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Hollywood Celebrities Have Discovered KPOP and I’m Scared
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- Опубликовано: 19 дек 2021
- hopefully the next hollywood beauty trend is something fun like finding out what your Fursona is or something~
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never thought i’d see the day when me and tom holland have the same bias in BTS. I saw a few tiktoks over the past few weeks talking about how popular celebs are ditching old plastic surgery trends for new ones inspired by Korean entertainment and Kbeauty. After Squid Game and Kpop Idols started taking over the world people are starting to adopt a new standard of beauty through their fashion and facial features. People noticed after seeing Ariana Grande come out with a new patch update. I thought it was a very interesting topic to talk about since everyone and their dog is going through some sort of K-POPification. Hollywood Celebrities Have Discovered Kpop and I’m Scared #edvasian
If you have colored hair and also like kpop please let me know what color. I’m conducting a science experiment~
Dark blue underlying tone with white roots... totally NOT addicted to K-pop
blonde with black undercut
Half white and half red. I was going for Todoroki and remembered Taeyong did this hairstyle only towards the end of my braids.
Maroon lol
My hair is half pink purple and half dark purple 💜
Haven't you heard? Being a person of color is cool and trendy... if you're not actually a person of color.
This
As a minority I can confirm this to be true
Like wtf yall was callin us dirt now yall wanna be us so bad🙄
when did that happen?
@@panpanscorner332 facts
Louder.
I like kpop but I feel that since it's blown up people of other cultures want to become them honestly I preferred it when I didn't know people who changed their races existed
Same it’s very disturbing. Races aren’t trends, we’re humans.
*cough, cough, oli london, cough cough* oh sorry I didn't know I had such a bad cough
@lovely morning star I’m sorry what..? Gender and race are totally two different things. Anyone can be whatever gender or sexuality they want, but no one can be “asian” just because they feel like it and other race in general. Especially non-pocs who never dealt with the hate crime, trauma etc they went through.
Obviously this video is talking about HOW Western celebs are trying to imitate korean/ asian looks because it’s “hot/trendy” when it’s not… They did the same thing with BIPOC, The body figures, skin, hair etc. Even Kpop has taken influence from rap/hip-hop, clothing etc..
Weird how yt people can just choose what race they want to play for, for the day.
@lovely morning star I’m sorry, what the fuck does gender have to do with this?
As a Mexican American who likes kpop, I assure you I'm not like those weirdos who want to be Korean/Asian. I love the music and am learning the language and culture. But I'm not claiming it or being weird, it's not hard to be respectful of other cultures lol!
people want to be asian/black until they have to speak out about the social problems that these minorities suffer, it is more aesthetically pleasing to live in a fantasy.
As an indigenous person I'm afraid people will think I'm an "asianboo" when I'm just (trying to) living my life. Nice content. :)
same, i'm latina and i've always been told i "look asian", so now i'm scared to try korean makeup techniques bc i don't want people to think i'm asian fishing
@@orianatbh that sounds horrible honestly (not being able to do something fun bc people will assume and judge). I say do what you want, as long as you don’t intend to do something bad.
I’m half native too and my eyes are sort of small so I hope I don’t get accused for Asian fishing by the fake Asian girl 🤪🖐🏻
@James Henry Smith
1) I'm not a Native American
2) indigenous people from different places have different traits/characteristics
@@orianatbh SAME:|
It went from Black American to Korean (K-Pop). Can't wait to see who is going to be next...
Dont forget how everyone wants to be Latino now
They will be coming for us latinos
@@elbuki4547 it was in 2017 when Despacito came out
Then Latinos are gonna be THE thing- and then idk what... maybe European?? Loool
I am guessing Turkish or Indian.
i personally really like korean makeup and fashion trends, the soft-rosy-slightlysparkly makeup looks are kinda easy to achieve and they look good on almost everyone, and the "everyday fashion" of plain colors and layering looks really cool. With that being said, i wouldn't like other stuff about korean beauty to get popular : the need for plastic surgery, the obsession with luxury brands, or those totally random stuff like having a "small face", a long neck or having literally no pores.
You better preach👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
No pores 😂😂
100% agree with you there, liking and wanting to try the fashion trends or makeup techniques isn't an issue for me but in reality the beauty standards are very harsh idols get hated for having a "ugly" face, plastic surgery is given/ required by idol companies (I believe) if they wanna make it in the industry because a pretty face is so important. it's unrealistic to be searching for that level of beauty and perceived perfection, (which i am guilty of by using apps like snow) but perfection doesn't come from having zero pores and it'll never be achieved anyway bc you'll always be unhappy with yourself if you chase the perceived beauty standards to be regarded as pretty by others.
@James Henry Smith you know what i don't really agree or believe in that kind of stuff but i'd really like if you could elaborate more on this, you sparked my curiosity
@James Henry Smith literally shut up lmao
It’s so annoying how all of a sudden American celebrities will act like they know and care so much for BTS, when they actually know they will get a lot of money from working with them. It makes me heart hurt for them…
Imagine if they start copying the photocards 💀💀 But I feel like the group and the fan support/bond (?) is something they’ll never be able to get though. Army has been there for BTS and BTS had been there for Army. When what these people are doing is trying to make a copy of how they market stuff/ how they do things. But that would never be as genuine ever, since they’re doing this for the money and just the kardashians as an example, they use any scandal they get to market/ profit anything and not to mention they’re trying to be a whole different race 😭
Bruh that happens to every celebrity that gets big. Not just BTS. Idk why y’all keep acting as if it’s an only BTS thing. It’s happened to 1D and so many other bands…🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Fr and they treated them so bad at first
@@user-zk2bj6tl5x didn't Shawn me mendes make a lightstick, I don't follow him but I remember seeing something of the sort a few years ago
@@user-zk2bj6tl5x photo cards do not came from kpop
It is a very weird feeling as a millennial who grew up loving KPop/R&B/Rap, JPop and anime and being made fun of soooo much for it (and I wasn't even an insane fan) to seeing how popular it is now. I don't usually gatekeep any of my hobbies or fandoms but it does put a bad taste in my mouth that so many ppl shit on this type of stuff only to turn around and be obsessed with it.
Yes! I agree, being constantly mocked and made fun of plus the casual racism when they 'joke' about it was awful, and now years later the same people express how they love it 🤧
@nattmoonlight:3 yeah totally, but those racist remarks still stick with me 😐. People werent just mocking what I liked, they mocked my race along with doing so. It's just very amusing to see how they follow trends like sheep
I feel you. I had the same experience.
I usually wasn't talking about my music preferences.
It was the same for me.
f e l t
rap and black culture is pretty much the backbone of kpop, so i don’t think it’s really wise to say koreans can take any aspect from any culture, but no one can do the same back, it’s hypocritical.
literally 😭 knowing damn 75% of idols have either been racist towards black people or culturally appropriated african americans or other black peoples …
Honestly
as a asian person myself, I sadly have to admit that I definitely noticed this issue often, I'm not necessarily a fan of kpop, but I definitely liked a couple of songs, and some watch some dramas here and there.
I've seen videos where they say the N word, and I'd like to apologize for behalf of these people, appropriating, being racist towards black people, and especially with the obsession of most asians to be as white as a vampire, hating darker skin tone, a.k.a colorisism
Yes I read the video title and imagined that African American hip hop artists must have felt this when kpop founders and Kpop artists discovered their music and culture 😃
True, every group be having a rapper
yeah this whole koreaboofication of the west doesn’t sit well with me at all. again it’s like we’re brushing anti-asian hate under the carpet and focusing only on the glamour of kpop or asian fishing, bc those things are fancy, shiny, and monetizable. it’s also a new generation of yellow fever or orientalism, glamourizing the nicer aspects without fully understanding the nuances of the culture, the language, and the people.
Couldnt have said it better
Perfectly said!
