Having recently watched the Arte tv Documentary about Mayor Chris Pappas of uMngeni Municipality on RUclips, the DA is by far the best and most experienced choice to take SA forward in 2024!!!
Its not so much about age, but more about common sense, honesty, values, integretry, business acumen, skills , actions in place for the best of the nation.
Chris Pappas handled Sizwe's bias very well. When you're privileged like Sizwe, it's hard to understand suffering by the hands of the failing government when you don't experience it yourself. Chris has the people's interests at heart
I did not pick up the slightest hint of bias at all. I think the questions Sizwe asked, were fair. All our politicians should face very tough questions, and Chris handled himself very well.
Don't get me wrong politicians need to handle heat. My comparison is other interviews, take the Orania guy for example. Sizwe was engaged, follow on questions. Here he just fires questions with subtle jabs, doesn't engage. It's almost like he's forced to do an interview he doesn't want to, so makes it really boring and insulting. I'm probably biased cause I like Pappas style but I feel Sizwe is capable of much better
I will never ever share my experience with corrupt people. I am black but I will never share my experiences with corrupt black ❤people. Skin colour doesn’t matter what matters is service delivery that we need.Skin colour does not matter at all.❤
Sizwe's chip on shoulder and shortcomings as an interviewer hugely exposed. Hopefully he improves in time, but I doubt it. His bias is too strong and maturity severely lacking. Pappas is going places. Bright young mind.
I honestly don’t think that he was trying to corner him or to try and make him look bad There is one thing as white South Africans we need to start accepting and deal with and that is until the day that we can truly acknowledge that we don’t understand the deep pain that was caused to black South Africans, black South Africans will never trust white South Africans So yes everything that is done should reflect that you acknowledge it, the way you behave the way we act everything needs to show that we are sorry about what happened, and by this I don’t mean white South Africans should fall on their knees in front of every black South African and apologise Let me use a example Firstly if you are in a relationship with someone and you screwed up and broke your partners trust, you treat your partner with respect and work hard to regain their trust, I think it’s fair that the majority of white South Africans has not done that and have just continued with the lives they always did and did not try and change their behaviour With this in mind it is important to recognise that black South Africans is justified to distrust white people and need more convincing, if this was a relationship do you think your partner would have forgiven you if you treated her the way majority of white South Africans still treat black South Africans and if you can’t see this then you are extremely selfish and should not be in this relationship because being part of the country is been in relationships So I guess what I am trying to say is and ask of my fellow white South Africans is treat everyone the way you would treat your family and yes see colour not to judge people but to know how to approach a problem, and to acknowledge what is important to that person, just be respectful and be patient if you feel like people aren’t trusting you because of the colour of your skin, yes we are 30 years into democracy but we still have a long way to go to fix this relationship
True that and the trust would have been gained long time ago had the land issue and the levelling of the economic field been addressed honestly. I mean why must there be an Orania in this day and age?
You said a mouthful! As a Brown South African, I appreciate your honesty. Conviction and repentence (if we understand the meaning of word repentence), those are what's needed for this country to move forward.
Yes,young leaders have a potential to make this cou try a better place to be.Young,brilliant, cool minded and peace loving young leader is what we pray for. There is war in Ukrainian and Russia but who is dying in numbers? Poor and innocent people. Those who initiated the fight are well protected.
SABC please get a professionally trained journalist to do this show. If we're being honest Sizwe's presenting skills leaves a lot to be desired, I am sure there are people with more talent and suitable qualification who would do a much better job. Thank you!
Screw all the haters and the indoctrinated mutts in the comment section, Sizwe was fair and Pappas handled himself well, whn most white DA members would be rattled and prone to say something stupid, the man handled himself well.... This was fair.
I agree, I had no prior knowledge to Sizwe until I had read the comment section. I thought his questions were very fair, tough at times. But that's how it should always be when interviewing politicians.
