Charlamagne CANNOT Carry 'The Breakfast Club' without DJ Envy Says Joe Budden
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Envy could be replaced. Charla matters more than Envy or Yee did on the show. But Charla still needs good supporting co-hosts.
Yep!
That goes for any podcasting ..
No one is irreplaceable.
@freelancecarrot That’s a lie.
@commonsense3921 There's always someone better out there...
I disagree. Charla IS the breakfast club.
You say that but they have changed co hosts a million times since Yee left and the feeling hasn’t been the same since. Envy leaving would kill the show completely. Charlamagne really doesn’t have as much star power or pull as yall think. He’s really not even entertaining on his own podcast.
@@CeeBee3ThatBoyI agree with you. What made BC special was the dynamic between all 3 hosts, not just Charla.
@@CeeBee3ThatBoythey’re not changing cohosts they’re doing rotational cohost.
Not really he lost real men long time ago
**Ciara
This will be real interesting to see what iHeart Media does because they can realistically go after Envy and Cesar for using their platform to perpetuate this scam, and damaging their reputation as a result.
They haven’t done much yet so that says something!
true
I'm curios to see how this is going to unravel@@wadduphotthing
This whole take is a lie. Feds never raided I heart radio. Caesar was arrested for ONE COUNT OF WIRE FRAUD ONE COUNT NOTHING ELSE!!! they said he stole 17 million and it’s already proven one of the guys who invested 800k sued even though HE GOT HIS MONEY BACK INTEREST he still sued smfh his case was dismissed
@@wadduphotthing well, the fact that the feds came to iHeart's building and removed things, and that people are including iHeart as a defendant in civil suits stemming from Envy and Cesar Pena did should tell you that they're about to do something.
Charlemagne has had several talk shows by his self that have sadly gotten cancelled or ended he works better working with a team
Serious question- what keeps charlamane around? Are people checking for his content? Based on what you just said no one is really looking for content from him right ?
@@ebsrok6681wrong. No one watched tv in general. Had nothing to do with who’s checking for him or not. Charla is still a big part of the culture.
@@TheIcemanthomas ok , why though ? That’s what I’m trying to ask . What does he contribute ?
Correct. Because the guy is a little bit douchey.
@@TheIcemanthomas I wouldn't say that necessarily. New tv shows pop up all the time and have solid viewership. I think a maybe more accurate statement would be that Charlemagne's audience doesn't watch tv. His fan base was gained from radio and his podcast which is on the internet. It takes a lot to get people to follow you from different platforms.
I don’t think Charlemagne could carry the show on his own, but If he had a good cohost it could work
"IF"
Envy a perfect punching bag. Fuc all them niqqas but when the show funny it funny because they’re dunking on him
Lmao charlamagne can, he's the reason the breakfast club popular, 94% of people like charlamagne in the breakfast.
That’s totally different than being able to do a show by yourself and still be entertaining. That’s why star will always be the goat
You must not heard the shows when he did try to hold it down himself lmao
Dark skin charla can, but not the new woke charla
Except Lil Mama
Love how you completely pull out a percentage out of you a s s with zero data
Liability does not start when the lawsuits start. The lack of liability is the cause of the lawsuits.
The cause of the lawsuits is due to the crimes committed. Those liable are the ones targeted. Even those who aren’t liable could be sued to raise awareness.
Charlemagne carrying Envy to be honest.
If you let him go then you're kind of admitting that they're guilty
He is
No. Thats not how it works in this case. He was on the radio promoting a scam.. That is not hearsay or an opinion, that is a fact. The day an fbi raids your building, thats all the civil side needs. The feds case will take years to play out.
The worst thing they can go is keep him, then the feds or the civil courts find him guilty because that is even worse than letting him go. Envy is done and Iheart will be complicity to his actions since they were not paid to advertise the scam. Had Iheart been paid 20 dollars for it, then it would be a business transaction but since it wasnt, then they become a partner in crime even though they are not personally gaining from it
@larrymcclurkin5526 iHeart Radio as an entity is not guilty of any crime. HOWEVER, civil wise it can be made to look like "You allowed this man to use YOUR PLATFORM to do his side hustle which was not on the up and up. Even though you did not back his side hustle, you are complicit in allowing him to use your platform and by extension reputation to perpetuate this scam". Where as iHeart's legal defense to that would be "We trusted our host because we had no reason to believe he was using our platform to do anything illegal. We are just as much a victim in all this as you are in that his illegal activities has damaged our reputation".
