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That's true... I have learning disabilities that come with a lot of similar challenges as what Chris went through as a kid/teen, and my mom was a huge help in giving me advice for what to do, and how to deal with overwhelming situations. She also supported me in seeking professional help and getting on medication to deal with the stress. Good parents make a huge difference, whether that's in providing help, or making existing issues worse.
Previous child grew to hate her, ignored essentials to improving Chris's mental state when she had the chance, let Chris be raised by video games and cartoons only, laid around all day in her junkyard house while her some made a fool of himself.
Let it sink in: At the Regency Mall, Chris received the name Christian and began this saga. At the Regency Inn, just across the street, Chris was arrested and ended this saga. Edit: Of course it didn't end the saga. He always comes back. And he's free.
The idea that Chris Chan is probably sitting in that room alone, is extremely scary. Especially knowing that his delusions known as “Sonichus” are sharing that room with him but only in his eyes. This is a hell I wouldn’t wish on anyone.
The decision to change school districts to avoid special-ed was the worst thing Chris's parents could have done. Chris never really had a chance after that.
This whole saga is like a decades long sitcom. There’s no hugging, no learning. Everything resets each episode, and there’s a colorful cast of memorable characters that pop in every now and then.
As someone on the spectrum myself, it honestly terrifies me how easily I could have ended up like Chris Chan to some degree had my parents not fought tooth and nail to give me the proper support I needed growing up. 😳
I don't think you have anything to worry about. Regardless of how bad your autism is it doesn't make you commit incest on your on mother. That's something entirely different. Some people are just sick.
Right?? Imagine if they were lazy, cruel, neglectful, or even autistic themselves; I've got a sneaking suspicion about Barb and Bob's true respective capacities
@@lemonadelunacy3291 Very much agreed. Good parents really do make a world of difference in a child's life, neurotypical or no and I'm grateful for mine. As far as Bob and Barb's poor parenting is concerned, it comes down to the two of them being alcoholics and far too overprotective of Chris rather than any autistic tendencies on their part. After all, there are many parents on the spectrum that are just as capable of caring for their children as anyone.
@@autisticscreechling4950 I agree that there are plenty of autistic parents who take wonderful care of their children; my statement was not to say that isn't true. I only meant that the two of them (B&B) specifically have had precisely zero learning or training or behavior modifications as far as their own selves are concerned, so I imagine it would have been absolutely atrocious in that.household with two adults who don't understand that they've got the same.sorts.of problems as their son, and being unwilling to accept that fact and certainly not ready to do anything about it nor work toward bettering that aspect.of their lives. I bet it was hell in that household. Throw the hoarding into the mix, and what it must have smelled like, and you can guarantee it was not a happy, healthy place to be. 😭 Again, I was never trying to say that autism=automatically bad parenting 🖤🖤
Liquid Chris was the perfect troll in my opinion because he never did anything malicious to Chris-chan directly. He just did everything he did, but better. Which drove him insane to no end.
Fun fact, there's an episode of the Sonic Boom TV show, called "The Biggest Fan" that features a character named "Mark the Tapir", an obsessed fan, who's a not so subtle parody of Chris Chan. The writers denied basing it of of Chris, but there's a lot of very obvious references including dressing Sonic up to look like Sonichu, orange soda, and Sonic's arms.
I agree that Mark wasn't based on Chris-chan, but rather on the bad people in the fandom in general. Yes there are references to him like the color of the legs and fanta, but he is not the sole basis of the character.
Chris actually saw that episode and claimed to see no resemblance between him and Mike because he is "not crazy like that". Make of that what you will.
When it flashed back to a picture of Chris as a kid my heart broke, thinking of how differently things could have gone if only he'd had more capable parents and no internet connection.
Agreed, Chris isnt a "good" person but there's no doubt that the circumstances set before she/him by the internet influenced how it turned out for chris
@@KimVerhaaff trolls will always exist no matter what, it's 2022 now so people know when to not give someone who is obviously a troll the attention they are craving
Chris might be the worst tragedy of a life I’ve ever heard of on the internet the trolling mixed with his parents mistreating him and making him growing almost completely impossible is somewhat disturbing
@@Whoisthiskid1 Whatever concoction/mess of illnesses that Chris Chan likely includes a lot of mental illnesses/patterns, known, and unknown, psychologist should study his history, behaviour, in depth, horrifying disturbing as it may be, can be used for the betterment of mental illness treatment, understanding our world, and the betterment of man so this tragedy of a man will never happen again.
As an autistic person myself, I feel this is a prime example of when you A) have parents that clearly don’t give a shit B) let the kid do whatever they want no matter how disruptive or fucked up.
It seemed that Chris’s parents more or less gave up on him after he left community college and hardly ever interacted with him unless he made things inconvenient for them.
You forgot C) instill in their kid a sense of unbridled entitlement, delusions of grandeur/specialness well beyond healthy self esteem and the message that your problems or mistakes are everyone’s fault and responsibility, except yours.
As Vidalion lightly put it, Chris's parents where unequipped to deal with him. Barb is the worst parent you could ask for and Bob was fighting a losing battle, try as he might. Both their perspective on Chris and how to go about his problems where outdated and due to horror stories during their youth, opted to keep Chris out of programs that otherwise could of made him a better person. They where clearly protective of Chris, but this only made things worse. I'd like to think Bob's age was his biggest limiting factor. He may have been homophobic and racist but he also was the only person trying to instill Chris with values. Chris misunderstood Bob's advice along with Bob doing anything to make Chris successful including boosting his ego (downplaying Autism and villainizing Asperger's clearly came from Bob to instill Chris that he was above other people) and to his credit, it worked. Barb on the other hand only created a monster. I'm sure she was why they left Chris to go drinking, her hoarding only set horrible standards for Chris and her mental stability was tied to her husband. Anything Bob could do to help Chris would only be ruined by the examples set by Barb. Honestly if they raised Chris closer to their prime around the 60's Chris would be a better individual as Bob was trying to set Chris up for functioning in a society that better fits an era long lost. He was clearly aware he wouldn't be there to guide Chris when he needed it. One of their fatal flaws, that being they had no idea how to deal with Chris's consumption of modern media and how absorbed Chris became with it can be tied to their advanced age. All this and more is why Chris is a fascinating human, people theorize the absolute worst modern society can produce and Chris is the living example, the exception.
What I feel people seem to be unable to grasp, is that Chris is definitely more developmentally disabled than seems to be recognized. His parents never wanted to acknowledge this, because back when they were young, being mentally disabled would make it extremely difficult to live life at all. Chris would never be able to live a normal life, but if he were able to get the support he needed, he might have been able to live a peaceful life grounded in reality.
For a few years now I've been saying this. Had he not been mainstreamed, and instead put in a special school and later a group home for developmentally disabled adults, it would have been a far more humane life for him. He could be playing with toys and helping out around the home, maybe providing assistance to people with worse disabilities and feeling good about making a difference to others while staying grounded with real relationships. It's cruel that a man with his mental limitations has been "abandoned" like this.
All Chris had to do was to stay off the Internet in order to live a more peaceful life, but his huge ego as well as his constant craving for attention kept bringing him back online again and again for more trolling.
Chris-chan is the ultimate cautionary tale of what happens if you let the internet raise your kids, documentaries on him should be required viewing for new parents.
@@Mann_mit_Kaffee dude, take it from me, there’s no way that in the current internet climate my generation will turn out like Chris Chan. Annoying and distracted, yes, but be damned if we come close to the level of Chris Chan’s degeneracy.
I'd say its more of what happens when an autistic individual is denied a proper support system at a time when they need it most. That and when you fail to establish proper social norms.
His downfall started when he was trolled consistently from 2009-2010. You’d think two full years of getting trolled online would be a giant hint to stay off the internet, but nope.
Honestly the biggest takeaway from this whole saga imo should be that the cruelty of online trolls knows no bounds. Absolutely subhuman behaviour to systematically ruin everything dear to a person. :(
@@NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle what? If I imagine spiderman and mario fighting than that is my imagination. Just because it was unoriginal that doesnt mean it wasnt a meaningfull safe resort for chris chan, which was taken away.
I’m also high functioning autistic, and I feel as if I’m a light mirror of Chris. We’re both sonic fanatics, love drawing, and get along more with women, but I still have many guy friends. But unlike him, I have a goal in life, and that’s not being a God, as I’m working to be a marine biologist.
I’m high functioning autistic, too. And I watch these videos every now and then to remind myself of where not to go. I’m hoping to be a novelist, and I’m going back to a school to study hospitality and open my own BnB
The fact that the Chris Chan trolls who have so many instances of borderline torture respected his fathers death and gave him space for a while. Then think about jacksepticeye a beloved public figure and HIS fathers death,
@@puma8262 basically Jack's dad died and people started making bots to spam comments saying things like "jacksepticeyes dad is burning in hell" and terrible disrespectful things like that
I really wish Bob Chandler had the strength to permanently cut off internet access for Chris when things were starting to get out of hand. I truly believe had Chris gone near fully offline from 2008/09 to the time Bob passed away. That would have been just enough time for people to permanently lose interest in Chris and move on to the next lolcow of the month.
yeah if bob was more strict, i still think Chris wouldn't have been changed of anything but the interest of him would be low and set only back as something people around town only know
The drawing of him alone in prison being a callback to him in the closet... It left me speechless. This man's life was treated as a comedy when it was the greatest tragedy in internet history.
I’m at the point where Robert died and Chris and Barb were in mourning, until Barb would get violently angry if Chris didn’t sleep in bed with her so that she may “call upon him”. Was this like foreshadowing in real life?
The picture of Chris-Chan in jail followed by the picture of him as a little boy locked in the closet was surprisingly powerful. The story went full circle. Overall, the saga of Chris-Chan is both horrifying and depressing. I felt sympathy for Chris-Chan for a long time until the incest raping. It can be argued where the blame lies for the events leading up to that, but Chris-Chan undeniably became a monster in the end.
Too bad he fucked up by believing that Chris Chan is actually trans even though he is faking it to get laid. Not to mention I WARNED him not to make that mistake but of course he didn’t listen.
@@vankook Except with Geno, its a slow grueling process. If someone is just learning of Chris Chan. (Which surprisingly there are.) Then a 60+ part documentary is a bit of a pill to swallow.
In my opinion, I think Fiona did the right thing leaking the phone call. The call would’ve been leaked no matter what anyway, and that psycho troll would have done awful things with the information. This was the best outcome, and it’s depressing.
It is genuinely disturbing watching Chris Chan talk about him seeing cartoon characters. It's like a little kid playing pretend or worse someone who's completely lost grasp on reality.
Though, what's even crazier is that like any cartoon character, he had a nemesis named Anthony LoGatto, aka, A-Log who is also autistic and went out of his way to rant obsessively on him, probably because he didn't want to be compared to him but failed
When I saw the trending topic "CHRIS CHAN DID WHAT" I looked him up thinking he was disgusting....but I made the worst mistake anyone can make... I went down the rabbit hole..
Having been following Chris for a couple years now, when the news broke we were all horrified but not particularly surprised It dropped during a lull in activity too so it was a lot out of seemingly nowhere
Can we all appreciate Null for his attempts to help Chris, during all this? Of all the people involved in this mess, he tried more than anyone else to actually steer Chris in the right direction. If only someone like him had arrived sooner, this might still have been an amusing, ongoing story, rather than what actually happened...
He shouldn't have touched the poo. Other than that he was still the only person at Chris's side when shit hit the fan... Well, that was until Chris lies to him about stealing money from Barb.
@@plantdaddy7738 I never said they did, but what he did was selfless. His intentions may have started off being to troll Chris, but they evolved into something much better
@@plantdaddy7738 No, but a genuine change of heart does, and it's clear Null wanted to make things right. He showed real maturity by, you know, growing up and taking a bit of responsibility for the mess he'd created. The real tragedy is that it happened far too late to save Chris before his life devolved into the mess it eventually became
I think it might have been because he was diagnosed in the 80s. They probably didn't have the greatest understanding of autism then. I agree that he is not 'high-functioning' at all, and any semblance of independence was snuffed out by his parents.
I feel bad for Null(however I spell it) he went from the villain to the repentant side hero after Chris’s house caught fire. He realized that what he was doing to Chris was really damaging and he tried to repair the damage he’d done and help Chris and keep him out of trouble. He was a better parent than Barb ever was.
It's sad that this man, the only one that seemed to actually care for this person, who did more than both his parents ever did for him/her, Null's efforts just thrown away.
You know, you gotta feel bad for Chris. He's literally stuck in a world that he'll never get to understand because he is so disillusioned and detached from reality that he'll never get to feel genuine joy in anything. His parents, trolls, and so-called friends have stripped him of every bit of pride and self respect that he'll probably never get to recover and the world hates him for it because we're *forced* to. Edit: I aint excusing the disgusting things he's done, and he deserved what he had coming to him, but I put the blame on why he's so fundamentally messed up in the head on the people who fundamentally screwed him up.
@Boa-Noah all fair points, and I dont have sympathy for the things he did, but I believe if he was brought up right in life by his parents by attending to his special needs appropriately, and if people didn't target him specifically just because it was easy and he didn't know better, he probably could have turned out significantly better as a person. I put the blame for who he is today on the people he was surrounded by. The guy has never won in his life because people were out to see him lose or didn't care enough to help him win. And when one single person said "He doesn't deserve that" it was way too late.
@@leifweigel4166 I have to agree, the things he’s done are disgusting especially the incest but he was setup to fail by everyone. He never had a chance and it’s sad to know had he been better cared for and actually supported and shown kindness and compassion he could’ve turned out okay
I love how Chris established "Jenkins Jinkies" as being 13 years old...But then when the time comes to make the "Why I hate Chris Chan" video, he's clearly a grown man who sounds almost exactly like Chris. Right down to the constipated grunt at the end. He's like a cartoon character.
Isabella Jenky is probably one of the most evil human beings that may have touched this saga. Not for the actions she participated, but for the pure and sheer will to take part on it. A sadistic individual at her core. Sometimes, i swear god. Humanity finds ways to push me into being misantropic more and more each day.
Well, that and all the other sick "trolls" that made him even violate himself.. There's trolling and there's people just actually being evil assholes with even more hatred for others and humanity than the people they target! Almost like social justice warriors without the actual justice part? And being anti-social.. And certainly not a warrior. So, anti-social hatred filled cowards, i guess?
@@futonrevolution7671 That would be called dissociating. Some people do it on purpose. It's a coping mechanism. Not that you are wrong about the timing, I just read your comment as possibly condescending, sorry if I got it wrong.