Indoctrinated fool, learn your history and understand what over 400+ years means.... And if you are religious, you already lost, for that's is and was their justification. The world is rapidly changing and we have the numbers and birth rates so if I we're you, I would decolonize my mind. See it's always been about race and the coloured community is an example of that power race has, that's why they fear melanin. So yeah race politics, after all they are the only politics we've had for 400 years....
When new industry been built by ANC in south Africa which job been creat by ANC which electricity or water create by ANC which technology been built by ANC no
Well said and we'll controlled Chris as always, you are always cool calm and collected in having to keep repeating your answers in different ways no matter how many times the questions get twisted
Look.... That's something you will never run from(race).... Unlike the DA, most south Africans aren't dogs/ colour-blind.... We see the entire colour spectrum and that's a beautiful world to live in.... Colourful. The country was formed and build based on race, so why are surprised????
I think he was just trying to create new "scandal " , he was not interesting in facts or truth but glad it didn't happened. His guest was one step ahead
@@CodeSleeper Its only about race when it benefits you. We should see what race does the most crime, most r*ping, most murder. OOOO wait you dont see race when it comes to those things.
@@CodeSleeper The DA is not colour blind at all!! It understands that mostly black people were discriminated against during Apartheid and has a credible and very workable Redress Policy to make up for past inequalities. It has the experience, capability and capacity to uplift people out of poverty in record time, which is unmatched by any other political party in SA (as well as the track record to prove it!!) The DA is also the most racially diverse political party in the long history of SA and prides itself on its racial diversity!! It also walks the talk, having Black, White , Coloured and Indian persons in its Top 6 Leadership structure. The ANC and EFF on the other hand are 100 % Black, while the Freedom Front is 100% White!! As the Springboks have shown us , we are much stronger as a nation when we work together , rather than apart! Now do you see what I mean?
Sizwe just focussed on race! Discussing race will not create jobs and fix lives! ANC have stuffed the country up for everyonce except a few connected cadres, through race based policy!
Sizwe touched on many different issues, you just got emotional when it got to race and that's the general attitude of a lot of white people in this country. People keep saying he's biased yet fail to recognise their own bias about not wanting him to talk about race, which is still a serious issue in this country.
@pho977 yes the racist ANC with their racist policies is a big issue I agree. Worse than that is people after 30 years don't have water, sanitation, education, healthcare, rubbish removal, public transport, JOBS the list is endless....
@garagepie, unlike you, I am willing to accept that we have serious issues in this country, not only created by the brutal apartheid system but also by the current government. The ANC has indeed failed. I will never try to defend that, but the difference between you and I is that you fail to acknowledge the fact that we have serious race issues and inequalities in this country and would rather we not talk about them and only focus on the issues that affect you directly. White concerns are not superior to black concerns, like it or not we all live in this country and have different experiences.
Because ANC excluded them ask FW DE KLERK he suggested it but ANC claimed is the only party that can handle the transition....look for the video Mandela vs De klerk
@@ikgothule6463why are you lying,? If you don't have knowledge on a subject don't comment, you'll make yourself a fool, even though the anc won the election overwhelming, they shared power with the NP and IFP, go do your research instead of misleading people
A thousand years of experience.... 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have yet to see a pyramid in Europe... A thousand years of experience, hitlerites man are funny as f@k.... The kingdom of Muwenemutapa will rise again fool, you fool.... A thousand years.... What a joke.
I dont get where is Sizwe bias in this interview at some point he even points out that when it comes to service delivery the DA beats the ANC hands down. The only point he is trying the DA to focus on is the stigma that the DA is a racist party that. People must not pick up their phones with the aim of destroying Sizwe simply bcz his father is an EFF member but rather to listen to understand his interview direction.
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words . Great King Shaka.❤
Someone what D.A is advocating for? Why they are not talking about it . example we know EFF natilisation, land, free education ANC , PAC although ANC is lost now.
The problem is that ANC and EFF voters do not want to see that those that claim to represent their case are only in it for themselves. Its hard for observers to fathom these behaviours but; it explains the pain of the hopeless voter's abandon to these people. ANC is truly a den of thieves. And the EFF will murder the baby in the crib. We can only pray for God's mercy; perhaps to send a spirit of confusion amongst them all.
