Ah... where were you when I needed you? :-). Being a large and lanky lad, I long ago swapped the original LR wheel in my '95 110 for a Momo. But the adapter! Back and forth with the suppliers (them in UK, me in Cape Town) to get it to fit. All sorted now, but what a palaver. Can you believe, I can now drive with the window rolled up?
New to having a defender, didn't realize there was cancellation for the indicators untill now. Previous owner had fitted aftermarket steering wheel which didn't have a long enough poky bit to reach the blue ring, it does now. Cheers for sharing.
If you can get the wheel off, it may be as simple as inserting a pin in a hole. The pin is typically a hollow type with a slit in it. There might be two holes for pins.
excellent advice, I changed my steeringwheel some time ago and forgot the cancellation ring, which went with the old wheel in the bin. I didn't understand why my indicators didn't switched off, now I know, thanks a lot.
Good explaining.. Im looking for some new sterring wheel with security quick release..form 91 defender..DA8883 and DA 8882.. is $600.00+.. good job mike . Thank you
Our 2000 TD5 was bought last year and the indicators have never cancelled. I just thought it was another quirk of driving a Defender as it's our first one :-) Time to take the steering wheel off and have a look, I think.
Another great video Mike, yet more of the hidden mysteries of Landrover revealed. Please keep up the good work. Stay safe. From your old mucker, Yorkshire Rob.
just the sort of info I needed for ages. (but too lazy to count the splines :) ) Handy tips. I've kept the old defender (1985) wheel which is a larger diameter for a manual steering box, although I've since fitted a power steering box from a range rover classic... shhh don't tell the purists... another nugget of good info , thanks.
Always interesting and entertaining. Just to underline that Defenders seem to have been equipped with “whatever” was supplied at the time. I researched various forums and concluded that for my 2011 90 van I would need a 48 spline boss. Not so. Mine is a 36 spline. My advise after paying a £30 restocking fee, is to take the wheel off and count before ordering your wheel.
Great video Mike. Have just been out and swopped the indicator ring from my old wheel to the new one (I didn't know you could!!) It works perfectly many thanks..
Another great informative video! It took me ages to work this out myself after picking a steering wheel up at a auto jumble sale, Yes i picked up a 48 spine when i needed a 36 spline.
made my own puller out of a bit of key steel turns out the type A steering wheel for the perenties use M6 threads for the puller i also put a cup head bolt into one of the holes to lock the nut for the steering wheel into place cant come undone with out removing the cup head bolt first
Very informative video. Also caught my attention to a issue with the cancellation ring on my Disco 1. I think that at some point the steering wheel had been off and the blue thingy was not correctly aligned. When recentering from a left turn the cancellation works ok-ish, but from a right turn, no dice. Thanks Mike PS: On a side note on one of your R380 videos you mention that the reverse gear switch wires are easily broken if badly handled. Top tip: a dab of liquid electric tape or self vulcanizing tape around the wires and the rear part of the switch. It isolates, protects and allows for flexing.
Mike - I replaced my 36 spline wheel on my 1991 as it was huge (kept it though) and replaced it with a quick release slimline boss from Optimill race products (£72) and a Momo steering wheel (cheapest on Amazon at about £100). It’s super easy to put on and remove, provides more space for driving / maintenance and it a slight theft deterrent too (provided they don’t carry mole grips...!). Keep up the good work! Pete
Very concise Mike. When I bought our '89 90 (Ebay special!), I thought the steering wheel wasn't the right type for the year. On inspection, the previous owner had used a 48 on the 36 spline and tightened it down by friction with the nut! This was after I had driven it home from Birmingham to Basingstoke! Eeeek!
My 92 defender had a nice 48 spline fitted when I bought it, it was not pointing straight, I discovered at that point it was a 36 spline column as it spun on full lock - what a dangerous bodge! Needless to day I didn't drive it till it was replaced.
