Battlefield Bad Company 2 Vietnam - Hill 137 rush attacker

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  • @willfullerton480
    @willfullerton480 10 лет назад +161

    The thing about BC2: Vietnam is that you actually feel afraid when running though the jungle, relieved when you find team mates, angry when you see a team mate gunned down in front of you, and genuinely happy when reviving fallen team mates. I can still remember on Hill 137 when taking a position outside of the caves a group of snipers had my squad pinned and I made a break for it to distract the attackers, I jumped into a trench and found my self with a completely new squad that I didn't even know about. We cleared out the caves, secured the river, and drove the NVA back to their spawn. I dunno why it was just a really fun experience and I guess that's what makes this dlc so good. Team work, squad tactics, and relying on each other to win.

    • @pjanuary1
      @pjanuary1 10 лет назад +25

      If they made a ps4 version of battlefield bad company 2 with this map pack i would buy it in a heart beat.

    • @michaelbread5906
      @michaelbread5906 4 года назад +3

      I always played in hardcore mode. My friend and I would use Russian weapons when we played as vietnamese, and western weapons when we played as the Americans. I loved playing ride of the valkyries and massacaring the enemy team in my tank. God it was glorious.

    • @fadhilahzaidan4946
      @fadhilahzaidan4946 4 года назад +1

      @@pjanuary1 I wish they could also release Bad Company 1 as well.

    • @clockworkNate
      @clockworkNate Год назад

      And not being a cocaine infused speed demon lonewolf that can fly around the map in a wingsuit and call tanks out of the sky? 😂🤮

  • @KidWite
    @KidWite 3 года назад +43

    the best DLC of all time. happens to be attached to the most enjoyable battlefield game of all time

    • @godamgg4478
      @godamgg4478 Год назад

      It’s sad there closing it down

    • @clockworkNate
      @clockworkNate Год назад

      The game that we absolutely deserve a remaster of but instead get the servers shut down soon. Rest in peace battlefield, I'll miss you. Screw the zombie walking around called 2042. 😔

    • @Saviorshock
      @Saviorshock 10 месяцев назад

      still,active,in,proyect,rome@@clockworkNate

  • @yudha1577
    @yudha1577 8 лет назад +74

    10:30 tank driver be like "now this is my jam"

  • @edbo10
    @edbo10 7 лет назад +53

    10:16 lol the tank driver picking the best song for the occasion haha

    • @clay3299
      @clay3299 6 лет назад +2

      lol

    • @TBrizzle01
      @TBrizzle01 5 лет назад +6

      We always picked Fortunate Son.
      God I miss playing music in these games!

    • @edbo10
      @edbo10 Год назад

      @@TBrizzle01 i've got all the radio songs in my car, most of them actually make for really good driving music

    • @seanjenkins4654
      @seanjenkins4654 2 месяца назад

      Tbh with you all the music that’s from jack Ariel and other artists are sick man

  • @TheLukeSoup
    @TheLukeSoup 10 лет назад +255

    DICE seriously needs to make a WWII game or another vietnam game with frostbite 3 graphics

    • @BioAssassin135
      @BioAssassin135 10 лет назад +3

      YES

    • @GuardianStriker
      @GuardianStriker 9 лет назад +1

      They already did. Though not on PC. PS3 and Xbox 360 only.
      Battlefield 1943.

    • @RoupMcgee
      @RoupMcgee 9 лет назад +1

      ***** Yeah but there only 3 maps if I remember correctly. That's not really a full game.

    • @GuardianStriker
      @GuardianStriker 9 лет назад

      Jake Rindfleisch
      Yeah I thought the game was a disappointment too. Though I did have fun playing it.

    • @RoupMcgee
      @RoupMcgee 9 лет назад +1

      It was fun for a time. I hope for a full Battlefield 1942 remake with the new engine and everything.

  • @peKadoDeDioZ
    @peKadoDeDioZ 10 лет назад +121

    best battlefield game EVER, with the best dlc EVER

    • @BioAssassin135
      @BioAssassin135 10 лет назад +2

      Couldn't have said it better

    • @flopperdilly9
      @flopperdilly9 9 лет назад +1

      peKadoDeDioZ Was I the only one who got in a heli just to zoom around playing the radio?