I am from Russia and a lot of my friends pretend to be half Korean/East Asian. Compare it to bi-racials in the USA. It's exotic and pretty, and the whole world is obsessed with this place. We call it Asianfishing and Ariana made this term well known. LOL
its so funny how we have to trend #stopasian hate on literally every platform and media so that "they" will stop harassing asians. an innocent grandma was harassed on the streets just bcs she was asian. Like wtf. and it was like months ago now, now look at "them" 😆
The fact that they will harass Asians on the street,kill them and be racist towards them but when they can profit from Asian fishing they'll do it with no shame like before making profit out of it first start respecting Asians as humans.
The modelling, marketing, promoting brands side of Kpop is definitely something I could do without. There's too much of it, in my opinion.
Honestly like Western celebrities are already annoying as it is cuz we get to see them grow or something
True. I cant believe how a lot of people would buy the products that their faves are ambassadors of. This era of worshipping celebs is sure a scary one.
it’s a marketing strategy for companies. ever noticed how a popular group becomes ambassadors of a brand and it sells out quickly? just because a few fans say they’re tired of it doesn’t mean the company will stop. it’s a way to make more money.
Yup!
Than again that’s been around for years, maybe not with Kpop but with celebrities in general, so, I don’t think that’s exclusive to Kpop idols
I would really appreciate if the next trend is eye bags and declining mental health because bestie I'm so tired 😭
Tik tok already tried the eye bags trend ndnd
it is now on tiktok
when being latino was trendy, we also felt a bit confused bc we're often discriminated for that reason, etc. now it seems it's the asians' turn to be trendy, so good luck, i guess.
the only thing i hope from this is that the majorities begin to respect the minorities and also that the minorities begin to respect each other, maybe all these weird trends will help lol
Cuando fue eso? No me enteré que los latinos estaban de moda jajajaj
La peor parte es que se llenan de los estereotipos molestos como "spicy latin@" y nos generalizan un montón.
The worst part is that they get filled with the estereotypes of "spicy latino/a" and they generalize a lot.
@@naomiperez7257 mal, y nunca falta el boludito que te dice "ah, no pareces latino :0" por culpa de esos estereotipos
@@uuseer01 ahora creo que ya no, pero el año pasado sí
@@skulliu aah
This is why I don’t ever like trying to fit beauty standards. You ultimately either never fit them or it immediately changes once you’re considered “ideal”. Everyone has beauty just the way they are. It’s better to just learn to love yourself for who you are(despite being harder) and make your appearance the way YOU want it. Like surgery is completely fine, but do it to please YOURSELF, not to please others.
It is like the children's book about star bellies.
@@flowerfleur8105 factssssss
100% agree with you - beauty standards change so frequently and it’s not worth chasing after fitting into them tbh
@@kaiipop4762 exactly! Like i hate how society praises such unrealistic standards of people instead of just praising good people who are confident in themselves. All it ends up being is depressing and exhausting and nobody ends up ever getting what they’re chasing since it always changes. Like imo true beauty is just loving yourself and being your unapologetic and honest self. Not being what others want you to be. That’s just my opinion at least
This is completely off topic but I noticed ur pfp and was happy to see another banana fish fan ❤️
I wanted kpop to be popular everywhere, but not like this 😔
Fr
Same. 😭😭
the music is trash now
Be carful what you wish for now you get it
Same
I appreciate you acknowledging that K-POP is heavily influenced by rap/hip hop(black culture).
Black culture doesnt exist plus kpop takes influences from all over the world like hip hop ironically. What you saying is pointless.
Yes! So many ppl never give black culture it's props.
Not to be defensive but the "Black" parts of kpop are like what was popular in the USA back then
Thing with Ariana is, and this is something her stans cannot admit, she didn’t just change her makeup or loose weight, she literally got surgery to look more asian 🤦🏻♀️ why else would Ollie London congratulate her lmao
I dont think she tried to purposeley look Asian. She just got the pony tail face lift that literally every celeb is getting and it made her eyes look botched.
I don't think olli london would count as a reliable source
She doesn’t look asian. She looks very white
I agree with your comment in the sense that she did surgery, like another brow lift or something but "why else Ollie London would congratulate her" ?? Lol since when is he a realible source when he's one of the most delusional people we know..
If she wanted to be Asian wouldn’t she be with an Asian man? Make it make sense 🤔
Beauty standards just keep changing and changing, basically everyone is beautiful but it's just not a beauty trend or anything yet.
@@hermeslein6614 what are you trying to get out of saying this to me?
@@wheresmyjams1 america is over China will outpower Usa and Korea soon south Korea will be Communist
@@hermeslein6614 what does that have to do with anything here?
FR AND LITERALLY I WAS WEIRD FOR LIKING KPOP IN 2019? bruh I feel like celebrities are acting as if they live under a frickin 🪨 (edit: mb I mean 2018) but anyways
@@sweetener9917 just wait a few years and living under a rock will be a trend💀
Over 15 years ago I was the first person in my grade to ever like Kpop
Probably in my school.
Totally made fun of.
Now I'm an adult and it's "weird" for people in my age group still.
But it's slowly being accepted, or people think they are cool for liking ONE DAM GROUP.
Don’t even get me started, these people don’t even know Bigbang and it makes me crazyyyyy! Also how can you say you like a genre but only like one band of said genre!?!?!? Make it make sense!!
I’m not the first one to like kpop in my school, but now that I do, they think I’m crazy bcs I’m one of the “smarter kids” (which is totally not true its just a standard they set for me bcs I did well in KINDERGARTEN. freaking kindergarten.) and if ever ppl ask me abt kpop and I answer, they call me a very “typical” stan aka the ones that are crAzY over everything abt korea, when I’m literally just expressing my answer for their question. It’s kinda fun tho bcs there are a bit of kpop fans in my school and its fun to talk abt kpop with them, but its just the others opinions that gets me lol
@@meme101RE lol Last Farewell lives in my brain and plays whenever it feels the need 😂
@@bangtansunicorn I 100% get this. But for me it's Japan and my extended family. I listen to citypop. Watch a lot of Japanese movies, and Dramas. Like Hana Yori Dango from the 2000's is amazing.
They ask what I like, I mention I have a favourite movie director and they lose their ever loving minds. But they asked????
(I'm not a Stan, I just love movies in other languages... yes also to Korean movies and shows)
Sameeeee. I watched kdramas from 2008. It was uncool and cheesy. I was made fun of so much for liking these people who cannot even act.
Now, everyone around me is suddenly cool because they watch squid game and can say anneyeong.
Not trying to gatekeep but now, I liked the entire industry better when people were not changing races, trying to imitate the stereotypical cute accent of extending the last syllable and bully others online for not watching or watching these
"bts is single handendly paying all of koreas electricity bills" points were made facts were spilled
Its not like kpop itself is and has been USING AND ADOPTING aspects of other people's culture as their own. Especially black and latino culture. Come on guys dont be selective about when you can get mad about the same thing
This!
I know right, I love kpop but why are they making it sound like everything is about them now when they are also doing the same things they are complaining about
I'm scared of the Korean beauty standard taking over. It's the hardest to achieve and highest by FAR. I already know it would lead to Ed's, skin bleaching, a lot of skin care products to escape aging even more and plastic surgery 😭
You wouldn’t have K-pop without international influences. Plus technically you’re not successful if you don’t gain western attention that’s just how it goes in the entertainment industry overall.
That's the toxicity we need to get rid of. Not everything revolves around the west. And western attention is toxic and worser than i thought
@@shakira7301 well stop enjoying western things and I’m sure that will change for you hun
Kpop have gone global without noth america approval.
Actually, in the korean industry, one artist can be successful domestically even if they are not popular internationally because they're number one target market is korea.
Arigato Grande comeback when
😂😂
SHES DOES NOT LOOK ASAIN LMAOOO 😭😭 YALL ARE FUNNY
@@g_00ie56 I am not a fan of Ari but her situation is completely blown out of proportion
@@g_00ie56 she does lmao
@@mxhsvn_b7866 she doesn’t. Get ur eyes checked please.
