So far, great job on the project. It's the "Baby Bear" of Chris Chan documentaries. - GenoSamuel and Sachumo are awesome, too but Geno's the Papa Bear while Sachumo is the Momma Bear. Yours is "Just Right".
I’m more than impressed that not only did you manage to meet the Chan but got to actually hang out and delve deeper into their psyche. I also appreciate the level of respect given despite Chris’ many faults.
His story makes me so sad and simultaneously angry. As someone who’s spent a decade and a half working with individuals with developmental disabilities, working in various group homes and facilities, Chris’ parents were ill equipped to care for him in their older age, and he would have possibly done better in a group home with a support coordinator and an IEP and vocational rehab. Instead, he was left to use the internet and be subject to manipulation and trolling
Indeed! What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'. As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.". As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?". I heavily encourage you to watch these 6 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/e3KvwJjUrUM/видео.html. Also, I don't know where the idea that Chris said they are claiming to be transgender in order to get with lesbians came from, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's true. There is potential evidence that Chris is legitimately trans. In an old email thread between Chris and PandaHalo, Chris said that they had always identified more with girls and that they wondered if they should have been born as a girl. You can find this in the CWCki article about Chris's transgenderism. However, I won't say that this is definitive proof that Chris is trans, because the points that the RUclips user GiBi made in his video "A Discussion About Chris Chan's Gender", and the points that the RUclips user TheZiros made in said vid's comment section have a lot of merit.
I hope Sammy classic Sonic fan is doing okay, his parents did the right thing by taking away his platform before trolls could further bully the child- to prevent him from turning into Chris chan 2.0
@@homosexualitymydearwatson4109 He is actually doing pretty well and he's actually high-functioning, whereas Chris is medium-functioning, and lacks the additional mental issues that Chris has. He did a video with Chadtronic.
I'm still confused and angry about how when he was a kid his parents refused to enroll him in a special school Where he would have been tended to by people specifically trained deal with mental disorders and interact with kids in similar circumstances
he raped a dog to dead and then unburied several times it to further rape it and in an episode of tard rage he grabbed his cat from the hind legs and smashed it against the wall killing it
It’s makes the “Dimensional merge is happening now!” Thing a whole lot sadder. He didn’t just wanna “hang out” with his characters, he thought he would see his dog again.
This guy sure doesn’t like being called gay, I just hope he doesn’t ruin what little reputation he has and burn bridges with the one person who can stand him in retaliation!
I agree, them destroying the medallion was sad & honestly a bit too far. A little trolling is fine, but Chris-chan obviously put a lot of love & care into the medallion & it didn’t need to be broken.
he raped a dog to dead and then unburied several times it to further rape it and in an episode of tard rage he grabbed his cat from the hind legs and smashed it against the wall killing it
Yup. People who are secure in their sexuality don't feel the need to constantly prove their sexuality. It's very telling that he felt he had to. In fact, looking at where he is today, it's not a surprise at all...
I have been kicked out of college, disowned by my family, homeless and can confirm I'd rather go to jail repeatedly than become anything like Chris chan
@@iguanaboi3921 All of them. He was already persona non grata with his family, but while he had enough contact to have somewhere to go when the protective order was issued, they turned him away when they found out why. He was technically homeless for a brief period due to the emergency protective order, and I will die on that hill :P
Though the fact it started with "He drew his dog as an anthro version, and took her to his bedroom..." made me suck air through my teeth. Thankfully it stayed mostly fine.
It made me shed a tear. I watched the first episode and thought that he was a crappy person, but the attitude of bearing signing the euthanasia of the dog and giving it goodbye was a very moral thing to do.
I have autism as well and I’ve led quite an unhealthy lifestyle. That is until I learned about Chris Chan now I do everything I possibly can to avoid becoming like him
I've gotta give him mad props though. For the amount of times he probably wore that collared shirt throughout his 20s, he managed to keep it pretty near spotless. I'd assume there would be soda and pizza sauce stains all over it
He unearthed it years later with the intention of selling it, because he was under the delusion that his possessions were worth value. It looked like crap and tried to re-seam it, it still looked like crap.
So very true, It was all oh so real and dramatic for our Hero. This was Fantasy made real , "Chris Chan" a true story of unrequited love and dastardly deception.
I'll never get tired of that picture of Chris and Megan. I've never seen someone look like they needed help so desperately while maintaining composure.
Well Megan has gone on record as saying if Chris ever comes near her again she has guns. Given that in the conversations around one of his drawings of her he essentially implied that it was either he drew her lewdly or he would assault her in real life.
@@Mortablunt he would be stupid enough to contact her a place to say. I could see the headlines, internet train wreck goes to victims house to stay and she pumps hot led in his ass❤️🤣🤣
@@Mortablunt yeah I remember that in geno doc, but I laugh at how it was basically "Hey Megan, I know it's been awhile but-" "I have guns" "Never mind "
I will admit that Chris' eulogy to Paddy made me feel a little emotional. Chris really loved that dog, and while his decision to turn her into a furry was... weird... I do believe that he really missed her and he was only trying to cope with her death.
Also his eulogy to his beloved dog made me feel a little emotional too (It didn’t make me cry it just made me feel sad) because I can sympathize with people who have lost their dogs as I know how it feels having lost my cairn terrier Milly and it HURTS I tell you one of the worst days of my life (I rather not go into details but all you need to know is that she was put down too and that I really wanted to clone her) it’s one of the only times I will NOT laugh at someone’s misery as I don’t mind laughing at the misery of people I don’t know but I will NEVER laugh at someone losing their dog.
@@Mario87456 well I can see your point, recently the dog owned by my sister died of old age, and while he was not my dog I still felt horrible because I grew up around him and I was really attached to it, I don't usually cry when thinking about death but seeing him suffer due to his age was just unbearable, this is why I can empathise with this older version of Chris... knowing how he treated his recent pets was sad tho, I feel bad for them
I think we are presently living in the era of RUclips video essays that are nearly the level of HBO documentaries. I’m not even kidding this is so well made and so horrifying
'Unfortunately Chris did not see through the lie, and sent multiple naked pictures of himself to the impostor of his already fake girlfriend. This led to September 11th.'
Until about a year ago, I really thought ChrisChan was some kind of 4Chan creation. They seemed way too "perfect" of an avatar for certain websites to be a real person, as they seemed both utterly pathetic and absolutely abominable. And yet, here we are. This person actually exists.
@@adamlucas2203 Given all that’s happened to him, he couldn’t even come out and say it was all a troll saga even if he wanted to. But god damn, he’d get a gold star A for committing to the bit if it was just trolling.
@St. Anselm's Fire What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'. As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.". As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?". I heavily encourage you to watch these 6 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/e3KvwJjUrUM/видео.html. Also, I don't know where the idea that Chris said they are claiming to be transgender in order to get with lesbians came from, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's true. There is potential evidence that Chris is legitimately trans. In an old email thread between Chris and PandaHalo, Chris said that they had always identified more with girls and that they wondered if they should have been born as a girl. You can find this in the CWCki article about Chris's transgenderism. However, I won't say that this is definitive proof that Chris is trans, because the points that the RUclips user GiBi made in his video "A Discussion About Chris Chan's Gender", and the points that the RUclips user TheZiros made in said vid's comment section have a lot of merit.
After discovering Chris Chan and his life my biggest fear is that i am something like him and, like him, totally unaware of my problems. The scariest thing is that when you are in the middle of the game you cant see nothing.
I think people feel cringe when there is something you see in yourself that you don't like, usually cranked to 11. I can see why people thought Chris-chan was a troll herself, because it's almost like she is cringe in _every_ way a 4chan, ED or SA user would respond to., bad art, relationships, gender identity, lack of awareness, and on and on. And she kept coming back. And rather than admit they have some of her traits, some of those internet trolls chose to go after her instead, effectively harassing someone who clearly has something going on with her mentally. As long as you don't do that, you are probably healthy.
I’m pretty sure that your self awareness of whatever traits in Chris which resonate in you, means you are on your way to find and really take on board the support you may need. You may be in the middle of your own game, but you clearly see much more than you give yourself credit for. Keep going, may be tough much of the time but deep change is worth the pain👍🏾
I can empathize with that feeling. At the same time, if you're actually asking these questions, then you are demonstrating a level of introspection that doesn't even put you on the same planet as Chris-Chan.
I'm glad that more people are talking about the history with trolls. What Chris did was disgusting, but what the trolls did was disgusting too. There are no good people in this story and people seem to ignore the trolls crimes and only look at Chris. Posting someone's nudes online without their concent is revenge porn and that is insanely FUCKED UP.
@:::::::::::::: watch episode 10 of genosamuel’s Chris chan documentary then come back. The audacity (and sadism) you have to have to say that kid did nothing wrong is unreal
Agreed, the trolls honestly are awful. For as awful as the things that Chris did are, the trolls absolutely went way too far. Anyone who says otherwise has some serious issues.
@@raeishimura because of the sustained cruelty and clear signs of vulnerability of their victim, the trolls hold no moral highground. It's too bad there was nobody in Chris' life that could've intervened before anyone was victimized further. Like, not a social worker or an online witness or anything. I'm sure being catfished and severely fcked with only deepened the isolation and feelings the world had it out for Chris...SMH
I’m autistic myself and see many similarities between ways I used to act and the way Chris did. It’s fucking terrifying and makes me appreciate my parents despite them having fucked me up in their own special way. As disgusting of a person Chris Chan is, my heart broke for him when I saw the video of his medallion being destroyed, i know how much value sentimental objects can have and how much it must have hurt him to watch it be destroyed. In his position i likely would have not even watched the video after seeing the medallion and acted like it never existed in the first place, deluding myself further. The Life of Chris Chan is truly a fucking tragedy and hell not of his own making but certainly perpetuated by him
So his most beloved teacher once told him do not show weaknesses other will use them to push your buttons.... he proceeded to put on the internet all his weaknesses, and buttons available for pushing. The irony
This is one of those stories that you just think can't get worse, and yet it does. The rabbit hole keeps going and I don't know if I should be terrified or impressed
Relieved to see other people in this comment section who can relate to chris and fear that they may be as lacking in judgement and self-awareness as chris is. Growing up neurodivergent is hard, especially with parents who don't know how to handle it. Please remember: even if you're awkward and full of quirks, as long as you own up to your mistakes and aim for self-improvement, you're not like chris.
This. There's "awkward and quirky", and then there's "absolute disaster". I firmly believe most autistics, myself included, don't come anywhere NEAR "absolute disaster" territory. It's kind of shameful to me that CWC is what so many people, especially on the internet, think Autism is like. It can be, if you're so hilariously neglected or low-functioning you can't properly function like CWC, but most of us that are able to talk and function like the typical person are really no different than anyone else. We're just a bit twee and have a few more tweaks to make to work in a world that really isn't designed with us in mind. Even those of us that have lower functioning often have skills and insights that are just as valid, but the disorder becomes more of a disability and gets in the way of that. I compare it to running on Linux when everyone else is running on Windows or Mac - same functions, same abilities, different ways to do that and slightly more finicky controls. Someone high functioning is running on more RAM or mental space, perhaps, but that doesn't make the lower-functioning people less valid and worth respect. To expound on that analogy, if most Autistic folks, regardless of functioning level, are like Linux? CWC is like a malware-infested MS-DOS machine that someone took a magnet to the screen of a few times, let sit in a dusty warehouse, and nobody ever upgraded to the latest firmware. CWC is woefully behind on literally everything to the point that maybe they were considered high-functioning before, but now are so damaged they're basically as low-functioning as someone who is born with Autism and intellectual disability. CWC needs profound levels of aid to turn their life around at this point, because now they're 40. The brain and behavior patterns are set. There's not much that can be done to change the guy, only to care for them now. Not only is it harder now for CWC to learn better,, but now, CWC is even less inclined to want to learn, and that's truly tragic.
@@ElyOtto of course i know that. I'm asking for help because i still hadn't got much time to do that. That's why if someone can spare some time write down a sentence or two in compressed form of the details and about what the man had done. I'd be very thankful If you can't, it'll also be ok! Not a problem at all
this whole thing is just so miserable. i wonder to what extent chris understands the world. i know autism can have varying levels of severity, so at what point can you blame personal responsibility? so much abuse online, just to poke someone with a stick to get a laugh. but now we cant feel bad for chris anymore after what he did to his mother. just awful. its just a miserable story with a miserable end.
