I love the quality of life features on the Leakerkim wheels and I love my ShermanS. But damn, I get excited every time I ride my buddy’s commander pro.
Hi Ronin, I have Commander Pro 50s too. I'd like to add a few of my observations. Waterproofing is bad. Must dissasembly rear lamp and seal it by silicone. Cable passage to the electronics box also. Troley handle does not hold in the folded position. You need to add shims there, then the shaft fits into the slot for locking. Front lamp is realistically usable up to 30 km/h. In rear lamp you could set three modes of blinking, don´t neeed another red lamp. I didn't have a problem when trying the freespin, but out of the box I flash the firmware first. My battery drain is about 1% to 1,5km. Range about 120km is real. Under 10% pwm alarm begin beeping about cca 30km/h. Charger is 5A, charging is quite fast
I have always liked the Commander Pro. Now that it's equipped with 50s batteries & field weakening. It really makes the Commander Pro an all around solid performance wheel. Great video Ronin. Thanks for sharing!
In practice, one should lower berm angle to 15 degrees for this test then return to 55 degrees after. Imagine having to drop the wheel while freespinning! Danger!
This may seem like an odd comment but I recently let the air out of my v11 suspension (because I hate that suspension on v11), and the wheel has been transformed. Lower pedal height resulted in more control, agility, torque (accessible torque for me not actual in theory), and better ride feel. I don't go faster than 30 mph (yet), so it took the v11 from a wheel that I hated to one I enjoy now.
I have a question about the 50s cells. They are obviously perfect for really high performance wheels and sustained high speed but wouldn't they have even more impact on lower voltage wheels? An 84v wheel needs double the amps compared to a 168v wheel like the ET Max. Couldn't that mean that low voltage wheels could reach higher top speed with these cells?
I was watching something else using tire balance beads and it occurred to me that they might be useful in helping push top speeds past some otherwise wobbly points, because at higher speeds the beads put weight in the center of your tire but otherwise are negligible being an ounce or so of mass, maybe 50g at most. It might be enough to go through the harmonic points of oscillation without having to slow down significantly, which is usually what happens even if you don't brake you'll be leaking speed as it's literally being scrubbed off in side to side motion.
Seems there's not much information available on the suspension, so maybe I'd just ask what's your full rider weight in all gear? How do you feel the suspension behaves off road, on the pavement when riding slowly and on the road when riding fast? These are specifically the scenarios for which I feel my EX30 suspension needs readjustment each time I enter into one of them.
If you had to have this CP 50s or lynx which would you pick? They both seem like good choices, if the waterproofing is much worse on CP :/ Also the wider rim. But then on lynx the higher pedal height. It seems CP is better to ride on street and lynx is more versatile also good off road. Oof. Spare parts in the future, would it be worse to get the CP for that reason? Lynx has that soft magnesium shell and screws strip. Gosh negatives to each one
Amazing review! I had no idea about the adjustable hangers. I’d love to know if your wheel has Smart BMS like ewheels says. 9:55 Can not be ignored, I know it’s FW related but that is terrifying and they should fix ASAP!
geepers, that bug is fooken crazy! Was hoping it would be a little faster than the Lynx , but 55mph is about the same. Wait till you put a street tire on the Lynx, really makes it a lot better.
yes I've hit 60mph on the Lynx (nongps), guess its a matter of how much into your beeps you can go before cutout...not the funnest game to play @@Ronin_Ryder
I think the lynx is a much higher quality of wheel, I ride a commander pro standard version and love it! I trail ride often with it. But its durability and quality of certain components is poor. Also some design choices is also sub optimal. Overall great wheel, but far from perfect, I feel like it could be perfect if more thought and testing went into place
hi, I saw marty video commander pro GT and he mentioned the handles have sharp edges, does the commander pro 50s handles easy to grip or also sharp edges
is the ex30 motor and rim? dont like blue rim on it , red its better . anyway ,it looking good ,it seem a solid wheel and a powerful beast.great job Ronin!
Hi Ronin. I now have a CP 50S. When setting the Magnetic Field Weakening to 9 in the Begode app, it says “set successful” but it still shows 0. Did this many times, still stayed at 0. Is there another setting I need to change?
this is an amazing wheel but i'm wondering, was that speed run using magnetic weakening? i would love to see you do a video of the cp50s doing speed runs to 75%pwm on 0%, 40%, and 90% field weakening to see the speed increase
Hey Ronin, nice video, I think you should consider start using GPS when measuring speed, new models from begode are overreporting speed more and more for every new model, EX30 overreports around 13%, the ET Max overreports as much as 15% (!), making it difficult and pointless to compare between brands or even models from the same brand, for example the Lynx overreports only around 5%, that is a 10% difference in what the wheel reports compared to GPS. Then everyone is comparing these numbers which aren't even correct to begin with. If GPS speed is used instead we get a fair and accurate comparison between different models and brands and no fantasy numbers.