    • @peKadoDeDioZ
      @peKadoDeDioZ 9 лет назад +3

      flopperdilly9 i got in any vehicle to listen to the radio... and tear shit up

    • @flopperdilly9
      @flopperdilly9 9 лет назад

    • @lutalivresarnoso5808
      @lutalivresarnoso5808 6 лет назад

      peKadoDeDioZ damn straight.

  • @mhd9893
    @mhd9893 3 года назад +9

    It's always hard to make a robust case for old games being better without people accusing you of having rose tinted glasses but this really is undeniable. The difference is simply that this game and bf3, even bf1, were made with love and passion, not just to do a job. Once you lose that in any creative pursuit, it's curtains...

    • @clockworkNate
      @clockworkNate Год назад

      Looking back now battlefield 3 was quite a step back in the wrong direction and was the beginning of the end. Destruction didn't even match up at all to Bc2. It was already a shell of what it once was.

  • @blitzi9631
    @blitzi9631 3 года назад +21

    10:22 love how the driver searches for the right jam to go to war lol

  • @crescentator336
    @crescentator336 3 года назад +4

    That guy that would NOT drive the tank without first putting on Fortunate Son is an absolute chad

  • @raisinz6485
    @raisinz6485 8 лет назад +88

    It be awsome if they remastered this game.

  • @alize76ax
    @alize76ax 8 лет назад +74

    damn, I miss this game.

    • @ahmetkoyegitmez5790
      @ahmetkoyegitmez5790 8 лет назад +1

      +King Zay There are maps in Battlefield bad company 2 vietnam few

    • @brendanhickey4959
      @brendanhickey4959 8 лет назад

      +King Zay I miss this with a passion.

    • @markguardiana600
      @markguardiana600 6 лет назад

      Then Play it again. Download on Steam

    • @boeuf-in9oe
      @boeuf-in9oe 5 лет назад

      Too bad nobody plays this anymore. I only found one guy after searching 10 games.

  • @_thisistheater_6126
    @_thisistheater_6126 2 года назад +6

    this was my favorite fps back in the day... so raw.. felt so rewarding. Loved the maps, sounds and music. just an epic game. Cant wait to play it again

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 8 лет назад +79

    Could use more games set in the Vietnam War.

    • @Killerlizzerd97
      @Killerlizzerd97 8 лет назад +1

      lowkey

    • @bigwillienillie1412
      @bigwillienillie1412 8 лет назад +2

      that's wut I been saying

    • @mleo5601
      @mleo5601 8 лет назад +5

      +Kujo Wilson Just have to wait for Rising Storm 2 !! :/

    • @TechnologicallyTechnical
      @TechnologicallyTechnical 8 лет назад

      +*Endo Kraken* Yeah, I'd like a game to have a good singleplayer set in Vietnam with open environments and the Viet Cong popping out of trees, bushes, and trenches. It'd just have to be designed in such a way that the Viet Cong wouldn't have too much of an advantage over the player because otherwise the gameplay would just get tedious and annoying.

    • @kuntuapi7392
      @kuntuapi7392 8 лет назад +1

      I wan't a game game like Spec Ops:The Line set in vietnam, a singleplayer game with a good story and be dark and gritty.

  • @catopwnzify
    @catopwnzify 3 года назад +2

    I can't believe this is 11 years old....this was when gaming was at its peak and i had just discovered BF. I played the first 2 COD games on PC ... COD 4 was awesome but notice it was taking a direction that i knew the game was going to be a thing of the past when it came to S&D on PC. BFBC2:Vietnam and vCoD:United Offensive on PC were some amazing DLC!!!!

  • @mathieupackham5101
    @mathieupackham5101 10 лет назад +43

    People should really make another vietnam war based game with lots of jungle, they always make city war games but never old fashioned vietnam ):

    • @BioAssassin135
      @BioAssassin135 10 лет назад +5

      The Pacific or Nam oh my god they would look beautiful on today's games and with its gritty stylized warfare theyed both be amazing

    • @coreymarcum6194
      @coreymarcum6194 9 лет назад +1

      My great grandfather was an American soldier during the fall of south Vietnam

    • @tomasangulo238
      @tomasangulo238 7 лет назад +1

      Rising Storm 2 Vietnam Boiiiii

    • @DakotaofRaptors
      @DakotaofRaptors 6 лет назад

      Play Rising Storm 2

  • @kobeyashi808
    @kobeyashi808 10 лет назад +15

    i played fortunate son when he was in the tank it was amazing '