I remember getting bullied for liking kpop in 2011. Now the same people who used to make fun of me are totally into kpop
@James Henry Smith cokastan
@James Henry Smith
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@James Henry Smith
You know that ain't a real bag bitch, that's a knock off
When I get that work I get to juggin' like hot sauce
All swimmin pool lakefront
Hit it from the back, rearrange her lace front
Stuntin', tattoos on my neck and on my kidney
If I don't like that ho I turn her ass into a frisbee
If I dont like your disc I turn that ho into a frisbee
I throw it out on Old Nat right by the Wendy’s
Three cellphones and all of 'em jumpin'
I can see your hoes and all em' nothing
Yeah I'm a don don', Don Cheadle, Don Cornelius
Watch the Dom spill
Pockets fat as Don Cartagena, nigga, done deal!
@James Henry Smith
Baby I'm ashamed, why you acting this way?
Heard she 'bout that action, you can bring her this way
Hit her on yo mattress, make you feel some type of way
Pass her to my migos, they gonna bust it, ¡Andale!
Please don't play no games cause I know thats what you like
Knock it out the frame, baby girl, it's alright
Yeah that pussy bomb, I just call it dynamite
You ready? Here I come, I can do this shit all night
Oml same here! but I started in 2012.
Being completely honest, I don’t think kpop will take over the world, the industry is just leaving a tiny gap for bts and they won’t give more. In my day to day life most of the people I know are not into kpop, they acknowledge it, they know it exists but they don’t like it, so when artists realise their audiences prefer their blackfishing they’ll go back to that.
I’ve been a fan of Kpop since Gen 1 so it’s nice to see it getting this popular but it’s also strange seeing this new generation of fans so aggressive about their fandom. Like back in the day many of us were in the closet about liking Kpop and only discussed it with our online friends on forums.
I feel like this universly ambiguous look is unquily an American thing but I could be wrong. Aslo the fact everyone is looking towards kpop for fashion advice scares me cause nobody understands the over consumerism culture in korea
as someone from western Europe, I agree. People use fake tan but that's not trying to make themselves look racially ambiguous, its simply wanting to look like you actually get sunshine for more than 1 hour a day (unless you live in Spain or Portugal or something and don't need it- in that case I envy you).
But for the most part, any trends that are 'problematic' because they make people look racially ambiguous are either not here at all, or brought in by Americans.
I'm west and central asian but I live in west Europe, I can agree on that
Looking racially ambiguous on whites women is becoming the beauty trend mainly in western countries. Examples like Kardashians/Jenner and jesy Nelson are all white women who really alter their looks to look exotic
@@shelby9510 I agree that it's a western thing, but it's 99.9% an American thing
@@amyosullivan8629 it’s not, jesy Nelson is an example of this.
I sure do understand this weird feeling of once being the only one to like kpop or asian media in a group of friends and now have people constantly talking about it, but I hope everyone remembers that the kpop industry dreamed of being part of this whole "hollywood club" all this time. But since Korea was such an isolated country,it took a long time, and we all got used to the way it was, and now when they're finally "becoming a part of it" ( I used "cuz honestly,I dont feel like the KPOP INDUSTRY it's being integrated onto it, but instead only what's famous in the moment, aka, BTS) it feels weird for us.
My problem is not them interacting with americans our international artists, and surprisingly, not the whole promotion everywhere either. But instead the fact for anything to be included onto the Hollywood, or even just americans famous people club( which are seen as an achievement of huge success), they have to """""abandon""""" their culture and become americanized. English songs, english propaganda,american style dance moves and songs. It's one thing to try and communicate with fans around the world, but I feel like this is getting out of control, and it somehow no longer feels like kpop.
I always had this feeling towards any international artist, non-americans, when they suddenly gained huge fame. I've always been happy for them,of course! But this whole idea of turning everything into american to be considered huge success, it's what bothers me.
Somehow, it feels like when they reach that "mark of success" everyone claimed about, it becomes weird, because it was not made for Asians, or Latinos, or an other culture that isn't initially part of this "american success goal", so there's no searching to try and understand other cultures, so it ends up feeling like a trend thing, that they're there because of a trend.
(obs:I'm so sorry if this all feels confusing, I tried my best to express my initial idea with my dog poop english)
Wow you spoke facts and your English isn’t bad at all it’s pretty good
But it's the sad reality because people won't even notice you or your talent unless or untill you become a part of something American because America is Indeed the biggest music industry.In the quest of getting heard by everyone in the world they have to come to America like it's really sad how BTS made such marvelous music in Korean and nobody even cared to listen to it or acknowledge it but they had to lower their music standards to fit the American one to be heard by everyone but I'm happy that now they'll be doing only Korean songs and albums.
THIS! This is exactly how I feel about kpop these days, every single word you just said is really what I am thinking! And don't worry your english is perfectly understandable!
wow, I feel like I'm reading my own thoughts written by another person
@James Henry Smith
Wish someone woul acknowledge them
I read the video title and imagined that African American hip hop/RnB artists must have felt the same when kpop founders and Kpop artists discovered their music and culture back then😃 ~ i get your point (and i do feel that East Asian fetishisation should stop along with any other cultures' cultural appropriation) but ...Just gonna leave this here ~
🙏🏿🙌🏿🙏🏿🙌🏿
exactlyyy
u right
exactly
Facts. They’re forgetting that the base of Kpop was built off the backs of greats like MJ . Without them Kpop wouldn’t be a thing.
You're pretty right but, I think every girl these days trying out a wing eyeliner is suddenly called out for "Asian Fishing". I mean if eyeliner could change races, Oli London would be a Korean by now.
Thank you.
I do more of the korean style eyeliner because the harsh winged eyeliner common here in the US just doesn’t work with my deep set eyes or my face. Using softer makeup makes my face look softer, when I inherited the long angular face that looks skeletal when i do western style makeup.
Haven’t found what exactly works for me face wise but at least i figured out the eyeliner
I guess no one looks at history anymore because that look is so retro.
im salty that my sister and her bf went to see bts in california when she only knows like, 2 songs. when my room was filled with posters and i was staying up until 4am watching videos of infinite passing paper with their mouths and begged to go see my favorite groups live, i was the weird one. sure, my sister introduced me to kpop technically by playing a b1a4 song in the car, but she was never as into it as i was. if that makes me petty, then idc. i have nothing against casual fans, but it does bother me that this entire culture only began to accept kpop because of how anglocized and "western music industry" friendly it became. i feel like the bts i always knew is a totally different group at this point. and thats not a bad thing, its just frustrating that this "new bts" is seen as "better". you cannot tell me butter is better than dead leaves and house of cards lmao
ikr...i wish...another album like wings or hyyh era happened.
i’m not an army but blood sweat and tears is their masterpiece imo. that song makes all the synapses in my brain spark in euphoria.
@@nandanajaneesh3486 I feel like another hyyh era is coming because of the last night cctv live trailer of BTS.I feel like something big is coming and that too in Korean in 2022.
I like their English stuff but I would like to see them go back to their more personalized music that we came to love them for
@M G read my comment again please, i understand that bts changed, and i said thats not a bad thing. its expected with the fame they have now. but the song quality of an album has nothing to do with their circumstances. they can write anything and people will listen to it. even if it so called "flops". the problem is that they can't write with the same level of lyrical meaning in english as they can in korean. sure, it might be just as emotional and relateable, but they are limited. i'm not criticizing their choice to be mainstream in america, if anything, i understand why they are doing it and i am glad they have the success they do. its definitely great for asian representation. i am simply criticizing the songs themselves and how being "radio friendly" is seemingly the most important factor for their success. and yes i have listened to that album, and i like majority of songs on there. but again, almost the entire album is in korean. might i emphasize that its not the eras that i miss, its the songs. but that doesn't mean that i want them to go back to that era. all of my current favs in kpop right now might have had amazing eras in the past, but that doesn't mean i wont like what they come out with next. gg in particular are killing it music wise, and i wouldn't have said that in the past. i can curb my nostalgia. btw i wasnt one of those kpoppies that criticized them for their socially critical songs. just because some people in the fandom do things that are questionable, doesn't mean everyone is like that. (also sidenote, i personally just think bts vocal line sounds the best in r&b style minus jungkook who suits both really well tbh. but thats just me)
as much as i’m happy about it, i’m also kind of sad about kpop becoming such a huge thing worldwide. i was really glad at first because people were finally appreciative of korean/east asian media. but now it’s such a huge thing and it’s become so much more… western? americanized? it’s like they’re trying too hard to cater to a western audience and honestly it’s kinda sad because it’s not really a unique part of korea anymore. not to mention it’s become so much more commercialized because of this, even more than it was before.