I’d say they have to take responsibility after the countless warnings to get help. Instead they invested more into there comics which worsened the problems they already had before being online. They had people who where willing to try giving them help but, each time they failed to realize the things that ended majority of them in the first place, not to mention they literally tell them the reason why friendship ended. I think the online abuse sure may have been a problem but all it really did in the end just fastened the problems they already had. They where to much in there own world , the online problems weren’t bad as you or I think. For them they never could fully understand, being stuck in there own delusion.
@@leonarex5540 You gotta understand most of the people who told him to get help were trolls, catfishers and people who had an antagonistic relationship. His parents always re-enforced his behavior and he was never given help.
@@Optimegatrongodzilla I stopped reading this when you insinuated Chris sees the world differently. He knew fucking his mom was wrong enough to try to hide it from people who were trying to help him
"Yet I do not regret drawing the drawing, because if I hadn't released my frustrations in this creative sense, I might actually have done something really dumb and stupid" The lack of self awareness here just hurts.
Another problem I found with Chris is that their parents or others around them never truly sat them down to tell them that things you see on TV, such as the axe body spray, won't magically give you a boyfriend free girl.
It's crazy to me that everyone can see through Chris's mental illness and disabilities in every way EXCEPT when he decides to call himself a woman 😂 Like, dude. Come on.
The thought of randomly exploring the mall and some guy in a long sleeve polo shirt screaming "noooooooooo" from the food court has me laughing like an idiot
The saddest thing for Chris was that Anna wrote that she thought he was an OK looking dude. So it's not like he was completely repulsive physically to women...if he had just had a better upbringing then just maybe he could have actually found what he was looking for all along and things wouldn't have spiraled into...what happened.
After an image search, he looks like an average person. He's not hot, but he's not ugly either. Not all photos are flattering, but you can make a lot of people look ugly in bad photos. But most comes down to personality.
Ah yes, nice insight uh... BubbleGumBabeFace??? Nice, my little cousin has a Barbie doll named Princess Bubble Gum. You two look like you have so much in common!
@@return7898 ah yes, nice,uhh insult disguised as something you think is profound or intellectual. I'd bet you would have more in a common with him than the original commenter
Channel is called “GenoSamuel2.1”. I’ve been watching consistently for almost a year and still haven’t caught up on all the episodes; good luck soldier
The comment about the 14-year-old not being able to participate because of "dumb laws" is a red flag so large that it could cover the milky way galaxy.
If there's one thing anyone should know about Chris, it is that there is no such thing as, "rock bottom" for him. He will always find a way to get worse, no matter how unlikely.
The whole Chris-Chan saga is just insanely tragic. Chris' actions aren't excusable by any means, but the more you consume the story, the more you see the dominoes that led to the present. Almost every step in this story is vile. It literally makes me feel sick when I see Chris try and do something he believes is good (even if what he's doing is actually terribly cruel/flawed/misguided) and then see the cycle of back-and-forth torture it breeds between him and those around him. And it's all exacerbated by social media's ability to unempathically spread interesting content. Chris is a sick person and so are the "trolls", but I mean that in a way that implies hope for healing. Despite their disgusting actions, I think having grace and empathy towards the people is so important if we want to keep things like this from happening. Again, bullies and abusers should NOT go unpunished, but when you only see the perpetrator as a perpetrator and not a human, I think it only pushes everyone into a worse place.
The lifestory of Chris Chan is such a disturbing, heartwrenching, & infuriating tragedy! What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'. As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.". As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?". I heavily encourage you to watch these 6 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/e3KvwJjUrUM/видео.html. Also, I don't know where the idea that Chris said they are claiming to be transgender in order to get with lesbians came from, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's true. There is potential evidence that Chris is legitimately trans. In an old email thread between Chris and PandaHalo, Chris said that they had always identified more with girls and that they wondered if they should have been born as a girl. You can find this in the CWCki article about Chris's transgenderism. However, I won't say that this is definitive proof that Chris is trans, because the points that the RUclips user GiBi made in his video "A Discussion About Chris Chan's Gender", and the points that the RUclips user TheZiros made in said vid's comment section have a lot of merit.
@@polocatfan Chris in incapable of understanding that they need help. What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend named Megan Schroeder, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a fully functional person. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'. As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.". As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?". I heavily encourage you to watch these 6 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/e3KvwJjUrUM/видео.html. Also, I don't know where the idea that Chris said they are claiming to be transgender in order to get with lesbians came from, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's true. There is potential evidence that Chris is legitimately trans. In an old email thread between Chris and PandaHalo, Chris said that they had always identified more with girls and that they wondered if they should have been born as a girl. You can find this in the CWCki article about Chris's transgenderism. However, I won't say that this is definitive proof that Chris is trans, because the points that the RUclips user GiBi made in his video "A Discussion About Chris Chan's Gender", and the points that the RUclips user TheZiros made in said vid's comment section have a lot of merit.
They called him gay, and he proved them wrong in the worst way possible. Edit: Thank you for finding my dull humor funny, also yes i know these types of edits are cringe i agree. Hope you all have a wonderful day.
@@chieludz No, the reason he even said he was trans was because he heard lesbians were getting “popular” at the time, so he became trans. Like bro I don't really care about the transgender thing, but at least have a reason instead of just wanting sex
The saddest thing about this story is, if you take out all the negative parts, it's the tale of an incredibly creative and artistically prolific kid. Sure, his work is painfully amateurish, but he's put out way more content than most of us. Too bad he didn't have more guidance.
he raped a dog to dead and then unburied several times it to further rape it and in an episode of tard rage he grabbed his cat from the hind legs and smashed it against the wall killing it
Gotta say I like how you're adding the developments of his comic based on his current mental status. That's something I wanted to know about without having to dive too deep into this pool
@@Lou-yf1jo Yeah but that's intentional bad because it's meant to look like a child's drawing. Chris's is literally just a 40 year old drawing like he did in preschool because he can't improve 😭
@@mattie1791 in the geno one, she came for cwc is episode 5 and episode 61 just got dropped if you want literally every detail check it out,if you want it abridged,stay here,they're both good
“The first time that CWCVille was presented as a religious afterlife” I had to stop mid-bite. The thought that at the end of it all, the break in the endless dark that is death, could be CWCVille made me feel a fear I had never known.
That may be the most terrifying possible truth of the universe. The truth not being Christianity, Atheism, Islam, Hinduism, or any other belief system, but rather the idea that the ultimate truth of the universe is that Chris was right all along.
@@TheOverachiever7 nice! Love Whang! This is a different kind of gross to me though. Apparently, it's mental stuff that gets to me. Like "maggot girl" doesn't really bother me but "messy tail" does because they obviously aren't well.
The worst part is that if Chris just didn't push as hard as he did, he would have succeeded in his love quest. I know a few autistic people who are married to non-autistic people, the difference is that they just didn't act nearly as weird as Chris did. Also, holy shit if that bit about his dog didn't hit hard. Like, goddamn. Despite being an awful person, for those few minutes I actually felt bad for Chris.
@:::::::::::::: I actually didn't know that. I definitely feel worse for the dog, because dogs are amazing, but I still do feel a little bad for Chris, even knowing he neglected it.
Autism is a very wide spectrum, there are autist that are so functional it is almost impossible to notice they have a condition, and there other autist that that even as adults soil themselves and can barely talk. Chris isn't a funtional autist, even if she claims that, that is a delusion her parents put on her head, I can't hate Chris because hating her for being what she is kinda feels like hating a paraplegic because they can't walk. Chris needed help when growing up and to be faced with the reality of her own limitations.
Yeah autism can be limiting, but Chris is an extreme case. My girlfriend is autistic and while it does affect her life and probably in turn our relationship, she isn’t this extreme. She’s a good, genuine person. Autism doesn’t mean you’re gonna be weird forever. She’s a relatively average person, i.e. she’s not going out holding up attraction signs or harassing people.
As someone with a form of autism I'm always fascinated by Chris. His story is like looking at an alternate version of myself if I ended up with a family that didn't care about me
everyone in the 2000's got called gay.... each of us dudes got called gay like 20 times a day if we grew up in the 2000's.... but we knew we werrent gay. chris, i dont think he knew for sure.
Yeah I certainly remember that vividly! It was just simply a word that we would often jokingly use and throw around like that to each other and even at anything. I think we can all thank South Park for giving us that idea whenever Stan, Kyle, Kenny and Cartman would call someone, something or each other gay in the show.
When I call something or someone gay now, it doesn’t mean that I think you are a male that like weenis’s. It can mean “this is dumb/boring/annoying/you’re a degenerate/disappointment”. It’s a multi-definitional word that holds a high place in english lexicon.
My theory on why Chris went trans is because he was tired of girls telling him they’re lesbians. If Chris became “Christine” and preferred women, it prevented women from playing the lesbian card.
That's the main reason why the Trans and LGTBQ+ community don't consider Chris as one of them. It's obvious that it was all just a plan for Chris to get a woman to sleep with him. Why would someone infamous for protesting gay relationships and transgenders suddenly back down on those statements and become one of them?
It's been debated for a while on calling him trans, it's not the first time people brought up the reason why he started to transition because of wanting to sleep with women not identifying as one.
The problem chris had is that their parents never told them that while it's nice to find someone you should also focus on yourself. If chris was encouraged more to overcome shyness and not worry as much maybe things might have turned out better.
I think all Chris ever did was self-focus and self-reinforce... I think that's the problem here: untreated autism so severe and carelessly exacerbated by the nurturing of Chris' most narcissistic traits, that it would eventually manifest itself as a sort of delusional sociopathy. If Chris wasn't so hilariously goofy, then incarceration and institutionalization would've come decades ago. Can you imagine a community College not expelling either one of us immediately? How about if one of us drove drunk to harass a business we'd been previously trespassed from, and then fled from the police after nearly running someone over? I mean, that one is especially infuriating and the state should be held responsible for failing to act there considering the chain of events afterward.
I think the saddest and most disgusting part of all this is that the internet has their laughs at his expense and torture of someone CLEARLY easily manipulated and guided, but wants to act surprised and shocked when he finally snaps and S.A. his own mother, as if they didn't have anything to do with his current mental state.
Agreed, you are speaking the truth here. He's not a good person, but one that we must understand is not the architect of his hell. And that people online are assholes who are worse than him.
im sure there was someone directly involved in that happening too. These videos downplay the involvement of "trolls". They are just as messed up as chris with their creepy predatory behavior.
@@A2Z83 charges or something needs to be brought against some of these people or at the very least exposed to everyone on the internet. I know it's been probably 10+ years and almost impossible to prosecute, but personally, I think if you're capable of sexually exploiting and manipulating a mentally handicapped person, everyone around you should know about it.
I haven’t seen anyone mention it, so I will- whoever is doing the voice acting/Chris Chan impressions in these videos is amazing, they capture his nasal, slow, depressed tone perfectly
15:21 i love that pic of Megan and Chris i love how uncomfortable she looks. like not even attempting to smile or put her arm around Chris or something. her face screams "i really wish i wasn't in this picture right now"
@@tawnystone1292 If there is one thing you can’t argue with though is that he genuinely cared for her in fact I heard that was the pet he was closest too.
No. He was not putting himself out there, He is the epitome of pathetic desperation. He disrespected all boundaries. It’s disgusting. I know he is autistic but he always knew better. Go get inspiration elsewhere. Pitiful….
He never showered, granted I don't usually actually wash my body (mostly my hair since I either can't find body soap or something to wash myself with, to be clear) and would always use ax body spray, so he must've spelled nasty
Everytime I hear about this guys story it makes me sick to the stomach, like I know it's funny because he's so easy to manipulate but it feels like an episode of Black Mirror. The internet was the only audience that would listen to his insane ramblings, feed his addiction, if that addiction went away he might've gave in to therapy or re-evaluating his life. But the internet is the audience that never dies.
One of the things that amazes me the most about Chris is he never got in trouble with some very dangerous people. Think about it, he’s so easy to manipulate and deceive, especially back in the early days of internet chat rooms. A dangerous person could’ve easily catfished Chris into thinking some young woman wanted to hook up with him, make him come around to one of his nearby hangouts and abduct him and never be seen alive again. If there really is such things as multiple universes, than this kind of reality could’ve been very frequent.