I hope everybody saw hiw Chris dilly dallied around the question of what he plans to empower the black people who were marginalised by apartheid. I was laughing so hard but was not suprised. He seems to think the building of roads will empower us instead of the exchange of wealth. Yet when we talk about wyt peoples wealth we not only speak about roads, access to water but we also speak of economic wealth, land etc In short white people have no plan to serious empower black people and level the playing field. Instead like all wyt people in his party he resorts to attacking those initiatives that were thought as could result in sharing of the wealth.
This is laughable the only reason people dont vote DA is because of race. They know they are more than capable of doing the job, so to turn around and keep calling them on race is frankly silly.
Race and apartheid are after 30 years still being brought up… please the interviewer is bringing his own personal issues of race into the debate which is totally irrelevant… the ANC despite being predominantly “black” has destroyed this country… what a Wally for an interviewer
Keep fooling yourself that race and apartheid are history. Legacy issues will continue to haunt as long as they are not dealt with sincerity. A lot of South Africa’s problems are legacy issues, ANC’s failures including corruption sometimes done in concert with same apartheid era fat cats/beneficiaries does not atone for the sins of the past. Despite the wins the structural inequality that were created pre 1948 and post 1948 - 1994 will still need to be addressed with or without ANC.
And you will remain stuck in the past… you haven’t evolved to understand that you are the maker and designer of your own destiny… it has very little to do with the environment any enlightened person will tell you this … there are millions of people around the world who have made a success if their lives despise their circumstances… I cannot and will not debate this with someone who cannot but blame others
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words . Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words . Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words . Great King Shaka.❤
Where did he say or write it - Twitter? --> His last words (based on UNESCO archives) were: "So, my brothers, you are killing me? And you, Mbopha, son of Sithayi! You think you shall rule Zululand after my death. No, you shall never rule over it" . Nothing was mentioned with West.... What was the definition of West back then in 1828?
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words . Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words . Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words . Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words . Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words . Great King Shaka.❤
Having recently watched the Arte tv Documentary about Mayor Chris Pappas of uMngeni Municipality on RUclips, the DA is by far the best and most experienced choice to take SA forward in 2024!!!
Its not so much about age, but more about common sense, honesty, values, integretry, business acumen, skills , actions in place for the best of the nation.
Chris Pappas handled Sizwe's bias very well. When you're privileged like Sizwe, it's hard to understand suffering by the hands of the failing government when you don't experience it yourself. Chris has the people's interests at heart
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nonsense
Why do you want micky mouse interviews? Get a grip
There was no question that was out of bounds. They were all thoughtful?
I did not pick up the slightest hint of bias at all. I think the questions Sizwe asked, were fair. All our politicians should face very tough questions, and Chris handled himself very well.
Don't get me wrong politicians need to handle heat. My comparison is other interviews, take the Orania guy for example. Sizwe was engaged, follow on questions. Here he just fires questions with subtle jabs, doesn't engage. It's almost like he's forced to do an interview he doesn't want to, so makes it really boring and insulting. I'm probably biased cause I like Pappas style but I feel Sizwe is capable of much better
Agreed. His demeanor on SMWX is quite different I must say @@deanddm
Our cool Mayor in Howick 🎉
Jealous right now 😂😂
Two brilliant young minds…Keep the faith.
chris pappas is a vibe. This is a president waiting
I will never ever share my experience with corrupt people.
I am black but I will never share my experiences with corrupt black ❤people.
Skin colour doesn’t matter what matters is service delivery that we need.Skin colour does not matter at all.❤
Can you share it with corrupt white people?😅
I wish everyone thought like that in SA
How can you even think to follow the corrupt ones! They are the ones who stole our money and made the poor poorer😮 18:00
Sizwe's chip on shoulder and shortcomings as an interviewer hugely exposed. Hopefully he improves in time, but I doubt it. His bias is too strong and maturity severely lacking. Pappas is going places. Bright young mind.