Kpop has always been westernised.
@@akunna6338 they mean for example bts butter is like a generic billboard pop song. Bts run or I need u does not have the generic American pop sound because this was before bts had large popularity in america
@@jasmineneuser5993 Lol songs like boy with luv, WIOM, Best of me, even Idol (removing the Korean and south African instruments), are and also have been described by people as "generic pop songs".
What makes a pop song generic? The music itself, the lyrics or the production?
A song being "generic" doesn't mean it's bad and many people love generic pop songs. Why do y'all want BTS to stay in a box and not try different kinds of music when they are many people that do like those kinds of music?
The worst thing is that their most recent album has only one "generic" pop song and yet y'all act like it doesn't exist 🙄
@@akunna6338
It's generic because of how lyrics are blend,how melody is generic,what else do you need?
Those songs dont offer anything different anyways, anyone who wanna describe them as fake deep just wanna give the excuse why they wanna force themselves into listening to them,its sad
@@notwerkinginthishouse8634 Yes, butter and dynamite have no deep meaning anyone who says otherwise is lying. But since when did music have to have deep meaning to be good? Isn't it about how it makes listeners feel?
I swear y'all are so chronically online that you are detached from the real world. I don't know why it's so hard to understand that as much as you might dislike pop songs a lot of people like them. Do those people not deserve to have songs that fits their tastes? The first time I listened to both dynamite and butter, they made me happy and still do.
Not anything must be deep, dark, heavy or have some grandiose meaning. Let people enjoy things! Kitsch or not.
When BTS make deep music people still whine and complain so I'm convinced you guys just dislike these men for no reason or maybe y'alls dislike of their fandom.
I remember getting clowned years ago by everyone for like kpop so I just kept it to myself💀😅. I think it’s pretty cool to be able to hear a kpop song playing in the store now. I believe it will get to a stage where it balances itself out in the western world once some of the hype dies down
@James Henry Smith Gangnam style was pretty popular as a single song but it didn’t popularize the Korean music industry to America quite like BTS did. I know there are other earlier groups that did have some recognition in America such as BIGBANG or Shinee but it’s not to the same degree as BTS. But in reference to I previously mentioned, kpop on a whole right now is being explored by many celebrities and normal folks at an overwhelming rate. It’s a trend. And I just find it interesting to see the general change in attitude the majority of people have for it now as opposed to 8 or even 5 years ago when I got laughed at for listening to something that wasn’t English!
@James Henry Smith baby i don’t know what you’re talking about, that has nothing to do with what I said. I’ll end the conversation here. Have a good day
I also remember the days where I was ridiculed for listening to BTS and K-pop but it is nice to know it is popular now
@James Henry Smith Not in my school tho 🥲nobody even knew Gangnam style was K-pop.
@@haw4ii96 ignore that guy. they made 7 different accounts with the similar name and similar comments. and i know that because i see them everywhere hating on bts
some of them have different numbers subscribers and the date when they joined
@@Michaelhehe thanks and the username 😩🤌
@James Henry Smithto be honest i never thought Gangnam Style before was Kpop😀
I became a casual fan of BTS a couple years ago when my kids had a German exchange student stay with us. I now love several kpop groups while my teens have "moved on" to other music.
I am hesitant to get excited that kpop is getting more popular here in the US even tho I would love for txt to do an all English mini album. But im sure I'll still be seen as a weirdo for being a fan and over the age of 30
Just don't care about what other's think. Those people who think you are a weirdo because of ur music taste and we humans have an expiration date to like a music genre aren't worth your time anyways. Avoid those people.
I think you're cool! You can like whoever you want to I'm 15 seeing and fan older than me made me happy
Nah you good, I’m 35 and been a kpop/k etc fan over a decade
omg another moa ><
but yeah it’s doesn’t matter what your age is if anyone has told u that u can’t be a fan of K-pop for being 30 , they're trying to gate keep K-pop >:p
Nah it's music. Txt and bts are the only groups in kpop that I personally feel has true versatility and grow as artists. It makes sense to like their music considering they deliver performances that are exemplary for their age.
I don't see the problem with kpop stars setting trends in fashion worldwide. American and european artists has been doing this for years, everyone follows what they're wearing and stuff. Fashion it's universal, I see kpop artists and hollywood artists taking notes from each other, there is many western trends that you wouldn't see in korea years ago and now they're wearing it. Nothing that kpop artists wear in awards are unique, because they came from luxury brands, everyone can buy them if they have money. What makes it a little different it's the fact that they don't like showing their breast area that much, so you have more behaved clothes usually because they have to look more angelic or innocent, it's a society thing while in USA they like to wear more revealing chlothes. Also the thing with the bbl it's stupid, people did this invasive procedures so they could have the kardashians boody and now the kardashians don't want these bodies anymore it's hilarious. I'm glad that in my country bbls were never a thing, if people want to grow their butts they would just go the gym.
You’re the first person I’ve seen to make a rational comment here. All this bitching and moaning over nothing is embarrassing.
Facts. The guy who made the video and the people in the comments are weird asf.
@@rotisserie8444 they want to gatekeep so hard they don't realize fashion it's universal and doesn't necessarily belongs to kpop artists, people with money will mostly wear luxury clothes too
Excactly.
You are fucking crazy bro
Your video reminds me on a conversation i had with my boyfriend last week :D he said "why is everyone of my favourite actors involved in KPop?" And yes Tom Holland, Ryan Reynolds, the other guy he mentioned... all of them are friends with BTS, EXO, Stray Kids or another group xD Even Elon Musk is friends with one of the Loona girls xD Tbh, sometimes I`m not sure if all these celebrities REALLY like kpop or just act like they do to gain more popularity. It`s really hard to tell who really likes it and who just wants to profit from it. Many american celebrities acted like they like KPop but ended up being cancelled by the community because it was obvious that they were fake (cough cough Jason Derülo and Charlie Puth, I`m looking at you)
Gowon 😂😂
Wait Charlie Puth did WHAT??!!! I knew about the jason derulo situation, but I didn't know charli pooth faked liking kpop. Oh hell nah f**k him then. I hate it when American celebs lie about liking kpop or kpop artists just to profit from it. I hate it so much and this is coming from an American. Too many sketchy mfs in LA. I feel bad for those kpop idols who got used & lied to
@@ham-sley1308 I`m also not so sure what happend because i just started liking BTS at that time. but as far as i know he followed BTS and unfollowed them soon again or stuff like that. i`m really not sure
Ariana went from looking Black to looking Asian.
although so many people dont like all the exposure kpop is getting nowadays, you have to think, because it’s becoming more popular, it’s reaching more people and can introduce kpop to someone who’s never heard of it. while it doesn’t sit right with me to like it because it’s trendy, it’s also weird to gate-keep it or get mad because you were the only one who liked it and thought you were cool and different and suddenly tons of ppl like it.
I think I'm going to stop liking korean culture because people will assume I'm a koreaboo. People for some reason fetishize koreans all the sudden. And their beauty is lowkey being pushed in the west. I absolutely hateeeee liking something that the majority is obsessed with so I'm just going to move away from korean culture honestly. Like kdramas. Love em. But nah people are being weird with it so im going to stop watching them.
