❤What a sweet horse baby. It's funny about the rubbing all over the face stopping the amount of biting, I just heard that somewhere else too. Maybe it has to do with forming a touch connection or something. But I hope you're still making progress with him, since this is from May. Thanks for your videos. 🐎😍⭐🙏🥰
Thank you so much! Yes I find it so hard to learn from videos where trainers use trained horses to demonstrate!!! It’s almost useless because the horse is doing everything right already 😅
@@HorsePerfect I needed to see how a u touched horse would REALLY act. I plan to work with an untouched 8 month old out of a kill pen. He deserves a human that will do right by him and know what they’re doing. I learn for them. Not myself. I don’t want to fail a horse and be the reason they end up in a kill pen to begin with. I will fight to save as many as I can by doing things on their terms.
I see a foal that went from flight to freeze survival mechanism after realising he cant escape the pen. 🤔 Questionable how much of this "training" can even be processed by the brain in this state and how reasonable it is to confront him with wearing a halter, getting touched with the rope, being touched with the hand, than standing still while the stick hits the ground next to him, than contrary to that being told to move when the stick hits the ground, than being hit by the stick and so on.. all at the same time. He appears to be pretty owerwhelmed and just switching from freeze to flight back to freeze.
You're right, so I can't blame you there, but the foal isn't afraid of Horse Perfect, he just figured out he can't get away from him. Yes, the whip made contact, and even though people don't want to hear the truth, sometimes it's necessary to whack them with the lunge whip. I say lunge whip, no other kinds of whips and crops, something you might not understand. To be honest, if I were training a horse of any age, first I'll ask as many times as possible, and if that horse refuses or ignores me, I'll have to make them move by giving them a firm whack on the haunches. Same if I want them to back up, I'll ask as many times as possible, and if they're ignoring me or refusing, I'll have to whack them as firm as possible. Now, you may be thinking that I should not do that, well think about the high horse in the herd. In every horse herd, whether big or small herds, there's always a leader. High horses actually don't ask others to get out of there way or move, they make them move, which is why if you ever see a herd of horses, the high horse will make them move or get out their way. They may give out warning signs, but if a horse ignores them, the high horse will either bite or kick at them to get them to move. Mares who have foals will tell them to behave if they're being naughty. If that doesn't work, the mares will make them behave by kicking them or biting them, and the foals are like, "Okay, mom kicked/bit me. I better behave so it won't happen again." It's actually how mares correct their foals. Keep in mind that whipping for abuse is different from whipping them to get a horse moving, but not to use as a correction tool. I'll do say, I give you credit for not leaving a hate comment of Horse Perfect. Too many people think all training is the same and is perfect. Some days training is peaceful, sometimes it's not rainbows and candy since it always depends. There are days where horses will listen, and there are days where they don't. If you don't like what I said, sorry, but it's important for everyone to know. No horse person is perfect at anyway. Every horse person is different, like Horse Perfect.
@@ariellewilson730 "He just figured out he can't get away". That is a perfect description of learned Helplessness and how to install it. I dont agree with you that it is "necessery to whack them". If you don't get a math task and the (in korean language speaking) teacher hits you - will you know how to solve it afterwards? The answer is: No. I you ask multiple times and dont get the answer you want, it is likely that the other person doesn't understand your question and/or doesnt understand your way of "asking" - so how about trying a different way of explaining? Instead of reinforcing the way that was not understood or rejected previously. Einstein said: Definition of madness is trying the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. By the way: Should we really call it "asking", if one get's hit if the answer is "no/I don't want to" or "I cant"? If that's the process, you should call it "demanding" and not asking. Asking sounds nicer, but it is only asking if "No" is an option. If you dont want to get "No" as an answer, what about trying to become a person that someone/a horse, wants to say "yes" to - without force? Ever since some one (was it Monty Roberst?) observed the behaviour of wild horses in herds and made a (wrong) theory about hierarchy behaviour, people take that thing about the "high horse" or "the leader" as an excuse to use force, negative reinforcement and violance in training horses. Many people are making a common mistake (despite that there is no linear hierarchy in herds but complex triangular relationships) : Humas are not horses. And horses know that pretty well. We can not behave like horses, we do not have the social skills nor the facial expressions as horses. Therefore it doesn't work the same way. "Violence originates where knowledge ends and despair begins." Horses can just adapt pretty well, so stupid humans that downgrade themselves to using bad copies of horse communication methods, instead of using the real and full potential of their intellect to communicate, think their "methods" are working.