Maybe, but to what end? Chris doesn't have money, even at his apex of 'fame'. The only reason to kidnap and harm him is the mild notoriety it might get that person among a small community like 4Chan and Kiwifarms. That might be enough for someone, but I suppose not enough for someone to give it a go.
I mean ideally you wouldn't want to abduct or harm someone who would be easily noticed if they went missing. You think 4chan would just move on if one day he just disappeared
Actual dangerous people have better things to do than screw with a messed up autistic man child. However their kids on 4chan on other hand had a field day screwing with him as long as it didn’t backfire on them.
I'd argue the sociopaths fcking with her were pretty dangerous. Anything they asked her for, she complied. I imagine many met some sick need, sexual or otherwise from their interactions. I know it's cute to call this behavior "trolling," but to this extent it's sadistic and pathological.
Except there were dangerous people fucking with him. Think Bluespike, who forced him to shove his medallion up his anus, or more notably the Idea Guys who basically brainwashed him about the Dimensional Merge and many other things and helped in creating the modern Chris Chan.
Chris Chan is an undeniably awful person in so many ways. He also made things worse for himself by how he responded to trolls. But damn. The Internet really rose up to ruthlessly bully a developmentally challenged person.
@:::::::::::::: obviously r@pe is infinitely worse than bullying. However, that doesn't make bullying a developmentally challenged person an OK thing to do. More than one thing can be morally wrong at the same time.
Except for the fact that Chris uploads his acts of autism to the internet as if by instinct. He could have not done that and would have received no bullying. CWC is developmentally challenged, yet very prideful, which is why the internet doesn't feel bad about him.
I've watched a lot of documentaries about Chris Chan, but this one might be the best, especially with how you weave the original footage of you meeting with Chris throughout them. It puts it a step above people just using the same images over and over.
I'd legit be interested in a redrawing of CWC's comic by a professional artist without changing any of the storyline. Seeing the product of such a person's mental state has its own unique charm
I can't tell you how much, HOW MUCH I can relate to Chris' loss of Patti. I just lost my dog about three days ago. He was 13 years old and has been with me practically as long as I can remember. He was my best friend, he kind of felt like a brother or a guardian of sorts. I've always struggled with socializing and understanding others, be it social cues or subtext, and my dog was one of my few "escapes" from the crippling reality that I'll likely forever be this socially inept weirdo. I could come home and hide in my bed, but my dog would jump onto it and just lay down beside me, which always made me feel as though I had at least one person (or dog, in this case) that would always be there even when the entire world seemed to wish I never existed. I'm not posting this in an attempt to gain pity, nor am I trying to at all defend some of Chris' actions, but I suppose as a way of showing how you can relate to the most unexpected of peoples in the most unexpected of ways.
No one in a normal lifetime could be subjected to this much trolling, chris was biologically engineered to have as much online bullying directed to him as possible, its incredible really.
Props to the female voice talent. Had me feeling like Chris when she said "DONT TOUCH ME" Lol very convicting even if it was just a simple read. Very good vocal performance. And I couldnt take the part about his dog too serious because how goofy you read what Chris was saying lmaoo but i enjoyed it all it was hilarious the voice you were using lol. OVERALL 10/10 VIDEO! THANK YOU! Edit: Lmaoo "If I see one more Frickin pickle!" *Ominous music plays in the back*
It's a good docuentry but every time i watch it... I see a dark reflection of what could have been. I may accept my weird quirks with the wife. But ... seeing things like this makes me double take and check myself. To only learn I am a decent guy, not amazing, who made the dumb decissions like everyone. As someone with autism, I am glad I am who I feel like I am.
Agreed, the way in which Chris reminds me of how I used to be when I was a child is frightening beyond belief. I’m certainly less happy and possibly worse off for life going forward his issues, responses to them, and state of living during the 2019 visit to his house are fucking soul chilling, the man never learned something so basic that I can’t even place a name to it. In the next video he refers to his room as ‘organized chaos’, such a tiny and insignificant little phrase and it struck me to my core. No matter how different I may be from him, that’s how I described my room at one point In life, that’s the most point-to-able thing I can say off the top of my head but just listening to his story I’m continually reminded of how I could have been if I never gained self awareness
@@Enter54623 same man, I don’t have autism, but I do have… something. Doctors can’t say what exactly is wrong with me, but something is fucked up. Child me wis something that I just don’t want to think about, and I’m so glad I’ve changed.
@@kaanyldz4814 no? Chris was born in raised in very specific circumstances. He was born autistic, and he was raised by two very old people. I don’t know how many autistic children were born to old parents, but I can’t imagine that it’s that common.
I never really bothered to learn about Chris Chan until recently. I always assumed he was just some random guy the internet liked to make fun of/the guy who made Sonichu. But after learning more, let me tell you... it's one hell of a ride. As someone who struggled with social aspects in real life before, I can sort of see why Chris did the things he did before his rise on the internet. Unlike him, though, I usually just kept to myself without bothering anyone. I had a crush on a girl that went to my math class this year. I tried to ask her out, but she kindly revealed that she was a lesbian. So, while I never got the chance to be with her, I decided to just let her do her, and leave my crush on her behind for someone else. Once I learned about Chris' obsession with Megan, I kind of saw a mirror to me accepting reality compared to Chris' whole "coochie plan" as I like to call it. It made me think... what if I fell down the same path Chris went? It's kind of scary to think about. In fact, I'm noticing a whole lot of parallels between me and Chris, not just our romance problems. The fact that we're both obsessed with pop culture, born to parents of differing age gaps, and even writing dumb fanfics of our favorite video games. The similarities are too unnerving for me to NOT notice. I know there's a lot of people watching this series who are shocked to hear that they're similar to Chris Chan in many ways too. And I know they're afraid of being like him too. To those people, don't be afraid of who you think you are when you compare yourself to someone else. Just look at the little details inside you that make you different; make you who YOU are.
Well said. I definitely needed this reminder since I also see many aspects of myself in Chris Chan (big Sonic fan, influenced by anime, attached to nostalgia)
i always feel incredibly bad and i feel a lot of sympathy toward chris, especially when i watched the genosamuel docuseries about him, but even though his upbringing is messed up and alot of people bullied him he does alot of it to himself
That's true but his actions were still bad. It's hard to even say if he could get better since his autism seems pretty severe. I knew a person with just aspergers and he was incredibly smart school wise but would constantly poke people hard and be very hard to stand socially even though his parents tried giving him therapy. It's honestly really hard to take a stance on the matter (unless you're unsympathetic or just a troll with nothing better to do)
Honestly Chris' story is unbelievably tragic. In no way do I condone his behavior, but as with most people his personality and actions are created by his environment. People keep making fun of his ego and narcissism, but it's honestly really depressing and horrifying how he was isolated and educated so poorly that he could ever get to that point. While I knew the basic plot points of his life before this documentary series, this has really enlightened me to what an unbelievably poor road someone can go down to if they're never properly supported in their lifetime. I sincerely hope this guy gets help, or at least a peaceful life at the end of this docuseries.
Well, I hate to tell you that a happy ending is nowhere in sight! Last year, Chris got put in jail and as of February of 2022 is in a mental institution. The reason? Chris had sex with their mom! All of this shit could have been avoided and it's so goddamn disturbing, gutwrenching, & infuriating! What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'. As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.". As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?". I heavily encourage you to watch these 5 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html.
@@Optimegatrongodzilla that's just a wall of text mate. All based on the supposition that Chris has all these disorders.. that he's never been diagnosed with. Autism is his only known diagnosis in regards to mental health. And trust me, having worked with the disabled, they can be bad people too. Chris is a perfect example of that.
@@Optimegatrongodzilla I read your entire comment, thank you for the information! I myself have often wondered how much exactly are we allowed to judge and/or criticize people on the spectrum or with some greatly affecting mental illness in general. It’s really hard, because if someone - for example - has some kind of anger management issues, you can’t really blame them for that and it might not completely be in their control to change that, right? But then there’s also the problem with how much do you accept or tolerate? Should you really take someone’s shouting or harassment or abuse sitting down, if the other person is either physically incapable to stop or understand and change their ways? I do think the answer lies somewhere in the middle. I don’t remember their exact names, but some of Chris’ ”gal pals” probably had the best possible reaction (at least that they could have in such a situation): give him multiple chances to understand what he did wrong and try to help them process it, but if they genuinely aren’t able to and the bad behavior continues, you’re not obligated to receive the abuse in whatever mental situation they are in.
Chris' life is like a human tire fire you cant look away from. It just gets worse the longer it goes on and you cant stop it no matter how hard you try.
Well, the best way to stop a tire fire is to not fuel it. If people stopped harassing him it would have never got this bad. It amazes me that people don’t realize their acting just as bad as Chris. He’s clearly more autistic than people think he is “not that being autistic is wrong it’s just what I believe to be true.” The people who trolled them and are supposedly “shocked” he’d do something so horrible is either a lie or their just an absolute moron.
People watch Chris because it's impossible to believe that such a person could actually exist. He's like a real-life cartoon character. He's the culmination of every wrong decision imaginable throughout life.
@@stormwulf117 yes, but the trolls sold him the napalm. Both parties are in the wrong. I’m just referring to the trolls who can’t take responsibility for their actions. A lot of the extremely bad things he’s done, he had a troll whispering in his ear to do it.
What's funny is that I genuinely thourght that the pickle was supposed to only represent a pickle and never knew it was a allegory for 'penis', I only thought that Chris really hated pickles.
Patti’s death really hits home with me, as of the current time, just yesterday I saw my elderly cat Missy just drop dead and we found her body soaking in the rain. She was buried earlier today while I was still asleep but the trauma and self torture is really starting to settle in
I think everyone can relate to the loss of a pet, and that comic was done well, up until patti becomes a part of chris' world, and then it just goes back to his weird world of espacism
I’m not the best artist, though I can draw technical diagrams and blueprints. But Chris inability to improve even the most basic art work is absolutely shocking
it is just so bizarre someone like chris chan exists with a whole internet infamy where people go to his house for interviews and him being recognized at conventions and being talked about at conventions, it just boggles me that this is real and this happened to someone
Fathers need to be a lot more present in people's lives, holy fuck. If my son ever began bullying a disabled person like this, you bet your ass I would intervene.
All that because 2 boomers thought that getting special needs ed was like getting locked up at Arkham Asylum or something... It's too comical for all this to be real.
Highly doubt those classes would have helped. Even if he socialized it's always with other people like him and those classes are kept away from other kids in public schools. Don't think that would have been enough to fix w/e tf is issues are.parents definitely could have been alot better though that's for sure.
@@sselluoss5935 I feel like this goes beyond that. Because back in chris' days, ableism was basically the norm in a way to his parents side at least since they're older. But it's also probably ableism since they kept the classes away from each as you mentioned. The thing is, we don't know what would have happened if Chris got the care and help he needed so badly. Like it's very obvious, if his parents weren't complete piece of trash and raised him properly, Chris would be a far better person and wouldn't be the most documented person ever. I still to this day can't believe that something like this even exists and I've only discovered who Chris Chan is after the incident went viral if you know what I mean.
This series is a breath of fresh air compared to most other documents. Most Christorians usually read the cwci articles word by word, add their own insult, or sound brash about it. You take it professionally and even got to the point where you interviewed her yourself to boot. A side to documentation we barely see involving chris-chan. And you are also going from the beginning really well to where even I learned some new things I barely even knew and I have been down this rabbit hole for a good while. Great job TGFM look forward to the rest.