@@stanfatou2002 Cute and quirky
@@stanfatou2002 please what's a koreaboo?
@@kokokreme basically someone who WANTS to be korean
@@yutisima oh, damn. Thank you
To be honest, I personally don't care about Korean beauty standards or any other country. Yeah I have many things which I would love to fix about my body but I don't care about looking like someone else or letting other people decide what I should do. I just want to to fit my own image of ideal beauty which would make me happier not just follow the trend. People literally changing their racial traits to look like other race and whatever is too much. You can be pretty in any weight, skin color, height and all. Everyone should have their own beauty standards and a style that make them feel the most confident and comfortable. Yes, you can change your looks but do it to please and satisfy yourself not others. Why is looking the same considered great? difference is what makes the world truly great in my opinion.
Totally agree with not following trends and just be who you want to be ❤️
beautifully said
@@sinforoso. Thank you!
my thoughts put into words
@@luvbug_m Thank you!
What's hilarious (but not really) is Black girls in the 90's wore colored hair, bright street styled clothing, and long colorful designer nails. They were made fun and called ghetto. Thirty years later, their style is normal and trendy. The early 2000 Hip-Hop style is making a comeback, too. Trends come and go and come back. KPop is having its moment but as was said, their style was based on Black American culture. I just like the world can appreciate each other's cultures. Black people enjoy Asian culture so it's natural that other cultures would enjoy our culture, too.
Am I bad for sometimes wanting to gatekeep something? I kind of miss being the weirdo that listen to Brown Eyed Girls and TVXQ and having those joys for me myself and I...
I would love to be a part of an american or multi-country girl group, or co-ed group, or help start groups or something. Not kpop, just a group of people who like to sing and dance. But I know that getting into entertainment like that can cause toxic environments, money issues and ehggggg. So I'll just imagine I have a band or something where everyone loves each otherrrr.
Now United says hi.
@@havensohn3821 oh my right 😂🤣
@amber nicole I think independent is the best way to go
@amber nicole hmu 2 😂💜
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Edit: the power of Stray Kids
Jingle jingle jingle all the way you got me spinning
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Crossing out X-MAS
Not sorry
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I live in Korea right now. He did mention that KPop was influenced by (or to use another word: appropriated) black culture. It's interesting to see how young millennial or gen z Koreans kind of treat Black people the way Westerners treat Koreans now in that they commodify Black people when it is beneficial to show off how "hip" they are. However, the whole thing is really complicated. Couple that with the fact that the majority of Koreans don't care about the whole "Asian fishing" thing anyway, the whole discussion just becomes meh. For younger Koreans, they have other issues they find more pressing than Western celebrities using Korean people to make themselves cooler (e.g. the Korean job market, going to hagwons, being overworked, the virus and the current mandates the government has).
Also, it's hilarious how people in the West look at K-fashion for their inspirations. I wouldn't necessarily say black, beige, tan, or brown monotone looks paired with a black long padding are fashion inspirations, but that's just me. LOL
Let's not pretend kpop hasn't culturally appropriated black culture, their aesthetic and things like that. Plus with plastic surgery being so common in Korea (like getting double eyelids etc. which is not a very common feature there) I don't think we can call out other people for the same and call it a day. This is more complicated than that, it's not like this is the bad group and the this is the good group. Humans are shit in every part of the world and everyone steals or appropriates the other. It's all about who gets noticed the most.
You.... Do know there are asian who are dark skinned and have double eyelids right...
Sincerely... An asian who is tan and have double eyelids WITHOUT surgery
@James Henry Smith bro wtf are you on??? Go outside and touch grass, my dude
@@yuki97kira they never said that there isn’t tanned Asians with double eyelids they said it wasn’t common
@@everythingisawsome3252 they said its an "appropriation of black culture" and that sounds like there are no asian with double eyelids and tan skinned paired with that context... As if only black people can have tanned skin and double eyelids
double eyelids... are pretty common in east asians though?? im the only one in my direct family with monolids (one out of my four of my grandparents has monolids)
also im the one who stands out more amongst my asian friends because theyre all tan
Ok so listen y'all kpop is made of of black culture and they take alot of inspiration from western media. Now the west is doing the same. Both are benefiting from each other. Its a win win situation for both. Some people in this comment section are saying things like "OH WHEN NO ONE KNEW KPOP THAT TIME WAS THE BEST AND IM SAD THAT KPOP IS GETTING BIG NOW. IT'S NOT THAT INTERESTING ANYMORE". Like sweety don't you want the idols you love to get more exposure and be more successful? And if you loose interest in kpop just because it's getting big now then I'm sorry u weren't a fan in the first place.
Facts
i agree with the whole gatekeeping thing!! the only weird thing for me is to see the same people who whispered and looked at me weird when they saw kpop idols in my photos to asking me for recommendations and all of a sudden interested... is that growth or bandwagoning?? and then i used to say "oh i didnt download these, my cousin who likes kpop did haha" out of nerves lmaooo pain
@@inaaya_1111 listen I can totally get it where you are coming from. I have experienced it also. But now in my opinion kpop is a great way to tell whether someone is your real friend or not. If someone judge or mocks you because of your music taste then that person isn't worthy of your time anyways. If that person is your real friend then obviously they'll gonna respect your likings. And u can confront those people nicely who are asking you for recommendations for kpop and just listen what do they have to say now.
@@neharoy3301 thats so true !! they felt so fake to me when they asked what i listen to sighh like they were even interested in what specific stuff i like after all these years ;( but other than than to look at the positive side im glad to see my favs getting more recognition!! if that means they tour here more often then all the better lol
@@inaaya_1111 good for you. Are u from Canada?
This kpop beauty wave is real because my little sister who's 12 years old started watching kpop and since then she has been saying I wish my nose was a liitle sharper and when I grow up I wanna have double eyelids and she barely goes out cuz she is hooked on the internet, obviously watching kpop reels and stuff on ig, yt etc. I was so shocked when she said that she looked chubby and wanted to lose weight when she is literally not🤣 she adores lisa's body, when I was her age I never bothered about looking like anything but now even I feel pressured to look a certain way🥲
@黒 that’s horrible advice “when she passes puberty she’ll be a Kpop start”….
Well tell her kpop idols are starved and 99 percent of them get plastic surgery to have pretty faces. And take away her phone if she barely goes out like what…
Oh no, that doesn't sound good. I do hope that she's doing okay rn (and you as well)
Please encourage her to just be herself and not copy her idols because that's not healthy. I even heard some rumors (?) that a lot of kpop idols starve themselves just to lose weight.
Please try to get through to her , or tell an adult so they can try. You don't want that obsession to grow
she is going down a scary road, i was the same as her a few years ago and comparing myself to kpop artists ruined my life. i became depressed, self hating, bulimic and anxious. my whole day revolved around my image and how i didn’t look like a kpop idol. i became so unhealthy and was only able to heal with help from others and God. it took a while but now i can appreciate myself without having to look perfect. please encourage her to stop comparing herself to others it’s never going to benefit her.
I'm just sad about all this. Beauty standards is going to continue getting people sick around the world and money can buy anything.
I honestly can't wrap my head around how fast trends can change. There are people out there who ruined their bodies with this "fast fashion" to fit the trends and now, not even 5 years later, BBL and lip fillers aren't "in" anymore.
i think ariana grande is more inspired to japanese aesthetic/style than korean/kpop. i remember she mentioned how she likes the japanese culture. she even got a kanji tattoo. however, its still doesn't change the fact that she's - for the lack of word "do asian fishing" before.
Am I the only Western Kpop fan who doesn't want whole English albums/songs or collabs with western acts?
Far from it. Most of us listen to kpop because we want kpop, not pop or other Americanised musics :)
No, it's actually the reason I'm slowly withdrawing myself from Kpop :/ I'm just not interested in even more Americanized/Westernized bullshit.
