nearly ready to stop being a fan after Perception came out (one more album would've done it) but the improvements I saw on Changes convinced me to stay. I hope I continue to see more evolution and improvement from NF and thanks a lot CDTV for this video. It was really interesting and a lot of fun to hear your thoughts.
Sean
@ZUULIUS Because I wrote it as I was watching the video and I love having open conversations about this kind of stuff. I tend to get long-winded sometimes too lol.
Bro
@@fabi2.006 Not sure what you mean
@@seansachs6105 what i mean is that you didnt have to write a whole fucking essay cause you know damn well he will never fucking read it
@@fabi2.006 That may be true. I don't expect him to read it (although you never know for sure); I just wanted to write out my thoughts on his comments.
I wish my friends would actually give music a chance before shitting on it like you do. I don't even mean NF either, just in general. A lot of my friends won't engage in anything beyond surface level conversations about music taste. It really sucks. They're so stubborn and refuse to give certain artists a chance
Personally what I don't like about NF is that his overall style (music videos, delivery, lyrics, album covers, all of it) seems... "generated". Like if there was a rapper generator machine and you set it settings to "lyrical + dark" what you'd probably get is something really close to how I thin NF sounds like
But instead of putting it on max, you put the settings on around 4 out of 10
you listened to 4 nf projects holy shit god bless dude.
NF is one of my all time favorite artists, but I understand that he isn't for everyone. I respect you for being respectful and constructive with your thoughts! 👍
NF not having much variety in his lyrics and instrumentals is exactly why I like him. I've been in a depressed rut for most of my life and I find the lack of change in the albums to be similar to the lack of change in my life. It's relatable. That's why I love NF.
Also NF sounds NOTHING like Eminem. Idk where people see similarities.
Might be the corniest shit I've ever read
@@danielmeunier6251 Then you must enjoy the suffering of others
@@ezekielanderson9055 u don't see the resemblance because ur biased towards nf. Frequent rap listeners can easily depict and hear that nf sounds exactly like a recovery/encore clone of em
@@tahapunisher
Tell me a song from another rapper that sounds like an nf song. Im legit curious what songs sound similar, cuz I don't hear it in any songs.
@@tahapunisher the only similar songs I can think of are eminem's "Love the way you lie" is lyrically similar to NF's "Time".
For clarification I'm an NF fan and I have been for some time. I'm not pissed or angry I promise lmao. I thought you made some genuinely good points. However I also have some criticism for how you constructed this video and some of the opinions in it.
The first thing you said was that sonically much if his music has reoccurring themes and instruments which is absolutely true. You also said that subjectively that kind of repetition just isnt for you which is completely fine.
Your second criticism of the lyrics however I find to be incredibly flawed. You made the statement that the songs on the Album The search could be summed up in one sentence which I completely disagree with. I feel like one song on the Album could be summed up with that sentence and thats "I miss the day's" the others have a variety of topics and go into them in depth. For ex. When I grow up is written from the perspective of a younger NF just breaking into rap and telling himself what he will be. Explaining what he's had to do and how hard he's had to work. The Search the song is about the beginning of a journey into self discovery and helping himself. Change is about acknowledging the things about himself he needs to change and vowing to change them while on his search. Leave me alone is about the struggles he feels with OCD and fame and how it's affected him every day of his career. There are many more examples. Then you criticized his punchlines and showed examples. My problem here is that you didn't explain why you didn't like these punch lines you just called them Dad jokes which I personally disagree with, power to you if you think they're dad jokes. But then you didn't show examples of what you consider GOOD punchlines so it leaves the question of why you think these punchlines are bad up in the air.
And then the classic Eminem and NF are similar. Eminem and Nf are both white michigan born angry rappers. But NF's race has absolutely nothing to do with his music while it has alot to do with Em's music. Em was cultivating a career amidst racial bias and a divide so large it caused bullying of the rapper when he was a kid. To my knowledge NF has.never once referenced the color of his skin in his rap because it has no part to play. It didn't affect his music. They were both born in michigan which is a similarity that doesn't really matter. And the final one. They're both angry. This one has always confused me because yes they are both angry but the REASON they're angry are different. Metallica's music can be considered angry yet no one compares them to em. The anger is merely am emotion felt. The reasons for that anger is buried within the music and can be seen in differences such as being plagued by OCD and a mother that has died due to an overdose. While Em's mother controlled his life and treated him like he was sick all the time. Two very different cases of anger. So I heavily disagree with your video but that's just my opinion. Have a great day.
Sorry for the wall of text lmao
👁👄👁 you are insane bro
@@PurpleHermitcrab wait why lmao
@@kalebm6758 cuz you wrote what is possibly the longest comment i have ever seen 😂
@@PurpleHermitcrab I was talking bout his entire video so it had to be LANKY
That’s what I’ve been saying NF isn’t a bad rapper by any means but he just NEEDS to switch it up. His fans are just gonna get tired of the sound in the long run and not want to go revisit specific albums
They might not, bud. The angsty teen torch will keep getting passed on.
