0:15 People complain about the price of good patch cables but, in actual fact, it is the connectors at the two ends that make up for most of the cost (for usual lengths found in home audio or even in studio systems).
Before you twist the copper ground strands together , separate them in two bunches. Twist them together once so that you have a twisted section next to the rubber and two groups of strands. Then tin them where they're twisted. Then you can cut one bunch off and have a smaller lead to solder.
Great video and solid tutorial. To me, it still seems like a good amount of work to get the cables for half price or so. I do think it would be worth it to build your own, if not for the lifetime warranty when you pay retail. That kind of justifies the price premium to me; knowing it's the last instance of this cable I'll ever buy. But if looking to save some money in the short term, this is a great option.
Definitely easier to buy premade if it’s 1-2 cables but you need need 15-20 cables, the cost adds up! The difference could be $2,000 vs $400 and 1 day of soldering
It *might* be hard to justify over buying World's Best Cables that use Mogami cable and the same ends for 10-15 dollars more or whatever they go for. I don't yet own any quality cables, but planning to upgrade soon. I'd have to buy all the soldering equipment and cable cutters, so WBC would probably be more cost effective for me -- though I don't yet know if there are any tradeoffs/caveats with WBC.
The sliver Neutrik TRS plugs are a lot easier to work with. Your leads are so long you can't bend the plug ears, onto the outside jacket of the cable. With the silver plugs, you could. Also, the leads on the silver plugs are side by side instead of stacked.
@@Semyon_Music The plug itself on the silver is chromed, so I don't think it will tarnish. The body probably will over time, but you can put heat shrink over the whole plug if that's a concern.
Great and helpful video. Your life could be made easier by 1 or 2 “Helping Hands” they sell for $5 each at Harbor Freight - nothing fancy just to hold wires. Thanks, buddy!
Where are you buying the wires and connectors from? Are you buying them in bulk? I have some TRS snakes that are a little short for my new setup and thinking of doing this, but, the materials are more expensive than I expected. For the gold TRS connectors, I'm not finding anywhere to buy them in bulk and they start at ~$9.50 CAD each.
Also, I'm looking to make a variety of cables within 4.5ft-6ft in length. Have you made cables around this length before? I'm wondering if going for the W2534 Neglex Quad is a little overkill for my use case.
I use mogami cable at work and it sounds like my sound level drop down compared to whirlwind. The mogami has lower level out compared to whirlwind so I need to crank up gain when using it. I don't know if thats the reason it is a silent cable.
I make about 5ft length cable. I haven't check the cable of whirlwind but the mogami is little bit less flexible and has thick size copper too. I have the balanced and mono cables. I tried to use balance cable for instrument cables but still the same issue.
Hi, i got the cable you mentioned. The cable has writing on it that says "NEGLEX 2534 MICROPHONE CABLE", is this going to cause any problems using it at line levels instead of mic levels? Can i use it in a guitar rig?
For those who asked, the XLR version of this video is out now! → ruclips.net/video/nL063d-J__o/видео.html
0:15 People complain about the price of good patch cables but, in actual fact, it is the connectors at the two ends that make up for most of the cost (for usual lengths found in home audio or even in studio systems).
Very true!
Can you please make another how to make video but this time an with xlr cables. This video was awesome and clear!
That’s a great idea! If I get enough comments to make an XLR video, then for sure!
Just released the XLR cable video! → ruclips.net/video/nL063d-J__o/видео.html
This was extremely helpful. I am ordering my kit today.
Glad the video was helpful!
Before you twist the copper ground strands together , separate them in two bunches. Twist them together once so that you have a twisted section next to the rubber and two groups of strands. Then tin them where they're twisted. Then you can cut one bunch off and have a smaller lead to solder.
Thanks for the tip!
this was helpful. thank you
Thanks!
Very well explained step by step Semyon! Any chance you show how to make a RCA mogami cable?
Thanks a lot.
Best,
Peter
Maybe in the future! RCA is not a type of cable I typically use. I only use XLR, TRS and TS cables at the moment
nice video
Thanks!
Great video and solid tutorial. To me, it still seems like a good amount of work to get the cables for half price or so. I do think it would be worth it to build your own, if not for the lifetime warranty when you pay retail. That kind of justifies the price premium to me; knowing it's the last instance of this cable I'll ever buy. But if looking to save some money in the short term, this is a great option.
Definitely easier to buy premade if it’s 1-2 cables but you need need 15-20 cables, the cost adds up! The difference could be $2,000 vs $400 and 1 day of soldering
@@Semyon_Music I agree. If you are building a studio, then retail is not feasible.