Not necessarily he is bad for business guilty or not because he does not vet who he does business with
I meant in a civil case obviously. Didn't think I would have to explain that when there is no criminal offense in the case. But please continue with the sanctimonious comments, didn't know there were so many attorneys online. I apologize for not being specific.
Envy's job is the intro. Someone else can do that!
😂facts
😂😂😂😂
Honestly, if they have Charlamagne and actually sign on Jess Hilarious and keep another, maybe Claudia Jordan or possibly another, they'll be good. Charla and Jess themselves have been amazing.
Claudia!!!!
Don’t nobody want two females on that show permanently relax
Yea Jess not it. Sign somebody else and bring Jess on here and there. All she do is yell and tell lame jokes. If Charla and envy was hyped wit another cohost it’ll be a different.
God no, not Jess.
Hell no
0:53 I hate when ppl get corrected but still try to their way into being right lol
Ish is dumb
Exactly. That says a lot about his character
...but the guy did have a valid point. Just because Ornery Joe didn't like it doesn't make it wrong.
He honestly didn't I don't know what you're smoking. Dude even tried to justify the numbers. Lol
Envy won the donkey of the day, bet he won’t cover it lol
Joe budden wanna see envy get locked up and he especially wants to see him get fired 😂😂😂 he makes it mad obvious lmao
Joes hate for the breakfast club is crazy
Cmon the show hasn’t been good in 5 maybe 7 years. Non-woke Charlamagne is what made the show. At this point they’re just playing on nostalgia and the occasional unexpected guest.
I don't think he hates the show. He dislikes the fact that the two men on the BC always takes shots at him even when he thinks he's being above board
Joe and Charla should co host together. That would be awesome 😂
@@LovesAlchemist how can you be sensitive about somebody taking a shot at you when you constantly take shot at others. Also using your podcast to try to bury this man in criminal charges is a bitch ass move..
Right ,especially for Charlamayne 😅😅😅
Joe didnt even try to do his PODCASTwithout Co host lmaoooo Bro was so insecure after Rory/Mal left he basically forced Ice and Ish to be on the pod when neither wanted to (they've talked about this themselves)....Yet he wants to talk about Charla Lmaooooooooooooooo
RIGHT. DIDNT DRAKE ETHER THIS CLOWN? TALKIN BOUT BREAKFAST CLUB WHEN U STOLE FROM YOUR PODCAST PARTNERS U ONE HIT WONDER YEARS CORNBALL...
CAN JOSEPH BUDDEN CARRY HIS PODCAST WITHOUT RORY AND MAL? NOPE
They could start each episode with a collect call from envy
😂
Doing a collect call off a radio show is NUTS
😂y’all petty asab
This comment made me holler 🤣🤣
I love mature debates.
These clips bout to do numbers!!!😂
It’s a lot harder to cast hosts under pressure than having the time to do that . I think this is the end of the breakfast club . Unless Char understands it’s his opportunity to make it his own podcast and cast a cohost asap, he must take the helm and help them produce the show .
you telling me Charla can’t carry the show for a few months ?? You crazy
We need an attorney to speak on this. Its easy to see how they can come after iHeart for settlements this shit goes up the hill!!!!!
Envy cannot be replaced… Facts
I think with someone else he could. When he isn't there the show has always felt dead. He just needs someone that compliments the style of the breakfast club
Charlemagne actually doesn't need anyone else on that show to be successful. He has grown exponentially as a host and now has a great balance of serious and comical insight. He can upset you and make you smile in the same moment. Envy shows his emotional weakness too often and Angela yee just brought the whole show down every time she opened her mouth.
Talk to ‘em!
This is what everyone (big fan of the show for yrs might i add) knows, but we love them enough to never say ‼️
When Ish tries to sound smart it cracks me the fuck up! 😂
He’s just wrong and keeps going 🤦♂️
Tries you know lol
he is right
It’s wild that Ish’s first instinct is to blame the people that have been scammed and not the scammers.
They didnt do shit right they gave a former convicted credit card scammer thousands it is what it is they're ignorant
I meannnn at a certain point of finance you should be able to recognize certain very blatant red flags and dig deeper into what you're investing in. Thats more so the point he's trying to make. Not necessarily "blaming the victim"
Exactly!
Ish is literally a criminal himself. Wtf did you expect?
