Here are some games from the fourth round match at the 1977 Us Open between Borg and Stockton

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @adamh7947
    @adamh7947 Месяц назад +9

    First time seeing Dick Stockton play. He had a very solid all around game and a great net game.

    • @tomschmitz-dj1fg
      @tomschmitz-dj1fg Месяц назад

      he also from time to time gave jimmy Connors and the other top players fits....

  • @davidheid679
    @davidheid679 Месяц назад +3

    These videos are gold! Thanks for sharing. Great vid quality and interesting matches from the 70s beyond the "big matches" that we see repeatedly.

  • @rickc661
    @rickc661 Месяц назад +3

    Forest Hills was a rickety old place . felt like small high school baseball seating...... about a zillion miles from the mega stadiums the Open uses today. still, I with they were still playing har true or whatever it was called. American clay. great to see this vid.

  • @romcallis
    @romcallis 16 дней назад +1

    Stockton had a good year that year. I think he won the US Pro Indoor in Philadelphia over Connors

  • @rdmalonso1
    @rdmalonso1 Месяц назад

    Beautiful form. Sweet spot on those racquets were tiny.

  • @rrfamig
    @rrfamig Месяц назад +5

    As I recall borg had a bad shoulder
    Stocked just lobbed the ball forcing borg to hit overheads
    Borg eventually retired from the match

    • @drejtoman2974
      @drejtoman2974 Месяц назад

      Makes sense.
      Borg is serving poorly.
      Thanks for your information which explains feeble service.

    • @robertbrescia3196
      @robertbrescia3196 Месяц назад

      Borg had a strained abdominal muscle. Did not affect his groundstrokes, but he couldn't serve.

  • @camlendrim7609
    @camlendrim7609 Месяц назад

    The ‘77 US Open was the only 1 I ever attended and I believe the last on clay. I was very disappointed Borg,my hero had pulled out before my ticket date.

  • @quentincrisp6933
    @quentincrisp6933 Месяц назад +4

    It's obvious Borg is hurt just by the way he's serving!

  • @ottodoerr409
    @ottodoerr409 Месяц назад

    Thanks for posting this one, even though it’s not a classic one, it’s nice to able to watch B.Borg vs D.Stockton for a few games , I can tell right away B.Borg had some trouble with his physical condition. His body language was different compared with other matches. Good luck !!

  • @brucee6123
    @brucee6123 Месяц назад +1

    Stockton, Dupre, Sadri - very much of the same American ilk of that period IMHO (just as Dibbs & Solomon remind me of each other)

    • @ripperduck
      @ripperduck Месяц назад

      The Bagel Brothers!!!

    • @romcallis
      @romcallis 16 дней назад

      Also Brian Gottfried

  • @bjornbergen8900
    @bjornbergen8900 Месяц назад +1

    With Borg's demeanor hard to tell happy sad in pain or not

    • @SyncopateTheShot
      @SyncopateTheShot Месяц назад

      Rosewall was the same. He always looked dejected while beating you to a pulp.

  • @travb705
    @travb705 Месяц назад

    First tennis match I ever saw in person was Dick Stockton v Tim Wilkinson in Newport. Tim won - I believe - 36, 76, 76. Stockton alienated the crowd by refusing to make any effort to catch balls that were not bounced exactly to him by the ball kids. By the end, the crowd was cheering for Wilkinson.

  • @KutchaKutchakutchinKutchin
    @KutchaKutchakutchinKutchin Месяц назад

    Unfortunately there are no slow motion repetitions. Nevertheless, thanks a lot for the upload!

  • @davidgreenfield7428
    @davidgreenfield7428 Месяц назад

    I remember being there that day in Queens after Borg had lost. I was 9 years old and patted him on his back on his way back to the locker room. Forest Hills was a mob scene but in some ways it seems more crowded today in Flushing Meadows.

  • @pierluigilembo8039
    @pierluigilembo8039 Месяц назад

    Come giocava bene Stockton 👏👏

  • @philippeigoa7765
    @philippeigoa7765 4 дня назад

    Borg and not Vilas would've won that year's US Open, on a surface that suited much better than the DecoTurf 2 surface at Flushing Meadow.

