Very solid comparison of a top quality boat and a competing brand. The importance of reverse chine and variable dead rise to your comfort and safety in rough water cannot be overstated. Todays heavy-gauge welded aluminum boats ride every bit a softly as a fiberglass boat and do so with less weight and more fuel efficiency. Remember that the water doesn’t care what your hull material is. Hull shape is everything and Renaissance Marine Group has the rest of the aluminum boat industry in a distant second place.
This is what I'm looking for, sleep six, five meters of room to fish from and a walk in wet room and separate toilet and able to walk around the bow, now that's a boat I would buy.
Lets name the shady salesman tricks used in this video: 1) boat for sale under the false pretenses of “teaching you something” 2) put an inferior product visible for comparison to make the target more appealing 3) time pressure, “limited time sale of prior years inventory” 4) points out a couple of boat features without explaining the downsides, ie. Hull will need repainting every two years. Also, this hull design is slower and less efficient. 5) several misnomers about buoyancy and boat design characteristics are mentioned here, and he sure likes to try to use fancy boat terminology to impress the buyer 6) excessive talking and avoiding showing the key parts of the boat, for example the cockpit area and aboard the boat on the bow and stern, motor model, capacities, speed, load capacity, and range. Let me give you some advice bud. The customer nowadays just wants honesty. Show us the boat, operate everything on it, take the time to film it out of and on the water, extensively putting it through every step of it’s paces and show the capabilities. Show how to untrailer/trailer the boat as well as taking it in/out of the water. Give a fair, no haggle, out the door price, and do not keep it secret. You’ll have better luck selling your boats. The ‘legacy’ sales techniques are very off putting to current consumers. And don’t give lame excuses for why you can’t or won’t put forth the time and effort to show your boat correctly, without the excessive talking fluff, and on the water also. Above all, stop talking so much, and don’t show your face, show the boat.
Correct me if i am wrong Honestly i thought salt water is a big No No for aluminum boat of any kind? I am on the market for offshore boat with pilot house, hard to find one especially with catamaran hull design, desperate lately for 1 on fiberglass and this vis is open my eye for more selection for long term investment if it true. Thank you
Anodes. Up the west coast aluminum is the way to go for rocks and shore landing etc. the cooler temps don’t cause the same oxidization as in say Florida. In Alaska 80% of the boats are aluminum. Fiberglass doesn’t like the cold.
We also flush and my motor had a reverse flush using a hose so I can flush at the docks and boat ramps. And we also run them through a lake after going in salt.
Depends on the severity of the damage. If you have pitting from winter roads it is going to be very difficult. If not their are some aluminum cleaners that work pretty good check with your local marine dealer.
@@ValleyMarine1 Are there a lot of aluminum "offshore" boats being trailered around on "winter roads" or is that just your standard "explanation" for why a boat "trailered" for the "winter" after being in saltwater all "summer" looks so "flaky" come the following "Spring" when the owner gets a good look at it "high and dry" and the reality of aluminum vs. saltwater becomes most visible? That being aluminum LOSES big-time.
Both Thunder Jet and Duckworth...owned by Rennaissance Marine THUGS, and the reason for the paint is the auto-body-filler (aka BONDO) that resides under that paint!!! You're paying $30k to $50k more for JUNK than if you bought a Parker (fiberglass) or $10k more than if you bought a Hewes (aluminum)...and I'm here to tell you, I've seen SEVERAL of the 8-wide Duckworth boats that one fat woman leaning over to 'get her fish in' looked like the boat was listing 30-degrees! I've never seen an aluminum 'off-shore' boat list like a Duckworth IN MY LIFE!!! So, sell it for what you want, but Duckworth is 'engineered for maximum mafia profit-taking', not for maritime use!
Very solid comparison of a top quality boat and a competing brand. The importance of reverse chine and variable dead rise to your comfort and safety in rough water cannot be overstated. Todays heavy-gauge welded aluminum boats ride every bit a softly as a fiberglass boat and do so with less weight and more fuel efficiency. Remember that the water doesn’t care what your hull material is. Hull shape is everything and Renaissance Marine Group has the rest of the aluminum boat industry in a distant second place.
This is what I'm looking for, sleep six, five meters of room to fish from and a walk in wet room and separate toilet and able to walk around the bow, now that's a boat I would buy.
Looked like 2 rock solid boats to me.
Lets name the shady salesman tricks used in this video:
1) boat for sale under the false pretenses of “teaching you something”
2) put an inferior product visible for comparison to make the target more appealing
3) time pressure, “limited time sale of prior years inventory”
4) points out a couple of boat features without explaining the downsides, ie. Hull will need repainting every two years. Also, this hull design is slower and less efficient.
5) several misnomers about buoyancy and boat design characteristics are mentioned here, and he sure likes to try to use fancy boat terminology to impress the buyer
6) excessive talking and avoiding showing the key parts of the boat, for example the cockpit area and aboard the boat on the bow and stern, motor model, capacities, speed, load capacity, and range.