Right...talking about "hood n!ggas"...smh.. he's ignorant
He be aiight Envy don’t add nothing to the show .. He like Mal
Like Mal is crazy
😂😂😂😂
Mal dope tho
Daaaamn son
I like how Joe clarified for the jumpsuit guy. He was trying to sound smart without recognizing contingency planning required to protect a major corporation.
I think uncle Charla would need co hosts. He is better when he builds/bounces off other people. He’s hilarious but he def couldn’t do it alone. Even if they did get others, it wouldn’t be the same without Envy! Their banter is amazing.
I think Charlamange is pretty much the face of the breakfast club atp but he definitely shouldn't carry the show alone for the simple fact that he needs somebody in the room to play off of. He needs a straight man to riff off of otherwise he'll just be saying wild shit unchecked, though he still does regardless of who is in the room anyway lol. But the show needs balance to work. Kinda like when Desus covered the DJ Envy news on The Daily Show the other night; it was cool seeing Desus get his jokes in but the whole time I kept thinking "this segment would be so much funnier if Mero was here too."
Not many can stand alone.
@@willpower3317 Exactly but that's especially true when you come up with other people. If you're a solo act, you can make it work.
Attorneys were present on some of those deals
messy headline Lol we love it
if they let him go... they will have to be responsible for many lawsuits. the show needs a balance show.
What ever the out come is the breakfast club will NEVER be the same 🤦♂️
Rick Ross chilling on the sideline saying, Ennnnnnnvyy!!!
I normally forget Envy is even there until he does the outro.
I live for the banter/fliriting between DJ Envy and CTG. They gotta keep him. 🙏🏼
Char & Envy make a great Duo
For those that don't know tell us why The Breakfast Club can not let go of DJ Envy
He got caught scamming the fans. But that dude is boring as hell, and asks the most generic questions possible, they could upgrade and give the show a fresh start, I hadn't watched in years cause he and Yee were boring as hell and Charla kind of changed, or I just matured idk.
Because he’s crucial to 1 of their shows. Of course they can let him go, but that’d be a big sacrifice.
@@michaelturley8222and he’s MAD corny
🤣☠️ No one caught that joke lol. I caught it
@@earlyn7233that was such an Envy question 😂
I don't understand why you don't have someone updating your video descriptions. 😂
Man when the ball drops.😏
The show is not the same since Yee left. It is not bad but it just isn't the same. If Envy goes it will be something totally different.
Angela yee is sooooo boring lol then she constantly gives relationship advice unmarried in her 40s but I know she has fans
I agree with the Yee departure from the show. It hasn't been the same, that's true. To me, now the show appears to be darker in tone.
Y’all just be saying anything .. the breakfast was not the same anymore even the last 2 years with Angela yee on there
Angela Yee? Really?😂😂😂
Char & Envy are a great Duo and Yee was useless & extremely dull & boring
Charla is the show but envy was a good person to go back and forth with. So idk where the breakfast club goes from here
lol wym bout from here? envy is still there as of now
All DJ Envy do is spin record 😂
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO ( I READ THIS IN DOLLA BILL VOICE)
Who ya think ya is...DJ Quik huh? Kid Capri..huh? Oh oh oh you must be Jimmy Walker. Boy you aint nuttin'!!! You bets to get on out my faaaace...fo' you get swole!!!
Free legal lesson...if Envy got compensation from guest to bring them on the show, that's an fcc crime. Also, if Envy has any knowledge of the fraud and used the radio station to get the victim's I hart has civil exposure... the employer is liable for the acts of the employees...for acts committed during the course of employment.
You a lawyer?
@@Atribecalledsuccess yeah, but ignore the typos 😂🤣
@@DebtFreeDad 😂😂😂😂 I bet
They should hire bow wow to take envy place. We never heard bow wow stealing 😂
Perfect replacement
Actually that makes sense. Bow is an OG to the rap game he just has to brush off his 106 & park interviewing Skills.
Ish talks but doesnt listen! Joe Budden literally told him what Flex said about taking on the lawsuits if they dismiss him because that implies guilt. He literally ignored that and just repeated what he was saying !!!
But if they continue to keep Envy on as this scandal progressively gets worse and gets more attention, there's gonna be a lot of fallout between iHeart and everyone calling for him to be out the door. This thing could potentially become a powder keg the longer they keep him on there because they are not responsible for his actions in using their platform to promote an illicit side hustle that turned out to be not legit. They wouldn't want that kind of heat legally.