@@sweet_sukeban4022 Been watching the Comprehensive Documentary about Chris by GenoSamuel. While a lot of the trolls eventually matured and became Chris’ biggest advocates and guardians, it’s still a tragic tale for Chris. Serious Peter Pan syndrome, Autism, and whatever personality disorders that came with it. It was never gonna end well for Chris… as funny as some of it is, the more harmful stuff astounds me…
I tried my damndest to help the guy back in the day, he just wouldn't listen. I feel so bad for his life after the internet found him... I suspect he had been drowned so many trolls, I was just another voice
Coming from an autistic like myself, I kind of relate to Chris in some aspects. Just like him, I had a sheltered childhood, I’m lonely and desperately needed a companion, I even made my own series of homemade, amateur comic books. I was also admittedly ignorant and immature back then, which resulted in some unsavory stories I’d rather not talk about, although I was still a kid when I used to behave like that. Learning about Chris Chan’s story for the past couple of years taught me to be more self aware of both my disability and my actions. And as much as I don’t like Chris as a person, due to his ego, selfishness, and just how much of a repulsive human being he is, I still feel kind of feel sorry for him. His life is a never-ending series of train wrecks that both he, and trolls, did to himself. It’s sad, bizarre, and just pure insanity.
I think you’re better than him you have an understanding that you can always do with improvement and a wish to be accepted. Most importantly you don’t have the attitude that whatever you do is OK because It gets you what you want.
@@SquidwardSmellsGOOD734 wow so in a way bobs wish for chris and sonichu to be a ...er...'role-model' of sorts for autistic folk everywhere came to fruition!! but in all seriousness man empathy is a great thing and you sound like a far cry from chris. i feel for him too honestly. i wish you well :)
Watch part 3 here: ruclips.net/video/eewTeCROOBg/видео.html
My bet, is that there's gonna be 6 parts. One for everyday of the week.
So far, great job on the project. It's the "Baby Bear" of Chris Chan documentaries.
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GenoSamuel and Sachumo are awesome, too but Geno's the Papa Bear while Sachumo is the Momma Bear. Yours is "Just Right".
I’m more than impressed that not only did you manage to meet the Chan but got to actually hang out and delve deeper into their psyche. I also appreciate the level of respect given despite Chris’ many faults.
Don't forget to thank Chris Chan! 😊
Depth
The dramatics of the thumbnail just saying “They called him gay” is fucking hilarious
I wonder if it’s ironic or if thegaydudefromcars actually thinks being called gay is a terrible fate
Ikr this had me in tears what were they thinking
thegamerfrommars thumbnails are always unintentionally hilarious
@@seymourpant I think it has less to do with thamayorfromcars (couldn't think of anything better lol), and more to do with the videos subject
🤣
As a cartoonist myself its amazing to me to see someone draw this much and not improve one bit.
He's mentally disabled he can't getbetter
I drew stick figure comics on lined paper for 2 years and i upgraded i use printer paper now
Maybe because he has learning disabilities?
if anything I feel like he regressed in his art style.
You can't improve on perfection
“True love is illegal in Virginia!” Is almost funnier than “I fought autism and I won”
😂😂
Both sound hilariously absurd
Agreed. But, when did Chris say that?
@@peacockcrowe2718 on god.
The true love is illegal in Virginia is made worse with the whole incest thing
His story makes me so sad and simultaneously angry. As someone who’s spent a decade and a half working with individuals with developmental disabilities, working in various group homes and facilities, Chris’ parents were ill equipped to care for him in their older age, and he would have possibly done better in a group home with a support coordinator and an IEP and vocational rehab. Instead, he was left to use the internet and be subject to manipulation and trolling
Indeed! What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions.
What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person.
These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'.
As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.".
As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?".
I heavily encourage you to watch these 6 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/e3KvwJjUrUM/видео.html.
Also, I don't know where the idea that Chris said they are claiming to be transgender in order to get with lesbians came from, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's true. There is potential evidence that Chris is legitimately trans. In an old email thread between Chris and PandaHalo, Chris said that they had always identified more with girls and that they wondered if they should have been born as a girl. You can find this in the CWCki article about Chris's transgenderism. However, I won't say that this is definitive proof that Chris is trans, because the points that the RUclips user GiBi made in his video "A Discussion About Chris Chan's Gender", and the points that the RUclips user TheZiros made in said vid's comment section have a lot of merit.
I hope Sammy classic Sonic fan is doing okay, his parents did the right thing by taking away his platform before trolls could further bully the child- to prevent him from turning into Chris chan 2.0
@@homosexualitymydearwatson4109 He is actually doing pretty well and he's actually high-functioning, whereas Chris is medium-functioning, and lacks the additional mental issues that Chris has. He did a video with Chadtronic.
@@homosexualitymydearwatson4109 I Remember checking back a few years ago and saw he was still posting, seems like a pretty normal kid now
I'm still confused and angry about how when he was a kid his parents refused to enroll him in a special school
Where he would have been tended to by people specifically trained deal with mental disorders and interact with kids in similar circumstances
At 10, I was taught: "What would Jesus do?"
At 20, I taught myself "What would Chris-Chan do? Don't do that!"
Ha
Well, you aren't a lolcow so I guess that method is working.
@@whoknowswhocares885 😂😂
According to Chris, they’re both the same person.
If you were taught that at 10 thats fucked
Chris losing his dog and coping with the grief by having her live in his comics is probably the saddest thing of this entire saga.
All his stories make sense sad he clearly needs help and nobody was there to actually help him
@@Tacomans_56 true, his parents didn't care . Probably the only one that cared was one of his teachers
he raped a dog to dead and then unburied several times it to further rape it and in an episode of tard rage he grabbed his cat from the hind legs and smashed it against the wall killing it
I don't think Chris wanted help anyway
It’s makes the “Dimensional merge is happening now!” Thing a whole lot sadder. He didn’t just wanna “hang out” with his characters, he thought he would see his dog again.
This guy sure doesn’t like being called gay, I just hope he doesn’t ruin what little reputation he has and burn bridges with the one person who can stand him in retaliation!
Why have you been here for 15 hours before the vid lol
that would suck if he did that
@@jamesglover2251 it was most likely released early to some people then made public.
@you know this ruclips.net/video/SUCKMYBALLS/видео.html
FiNaLlY iT'S hErE DuRrRrRrRrR
@@TuberoseKisser it was a premier. You can make comments before the video actually comes out.
Two things legitimately made me feel bad:
1. The way Chris reacted when Paddy died.
2. The destruction of Chris's medallion.
I agree, them destroying the medallion was sad & honestly a bit too far.
A little trolling is fine, but Chris-chan obviously put a lot of love & care into the medallion & it didn’t need to be broken.
3. the whole blue spike saga
he raped a dog to dead and then unburied several times it to further rape it and in an episode of tard rage he grabbed his cat from the hind legs and smashed it against the wall killing it
@@Childishsadboyo It honestly looked pretty good.
the mouth fucking 💀
I love how most of his worst mistakes began with “in an attempt to reassert his heterosexuality”
Yeah LMFAOO and look where they ended now
Yup, like a lot of men.
I don't think it's funny. He ended up harassing ppl and much worse, raping his mother.
He made himself look like more of a closet case.
Yup. People who are secure in their sexuality don't feel the need to constantly prove their sexuality. It's very telling that he felt he had to. In fact, looking at where he is today, it's not a surprise at all...
I like how you saw people making fun of your thumbnail taglines and made them even more funny.
THEY CALLED HIM GAY!!!
Next time:
YOU WONT EVEN BELIEVE!
@@buzzfiend If it is the last one it would be more than accurate
@Skelly LAMBORGHINI PARKED OUTSIDE ITS PURPLE LIKE LEAN
BLAMED A BLACK GUY!!!
I could be kicked out of college, disowned by my family, homeless, and still be thankful I'm not Chris Chan.
I mean Chris is pretty much most of those things
I have been kicked out of college, disowned by my family, homeless and can confirm I'd rather go to jail repeatedly than become anything like Chris chan
I've been all of those and I'm fairly certain going through all of those things and worse is better than being Chris Chan.
@@iguanaboi3921 All of them. He was already persona non grata with his family, but while he had enough contact to have somewhere to go when the protective order was issued, they turned him away when they found out why.
He was technically homeless for a brief period due to the emergency protective order, and I will die on that hill :P
@@melodydantalionmellowastar1990 funny how all those thing apply to chris
The part about him taking Patty through the portal and her living there forever genuinely made me tear up. So innocent and sad.
Though the fact it started with "He drew his dog as an anthro version, and took her to his bedroom..." made me suck air through my teeth. Thankfully it stayed mostly fine.
Twisted as he is, even Chris has a heart.
It’s basically a sad fucked up coping mechanism
It made me shed a tear. I watched the first episode and thought that he was a crappy person, but the attitude of bearing signing the euthanasia of the dog and giving it goodbye was a very moral thing to do.
@@SirBlackReeds this is the funniest thing I read all day 😂😂
I have autism as well and I’ve led quite an unhealthy lifestyle. That is until I learned about Chris Chan now I do everything I possibly can to avoid becoming like him
Do you have a webcomic
@@bojanglespoonan8419 It sad not Webcomic. I doubt That autistic guy will become the New chris chan he's too smart.
@@bojanglespoonan8419 nope
Keep it going!!
I'm autistic but I'd rather kill myself then turn into that lunatic
I've gotta give him mad props though. For the amount of times he probably wore that collared shirt throughout his 20s, he managed to keep it pretty near spotless. I'd assume there would be soda and pizza sauce stains all over it
I assume he had multiples of it
His mom washed it with his DIRTY CRAPPED BRIEFS for him all the time. You know, before he oppressed his mom
@@Squirmychair lmfao like a cartoon character who has infinite amount of the same outfits in their closet
@@Squirmychair this
He unearthed it years later with the intention of selling it, because he was under the delusion that his possessions were worth value. It looked like crap and tried to re-seam it, it still looked like crap.
"May I orbit your belt?" and "The pickle man tricked me again." Are two of the greatest lines of dialog in all of human history!!
Smartest men in black reference I've ever seen. Chris' peak right there
So very true, It was all oh so real and dramatic for our Hero. This was Fantasy made real , "Chris Chan" a true story of unrequited love and dastardly deception.
my favorite one is one cobes says "I'm well within my rights as a autistic"
@@AmorAmor360 i like the "I fought autism and won" one as well
"CALL ME THE REAL NAME THAT GOD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO ME AND THE BEAR AT REGENCY SQUARE SHOPPING CENTRE..."
I'll never get tired of that picture of Chris and Megan.
I've never seen someone look like they needed help so desperately while maintaining composure.
Every time I see that picture, all I can do is wonder: What sort of unspeakable evil did that woman smell or see next to Chris?
@@TetsuNideji lots of b.o , axe body spray, fecal decay crust and Big Mac sauce.
Well Megan has gone on record as saying if Chris ever comes near her again she has guns. Given that in the conversations around one of his drawings of her he essentially implied that it was either he drew her lewdly or he would assault her in real life.
@@Mortablunt he would be stupid enough to contact her a place to say. I could see the headlines, internet train wreck goes to victims house to stay and she pumps hot led in his ass❤️🤣🤣
@@Mortablunt yeah I remember that in geno doc, but I laugh at how it was basically
"Hey Megan, I know it's been awhile but-"
"I have guns"
"Never mind "
This better be like ten hours long bro. Ain't no way someone can cover the tale of Chris Chan in under an hour
Im pretty sure it will get to 3 or 4 videos in total so Art can cover all Chirs saga.
this will be the second video, last one was roughly an hour, who knows low long the series will be
Have you watched Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History?
This a p2
That's why you read the books instead of just watching the movie.
I will admit that Chris' eulogy to Paddy made me feel a little emotional.
Chris really loved that dog, and while his decision to turn her into a furry was... weird... I do believe that he really missed her and he was only trying to cope with her death.
I don't view it as weird, but... Using the real name of it and making it blatant doesn't sit right with me.
He really did miss her because in contrast to a lot of deaths in his life he didn’t move on from it as quickly with other deaths he has experienced.
@@Mario87456
Does his father count?
Oh...
Wait...
He sold all his items and collections...
Also his eulogy to his beloved dog made me feel a little emotional too (It didn’t make me cry it just made me feel sad) because I can sympathize with people who have lost their dogs as I know how it feels having lost my cairn terrier Milly and it HURTS I tell you one of the worst days of my life (I rather not go into details but all you need to know is that she was put down too and that I really wanted to clone her) it’s one of the only times I will NOT laugh at someone’s misery as I don’t mind laughing at the misery of people I don’t know but I will NEVER laugh at someone losing their dog.