  • @Killabreezy14
    @Killabreezy14 12 лет назад +7

    lol the guy in the tank was changing tunes, jus to listen to "Fortunate Son"

  • @mamatloka8786
    @mamatloka8786 10 лет назад +5

    3 things i like from the game.1.sound quality is freaking awesome,2.graphic quality is f*cking awesome,3.gameplay is fucking awesomely awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @EvilAce360
    @EvilAce360 3 года назад +2

    gunna put my two cents of nostalgia here.
    I remember playing BF2 Vietnam on my Xbox 360. before they had any music streaming services on console i had my CD of from Good Morning Vietnam and Forrest Gump burned onto my 360.
    I love the soundtrack already on the game especially the ambience that played from afar from the radios. But hearing extra tunes from my burned soundtracks made this DLC so much more special! I remember on HIll 137 id get me and my friend to get on a gunboat and blast the shit outta the Charlies while listening to "Raindrops keep falling on my head" "Hound Dog" and i believe "Rebel Rouser" as well.
    Shit was so fun to do i remember the Charlies just running and dodging while i was just sitting on the guns laughing as i killed em dead. GOOD TIMES

  • @TheNobleWolf9
    @TheNobleWolf9 6 лет назад +2

    It’s amazing how the graphics still hold up

  • @markguardiana600
    @markguardiana600 6 лет назад +1

    COD Black Ops 1 and BF BC Vietnam has the same addictive level, your fun will not run out, your mind wont forget this two games, Just you and The Game

  • @Hough2006
    @Hough2006 9 лет назад +4

    Miss this BF2BC2 Game... especially this Vietnam expansion... Really wish they would re-release the Battlefield Vietnam game with updated graphics and gameplay...

  • @benm1889
    @benm1889 8 лет назад +1

    Still play this! Surprisingly enough, there's still quite a few people still on this!

  • @Tramseskumbanan
    @Tramseskumbanan 5 лет назад +5

    I really love BC2 Vietnam. Sadly there are so few players nowadays.

    • @juancarlosrodriguezperez1737
      @juancarlosrodriguezperez1737 5 лет назад +1

      Tramseskumbanan Im still playing bc2 vietnam on ps3 and pc 💪🏻

    • @griff6474
      @griff6474 5 лет назад

      on steam there are still enough people who play it frequently. during the weekends you'll have no problem finding a game

  • @alwinybanez100
    @alwinybanez100 9 лет назад +9

    I like the music intro its awesome.....

  • @paulboody9144
    @paulboody9144 10 лет назад +6

    Whenever I play this I can't help to not think about Apocalypse Now

  • @hourz
    @hourz 2 года назад +1

    This aged well.

  • @swiftsmile
    @swiftsmile 7 лет назад

    this may be different from the real thing by a mile, but the main point of it, just waking up in the morning in Vietnam, not knowing if your going to die that day or if your going to die tomorrow or another day. And just going up a hill not knowing whats up there, just knowing that you have to climb it, that would be incredibly scary

  • @Machinedead
    @Machinedead 7 лет назад +2

    'Bad Company 3: Vietnam: Second Tour' now!

  • @elcookiemonster335
    @elcookiemonster335 8 лет назад +10

    They should remake this game for the newer console

    • @doublxhelix5014
      @doublxhelix5014 8 лет назад +2

      Ralph Rivera they have bc2 on Xbox one backwards compatibility

  • @gaeybwoii
    @gaeybwoii 6 лет назад +3

    So many hours spent playing this expansion ❤️

  • @JelliThePilot
    @JelliThePilot 8 лет назад +11

    That first 1:30 seconds would be so badass with some radio chatter. *Airstrike* "Roger that alpha squad, payload is inbound. ETA 10 Seconds." *Gunshots in the distance* "This is Zulu squad! Taking enemy fire! Need-" *Radio goes dead*

    • @logan.lambert796
      @logan.lambert796 8 лет назад

      Or have a base where you could get ammo and health and the radio is there songs and radio chatter ugh too bad we're stuck with this futuristic crap

    • @PyroShark_
      @PyroShark_ 8 лет назад

      +Logan Lambert the new battlefield is the saving grace for them, while cod fucks up with future crap battlefield is capitalizing on how no one wants future anymore

    • @logan.lambert796
      @logan.lambert796 8 лет назад

      +matt leppen I know

  • @frankpastrana602
    @frankpastrana602 8 лет назад +5

    the smoothest graphic engine or system, DICE did all wrong with bf3 and bf4 , i hope some new bad company just focused on vietnam war , it would be nice from the vietcong perspective.