@@starofgideonThey're giving benefit of doubt and waiting on due process bc envy could sue for wrongful termination.
But they could drop him over the payola aligations.
@@hhhy9160I think payola is worse
The dude with the white jump suit didn’t do his homework. Joe knows what he’s talking about.
Everyone can be replaced
CTG is the star. TBC doesn’t need Envy.
I could see the breakfast club surviving with Charla, Jess, and Claudia 🤷🏾♂️
ish . . . we picking up what you’re putting down!
Lol 0:50 that such a silly thing to say
Envy and Charla both are fighting million dollar lawsuits. Charla dragged IHeart with him in a lawsuit. The whole Breakfast Club needs to be revamped
What lawsuit is Charla facing
@XxOgulushuluwayixX him and IHeart are being sued by his rape victim due to him continuing to speak about drugging and raping women.
@@Sunshine52198old news
CHARLA can definitely hold it down but I love Envy . He will be definitely missed. They both bring their own things to add to the Breakfast Club❤❤❤
Selling houses with Big Pun, son!
Dude in the white doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The fact that the crime was discussed and advertised on their platform makes them partially liable.
Charlamagne ain’t gonna be able to carry the breakfast club without envy just like Charlamagne and Envy couldn’t carry the Breakfast club without Angela Yee. It doesn’t matter who they get to take Envy’s place.
Agreed
Stop.. the breakfast just not the same anymore even the last 2 years with Angela yee on there
Char & Envy make a great Duo without Yee-Wong boring & dull self
DJ Envy is there to be the annoying contrast to Charlemagne’s stardom. He makes Charla look better even tho Charla doesn’t need it. Like how a sidekick makes the main hero look even better due to the relative difference.
Yes! It’s like ying/yang thing.
I agree with Ish first 2 minutes. Those firms have attorneys & lawyers to look into shidd that they need to be done! Nobody read the paperwork or paid attention to where the money went too!
You'd be surprised how many idiot lawyers there are and how many companies don't practice due diligence. Think about all of the companies and rich people that got taken by NFTs😂😂
Just because the feds come in your building shouldnt be a scary thing thats literally what the accountants are there for they prepare diligently for any kind of possible investigation tax lawyers etc
I love The Breakfast Club, I would truly be sad if it ended. I’m wishing them the absolute best!
Why?
13 years, they've had a good run. Lucky if the show goes past Christmas.
It’s not ending 🤣
They had a great run but all things must come to a end. The show isn’t what it used to be. They don’t have the interviews I use to love anymore.
@@bv3124 I remember in a gangster movie, that when you start off you're the hero, but if you stay too long you become the bad guy...!
So are we saying that Angela Yee go out at the exact right time?? 😂😂 Charla is by default going to have his own show 😂😂
Yee is/was extremely dull & boring - Char & Envy make a great Duo
They owe the IRS for unpaid taxes plus penalties from the date they took money
When he said Inner city people getting scammed and no one cares that’s when it came to all of those information sessions. That’s also a loss.
If DJ Envy gets convicted and goes to jail. Joe Budden might as well post a Throwback video and show he warned DJ Envy but clearly didn't care to listen
Joe just said imma take this time to hate😂😂😂
In true Joe fashion 😅
The low level shade …..😮💨
I think letting him go would mean that iheart is accepting responsibility for his errant behavior...especially if they have been included in the lawsuit...they are closing ranks... as long as they are employing him they can share the blame...in my humble opinion
Has ish not ever heard of enron and Bernie madoff.. I am quite concerned when he claims to be a business investor but is saying this is low scale a $100 mil is a lot to lose whether you got it from 1 person or 1000 people it’s a loss that most people will never come back from
Charla makes the show. His Brilliant idiots show with Shultz is really entertaining. Time to bring in some new ppl or end the show
DJ Envy is literally the voice of TBC
Not gonna lie im feeling the pink panther sweater bro..
If it’s proven that Envy is a victim which will be determined by the court, maybe he won’t lose his job. However, it was because of Envy that so many people signed up for the scheme. I’m not sure how iHeart will be able to look past that. Maybe depends on that employee handbook or the agreement?
How is he a victim . If he lost money and still promotes it . And he lied and said he made no money when his partner confirmed he received pay and named and a co founder ?