@@averysspookshowspectacular6205 No worries. As an autist who's quite a bit less functional, than Chris, I can say that it's incredibly easy for us to fake this sort of crap. I've personally tested this on world-class neurologists, like Orrin Devinsky, after specifically telling them what I was about to do, and they couldn't tell the difference. Chris may very well believe that they're the Goddess of a console system that doesn't exist... for days at a time, but not 24/7. The only thing that they're 24/7 on is their horniness. Neurotypicals *consistently* believe that everything we say is 100% sincere, because of Hollywood Autism, where we all have superpowers and see mathematical equations in the air, while simultaneously thinking that autism = stupid and our every whim must be humored. Chris is *incredibly* selective in his delusions. Idea Guys and Isabella tell him he's got superpowers and that Jesus banged the Virgin Mary, he's completely down for that and truthfully answers anything they think to ask. Null tells him how he can put in the barest amount of effort and build up real friendships with real people, and Chris constantly lies to him and treats him like an idiot, thinking that Null would somehow not notice Chris stealing money from his mother's account. Chris went to college. They were able to handle mortgage payments. They can feed and clothe themselves. They can link multiple full complete sentences to describe a complete concept, while being distracted by road noise and the excitement/stress of a road trip, in a way that a neurotypical can easily understand. Unless Chris's neurologist shows up, being able to diagnose him with stupid isn't in anyone's wheelhouse. If you watch the extra footage of Chris playing Tetris, they speak normally and sneak in any insult they can, then immediately change the pitch of their voice and not look directly at anyone, when someone seems to notice.
@@averysspookshowspectacular6205 Children have a habit of retreating into fantasy worlds to cope with stressful and uncomfortable situations. Not going to lie, I did that myself when I was young. However, as they grow up, they learn how to deal with such situations in a mature and responsible manner. Chris never learned how to do that because he lacks the emotional maturity to do so. As a result, he just kept retreating deeper and deeper into his fantasies to the point where he cannot escape, and does not want to.
I dispute that the incident where his babysitter stuck him in a dark room actually happened. He had a habit of rewriting history. I think his parents also had a habit of doing this. Chris had verbal problems due to being autistic. I can totally imagine his parents blaming this on a fabricated incident. They had limited misunderstanding of his condition and seemed ashamed of it, so it's easy to imagine them coming up with a story and Chris internalising it.
I feel so bad for Jessi Slaughter.. she was telling the truth about Dahvie Vanity the entire time, and while she was being relentlessly trolled for coming out about it, he was abusing other girls. She was a compulsive liar but she was also a victim, and those trolls were absolutely tormenting her.
I don't feel bad for any of these fucks. The internet is human nature amplified. You all know or don't know what you're getting into. Regardless, you assume all risk knowing or not, when you log on. Get stronger and smarter or get absolutely chewed up.
Was Dahvie Vanity ever punished for his assault? I found an article from a few years ago that several people including Damien, aka Jessi Slaughter, spoke out to report Dahvie.
I've known about Chris Chan for nearly a decade now. I heard of all his sperging, the death of his dad, his toxic relationship with his mom, horrible living situation, and all the trolling he's been through. I knew the endgame for Chris was not going to be good, but I had no idea it was going to be that unbelievably dark... I'd really like to imagine the alternate reality where Chris was raised properly because I'd like to imagine how many of the world's problems that could have been avoided if parents just did their jobs the right way.
speaking on that alternative chris reality, what if the sonichu comics were similar to tails gets trolled? tails gets trolled is a work of sonic internet history, that while did have a sloppy artstyle and plot, became insane and genuinely interesting. imagine what the sonichu comics could’ve been like if chris had been raised right, and she hadn’t ever been manipulated by trolls. the sonicchu comics, and chris chan herself, probably wouldn’t have been known so infamoudly.
In all honesty, Chris Chan has always been an enigma to me. His sheer mental state and actions make me ponder about his well being and existence pretty regularly to be honest. There’s that slight bit of humanity when it comes to Chris where you feel bad for him, but then you remember how bad of a person he really is due to his parents and himself. Seeing Chris Chan’s life is like seeing a car crash and catch on fire that is full of murderers. You feel bad at first, but then… nothing. You just have to stare and watch at the total dumpster fire that is Chris Chan’s life.
Finally someone pronounced his sex correctly! Chris even admitted he changed his gender to complete love quest easily. Did I say he despises men and can't even stand looking at his own pickle- Err, I mean duck?
At the end of the day, I don't think this is Chris's fault. He's always been out of touch with reality and his parents are to blame for that. Things would be alot different if he had gotten proper treatment when he needed it the most. His lack of association with reality is probably his biggest downfall. Thus he is easily manipulated and gullible by the many people who want to take advantage of that. Even with the claims of incest have to be questioned despite being apparently true. It's hard not to put it past him. But it seems that people may very well have manipulated him into doing that, or saying that he did as he would have no clue as to what the implications would have been. At the end of the day, I see this as torment of a mentally ill individual and I'm pretty sure things would be better if the internet had not become a part of his life.
Another hilarious notion is that for the first time in his life, Chris ACTUALLY had a girl who was interested in him and wanted to be with him…. and he ignored her and shrugged her off to be with his mom and keep talking to Janke, the worst troll of them all. Chris was always his own worst enemy, not Clyde, Michael Snyder or MLW
@@Proseless Fiona was a piece of garbage: not only she had a boyfriend while sending Chris pics of her boobas (allegedly), she also fetishized the old Chris as she (also allegedly) had a fetish for gross men. She was not True and Honest, and was basically a Honey Pot. Edit: she had no problems with cheating on her BF , with Chris from all people, so sweet my ass. She just chased after a weird fetish. There are no good guys in this story, stop looking for them.
@@Proseless She didnt dodge a bullet because shes now in a mental hospital because of all the trolls. Telling people man... Trolls fucked everything up and worse, despite chris being a problem
I dunno, I kinda don't. She helped created this monster. She also likes to play up illnesses for the camera to get more sympathy for more donations. She's a psycho narcissist, imo. She fought so hard to refuse help for Chris as a child which ultimately made him this way, on top of her never helping curb his behaviors as a mother. She taught him to blame everything he does wrong on Autism. I feel bad for Chris and Bob though. Chris is mentally ill. It is mentally impossible for him to think like we do. He does know what's wrong and right tho, but the trolls help egg him on in wrong directions too.
she looked like her soul has escaped. or rather, she's still somewhere but its not inside her body. those eyes look like she seen true form of shock and terror.
This guy's everywhere I swear. Permanent enemy doesn't hit as hard since you've blown up... but yknow them smash bros bars are appreciated. Wombooo comboooo That ain't Falco.
This whole story is a grim reminder that attitudes toward mental illness, especially those held by law enforcement and the legal system, are still way off from where they should be. Nobody received justice here, not Chris, not his mom, and definitely not the trolls.
Yeah, it's some sad shit. _Some people just want to watch the world burn._ But I'm not worried about the trolls getting justice. They'll be living with themselves until the day they die and maybe they get some sense of control and meaning out of causing real harm to people, they will never know how it feels to be loved for who they are - it will always be fake and with hidden agendas. And to be fair, it's what they know, so it's an easy game for them and they'll probably never know what they're missing or care to view it as anything but a weakness and vulnerability to exploit, giving them a feeling of strength when people around them show integrity and sincerity, but as a sincere person with integrity whose life is only possible because people around me value me for who I am, I can tell you that everyone needs someone to trust and rely on every now and again and it's pretty fucking pathetic if the only way to get that is to have some dirt on everyone around to to force them into fake loyalty. And again, it gives them a sense of power to have that control over people, but they'll never be happily surprised by a spontaneous idea of someone who loves them - all ideas have to come from that one warped mind. Imagine how small your world would be if all that happens in your life is you controlling everything and everyone around you and everything out of your control is a threat to you. You know, honest people, honest criticisms, actual information. That's exactly what they need to keep out of their lives to maintain control and control is the only thing they have until they don't, or are inevitably stabbed in the back, or when someone has some dirt on them to change them from the abuser into the victim and no amount of honesty or sincerity will help them get out of that. They'll be stuck with their self imposed illusions forever. A prison for their mind. Chris at least can remember that when she fucked up, she didn't know better and when she did, she learned. She's convicted and I would have loved to have her live in the country where I live. Her sentence would've been changed to mental help. Punishing her for not knowing better and having no one to look after her and having tons of people taking advantage of her like a clown doesn't help anyone; it teaches nothing. All she needs is a handful of people to care enough to help her get on her feet and let her see herself for who she is. She'll see she is a good person, mistakes and all, deserving of a good life. In her cell she has more freedom than those trolls will ever have.
One of the things literally every video seems to not mention at all is the absolutely horrific child abuse that Chris's mom supposedly perpetrated, according to Chris's older half brother. If she did even a little of what he claims, there is no torture too extreme for her. And the detail he gives, I can't see all that being lies... She is truly a monster
Well, I disagree in some regards. What then makes of people like Chris-chan? Clearly, they cannot fit in society. We can't force them to get therapy either without breaking a few ethical issues, and ofc you agree that throwing them in an asylum is worse. What then? Better government programs? After that, send them out to the greater public? I believe that there are people who are too unique to conform and live within society, for better or for worse. For that reason, I do think Chris got justice in some way. Chris was removed, and placed somewhere where they can't harm themselves, and nobody can harm them. After all, what else can be done? There is no changing the trolls who got to him, and there is no changing Chris either.
I was there at Too Many Games 2018. I was able to meet Chris Chan, get a signature, and was given a small hawkeye figure (he was giving out these tiny avengers character things). It was a very strange moment for me. My friend likely still has the Sonic games he got signed by Chris Chan. I was not in the conference room picture but I was there at that event. Chris got to ask a question and his attempt at forming it in person was itself a unique thing to watch. I later saw Chris Chan in his curled up state but did not see him be removed from the event.
Now I'm picturing the court case being a back-and-forth of different videos involving Chris. The defense pulls out footage showing stuff that the trolls did to him, while the prosecution responds by showing him wishing death on people over minor slights and almost literally any interaction he has with women.
The fact that Chris’ biggest screw up came around his better days on the internet is a testament to his life. This person has been pushing a boulder up a hill and having it tumble back down their entire life.
No one trolls Chris better than Chris. If anything trolls messing with him actually kept him contained for years because the instant they left him alone he self destructs. It wasn't mentioned in the video but Chris wasn't the only person who hit Michael. They switched seats and Barb hit him again. Chris got away with stuff like that purely because even the law could tell his life is horrible and hes incapable of escaping it. In Chris' own words "I'm in a hell of my own!"
@@Brandonhayhew He has been is OWN worst enemy... If there was a DEVIL, than well clearly he would blush on how truly horrible Chris Chan is to himself.
Every time people tried to be kind to Chris, all it did was make Chris incredibly smug and more demanding. He sees other people only as servants and concubines.
it's honestly sad how their parents didn't really try to help them with their issues from their autism...they just let Chris do what they wanted, and the landslide just began...
Both of Chris's parents are absolute monsters. They created a monster. It's no surprise how Chris turned out. 20 years earlier and Chris would have been the creepy guy working at a supermarket that parents kept kids away from. The internet gave Chris an outlet they he shouldn't have had.
@@Solanin0803Chris only identified as a woman because he thought it'd get him women. And frankly, that's downright insulting to anyone with genuine gender dysphoria.
@@americanphoenix249 Oh please there are far worse parents than these two the worst these two have ever done was not being there for Chris and letting pop media raise him while you have parents out there who have molested their own kids and did other horrific stuff to their kids, so calling them monsters is incorrect when the real monsters are the types I listed above.
Just when things where finally looking up they took their worst turn to date. This is a sad, sad story, but I'm glad someone was here to tell it with respect. Thank you for this documentary!
I agree! I've been consuming a good amount of Chris-Chan related content because I have no life, but this is by far the best I've found in giving a more true and unbiased account. I think it's helped to show some people that Chris wasn't JUST someone who did...what they did to their mother, but was also a victim of things as well.
It breaks my heart how he falls for everything hook line and sinker. There's a difference between trolling and taking advantage of someone. (Yes, I know he r*ped his mom and it's fucking disgusting.)
Right. Good trolls don't punch down, they go after shitty people. Chris isn't really that great of a person at all, but he's just a weird dude with disabilities that should have been left the hell alone. Liquid and Alec were great trolls because they were almost harmless parodies. But Blue Spike, Isabella, and Clyde Cash were just fucking awful.
Ummm... your heart might break less for Chris further into this story. I mean, sure, hate the trolls, I do, all of them, but save your heart for better things.
As someone who grew up with autism, Chris's story really triggers me in a special kind of way. I feel as if this could've happened to me because I was easily manipulated into stupid things and I obsessed with internet culture rather than the real world. I am so glad my parents made sure that I got involved in outdoor activities and limited my screen time; I'm especially glad that my parents did enroll me in special-ed even though I hated that decision at the time. Though Chris isn't a great person, I can't help but feel sorry for the abuse he endured.
He was horibly tortured. Here I am watching this, and Geno Samuel's documentary, but I don't condone the awful things that Chris was baited into doing. Thank goodness for you, having the structure, and guidance you do. Chris was pretty clueless to continue documenting every aspect of his life on the Internet.
definitely. you can see how awful it was how they treated him, how his parents failed him, etc. but i’m glad we can also still say we hate the things he’s done and hold him responsible for those things.
Seeing Chris in the beginning of this video is... weird. He's having an actual conversation where he isn't angry or the villain. It's like if everyone in his life actually gave him the time to go on his level and explain what he did is wrong I feel he could of been much better. But alas the trolls got to him first and fed his desires and then dropped him. Now he's become the monster he hated.
"To go on his level and explain what he did is wrong" That's never, ever worked. Even well before the trolls and Chris's belief that he was god of Toontown, nobody was able to get through to him with that approach.
@@reloadpsi Isn't it amazing the amount of people that like to act as if Chris could have been saved? Why can't people understand the simple fact that Chris was fucked a long time ago because of his parents, as well as his obsession with posting his craziness on the internet. Trolls or no trolls, he was fucked either way. Many people already tried talking to him and tried to get him to see reason. As has already been said, it didn't work. On multiple occasions, it didn't work.
@@reloadpsi Unfortunately that's just how Asperger's Syndrome works, it's the story of every boy with it. As someone who had gone to a special school, people like Chris-Chan aren't rare, most simply aren't televised.
This should be a cautionary tale told to parents with autistic children, if you fail them and shelter them long enough eventually they will turn out at best psychologically damaged and at worst a monster
It's a cautionary tell of " Why to wear a condom ", "Raise your children right", and "Diagnosis as early as possible". Barbara is somewhat the culprit all along in the situation as the step brother mentions " She was awful ".
@@MaoRatto never be weak but never forget Chris Chan. Pay close attention to your kids and force to them to see what being kid would lead to be like Chris
Early on Chris was just a lonely guy with severe developmental disability, he later become more of a horrible person. Definitely wrong what they did and just made him even worse. The others were just evil people who got off on tormenting a mentally handicapped guy
A horrible person who may not have turned out so horrible if he had gotten the developmental help he needed as a child, much less if a gaggle of Internet neckbeards hadn't made it their life's mission to completely ruin his very perception of reality beyond repair.