@@PurpleMusicProductions 100%
It *might* be hard to justify over buying World's Best Cables that use Mogami cable and the same ends for 10-15 dollars more or whatever they go for. I don't yet own any quality cables, but planning to upgrade soon.
I'd have to buy all the soldering equipment and cable cutters, so WBC would probably be more cost effective for me -- though I don't yet know if there are any tradeoffs/caveats with WBC.
The sliver Neutrik TRS plugs are a lot easier to work with. Your leads are so long you can't bend the plug ears, onto the outside jacket of the cable. With the silver plugs, you could. Also, the leads on the silver plugs are side by side instead of stacked.
Interesting! Any difference between silver and gold in terms of longevity? I heard silver can tarnish/corrode over time whereas gold will stay put.
@@Semyon_Music The plug itself on the silver is chromed, so I don't think it will tarnish. The body probably will over time, but you can put heat shrink over the whole plug if that's a concern.
I’ll have to check out the silver ones in the future if the connections are easier to work with!
Hey, where do you like to order your cable, and connectors in Canada?
I order all my cables and connectors from Studio Economik, they're based in Montreal but ship Canada wide
Please do a tutorial for an xlr cable.
Video coming soon!
Just released a video for XLR cables! → ruclips.net/video/nL063d-J__o/видео.html
I'm curious as to why you're using four core cable instead of dual core cable.
It’s prevents unwanted radio interference from getting into the audio path during longer cable runs
Great and helpful video. Your life could be made easier by 1 or 2 “Helping Hands” they sell for $5 each at Harbor Freight - nothing fancy just to hold wires. Thanks, buddy!
Thanks! I tried some helping hands before but they were flimsy. Send me the link for the ones you use
great video but post the the website to order the cable and the connectors
Thanks! And there are links in the description!
@@Semyon_Music mi bad i just found the link,thank you
Where are you buying the wires and connectors from? Are you buying them in bulk? I have some TRS snakes that are a little short for my new setup and thinking of doing this, but, the materials are more expensive than I expected. For the gold TRS connectors, I'm not finding anywhere to buy them in bulk and they start at ~$9.50 CAD each.
Also, I'm looking to make a variety of cables within 4.5ft-6ft in length. Have you made cables around this length before? I'm wondering if going for the W2534 Neglex Quad is a little overkill for my use case.
In Canada, Studio Economik is a great place. Ask for Nicolas and he can give you a good deal for bulk orders
What is maximum length for trs to xlr cable for no signal change? Thanks
You could easily go up to 30 feet or longer with no signal loss with these cables
0:36 I don't believe you. If you had made it yourself, it would have a sleeve with "myself" written on it.
Haha 😂 Gotta get those custom sleeves
Where can I get Mogami Gold cable (unterminated)?
There’s a link in the description of the video!
I use mogami cable at work and it sounds like my sound level drop down compared to whirlwind. The mogami has lower level out compared to whirlwind so I need to crank up gain when using it. I don't know if thats the reason it is a silent cable.
Check if the cable is the correct type! That could be the issue
is the length the same?
Alternatively, it can be a thicker conductor in the whirlwind and less intrinsic loss.
What is the length of the cable you’re using and what type of mogami cable is it?
I make about 5ft length cable. I haven't check the cable of whirlwind but the mogami is little bit less flexible and has thick size copper too. I have the balanced and mono cables. I tried to use balance cable for instrument cables but still the same issue.
@@mirarzaamplification902 check if you have a ground loop issue potentially or not the right impedance set for the instrument
Hi, i got the cable you mentioned. The cable has writing on it that says "NEGLEX 2534 MICROPHONE CABLE", is this going to cause any problems using it at line levels instead of mic levels? Can i use it in a guitar rig?
Should be completely fine for line level. If you plan on using it as a guitar cable, mogami makes other makes suitable for specifically
@@Semyon_Music awesome, thank you!
@Eric-pz6mo have fun with the cable making adventures!
Lets do xlr cables please
If I get a few more requests for a xlr video, then for sure!
Ok great
Just released a video for XLR cables! → ruclips.net/video/nL063d-J__o/видео.html
What’s DYI?
DIY = Do It Yourself
@@Semyon_Music Cool, in the UK we call that DIY. 🤷🏻♂️
Nice vid anyway. Thanks.
@TeleTonemonkey it’s DIY here as well! Just a typo in the thumbnail!
Do Yourself In? 🤣
@jasonwojcik 😂😂
This isn’t helpful hot cold what? just say tip ring sleeve
It helps translate the terminology to wiring XLR wires
Too much yapping