I had a similar problem here in the England with my 1999 Defender 90 CSW. The original wheel was getting tatty so I purchased a almost brand new wheel that had come off one of the last produced CSW models. It was leather trimmed and looked very good and would have improved the interior of mine a great deal. It cost a lot of money also. I didn’t know anything about there being two different spline sizes and unfortunately it doesn’t fit mine as I need a 36 spline! 😢
Hi iv just watched this video about the stearing wheel the third wheel you were showing and explaining the thread wasn't metric, that's because it's a type from a classic range rover so if any help for people to save money look for the range rover one and just change the senter push on bit for the defender one. Hope this was helpful 👍
Hi Mike, thanks for the great, informative, accurate and detailed videos!!! but can you PLEASE get a video light of some sort to light the items you are working on? Would make it better for my terrible eyesight. PS, i have had a LOT of trouble with the cancellation actions; when turning right, it cancels before i have turned the corner (ie, when turning towards the right hand (only) corner, not straightening up), i have tried three different switches so far and all do the same thing. Any suggestions? I feel like the switch assembly is pushed onto the column too far??? Keep up the great work please :) Thanks
Hey Mike! Nice video! I used a 48 spline colum now for my series 3 power steering setup and the wheel fits great. Have you ever changed the bottom bearing on one of these? I can't find a bearing in the right dimensions sadly... Best wishes!
Do you know what the splines are for a Range Rover Classic steering wheel? Both the four spoke wheel and the new two spoke Defender wheels you have look the same as the RRC from the late 1980s/early 1990s.
Really useful info Mike. Wish I'd had all this to hand when I was considering fitting an after-market wheel on my 1995 300 Tdi CSW. In the end I decided not to, for various reasons which is another story. Just out of interest, have you encountered any problems with Lucas (Land Rover OE) steering column indicator/horn switch units? I went through a batch of replacements - on the first the horn button didn't work; but on all of them the stalk switch would not latch in position when turning right. We discovered the springs were soft on one side and I had to trim away the rubber gaiter to remove the tiny bit of extra pressure that was causing it to unlatch prematurely!
Here in the uk , almost no Land Rovers / defenders have the proper steering wheel on there all quick release aftermarket , also hearing each car described by the engine it was originally assigned with is crazy as most have had numerous engine swaps
@@BritannicaRestorations yeah I know that , I’ve just never heard it said that way before (my comment wasn’t supposed to come across as being critical) also I do have the original 36 spline on mine for a 1985
That’s a huge exaggeration. Most have their original steering wheels. Some have aftermarket wheels like Momo or cheap copies, and only some of those have the Optimill type removable boss. Likewise engine swaps - it’s not uncommon, but the vast majority of Tdi and later vehicles run the original engine spec, the bulk of conversions being 12J to Tdi, but I wouldn’t want to claim that most of those had been changed. Lots, certainly, but I don’t know if most of them were.
@@nickboylen6873 there is absolutely nothing wrong with the conversation that wasn’t really my point , I was just trying to say compared to what we see in the UK all the defenders on this channel seem to be fairly standard , what you have said is what I agree with most pre TDI’S have been swapped for tdis
Brilliant! I've been looking for a while to find out what size the removal bolts are! 1/4 UNF. Nice! If the steering wheel wasn't exactly straight, does the blue plastic ring still go directly to the stalk?
I was about to argue at the screen over TD5 steering wheels, then @ 1:45 when you unwrapped a brand new one just like the one in my 2004 One Ten. Actually, it looks like a stitched leather rim on yours, which I've not seen before.
Thank you for sharing your experience helping people. My car 95 with vin MA957074 With B wheel I plan to put A wheel 4 spock. It's possible what the right easy modification. Waiting your reply ASAP.
@@BritannicaRestorations thank you for your quick reply and interest and patience. Spline different only from upside down side in box steering its same. Only steering column with 36 spline. Best regards,
14th. Sept. 2019 you did the wheel extraction video, infact it's a very good prequel to this video, for those of us who like hitting things with hammers.
hello mike.talk about clowns at Solihull why so many steering wheels for a defender, ? one wheel should fit the lot,ask yourself how many wheels for the series 3,? all at Solihull will get a job at Chipperfields Circus as clowns.
This video has saved me so much trouble and money.
my husband loved your video
Great!
I really quite like the early wheel no foam to degrade
🤦🏻♂️ I was wondering why my new Lucas indicator wasn’t working right!! I probably didn’t line up the little blue collar correctly. Thank you sir!!!
Forty years ago, when I had a Mini, I had the steering wheel nut loose so I could take the wheel off for more room for late night activity! 😂🤣
Right on!