@@Mario87456 well I can see your point, recently the dog owned by my sister died of old age, and while he was not my dog I still felt horrible because I grew up around him and I was really attached to it, I don't usually cry when thinking about death but seeing him suffer due to his age was just unbearable, this is why I can empathise with this older version of Chris...
knowing how he treated his recent pets was sad tho, I feel bad for them
I think we are presently living in the era of RUclips video essays that are nearly the level of HBO documentaries. I’m not even kidding this is so well made and so horrifying
HBO sucks ass these days.
@@stormwulf117 sure dude :/
Can’t wait til HBO tries to match this quality…
Much better than the main stream docus, bloody hate the cringe animations they keep squeezing in to fill time.
yeah dude, thers so many great essays, documentaries, and shows on RUclips that are free and so well made! 👍🏻
'Unfortunately Chris did not see through the lie, and sent multiple naked pictures of himself to the impostor of his already fake girlfriend. This led to September 11th.'
I just snorted my bagel out of my nose 😂😂😂
Priceless
Fucking top kek
Well, that escalated quickly….
Until about a year ago, I really thought ChrisChan was some kind of 4Chan creation. They seemed way too "perfect" of an avatar for certain websites to be a real person, as they seemed both utterly pathetic and absolutely abominable. And yet, here we are. This person actually exists.
I think we've all been hoping that he'd say "haha it was a troll". I'm starting to think that won't happen though. Lol
By that nickname alone, I certainly didn't envision him as a fat white dude.
@@adamlucas2203 Given all that’s happened to him, he couldn’t even come out and say it was all a troll saga even if he wanted to.
But god damn, he’d get a gold star A for committing to the bit if it was just trolling.
@@adamlucas2203 He did say that once, he pretended to be a wealthy and successful business owner with a wife and kids
@St. Anselm's Fire
What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions.
What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person.
These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'.
As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.".
As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?".
I heavily encourage you to watch these 6 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/e3KvwJjUrUM/видео.html.
Also, I don't know where the idea that Chris said they are claiming to be transgender in order to get with lesbians came from, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's true. There is potential evidence that Chris is legitimately trans. In an old email thread between Chris and PandaHalo, Chris said that they had always identified more with girls and that they wondered if they should have been born as a girl. You can find this in the CWCki article about Chris's transgenderism. However, I won't say that this is definitive proof that Chris is trans, because the points that the RUclips user GiBi made in his video "A Discussion About Chris Chan's Gender", and the points that the RUclips user TheZiros made in said vid's comment section have a lot of merit.
After discovering Chris Chan and his life my biggest fear is that i am something like him and, like him, totally unaware of my problems. The scariest thing is that when you are in the middle of the game you cant see nothing.
I think people feel cringe when there is something you see in yourself that you don't like, usually cranked to 11. I can see why people thought Chris-chan was a troll herself, because it's almost like she is cringe in _every_ way a 4chan, ED or SA user would respond to., bad art, relationships, gender identity, lack of awareness, and on and on. And she kept coming back.
And rather than admit they have some of her traits, some of those internet trolls chose to go after her instead, effectively harassing someone who clearly has something going on with her mentally.
As long as you don't do that, you are probably healthy.
@@dalegaliniak607 he* *him
I’m pretty sure that your self awareness of whatever traits in Chris which resonate in you, means you are on your way to find and really take on board the support you may need. You may be in the middle of your own game, but you clearly see much more than you give yourself credit for. Keep going, may be tough much of the time but deep change is worth the pain👍🏾
I can empathize with that feeling. At the same time, if you're actually asking these questions, then you are demonstrating a level of introspection that doesn't even put you on the same planet as Chris-Chan.
I'm glad that more people are talking about the history with trolls. What Chris did was disgusting, but what the trolls did was disgusting too. There are no good people in this story and people seem to ignore the trolls crimes and only look at Chris. Posting someone's nudes online without their concent is revenge porn and that is insanely FUCKED UP.
@Sam no, it’s really not. They basically mentally tortured him for years, especially bluespike. The only remotely funny era is liquid Chris’s
Trolls funny. Chris..doinked his mom.
@:::::::::::::: watch episode 10 of genosamuel’s Chris chan documentary then come back. The audacity (and sadism) you have to have to say that kid did nothing wrong is unreal
Agreed, the trolls honestly are awful. For as awful as the things that Chris did are, the trolls absolutely went way too far. Anyone who says otherwise has some serious issues.
@@raeishimura because of the sustained cruelty and clear signs of vulnerability of their victim, the trolls hold no moral highground. It's too bad there was nobody in Chris' life that could've intervened before anyone was victimized further. Like, not a social worker or an online witness or anything. I'm sure being catfished and severely fcked with only deepened the isolation and feelings the world had it out for Chris...SMH
I’m autistic myself and see many similarities between ways I used to act and the way Chris did. It’s fucking terrifying and makes me appreciate my parents despite them having fucked me up in their own special way. As disgusting of a person Chris Chan is, my heart broke for him when I saw the video of his medallion being destroyed, i know how much value sentimental objects can have and how much it must have hurt him to watch it be destroyed. In his position i likely would have not even watched the video after seeing the medallion and acted like it never existed in the first place, deluding myself further. The Life of Chris Chan is truly a fucking tragedy and hell not of his own making but certainly perpetuated by him
Same brother, same. But at least I am not as bad as chris.
Do the world a favor and never breed, lmao.
@@trenthoward6800 Edge lord found, do not respect opinions.
@@ivanthehighman177 Lol you call that a rebuttal? How many train sets do you own and how many thousands have you wasted on legos?
@@trenthoward6800 you just threw a mindless insult at me and this commenter and deleted your own comment.
So his most beloved teacher once told him do not show weaknesses other will use them to push your buttons.... he proceeded to put on the internet all his weaknesses, and buttons available for pushing. The irony
If only she can see him now lmao
No one can see him currently since he is probably in a state hospital
This is the part that always gets me … like if he had just listened and exercised..
@@joemartin5669 apparently not because of the ending of the video? I'm really interested in how gfm pulled this off
Oh the new footage?that was done in 2019.Chris's current residence is unknown
This is one of those stories that you just think can't get worse, and yet it does. The rabbit hole keeps going and I don't know if I should be terrified or impressed
The rabbit hole was his moms china the hole time.
“Yes.”
@@wpeniche Let’s not talk about Barbara’s rabbit hole…
Terrimpressed
Chris's legacy proves there is someplace even lower then rock bottom.
This documentary is so damn good. Professional and entertaining.
what about Isabella Loretta janke
Check out Geno Samuel's 60 part, ongoing doc, it's miles better and more detailed
@:::::::::::::: OK you have my attention. Are you happy?
It;s only good if you didnt know anything about chris chan. Otherwise it's pretty bad
@@TheSunshrine agreed
Relieved to see other people in this comment section who can relate to chris and fear that they may be as lacking in judgement and self-awareness as chris is.
Growing up neurodivergent is hard, especially with parents who don't know how to handle it.
Please remember: even if you're awkward and full of quirks, as long as you own up to your mistakes and aim for self-improvement, you're not like chris.
This. There's "awkward and quirky", and then there's "absolute disaster". I firmly believe most autistics, myself included, don't come anywhere NEAR "absolute disaster" territory. It's kind of shameful to me that CWC is what so many people, especially on the internet, think Autism is like. It can be, if you're so hilariously neglected or low-functioning you can't properly function like CWC, but most of us that are able to talk and function like the typical person are really no different than anyone else. We're just a bit twee and have a few more tweaks to make to work in a world that really isn't designed with us in mind. Even those of us that have lower functioning often have skills and insights that are just as valid, but the disorder becomes more of a disability and gets in the way of that. I compare it to running on Linux when everyone else is running on Windows or Mac - same functions, same abilities, different ways to do that and slightly more finicky controls. Someone high functioning is running on more RAM or mental space, perhaps, but that doesn't make the lower-functioning people less valid and worth respect.
To expound on that analogy, if most Autistic folks, regardless of functioning level, are like Linux? CWC is like a malware-infested MS-DOS machine that someone took a magnet to the screen of a few times, let sit in a dusty warehouse, and nobody ever upgraded to the latest firmware. CWC is woefully behind on literally everything to the point that maybe they were considered high-functioning before, but now are so damaged they're basically as low-functioning as someone who is born with Autism and intellectual disability. CWC needs profound levels of aid to turn their life around at this point, because now they're 40. The brain and behavior patterns are set. There's not much that can be done to change the guy, only to care for them now. Not only is it harder now for CWC to learn better,, but now, CWC is even less inclined to want to learn, and that's truly tragic.
didn't think I'd see you here huge fan of your music
hi guys! Can someone tell me what did this guy done?
Thanks
@@thureintun1687 watch the video
@@ElyOtto of course i know that.
I'm asking for help because i still hadn't got much time to do that. That's why if someone can spare some time write down a sentence or two in compressed form of the details and about what the man had done. I'd be very thankful
If you can't, it'll also be ok! Not a problem at all
this whole thing is just so miserable. i wonder to what extent chris understands the world. i know autism can have varying levels of severity, so at what point can you blame personal responsibility? so much abuse online, just to poke someone with a stick to get a laugh. but now we cant feel bad for chris anymore after what he did to his mother. just awful. its just a miserable story with a miserable end.
Internet back then was new....
@:::::::::::::: never thought he was. i just think something about all this just feels so preventable and sad
I’d say they have to take responsibility after the countless warnings to get help. Instead they invested more into there comics which worsened the problems they already had before being online. They had people who where willing to try giving them help but, each time they failed to realize the things that ended majority of them in the first place, not to mention they literally tell them the reason why friendship ended. I think the online abuse sure may have been a problem but all it really did in the end just fastened the problems they already had. They where to much in there own world , the online problems weren’t bad as you or I think. For them they never could fully understand, being stuck in there own delusion.
@@leonarex5540 You gotta understand most of the people who told him to get help were trolls, catfishers and people who had an antagonistic relationship.
His parents always re-enforced his behavior and he was never given help.
@@Optimegatrongodzilla I stopped reading this when you insinuated Chris sees the world differently. He knew fucking his mom was wrong enough to try to hide it from people who were trying to help him
"Yet I do not regret drawing the drawing, because if I hadn't released my frustrations in this creative sense, I might actually have done something really dumb and stupid"
The lack of self awareness here just hurts.
@:::::::::::::: what the
@@apairofglasses775 You didn’t understand the subtext?
That's what autism is. He can't see past surface meaning and takes everything literal.
@@____________838 oh boi i really don't wanna do this
@@apairofglasses775 That's what she was saying.
Okay, that might have been a little wrong.
Another problem I found with Chris is that their parents or others around them never truly sat them down to tell them that things you see on TV, such as the axe body spray, won't magically give you a boyfriend free girl.
*his
It's crazy to me that everyone can see through Chris's mental illness and disabilities in every way EXCEPT when he decides to call himself a woman 😂 Like, dude. Come on.
@@N99622(sigh) it's just sad, its all just sad. Maybe theres still a way to help him
@@N99622based
The thought of randomly exploring the mall and some guy in a long sleeve polo shirt screaming "noooooooooo" from the food court has me laughing like an idiot
Wrath of Khan vibes
Lol. Chris went from looking for a boyfriend free girl to becoming one
Megan looks so uncomfortable in that photo with Chris-Chan. I'm glad she's okay now.
straight, unadulterated dissociation
I really hope she ended up in a healthy relationship!
@@estherhazina889 Last I knew, she was running a shop on Etsy, and had pretty much washed her hands of anything to do with Chris-chan.
@@CJMoody I'm so happy for Megan😊
The saddest thing for Chris was that Anna wrote that she thought he was an OK looking dude. So it's not like he was completely repulsive physically to women...if he had just had a better upbringing then just maybe he could have actually found what he was looking for all along and things wouldn't have spiraled into...what happened.
After an image search, he looks like an average person. He's not hot, but he's not ugly either. Not all photos are flattering, but you can make a lot of people look ugly in bad photos. But most comes down to personality.
Hahahhahhaha.
It would be a few years before he became a hideous blob. If he took care of himself, he would look ok. Not hot, but not like a filth goblin.
@@Liggliluff the very first time I saw this guy, he reminds me of an office worker, could of had a better life for sure.
His personality and behavior are the problem. Same as with Rodger. I mean. Rodger was goodlooking, but no one liked him.