Yeah I too have been taking a step back from kpop as it's taking a direction I'm not interested in. I'mstill listening to old music by my bias groups B.A.P, Victon, MX, KNK, NCT etc though...it's just mixed more with jpop/rock more now 😊
@nattmoonlight:3 I mean... yes.
@@JanaBanana96 when the entirety of Kpop is built off of western music:
Kpop is literally western music in Korean. You can’t “westernize” kpop when they literally stole everything from African Americans and western culture. Kpop wouldn’t exist without Western music lmfao
Kpop is 100% completely influenced by Black culture and SM Entertainment literally started their first kpop boy group by copying 90s Hip Hop and R&B and appropriating Black culture, from our hairstyles, to our rap flow, to kpop idols saying the n-word left and right not giving a crap about Black people.... The genre itself was built off of copying Black America and profiting off of it. So yes, kpop is extremely westernized and has been since the start, LONG before Twice and BTS started putting out full english singles. Another observation: it's really disappointing how kpop idols want to appeal to an international audience yet so many of them continue to do blackface, blaccents, saying the n-word, wearing box braids, etc. (the list goes onnnnn!) . If you truly want to gain respect of an International audience, then the very least you can do it respect Black culture, the very culture kpop would be NOTHING without. Really ironic how kpop idols wanna be international yet can't even give respect to the western culture they stole from!
you summed it up so perfectly lol.
a lot of kpop stans like to credit him for being the company or the person who started kpop when all he did was copy black culture and hip hop/ rnb and profit off from it lol, and also not to forget that sm also started the concept of idol slavery.
I was watching a boy group perform one day and it hit me: these folks, more than likely, are getting all of their cues from the social media pages that belong to black content creators. Their Korean choreographers are getting their moves from black TikTok creators and their RUclips videos. Cos, I doubt these choreographers are learning these viral moves from black members of their communities. Their stylists are watching rap videos off of RUclips videos and using these white-owned fashion brands to recreate looks. Their hair stylists are more than likely watching hair tutorials in order to attempt to replicate natural black hairstyles.
And they do alllllllllllll of this, but they cannot find their way to educational RUclips videos about Black history?
Then there's the music. Most of their songs aren't even customed for them. There's a reason why they haven't worked with the likes of Timbaland, The Neptunes, No ID, DJ Premier, Kanye, Boots, etc. It's because those producers want their money and won't accept nickeling and dimes that these labels do.
I wonder if their companies prevent the idols from learning more about Black culture and appropriation in order to prevent them from questioning the cultural exploitation. I wouldn't put it past them, I've read many webcomics by Koreans that show how controlling and abusive those companies tend to be towards trainees and idols
@@Alex-fc8xn It wouldn't surprise me at all.
this this this!!
I remember back in the days it was so special when you met someone who also knows kpop and share your interest with them, but now it's nothing special anymore and you have to be cautious if they even know what they are talking about
Love how you tackle the topics. I like looking like myself. Im not trying to look like nobody but me. Im a black girl and eyes are naturally slanted and a guy was like "with your asain eyes" i rolled them because im not asain and my eyes are just naturally like this.
His reaction killed me when he showed ‘BTS’s darkest days’😂😂😂😂
Also…. Nice shirt bro. It’s pretty dope😂😂❤️❤️
I'm not worried about beauty standards from South Korea making its way to places like the United States. America is way too diverse with people, whose "mother cultures" have their own beauty standards. As an African-American woman, I can definitely say that we're already having our own battles with our own beauty standards (i.e. body acceptance-neutrality, colorism, texturism amongst the natural hair communities, the CROWN Act, 'slim-thicc' versus thin versus fatness versus thicc) to even really focus on Korean beauty standards.
As an American, I will say that like some Asian cultures, thinness and white skin are still considered American beauty standards. Despite being shoved down our collective throats by our media, the majority of American women don't want Kim Kardashian's figure. Or, her sisters' figures (except for Kendall), for that matter. Celebs like Taylor Swift, Jennifer Anniston, Jennifer Lopez (who is not as... bountiful, in person) and other thin celebs are still admired.
the colorism and texturism that is STILL going is sad. Even with Africans vs AA and whole bunch of useless arguments.
i feel like not many people who say they are following this body positivity thing and all bodies are equal and beautiful really are. Many people still see an outfit on a bigger person and are like “yeah no” or they get an applaud nd excessive compliments bc they were so “confident” but it just seems so backhanded. A smaller person will wear the exact same outfit though and many would be like “yesss🤩🤩” get a whole bunch of compliments but then get hate bc they’re trying to show off their ⌛️ figure. Commenters are never happy🙄
I actually really loved the way you presented this, usually I get stressed out on commentary channels but this was so chill
I recognised that K-pop, for example new groups like NewJeans, are getting more and more western and don’t really feel like K-pop anymore
that’s because western markets are more profitable and these companies want to extract as much profit as they can. also new jeans is inevitably going to resemble western culture. their whole genre is rnb in korean, they borrowed elements of American culture so they are inevitably going to resemble western culture. kpop is still a unique thing in america, in that the whole way of doing things in kpop is entirely different from western cultures. Idols are seen as more like dolls than artists , whereas here in the us, artists have full creative control over their music and can do whatever they want, whereas in kpop it’s limited. This is seen in the words that are even used to describe them, idol vs artist. Kpop is still a uniquely Korean thing, and it will always be like that, but when u have a dominating western culture, a capitalist society, and companies that are seeing how profitable western markets are, there’s inevitably going to be a westernization of pop culture around the world. This is not a new phenomenon, you can see this within Japanese citypop in the 1970s and 80s for example, where they borrowed English words for their songs, and their musical style was influenced heavily by western styles. This is not inherently a bad thing, it’s just how humans work. We all copy each other. But trust me, kpop isn’t going anywhere. It’s still something unique to korean culture.
But kpop fashion is just modernized 80s/90s fashion, I don't get it, people want to spin-off a spin-off? Also, anyone can look nineties without looking Korean
Exactly, like i really dont get his complaining, like Kpop stole a lot from american and western culture in general , it's not like Kpop is original or anything.....
ikr
people really act like kpop idols invented shit
when reality is most of them lack individuality
@@khouloudaithsain9215 no, he's complaining about people asian fishing, which people do. People have done asian fishing with the excuse that it's just kpop fashion
Exactly😂
@@trashbug4843 but kpop fashion is mostly just black American fashion. With the oversized clothing, big necklaces, grills on the teeth, etc
Your voice is so calm. I always sing along "Shining through the city with a little fuck and soul".
Thanks for acknowledging K-pop’s roots in hip hop
Totally agree with you on everything, but i just want to say that listening to you is so soothing yet entertaining, the definition of calm chaotic x)
God it's so hard to see whos doing it for clout/money nowadays. In regards to Western and Eastern cultures copying each other, I never thought of it like that, but it does make sense. In the earlier days of kpop, western artists were all over the media and had bigger international fanbases, hence idols started copying them. Now that kpop is all over the media, western celebs are doing the same.
it’s really not hard it’s in your face but y’all just choose to ignore and it needs to stop right now and today and that’s on periodttttttttt ………. !!!!!!!!! 🗣💯
but everything else you said is true and I feel like on both sides they both need to stop copying each other and stop using each other for clout and be more original if it’s not your culture don’t get into it and then disrespect it when your racist I’m talking about every culture and also give credit where credit is due and everyone needs to stop disrespecting people’s races and people need to especially for sure stop blackfishing and stop being racist to black people and stop killing black people especially when you wanna be us and steal and profit our culture and all of our shit we are humans and should be cherished loved and respectful as such and also we are the blueprint and the ogs and the start of everything and even the first people on earth not saying black people aren’t racist but when it comes to black people people are more racist towards us no one was saying oh all lives matters when it was the stop asian hate thing but when it was Black Lives Matters y’all made it into a joke and my race and my people and my culture is not a damn joke at the end of day y’all make these fake ass bitches and racist ass bitches and problematic ass bitches and uneducated ass bitches famous and love to bully the victim and bully people who are real and genuine and real and I’m so done and tired of the shit and it needs to stop right now today stop making bitches famous who clearly don’t deserve and especially if they are fake and racist and uneducated
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Yes I have been into K-pop for 14 years now and I have short red hair hahahah To be honest, I don't like the huge exposure. It doesn't seem genuine ... Before that, it was just us people who were interested and appreciated them for real...