I finally got through the whole documentary after a few days. The drawing of Chris Chan in jail transitioning into Chris Chan locked in the closet as a kid gave me the feels.
I'm the same age as Chris. A few months older, actually. My grandparents are the same age as Chris' father. I cannot imagine my grandparents, raising a child, at that age. They'd do exactly what Bob and Barb did. Allow TV and Video Games, to babysit/raise the child. That's the issue.
I'm ten years younger than Chris, and sure my upbringing probably contributed to me not having much of a chance, but I at least an capable of work and doing activities I enjoy. (Such as martial arts) I'm a daydreaming nerd who also enjoys video games, but Chris was a lost cause right from the beginning. I'm just glad I never turned out like my parents, who are also incompetent morons. It's one of the reasons why I've chosen not to have kids.
My mum and I have roughly the same age gap that Chris has with his mother (my mum is thirteen years younger than Barbara, I'm ten years younger than Chris) and, to add to the similarities, I also have autism (and other debilitating, fun, hereditary stuff). But my mum is a good mother, always worried about me, disciplined me when I was being an idiot, pushed me to be independent and to be a functioning member of society, and she made it while being a single mother and without knowledge of autism (I was diagnosed in my late twenties). I can't say I'm the most functional of humans (I know I'm not), and my multiple illnesses don't help, but I can confidently say that the problem doesn't lie with the age gap, but with the fact that Chris'parents should have never had kids.
There was an entire generation of people missing from that little family. Barb and Bob should've raised the person who birthed Chris. THAT parent might not have been so unbelievably out of touch, not leaving Chris ultimately entirely defenseless.
And probably how chris' parents failed to be as parents and how they refused to give chris special ed and all. I'm not sure if that will happen but it's possible since TGFM talked about that on the SomeOrdinaryPodcast.
@@kitkatkass3079 None of this would happen and I mean none none NONE. We won't know the existence of chris chan, we wouldn't know about Geno Samuel, the documentaries wouldn't exist, everything and everyone involved with chris in any way wouldn't be there.
@@warlis4767 In a world I never heard of Chris, that would be ideal. Considering I fell down the rabbit hole of Christory, I realized how much time I wasted gaining insight of this massive prick. His lore is like a bad drug you can’t get sober from.
Of all the vids I have seen about Chris-Chan, this series by far the best. That last shot of Chris's drawing of being locked in a closet as a child, superimposed with the drawing of being imprisoned as an adult hit hard. Despite my disgust, I can't help but feel pity for Chris. You've done a great job.
These drawings were not by Chris. This is the only thing I found irritating about the otherwise great documentary: It was not made clear which drawings were by Chris and which were by 'Top Drawer Art' (see credits). Whenever the linework is clear and the backgrounds have repeating patterns (because they're done digitally, something Chris-Chan would apparently never do), it's not by Chris.
I still always feel so bad for Fiona whenever I hear about her. Imagine being attracted to *that* in the first place. Then he rejects you in favor of a hamster boiler.
Crazy how his life became full circle. He started his childhood locked in a room. Now he will spend the rest of his life in a room. His life was slowly improving and was going to be the ultimate internet comeback story only to have it come crashing down completly. This is truly sad but not surprising. This happens to alot of autistic people but since they never get trolled or any fame like this. Chirs chan is truly unique
that's poetic, it all started with him locked in his room by a babysitter, now years later, locked in a padded room, waiting for trial, believing he's Jesus.
Your foolish, to think this would be the world's best internet comeback story, he was doomed from the very start with his shit parents and his disability made him a target for bullies. Unfortunately humans are cruel stupid animals, and many would love to do nothing more than relish in the sadistic glee of tormenting a poor autistic child for the rest of his life.
What's crazy is that Chris had it all going into summer of 2021, and him, and only him, was the reason that he's where he is now. I'm glad there was the quip that "Well, I was horny.." when asked why he had sex with his mother. It's the fact of this whole episode, the horrible things Chris has done have been completely devoid of trolls, and the now famous quote that Chris is his own biggest troll.
@@vulpsturm outside the idea guys and that Jeff and the fake girlfriend Jessica Quinn or Katerine. a lot of Chris going into the tomgirl/Trans lesbians stuff to much of 2021 was not all trolling or catfishing
@@vulpsturm also really shot himself in the foot there, admitting he was fully aware of what he was doing is going to make an insanity defense or argument that he was manipulated into it a lot harder
I came here was because of Neptunia. Some Neptunia fans hated that guy and i had to go through an extensive research on this until i came across this. While im -mildly autistic- that had access to the internet earlier in my childhood, i didnt know him neither until 2022, because im just too very naive.
This story has just evil people written all over it. Like Jesus Christ, I get the internet is the internet, but there are some legitimate demons out there. Nor defending Christine's actions but with no grip of reality, it takes an evil person to do trolling like this. It's not even trolling, it's straight harassment to a mentally ill person.
While I agree with you, Chris brought it on himself, or rather, his parents by allowing him unrestricted access to the internet (especially the far wilder early 2000s internet)
There is something so poethically ironic in Null, the de facto leader of the trolling community, taking the reins of Chris' life for him, giving him a job/house/responsabilities, only for Chris to throw all of that out the window
No. Foster is awful. He would have been badly damaged and had an crappy life. The only meaningful difference would be that he wouldn't have had access to funds to buy lots of stuff and wouldn't have great access to the internet. Well, at least then he wouldn't be bullies by internet trolls, only real bullies. The world is hard, especially those like Chris Chan. He needed better parents or a better family.
@@rabidfirefox8914 Theres a number of people who had gone into foster care and came out fine. Is it fucking awful? yes. But honestly, his chances would only improve if he went to foster care.
If he was put in foster care he probably would have murdered them and blamed sonicchu for the crime. He's crazy and has always been that way. Autism doesn't make people act like he did.
According to a Turkey Tom video, her parents have a lot of money and power, and she’s done other bad things and got away with it. She’s not going anywhere anytime soon unfortunately
I think the biggest thing to take away from this situation is how horrible people will treat others with mental disabilities. Several pages and forums were created to bully, incite, and judge Chris Chan which further exasperated the problems this guy was dealing with. Unfortunately Chris Chan didn't have the support to make the best choices in life and we all got a front row ticket to his down fall. Take care of each other on this planet we are stuck here whether we like it or not.
@@ethanmccormack9561 People like are what makes you the world a terrible place. Chris from the start was very mentally unstable and had no clue of how to deal with the trolls. They could of just stop, shave their neckbeards, and contribute even the bare minimum to humanity, but they didn't. Chris is the fucking victim here.
@@ethanmccormack9561 Yes, he really did. It's one thing to feel sympathy for him, it's quite another to act as if the trolls really made him worse. Most of them didn't. And Chris chose on his own to continue going on the internet and making those stupid videos. He is solely at fault for his actions. Even fucking his mom. He is at fault. Though Isabella should be in prison herself.
@@ethanmccormack9561 True, but no sane person would ever see them as accountable. Ironically, the first two statements in your comments just feel like a convenient excuse to not change or better yourself.
@@ethanmccormack9561 that’s a lazy excuse that lets bad people get away with bad shit. There’s plenty of people doing hard work to make the world a better place. Chris did a lot of horrendous things and is responsible for those things. And these trolls are responsible for all of the filth that they committed against a vulnerable, mentally ill person. Hold them accountable for their actions. And grow up a little bit next time before you start talking about how horrible the world is. If you think it’s so bad, get up and fix it.
One of my absolute favorite parts of his Saga is where he goes undercover and tries to infiltrate the trolls and they let him in, knowing full well who he was, and then demanded he make a video talking shit about himself and he did it with a poor disguise lmao
That's what makes this saga so tragic. If Chris's parents did some actual parenting instead of letting pop culture media raise him while giving him the support he needed during his school days instead of being in denial of his special needs, he probably would have turned out okay.
That would have cut into their drinking time. Both his parents are monsters. They had no business having kids and the fact that none of their kids want anything to do with them is proof of how awful they are.
@@americanphoenix249 Oh please there are far worse parents than these two the worst these two have ever done was not being there for Chris and letting pop media raise him while you have parents out there who have molested their own kids and did other horrific stuff to their kids, so calling them monsters is incorrect when the real monsters are the types I listed above.
I like how Chris goes from "It's just me and my mom" to "Oh, and Magichan, Simonla, and everyone else. Alakazans! Y'all on the roof, keep doing a good work."
I went to the same school as Chris Chan, though I'm a bit younger. My first job was a fast food restaurant, and I used to see Chris Chan monthly. I also used to see him at the Sheetz gas station and Food Lion near my house at the time. It was surreal because I was standing next to this person I knew virtually everything about, but nobody else knew, and I never said anything because I didn't want to get involved. Thank you for putting this together. This was very interesting, and I hope Chris Chan is finally getting the help they were denied for so long.
@@TonytheTiger313 Thank you so much man. I was hoping he'd be 6'8" or my height(6'3") because I remember someone talking about Chris being tall as hell, and I think that'd be really funny if it were true, but sadly he's just average lmao
Those comments from Chris at the end about “healing his mother several times”, right after the previously revealed context, sent chills down my spine. The reveal you’re standing right next to a monster who is alluding to his crimes with a smile is downright frightening.
Chris Chan Sagas in a nutshell - The Phantom Girlfriend - Attack of the Trolls - Revenge of the Chris - A new Cope - Chris Strikes Back - Return of the Trolls
this truly is one of the most depressing tales in the entirety of internet history Chris was simply a man of delusion, he could've been something, he could've been as Bob described: A Hero Of Autism But instead, he was corrupted, he was cruelly taken and embraced by the worst of the internet and because of that, it led him down a path of misery and tragedy, instead of becoming a hero he became... a villain, an example of some of the worst aspects of autism even, he became a reminder to all of humanity of what not to do when it comes to people like this, his saga ended, his life has ended and now all we can do is hope for one thing... That the internet will never make... another man like Christian Weston Chandler But time will only tell and history could always repeat itself with another host, but until then... Godspeed everyone
Dude the internet makes people like this every tuesday just for shits and giggles. Lots of people end up mentally unstable, depressed or even kill themselves because of trolls. The internet has both the best and worst humanity has to offer.
@@super_burstmode3652 that's the dumbest thing I ever heard: just use the block function. Edit: extreme case, if social media isn't for you, why use it? Nobody holds you at gun point and forces you to use it. And you can still use it with a minimum of opsec. Like what do you want to do? Police the internet so everybody is nice and no conflicts occur? Sure, that won't be abused in 3 minutes to root out " dangerous thought criminals"
I still find it amazing how many times Chris found himself on mainstream media as well. He was on TV several times. Then you add the whole internet phenomenon and it just blows your mind.
You know, i'm baffled that after the fire incident he didn't decide to turn his life around for good. The second he started using support money to buy legos was the second one realizes he's truly gone and has no one to blame but himself. Chris chan story is a dreadful one and may every child that is on the spectrum grow into fine adults of sound mind and genuine love from family and friends because otherwise these things happen.
@@vulpsturm True, but he could have clawed his way up from that event like a real turning point. But instead he like quadrupled down on fucking his life.
@@Winasaurus What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'. As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.". As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?". I heavily encourage you to watch these 5 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html.
Being Autistic myself, I consider Chris-Chan to be an absolute tragedy. He could have had a great life, full of creativity and control. But instead, his parents raised him to be without any sort of self control. He lacked the ability to cope with the real, and the fantastic. He lived in a delusional world. Thankfully through my learnings and my own sense of self control, I was able to achieve a better life. I have what Chris-Chan never had: common sense. And watching Chris-Chan's downfall has made me glad I don't have to live through the traumas he endured. At least I'm not a member of 4-Chan, nor look at it at all. It's not of my interest.
@@craigdavidson5613 Yeah, what a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions. What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person. These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'. As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.". As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?". I heavily encourage you to watch these 5 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html.
Seeing him sit there and talk about "healing," Barb, makes my skin crawl. Because for those not in the know, on the matter, "healing" in this context, is Chris committing SA against his mother.
As an autistic person it’s always terrified me how easily I could’ve ended up like Chris if I had as bad and inattentive parents as chris did. Not to say every autistic person would turn out like this without proper guidance but I feel like this is a cautionary tale of what can happen if you don’t take your child’s mental health needs seriously. It’s very important for parents of autistic children to make sure their child still understands basic societal rules as good as possible at an early age, his parents clearly didn’t do that.
I will always go back to the Idea Guys for the main reason of Chris’ last drop of mental stability. As funny as the other trolls have been, the others had set boundaries and knew better than to extort a mentally unstable person, BlueSpike being an exception. If it wasn’t for the Idea Guys, I truly believe that some of the things that occurred after them would not have happened. (That might just be retrospective wishful thinking) Edit: We all knew that Chris’ mental state was bad as is. I meant that the Idea Guys pushed that past the limit it already was at
I get that, but Chris was already going off the deep end as far as that blur between fiction and reality goes. Idea Guys just made him come to an inevitable point faster.
@@Higfoot Chris had a call with Alec back in the Asperchu Saga where he calls Alec naïve for not believing in a "real" cartoon world and references Who Framed Roger Rabbit as an example. So you're right, that blur has existed for a looonnnnggg time unfortunately.
Dude this series is so good and its interesting and upsetting, BUT I remeber in high school we had a boy named "snake boy" that would hiss at ppl and cure them in snake speech. Everyone (my self included) would try to get cursed or toss change and watch him run after it... I had totally forgotten about this and I feel like crap now. Especially after being so upset at the trolls in this story. Tilhis has been a introspective and humbling series man, thank you
I feel like this is a story everyone has at some point, there would always be that one ‘weird kid’ at school and even if you didn’t take part in some of the messing with them, you still end up feeling somewhat complicit in it just by letting it happen, seeing stuff like Cwc makes you realise how they just needed help and just a safe space
Similar story here, except ours was a wolf boy that would growl and bark at people, and howl during school events. We'd try and get some reaction out of them in high school. Man remembering that makes me feel like shit.
I dont understand people like this, during highschool, you're no longer a kid, you're a literal teen, young teen at the very least, capable of actually think twice about something. Even if teens didn't have as much as foresight as adults. When I was in highschool I watch bunch if students bullying autistic students a lot, but I was too afraid to speak up against them, I could only watch.
@@jeanneann3545 I understand the anger, hell I feel angry at myself. Only thing I can say it yes I was a teen capable of thinking twice, however I (and many others) don't. Many of us "know" something is wrong but dont truly understand the full situation or impact. An example you even said you saw a kid get bullied and couldn't do anything. BUT that's never true. You are ALWAYS capable of doing something. Go get a teacher, get other students to speak out, tell your parents, principal, befriend the kids, etc. Sadly tho when you are a kid you can't see things all the way through and usually blinded by hormones and other peer pressures. I'm almost 30 now and it makes me happy seeing that's is finally not cool to smoke cigarettes or bully ppl. Lots more awareness about bullies and mental health. I hope it means we are moving in the right direction.