His mind finally grew up from a 7 year old boy stuck in 1996 to an edgy 13 year old girl stuck in 2009. Fascinating.
Ah yes, nice insight uh... BubbleGumBabeFace??? Nice, my little cousin has a Barbie doll named Princess Bubble Gum. You two look like you have so much in common!
@@return7898 ah yes, nice,uhh insult disguised as something you think is profound or intellectual. I'd bet you would have more in a common with him than the original commenter
@@return7898 what's wrong with Barbie Dolls? That was the shit back when I was growing up.
@@sselluoss5935 It's ironic cause my name is inspired by one of my favorite anime, Bubblegum Crisis
@@return7898 Maybe it's because they're 5'9" and have a C cup too, mind your business.
As someone who has never heard of Chris Chan, this is all insane.
Watch Geno’s this isn’t even the tip of the iceberg.
@@lunisnight4919 link?
@@wayfarer13 ruclips.net/p/PLJY1SFDQ6BqvMYKkWSN85bQwb32kf1EU6
Channel is called “GenoSamuel2.1”. I’ve been watching consistently for almost a year and still haven’t caught up on all the episodes; good luck soldier
Pretty much. I had heard of them but never actually looked into what happened. I’m 30 seconds in and already confused
The comment about the 14-year-old not being able to participate because of "dumb laws" is a red flag so large that it could cover the milky way galaxy.
no
It will cover as far as the visible universe
@@Galm1Cipher0 How about the Multiverse and beyond?
It's referring to Labour Laws
@@alchemistofsteel8099 While that is most likely the case, them possibly exposing themselves to a minor is still a crime.
@@alchemistofsteel8099 eh, I doubt it
"The pickle man tricked me again"
I am literally fucking howling
My uncle was the pickle man 😢 he tricked me lots of times with his pickle when I was a little boy
@@wpeniche ayo
Farewell, Solen'ya.
@@wpeniche wtf
@@wpeniche Plot twist: you and your "uncle" aren't related
If there's one thing anyone should know about Chris, it is that there is no such thing as, "rock bottom" for him. He will always find a way to get worse, no matter how unlikely.
You are correct, which makes post-jail saga insanely intriguing. Can’t wait.
@@TheMountainBoysonEdge we are gunna need a hell of a lot of popcorn 🍿 for that 😂😂😂
@@TheMountainBoysonEdge What's making the jail saga unnerving isn't the question of if he'll get out, but *when* he'll get out.
@How long will you force me to live should've happened 20 years ago.
@How long will you force me to live nope and he’s not gonna like that. I can see him bickering on camera with the aid telling him to get off.
The whole Chris-Chan saga is just insanely tragic. Chris' actions aren't excusable by any means, but the more you consume the story, the more you see the dominoes that led to the present. Almost every step in this story is vile. It literally makes me feel sick when I see Chris try and do something he believes is good (even if what he's doing is actually terribly cruel/flawed/misguided) and then see the cycle of back-and-forth torture it breeds between him and those around him. And it's all exacerbated by social media's ability to unempathically spread interesting content. Chris is a sick person and so are the "trolls", but I mean that in a way that implies hope for healing. Despite their disgusting actions, I think having grace and empathy towards the people is so important if we want to keep things like this from happening. Again, bullies and abusers should NOT go unpunished, but when you only see the perpetrator as a perpetrator and not a human, I think it only pushes everyone into a worse place.
The lifestory of Chris Chan is such a disturbing, heartwrenching, & infuriating tragedy! What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions.
What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person.
These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'.
As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.".
As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?".
I heavily encourage you to watch these 6 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/e3KvwJjUrUM/видео.html.
Also, I don't know where the idea that Chris said they are claiming to be transgender in order to get with lesbians came from, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's true. There is potential evidence that Chris is legitimately trans. In an old email thread between Chris and PandaHalo, Chris said that they had always identified more with girls and that they wondered if they should have been born as a girl. You can find this in the CWCki article about Chris's transgenderism. However, I won't say that this is definitive proof that Chris is trans, because the points that the RUclips user GiBi made in his video "A Discussion About Chris Chan's Gender", and the points that the RUclips user TheZiros made in said vid's comment section have a lot of merit.
Wise words, my friend
Chris has had so many chances to change and doesn't take any of them.
@@polocatfan Chris in incapable of understanding that they need help. What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions.
What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend named Megan Schroeder, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a fully functional person.
These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'.
As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.".
As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?".
I heavily encourage you to watch these 6 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/e3KvwJjUrUM/видео.html.
Also, I don't know where the idea that Chris said they are claiming to be transgender in order to get with lesbians came from, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's true. There is potential evidence that Chris is legitimately trans. In an old email thread between Chris and PandaHalo, Chris said that they had always identified more with girls and that they wondered if they should have been born as a girl. You can find this in the CWCki article about Chris's transgenderism. However, I won't say that this is definitive proof that Chris is trans, because the points that the RUclips user GiBi made in his video "A Discussion About Chris Chan's Gender", and the points that the RUclips user TheZiros made in said vid's comment section have a lot of merit.
@@polocatfan changing is... very difficult to do, especially for those who don't realize anything is wrong with how they're doing things
They called him gay, and he proved them wrong in the worst way possible.
Edit: Thank you for finding my dull humor funny, also yes i know these types of edits are cringe i agree. Hope you all have a wonderful day.
Best*;)
@@illogicalgarage8641 most based way* ;))))))
was he actually transgender? or was he actually just pretending to be a girl? dont know the whole history of him or her
@@chieludz No, the reason he even said he was trans was because he heard lesbians were getting “popular” at the time, so he became trans. Like bro I don't really care about the transgender thing, but at least have a reason instead of just wanting sex
@@Plantfreak_ look into blaire white. She's a transgender whom is the complete opposite and calls this shit out.
The saddest thing about this story is, if you take out all the negative parts, it's the tale of an incredibly creative and artistically prolific kid. Sure, his work is painfully amateurish, but he's put out way more content than most of us. Too bad he didn't have more guidance.
Literally they werenjust making art and fun comics but their support system clearly didn’t be supportive or help in any meaningful way
It's shocking it took this long b4 hecwas locked up lol guy was a time bomb
@@sevbunnie8575 It clearly wasn't, he tried to copyright sonichu. Said it was a completely original design when it painfully wasn't.
he raped a dog to dead and then unburied several times it to further rape it and in an episode of tard rage he grabbed his cat from the hind legs and smashed it against the wall killing it
Gotta say I like how you're adding the developments of his comic based on his current mental status. That's something I wanted to know about without having to dive too deep into this pool
Dear Artists,
If you ever feel insecure about your drawings, just be glad that you can improve your artstyle way faster than chris
It's Not That Bad. Look At Peppa Pig. Thats Real Shit Art Style.
@@Lou-yf1jo Even the copy cat art in the video has a style compared to chris chan's actual art
"Faster" He didn't improve at all 💀
@@Lou-yf1jo Yeah but that's intentional bad because it's meant to look like a child's drawing. Chris's is literally just a 40 year old drawing like he did in preschool because he can't improve 😭
No And No.@@llamaniaman4002
What a nice young man, I hope he doesn't do anything bad.
Spoiler alert….
He saves a bus full of orphans.
Oh no wait he fucked his mom
@@wpeniche 😂
@@wpeniche dang
@@wpeniche DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!! 😂
*Stifled laughter*
This is mind blowing how detailed this documentary is for only a hour
Dude there has to be a better way for you to engage with this comment thread.
Try the GenoSamuel documentary it's more in depth
@@DiamondDovahkiin agreed.
@@DiamondDovahkiin this is the second video and I'm sure they'll be more
@@mattie1791 in the geno one, she came for cwc is episode 5 and episode 61 just got dropped if you want literally every detail check it out,if you want it abridged,stay here,they're both good
I'm calling the 3rd title now
HE TOUCHED HIS MOTHER
HE TOUCHED HIS MOTHER??? (EMOTIONAL) *trigger warning*
Or just The fall of Chris Chan
@@jellef4704 okay but can't wait for some more crazy stuff coming up for the mini series
The comments section never disappoints 😂
And trolls caused it.
Love how the "hand-drawn" slides you add are worlds beyond Chris' drawings even though they are meant to be crude.
Solid JJ's Chrischan voice is scary accurate. Jesus
why is your pfp trick attack?
I thought it was Boogie2988 voicing him here?
I thought it was Liquid Chris.
@@IratePuffin thats not liquid???!
I was wondering who did the voice. Thought Chris had did their own voice.
“The first time that CWCVille was presented as a religious afterlife”
I had to stop mid-bite. The thought that at the end of it all, the break in the endless dark that is death, could be CWCVille made me feel a fear I had never known.
Perhaps CWCVille is even a level in the backrooms.
Props to you for eating during this.
That may be the most terrifying possible truth of the universe. The truth not being Christianity, Atheism, Islam, Hinduism, or any other belief system, but rather the idea that the ultimate truth of the universe is that Chris was right all along.
@@CeeJayThe13th thank you, i trained by eating during whang’s gross reddit stories
@@TheOverachiever7 nice! Love Whang!
This is a different kind of gross to me though. Apparently, it's mental stuff that gets to me. Like "maggot girl" doesn't really bother me but "messy tail" does because they obviously aren't well.
The worst part is that if Chris just didn't push as hard as he did, he would have succeeded in his love quest.
I know a few autistic people who are married to non-autistic people, the difference is that they just didn't act nearly as weird as Chris did.
Also, holy shit if that bit about his dog didn't hit hard. Like, goddamn. Despite being an awful person, for those few minutes I actually felt bad for Chris.
Not so sure about that, friends sure but not a girlfriend
You would be amazed the shit some girls put up with from weirdos.
@:::::::::::::: I actually didn't know that. I definitely feel worse for the dog, because dogs are amazing, but I still do feel a little bad for Chris, even knowing he neglected it.
Autism is a very wide spectrum, there are autist that are so functional it is almost impossible to notice they have a condition, and there other autist that that even as adults soil themselves and can barely talk. Chris isn't a funtional autist, even if she claims that, that is a delusion her parents put on her head, I can't hate Chris because hating her for being what she is kinda feels like hating a paraplegic because they can't walk. Chris needed help when growing up and to be faced with the reality of her own limitations.
Yeah autism can be limiting, but Chris is an extreme case. My girlfriend is autistic and while it does affect her life and probably in turn our relationship, she isn’t this extreme. She’s a good, genuine person. Autism doesn’t mean you’re gonna be weird forever. She’s a relatively average person, i.e. she’s not going out holding up attraction signs or harassing people.
As someone with a form of autism I'm always fascinated by Chris. His story is like looking at an alternate version of myself if I ended up with a family that didn't care about me
His family did care about him
@@ChaosAngel9151 I beg to differ
@@jasonarmstrong5750 They cared about him, somewhat at least, but were incompetent at raising a child
everyone in the 2000's got called gay.... each of us dudes got called gay like 20 times a day if we grew up in the 2000's.... but we knew we werrent gay. chris, i dont think he knew for sure.
😂😂 no kidding! Back in the early 2000 even situations and inanimate objects got called gay! Nothing was safe from being called gay back then lol
Yeah I certainly remember that vividly! It was just simply a word that we would often jokingly use and throw around like that to each other and even at anything.
I think we can all thank South Park for giving us that idea whenever Stan, Kyle, Kenny and Cartman would call someone, something or each other gay in the show.
Jesus told him he wasn't
I was...
When I call something or someone gay now, it doesn’t mean that I think you are a male that like weenis’s. It can mean “this is dumb/boring/annoying/you’re a degenerate/disappointment”. It’s a multi-definitional word that holds a high place in english lexicon.
What’s terrifying is that this is the good times, the classic era. It really only gets a lot darker from here
Good lord
If you’re not familiar with recent Christory…. Gear up for Christory End Game. It’s probably worse than you can even imagine.
@@paulyshore1942 I’m more than well aware of how Robertchu couldn’t hit the G-spot like Chris can.
My theory on why Chris went trans is because he was tired of girls telling him they’re lesbians. If Chris became “Christine” and preferred women, it prevented women from playing the lesbian card.
That's pretty much what happened
That's the main reason why the Trans and LGTBQ+ community don't consider Chris as one of them. It's obvious that it was all just a plan for Chris to get a woman to sleep with him. Why would someone infamous for protesting gay relationships and transgenders suddenly back down on those statements and become one of them?