Edit : I don't mean the new fans !!!!! I mean the people who exploit the genre and the fandoms cuz it's trendy without genuinely appreciating or respecting them.
that's gatekeeping. 'I used to have this quirky hobby that other people didn't understand and I was so cool and different but now everyone else likes it boohoo'
And it's not necessarily 'not for real'. For example, I literally had no idea that K-pop existed before 2019-2020. Seriously. I so wish that did... I'm sure I would love it as a teen, but I never heard of it and none of my friends did either. I only discovered it because BTS started blowing up in America and I saw them in that Carpool karaoke episode. Now I'm obsessed and I've been discovering new artists and listening to this music every day for the last 2 years. I'm sure that many new K-pop fans are very genuine, and this new popularity of the genre just helped more people learn about it and appreciate it.
@@ChocolateMuffin308 First, it wasn't cOol then. Second, I didn't mean the new fans so no need to get triggered and ridicule me ! Third, my comment was about exploiting the genre as a trend but not really appreciating it, liking it or "respecting" it. *The huge exposure to NON FANS brought Ignorant judgements, exploitation and disrespect*.
@@ChocolateMuffin308 I agree that newer kpop fans can still be real fans. but I also agree with OP. I have been a kpop fan for about 10 years now, and kpop industry has changed so much in that time. The fanbase has grown ALOT, and changed for the worst. Back in the day, we used to just listen to the music and that was it. But nowadays we got all these fan wars, and Korean fetish people who are trying to look Asian. I swear it didn't used to be like that. So I kinda get what OP is saying, though I have honestly do not have a problem with new fans/celebrities liking Kpop and BTS. They are amazing, how could you not like them? But with the new fanbase comes a lot of terrible shit that wasn't there before. I think a lot of older fans are annoyed because they used to get bullied for liking kpop and the fans used to be a lot more chill before it blew up, and Asian people are annoyed because they used to get made fun of for their features, but now you got celebrities wanna look asian and trying to get in with BTS because it's cool now
Stop gatekeeping
You are forgetting that your beloved Kpop is just a commodification of black culture. You out here sayin' Zendaya took fashion from some random Kpop group...no nigga, they took that from US!! *US, US, US!!!*
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I am reading people's comments and I'm like "The cognitive dissonance in people is a muthafugga!" It's like "How do you think some black K-Pop fans already feel?"
Facts! They always steal our shit!
In terms of fashion trends the west has since probably the 90's getting inspo and adapting emerging trends from Japanese subcultures & street fashion, that later expanded to include Korean and Chinese street style, so it's not a kpop thing specifically.
"Well, I mean, that's what happens when your company gives you the least attention,"
You think you ate?
You did.
Here's your plate.
For me I feel it's a business relationship. Cause kpop been around. So for it to be blown up and now everyone and their roaches are armys and there's kpop collabs every month. I don't know what's real
Your humor is so subtle but like has me dying omg. Thank you for existing
I can’t wait for Stray Kids concert tickets to be opened for purchase! They just anounced the tour dates. Of course LA is a stop :). I can’t wait to see them on stage🥰
The thing about everything with the recent "race fishing" bs is that we can't really even recognise certain races in people. See, as a romani (we originated from south Asia blah blah blah I'm too tired to explain our history) I've been told I look like every race under the rainbow or mixed. I always just said I'm white because yknow. Internalized shit I should probably see a therapist about or tell my current one.
But now that I'm open about this type of shit I get told I'm white because I don't "look" not white.
Not only do I have south Asian features I also have a bit of a darker skin tone that's ashy and typical in those who are POC yet don't go out in the sun much and live in dominatly cold weather without much sunlight.
For one, my eyes have the little slint, I have the little "bags" under them etc
But since those features were taken over by mostly white people, (example: cosplayers use makeup to make those features so they "fit the character more) it's not even recognised as a racial feature and so most people just say "that's not a race" which is so weird to me.
It's erasing so many cultures and ethnicities that's the problem in only recognising some parts of different races. (Example for Asia, if you're not either Japanese, Chinese or Korean you're not even considered Asian to some white people) Its pretty funny too because like, if you look at south asian people, Indian and even Filipino people who post about them being asian you'll see so many comments saying shit like "ur not asian ur Indian/Filipino". I guess its just weird how we came a full circle.
Edit:typo
Yeah ikr. I'm blasian and I constantly get told I'm not Asian enough bc my skin is dark and I have very curly hair and big eyes. It's very frustrating
Idk if it’s a unique experience but if people ever thought you were a foreigner bc of your fluency to a certain language (I’m bilingual by the way,more fluent in English) do you feel complimented or offended??
I guess what "IN"always comes full circle we just have to hold on and continue riding this crazy train called Life The Movie part 2 lol 😅 at the end of the day no one's business but your own
Even if asian consists of many countries like russia and india etc i still dont know why people from japan korea chiana etc are the ony one called asians but we know what he means cuz of these countrie's similar location culture and experience
U probably mostly just genetically white 🤷♀️ the Romani left india centuries ago
this is totally off-topic but you seem like you'd be such a good gentle-hearted friend
I honestly feel conflicted about kpop. I do like the music, but the way the industry treats those idols just makes me sick. Same way I feel about Britney now too.
I don’t understand, why can’t we just appreciate something that isn’t ours without trying to take it over and mold it into an unrecognizable monstrosity? Why are people like this? Appreciate other cultures, learn about them, hell integrate yourself into them if you want, but dont wear them as a skinsuit to “look cool”
5:48 thanks for saying it. i was so shocked once that i heard a latin song but the lyrics were fully korean and sang by a korean group and they were even characterized with common latin clothes...like babes, you've never EVER even came to south america wth is that, but, as usually, they were never called out for profiting from our culture...since for some people out there latin culture only exists during summertime lol - and us latin people, we kinda love being mentioned by foreigner artists... i mean, we were colonized by almost every country out there so it's understandable why we have no self respect for our culture and we find any foreigner artists mentioning our existence and our culture the most fascinating shit ever or whatsoever...but i really wonder if it was the other way around and it was a latin singer using the korean culture to profit...boy oh boy, things would've been WAY different
I know right? They say "ti amO" and don't even pronounce it right and we all get so excited as if it was the best thing in the world :/ it really is sad... and I hate how others get away so easily with profiting Latino culture and it seems like even ourselves don't respect us!
!!!!! It sucks when people say they love hispanics but only when it makes them look good. I bet the company makes them do this shiz for dollars dollars. But even then. It always made conflicted happy sad bc on the one hand yay we were noticed but also. Somehow ignored? I wish I had words right now to put together. Anything not white gets used to whyte ppl till it isnt trendy anymore and it bleeds onto other people too. Idk if I’m making sense but aaaaa.
If I’m being a little crazy sorry. I can’t tell sometimes. I dont hate BTS but I do dislike the machine running the show and all. It’s like a escalator those boys cant leave and nor can the fans I guess. Just up and up. Even if they have to climb those american escalators too.
It is the exact same for Indians. I can understand you. The thing about self respect!! Totally true and these ppl saying shiz they don’t mean 1 percent just to make more money out of our population in getting views n streams!
@@TheOneWifNoUsername I don't get why you mentioned BTS.
@@akunna6338 because the op talking about the Korean group that made a song in Latin style music, ethnic clothes and Latin lyrics ?