We love you Pappus our President
I honestly don’t think that he was trying to corner him or to try and make him look bad
There is one thing as white South Africans we need to start accepting and deal with and that is until the day that we can truly acknowledge that we don’t understand the deep pain that was caused to black South Africans, black South Africans will never trust white South Africans
So yes everything that is done should reflect that you acknowledge it, the way you behave the way we act everything needs to show that we are sorry about what happened, and by this I don’t mean white South Africans should fall on their knees in front of every black South African and apologise
Let me use a example
Firstly if you are in a relationship with someone and you screwed up and broke your partners trust, you treat your partner with respect and work hard to regain their trust, I think it’s fair that the majority of white South Africans has not done that and have just continued with the lives they always did and did not try and change their behaviour
With this in mind it is important to recognise that black South Africans is justified to distrust white people and need more convincing, if this was a relationship do you think your partner would have forgiven you if you treated her the way majority of white South Africans still treat black South Africans and if you can’t see this then you are extremely selfish and should not be in this relationship because being part of the country is been in relationships
So I guess what I am trying to say is and ask of my fellow white South Africans is treat everyone the way you would treat your family and yes see colour not to judge people but to know how to approach a problem, and to acknowledge what is important to that person, just be respectful and be patient if you feel like people aren’t trusting you because of the colour of your skin, yes we are 30 years into democracy but we still have a long way to go to fix this relationship
True that and the trust would have been gained long time ago had the land issue and the levelling of the economic field been addressed honestly.
I mean why must there be an Orania in this day and age?
You said a mouthful! As a Brown South African, I appreciate your honesty. Conviction and repentence (if we understand the meaning of word repentence), those are what's needed for this country to move forward.
I admire young blood in leadership
Pappas giving Sizwe a lesson of rationality and common sense
Sizwe couldn't hide his bias this time.
So according to you, black journalists should never bring up the race questions, coz that's the only thing that bothers you right???
@@CodeSleeper First point is that Sizwe is coloured not black. Secondly I never talk about race. Thirdly don't hide your name like a coward.
Like when he hides it for the EFF... Sizwe is an EFF member
@@CodeSleeperwhen did he say this? Are you on tik? Read his comment again.....and slowly, if that's was needed
@@ShaunDurandt 🤔🤔🤔tik tok??? What bias does the comment refer to then??? Enlighten me.
Pappas your superior logic is lost on the corrupt SABC.
The major schooled you Siswe
We are South Africans 30 years into democracy
Yes,young leaders have a potential to make this cou try a better place to be.Young,brilliant, cool minded and peace loving young leader is what we pray for. There is war in Ukrainian and Russia but who is dying in numbers? Poor and innocent people. Those who initiated the fight are well protected.
Love Chris Pappas 💙
SABC please get a professionally trained journalist to do this show. If we're being honest Sizwe's presenting skills leaves a lot to be desired, I am sure there are people with more talent and suitable qualification who would do a much better job. Thank you!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 qualified????😂😂😂😂 You are pathetic my guy.
Mnk
When your father is Dali Mpofu, you can see how he got this job. Unfortunately he can't be unbiased and it shows,
Screw all the haters and the indoctrinated mutts in the comment section, Sizwe was fair and Pappas handled himself well, whn most white DA members would be rattled and prone to say something stupid, the man handled himself well.... This was fair.
I agree, I had no prior knowledge to Sizwe until I had read the comment section. I thought his questions were very fair, tough at times. But that's how it should always be when interviewing politicians.
Yes please!!! Our country desperately needs change....
Oh my goodness....COLOUR THE CHEAPER POLITICS
Indoctrinated fool, learn your history and understand what over 400+ years means.... And if you are religious, you already lost, for that's is and was their justification. The world is rapidly changing and we have the numbers and birth rates so if I we're you, I would decolonize my mind. See it's always been about race and the coloured community is an example of that power race has, that's why they fear melanin. So yeah race politics, after all they are the only politics we've had for 400 years....