@@sebstenson9387 thing that makes it so strange is I was ruthlessly bullied and should of knew how crapy it was, but instead of letting it stop with me I'd be crappy to others or laugh along with what bullies were doing so they MAYBE leave me alone. School was such a weird time and place 😆 🤣.
I agree and disagree. His style has always remained an awkward rough draft done in crayon but like he has technically gotten better when it comes to proportions and variety of poses. Plus like someone mentioned above, it's not the art for newspaper comics ever improve either and you could argue that Chris is far more interesting and talented than some boring ass boomer that draws a Garfield strip
that clip you picked from your time with chris for the end was chilling, talking about his delusions more in detail especially in regards to the "healing" of barbara. so much stuff you filmed was fascinating, that the shining-esque repetition of "the dimensional merge is happening now" paper on his wall comes to mind. amazing series btw, i've been a follower of chris and fan of yours for a long time, i was so excited when this came out! it's great and what i've already been suggesting to friends that are curious about chris but find geno too overwhelming and the cwcki too confusing.
From searching for a boyfriend-free-girl to ending up as one himself, what a magical journey. edit, I never wanted to imply that Mr.Chandler was a girl, since the idea of men becoming women is preposterous. Funny how some will laugh at all CC's delusions except that one.
@@OdaSwifteye Literally what is it with you people trying to police everybody's language? It's ironic how you act like radical trans activists. I'll call "Chris" Christine and use she/her pronouns because that is how she chooses to identify. If you dont want to fine, just don't tell me how to talk twerp.
@@averyrathbun3859 well you are helping play into his delusion then. So if someone identifies as a horse and becomes sick can they go to a vet? Of course not. He clearly has mental problems and people like you actually encourage the problems to get worse.
@@ethanmccormack9561 So what? It's my choice to talk the way I want. Stop trying to police language. I don't see it as a delusion in this situation so I'm going to respect the pronouns. Clearly you are not. Clearly we don't see eye to eye on things. We can have that discussion but straight up don't tell me how to talk. You've undoubtedly heard the leftist response to deadnaming and misgendering and thought "they're just trying to silence opposing opinions". I agree. But try to be consistent and stop acting like you got any right to tell me how to talk when shoes on the other foot
@@averyrathbun3859 Treating a guy that has openly been on record saying he only does it to attract a lesbian and still to this day believes that homosexuality needs a vaccine as some kind of trans icon worthy of respect. Whatever, sure, you have the freedom to expose yourself as being so hopelessly gullible that even CWC can get one on you 🤣
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Did you ask her to wear the striped shirt and sonicchu medallion?
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Hey man, which one of the listed voice actors is doing the Chris Chan voice? It's right on the money.
I’m not gay
@@arcaderdude point being your?
"I didn't raise a daughter." Lady, you didn't raise anyone. That's the problem.
That's true... I have learning disabilities that come with a lot of similar challenges as what Chris went through as a kid/teen, and my mom was a huge help in giving me advice for what to do, and how to deal with overwhelming situations. She also supported me in seeking professional help and getting on medication to deal with the stress. Good parents make a huge difference, whether that's in providing help, or making existing issues worse.
I love your wing commander profile pic. Brings back memories.
Nice call put, very true.
Previous child grew to hate her, ignored essentials to improving Chris's mental state when she had the chance, let Chris be raised by video games and cartoons only, laid around all day in her junkyard house while her some made a fool of himself.
lmao
Let it sink in:
At the Regency Mall, Chris received the name Christian and began this saga.
At the Regency Inn, just across the street, Chris was arrested and ended this saga.
Edit: Of course it didn't end the saga. He always comes back. And he's free.
Wow, hadn't even realized.
ngl everything started to go downhill for him when he was locked in that closet and didnt speak for years after that
@@livesinsewersirl Very true.
Started in a dark room, ended in a dingy cell, honestly I'm not surprised.
That's what you call Bookends.
Everytime Barb pops up in this thing, I get these horrible waves of dread, knowing where this shit is gonna end up
Just watched Return of the Living Dead. She makes the Zombies look alive.
its like seeing anakin before he becomes darth vader
I was thinking the same thing🤮
On god I just feel bad for her
@@oxop6516 She was a bad mom (doesn't mean she deserved what happened to her just saying)
The idea that Chris Chan is probably sitting in that room alone, is extremely scary. Especially knowing that his delusions known as “Sonichus” are sharing that room with him but only in his eyes. This is a hell I wouldn’t wish on anyone.
Well, he now thinks he's Jesus Christ, or as he calls himself: Emmanuel.
He's Jesus Christ and still believes in his alternate dimensions too.
@@revisit8480 So he isn't a goddess anymore?
@@finnheisenheim8274 still a goddess just also Jesus. And a commodore 64 apparently...
@@CodeeXD I'm a super street fighter 2 turbo cabinet so I can understand his being a commodore 64
At least he wasn't to lonely with all those imaginary friends keeping him company.
The decision to change school districts to avoid special-ed was the worst thing Chris's parents could have done. Chris never really had a chance after that.
I always wonder how he would of turned out if Bob and barb got him therapy, put him on meds for his delusions & Maybe less close-minded people.
I always wonder how he would of turned out if Bob and barb got him therapy, put him on meds for his delusions & Maybe less close-minded people.
Damn thats sad. Getting him help might/probably would have changed his life and none of this would have happened
Not introducing Barb to Mr. Coat Hanger was their first mistake.
@@DeltaPi314 yikes dude. YIKES.
Chris talking about “healing” Barbara was really unsettling. If only we had known sooner.
This isn't the first time he referenced being interested in her
Yeah. But the most disturbing part is people literally talked to him face to face while the whole mess took place.
For someone who claims to have godly powers he can’t give an explanation why he can’t leave lock up
I am sad about all of this crazyness
Chris' whole life is one big foreshadow/Chekov's Gun.
This whole saga is like a decades long sitcom. There’s no hugging, no learning. Everything resets each episode, and there’s a colorful cast of memorable characters that pop in every now and then.
Its like a somehow more fucked up version of Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia.
Yeah.
Yes a sitcom that ends in him molesting his mother
I remember that funny episode of friends where Ross fucked his demented mother over and over again
Any laugh track?
As someone on the spectrum myself, it honestly terrifies me how easily I could have ended up like Chris Chan to some degree had my parents not fought tooth and nail to give me the proper support I needed growing up. 😳
I don't think you have anything to worry about. Regardless of how bad your autism is it doesn't make you commit incest on your on mother. That's something entirely different. Some people are just sick.
Right?? Imagine if they were lazy, cruel, neglectful, or even autistic themselves; I've got a sneaking suspicion about Barb and Bob's true respective capacities
Good to hear you had loving, attentive parents!
@@lemonadelunacy3291 Very much agreed.
Good parents really do make a world of difference in a child's life, neurotypical or no and I'm grateful for mine.
As far as Bob and Barb's poor parenting is concerned, it comes down to the two of them being alcoholics and far too overprotective of Chris rather than any autistic tendencies on their part.
After all, there are many parents on the spectrum that are just as capable of caring for their children as anyone.
@@autisticscreechling4950 I agree that there are plenty of autistic parents who take wonderful care of their children; my statement was not to say that isn't true. I only meant that the two of them (B&B) specifically have had precisely zero learning or training or behavior modifications as far as their own selves are concerned, so I imagine it would have been absolutely atrocious in that.household with two adults who don't understand that they've got the same.sorts.of problems as their son, and being unwilling to accept that fact and certainly not ready to do anything about it nor work toward bettering that aspect.of their lives. I bet it was hell in that household.
Throw the hoarding into the mix, and what it must have smelled like, and you can guarantee it was not a happy, healthy place to be. 😭
Again, I was never trying to say that autism=automatically bad parenting 🖤🖤
Isabella wanted to be the “best troll ever” but there was no topping the purity that was Liquid Chris
Liquid Chris was the perfect troll in my opinion because he never did anything malicious to Chris-chan directly. He just did everything he did, but better. Which drove him insane to no end.
shes an animal abuser and needs to be jailed, but i am glad she exposed what chris was doing because that is beyond sick
@@grimms8783 wait liquid chris was a real person lol
I personally disagree. Alec Benson Leary made a whole webcomic, and some of the most interesting calls with Chris
Liquid Chris and Alec Benson Leary were the best trolls.
Fun fact, there's an episode of the Sonic Boom TV show, called "The Biggest Fan" that features a character named "Mark the Tapir", an obsessed fan, who's a not so subtle parody of Chris Chan. The writers denied basing it of of Chris, but there's a lot of very obvious references including dressing Sonic up to look like Sonichu, orange soda, and Sonic's arms.
There’s also the scene with the “no pickles on my burger! I HATE PICKLES!”
I agree that Mark wasn't based on Chris-chan, but rather on the bad people in the fandom in general. Yes there are references to him like the color of the legs and fanta, but he is not the sole basis of the character.
@@WingMaster562 the episode plot is just a parody of misery
Chris actually saw that episode and claimed to see no resemblance between him and Mike because he is "not crazy like that".
Make of that what you will.
@oddbiku "Yeah, I don't really care for that, but it seems to be obligatory in the genre."
(Sonally is better, anyway.)
When it flashed back to a picture of Chris as a kid my heart broke, thinking of how differently things could have gone if only he'd had more capable parents and no internet connection.
Agreed, Chris isnt a "good" person but there's no doubt that the circumstances set before she/him by the internet influenced how it turned out for chris
And no trolls
@@KimVerhaaff trolls will always exist no matter what, it's 2022 now so people know when to not give someone who is obviously a troll the attention they are craving
@@ryandowling1045 him, he banged his mother, he is in a male jail, he was born a male.
@@rodgerdodger5 Keep in mind that people with autism don't know how to handle being bullied, or even tell when they are.
Chris might be the worst tragedy of a life I’ve ever heard of on the internet the trolling mixed with his parents mistreating him and making him growing almost completely impossible is somewhat disturbing
I know, its sad that there could be other people that grew up the same way too...
It is very distrubing
the letter Bob wrote to Chris before his death is really sad
he would be horrified if he found out what his son did a decade after his death
His CWCville reincarnation seems like a secondary hell. Because now he has to approve of everything Chris does.
He’d probably be more concerned about the county finding out about the shitty state his house is in again
@@whoknowswhocares885 Jesus.. like his conscious transers to the CWCville realm and has no free will? that is pretty terrifying
@@Whoisthiskid1 Whatever concoction/mess of illnesses that Chris Chan likely includes a lot of mental illnesses/patterns, known, and unknown, psychologist should study his history, behaviour, in depth, horrifying disturbing as it may be, can be used for the betterment of mental illness treatment, understanding our world, and the betterment of man so this tragedy of a man will never happen again.
the sad thing is bob was there at the beginning of it, and really hated his new direction
As an autistic person myself, I feel this is a prime example of when you A) have parents that clearly don’t give a shit
B) let the kid do whatever they want no matter how disruptive or fucked up.
It seemed that Chris’s parents more or less gave up on him after he left community college and hardly ever interacted with him unless he made things inconvenient for them.
@@HerrDeutschBlood If they'd just have listened and put the guy in an appropriate class for the difficulties that they had, then CWC might not be CWC.
You forgot C) instill in their kid a sense of unbridled entitlement, delusions of grandeur/specialness well beyond healthy self esteem and the message that your problems or mistakes are everyone’s fault and responsibility, except yours.
As Vidalion lightly put it, Chris's parents where unequipped to deal with him. Barb is the worst parent you could ask for and Bob was fighting a losing battle, try as he might. Both their perspective on Chris and how to go about his problems where outdated and due to horror stories during their youth, opted to keep Chris out of programs that otherwise could of made him a better person. They where clearly protective of Chris, but this only made things worse.
I'd like to think Bob's age was his biggest limiting factor. He may have been homophobic and racist but he also was the only person trying to instill Chris with values. Chris misunderstood Bob's advice along with Bob doing anything to make Chris successful including boosting his ego (downplaying Autism and villainizing Asperger's clearly came from Bob to instill Chris that he was above other people) and to his credit, it worked. Barb on the other hand only created a monster. I'm sure she was why they left Chris to go drinking, her hoarding only set horrible standards for Chris and her mental stability was tied to her husband. Anything Bob could do to help Chris would only be ruined by the examples set by Barb.
Honestly if they raised Chris closer to their prime around the 60's Chris would be a better individual as Bob was trying to set Chris up for functioning in a society that better fits an era long lost. He was clearly aware he wouldn't be there to guide Chris when he needed it. One of their fatal flaws, that being they had no idea how to deal with Chris's consumption of modern media and how absorbed Chris became with it can be tied to their advanced age. All this and more is why Chris is a fascinating human, people theorize the absolute worst modern society can produce and Chris is the living example, the exception.
Agreed. This is what can happen when people like us don't have the support bases that we need.
What I feel people seem to be unable to grasp, is that Chris is definitely more developmentally disabled than seems to be recognized. His parents never wanted to acknowledge this, because back when they were young, being mentally disabled would make it extremely difficult to live life at all. Chris would never be able to live a normal life, but if he were able to get the support he needed, he might have been able to live a peaceful life grounded in reality.
He might’ve been able to get a simple job
For a few years now I've been saying this. Had he not been mainstreamed, and instead put in a special school and later a group home for developmentally disabled adults, it would have been a far more humane life for him. He could be playing with toys and helping out around the home, maybe providing assistance to people with worse disabilities and feeling good about making a difference to others while staying grounded with real relationships. It's cruel that a man with his mental limitations has been "abandoned" like this.
Yea i think people never realize that this is honeslty more sad than funny, the internet abused this man.
All Chris had to do was to stay off the Internet in order to live a more peaceful life, but his huge ego as well as his constant craving for attention kept bringing him back online again and again for more trolling.
@@quinncupp5365 i doubt it
Chris-chan is the ultimate cautionary tale of what happens if you let the internet raise your kids, documentaries on him should be required viewing for new parents.
am i the only one who thinks that the iPad kids are gonna be the new chri chans
@@robproductions2599 I don't think so, because there are more factors playing a role.
@@Mann_mit_Kaffee dude, take it from me, there’s no way that in the current internet climate my generation will turn out like Chris Chan. Annoying and distracted, yes, but be damned if we come close to the level of Chris Chan’s degeneracy.
I'd say its more of what happens when an autistic individual is denied a proper support system at a time when they need it most. That and when you fail to establish proper social norms.
@@robproductions2599 I have a friend raising their 4yo by letting her scroll on TikTok all day and yeah I think those ones are doomed lol
Just lost one of our cats due to sickness and I feel so bad for Scamper, living in a hoarder's house and dying in a fire is so sad.. RIP lil guy.
Chris called animal control on the neighbor's cat and got it put down because it scratched him
WHAT THE FUCK
He probably had a good time trying to kill off the bug infestation leading up to the fire
@@lesyeuxsansvisage1157 the poor cat didn't want to be absorbed by the hoard... So he got put down
@@DeltaPi314 "the hoard"
Part of the Crew, Part of the Ship!
