As a musician and biker I was screaming silently "BIKE SPOKES!" when you showed how the tines on a Rhodes work. I was so relieved you found them yourself, otherwise I would have to test spokes myself immediately. Now I can add it slowly to my neverending list of DIY-projects and don't rush it.
I love this video! I’m actually on a mission to also create a fully functioning Rhodes copy and this video was a huge help! I’m glad there is someone documenting the process because it’s hard to find anyone going in to such detail on such a rare instrument
Thank you Ian, yes this bit took a bit of thinking about and the 3d printer couldnt help too much with this one, but I think what I have came up should work.
Yep I'm very supprised someone hasn't offered one for sale commercially at a reasonable price. Cnc, 3d printing , cad are all quite mature now and very affordable. Imagine if someone could offer a 73 wooden keyboard, tine piano, for sub £2k .....
that project is so cool. i like how you consider picking more available objects to replace the parts. i see myself trying to make toy pianos sound like a rhodes in the future.
That is my way of looking at it. I don't want to recreate a Fender Rhodes, but be inspired by it. And make what is easier with the stuff around me, well that's the dream anyways.
Hey Dean, I understand that your tine assy is essentially two coupled resonators, one of which is tuned by moving the spring. Does the second one (which is an analog of twisted stripe on original Rhodes) require tuning to match rod's frequency?
My understanding is that you only need to tune the tine, if the tonebar is close to desired frequency the tine tuning will drive the frequency of the system, with the original design we can just adjust the tuning spring. With the original tone generator assembly the spring adjustment gives approximately +1/-1 semitone of tuning adjustment.
Is there an instrument that uses the same kind of magnetic pickup on a metal bar/tine that you manually hit? Like an electric vibraphone or kalimba? When I first held a tuning fork up to a guitar pickup I thought it sounded so cool that there must be instruments based around this principle.
I there might be some examples though nothing comes to mind, I am working on a couple of things that would fall into this category so watch this space. Though would be interesting if you have any ideas on this. Feel free to drop me an email.
Hello. Once again, I'm mesmerized with your courage. Could you ,please, give me the legth of original tone bars if ypu know the info. I just cannot find it anywhere. Thank you for your inspiration
@@deancoyle Heating the spokes to braze them most certainly anneals the wire, softening it considerably from a metallurgy point if view. Probably affects sustain more than anything.
It allows both parts to vibrate in a balanced way, the part that attaches to the piano you want almost no vibration, as energy will be lost there. It is interesting how it all works!
@@deancoyle i'd like to hear the difference between a steel + brass tone bar assembly and a one piece aluminum one (of the appropriate thickness) and one thing, why is the tone bar wired up and what is it wired to? ground? kind of like the bridge and strings of an electric guitar to cancel noise?
"I haven't failed, I've just found a thousand ideas that don't work!" keep at it!
haha - I wouldn't say failed... more like "just need tweaking"
As a musician and biker I was screaming silently "BIKE SPOKES!" when you showed how the tines on a Rhodes work. I was so relieved you found them yourself, otherwise I would have to test spokes myself immediately. Now I can add it slowly to my neverending list of DIY-projects and don't rush it.
I love this video! I’m actually on a mission to also create a fully functioning Rhodes copy and this video was a huge help! I’m glad there is someone documenting the process because it’s hard to find anyone going in to such detail on such a rare instrument
This the one I had no idea how you were going to do! Very impressed!
Thank you Ian, yes this bit took a bit of thinking about and the 3d printer couldnt help too much with this one, but I think what I have came up should work.
The results are super interesting, keep experimenting and eventually a cheap DIY tine piano will be possible
That's the plan! Trying to make one makes you appreciate the work the work that goes into these instruments.
Yep I'm very supprised someone hasn't offered one for sale commercially at a reasonable price. Cnc, 3d printing , cad are all quite mature now and very affordable. Imagine if someone could offer a 73 wooden keyboard, tine piano, for sub £2k .....
Wow. That really sounds good. I can't wait to see the rig put together with your hammer tip design.
Hopefully very soon!
great video! so cool seeing the entire thing all together at the end
Thank you Griffin, I am looking forward to when it starts to look more like a piano....not too much longer, though don't quote me on that! .
Great job, watching these episodes in order is very satisfying.
Thank you, glad you like them! The project is still on going!
I will complete this, watch this space!
Great work!
Thank you Solomon!
Great Work!♥ I do also recreation of Fender Rhodes 73 for my bachelor study. 😅 Do you mind if I ask you some question about it?
Yes of course! Feel free to email me, my details are in the about page. I am interested to know more about what you are up to.
This is so cool! Maybe one day you’ll give VintageVibe a run for their money/pianos! Looking forward to more content, best of luck☺️
Thank you Will!
One step at a time, just hoping to create a piano, but who knows where this will go.
@@deancoyleWhere can I find your email address?
Dean! WE NEED UPDATES ON THIS PROJECT!!! You cannot let us down, did you get letter in the mail from the boys after the MK8?!?
Posted, more to come soon too!
that project is so cool. i like how you consider picking more available objects to replace the parts. i see myself trying to make toy pianos sound like a rhodes in the future.
That is my way of looking at it. I don't want to recreate a Fender Rhodes, but be inspired by it. And make what is easier with the stuff around me, well that's the dream anyways.
Hey Dean, I understand that your tine assy is essentially two coupled resonators, one of which is tuned by moving the spring. Does the second one (which is an analog of twisted stripe on original Rhodes) require tuning to match rod's frequency?
My understanding is that you only need to tune the tine, if the tonebar is close to desired frequency the tine tuning will drive the frequency of the system, with the original design we can just adjust the tuning spring. With the original tone generator assembly the spring adjustment gives approximately +1/-1 semitone of tuning adjustment.
Hey Dean, very cool! We walk the same trails. We should meet each other some day!
That would be cool! Really like your work and hope to try your piano soon.
Is there an instrument that uses the same kind of magnetic pickup on a metal bar/tine that you manually hit? Like an electric vibraphone or kalimba? When I first held a tuning fork up to a guitar pickup I thought it sounded so cool that there must be instruments based around this principle.
I there might be some examples though nothing comes to mind, I am working on a couple of things that would fall into this category so watch this space. Though would be interesting if you have any ideas on this. Feel free to drop me an email.
I would love to see a video comparing the sound of your different tine designs.
Great idea! My plan was to finish the piano, and then look at other designs. So hopefully will post a video comparing them soon.
Hello. Once again, I'm mesmerized with your courage. Could you ,please, give me the legth of original tone bars if ypu know the info. I just cannot find it anywhere. Thank you for your inspiration
super cool!!
Thank you Pablo!
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but clock chimes have tines of different lengths that might be able to be found or bought
Not been mentioned yet, very interesting idea.
I will research that, thank you Dylan!
Very interesting project. Surprised the heating required for brazing doesn’t soften the wire tines. Can’t see why it wouldn’t
I'm not sure if it softened the tine or if the brazing was too soft. But it's doesn't work well on higher notes
@@deancoyle Heating the spokes to braze them most certainly anneals the wire, softening it considerably from a metallurgy point if view. Probably affects sustain more than anything.
What are those mutes on tines made of?
what does the larger resonator do exactly? must research.
It allows both parts to vibrate in a balanced way, the part that attaches to the piano you want almost no vibration, as energy will be lost there.
It is interesting how it all works!
@@deancoyle i'd like to hear the difference between a steel + brass tone bar assembly and a one piece aluminum one (of the appropriate thickness) and one thing, why is the tone bar wired up and what is it wired to? ground? kind of like the bridge and strings of an electric guitar to cancel noise?