It has never been proved that he is a victim. YOU are a liar and your beloved dj is going to jail!
he said he did deals and made money that's why he chose to promote him but he is out of 500,000 dollars of his own money
Theyll have to hire AK
Charla can definitely do it alone!! He’s the only reason I watch anyway!!♟️🖤🏁
Joe Budden should take over from Envy at the Breakfast club lol
We disagree. He has helped a lot of people and he will stay relevant with or without Envy. Charla is the breakfast club and is truly loved by millions. I hope he is keeping a list❤
Nah nah. Say YOU disagree. You can't speak for the rest of us wtf.
@@royalfreshness815 you’re right. Wrong choice of words.
@@royalfreshness815The person is using the Royal We. I think.
The Show can Survive Without DJ Envy he's boring and all in his feeling When talk about Women because of his Wife.
When he was going back and forth with Tyrese I knew his time was over..all that from his side was unprofessional and personal it should’ve never been on the show
Along with Rick Ross
Ish sound like he invested 😂😂😂
CTG is bigger than TBC and this will put him in the position to be a newer version of Howard Stern where they’ll build an ensemble cast around him at some point but ultimately it will be his show.
This isn’t looking too good for Envy. I hope he didn’t purposely try to take advantage of people and he was just stupid to believe this Ceasar guy that learned real estate in prison 🤦🏽♂️
I think it may have started that way, but somewhere down the line he got greedy, and he started relishing in all that money that was coming in.
@@hgates yeah I was also thinking that also .
Charlemagne is the show! 😂😂
Basically, who watches the breakfast club for anything other than Charlemagne?
iHeart has a plan, we know that there is a serious reason as to why DJ Envy is still there. To protect themselves, they should keep DJ Envy, since he has a contract and it still needs to be proven in a court of law. They knew Envy would sue them and had sued a radio station before. I am very sure that a few of the claimants are suing iHeart as well. Patience is a virtue.
I cant even concentrate on what they are saying, Joes outfit is pissin me off too much Lol
There’s no breakfast club without Envy and Charla
This is a fine example when Joe be hating, the breakfast club is Charlamagne for real.
I hear Rory is replacing DJ Envy! 👀
I wanna know how does he know it was Gary Vee’s friends that got scammed 🤔🤔
Charla IS the breakfast club, ENVY! Wouldn’t be able to carry breakfast club if we’re being honest.
If they let Envy go, iHeart is basically admitting to having knowledge of what was going on with Envy.
Not necessarily. I think you guys are reading too much into this. Also Ish is stupid as hell
Not necessarily. It could be a preemptive move to prevent damage to the company. If you work for a company and many allegations with proof showed up that you were flashing little old ladies on the train, the company can terminate you.
What that makes zero sense u can let someone go off simple allegations wtf u talking about. So when the NFL let’s coach’s go for a domestic violence issue that means they had knowledge of him beating his wife for years? No it just means they were made aware of an allegation. They don’t even know if the allegations is true or not & they still let ‘em go
Dame tried to tell Envy!! Damn Son
They just gotta start a whole new club and Charla gotta lead them in or go behind the scenes with it
Bring Yee back they can carry it. Envy always been whack.
Yee is boring, that's why her new show is unpopular. Also, she can't stand Charlamagne.
Joe thought Ish was going to immediately kick their backs in. When he didn’t do that, Joe proceeded to talk over him, change the goal post, and flat out claim “I don’t like your take”
Oh the JBP, where it’s either Joe’s way or no way
No ish had a pointless take and actually tried to only say “I’m directly talking about I heart radio liability” … well no sh*t, how is one of their top revenue drivers not a direct liability to the company…is ish not a direct liability to joes brand if he’s arrested and being charged ?? then he says if they feel the slightest…. Fam he’s one of their direct revenue drivers , the risk is now real not rumors…. Just because you think it makes sense doesn’t “objectively” mean it makes sense. Ish knows his stuff be he just wanted to disagree for the sake of it here.
Why does everyone have teeth whitening stripes in 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Sheesh
Was always thinking what DJ Envy is still doing there and skipped his parts because there was nothing to it
Don’t sleep on The God. He’s a genius. He knows how to put a team together and he has some solid friends in the game. Charlemagne is gonna prosper.
Peace
People are suing iHeart because they falsely advertised Flippin NJ which clearly was a scam. DJ Envy is liable!!
Why this feel like he debating his dad?
He is right. Hire lawyers to look over your s*** before you go into business with them