Respectfully when was Chris Chan not in a constant state of downfall
Somewhere in an alternate universe Chris is the coolest chad ever documented.
His downfall started when he was trolled consistently from 2009-2010.
You’d think two full years of getting trolled online would be a giant hint to stay off the internet, but nope.
I would say his downfall began with the “love quest”
Not as respectful as The Upchucks!
1993
"They took the only thing she had left; her imagination"
A genuinely tragic and chilling statement.
Honestly the biggest takeaway from this whole saga imo should be that the cruelty of online trolls knows no bounds. Absolutely subhuman behaviour to systematically ruin everything dear to a person. :(
What imagination? Most of Chris' works were just cheap rip-offs/hodge-podges of other People's works.
@@NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle what? If I imagine spiderman and mario fighting than that is my imagination. Just because it was unoriginal that doesnt mean it wasnt a meaningfull safe resort for chris chan, which was taken away.
@@NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle create the fucking Smario-man please, just fcking do it
@@joaquinelorrieta4203 smarioman vs sonichu
I’m also high functioning autistic, and I feel as if I’m a light mirror of Chris. We’re both sonic fanatics, love drawing, and get along more with women, but I still have many guy friends. But unlike him, I have a goal in life, and that’s not being a God, as I’m working to be a marine biologist.
I’m high functioning autistic, too. And I watch these videos every now and then to remind myself of where not to go. I’m hoping to be a novelist, and I’m going back to a school to study hospitality and open my own BnB
Is anyone here a marine biologist?
@@kumardickshit1530 asperger here, I tried but couldn't. It's fine anyway because I prefer part 7
I sure hope you don't lightly mirror him in your relationship to your mom. Jk
Getting along with women is something Chris is not good at.
No one, absolutely no one, goes this deep in Chris Chan lore and comes out clean.
Eww... 😅
Dude needs to get a Medal of Honor
Geno
@@TuberoseKisser right? This man is disrespecting the king.
@@Leotv1948 It’s a goddamn modern day Greek tragedy
The fact that the Chris Chan trolls who have so many instances of borderline torture respected his fathers death and gave him space for a while. Then think about jacksepticeye a beloved public figure and HIS fathers death,
Ikr why did everyone bully jack for so long? Was really weird I was seeing it in comments of random unrelated videos by other people.
Can I ask what happened during that? I don't really follow up with youtubers nowadays unfortunately
@@longpigpie3584 troll
@@puma8262 basically Jack's dad died and people started making bots to spam comments saying things like "jacksepticeyes dad is burning in hell" and terrible disrespectful things like that
@@Player-jh4ko I get that but why him and why this? Seemed a bit too random idk
I really wish Bob Chandler had the strength to permanently cut off internet access for Chris when things were starting to get out of hand. I truly believe had Chris gone near fully offline from 2008/09 to the time Bob passed away. That would have been just enough time for people to permanently lose interest in Chris and move on to the next lolcow of the month.
If only....
If Bob had cut internet and not pay any bills to the internet. It would have saved Chris from idea guys and Bella. Chris would just give up on sonichu
He should have cut down that internet once and for all.
yeah if bob was more strict, i still think Chris wouldn't have been changed of anything but the interest of him would be low and set only back as something people around town only know
I think once Chris got access back to it he’d propel himself straight back into the spotlight. He’s too narcissistic to not to.
Just a reminder that the internet is nobody’s friend. Unfortunately Chris Chan never learned this lesson.
The internet is a horrible place where humanity's disgust true colors come out.
The internet is my friend guys
Bruh internet is my friend i just know how to choose an pick friends and to know when not to engage stupid people with too much time on there hands XD
Never should you let the government do parenting for your kids, then we all become government daddy's children.
@@crackaddict3977 w0t???
The drawing of him alone in prison being a callback to him in the closet...
It left me speechless. This man's life was treated as a comedy when it was the greatest tragedy in internet history.
I totally forgot about that closet incident... damn..
Chris chan was the closest thing we had to a real life truman show
We live in a society, batman. heh heh we sure do live in a society. (takes a long inhale of a cigarette and exhales while chuckling to himself)
What's that saying? "Comedy is just tragedy plus time"..certainly feels worth mentioning.
@@Steffert. i thought the same
Say what you want about Null, he was Chris's best friend. He unironically wanted Chris to be self-sufficient and went far out of his way to help.
He wasn't his friend but jersh definitely wanted the best for chris and even funded around 30k to chris after his house caught fire
I’m at the point where Robert died and Chris and Barb were in mourning, until Barb would get violently angry if Chris didn’t sleep in bed with her so that she may “call upon him”.
Was this like foreshadowing in real life?
Yet Chris blames him for ending up in jail. Null most likely regrets helping a sad and pathetic excuse of a man.
Null was better off not helping Chris
@@thehumenthing8504 When was this?
What a depressing ending to such an incredibly well informed documentary.
Its just a watered down Genosamuel, really.
I cant believe dudes whole life online like that has to suck
The picture of Chris-Chan in jail followed by the picture of him as a little boy locked in the closet was surprisingly powerful. The story went full circle. Overall, the saga of Chris-Chan is both horrifying and depressing. I felt sympathy for Chris-Chan for a long time until the incest raping. It can be argued where the blame lies for the events leading up to that, but Chris-Chan undeniably became a monster in the end.
Too bad he fucked up by believing that Chris Chan is actually trans even though he is faking it to get laid. Not to mention I WARNED him not to make that mistake but of course he didn’t listen.
@@vankook Except with Geno, its a slow grueling process. If someone is just learning of Chris Chan. (Which surprisingly there are.) Then a 60+ part documentary is a bit of a pill to swallow.
In my opinion, I think Fiona did the right thing leaking the phone call. The call would’ve been leaked no matter what anyway, and that psycho troll would have done awful things with the information. This was the best outcome, and it’s depressing.
That girl would’ve probably made him record it which would’ve been 100x worse
A case of the wrong person doing the right thing for the wrong reason
@@FavoredPizzawe have enough footage of him with blow up dolls already, glad we were spared, and glad barb wasn't humiliated that way.
It is genuinely disturbing watching Chris Chan talk about him seeing cartoon characters. It's like a little kid playing pretend or worse someone who's completely lost grasp on reality.
Ever been in a mental institution?
It's very similar.
@@A_RUclips_Commenter no. And I pray I'll never been in one.
He is absolutely unhinged
A little kid playing pretend is cute.
A middle aged man who's marbles are so lost they disappeared from this plane of reality, less so.
Though, what's even crazier is that like any cartoon character, he had a nemesis named Anthony LoGatto, aka, A-Log who is also autistic and went out of his way to rant obsessively on him, probably because he didn't want to be compared to him but failed
When I saw the trending topic "CHRIS CHAN DID WHAT" I looked him up thinking he was disgusting....but I made the worst mistake anyone can make... I went down the rabbit hole..
Having been following Chris for a couple years now, when the news broke we were all horrified but not particularly surprised
It dropped during a lull in activity too so it was a lot out of seemingly nowhere
I wont forget when i found out what chris chan did
You’re still rescuable up until you catch yourself binging the Geno videos again at 3 in the morning. See you on the other side, friend.
Once you pass the looking glass,there's no going back, you always end up irrevocably changed.
Everyone would have lived a more peaceful life if they never hear of Chris
Can we all appreciate Null for his attempts to help Chris, during all this? Of all the people involved in this mess, he tried more than anyone else to actually steer Chris in the right direction. If only someone like him had arrived sooner, this might still have been an amusing, ongoing story, rather than what actually happened...
He shouldn't have touched the poo. Other than that he was still the only person at Chris's side when shit hit the fan...
Well, that was until Chris lies to him about stealing money from Barb.
I didnt watch this but hope they included how he eats and freezes his come
few good deeds dont make a person good.
@@plantdaddy7738 I never said they did, but what he did was selfless. His intentions may have started off being to troll Chris, but they evolved into something much better
@@plantdaddy7738 No, but a genuine change of heart does, and it's clear Null wanted to make things right. He showed real maturity by, you know, growing up and taking a bit of responsibility for the mess he'd created. The real tragedy is that it happened far too late to save Chris before his life devolved into the mess it eventually became
his "highly functioning" diagnosis was a severe misdiagnosis
@@brittanyb1931 Idk I wouldnt trust him with a car, he doesnt speak very well, and i doubt he adresses his true daily needs
Sadly, autism, or at least what we now lump together and call “autism,” can get MUCH more severe than CWC. It’s severity varies hugely.
I think it might have been because he was diagnosed in the 80s. They probably didn't have the greatest understanding of autism then. I agree that he is not 'high-functioning' at all, and any semblance of independence was snuffed out by his parents.
GamerFromMars be titling his Chris Chan doc like it's the rise and fall of the Roman Empire.
And I'm all for it.
I Wonder who was called gay
Truly a saga for the ages
Chris chan Rabbit hole ends in 2021. After that its just wait for his eventual trial and I think all we can do is wait for his punishment
@@ArcDeity probably Caesar
They're both equally as entertaining
I feel bad for Null(however I spell it) he went from the villain to the repentant side hero after Chris’s house caught fire. He realized that what he was doing to Chris was really damaging and he tried to repair the damage he’d done and help Chris and keep him out of trouble. He was a better parent than Barb ever was.
Null was a troll, not a monster.
Sadly, he couldn't save Chris from himself.
It's sad that this man, the only one that seemed to actually care for this person, who did more than both his parents ever did for him/her, Null's efforts just thrown away.
Null really was the unsung hero. He cared about Christine. They never stood much of a chance without his help
I was thinking the same thing, just didn't wanna say it out loud lol.
Null really was a great friend to Chris. Sadly he ducked that up.
The angry Sonichu medallion is the sole piece of G Rated humor in this entire dark saga.
It'd make one hell of a collector's piece
I swear didn’t one of the trolls make him shove it up his ass on a Skype call?
You know, you gotta feel bad for Chris. He's literally stuck in a world that he'll never get to understand because he is so disillusioned and detached from reality that he'll never get to feel genuine joy in anything. His parents, trolls, and so-called friends have stripped him of every bit of pride and self respect that he'll probably never get to recover and the world hates him for it because we're *forced* to.
Edit: I aint excusing the disgusting things he's done, and he deserved what he had coming to him, but I put the blame on why he's so fundamentally messed up in the head on the people who fundamentally screwed him up.
@Boa-Noah all fair points, and I dont have sympathy for the things he did, but I believe if he was brought up right in life by his parents by attending to his special needs appropriately, and if people didn't target him specifically just because it was easy and he didn't know better, he probably could have turned out significantly better as a person. I put the blame for who he is today on the people he was surrounded by. The guy has never won in his life because people were out to see him lose or didn't care enough to help him win. And when one single person said "He doesn't deserve that" it was way too late.
@@leifweigel4166 I have to agree, the things he’s done are disgusting especially the incest but he was setup to fail by everyone. He never had a chance and it’s sad to know had he been better cared for and actually supported and shown kindness and compassion he could’ve turned out okay
No
Hell no. He abused his own mom
@@barrymckokiner3758 *she 💅
I love how Chris established "Jenkins Jinkies" as being 13 years old...But then when the time comes to make the "Why I hate Chris Chan" video, he's clearly a grown man who sounds almost exactly like Chris. Right down to the constipated grunt at the end.
He's like a cartoon character.
Like that bit where a character pretends to be a lamp by just putting on a lampshade
What?! Look at Jenkins Junkies and Chris! Look at their faces! Completely different! Totally!
Also the fact that the person who finally brought her down was named “Janke”
@@gaiusoctavius6107 truee i thought of that too
@@gaiusoctavius6107 brought him down*
Isabella Jenky is probably one of the most evil human beings that may have touched this saga. Not for the actions she participated, but for the pure and sheer will to take part on it. A sadistic individual at her core.
Sometimes, i swear god. Humanity finds ways to push me into being misantropic more and more each day.
Probably? She is
Would be a shame if she was treated the same way she treated those animals she tortured.
Well, that and all the other sick "trolls" that made him even violate himself.. There's trolling and there's people just actually being evil assholes with even more hatred for others and humanity than the people they target! Almost like social justice warriors without the actual justice part? And being anti-social.. And certainly not a warrior. So, anti-social hatred filled cowards, i guess?
The fact that she was already infamous before she found Christine is already a bad sign. She is even worse than that blue spike kid from before
What did she do?
He sounded somewhat normal for a second until he started babbling on about fictional characters being on his roof.
Even in his delusions everyone else works but him “great work you’re doing up there guys!”
It seems like a delusion magically appears, anytime he's asked an uncomfortable question. Such oddly convenient timing.
@@futonrevolution7671 That would be called dissociating. Some people do it on purpose. It's a coping mechanism. Not that you are wrong about the timing, I just read your comment as possibly condescending, sorry if I got it wrong.
@@averysspookshowspectacular6205 No worries. As an autist who's quite a bit less functional, than Chris, I can say that it's incredibly easy for us to fake this sort of crap. I've personally tested this on world-class neurologists, like Orrin Devinsky, after specifically telling them what I was about to do, and they couldn't tell the difference. Chris may very well believe that they're the Goddess of a console system that doesn't exist... for days at a time, but not 24/7. The only thing that they're 24/7 on is their horniness.
Neurotypicals *consistently* believe that everything we say is 100% sincere, because of Hollywood Autism, where we all have superpowers and see mathematical equations in the air, while simultaneously thinking that autism = stupid and our every whim must be humored.
Chris is *incredibly* selective in his delusions. Idea Guys and Isabella tell him he's got superpowers and that Jesus banged the Virgin Mary, he's completely down for that and truthfully answers anything they think to ask. Null tells him how he can put in the barest amount of effort and build up real friendships with real people, and Chris constantly lies to him and treats him like an idiot, thinking that Null would somehow not notice Chris stealing money from his mother's account.
Chris went to college. They were able to handle mortgage payments. They can feed and clothe themselves. They can link multiple full complete sentences to describe a complete concept, while being distracted by road noise and the excitement/stress of a road trip, in a way that a neurotypical can easily understand. Unless Chris's neurologist shows up, being able to diagnose him with stupid isn't in anyone's wheelhouse. If you watch the extra footage of Chris playing Tetris, they speak normally and sneak in any insult they can, then immediately change the pitch of their voice and not look directly at anyone, when someone seems to notice.
@@averysspookshowspectacular6205 Children have a habit of retreating into fantasy worlds to cope with stressful and uncomfortable situations. Not going to lie, I did that myself when I was young.
However, as they grow up, they learn how to deal with such situations in a mature and responsible manner.
Chris never learned how to do that because he lacks the emotional maturity to do so. As a result, he just kept retreating deeper and deeper into his fantasies to the point where he cannot escape, and does not want to.
Crazy how his life with infamy began with him being locked in a closet, to his demise being locked in a prison cell.