Ah... where were you when I needed you? :-). Being a large and lanky lad, I long ago swapped the original LR wheel in my '95 110 for a Momo. But the adapter! Back and forth with the suppliers (them in UK, me in Cape Town) to get it to fit. All sorted now, but what a palaver. Can you believe, I can now drive with the window rolled up?
Thanks for the tip on cancellation ring placement. I had to correct the positioning of the wheel and buggered the cancellation feature.
Great job!
New to having a defender, didn't realize there was cancellation for the indicators untill now. Previous owner had fitted aftermarket steering wheel which didn't have a long enough poky bit to reach the blue ring, it does now. Cheers for sharing.
If you can get the wheel off, it may be as simple as inserting a pin in a hole. The pin is typically a hollow type with a slit in it. There might be two holes for pins.
excellent advice, I changed my steeringwheel some time ago and forgot the cancellation ring, which went with the old wheel in the bin. I didn't understand why my indicators didn't switched off, now I know, thanks a lot.
Glad it helped
Thanks for explaining which spline fits which year save me a lot of searching.
No problem!
Your videos are brilliant! Such great info ! Thank you !
Glad you like them!
Good explaining.. Im looking for some new sterring wheel with security quick release..form 91 defender..DA8883 and DA 8882.. is $600.00+.. good job mike
. Thank you
That's expensive!
Our 2000 TD5 was bought last year and the indicators have never cancelled. I just thought it was another quirk of driving a Defender as it's our first one :-) Time to take the steering wheel off and have a look, I think.
Sounds like it!
Another great video Mike, yet more of the hidden mysteries of Landrover revealed. Please keep up the good work. Stay safe. From your old mucker, Yorkshire Rob.
Cheers Rob!
just the sort of info I needed for ages.
(but too lazy to count the splines :) )
Handy tips.
I've kept the old defender (1985) wheel which is a larger diameter for a manual steering box, although I've since fitted a power steering box from a range rover classic... shhh don't tell the purists...
another nugget of good info , thanks.
Thanks!
Great info as usual, thanks for the brilliant videos.
Glad you like them!
Always interesting and entertaining.
Just to underline that Defenders seem to have been equipped with “whatever” was supplied at the time.
I researched various forums and concluded that for my 2011 90 van I would need a 48 spline boss. Not so. Mine is a 36 spline. My advise after paying a £30 restocking fee, is to take the wheel off and count before ordering your wheel.
36 spline is 11/16 and the 48 spline is 3/4 inch
Great video Mike. Have just been out and swopped the indicator ring from my old wheel to the new one (I didn't know you could!!) It works perfectly many thanks..
Glad to help!
Another great informative video! It took me ages to work this out myself after picking a steering wheel up at a auto jumble sale, Yes i picked up a 48 spine when i needed a 36 spline.
Glad it helped!
made my own puller out of a bit of key steel turns out the type A steering wheel for the perenties use M6 threads for the puller i also put a cup head bolt into one of the holes to lock the nut for the steering wheel into place cant come undone with out removing the cup head bolt first
Interesting, but what was more interesting was the beer barrel contraption in the background. Homebrew? 🍺🍺🍺🍺😀
Yes - gravity fed - no pumps!
@@BritannicaRestorations Nice. It'll be the stuff that makes you feel absolutely fine, until you try and stand up. 👍🍻
Good point on the cancelation ring arrow.
P.S There's a nut behind every steering wheel :)
Great point!
Very informative video.
Also caught my attention to a issue with the cancellation ring on my Disco 1. I think that at some point the steering wheel had been off and the blue thingy was not correctly aligned.
When recentering from a left turn the cancellation works ok-ish, but from a right turn, no dice.
Thanks Mike
PS:
On a side note on one of your R380 videos you mention that the reverse gear switch wires are easily broken if badly handled.
Top tip: a dab of liquid electric tape or self vulcanizing tape around the wires and the rear part of the switch. It isolates, protects and allows for flexing.
Mike - I replaced my 36 spline wheel on my 1991 as it was huge (kept it though) and replaced it with a quick release slimline boss from Optimill race products (£72) and a Momo steering wheel (cheapest on Amazon at about £100). It’s super easy to put on and remove, provides more space for driving / maintenance and it a slight theft deterrent too (provided they don’t carry mole grips...!).