When new industry been built by ANC in south Africa which job been creat by ANC which electricity or water create by ANC which technology been built by ANC no
Well said and we'll controlled Chris as always, you are always cool calm and collected in having to keep repeating your answers in different ways no matter how many times the questions get twisted
Electricity ANC got no any experience to fix electricity problem because they did not build that so they got zero knowledge about electricity
Race, race, race, race, race. Why does this interviewer not listen to the answers given instead of formulating the next race based question?
Look.... That's something you will never run from(race).... Unlike the DA, most south Africans aren't dogs/ colour-blind.... We see the entire colour spectrum and that's a beautiful world to live in.... Colourful. The country was formed and build based on race, so why are surprised????
I think he was just trying to create new "scandal " , he was not interesting in facts or truth but glad it didn't happened. His guest was one step ahead
Perpetual chip on the shoulder, shame
@@CodeSleeper Its only about race when it benefits you. We should see what race does the most crime, most r*ping, most murder. OOOO wait you dont see race when it comes to those things.
@@CodeSleeper The DA is not colour blind at all!! It understands that mostly black people were discriminated against during Apartheid and has a credible and very workable Redress Policy to make up for past inequalities.
It has the experience, capability and capacity to uplift people out of poverty in record time, which is unmatched by any other political party in SA (as well as the track record to prove it!!)
The DA is also the most racially diverse political party in the long history of SA and prides itself on its racial diversity!!
It also walks the talk, having Black, White , Coloured and Indian persons in its Top 6 Leadership structure. The ANC and EFF on the other hand are 100 % Black, while the Freedom Front is 100% White!!
As the Springboks have shown us , we are much stronger as a nation when we work together , rather than apart!
Now do you see what I mean?
Yes man... we need a handsome President.
Sizwe just focussed on race! Discussing race will not create jobs and fix lives!
ANC have stuffed the country up for everyonce except a few connected cadres, through race based policy!
Sizwe touched on many different issues, you just got emotional when it got to race and that's the general attitude of a lot of white people in this country. People keep saying he's biased yet fail to recognise their own bias about not wanting him to talk about race, which is still a serious issue in this country.
@pho977 yes the racist ANC with their racist policies is a big issue I agree.
Worse than that is people after 30 years don't have water, sanitation, education, healthcare, rubbish removal, public transport, JOBS the list is endless....
@garagepie, unlike you, I am willing to accept that we have serious issues in this country, not only created by the brutal apartheid system but also by the current government. The ANC has indeed failed. I will never try to defend that, but the difference between you and I is that you fail to acknowledge the fact that we have serious race issues and inequalities in this country and would rather we not talk about them and only focus on the issues that affect you directly. White concerns are not superior to black concerns, like it or not we all live in this country and have different experiences.
When you see ANC got nothing accept racist remake and bullying other and anger and emotions fragile
What do you mean by saying he claims ..........
White south Africa why they did not share their thousand years of experience with ANC
Because ANC excluded them ask FW DE KLERK he suggested it but ANC claimed is the only party that can handle the transition....look for the video Mandela vs De klerk
@@ikgothule6463why are you lying,? If you don't have knowledge on a subject don't comment, you'll make yourself a fool, even though the anc won the election overwhelming, they shared power with the NP and IFP, go do your research instead of misleading people
Bcos ANC exclude them through BEE and Affirmative Action
The ANC didn't want anyone. If the ANC wanted training why not ask.
A thousand years of experience.... 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have yet to see a pyramid in Europe... A thousand years of experience, hitlerites man are funny as f@k.... The kingdom of Muwenemutapa will rise again fool, you fool.... A thousand years.... What a joke.
I dont get where is Sizwe bias in this interview at some point he even points out that when it comes to service delivery the DA beats the ANC hands down. The only point he is trying the DA to focus on is the stigma that the DA is a racist party that. People must not pick up their phones with the aim of destroying Sizwe simply bcz his father is an EFF member but rather to listen to understand his interview direction.
Fair comment 👌
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words .
Great King Shaka.❤
HAHA ya listen to the guy that genocide 1.5million black people for land. We are uneducated.