It's poetic, in a weird way
Foreshadow takes a lot of time to build
It went full circle. Irony can be hilarious and an absolute bastard.
the last two illustrations showing that were fucking brilliant and horrifying
I dispute that the incident where his babysitter stuck him in a dark room actually happened. He had a habit of rewriting history. I think his parents also had a habit of doing this. Chris had verbal problems due to being autistic. I can totally imagine his parents blaming this on a fabricated incident. They had limited misunderstanding of his condition and seemed ashamed of it, so it's easy to imagine them coming up with a story and Chris internalising it.
I feel so bad for Jessi Slaughter.. she was telling the truth about Dahvie Vanity the entire time, and while she was being relentlessly trolled for coming out about it, he was abusing other girls. She was a compulsive liar but she was also a victim, and those trolls were absolutely tormenting her.
Ssssh, she'll pop a cap in ya.
They go by Damien now and they/them pronouns!
They're also in a wheelchair now I believe
It's very sad what they went through
@@DeltaPi314 And make his brain slushy?
I don't feel bad for any of these fucks.
The internet is human nature amplified.
You all know or don't know what you're getting into. Regardless, you assume all risk knowing or not, when you log on.
Get stronger and smarter or get absolutely chewed up.
Was Dahvie Vanity ever punished for his assault? I found an article from a few years ago that several people including Damien, aka Jessi Slaughter, spoke out to report Dahvie.
I've known about Chris Chan for nearly a decade now. I heard of all his sperging, the death of his dad, his toxic relationship with his mom, horrible living situation, and all the trolling he's been through. I knew the endgame for Chris was not going to be good, but I had no idea it was going to be that unbelievably dark... I'd really like to imagine the alternate reality where Chris was raised properly because I'd like to imagine how many of the world's problems that could have been avoided if parents just did their jobs the right way.
speaking on that alternative chris reality, what if the sonichu comics were similar to tails gets trolled? tails gets trolled is a work of sonic internet history, that while did have a sloppy artstyle and plot, became insane and genuinely interesting.
imagine what the sonichu comics could’ve been like if chris had been raised right, and she hadn’t ever been manipulated by trolls. the sonicchu comics, and chris chan herself, probably wouldn’t have been known so infamoudly.
infamously.*
The world will really never know as this is the reality we are living in and just make the best of the it.
@@ErebusXanti Hey, we we have imaginations for a reason.
@@StephonZeno not saying its bad to have one but to be in it all the time is kinda worrying.
In all honesty, Chris Chan has always been an enigma to me. His sheer mental state and actions make me ponder about his well being and existence pretty regularly to be honest. There’s that slight bit of humanity when it comes to Chris where you feel bad for him, but then you remember how bad of a person he really is due to his parents and himself. Seeing Chris Chan’s life is like seeing a car crash and catch on fire that is full of murderers. You feel bad at first, but then… nothing. You just have to stare and watch at the total dumpster fire that is Chris Chan’s life.
exactly! well put!
Finally someone pronounced his sex correctly! Chris even admitted he changed his gender to complete love quest easily. Did I say he despises men and can't even stand looking at his own pickle-
Err, I mean duck?
@@zorakthelonemantisoftheapo5680 y’all got issues damn
Although I never want there to be one, if there is a Chris Chan movie I hope it’s titled “Dumpster Fire”
At the end of the day, I don't think this is Chris's fault. He's always been out of touch with reality and his parents are to blame for that. Things would be alot different if he had gotten proper treatment when he needed it the most.
His lack of association with reality is probably his biggest downfall. Thus he is easily manipulated and gullible by the many people who want to take advantage of that.
Even with the claims of incest have to be questioned despite being apparently true. It's hard not to put it past him. But it seems that people may very well have manipulated him into doing that, or saying that he did as he would have no clue as to what the implications would have been.
At the end of the day, I see this as torment of a mentally ill individual and I'm pretty sure things would be better if the internet had not become a part of his life.
He's the most documented individual in human history, it's unreal.
If you think about it that means statistically in like 10000 years he will be all the future knows of us.
Another hilarious notion is that for the first time in his life, Chris ACTUALLY had a girl who was interested in him and wanted to be with him…. and he ignored her and shrugged her off to be with his mom and keep talking to Janke, the worst troll of them all. Chris was always his own worst enemy, not Clyde, Michael Snyder or MLW
TBH I feel bad for Fiona. I know how it feels to get dumped.
@@elsakristina2689 Fiona dodged a massive bullet. She sounds super sweet, but Chris was already too far gone beyond the bend.
@@Proseless True that. I hope she’s doing alright. She’s so lucky she never met Chris in person. I’d be terrified if I were alone with Chris.
@@Proseless Fiona was a piece of garbage: not only she had a boyfriend while sending Chris pics of her boobas (allegedly), she also fetishized the old Chris as she (also allegedly) had a fetish for gross men.
She was not True and Honest, and was basically a Honey Pot.
Edit: she had no problems with cheating on her BF , with Chris from all people, so sweet my ass. She just chased after a weird fetish. There are no good guys in this story, stop looking for them.
@@Proseless She didnt dodge a bullet because shes now in a mental hospital because of all the trolls.
Telling people man... Trolls fucked everything up and worse, despite chris being a problem
Man... this was a ride.... i feel so sad and sick when Barb is on screen man.... damn...
I dunno, I kinda don't. She helped created this monster. She also likes to play up illnesses for the camera to get more sympathy for more donations. She's a psycho narcissist, imo. She fought so hard to refuse help for Chris as a child which ultimately made him this way, on top of her never helping curb his behaviors as a mother. She taught him to blame everything he does wrong on Autism. I feel bad for Chris and Bob though. Chris is mentally ill. It is mentally impossible for him to think like we do. He does know what's wrong and right tho, but the trolls help egg him on in wrong directions too.
she looked like her soul has escaped. or rather, she's still somewhere but its not inside her body. those eyes look like she seen true form of shock and terror.
777th like
This guy's everywhere I swear.
Permanent enemy doesn't hit as hard since you've blown up... but yknow them smash bros bars are appreciated. Wombooo comboooo
That ain't Falco.
Dead bodies don’t look as creepy
This whole story is a grim reminder that attitudes toward mental illness, especially those held by law enforcement and the legal system, are still way off from where they should be. Nobody received justice here, not Chris, not his mom, and definitely not the trolls.
Yeah, it's some sad shit. _Some people just want to watch the world burn._
But I'm not worried about the trolls getting justice. They'll be living with themselves until the day they die and maybe they get some sense of control and meaning out of causing real harm to people, they will never know how it feels to be loved for who they are - it will always be fake and with hidden agendas.
And to be fair, it's what they know, so it's an easy game for them and they'll probably never know what they're missing or care to view it as anything but a weakness and vulnerability to exploit, giving them a feeling of strength when people around them show integrity and sincerity, but as a sincere person with integrity whose life is only possible because people around me value me for who I am, I can tell you that everyone needs someone to trust and rely on every now and again and it's pretty fucking pathetic if the only way to get that is to have some dirt on everyone around to to force them into fake loyalty. And again, it gives them a sense of power to have that control over people, but they'll never be happily surprised by a spontaneous idea of someone who loves them - all ideas have to come from that one warped mind. Imagine how small your world would be if all that happens in your life is you controlling everything and everyone around you and everything out of your control is a threat to you. You know, honest people, honest criticisms, actual information. That's exactly what they need to keep out of their lives to maintain control and control is the only thing they have until they don't, or are inevitably stabbed in the back, or when someone has some dirt on them to change them from the abuser into the victim and no amount of honesty or sincerity will help them get out of that. They'll be stuck with their self imposed illusions forever. A prison for their mind.
Chris at least can remember that when she fucked up, she didn't know better and when she did, she learned. She's convicted and I would have loved to have her live in the country where I live. Her sentence would've been changed to mental help. Punishing her for not knowing better and having no one to look after her and having tons of people taking advantage of her like a clown doesn't help anyone; it teaches nothing. All she needs is a handful of people to care enough to help her get on her feet and let her see herself for who she is. She'll see she is a good person, mistakes and all, deserving of a good life. In her cell she has more freedom than those trolls will ever have.
One of the things literally every video seems to not mention at all is the absolutely horrific child abuse that Chris's mom supposedly perpetrated, according to Chris's older half brother. If she did even a little of what he claims, there is no torture too extreme for her. And the detail he gives, I can't see all that being lies... She is truly a monster
it’s truly a situation of every one sucks everyone loses
Well, I disagree in some regards. What then makes of people like Chris-chan? Clearly, they cannot fit in society. We can't force them to get therapy either without breaking a few ethical issues, and ofc you agree that throwing them in an asylum is worse. What then? Better government programs? After that, send them out to the greater public? I believe that there are people who are too unique to conform and live within society, for better or for worse.
For that reason, I do think Chris got justice in some way. Chris was removed, and placed somewhere where they can't harm themselves, and nobody can harm them. After all, what else can be done? There is no changing the trolls who got to him, and there is no changing Chris either.
@@FUNKY_BUTTLOVINEhh, i guess someones never heard of geosamuel
I was there at Too Many Games 2018. I was able to meet Chris Chan, get a signature, and was given a small hawkeye figure (he was giving out these tiny avengers character things). It was a very strange moment for me. My friend likely still has the Sonic games he got signed by Chris Chan. I was not in the conference room picture but I was there at that event. Chris got to ask a question and his attempt at forming it in person was itself a unique thing to watch. I later saw Chris Chan in his curled up state but did not see him be removed from the event.
Whoa, well you've been a part of this saga, big time!
I'm picturing a jury watching 100's of hours of Chris Chan videos... man what a life, best jury duty ever
Do you think they'll call janke to testify if that clusterfuck goes to trial?
Now I'm picturing the court case being a back-and-forth of different videos involving Chris.
The defense pulls out footage showing stuff that the trolls did to him, while the prosecution responds by showing him wishing death on people over minor slights and almost literally any interaction he has with women.
@puppylover The only legal benefit to Chris videos would be if you were to argue criminal insanity, which I don’t understand how it isn’t?
I always wondered why people even care about Chris and his life.
Then I realised I'm here, watching all of the videos about him I can find.
It's just watching a trainwreck; ya can't look away
He's a cautionary tale for the 21st century.
It's like a very fked up Truman Show
If Web 1.0 and 2.0 can do this to a person, imagine what Facebook and TikTok is creating as we speak. The future is bleak.
us: “literally no one cares about this, stop giving them a platform”
also us: watches a three hour video about their life
The fact that Chris’ biggest screw up came around his better days on the internet is a testament to his life. This person has been pushing a boulder up a hill and having it tumble back down their entire life.
No one trolls Chris better than Chris. If anything trolls messing with him actually kept him contained for years because the instant they left him alone he self destructs. It wasn't mentioned in the video but Chris wasn't the only person who hit Michael. They switched seats and Barb hit him again. Chris got away with stuff like that purely because even the law could tell his life is horrible and hes incapable of escaping it. In Chris' own words "I'm in a hell of my own!"
@@legojay14 Chris Chan became his own worst enemy
@@Brandonhayhew He has been is OWN worst enemy... If there was a DEVIL, than well clearly he would blush on how truly horrible Chris Chan is to himself.
Every time people tried to be kind to Chris, all it did was make Chris incredibly smug and more demanding. He sees other people only as servants and concubines.
@@stormwulf117 He just needs to be GONE. Put into a mental asylum. KEEP HIM FOREVER WITH THE WORST JAIL CELL.
it's honestly sad how their parents didn't really try to help them with their issues from their autism...they just let Chris do what they wanted, and the landslide just began...
his*
Both of Chris's parents are absolute monsters. They created a monster. It's no surprise how Chris turned out. 20 years earlier and Chris would have been the creepy guy working at a supermarket that parents kept kids away from. The internet gave Chris an outlet they he shouldn't have had.
@@wolfypilotMa'am, there is always someone like you.
Why do you give a damn about how someone like Chris Chan identifies, girly?
@@Solanin0803Chris only identified as a woman because he thought it'd get him women. And frankly, that's downright insulting to anyone with genuine gender dysphoria.
@@americanphoenix249 Oh please there are far worse parents than these two the worst these two have ever done was not being there for Chris and letting pop media raise him while you have parents out there who have molested their own kids and did other horrific stuff to their kids, so calling them monsters is incorrect when the real monsters are the types I listed above.
Just when things where finally looking up they took their worst turn to date. This is a sad, sad story, but I'm glad someone was here to tell it with respect. Thank you for this documentary!
I agree! I've been consuming a good amount of Chris-Chan related content because I have no life, but this is by far the best I've found in giving a more true and unbiased account. I think it's helped to show some people that Chris wasn't JUST someone who did...what they did to their mother, but was also a victim of things as well.
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It breaks my heart how he falls for everything hook line and sinker. There's a difference between trolling and taking advantage of someone.
(Yes, I know he r*ped his mom and it's fucking disgusting.)
Right. Good trolls don't punch down, they go after shitty people. Chris isn't really that great of a person at all, but he's just a weird dude with disabilities that should have been left the hell alone. Liquid and Alec were great trolls because they were almost harmless parodies. But Blue Spike, Isabella, and Clyde Cash were just fucking awful.
There isn't, trolling means asserting dominance as far as I've seen.
@@CRITICALHITRU If you need to assert dominance over a person with obvious mental problems then you have issues.
Ummm... your heart might break less for Chris further into this story. I mean, sure, hate the trolls, I do, all of them, but save your heart for better things.
Most all of it is because of being catfished, if Chris accepted he was going to die alone, he would been fine.
As someone who grew up with autism, Chris's story really triggers me in a special kind of way. I feel as if this could've happened to me because I was easily manipulated into stupid things and I obsessed with internet culture rather than the real world. I am so glad my parents made sure that I got involved in outdoor activities and limited my screen time; I'm especially glad that my parents did enroll me in special-ed even though I hated that decision at the time. Though Chris isn't a great person, I can't help but feel sorry for the abuse he endured.
He was horibly tortured. Here I am watching this, and Geno Samuel's documentary, but I don't condone the awful things that Chris was baited into doing. Thank goodness for you, having the structure, and guidance you do. Chris was pretty clueless to continue documenting every aspect of his life on the Internet.
definitely. you can see how awful it was how they treated him, how his parents failed him, etc. but i’m glad we can also still say we hate the things he’s done and hold him responsible for those things.
Seeing Chris in the beginning of this video is... weird. He's having an actual conversation where he isn't angry or the villain.
It's like if everyone in his life actually gave him the time to go on his level and explain what he did is wrong I feel he could of been much better. But alas the trolls got to him first and fed his desires and then dropped him. Now he's become the monster he hated.
"To go on his level and explain what he did is wrong"
That's never, ever worked. Even well before the trolls and Chris's belief that he was god of Toontown, nobody was able to get through to him with that approach.
@@reloadpsi Isn't it amazing the amount of people that like to act as if Chris could have been saved? Why can't people understand the simple fact that Chris was fucked a long time ago because of his parents, as well as his obsession with posting his craziness on the internet. Trolls or no trolls, he was fucked either way. Many people already tried talking to him and tried to get him to see reason. As has already been said, it didn't work. On multiple occasions, it didn't work.