  • @theoriginalthinker9199
    @theoriginalthinker9199 Месяц назад

    Dick Stockton and Brian Gottfried, two players from this era, who are interchangeable. Both solid, top 10 players, with classic textbook shots, but neither had that big shot!

    • @theoriginalthinker9199
      @theoriginalthinker9199 Месяц назад

      @@SyncopateTheShot I never said they were exactly alike. Gottfried can hit over the ball, though.

  • @angeloronzoni
    @angeloronzoni Месяц назад

    historical outfits!

  • @SyncopateTheShot
    @SyncopateTheShot Месяц назад +3

    Stockton was a cagey player. No weapon to blow you off the court, but a high tennis IQ. First time finding a video of him on RUclips.

    • @quentincrisp6933
      @quentincrisp6933 Месяц назад

      No one blew anyone off the court back then!

    • @rjamesyork
      @rjamesyork Месяц назад +1

      @@quentincrisp6933Connors, Tanner and Ashe would beg to differ

    • @quentincrisp6933
      @quentincrisp6933 Месяц назад +1

      @@rjamesyork So would Stockton‼ He has multiple wins against these players‼

  • @alberts2208
    @alberts2208 Месяц назад

    I recall bergelin borgs coach blamed WTT on the injury for over use.

  • @willritter4076
    @willritter4076 Месяц назад

    is this the same Dick Stockton who became a top NBA play-by-play announcer in the 90s?

    • @TomMarvan
      @TomMarvan Месяц назад

      No, different guy.

  • @RichardWelcher-p1h
    @RichardWelcher-p1h Месяц назад

    US open only major that has been played on clay, grass, hardcourts

  • @tomschmitz-dj1fg
    @tomschmitz-dj1fg Месяц назад

    I didn't know that borg retired in this match.... I was wondering all of these decades later, how Vilas won the entire tournament, since Borg had his number...

  • @michaelbroer6378
    @michaelbroer6378 Месяц назад

    A rare chance to see Borg wear the Fila Trezzan polo. Stockton is wearing the more famous Settanta made famous by Borg. I believe Borg cancelled his use of this shirt because he believed it brought bad luck to him.

    • @Tommy_007
      @Tommy_007 Месяц назад

      Maybe because it took him an hour to get it off?

  • @MrJeepsters
    @MrJeepsters Месяц назад +2

    Si Borg ne s'était pas blessé à la main, il aurait gagné le tournoi.

    • @leliondescavernes1747
      @leliondescavernes1747 Месяц назад

      Oui je l'ai toujours pensé, parce que Borg était réalité en très grande forme, vue son automne 77 étincelant (5 tournois remportés)

    • @philippeigoa7765
      @philippeigoa7765 4 дня назад

      Il etait blesse a l'epaule, pas a la main.

  • @lancer3412
    @lancer3412 Месяц назад

    More gold.I remember watching ths match in 1977. Surprised at no announcers. Borg had a bad shoulder. He's clearly serving pretty softly.

    • @ripperduck
      @ripperduck Месяц назад +1

      This is CBS’s televised feed which they shared with other networks. It’s not practical to have foreign networks setting up their cameras bc there’s only a few locations in the stadium that can be used, so I’ve network does the televising. The other networks use their own announcers..

    • @lancer3412
      @lancer3412 Месяц назад

      @@ripperduck I know it's CBS's feed because it's their graphics. In 1977, I don't think any foreign networks were taking their feed to show a 4th round match on labor day which is when this match was played. That started more in the 80s, I believe.

  • @alexandermayer2026
    @alexandermayer2026 Месяц назад +4

    Stacks was a great player. His passing shots were just a bit below his overall level. And he might have had the best overhead in tennis. The skill level required to play with those rackets was double what it is today; the racket then was the size of today’s sweet spot. And our strings were able to impart about half the topspin. Golf has done a much better job of monitoring equipment. The counter-puncher, touch player was forced into oblivion. And the touch and technical skills of today’s players have deteriorated and, in many cases, don’t exist.