Lived in Korea for two years as an English teacher. One of the third graders got plastic surgery because his parents wanted it. It was on his ears. His ears weren’t good enough for his parents.
I dont understand that, even kpop idols have 'flaws' that become their signature look. Nayeon, Jungkook have big front teeth, RM is tan, Suga and his gummy smile, Lee Soo Hyuk and his ears.
If everybody look the same then nobody will get recognition. Hope hes OK.
@@jeanneann3545 being tan isn’t a flaw mate
@@user-tr1qz2yt5e it isnt suppose to, but according to a lot of asian standard it is. wish it wasnt, as a southeast asian.
@@user-tr1qz2yt5e every average Korean person uses so much makeup they look whiter than white people
thank you thank you THANK YOU for bringing up the fact that kpop got a lot from african american music and influences, people like to pretend kpop came up with itself.
I think Kpop has some original culture obviously but it has taken a lot of hip hop and r&b influence too. Kpop itself is not its own original thing and I’d like people to stop acting like it is.
I think culture changes sometimes and has outside influence as it evolves, which is okay to an extent. Traditional culture should be respected and held to high integrity by its people because it’s what makes them unique. I think the biggest problem is trying to look like another race/ethnicity that you are not because that is what is currently popular. It is not okay to wear ethnicity/race like a fast fashion trend. Culture like music and clothing is not a big deal to me, but eye shape and skin color, etc. is just wrong and weird as hell.
I mean usa has been the centre of the media culture for years now with celebs and influencers so I think it's interesting if another country becomes the standard, I just hope, personally, that the kpop beauty standards don't influence people too much, hopefully it's the other way around. One thing I think would be fun tho if it spread to western culture (and it seems like it slowly does) is all these gameshows that kpop idols does :)
@James Henry Smith
Gangnam style was sort of a one time thing for people in 2012, this new fun meme song.. totally different than the massive following big groups have today.
@James Henry Smith
Recently I noticed some clear devil pacts, in newer groups like IVE and AESPA.. IVE just debuted and they have one eye references and Pyramids as soon as the video starts lol. Aespa is full of symbolism... Idk why only recently K-pop made the occult symbolism so much more present when it's been successful worldwide for some time.
I only listen to things I don't see a bad message or occult of any kind. As long as the song doesn't hurt my principles..
Love my daily Ariana Ne-Gu-Yen dose♡
not ne-gu-yen chile🤣🤣🤣
Arigato Nguyen
skskakskk not ne-gu-yen sushhshdh lmaoooo
@@archivez101 that’s Japanese not Korean
@@eman5578 And Nguyen is Korean or Japanese? Bruh.
its annoying how I was made fun of for listening to kpop in 2018 and now just because its popular all of a sudden its cool, like thats just so hypocritical
yall mad at these hollywood celebs, but let's not pretend that k-pop hasn't appropriated any culture.
i mean- i am happy for the kpop groups, soloists and the k-industry since they are obviously benefiting more now from the boom- but i miss when k-pop was considered that 'hiding in your room' hobby and just having a small group of other fans.
Edvasian, I wore your merch in London the other day to promote the Edvasian lifestyle 💪💪
I bought your hoodie and it is literally the most comfortable thing I have put on my body, I never take it off and it’s my new hoodie for when my dysphoria gets bad, thanks bro
When I was in school, I loved JPop and KPop and was teased sooo brutally for it. Now my old school’s cheer team dances to BTS. Amazing.
I just discovered your channel and i cant stop binge watching it, i love your videos!! I cant believe you only have 500k, i thought you'd have at least a couple million. You deserve wayy more!!
white fishing is not even a thing lmao 😭
I haven't even thought of this before! Thanks for this video, it brings in a new perspective
grab your albums and photo cards kids we’re going into hiding 👩👧👦
I literally have your shade of blue bangs and green/blue hair?? 🧚♀️
Once you start dyeing, there is
*no stopping* 🌊🏃🏻♀️
till the day you notice you hair falling off and breaking apart midway. i have half the volume i used to have before. do your hair a favor and stop...or just do you :D
I'm sorry, if Dynamite your favorite song of BTS... you don't know BTS.
Your videos are so dope and in depth… not what folks my age (I finally get to say that…awesome) expect to see these days. You are poppin’.
If we are being honest, ALL of these aesthetics, and even the music, trace back to black folks and black culture. Kpop artists have been “borrowing” (stealing), black aesthetics and our way of living since it’s inception. Western artists are now taking from K-pop bc of its popularity. The entire machine (on both sides), is fueled by black culture. So yea this is really a vicious cycle of taking what is cool and popular and squeezing profit out of it.
Dont forget japanese culture too
And you’re right! Even JYP himself stated that kpop exists because of black culture/music. Black people are the blueprint.
exactly majority of kpop is just black culture with asians.
Thank you!!!
THANK YOU 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Long story about my experience with k-pop in Hungary, and how I became a k-pop stan:
Although I was a casual k-pop listener before 2020, one of my classmates was an army in 2015. She showed me BTS and she was so obsessed with them- actually, she still is. She's quite loyal to them. But back then, she was told that she's weird for obsessing over Asian guys. It wasn't the worst thing though. My classmates back then were really friendly when it came to obsessions, mainly because everyone had one- those guys who told her that she's weird: they collected soccer cards.
I also remember that k-pop, mainly BTS was really popular back then here. It wasn't Dynamite, that got them Hungarian fans. In fact, I heard that they even said they want to come here- which would be amazing btw, I'd go for their concert for sure. But for BTS to acknowledge Hungary- it's an honor for sure, considering the size of this country.
I also remember that I was pretty updated with their MVs. They were huge here, as I said, so I got their MVs as recommended videos on RUclips. I wasn't even an army and I knew 60-70% of their songs back then because of this- and because of various other medias, like television.
I think they got big around the Love Yourself era here. The school radio even played some of their songs, and even though it was 2 years later, I heard Boy With Luv from the school radio first. They actually played it not long after the song came out.
However, BTS couldn't really get me into k-pop for some reason. BP couldn't do this either. But then I decided to watch Tower Of God at the beginning of 2020, because I was into anime for a year now at the time. I liked the opening, so I searched it up, and I was surprised that the group was Korean, because their Japanese was good (I don't know why I found it weird, I actually know now that Bang Chan can speak Japanese). Then in June, one of my friends (who hates k-pop) played God's Menu by Stray Kids in a Discord voice channel. (It's not like I made a screenshot, because he played it 2 days after the song's release, no) I was obsessed and still am obsessed with that song. It was so magical when I first listened to it. I'm not sure why, but I kinda wish I could listen to it again like that. The rabbithole started here for me, and now I'm very much into k-pop, I love the music, because I find it more interesting for the most part.
That's it basically. I can flex with that though- which I often do, I always tell that I know BTS since 2015, because that's true and a lot of people find it amazing :) aaaand it's also a quirk of mine that Stray Kids got me into k-pop :D It's very nice to be a k-pop stan here btw. Everyone is friendly, it's so surprising. There are also a lot of OG stans and stans who aren't OG, but know songs other than Dynamite and Butter. I haven't actually met anyone who said that they stan BTS and only know these two songs from them. Not to mention the amount of stays and atinys here. We can also buy albums quite easily, yes, for 30 USD, but they are there. It's funny, because the last time I went to a store where they have k-pop albums, TXT's albums weren't there- just the space where they were supposed to be, so people probably bought them all.
I actually love Western people when it comes to beauty but when it comes to make up and fashion I really love Asia and most especially Korea because the Korean make up looks so fresh and light that it makes them looked more young and the way the women dress is so feminine, cute and girly. That's what I really love about them.
I remember that 10 yrs ago my friends would laugh that I loved kpop. I still remember my best friend saying not to come with me to a bigbang concert 6 yrs ago,, now she discovered kpop and says is her biggest regret.
it's been a while since i had marketing classes, but i remember that it is true that young people have the most influence over media and economy, it has been like this for a while! very interesting topic to study about lol