Or maybe he has low testesterone and feels like woman .
Chris started saying he was trans at a time when he was trying to get it on with a couple of lesbians.
It's been debated for a while on calling him trans, it's not the first time people brought up the reason why he started to transition because of wanting to sleep with women not identifying as one.
The problem chris had is that their parents never told them that while it's nice to find someone you should also focus on yourself. If chris was encouraged more to overcome shyness and not worry as much maybe things might have turned out better.
Enough of this they crap, Chris is a man you filthy groomer lmao.
I think all Chris ever did was self-focus and self-reinforce... I think that's the problem here: untreated autism so severe and carelessly exacerbated by the nurturing of Chris' most narcissistic traits, that it would eventually manifest itself as a sort of delusional sociopathy. If Chris wasn't so hilariously goofy, then incarceration and institutionalization would've come decades ago. Can you imagine a community College not expelling either one of us immediately? How about if one of us drove drunk to harass a business we'd been previously trespassed from, and then fled from the police after nearly running someone over? I mean, that one is especially infuriating and the state should be held responsible for failing to act there considering the chain of events afterward.
*his
"They called him gay" is the funniest text I have seen on a thumbnail so far.
Same. Pretty sure YT is going to demonetize for it though.
"never mess with a truly frustrated virgin" is my favorite quote from this episode.
“Rose-Chu is a girl, she never had a freaking pickle!”
Y’know… There’s a certain symmetry to what happened later in Christian’s life here…
Didn't he end up keeping his weiner & ended up resembling the drawing of his abomination with the pickle added?
@@ThogDontCare Yeah, there’s no way someone living of SocSeccould afford to pay for the bottom surgery.
@@____________838 I wonder if he got sent to male prison or female prison lmao
@@ThogDontCare “Despite being a transgender woman, the jail has categorized Chandler as male, Hoffman confirmed to Insider.”
@@____________838 lmfao he 100% his cellmates "boyfriend free girl"
the fact that chris already was trying to make games at 6 showed true potential but it just got stifled and killed by the shitty parenting
I think the saddest and most disgusting part of all this is that the internet has their laughs at his expense and torture of someone CLEARLY easily manipulated and guided, but wants to act surprised and shocked when he finally snaps and S.A. his own mother, as if they didn't have anything to do with his current mental state.
Agreed, you are speaking the truth here. He's not a good person, but one that we must understand is not the architect of his hell. And that people online are assholes who are worse than him.
Yeah, they seemed like hypocrites to me. :/
The internet: :surprisedPikachuface:
im sure there was someone directly involved in that happening too. These videos downplay the involvement of "trolls". They are just as messed up as chris with their creepy predatory behavior.
@@A2Z83 charges or something needs to be brought against some of these people or at the very least exposed to everyone on the internet. I know it's been probably 10+ years and almost impossible to prosecute, but personally, I think if you're capable of sexually exploiting and manipulating a mentally handicapped person, everyone around you should know about it.
I haven’t seen anyone mention it, so I will- whoever is doing the voice acting/Chris Chan impressions in these videos is amazing, they capture his nasal, slow, depressed tone perfectly
I think (at leased in the first one) it’s boogie2988
@@vigorousvoid5330 it definitely isn't lol
I think its solid jj
Yeah well done mocking a mentally challenged person
it sounds like liquid chris
"Unfortunately for him though, the worst was yet to come". That's the slogan for Chris' entire life
15:21 i love that pic of Megan and Chris i love how uncomfortable she looks. like not even attempting to smile or put her arm around Chris or something. her face screams "i really wish i wasn't in this picture right now"
With his bo, axe body spray and sharty underwear
Oh lord she looks so genuinely scared
RIP Patti that literally made me cry. I never expected something from Chris-chan to bring out such emotion wtf
Wimp
@:::::::::::::: can you expect someone with severe autism to raise a dog? How do you know you that she neglected her dog?
Patti is perhaps one of the only living things he ever cared about actually he was genuinely pretty upset about her death for a long time.
He CARED about his dog?! Like fuck he did. I miss my Puppy, but I sure as hell would not eulogize my late canine friend like THAT. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he sexually molested his dog. And I know Autistic People who take very good care of their animal friends. Chris IS not one of them. RE-ED(umm, not that I give a rat's @$$ about the person above, but I take back the bestiality bit, and give Creepy Chris the benefit of the doubt. After all, there are a few convicted murderers who really do love their animal friends like normal animal lovers. And let's leave this dude alone. Yes, he got the shit end of the stick via inept parents and some serious mental disorders. Time to move on. The targets of our ire and contempt should be the @$$holes who have the nerve to tell you "You're full of shit", or "You don't know what you're talking about" when you know you're Fμ©!ng right. If this isn't some annoying twelve-year old trying to front as an annoying adult, it's one of those chronic fault finding 'consummate professional' types,while good at one thing, still couldn't find their @$$ with a mirror and a flashlight...those are the ones who deserve scorn and ridicule.
@@tawnystone1292 If there is one thing you can’t argue with though is that he genuinely cared for her in fact I heard that was the pet he was closest too.
Clyde Cash
To be fair, those trolls were definitely out to get (a rise out of) him.
* her *she * she * her. No matter whay she had done it is no ground to misgender her
Just like DSP
@@caverramos7581 Y-you do realize he was bullied into thinking he is trans right?
I mean, the guy IS autistic. Maybe it’s not necessarily ego, but his literal blindness toward social cues and implications?
I'm unironically inspired by his willingness to put himself out there.
Please have an extent.
No. He was not putting himself out there,
He is the epitome of pathetic desperation.
He disrespected all boundaries. It’s disgusting. I know he is autistic but he always knew better. Go get inspiration elsewhere. Pitiful….
@@Burialofagod Do you speak to yourself this way?
Lol
There should be a word for inspired but from a pathetic way because inspired is such a beautiful word but this context is the opposite
Megan looked so uncomfortable when Chris was close to her in that picture. Her eyes screamed “lord help me”
He never showered, granted I don't usually actually wash my body (mostly my hair since I either can't find body soap or something to wash myself with, to be clear) and would always use ax body spray, so he must've spelled nasty
Everytime I hear about this guys story it makes me sick to the stomach, like I know it's funny because he's so easy to manipulate but it feels like an episode of Black Mirror. The internet was the only audience that would listen to his insane ramblings, feed his addiction, if that addiction went away he might've gave in to therapy or re-evaluating his life. But the internet is the audience that never dies.
Bro find my comment, more people need to see this shit for what it really was.
The way you put that gave me chills.. it's all terrifying but it's true
There should so be a Black Mirror episode inspired by Chris Chan.
True crime fan and not even including where I know this is going, this is honestly one of the most disturbing stories I've ever come across.
@@apriljk6557 Find my comment on the video. You'll read the truth about this situation.
One of the things that amazes me the most about Chris is he never got in trouble with some very dangerous people. Think about it, he’s so easy to manipulate and deceive, especially back in the early days of internet chat rooms. A dangerous person could’ve easily catfished Chris into thinking some young woman wanted to hook up with him, make him come around to one of his nearby hangouts and abduct him and never be seen alive again. If there really is such things as multiple universes, than this kind of reality could’ve been very frequent.
Maybe, but to what end? Chris doesn't have money, even at his apex of 'fame'. The only reason to kidnap and harm him is the mild notoriety it might get that person among a small community like 4Chan and Kiwifarms. That might be enough for someone, but I suppose not enough for someone to give it a go.
I mean ideally you wouldn't want to abduct or harm someone who would be easily noticed if they went missing. You think 4chan would just move on if one day he just disappeared
Actual dangerous people have better things to do than screw with a messed up autistic man child. However their kids on 4chan on other hand had a field day screwing with him as long as it didn’t backfire on them.
I'd argue the sociopaths fcking with her were pretty dangerous. Anything they asked her for, she complied. I imagine many met some sick need, sexual or otherwise from their interactions. I know it's cute to call this behavior "trolling," but to this extent it's sadistic and pathological.
Except there were dangerous people fucking with him. Think Bluespike, who forced him to shove his medallion up his anus, or more notably the Idea Guys who basically brainwashed him about the Dimensional Merge and many other things and helped in creating the modern Chris Chan.
Chris Chan is an undeniably awful person in so many ways. He also made things worse for himself by how he responded to trolls. But damn. The Internet really rose up to ruthlessly bully a developmentally challenged person.
Idk man, if you rape your mom you probably deserve to be bullied.
@:::::::::::::: obviously r@pe is infinitely worse than bullying. However, that doesn't make bullying a developmentally challenged person an OK thing to do. More than one thing can be morally wrong at the same time.
Right?! ESH
Except for the fact that Chris uploads his acts of autism to the internet as if by instinct. He could have not done that and would have received no bullying. CWC is developmentally challenged, yet very prideful, which is why the internet doesn't feel bad about him.
@@MK_ULTRA420 sure, he could have prevented the bullying by not being prideful. The bullies could have also prevented it by not bullying.
I've watched a lot of documentaries about Chris Chan, but this one might be the best, especially with how you weave the original footage of you meeting with Chris throughout them. It puts it a step above people just using the same images over and over.
Gamer from Mars is quite the gonzo journalist eh? jk but seriously Gamer from Mars’ multi part documentary puts all others to shame.
I'd legit be interested in a redrawing of CWC's comic by a professional artist without changing any of the storyline. Seeing the product of such a person's mental state has its own unique charm
I agree with this comment.
I fully support this Idea! like the situation with One Punch Man
I redrew the first like 4 pages on my Twitter but after losing the sketch of the next page I stoped. I’m not really proud of them anymore
NYET! the comic is perfect.
Even with the sexual parts?
I can't tell you how much, HOW MUCH I can relate to Chris' loss of Patti.
I just lost my dog about three days ago. He was 13 years old and has been with me practically as long as I can remember. He was my best friend, he kind of felt like a brother or a guardian of sorts. I've always struggled with socializing and understanding others, be it social cues or subtext, and my dog was one of my few "escapes" from the crippling reality that I'll likely forever be this socially inept weirdo. I could come home and hide in my bed, but my dog would jump onto it and just lay down beside me, which always made me feel as though I had at least one person (or dog, in this case) that would always be there even when the entire world seemed to wish I never existed.
I'm not posting this in an attempt to gain pity, nor am I trying to at all defend some of Chris' actions, but I suppose as a way of showing how you can relate to the most unexpected of peoples in the most unexpected of ways.
Sorry for your loss, and I hope you feel better soon.
I agree and know this feeling I lost dog in February. My condolences to you.
Thank you to everyone for your condolences
@@HappyMuppetFilm My condolences to you as well. I hope you're doing well
I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your dog.
Whoever's doing Chris' voice is a savage 😂
Isn't it the guy that did Sonichu Animated Series? Can't remember his name.
@@majinboot8775 It sounds like liquid Chris to me
The name is Solid JJ. He does other voices and his channel is really good, you all should check it out
Sounds like Herbert the pervert
It's like he was created in a lab to be the perfect troll target.
No one in a normal lifetime could be subjected to this much trolling, chris was biologically engineered to have as much online bullying directed to him as possible, its incredible really.
@@OneTrillionScovilleno, everyone was genetically engineered to troll him.
We still do!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yep.
I laughed audibly when I read this. A+
I didnt get it til i read te thumbnail, FUNNY. hahah :) so funny. Wow that was funny.
Lmao
Props to the female voice talent. Had me feeling like Chris when she said "DONT TOUCH ME" Lol very convicting even if it was just a simple read. Very good vocal performance.
And I couldnt take the part about his dog too serious because how goofy you read what Chris was saying lmaoo but i enjoyed it all it was hilarious the voice you were using lol. OVERALL 10/10 VIDEO! THANK YOU!
Edit: Lmaoo "If I see one more Frickin pickle!" *Ominous music plays in the back*
is it just me or does he sound *exactly* like liquid chris?
One of the female voices particularly the early Megan voice was Cecil mcfly I think. She has her own fantastic channel!!
It's a good docuentry but every time i watch it... I see a dark reflection of what could have been.
I may accept my weird quirks with the wife.
But ... seeing things like this makes me double take and check myself.