Keep up the good work!
Pete
As I said Pete - some want the original look
Very concise Mike. When I bought our '89 90 (Ebay special!), I thought the steering wheel wasn't the right type for the year. On inspection, the previous owner had used a 48 on the 36 spline and tightened it down by friction with the nut! This was after I had driven it home from Birmingham to Basingstoke! Eeeek!
There are some real bodge artists in LR land!
again a great one ! so much knowledge - perfect ! cheers axel
Thank you! Cheers!
Very nice video, thank you for posting it!
Thank you too
Great video, some useful information as usual, thanks mate
Glad you enjoyed it
To confuse things even more, Series 3 Land Rovers have a 48 spline steering column.
Indeed the are!
And will a series wheel fit a defender?
@@tim8505 Yes, as long as it's a 48 spline column
I swapped to the Type C from the Type A in my 1989 110CSW, also the RR version of Type C will fit as will the flat RR centre pad.
My 92 defender had a nice 48 spline fitted when I bought it, it was not pointing straight, I discovered at that point it was a 36 spline column as it spun on full lock - what a dangerous bodge! Needless to day I didn't drive it till it was replaced.
Now that's what I call dangerous!
I had a similar problem here in the England with my 1999 Defender 90 CSW. The original wheel was getting tatty so I purchased a almost brand new wheel that had come off one of the last produced CSW models. It was leather trimmed and looked very good and would have improved the interior of mine a great deal. It cost a lot of money also. I didn’t know anything about there being two different spline sizes and unfortunately it doesn’t fit mine as I need a 36 spline! 😢
There you go - this is the confusion - the CSW needs a 36 spline
Hi iv just watched this video about the stearing wheel the third wheel you were showing and explaining the thread wasn't metric, that's because it's a type from a classic range rover so if any help for people to save money look for the range rover one and just change the senter push on bit for the defender one. Hope this was helpful 👍
Someone needs to do a video about modern steering wheels 9n this topic
Great at all!
Hi Mike, thanks for the great, informative, accurate and detailed videos!!! but can you PLEASE get a video light of some sort to light the items you are working on? Would make it better for my terrible eyesight.
PS, i have had a LOT of trouble with the cancellation actions; when turning right, it cancels before i have turned the corner (ie, when turning towards the right hand (only) corner, not straightening up), i have tried three different switches so far and all do the same thing. Any suggestions? I feel like the switch assembly is pushed onto the column too far???
Keep up the great work please :)
Thanks
I have one 36 spine like td5 s. Kiking round my garage. 👍
Wanna sell it?
@@BritannicaRestorations Since you told us how much it costs. Sorry not right now.
G'Day Mike
OMG Mike has gone WOKE, he has ONE RING TO CANCEL THEM ALL!!.............Yeah Yeah I know, shut the door on the way out! lol :D
lol!
Hey Mike! Nice video!
I used a 48 spline colum now for my series 3 power steering setup and the wheel fits great. Have you ever changed the bottom bearing on one of these? I can't find a bearing in the right dimensions sadly...
Best wishes!
Not yet!
I have a 2002 td5 station wagon butt mine have the steering wheel you say are a 300tdi (B)
I HAVE A 2010 WHEEL WITH 48 SPIGOS BUT I WANT TO INSTALL ONE OF 36 SPINES COULD TELL ME HOW COULD I DO I PREFER AN OLDER LOOK THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
I believe you will have to change the steering column as a complete unit
Great videos. What's the beer kegs for in the background?
My beer making machine
Do you know what the splines are for a Range Rover Classic steering wheel? Both the four spoke wheel and the new two spoke Defender wheels you have look the same as the RRC from the late 1980s/early 1990s.
Now which you decide to fixed and which one you think it's the best for defender. I like 4 spoke 36 spline
Really useful info Mike. Wish I'd had all this to hand when I was considering fitting an after-market wheel on my 1995 300 Tdi CSW. In the end I decided not to, for various reasons which is another story.