Let me give you some advice bud. The customer nowadays just wants honesty. Show us the boat, operate everything on it, take the time to film it out of and on the water, extensively putting it through every step of it’s paces and show the capabilities. Show how to untrailer/trailer the boat as well as taking it in/out of the water. Give a fair, no haggle, out the door price, and do not keep it secret. You’ll have better luck selling your boats. The ‘legacy’ sales techniques are very off putting to current consumers. And don’t give lame excuses for why you can’t or won’t put forth the time and effort to show your boat correctly, without the excessive talking fluff, and on the water also. Above all, stop talking so much, and don’t show your face, show the boat.
Truth, the boat buyer is usually a lot more informed than your typical car lot buyer.
yup..
Is there any honesty here...really? Is Hewescraft REALLY that much better or are you folks just hating on Renaissance...
Do you guys sell them in USA ? What's the price ? Should show the cab inside
Sou apaixonado por esses modelos de barcos, é um grande avanço no mundo náutico. Gostaria muito de ter a oportunidade de possuir um desses um dia.
Sure, but is the difference worth 150k extra?
I'd have to tell you but an unpainted aluminium boat is easier to maintain than a painted by a long shot.
Fabian Sosa Unpainted boats gather hitchhikers in salt water.
In saltwater? That's funny shit.
Thunderjet is the way to go compare Apple apples now definitely aluminum is way easier upkeep and it looks better 20 years versus paint
Don't know much about boats, but I know always go for the red model - no matter if it is cars, boats or anything else - red is just the best.
I’m just lurking trying to learn
why are these boats not available on the east coast of USA?
From my understanding most of these types of aluminum boats are manufactured on the west coats, primarily OR and WA.
Because F the East coast
i need the off shore for the lake turkana which is a salt lake
What are the top 10 brands of aluminum pilot house boats?
But fibreglass are the best riding there so soft smoother swift fiberglass there a joy
Not even close to correct. The ride has nothing to do with the hull material and EVERYTHING to do with the shape of the hull.
Not hating, just a statement to give advice, but the fiberglass boats (Nordic Tug, etc) can be heavily damaged in rough swells.
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Did anyone ever tell you that you sound like Joe Rogan?
Correct me if i am wrong
Honestly i thought salt water is a big No No for aluminum boat of any kind?
I am on the market for offshore boat with pilot house, hard to find one especially with catamaran hull design, desperate lately for 1 on fiberglass and this vis is open my eye for more selection for long term investment if it true.
Thank you
Anodes. Up the west coast aluminum is the way to go for rocks and shore landing etc. the cooler temps don’t cause the same oxidization as in say Florida. In Alaska 80% of the boats are aluminum. Fiberglass doesn’t like the cold.
We also flush and my motor had a reverse flush using a hose so I can flush at the docks and boat ramps. And we also run them through a lake after going in salt.
How much for that boat and can you keep them in the salt water without problems
Stephen VanDyke that would be around 150 k
How much
"Front of the boat"= BOW,for example...dunderhead.
Think this Boat would not be good in salt water. It would tun into junk very soon. Warning.
Adding all that extra length, width and weight "improves buoyancy"? Hmm.
It sure does. How would that extra space not add buoyancy?
Dallas Fields because he doesn't understand how displacement works
Any tips on cleaning the outside bare aluminum?
Depends on the severity of the damage. If you have pitting from winter roads it is going to be very difficult. If not their are some aluminum cleaners that work pretty good check with your local marine dealer.
@@ValleyMarine1 Are there a lot of aluminum "offshore" boats being trailered around on "winter roads" or is that just your standard "explanation" for why a boat "trailered" for the "winter" after being in saltwater all "summer" looks so "flaky" come the following "Spring" when the owner gets a good look at it "high and dry" and the reality of aluminum vs. saltwater becomes most visible? That being aluminum LOSES big-time.
Do you carry Oquawka Boats?
We do not carry that specific brand you are looking for. As far as heavy gauge aluminum boats, we sell Duckworth, Weldcraft & NorthRiver
Both Thunder Jet and Duckworth...owned by Rennaissance Marine THUGS, and the reason for the paint is the auto-body-filler (aka BONDO) that resides under that paint!!! You're paying $30k to $50k more for JUNK than if you bought a Parker (fiberglass) or $10k more than if you bought a Hewes (aluminum)...and I'm here to tell you, I've seen SEVERAL of the 8-wide Duckworth boats that one fat woman leaning over to 'get her fish in' looked like the boat was listing 30-degrees! I've never seen an aluminum 'off-shore' boat list like a Duckworth IN MY LIFE!!! So, sell it for what you want, but Duckworth is 'engineered for maximum mafia profit-taking', not for maritime use!
So what brand should I look for in aluminum pilot house offshore boats?
@@captainmigs1655 Kingfisher
New vs used. Duh!
Kingfisher 2525 offshore is still a better boat
More money too, though, right?
These boats wouldn't hold up to the pounding that they would receive here in the North Atlantic, they would be dented from stem to stern !!
1armedguy You're kidding right? The Atlantic is a lake compared to the Pacific.
HuskyKMA fav
1armedguy are you autistic the pacific is twice the size of the Atlantic I bet you would shit yourself if you went offshore here
Wasn't it specifically named the 'Pacific' for its lack of roughness?
@@comancheclub3449 that makes zero sense
The boat on the left has better fit and finish
Thunderjet built better..compare the kenai