    • @skl4189
      @skl4189 8 лет назад +2

      Frank Pastrana I would like a new battlefield Vietnam game as well but I also think it would be cool if they did something like battlefield 1951 set in the Korean war

  • @zaqpak9391
    @zaqpak9391 7 лет назад

    I think this map was based of Hill 937 or most commonly known as "Hamburger Hill" , I know this because on the intro for this map on one of the game modes the commentator on the radio says "U.S Army regulars will assault Hamburger Hill" or something like that. Btw nice video and I loved that game to bits :D on PC and on PS3

    • @ernestov1777
      @ernestov1777 7 лет назад

      Zaqpak Yes this map is based on Hamburger Hill were the US lost in fact when you win as a northvietnamese the announcer says. "An american troop was destroyed today by NorthVietnamese regular soldiers,the american soldiers who survived called this hill Hamburger hill for the Slaughter and Massacre that took place there" or something like that.

  • @AlfLuck99
    @AlfLuck99 8 лет назад

    memories on this map I loved hearing the F4-Phantoms flying past and the map

  • @albumreviewsandsuch9994
    @albumreviewsandsuch9994 6 лет назад +1

    one of my all time favorite bits of dlc... sucks they didnt add the option to unlock alot more guns or alot more maps,but what it had was still great....

  • @danielramos6893
    @danielramos6893 7 лет назад

    "But I wanna paint my gun red. Where's all the fancy customization." Lol!
    Good gameplay. That's ALL that matters!

  • @howardfortyfive9676
    @howardfortyfive9676 8 лет назад

    Pretty neato! Tough game, *everything in landscape is different shades of the same damn color!!!*

  • @religionfueledwarmachine1687
    @religionfueledwarmachine1687 6 лет назад +1

    The Vietnam War is a very controversial subject but shit we need more games set in FUCKING JUNGLE WARS OF 1965!!!!

  • @bingoperroso
    @bingoperroso 8 лет назад +13

    Those graphics... And the game is 5 years old, still better than COD

  • @jasongalloway2161
    @jasongalloway2161 Год назад

    I wish i got to play this game back in its prime, missed out on so many good games back then

  • @nothingmore5769
    @nothingmore5769 6 лет назад +1

    Now this is the Battlefield I want.

  • @KarlMarklund
    @KarlMarklund  14 лет назад

    @NastyPejorative I think leogets was referring to the bug that sometimes say that you lost, even tho you won a match (not this match since, as you said, we ran out of tickets). I think he meant in general, or atleast I think that's how I understood it 2 months ago :)

  • @travisbickle7508
    @travisbickle7508 7 лет назад

    This was such a meat grinder. I can't imagine what those boys went through in real life.

  • @MrLeedo1992
    @MrLeedo1992 7 лет назад

    The sounds of this game was awsome, even better than the others in today

  • @BooqieHD
    @BooqieHD 11 лет назад

    I liked your gameplay! You earned a sub!

  • @KarlMarklund
    @KarlMarklund  13 лет назад

    @90abcde6 There are now visual healthbars but you have a certain amount of hp. In "standard" mode you have regenerating hp if you avoid getting shot once taking damage, in hardcore mode you have to get a medic too heal you. In hardcore mode bullets do more damage.

  • @imSkrap
    @imSkrap 2 года назад

    Man I was 10 years old playing this back then and it’s insane to think back that I was literally dropping 70-100 kills per game as a fucking 10 year old on my uncles PC where we shared an account to play this game on and we would take turns playing while the other watched and we both would laugh and bond like crazy… I miss these times honestly

  • @Warfan-sg7pu
    @Warfan-sg7pu 8 лет назад

    If Verdun Heights is anything like this in battlefield 1, than we're in for a treat!

    • @Killerlizzerd97
      @Killerlizzerd97 8 лет назад

      Warfan2001 I see what you did there 😎 true fact, and hopefully too.