Someone what D.A is advocating for? Why they are not talking about it . example we know EFF natilisation, land, free education ANC , PAC although ANC is lost now.
Depends who!!!
Interesting guest, uninteresting host.
Give him chang
SABC trying very hard to get a Gotcha. What happened to this case Sizwe and SABC?
😮
The problem is that ANC and EFF voters do not want to see that those that claim to represent their case are only in it for themselves.
Its hard for observers to fathom these behaviours but; it explains the pain of the hopeless voter's abandon to these people.
ANC is truly a den of thieves. And the EFF will murder the baby in the crib. We can only pray for God's mercy; perhaps to send a spirit of confusion amongst them all.
Again Sizwe coming with his EFF biases
Correction : the Leaders of Mr Zuma 's party and certainly not. M F should work with. Chris Pappa's . My apologies .
He’s not running to win kanti?
History shows government with no experience is failed government and can not be fix till government with experience can gerven
Ey Mr racists.... I agree with you.... The DA has no experience full stop.
I hope everybody saw hiw Chris dilly dallied around the question of what he plans to empower the black people who were marginalised by apartheid.
I was laughing so hard but was not suprised.
He seems to think the building of roads will empower us instead of the exchange of wealth.
Yet when we talk about wyt peoples wealth we not only speak about roads, access to water but we also speak of economic wealth, land etc
In short white people have no plan to serious empower black people and level the playing field.
Instead like all wyt people in his party he resorts to attacking those initiatives that were thought as could result in sharing of the wealth.
Just to correct you we are not wyt people. We are white people. Stupid
This is laughable the only reason people dont vote DA is because of race. They know they are more than capable of doing the job, so to turn around and keep calling them on race is frankly silly.
2:13 maybe that’s cause you commit the crime buddy
St. Mother Teresa India 🇮🇳
😂❤😂
Notice how Sizwe didn’t press Chris on the alleged nepotism😂
How are you going to generate economic activity and sustain human development, how are you going to do this Chris papas
Race and apartheid are after 30 years still being brought up… please the interviewer is bringing his own personal issues of race into the debate which is totally irrelevant… the ANC despite being predominantly “black” has destroyed this country… what a Wally for an interviewer
Keep fooling yourself that race and apartheid are history. Legacy issues will continue to haunt as long as they are not dealt with sincerity. A lot of South Africa’s problems are legacy issues, ANC’s failures including corruption sometimes done in concert with same apartheid era fat cats/beneficiaries does not atone for the sins of the past. Despite the wins the structural inequality that were created pre 1948 and post 1948 - 1994 will still need to be addressed with or without ANC.
And you will remain stuck in the past… you haven’t evolved to understand that you are the maker and designer of your own destiny… it has very little to do with the environment any enlightened person will tell you this … there are millions of people around the world who have made a success if their lives despise their circumstances… I cannot and will not debate this with someone who cannot but blame others
@@WHOLT2the world is filled with billions of people my friend.
Why just questioning potholes and race! You are a bad interviewer🫣
Who cares!!!!!
The da trojan horse, I'll never take the bate
Then what do you call the ANC? They literally destroyed everything there is to destroy.
BS
One Africa One currency One Army One President and that's Julius Malema
He will never be South African President.
Sorry but most of us hate that loon.
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words .
Great King Shaka.❤
😂
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words .
Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words .
Great King Shaka.❤
Where did he say or write it - Twitter? --> His last words (based on UNESCO archives) were: "So, my brothers, you are killing me? And you, Mbopha, son of Sithayi! You think you shall rule Zululand after my death. No, you shall never rule over it" . Nothing was mentioned with West.... What was the definition of West back then in 1828?
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words .
Great King Shaka.❤
Lol😂😂😂😂 you believe that Shaka movie, you people are so ignorant
Ag please get your head in order😳
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words .
Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words .
Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words .
Great King Shaka.❤
King Shaka’s last words were “ you are assassinating me thinking you will rule the country forget it people from the West will govern you “ and he died now we are seeing the fulfilment of his words .
Great King Shaka.❤