    • @michaelbroer6378
      @michaelbroer6378 Месяц назад +1

      No wonder people are going to pickleball! Pickleball has what tennis used to have and that is a net game.

    • @lancer3412
      @lancer3412 Месяц назад +1

      The overhrad is the first thing that I think of with Stockton. Like you said, maybe the best at the time. Grear juinor player. Way better than Connors in the juinors.

    • @nala3038
      @nala3038 Месяц назад

      @@lancer3412I’m thinking you failed Spelling 1A.

    • @alexandermayer2026
      @alexandermayer2026 Месяц назад +1

      @@lancer3412 I am the same age as Connors. In spite of the opinion of most, we know Connors had it. When he got to semis of the Pacific Southwest at the LATC our last year in the juniors, we were not surprised. Connors single-handled ushered in the crushing return and changed the game forever. We lived with that from the age of 11.

    • @alexandermayer2026
      @alexandermayer2026 Месяц назад

      @@michaelbroer6378 au contraire. Pickleball forces play from no man’s land. And watch older people bend over at the waist reaching into the forbidden kitchen. It is a back destroying nightmare with people falling over all the time. You can’t put pickleball into the category of a sport; it is a beach game elevated by prize money. And an unstrung paddle offers no feel for the skilled. Most the best pickleball players are failed tennis players. If it weren’t for the fad of pickleball, they would be unhappily teaching tennis. Ping pong is 10x the game, skill-wise and athletically. Pickleball is a dumbed down replica of a sport, much like our schools are being dumbed down. Great place to meet members of the opposite sex though.

  • @trafyknits9222
    @trafyknits9222 24 дня назад

    4-dimensional "Pong"

  • @maxxbenzz7842
    @maxxbenzz7842 17 дней назад

    20:33 The balls sound like they are coming off a toy racquet. I wonder what tennis will be like 50 years from today. Hmmm

  • @jdm839
    @jdm839 Месяц назад +1

    I remember this match. He most likely would have won the tournament if he hadn’t hurt his shoulder. He was in top form in 1977 and used to beat Vilas like a drum on clay. Crazy that he couldn’t play Roland Garros that year because Roland Garros wouldn’t allow WTT players to play the tournament.

    • @lancer3412
      @lancer3412 Месяц назад

      That was only 74 where they banned the players. The schedules ccnflicted. It wasn't like Wimbledon where WTT took a break. Roland Garros and WTT were going on at the same time. Borg chose the WTT money over the French just as Evert did several times. Well, a player could do both if they could arrange a 3 week break from WTT. i know Nastase did both at least one year, maybe 1977.

    • @jdm839
      @jdm839 Месяц назад

      Ah thanks for the clarification

    • @lancer3412
      @lancer3412 Месяц назад

      @@jdm839 No problem. The French was not as big a deal back then. No doubt still a slam, but certainly not the prestige it later attained. Can you imagine Nadal skipping the French for any amount of money?

    • @philippeigoa7765
      @philippeigoa7765 4 дня назад

      He would've won Roland Garros as well !

  • @pauljohnson6019
    @pauljohnson6019 Месяц назад

    Good Lord, Borg aged like spoilt milk, he looks 70 years old now!

    • @egrorian1
      @egrorian1 Месяц назад +2

      Borg isn't far off 70 at 68 years old - I'd say he is aging very well.

    • @pauljohnson6019
      @pauljohnson6019 Месяц назад

      @@egrorian1 The man has white hair- that's even worse than grey! When you go grey or white, you can't age well- that's a contradiction!

    • @JD-jc8gp
      @JD-jc8gp Месяц назад +1

      @@pauljohnson6019 nonsense

    • @pauljohnson6019
      @pauljohnson6019 Месяц назад

      @@JD-jc8gp Then stop aging and prove it. ✔️

  • @ST-xg3gy
    @ST-xg3gy Месяц назад +1

    Glad umpires don't start matches in this overly formal manner anymore. And that robot voice, ugh.

    • @binkyxz3
      @binkyxz3 Месяц назад

      yea, who needs civility and decorum