  • @Michael20
    @Michael20 5 лет назад +1

    man i loved this map. i would always put mines for the tanks rushing b

  • @Mocha0707
    @Mocha0707 10 лет назад +1

    Here is an answer there are a lot of people play it on PC I purchase the game on steam and I always got 3 or 4 room with full pack of player 32/32 if u wanna play please download it and join us don't wait no more thank

  • @marianmoesinger3825
    @marianmoesinger3825 4 года назад +2

    They need to just release this as BF6.

  • @StevePTFOx49
    @StevePTFOx49 4 года назад

    This was my favorite Battlefield game

  • @KarlMarklund
    @KarlMarklund  14 лет назад

    @leogets2006 Yeah, that is still bugging out every now and then. Even in vanilla BC2

  • @OggaDugga
    @OggaDugga 7 лет назад +1

    Still the best expansion they made since this release.

  • @Jorgnesau
    @Jorgnesau 3 месяца назад

    14:25 such cinematic moment, damn i miss playing this game

  • @kunven
    @kunven 14 лет назад

    now i understand why the us army call the m79 thumper or burp gun

  • @PyroShark_
    @PyroShark_ 8 лет назад +6

    Who likes my profile picture? :D
    its a soldier sitting on the 152mm barrel of a KV-2

  • @DanCThorpe
    @DanCThorpe 9 лет назад

    Just got this recently for Xbox. Shame I didn't get it back in the day. Servers are empty, best BF I've played though. Great game.

  • @captainazrale4404
    @captainazrale4404 7 лет назад

    3:37 Did an us soldier just shout "Bunch o' commies!" in the distance?

  • @Wesley-km8kb
    @Wesley-km8kb 4 года назад

    I mostly enjoyed playing the Vietnam mode. It was fun as hell.

  • @jamielama7716
    @jamielama7716 6 месяцев назад

    Its a shame not many people played this conpared to the main multiplayer.

  • @theducksauce4851
    @theducksauce4851 2 года назад

    Ah its so good to see it again.

  • @354sd
    @354sd 8 лет назад +1

    I really miss this game

    • @MrMaxer13
      @MrMaxer13 8 лет назад

      Then buy it and play it. I played it today on PC.

  • @NJA2k8
    @NJA2k8 7 лет назад

    I just watched a handful of enemies walk up to your teammates and take them out with a flamethrower at the first base, second MCOM

  • @JoeSmith-gp5dm
    @JoeSmith-gp5dm 10 лет назад

    Battlefield bad company two is hands down the best battlefield ever besides battlefield 1943, it's such a bummer that nobody plays this game anymore. They need to make bad company three asap.

  • @briancain9007
    @briancain9007 4 года назад

    I miss seeing full servers I really hope EA makes another Vietnam game

  • @ciguret
    @ciguret 8 лет назад +1

    its on xbox one backwards compatibility

  • @Robodogggg
    @Robodogggg Месяц назад

    Good old times when Battlefield didn't played as fast as CoD.

  • @prylosecorsomething3194
    @prylosecorsomething3194 4 года назад +1

    I miss this

  • @alchyblue8031
    @alchyblue8031 9 лет назад

    This right here is the best thing that ever came out of dice they really need to turn this into a full retail or at least work on bfbc3

  • @hmongFBI
    @hmongFBI 9 лет назад

    bought battlefield bad company 2 with all DLC solely for Vietnam but when I got home I realized all the DLC and everything had expired the day before :(

    • @Jeidjeneudejendu
      @Jeidjeneudejendu 9 лет назад

      I got an "Ultimate Edition" only to find out it expired 4 years ago.

  • @KarlMarklund
    @KarlMarklund  14 лет назад

    @TheJudgeJesus Thanks

  • @NastyPejorative
    @NastyPejorative 14 лет назад

    What are you guys talking about? I haven't played these games, so I might be wrong, but it certainly looked like you lost at the end when you ran out of tickets.

  • @_.9S._
    @_.9S._ 6 лет назад

    They were in the trees man!

  • @FightCain
    @FightCain 11 лет назад

    Do you think camping is more n00b playstyle or more awared playstyle? What do you think? I think its more awared playstyle.

  • @SunnyFLBoy
    @SunnyFLBoy 8 лет назад

    I miss the flamethrower.