@@ThexMinEYou know what? How about I say if firm whacks but not harsh ones? I'm not against people who make contact on horses with lunge whips or making a sound behind them or next to them. Maybe I should've said 'tell' instead of 'ask'. You can't get upset all because of a firm, small contact with a lunge whip like how you shouldn't be upset with it not making contact. And I can't believe you used me as a comparison, which is rude, by the way. If you think there's a 'right' way to train a horse, then you need to watch other training videos from different horse people. For me, I would only, and yes, I'm changing my strategy here, make firm contacts, not harsh ones, if the horse doesn't do what I tell them to do. It's not being mean, a bully, whatever. Horses will tell the herd member of members first and if they don't do what they're told to do, they make them move, just how trainers and owners would do. Of course, you think different methods are bad and think only one kind works. Plus, you saw the foal letting Horse Perfect pet him. And there is hierarchy in all animals - like elephants. Do you know what happens after the older male elephants get killed by poachers? The young elephants cause destruction because they don't have that leadership. In humans, there's always an adult male figure keeping boys in line because you have robbery and murderers. Girls would be put them in line so they wont do the same. And I didn't say we can behave like horses, I said if we were horses, I'll be the boss mare in the herd because they're second in command unless it's just the two of us. You don't realize that. You don't realize why there's always a leader. Why do you think Mustang stallions protect their mares from bachelor stallions? It's because he's the leader who is willing to keep them safe. They'll even protect their foals. And the mares and foals know that since they respect the stallion, including respecting the boss mare. There is no equals in horses, dogs, cats, any animal in a herd or whatever. If you see a horse pinning their ears at another horse during feeding time, that horse is telling the other horse that they're eating first and they should wait, which is why many horse people make hay piles if they just feed them hay. They do the same with different kinds of grain by having horses having their own feeding buckets to have so that way they won't have to wait for the leader to be done eating. If you hate the truth, then I suggest you to delete your first comment and your replies if I were you.
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Thank you Horse Perfeckt for taking you’re time and letting us see that!
You’re welcome! I’m happy to show how it really is sometimes 😅
thankyou for showing the normal pain in the but parts. Its helpful!
You’re so welcome! Gotta keep it real!
It’s amazing how each session is so different! He will grow up to be such a pretty horse, and well trained too! Great work.
Thank you! I think so too! I filmed this back in May and he’s already so much bigger now 😍
Thanks for watching! 🙏🏼
This is so helpful with, thank you!!!
Glad it was helpful! 😊
❤What a sweet horse baby. It's funny about the rubbing all over the face stopping the amount of biting, I just heard that somewhere else too. Maybe it has to do with forming a touch connection or something. But I hope you're still making progress with him, since this is from May.
Thanks for your videos. 🐎😍⭐🙏🥰
He is a cute one! Yes it could be something like that!
Yes I am going to see him tomorrow at the ranch.
You’re so welcome many more to come!
Beautiful training! And thank you for giving us some raw moments! ❤
Thank you! 💙Yes I love to leave those real moments in there otherwise it’s just all fake and not how it really is sometimes 😅
What a beautiful goal. You are so good with him! It'll be fun to watch you & the goal both mature & learn together.
Thank you! He’s growing up to be a very handsome horse 🥰
As ever, very impressive. Patience wins the day, and the heart.
Thank you very much! Absolutely 😊
so wonderful beautiful video friend i love it so much to see so nice
Thanks for visiting!
@@HorsePerfect no problem my best friend how are you?
At the end rubbing all over will probably instill a relaxation sensation, and he yawned…great job
Thank you! Yes I think your right!
These videos are fantastic. A lot of training videos use trained horses to show you. This baby has nothing and it’s perfect to learn from
Thank you so much! Yes I find it so hard to learn from videos where trainers use trained horses to demonstrate!!! It’s almost useless because the horse is doing everything right already 😅
@@HorsePerfect I needed to see how a u touched horse would REALLY act. I plan to work with an untouched 8 month old out of a kill pen. He deserves a human that will do right by him and know what they’re doing. I learn for them. Not myself. I don’t want to fail a horse and be the reason they end up in a kill pen to begin with. I will fight to save as many as I can by doing things on their terms.
Love that! Excited for all you will do to help horses!
I see a foal that went from flight to freeze survival mechanism after realising he cant escape the pen.
🤔
Questionable how much of this "training" can even be processed by the brain in this state and how reasonable it is to confront him with wearing a halter, getting touched with the rope, being touched with the hand, than standing still while the stick hits the ground next to him, than contrary to that being told to move when the stick hits the ground, than being hit by the stick and so on.. all at the same time.
He appears to be pretty owerwhelmed and just switching from freeze to flight back to freeze.
Thanks for watching
You're right, so I can't blame you there, but the foal isn't afraid of Horse Perfect, he just figured out he can't get away from him. Yes, the whip made contact, and even though people don't want to hear the truth, sometimes it's necessary to whack them with the lunge whip. I say lunge whip, no other kinds of whips and crops, something you might not understand.