NF is my favorite artist but man makes a good point on his variety
@derp derpin I like CDTV and understand his point of view, but I agree with you. He has his style that nobody else in the genre really does (or does this well, at least). He could have some more variety, sure, but I can't fault him for sticking to what he's good at. and His lyrics about mental health resonate so well with people because even though CD doesn't *think* they're in depth, they literally describe the mental illnesses he's referencing perfectly. I've never heard someone who deals with severe depression, anxiety, or OCD say his lyrics are too surface level. He's tackled just about every symptom/challenge of anxiety & depression in his music, and still finds new ways to talk about it that don't just repeat exactly what he's said before. People who don't deal with them may see this as surface level/stale, but to someone who actually suffers from severe mental illness, he tackles every aspect pretty perfectly, which I've never heard done before personally.
@derp derpin sorry why are you replying to every fuckin comment with this, like god damn take an opinion LOL why do you gotta be so defensive
@derp derpin you’re just wrong. Every song sounds the same. Plus, his lyrics are so freaking corny
I was introduced to Hip Hop through NF but I couldn’t agree more.
As a fan of NF I agree with your views on everything, I didn’t even realize those strings were on a lot of recent songs. I too would love to see more variety like totally different types of beats and flows, even though I love the simplicity of his songs it would be nice to hear more versatile things too, either way I always going to rock with him
NF is my favorite artist and his music saved my life. I will be a stan forever but I absolutely respect anyone who says he is just not for them. There are many artist that I just don't vibe with but I don't put others down for liking them. Having a respectful opinion is key and I think that is why some NF fans get mad because some people just trash him instead of saying hey he is just not for me. We all have different taste and that is okay!!
Thank you!!!
That's what some people are struggling to say
All the ku klux klan members mad 💀
When i was younger, like 10.. people were speaking to me about Eminem, not its time to speak about NF to other kids.. NF
I don’t see how NF write all those lyrics with the same flow and rhyme scheme and sit there and think to himself “Yeah, this is fire” and even more so I don’t understand how so many people are fans of the basic flow and lyrical content. Really says a lot about the music listeners of today and what people who wanna listen to rap but don’t have good taste are into.
I don't like how his channel name is NF "Real" Music. Just comes off as overly pretentious and self-aggrandizing..
I saw a lot of people complaining about it. that's because you are interpreting it in that way. He uses that term Because he writes music based on his real life. He is not saying his music is " real " and everything else is " fake "
I completely agree. He's talented but he's extremely repetitive. His beats, songwriting and underlying tone is boring. I like his few songs like how could you leave us. I wish he dive deep into his songs sonically and lyrically
I'm pretty sure that both Therapy Session and Perception were rushed. Many of his other releases have more time in between them and it shows.
I think with the new Hope album, some of this might change. Also, noticed the date this was posted.
Did you like the Hopsin and Tech 9 features?
N9ne did the impossible, made a nf song listenable for me
@@heretical_habits9512 k
@@heretical_habits9512 opposite for me though 😂
@@heretical_habits9512 NF made N9ne sound good for once in his long career imo
@@zenvious5645 you have something wrong with you, im an NF fan not because hes the best but because i think he has the most potential and skill as a rapper. But he is nowhere close to tech9ne.
I saw NF open for Logic one time. The venue was packed and absolutely no one payed attention to him
At his own concerts everyone is involved
Thats generally how that goes if the opening artist isnt as popular.
@@emerealm3779 The sad part is he wasn’t even the very first artist to perform, and he was probably the second most popular. It went Big Lenbo, KYLE, NF, Logic
@@zachwilt1009 that doesn't matter. He was way less popular than logic and logics audience is different than NFs so it completely makes sense why it happened
Well Lenbos’s, KYLE and (some of) Logics music are more hype and fun. since NF’s music is so fast paced and aggressive I understand why no one would care for him in a concert
Dude. That's exactly how I feel about him now. After clouds. It all kinda sounds the same. Let's hope his next album will be something new to keep fans going. And attract new fans.
bro where was this respect in the comment section when I made my video about NF :'(
don't worry bro NF fans are nothing but d riders bro
I respect your opinion for sure...that said...your life literally consists of chopping up people's passions and life's work. No wonder you don't like his music you've listened to it but you haven't heard it. Why you feel the need to broadcast your unfavorable opinion baffles me! Like this is what you do for a living? You picked a few songs you liked out of 5 albums, "These all sound the same" which they didn't atleast not like you were implying. It's like saying Metallicas songs all sound the same because they all have electric guitar in them. Come on man
lmao this is so funny.
Bruh art is meant to be judged and criticised. Only because it's your "passion" doesn't mean it'd not entitled to criticism. What you're passionate about doesn't have to be good. Grow a thicker skin
His lack of variety in his sound is exactly why I can never fully get into his music. A lot of it sounds the exact same, similar to Da Baby 😂
Same. Its just generic rappedy rap over trap beats that sound way too similar to me tbh. He should evolve his sound and style over albums.
@@Will-bn9km He evolves his sound all the time, what are you on about XD
Exactly, I found myself getting bored after listening to nf for a continuous time, it's why I haven't been able to ever listen a full album from him in one go, because it just gets too one dimensional
@@krishsharma3329 Echo chamber much XD
What song did he diss Eminem on
He has this therapy session stuff and “the search” but in the end he doesn’t seem to find anything. Take Dave’s psychodrama for example. You can see how he grows with more and more introspection throughout the record. But NF just seems to repeat the same stuff over and over to fit the image he’s created and the crowd that relates so much to his music