Just out of interest, have you encountered any problems with Lucas (Land Rover OE) steering column indicator/horn switch units? I went through a batch of replacements - on the first the horn button didn't work; but on all of them the stalk switch would not latch in position when turning right. We discovered the springs were soft on one side and I had to trim away the rubber gaiter to remove the tiny bit of extra pressure that was causing it to unlatch prematurely!
The stalks are all made in Taiwan today as far as I know - might as well buy a Britpart on as they are made there too
Here in the uk , almost no Land Rovers / defenders have the proper steering wheel on there all quick release aftermarket , also hearing each car described by the engine it was originally assigned with is crazy as most have had numerous engine swaps
It is a reference
@@BritannicaRestorations yeah I know that , I’ve just never heard it said that way before (my comment wasn’t supposed to come across as being critical) also I do have the original 36 spline on mine for a 1985
That’s a huge exaggeration. Most have their original steering wheels. Some have aftermarket wheels like Momo or cheap copies, and only some of those have the Optimill type removable boss. Likewise engine swaps - it’s not uncommon, but the vast majority of Tdi and later vehicles run the original engine spec, the bulk of conversions being 12J to Tdi, but I wouldn’t want to claim that most of those had been changed. Lots, certainly, but I don’t know if most of them were.
@@nickboylen6873 there is absolutely nothing wrong with the conversation that wasn’t really my point , I was just trying to say compared to what we see in the UK all the defenders on this channel seem to be fairly standard , what you have said is what I agree with most pre TDI’S have been swapped for tdis
Brilliant! I've been looking for a while to find out what size the removal bolts are! 1/4 UNF. Nice! If the steering wheel wasn't exactly straight, does the blue plastic ring still go directly to the stalk?
I wondered why my 300tdi isn't cancelling! It is either missing the ring, or its facing the wrong way!
Talking about Smarty tarty... the Isuzu has a (genuine) Lotus Steering wheel...
is there some way to fit the 4-spoke wheel on a 300tdi? Its the most beatiful wheel
You would have to fit the matching steering column - big job!
What kind of a job would it be to swap a 36 column for a 48 spline one, are they even interchangeable?
big job - I have a feeling it drops out from the engine bay - may hit the inner wings
Even my Puma got 36 spline - really irritating if you want a leater wheel - milions for sale but they are all 48 spline
Can you explain how to put a cancellation ring onto a 48 spine
Use a pair of circlip pliers
Could a boss adapter be manufactured to interchange between the different wheels.
Tricky
36 spline is 11/16 diameter and 48 spline is 3/4 inch diameter
I was about to argue at the screen over TD5 steering wheels, then @ 1:45 when you unwrapped a brand new one just like the one in my 2004 One Ten. Actually, it looks like a stitched leather rim on yours, which I've not seen before.
TD5 CSW wheel
& the XS Station wagon
@@BritannicaRestorations Indeed. My 110 is only a van so this wheel will never fit.
i like my NAS D1 wheel
Silly expensive it's only a steering wheel! You should make some of your badges for all the discovery 1s that have fallen off!;)
Good Idea!
Thank you for sharing your experience helping people. My car 95 with vin MA957074 With B wheel I plan to put A wheel 4 spock. It's possible what the right easy modification. Waiting your reply ASAP.
You have to change the steering column
@@BritannicaRestorations thank you for your quick reply and interest and patience. Spline different only from upside down side in box steering its same. Only steering column with 36 spline.
Best regards,
I can’t get my steering wheel off a 93 defender. Tried wiggling , hammering etc. A ton of wd40. It won’t budge :(
What type is it?
Only suprised the steering wheel extractor bolts were not Whitworth!
Probably BSF!
👍👍
I was hoping you were going to show how to use a steering wheel puller correctly, because, you are right, hitting it with a hammer - don't work!
I think I have done it before Dan
@@BritannicaRestorations ok, i'll have to dig through your previous videos, thanks
14th. Sept. 2019 you did the wheel extraction video, infact it's a very good prequel to this video, for those of us who like hitting things with hammers.
hello mike.talk about clowns at Solihull why so many steering wheels for a defender, ? one wheel should fit the lot,ask yourself how many wheels for the series 3,? all at Solihull will get a job at Chipperfields Circus as clowns.
Call yourself a Yorkshire man Mike? Extractor? Surely you mean eggs tractor? You are loosing your accent!