To be honest, if I were training a horse of any age, first I'll ask as many times as possible, and if that horse refuses or ignores me, I'll have to make them move by giving them a firm whack on the haunches. Same if I want them to back up, I'll ask as many times as possible, and if they're ignoring me or refusing, I'll have to whack them as firm as possible.
Now, you may be thinking that I should not do that, well think about the high horse in the herd. In every horse herd, whether big or small herds, there's always a leader. High horses actually don't ask others to get out of there way or move, they make them move, which is why if you ever see a herd of horses, the high horse will make them move or get out their way. They may give out warning signs, but if a horse ignores them, the high horse will either bite or kick at them to get them to move.
Mares who have foals will tell them to behave if they're being naughty. If that doesn't work, the mares will make them behave by kicking them or biting them, and the foals are like, "Okay, mom kicked/bit me. I better behave so it won't happen again." It's actually how mares correct their foals.
Keep in mind that whipping for abuse is different from whipping them to get a horse moving, but not to use as a correction tool.
I'll do say, I give you credit for not leaving a hate comment of Horse Perfect. Too many people think all training is the same and is perfect. Some days training is peaceful, sometimes it's not rainbows and candy since it always depends. There are days where horses will listen, and there are days where they don't.
If you don't like what I said, sorry, but it's important for everyone to know. No horse person is perfect at anyway. Every horse person is different, like Horse Perfect.
@@ariellewilson730 "He just figured out he can't get away". That is a perfect description of learned Helplessness and how to install it.
I dont agree with you that it is "necessery to whack them". If you don't get a math task and the (in korean language speaking) teacher hits you - will you know how to solve it afterwards? The answer is: No.
I you ask multiple times and dont get the answer you want, it is likely that the other person doesn't understand your question and/or doesnt understand your way of "asking" - so how about trying a different way of explaining? Instead of reinforcing the way that was not understood or rejected previously.
Einstein said: Definition of madness is trying the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.
By the way: Should we really call it "asking", if one get's hit if the answer is "no/I don't want to" or "I cant"?
If that's the process, you should call it "demanding" and not asking. Asking sounds nicer, but it is only asking if "No" is an option.
If you dont want to get "No" as an answer, what about trying to become a person that someone/a horse, wants to say "yes" to - without force?
Ever since some one (was it Monty Roberst?) observed the behaviour of wild horses in herds and made a (wrong) theory about hierarchy behaviour, people take that thing about the "high horse" or "the leader" as an excuse to use force, negative reinforcement and violance in training horses.
Many people are making a common mistake (despite that there is no linear hierarchy in herds but complex triangular relationships) : Humas are not horses. And horses know that pretty well. We can not behave like horses, we do not have the social skills nor the facial expressions as horses.
Therefore it doesn't work the same way.
"Violence originates where knowledge ends and despair begins."
Horses can just adapt pretty well, so stupid humans that downgrade themselves to using bad copies of horse communication methods, instead of using the real and full potential of their intellect to communicate, think their "methods" are working.
@@ThexMinEYou know what? How about I say if firm whacks but not harsh ones? I'm not against people who make contact on horses with lunge whips or making a sound behind them or next to them. Maybe I should've said 'tell' instead of 'ask'. You can't get upset all because of a firm, small contact with a lunge whip like how you shouldn't be upset with it not making contact.
And I can't believe you used me as a comparison, which is rude, by the way. If you think there's a 'right' way to train a horse, then you need to watch other training videos from different horse people.
For me, I would only, and yes, I'm changing my strategy here, make firm contacts, not harsh ones, if the horse doesn't do what I tell them to do. It's not being mean, a bully, whatever. Horses will tell the herd member of members first and if they don't do what they're told to do, they make them move, just how trainers and owners would do. Of course, you think different methods are bad and think only one kind works.
Plus, you saw the foal letting Horse Perfect pet him.
And there is hierarchy in all animals - like elephants. Do you know what happens after the older male elephants get killed by poachers? The young elephants cause destruction because they don't have that leadership.
In humans, there's always an adult male figure keeping boys in line because you have robbery and murderers. Girls would be put them in line so they wont do the same.
And I didn't say we can behave like horses, I said if we were horses, I'll be the boss mare in the herd because they're second in command unless it's just the two of us.
You don't realize that. You don't realize why there's always a leader. Why do you think Mustang stallions protect their mares from bachelor stallions? It's because he's the leader who is willing to keep them safe. They'll even protect their foals. And the mares and foals know that since they respect the stallion, including respecting the boss mare.
There is no equals in horses, dogs, cats, any animal in a herd or whatever. If you see a horse pinning their ears at another horse during feeding time, that horse is telling the other horse that they're eating first and they should wait, which is why many horse people make hay piles if they just feed them hay. They do the same with different kinds of grain by having horses having their own feeding buckets to have so that way they won't have to wait for the leader to be done eating.
If you hate the truth, then I suggest you to delete your first comment and your replies if I were you.