To only learn I am a decent guy, not amazing, who made the dumb decissions like everyone.
As someone with autism, I am glad I am who I feel like I am.
Agreed, the way in which Chris reminds me of how I used to be when I was a child is frightening beyond belief. I’m certainly less happy and possibly worse off for life going forward
his issues, responses to them, and state of living during the 2019 visit to his house are fucking soul chilling, the man never learned something so basic that I can’t even place a name to it. In the next video he refers to his room as ‘organized chaos’, such a tiny and insignificant little phrase and it struck me to my core. No matter how different I may be from him, that’s how I described my room at one point In life, that’s the most point-to-able thing I can say off the top of my head but just listening to his story I’m continually reminded of how I could have been if I never gained self awareness
@@Enter54623 same man, I don’t have autism, but I do have… something. Doctors can’t say what exactly is wrong with me, but something is fucked up. Child me wis something that I just don’t want to think about, and I’m so glad I’ve changed.
Her mother believing his son to be so special and handsome is what chills me. We all could have been Chris.
@@kaanyldz4814 no? Chris was born in raised in very specific circumstances. He was born autistic, and he was raised by two very old people. I don’t know how many autistic children were born to old parents, but I can’t imagine that it’s that common.
@@bigman1163 nigga, is you bipolar? make up your mind lmao
I never really bothered to learn about Chris Chan until recently. I always assumed he was just some random guy the internet liked to make fun of/the guy who made Sonichu. But after learning more, let me tell you... it's one hell of a ride.
As someone who struggled with social aspects in real life before, I can sort of see why Chris did the things he did before his rise on the internet. Unlike him, though, I usually just kept to myself without bothering anyone. I had a crush on a girl that went to my math class this year. I tried to ask her out, but she kindly revealed that she was a lesbian. So, while I never got the chance to be with her, I decided to just let her do her, and leave my crush on her behind for someone else. Once I learned about Chris' obsession with Megan, I kind of saw a mirror to me accepting reality compared to Chris' whole "coochie plan" as I like to call it. It made me think... what if I fell down the same path Chris went? It's kind of scary to think about. In fact, I'm noticing a whole lot of parallels between me and Chris, not just our romance problems. The fact that we're both obsessed with pop culture, born to parents of differing age gaps, and even writing dumb fanfics of our favorite video games. The similarities are too unnerving for me to NOT notice.
I know there's a lot of people watching this series who are shocked to hear that they're similar to Chris Chan in many ways too. And I know they're afraid of being like him too. To those people, don't be afraid of who you think you are when you compare yourself to someone else. Just look at the little details inside you that make you different; make you who YOU are.
Well said. I definitely needed this reminder since I also see many aspects of myself in Chris Chan (big Sonic fan, influenced by anime, attached to nostalgia)
i always feel incredibly bad and i feel a lot of sympathy toward chris, especially when i watched the genosamuel docuseries about him, but even though his upbringing is messed up and alot of people bullied him he does alot of it to himself
That's true but his actions were still bad. It's hard to even say if he could get better since his autism seems pretty severe. I knew a person with just aspergers and he was incredibly smart school wise but would constantly poke people hard and be very hard to stand socially even though his parents tried giving him therapy. It's honestly really hard to take a stance on the matter (unless you're unsympathetic or just a troll with nothing better to do)
She goes by she her pronouns
@@imyourmaster77 oh
@@imyourmaster77 good for him.
Chris takes advantage of people who feel sorry for him. Don't be a sucker.
Honestly Chris' story is unbelievably tragic. In no way do I condone his behavior, but as with most people his personality and actions are created by his environment. People keep making fun of his ego and narcissism, but it's honestly really depressing and horrifying how he was isolated and educated so poorly that he could ever get to that point.
While I knew the basic plot points of his life before this documentary series, this has really enlightened me to what an unbelievably poor road someone can go down to if they're never properly supported in their lifetime. I sincerely hope this guy gets help, or at least a peaceful life at the end of this docuseries.
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You know he's in jail awaiting trail for faarkin his mum right?
Well, I hate to tell you that a happy ending is nowhere in sight! Last year, Chris got put in jail and as of February of 2022 is in a mental institution. The reason? Chris had sex with their mom! All of this shit could have been avoided and it's so goddamn disturbing, gutwrenching, & infuriating!
What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions.
What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person.
These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'.
As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.".
As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?".
I heavily encourage you to watch these 5 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html.
@@Optimegatrongodzilla that's just a wall of text mate.
All based on the supposition that Chris has all these disorders.. that he's never been diagnosed with. Autism is his only known diagnosis in regards to mental health.
And trust me, having worked with the disabled, they can be bad people too. Chris is a perfect example of that.
@@Optimegatrongodzilla I read your entire comment, thank you for the information! I myself have often wondered how much exactly are we allowed to judge and/or criticize people on the spectrum or with some greatly affecting mental illness in general. It’s really hard, because if someone - for example - has some kind of anger management issues, you can’t really blame them for that and it might not completely be in their control to change that, right? But then there’s also the problem with how much do you accept or tolerate? Should you really take someone’s shouting or harassment or abuse sitting down, if the other person is either physically incapable to stop or understand and change their ways?
I do think the answer lies somewhere in the middle. I don’t remember their exact names, but some of Chris’ ”gal pals” probably had the best possible reaction (at least that they could have in such a situation): give him multiple chances to understand what he did wrong and try to help them process it, but if they genuinely aren’t able to and the bad behavior continues, you’re not obligated to receive the abuse in whatever mental situation they are in.
@@FransuToffi You're welcome and that is definitely the right viewpoint to have on this sort of thing!
Chris' life is like a human tire fire you cant look away from. It just gets worse the longer it goes on and you cant stop it no matter how hard you try.
Well, the best way to stop a tire fire is to not fuel it. If people stopped harassing him it would have never got this bad. It amazes me that people don’t realize their acting just as bad as Chris. He’s clearly more autistic than people think he is “not that being autistic is wrong it’s just what I believe to be true.” The people who trolled them and are supposedly “shocked” he’d do something so horrible is either a lie or their just an absolute moron.
@@imnotmeimabisexualpanda.1122 The best way to end a nuclear incident is NOT to partake in it
People watch Chris because it's impossible to believe that such a person could actually exist. He's like a real-life cartoon character. He's the culmination of every wrong decision imaginable throughout life.
@@imnotmeimabisexualpanda.1122 Chris kept driving tanker trucks of napalm into the tire fire every week.
@@stormwulf117 yes, but the trolls sold him the napalm. Both parties are in the wrong. I’m just referring to the trolls who can’t take responsibility for their actions. A lot of the extremely bad things he’s done, he had a troll whispering in his ear to do it.
"she never had a frickin pickle" absolutely kills me lmao
How did you play Chris-Chan's verison of Magic the Gathering irl with Chris-Chan for two hours without going insane
What's funny is that I genuinely thourght that the pickle was supposed to only represent a pickle and never knew it was a allegory for 'penis', I only thought that Chris really hated pickles.
He hates the vegetable pickle too for their phalic shape
As well as black men
Patti’s death really hits home with me, as of the current time, just yesterday I saw my elderly cat Missy just drop dead and we found her body soaking in the rain. She was buried earlier today while I was still asleep but the trauma and self torture is really starting to settle in
I think everyone can relate to the loss of a pet, and that comic was done well, up until patti becomes a part of chris' world, and then it just goes back to his weird world of espacism
Im sorry for your loss rip dear noble kitty
this reminded my of my odd special dog who died of of Epilepsy in January 27th 2022
Lmao
Did you not care when you saw it drop dead?
I’m not the best artist, though I can draw technical diagrams and blueprints. But Chris inability to improve even the most basic art work is absolutely shocking
Props to Solid JJ for his voice acting - I straight up thought you'd just gotten Liquid to do it.
it is just so bizarre someone like chris chan exists with a whole internet infamy where people go to his house for interviews and him being recognized at conventions and being talked about at conventions, it just boggles me that this is real and this happened to someone
Something even wilder is almost anyone I have asked about Chris Chan in my real life, they have never heard of him! And all this exists!
The Rise of Chris Chan
“They called him gay!”
That should be a 1950’s movie poster
top le kek m8!
Fathers need to be a lot more present in people's lives, holy fuck. If my son ever began bullying a disabled person like this, you bet your ass I would intervene.
Not even just fathers man Chris needs actual good people in his life. Everyone around him fed off his shit
All that because 2 boomers thought that getting special needs ed was like getting locked up at Arkham Asylum or something...
It's too comical for all this to be real.
Highly doubt those classes would have helped. Even if he socialized it's always with other people like him and those classes are kept away from other kids in public schools. Don't think that would have been enough to fix w/e tf is issues are.parents definitely could have been alot better though that's for sure.
@@sselluoss5935 I feel like this goes beyond that.
Because back in chris' days, ableism was basically the norm in a way to his parents side at least since they're older.
But it's also probably ableism since they kept the classes away from each as you mentioned.
The thing is, we don't know what would have happened if Chris got the care and help he needed so badly.
Like it's very obvious, if his parents weren't complete piece of trash and raised him properly, Chris would be a far better person and wouldn't be the most documented person ever.
I still to this day can't believe that something like this even exists and I've only discovered who Chris Chan is after the incident went viral if you know what I mean.
And in the end Chris got sent off to Arkham anyway, thirty years later.
They're not boomers
@@sselluoss5935 i agree as someone in those programs my whole life the kids are basically just babysat
This series is a breath of fresh air compared to most other documents. Most Christorians usually read the cwci articles word by word, add their own insult, or sound brash about it. You take it professionally and even got to the point where you interviewed her yourself to boot. A side to documentation we barely see involving chris-chan. And you are also going from the beginning really well to where even I learned some new things I barely even knew and I have been down this rabbit hole for a good while. Great job TGFM look forward to the rest.
Him
I lost it when you said “This is when the trolls realized they had struck gold.” I can’t. LOL.
It was a never ending well of comedy
@@sweet_sukeban4022 Been watching the Comprehensive Documentary about Chris by GenoSamuel. While a lot of the trolls eventually matured and became Chris’ biggest advocates and guardians, it’s still a tragic tale for Chris. Serious Peter Pan syndrome, Autism, and whatever personality disorders that came with it. It was never gonna end well for Chris… as funny as some of it is, the more harmful stuff astounds me…
I tried my damndest to help the guy back in the day, he just wouldn't listen. I feel so bad for his life after the internet found him...
I suspect he had been drowned so many trolls, I was just another voice
Did you know him?
Coming from an autistic like myself, I kind of relate to Chris in some aspects. Just like him, I had a sheltered childhood, I’m lonely and desperately needed a companion, I even made my own series of homemade, amateur comic books. I was also admittedly ignorant and immature back then, which resulted in some unsavory stories I’d rather not talk about, although I was still a kid when I used to behave like that. Learning about Chris Chan’s story for the past couple of years taught me to be more self aware of both my disability and my actions. And as much as I don’t like Chris as a person, due to his ego, selfishness, and just how much of a repulsive human being he is, I still feel kind of feel sorry for him. His life is a never-ending series of train wrecks that both he, and trolls, did to himself. It’s sad, bizarre, and just pure insanity.
I think you’re better than him you have an understanding that you can always do with improvement and a wish to be accepted. Most importantly you don’t have the attitude that whatever you do is OK because It gets you what you want.
@@Mortablunt You’re not too far off with that sentiment. I appreciate the compliment.
@@SquidwardSmellsGOOD734 wow so in a way bobs wish for chris and sonichu to be a ...er...'role-model' of sorts for autistic folk everywhere came to fruition!! but in all seriousness man empathy is a great thing and you sound like a far cry from chris. i feel for him too honestly. i wish you well :)
It crazy how he did a autobiography of his own life with comics
Frankly I think others should do that as I have always had the fear of being forgotten. Or not having a legacy.
@@ivanthehighman177 You don't need a legacy to have a good life my guy. Just enjoy life
@@twinzzlers Legacy is what makes your tales live on forever, do you want to be forgotten?
@@ivanthehighman177 Nearly everyone who ever lived ends up forgotten. It doesn't bother me much
i like how the thumbnail is so overdramatic
its basically saying that all hell broke loose the moment chris was called gay
That’s what he thought would happen if he was ever called gay