  • @emmanueldelacruz2937
    @emmanueldelacruz2937 10 лет назад

    I know this is a repetitive question but I'm wondering if people still play this on 360? I wanna get back into it but the times I play, there's usually not many :/

    • @rednovember2205
      @rednovember2205 9 лет назад +1

      Not really, kinda dead now.

    • @SUP3R360
      @SUP3R360 9 лет назад

      +The Privileged Capitalist people play from time to time couple times they'll be a full match

  • @FlamuriHp
    @FlamuriHp 8 лет назад +2

    we need another BAttlefield vietnam..... I heard BAttlefield 5 will be WW2

    • @nickricciardi6120
      @nickricciardi6120 8 лет назад

      +Mr Willis WW1 not WW2

    • @FlamuriHp
      @FlamuriHp 8 лет назад +1

      John Cena boy , ww2 and ww1 for DLC

    • @nickricciardi6120
      @nickricciardi6120 8 лет назад

      Mr Willis
      where did you learn this?

    • @FlamuriHp
      @FlamuriHp 8 лет назад

      John Cena Bfbc2 easter eggs

    • @holly5234
      @holly5234 8 лет назад

      What easter easter eggs?(show pictures)
      and how do you know it will be WW2

  • @cerberus305
    @cerberus305 2 года назад +2

    BRING THIS BACK, MAKE BATTLEFIELD GREAT AGAIN!!!

  • @bobbiikk7891
    @bobbiikk7891 8 лет назад +1

    Ah the memories.

  • @KarlMarklund
    @KarlMarklund  14 лет назад +1

    @DrNeo420 it is really fun

  • @peterpiper0002
    @peterpiper0002 10 лет назад

    I.just bought it 5 minutes ago and Its Not working it says "unable to connect to EA server"

  • @Danny-pq2vy
    @Danny-pq2vy 7 лет назад

    the good old times i miss it

  • @lucaskjlby565
    @lucaskjlby565 3 года назад +2

    REMASTER!!!!!!!

    • @skrrra7619
      @skrrra7619 3 года назад

      They need to remaster bad company 1 first,then this.

  • @MrCoolvideos6
    @MrCoolvideos6 9 лет назад

    in this vietnam expansion does there come the m16? can you play it in the vanilla game?in the normal maps multiplayer

  • @sonottiny
    @sonottiny 5 месяцев назад +1

    God I miss this

  • @RodriReis01
    @RodriReis01 5 лет назад

    Que saudade desse grande jogo, dessa ótima dlc. Pena que ninguém mais joga.

  • @Lawizardofnoz
    @Lawizardofnoz 6 месяцев назад

    The good old days.

  • @OddityStudios
    @OddityStudios 10 месяцев назад

    BRING THIS GAME BACK 🙏

  • @alexperez85
    @alexperez85 6 лет назад

    the hey days of BF is gone.. RIP

  • @WaveOne11
    @WaveOne11 10 лет назад

    Nice gameplay.. WHY didnt you push at all at the end??? Makes no sense

    • @WaveOne11
      @WaveOne11 8 лет назад

      still don't have a clue??? :D

  • @degamegang8262
    @degamegang8262 6 лет назад

    I have a pc can you play it with a xbox controller ?

  • @dr-mir
    @dr-mir 7 лет назад +2

    I love this game

  • @THEsunnyinpa
    @THEsunnyinpa 9 лет назад +1

    The fucking sound mixing!!!

  • @DEADjo10
    @DEADjo10 11 лет назад

    I traded my 4 Vintage hats for this DLC when it was released,, best trade ever

  • @hibbztherealist747
    @hibbztherealist747 6 лет назад +1

    What a game this was💙💙

  • @serdarhyo5561
    @serdarhyo5561 3 года назад

    Hardcore mood best in this game 🥰

  • @brianan7179
    @brianan7179 7 лет назад

    why are the vc using flamethrower?

  • @XxthebladexXx
    @XxthebladexXx 10 лет назад +1

    I'm sorry, i never played bad company or vietnam but why isn't there a radar?

    • @dantedavis21
      @dantedavis21 10 лет назад

      Hardcore

    • @officaljoey
      @officaljoey 7 лет назад +1

      The game mode is set on hardcore meaning enemy's die realisticly and there's no radar