To the op: the world doesn't work that way for anyone! 👋
@@reloadpsi Unfortunately that's just how Asperger's Syndrome works, it's the story of every boy with it. As someone who had gone to a special school, people like Chris-Chan aren't rare, most simply aren't televised.
Chris was a monster before he ever got trolled. The trolls made it public for sure but he was no angel before they came along.
This should be a cautionary tale told to parents with autistic children, if you fail them and shelter them long enough eventually they will turn out at best psychologically damaged and at worst a monster
It's a cautionary tell of " Why to wear a condom ", "Raise your children right", and "Diagnosis as early as possible". Barbara is somewhat the culprit all along in the situation as the step brother mentions " She was awful ".
As neglected autistic person myself, who was severely bullied and still has problems communicating, this series feels like horror fuel
Chris chan is forever a cautionary tale
@@Brandonhayhew Also a reminder that NOT EVERYONE SHOULD BE ON THE INTERNET.
@@MaoRatto never be weak but never forget Chris Chan. Pay close attention to your kids and force to them to see what being kid would lead to be like Chris
What a horrible, revolting story about horrible people doing horrible stuff to another horrible person.
Sounds like life to me
Thing is Chris was and is clearly not of sound mind. Those “trolls” just abused his developmental shortcomings
Early on Chris was just a lonely guy with severe developmental disability, he later become more of a horrible person. Definitely wrong what they did and just made him even worse. The others were just evil people who got off on tormenting a mentally handicapped guy
Yeah but who is the lesser of evil? And who is the more foolish one? The fool or the fool who follows him?
A horrible person who may not have turned out so horrible if he had gotten the developmental help he needed as a child, much less if a gaggle of Internet neckbeards hadn't made it their life's mission to completely ruin his very perception of reality beyond repair.
I finally got through the whole documentary after a few days. The drawing of Chris Chan in jail transitioning into Chris Chan locked in the closet as a kid gave me the feels.
I'm the same age as Chris. A few months older, actually. My grandparents are the same age as Chris' father. I cannot imagine my grandparents, raising a child, at that age. They'd do exactly what Bob and Barb did. Allow TV and Video Games, to babysit/raise the child. That's the issue.
I'm ten years younger than Chris, and sure my upbringing probably contributed to me not having much of a chance, but I at least an capable of work and doing activities I enjoy. (Such as martial arts) I'm a daydreaming nerd who also enjoys video games, but Chris was a lost cause right from the beginning. I'm just glad I never turned out like my parents, who are also incompetent morons. It's one of the reasons why I've chosen not to have kids.
My mum and I have roughly the same age gap that Chris has with his mother (my mum is thirteen years younger than Barbara, I'm ten years younger than Chris) and, to add to the similarities, I also have autism (and other debilitating, fun, hereditary stuff).
But my mum is a good mother, always worried about me, disciplined me when I was being an idiot, pushed me to be independent and to be a functioning member of society, and she made it while being a single mother and without knowledge of autism (I was diagnosed in my late twenties).
I can't say I'm the most functional of humans (I know I'm not), and my multiple illnesses don't help, but I can confidently say that the problem doesn't lie with the age gap, but with the fact that Chris'parents should have never had kids.
There was an entire generation of people missing from that little family. Barb and Bob should've raised the person who birthed Chris. THAT parent might not have been so unbelievably out of touch, not leaving Chris ultimately entirely defenseless.
Null honestly had one of the best redemption arcs I've ever seen lmao
Right? Kind of a badass in the end.
@@Princelle I know it's just a shame he never learned how to listen
Came down to look for this comment before I made it myself
I’m gonna guess this covers Bob’s passing, Chris and his mother running over the game store manager and Chris setting his house on fire.
Tbh it’s probably and accurate guess.🤷♂️
And probably how chris' parents failed to be as parents and how they refused to give chris special ed and all.
I'm not sure if that will happen but it's possible since TGFM talked about that on the SomeOrdinaryPodcast.
@@warlis4767 Imagine how this would've turned out if they just got him the special ed
@@kitkatkass3079 None of this would happen and I mean none none NONE.
We won't know the existence of chris chan, we wouldn't know about Geno Samuel, the documentaries wouldn't exist, everything and everyone involved with chris in any way wouldn't be there.
@@warlis4767
In a world I never heard of Chris, that would be ideal. Considering I fell down the rabbit hole of Christory, I realized how much time I wasted gaining insight of this massive prick. His lore is like a bad drug you can’t get sober from.
Of all the vids I have seen about Chris-Chan, this series by far the best. That last shot of Chris's drawing of being locked in a closet as a child, superimposed with the drawing of being imprisoned as an adult hit hard. Despite my disgust, I can't help but feel pity for Chris. You've done a great job.
@@SirBlackReeds But that's far too long for the normies.
@@littletimmythefifth29 Normies? Anyone who wants to spend any time with this horrific story isn't a fuckin' normie.
@@littletimmythefifth29 🤨
These drawings were not by Chris. This is the only thing I found irritating about the otherwise great documentary: It was not made clear which drawings were by Chris and which were by 'Top Drawer Art' (see credits). Whenever the linework is clear and the backgrounds have repeating patterns (because they're done digitally, something Chris-Chan would apparently never do), it's not by Chris.
It's easy to tell whose art was whose.the new stuff looks better then anything Chris ever drew
These aren't trolls. These are pyscopathic bullies.
Yeah it's actually scary how fucked up they are
liquid was actually pretty nice some of them are fucking psychotic
i know i'm like 11 months late but its actually so fucked up how they took advantage of a very unwell and disabled person
They were actually more depraved then Chris and I mean way more
Well most did it because Chris was a maladjusted dumbass who didn't keep to any societal norms and creeped on women
I still always feel so bad for Fiona whenever I hear about her. Imagine being attracted to *that* in the first place. Then he rejects you in favor of a hamster boiler.
@@Padlock_Steve fucking what
Chick must have insanely low standards if she wanted to unironiclay date Chris
@@animefan2454 allegedly she had a fetish for gross men
Fiona was innocent, justice for that poor wee darlin'
What’s up, Fritz? You still acting like a poet & a writer? Out there diggin’ all the scenes?
Crazy how his life became full circle. He started his childhood locked in a room. Now he will spend the rest of his life in a room.
His life was slowly improving and was going to be the ultimate internet comeback story only to have it come crashing down completly. This is truly sad but not surprising. This happens to alot of autistic people but since they never get trolled or any fame like this. Chirs chan is truly unique
that's poetic, it all started with him locked in his room by a babysitter, now years later, locked in a padded room, waiting for trial, believing he's Jesus.
Your foolish, to think this would be the world's best internet comeback story, he was doomed from the very start with his shit parents and his disability made him a target for bullies. Unfortunately humans are cruel stupid animals, and many would love to do nothing more than relish in the sadistic glee of tormenting a poor autistic child for the rest of his life.
What's crazy is that Chris had it all going into summer of 2021, and him, and only him, was the reason that he's where he is now. I'm glad there was the quip that "Well, I was horny.." when asked why he had sex with his mother. It's the fact of this whole episode, the horrible things Chris has done have been completely devoid of trolls, and the now famous quote that Chris is his own biggest troll.
@@vulpsturm outside the idea guys and that Jeff and the fake girlfriend Jessica Quinn or Katerine.
a lot of Chris going into the tomgirl/Trans lesbians stuff to much of 2021 was not all trolling or catfishing
@@vulpsturm also really shot himself in the foot there, admitting he was fully aware of what he was doing is going to make an insanity defense or argument that he was manipulated into it a lot harder
My god, I'd never fully grasped how disconnected from reality Chris was until about 40 seconds into the video.
Every time I think I have it bad because of my autism, I think back to this.
lol
Lmao same
Honestly chris chans entire story is practically the poster boy for "and I though my life was sad"
@micjimster4845 I don't think I have autism, but same. I'm just a socially awkward nerd. But I'm so glad I'm nothing like Chris.
I came here was because of Neptunia. Some Neptunia fans hated that guy and i had to go through an extensive research on this until i came across this. While im -mildly autistic- that had access to the internet earlier in my childhood, i didnt know him neither until 2022, because im just too very naive.
This story has just evil people written all over it. Like Jesus Christ, I get the internet is the internet, but there are some legitimate demons out there. Nor defending Christine's actions but with no grip of reality, it takes an evil person to do trolling like this. It's not even trolling, it's straight harassment to a mentally ill person.
While I agree with you, Chris brought it on himself, or rather, his parents by allowing him unrestricted access to the internet (especially the far wilder early 2000s internet)
@@glitchedsushi This is just not right...
"Christine" just call this man by his real name. His whole trans thing is a bloody joke.
@@pretzel6629 Chris is just a mentally broken and a crazy person
Agreed. One example that made me go WTF: trolls discussing digging up his dead dog.
There is something so poethically ironic in Null, the de facto leader of the trolling community, taking the reins of Chris' life for him, giving him a job/house/responsabilities, only for Chris to throw all of that out the window
Every since Chris was born he’s been at a downfall
Sad but true
I had the exact same thought but worded it differently XD
No lie
It was when his dad died
@YB Never broke again
L+ no bitches+yb better+ Soulja did it first+ ratio+fatherless
In my personal opinion, if Chris Chan was put in the foster system, I believe he world have a much better life
Who knows? Maybe he could’ve grown up to be a programmer for Sonic Team, because of his technological intelligence at such a young age
No. Foster is awful. He would have been badly damaged and had an crappy life. The only meaningful difference would be that he wouldn't have had access to funds to buy lots of stuff and wouldn't have great access to the internet. Well, at least then he wouldn't be bullies by internet trolls, only real bullies.
The world is hard, especially those like Chris Chan. He needed better parents or a better family.
@@rabidfirefox8914 Theres a number of people who had gone into foster care and came out fine.
Is it fucking awful? yes. But honestly, his chances would only improve if he went to foster care.
All I’m saying is, he could’ve logged off anytime
If he was put in foster care he probably would have murdered them and blamed sonicchu for the crime. He's crazy and has always been that way. Autism doesn't make people act like he did.
I’m still pissed that Isabella is free and hasn’t been charged by pushing Christine into doing the “deed” with barb.
According to a Turkey Tom video, her parents have a lot of money and power, and she’s done other bad things and got away with it. She’s not going anywhere anytime soon unfortunately
@@Vanessa-bv2rj Typical Rich Brat
Glowie parents
@@Vanessa-bv2rj well, we could always find her and “do something” about that.
@Pumpkin if she’s hurting animals then she’s probably going to wind up a serial killer. All serial killers torture pets first.
I think the biggest thing to take away from this situation is how horrible people will treat others with mental disabilities. Several pages and forums were created to bully, incite, and judge Chris Chan which further exasperated the problems this guy was dealing with. Unfortunately Chris Chan didn't have the support to make the best choices in life and we all got a front row ticket to his down fall. Take care of each other on this planet we are stuck here whether we like it or not.
The world isn't a nice place. No one owes anyone anything and that includes being nice. Chris brought on a lot of these problems himself.
@@ethanmccormack9561 People like are what makes you the world a terrible place. Chris from the start was very mentally unstable and had no clue of how to deal with the trolls. They could of just stop, shave their neckbeards, and contribute even the bare minimum to humanity, but they didn't. Chris is the fucking victim here.
@@ethanmccormack9561 Yes, he really did. It's one thing to feel sympathy for him, it's quite another to act as if the trolls really made him worse. Most of them didn't. And Chris chose on his own to continue going on the internet and making those stupid videos. He is solely at fault for his actions. Even fucking his mom. He is at fault. Though Isabella should be in prison herself.
@@ethanmccormack9561 True, but no sane person would ever see them as accountable. Ironically, the first two statements in your comments just feel like a convenient excuse to not change or better yourself.
@@ethanmccormack9561 that’s a lazy excuse that lets bad people get away with bad shit. There’s plenty of people doing hard work to make the world a better place. Chris did a lot of horrendous things and is responsible for those things. And these trolls are responsible for all of the filth that they committed against a vulnerable, mentally ill person. Hold them accountable for their actions. And grow up a little bit next time before you start talking about how horrible the world is. If you think it’s so bad, get up and fix it.
One of my absolute favorite parts of his Saga is where he goes undercover and tries to infiltrate the trolls and they let him in, knowing full well who he was, and then demanded he make a video talking shit about himself and he did it with a poor disguise lmao
Yo I just got to the part... 🤣
This all could’ve been avoided if Chris’s parents just supervised him…
That's what makes this saga so tragic. If Chris's parents did some actual parenting instead of letting pop culture media raise him while giving him the support he needed during his school days instead of being in denial of his special needs, he probably would have turned out okay.
@@autisticscreechling4950 now his parents are gone. Chris is all alone. Barb is now, a potato. That house is definitely gone forever for Chris
That would have cut into their drinking time. Both his parents are monsters. They had no business having kids and the fact that none of their kids want anything to do with them is proof of how awful they are.
Some people don't want autistic kids and check out.
@@americanphoenix249 Oh please there are far worse parents than these two the worst these two have ever done was not being there for Chris and letting pop media raise him while you have parents out there who have molested their own kids and did other horrific stuff to their kids, so calling them monsters is incorrect when the real monsters are the types I listed above.
I like how Chris goes from
"It's just me and my mom"
to
"Oh, and Magichan, Simonla, and everyone else. Alakazans! Y'all on the roof, keep doing a good work."
His coping mechanism
"Wow. It really is just me and my Mom, isn't it? Maybe I should turn my life aroun-LOOK BEHIND YOU, IT'S MAGI-CHAN."
I swear, I thought "wow, maybe chris isn't that nuts"
then he mentioned his fictional characters and I remembered by I had no faith in this man
I went to the same school as Chris Chan, though I'm a bit younger. My first job was a fast food restaurant, and I used to see Chris Chan monthly. I also used to see him at the Sheetz gas station and Food Lion near my house at the time. It was surreal because I was standing next to this person I knew virtually everything about, but nobody else knew, and I never said anything because I didn't want to get involved.
Thank you for putting this together. This was very interesting, and I hope Chris Chan is finally getting the help they were denied for so long.
Man this is a weird question but like how tall was he because I've been wondering about it for so long lmao
@@elansleazebaganno he was average height. I'd say like 5 foot 9 or 10
@@TonytheTiger313 Thank you so much man. I was hoping he'd be 6'8" or my height(6'3") because I remember someone talking about Chris being tall as hell, and I think that'd be really funny if it were true, but sadly he's just average lmao
@@TonytheTiger313 how well did you get to know him?
@@jackhamilton9604 I didn't. The only things I knew about him were from seeing him online. Aside from serving up orders, I never spoke to him.
Those comments from Chris at the end about “healing his mother several times”, right after the previously revealed context, sent chills down my spine. The reveal you’re standing right next to a monster who is alluding to his crimes with a smile is downright frightening.
And the laughter after that guy asked if she could heal his ache....like it was funny to Chris that he didn't get it. Surreal.
I guess that Barbussy hurt a lot... He needed to heal Barb every three days.
@@DeltaPi314 HUH ???
Chris Chan isn't Frankenstein. He's Frankensteins monster
@@DeltaPi314 never say barbussy again please
"Downfall" implies there was once a rise.
There wasnt. That kid was screwed the moment he was born.
i think it started with the watch and win
no
Chris Chan Sagas in a nutshell
- The Phantom Girlfriend
- Attack of the Trolls
- Revenge of the Chris
- A new Cope
- Chris Strikes Back
- Return of the Trolls
Now if we can only convert the Chis-Chan Saga as Chapters of JoJo.
This is sounds like a manga volumes lmao
this truly is one of the most depressing tales in the entirety of internet history
Chris was simply a man of delusion, he could've been something, he could've been as Bob described: A Hero Of Autism
But instead, he was corrupted, he was cruelly taken and embraced by the worst of the internet and because of that, it led him down a path of misery and tragedy, instead of becoming a hero he became... a villain, an example of some of the worst aspects of autism even, he became a reminder to all of humanity of what not to do when it comes to people like this, his saga ended, his life has ended and now all we can do is hope for one thing...
That the internet will never make... another man like Christian Weston Chandler
But time will only tell and history could always repeat itself with another host, but until then...
Godspeed everyone
Dude the internet makes people like this every tuesday just for shits and giggles. Lots of people end up mentally unstable, depressed or even kill themselves because of trolls. The internet has both the best and worst humanity has to offer.
@@super_burstmode3652 yikes...
@@super_burstmode3652 that's the dumbest thing I ever heard: just use the block function.
Edit: extreme case, if social media isn't for you, why use it? Nobody holds you at gun point and forces you to use it.
And you can still use it with a minimum of opsec.
Like what do you want to do? Police the internet so everybody is nice and no conflicts occur? Sure, that won't be abused in 3 minutes to root out " dangerous thought criminals"
Chris was bad before he ever got the internet.
@@joemartin5669 fair
I still find it amazing how many times Chris found himself on mainstream media as well. He was on TV several times. Then you add the whole internet phenomenon and it just blows your mind.
From sonic in his childhood to now in 2022
That part where Chris “Heals” GamerFromMars was priceless. His face encapsulates everything I have experienced regarding Chris Chan
You know, i'm baffled that after the fire incident he didn't decide to turn his life around for good. The second he started using support money to buy legos was the second one realizes he's truly gone and has no one to blame but himself.
Chris chan story is a dreadful one and may every child that is on the spectrum grow into fine adults of sound mind and genuine love from family and friends because otherwise these things happen.
"Truly gone"? He was never "there" to begin with.
@@vulpsturm True, but he could have clawed his way up from that event like a real turning point. But instead he like quadrupled down on fucking his life.
@@Winasaurus What a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions.
What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person.
These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'.
As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.".
As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?".
I heavily encourage you to watch these 5 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html.
Being Autistic myself, I consider Chris-Chan to be an absolute tragedy. He could have had a great life, full of creativity and control. But instead, his parents raised him to be without any sort of self control. He lacked the ability to cope with the real, and the fantastic. He lived in a delusional world. Thankfully through my learnings and my own sense of self control, I was able to achieve a better life. I have what Chris-Chan never had: common sense. And watching Chris-Chan's downfall has made me glad I don't have to live through the traumas he endured. At least I'm not a member of 4-Chan, nor look at it at all. It's not of my interest.
@@craigdavidson5613 Yeah, what a lot of people fail to understand is that due to narcissistic personality disorder, and whatever mental health condition Chris has that has somehow never been diagnosed(possibly schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or one of the Cluster B personality disorders), Chris understands & perceives things very differently from people who are normal or people who are just autistic and are, unlike Chris, actually on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum(like me), and is incapable of seeing that they have certain problems and have delusions.
What to someone like me or a non-autistic person would be disgusting, indecent, or inappropriate, is not seen that way by Chris. For example, that drawing Chris made of them fingering their former friend Megan, and uploaded to the internet to prove to trolls that they aren't gay. Chris has a warped sense of right & wrong and is incapable of understanding that certain things are not okay to do. Plus, Chris truly has the mental capacity of a 7-year-old child, combined with the hormones & sexdrive of an adult. So, Chris can't be held to the same standards as a functional person.
These issues combined with Chris not getting the special needs education they needed as a child, because of Chris's parents being idiots, and all of the trolling towards them have resulted in the person we see today. The only hope for Chris is them having consistent psychiatric treatment forced upon them. It's also worth noting that Chris has prosopagnosia(AKA face blindness)(which also was somehow never diagnosed), which means that their ability to recognize faces, including their own face, is impaired, and that Chris, at some point, developed Split Personality Disorder(AKA Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID for short)), as made evident by the 'year-long bodyswap between Chris and Sonichu'.
As the RUclips user K 767 said, "I think the guy just doesn't have sufficient cognitive resources to deal with his emotions and responsibilities, so, it's unreasonable to judge him as if he was just a normal guy who happened to be lazy and narcissistic. The Asperchu Saga was hilarious, but don't kid yourself. Alec was just a troll pushing the right buttons to confuse a mentally challenged man.". As the RUclips user ARC1300 said, "I think it's just too difficult for us to compartmentalize his issues and his shortcomings to "He refused to get help. Boo-hoo! It's his fault.". Mental health is a very complicated issue for us to just simplify it like that. I get it. We're all human and we want an easy answer to everything, but that just isn't the way life works. Don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating any of the shit he has done. I wouldn't even dream of it. But, it just seems lazy, arrogant, and callous to just say something like that and leave it at that.". As the RUclips user Kay said, "What is also upsetting is when it is said that Chris has failed to grow up & become a normal person. Being on the spectrum myself, this is beyond frustrating. He can't be a normal person. This isn't a matter of him being childish and not growing up. He has autism; a developmental disorder. It's not like he's going to wake up one day and say "I think I'm going to stop being like this.". It's just unbelievable that adults are mocking a man that is literally mentally disabled, as if he is choosing to behave that way. Yes, with different & better support, he could be more productive and, maybe, make better choices. But, his brain will always work this way. The bullying, tormenting, and harassment have only made him worse.". As the RUclips user ICryAllDayAllNight said, "It's so frustrating to see people claim Chris brought this misery all on himself. Yes, Chris is a bad person, but it's because his brain is literally incapable of carrying out the functions needed for him to be a good person(empathy, self-awareness, critical introspection, and basic critical thought). He just doesn't have the biological brain structure there to see things from other people's perspective or to understand certain concepts. I see this whole Chris saga as being a bunch of people bullying a mentally disabled person. He needed professional help, not to be tormented for his entire adult life.".
As the character Arthur Fleck said in the movie "Joker", "The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." and "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?".
I heavily encourage you to watch these 5 videos! At the very least, you should watch the one titled "The Tragedy of Chris Chan: An Autistic Person's Perspective". ruclips.net/video/5H5bVBsDrxA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/V5YdVAluQsA/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/VAUHuU8aUYg/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/scYj-DoEV7I/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/0g63S2yXYl0/видео.html.
Seeing him sit there and talk about "healing," Barb, makes my skin crawl. Because for those not in the know, on the matter, "healing" in this context, is Chris committing SA against his mother.
As an autistic person it’s always terrified me how easily I could’ve ended up like Chris if I had as bad and inattentive parents as chris did. Not to say every autistic person would turn out like this without proper guidance but I feel like this is a cautionary tale of what can happen if you don’t take your child’s mental health needs seriously. It’s very important for parents of autistic children to make sure their child still understands basic societal rules as good as possible at an early age, his parents clearly didn’t do that.
I will always go back to the Idea Guys for the main reason of Chris’ last drop of mental stability. As funny as the other trolls have been, the others had set boundaries and knew better than to extort a mentally unstable person, BlueSpike being an exception. If it wasn’t for the Idea Guys, I truly believe that some of the things that occurred after them would not have happened. (That might just be retrospective wishful thinking)
Edit: We all knew that Chris’ mental state was bad as is. I meant that the Idea Guys pushed that past the limit it already was at
Yes the Idea Guys and that Isabel psycho
I get that, but Chris was already going off the deep end as far as that blur between fiction and reality goes. Idea Guys just made him come to an inevitable point faster.
@@Higfoot Unfortunately you are right :(
@@Higfoot Chris had a call with Alec back in the Asperchu Saga where he calls Alec naïve for not believing in a "real" cartoon world and references Who Framed Roger Rabbit as an example. So you're right, that blur has existed for a looonnnnggg time unfortunately.
@@workaccount8732 Ah yes. Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the landmark criminal case I wrote my legal thesis on.
It just occured to me that Chris can drink alcohol and operate motor vehicles. Absolutely wild.
He ran people down in his car.
I know. Wild indeed.
Chris has committed three crimes and three times in jail
We give him excuses because he’s autistic but if he’s only autistic that shouldn’t be an excuse for his behavior
Dude this series is so good and its interesting and upsetting, BUT I remeber in high school we had a boy named "snake boy" that would hiss at ppl and cure them in snake speech. Everyone (my self included) would try to get cursed or toss change and watch him run after it... I had totally forgotten about this and I feel like crap now. Especially after being so upset at the trolls in this story. Tilhis has been a introspective and humbling series man, thank you
I feel like this is a story everyone has at some point, there would always be that one ‘weird kid’ at school and even if you didn’t take part in some of the messing with them, you still end up feeling somewhat complicit in it just by letting it happen, seeing stuff like Cwc makes you realise how they just needed help and just a safe space
Similar story here, except ours was a wolf boy that would growl and bark at people, and howl during school events. We'd try and get some reaction out of them in high school. Man remembering that makes me feel like shit.
I dont understand people like this, during highschool, you're no longer a kid, you're a literal teen, young teen at the very least, capable of actually think twice about something. Even if teens didn't have as much as foresight as adults.
When I was in highschool I watch bunch if students bullying autistic students a lot, but I was too afraid to speak up against them, I could only watch.
@@jeanneann3545 I understand the anger, hell I feel angry at myself. Only thing I can say it yes I was a teen capable of thinking twice, however I (and many others) don't. Many of us "know" something is wrong but dont truly understand the full situation or impact.
An example you even said you saw a kid get bullied and couldn't do anything. BUT that's never true. You are ALWAYS capable of doing something. Go get a teacher, get other students to speak out, tell your parents, principal, befriend the kids, etc. Sadly tho when you are a kid you can't see things all the way through and usually blinded by hormones and other peer pressures.
I'm almost 30 now and it makes me happy seeing that's is finally not cool to smoke cigarettes or bully ppl. Lots more awareness about bullies and mental health. I hope it means we are moving in the right direction.
@@sebstenson9387 thing that makes it so strange is I was ruthlessly bullied and should of knew how crapy it was, but instead of letting it stop with me I'd be crappy to others or laugh along with what bullies were doing so they MAYBE leave me alone. School was such a weird time and place 😆 🤣.
"The combined cost of the Lego sets would be over $3,000.00." Wow! I'm surprised he only wanted two sets.
I find it funny that even after decades, his artistic skills never got better
You can't improve on perfection
To be fair, most comic strip cartoonists never improve their art skills either.
@The World Economic Forum Is The New World Order prove how art isn't subjective, because people like different styles of art and dislike others.
I agree and disagree. His style has always remained an awkward rough draft done in crayon but like he has technically gotten better when it comes to proportions and variety of poses. Plus like someone mentioned above, it's not the art for newspaper comics ever improve either and you could argue that Chris is far more interesting and talented than some boring ass boomer that draws a Garfield strip
And yet he can draw far better then I ever could.
that clip you picked from your time with chris for the end was chilling, talking about his delusions more in detail especially in regards to the "healing" of barbara. so much stuff you filmed was fascinating, that the shining-esque repetition of "the dimensional merge is happening now" paper on his wall comes to mind.
amazing series btw, i've been a follower of chris and fan of yours for a long time, i was so excited when this came out! it's great and what i've already been suggesting to friends that are curious about chris but find geno too overwhelming and the cwcki too confusing.
You summarized like 10 years of Chris lore in just an hour and a half. Wow!
Crazy thing is this is part 5.
@@darkmatter69420 part 4
Nice Username
He didn’t cover everything of significance.
Liquid Chris was the Anti-hero, Null was the true switch-Hero, Isabella was the penultimate villain, only topped by Bluespike.
in all seriousness great job on this doc, the amount of info to sort and go through is nighmarish, to say nothing of the content.
@YB Never broke again cringe
Geno Samuel
Bro, you haven't watched this part yet. I know the first few parts were great, but finish this one before commenting.
@@maxhydekyle2425 no
I know chris did a lot wrong but jesus these "trolls" mentally broken them. Digusting honestly.
Idea Guys should be jailed.
@@pangoprime8674 true
Chris couldve stopped being terminally online at any point.
@@sweet_sukeban4022 and the trolls could have stopped at any time too
so why blame the autistic man with an abusive family
Them? A group of people?
From searching for a boyfriend-free-girl to ending up as one himself, what a magical journey.
edit, I never wanted to imply that Mr.Chandler was a girl, since the idea of men becoming women is preposterous. Funny how some will laugh at all CC's delusions except that one.
THEY CALLED HIM BOYFRIEND FREE GIRL
Lol this is the only comment I’ve seen that’s actually funny on these vids. The rest just the same joke over and over or just some fucked up shit
@@kg7219 yes welcome to internet humour
Chris failed his love quest
Yeah but are you allowed to say that kind of thing these days?
It is genuinely haunting to hear Christine talk about "healing" their mother towards the end.
Chris you mean? Christine is the identity he created to prey on women. Ya know, like his mother.
@@OdaSwifteye Literally what is it with you people trying to police everybody's language? It's ironic how you act like radical trans activists. I'll call "Chris" Christine and use she/her pronouns because that is how she chooses to identify. If you dont want to fine, just don't tell me how to talk twerp.
@@averyrathbun3859 well you are helping play into his delusion then. So if someone identifies as a horse and becomes sick can they go to a vet? Of course not. He clearly has mental problems and people like you actually encourage the problems to get worse.
@@ethanmccormack9561 So what? It's my choice to talk the way I want. Stop trying to police language. I don't see it as a delusion in this situation so I'm going to respect the pronouns. Clearly you are not. Clearly we don't see eye to eye on things. We can have that discussion but straight up don't tell me how to talk. You've undoubtedly heard the leftist response to deadnaming and misgendering and thought "they're just trying to silence opposing opinions". I agree. But try to be consistent and stop acting like you got any right to tell me how to talk when shoes on the other foot
@@averyrathbun3859 Treating a guy that has openly been on record saying he only does it to attract a lesbian and still to this day believes that homosexuality needs a vaccine as some kind of trans icon worthy of respect. Whatever, sure, you have the freedom to expose yourself as being so hopelessly gullible that even CWC can get one on you 🤣