Thank you, makes sense but there's a catch: im doing this inside a tunnel. Have you watched that gt pro video reporting 100mph gps under a tunnel? Gps won't work...Euc world wouldn't report either tracking under the cutout tunnel.
In nyc, traffic is terrible. We have highways but i don't feel like beta testing there🤣 otherwise i would need to take the train for 1h to reach remote areas.
GOOD GRAVY! I know I'm out of my depth commenting here but I just happened to see this video and my mind was boggled! How in the hell does this machine prevent the Rider forward momentum launching him or her like a projectile if and when you would have to make an emergency stop at high speed? I really don't understand the physics that are going on here! 🤏🧠💥🫨💦 (╯°□°）╯︵ 🛞
@@Ronin_Ryder well yes obviously, though I doubt it would benefit myself or anyone else, I'm not clumsy but I've never had any natural balancing ability. When I was growing up we used the term "Fu★k Footed" which wasn't derogatory it just means someone who's brain decides to use a non-dominant hand or foot for tasks that should be done by dominant appendages, a bit like unconscious ambidexterity. Ie when I was in the US army back in the 90s I caught a lot of hell in the beginning from drill sergeants because I shouldered a rifle with my left arm and used my left hand on the trigger though I am a right-handed person, similarly I ride a skateboard with the opposite foot in other words I write a skateboard like a left-handed person I shoot a weapon like a left-handed person and though I am actually an expert shot I am not so lucky when it comes to other things like skateboarding surfing roller skating rollerblading jumping bikes etc.
@@Ronin_Ryder It is not true. You can build battery form 5p40s cels eg 3700Wh. I expect that you will tell me that the battery pack must consist of an even number of parralel brachnes in order to ensure symetrical division of weight around EUC. But Begode/EB did clever decision and they divide 40s battery in to 2x20s. In this config you will have 10 battery packs, 5 of them in each side of EUC.
Irrelevant for people who enjoy slow speeds only. But there's a variety of riders, let alone the headroom evidence it shows as well. Thanks for watching!
That freespin test was scary
That's crazy indeed:)
Deathly terrifying.
If they supported replacement parts year's into the future and it was $1,000 less I would consider it over the Lynx
I love the quality of life features on the Leakerkim wheels and I love my ShermanS. But damn, I get excited every time I ride my buddy’s commander pro.
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This is my wheel. I absolutely love it. Especially now with my paddles lowered. Thank you Ronin
Hi Ronin, I have Commander Pro 50s too. I'd like to add a few of my observations. Waterproofing is bad. Must dissasembly rear lamp and seal it by silicone. Cable passage to the electronics box also. Troley handle does not hold in the folded position. You need to add shims there, then the shaft fits into the slot for locking. Front lamp is realistically usable up to 30 km/h. In rear lamp you could set three modes of blinking, don´t neeed another red lamp. I didn't have a problem when trying the freespin, but out of the box I flash the firmware first. My battery drain is about 1% to 1,5km. Range about 120km is real. Under 10% pwm alarm begin beeping about cca 30km/h. Charger is 5A, charging is quite fast
I flashed the firmware too. The trolley handle folds and holds fine on mine. The water proofing, needs a backpack cover. 👍
How do you change the color of the rear lights?
RONIN I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS DAY!!!!!
😅😅🙏
Damn bro. That was killing my back just watching you do the freespin. 😂
Same here🤣
6 weeks after lifting a v11 out of my trunk my back still hurts 😢
Totally
@@Ronin_Ryder 🤣
great review! very informative. thank you for the work you do, Ronin. We appreciate it
Thanks for watching!!
You and your wheel sitting amongst that sculpture showed great fun and imagination. Merci Ronin. 6 pack Gord
Thank you!!
That's my wheel 😁👍 Excellent review
Thanks! 👍
I have always liked the Commander Pro. Now that it's equipped with 50s batteries & field weakening. It really makes the Commander Pro an all around solid performance wheel. Great video Ronin. Thanks for sharing!
💯 Sensei!
When you freespin a wheel and it won't cut out like that tilt it sideways with your knees to hit berm angle.
In practice, one should lower berm angle to 15 degrees for this test then return to 55 degrees after. Imagine having to drop the wheel while freespinning! Danger!
Ow yeah 💪 extremely good review my friend! Love the songs used in this. It brings a lot of energy to the video 😉
13:25 this is the finished product of the ex30 🧐good to know.
ngl, this slick review put me over the edge to put in my order for this wheel
Thanks. It's a great wheel!
This may seem like an odd comment but I recently let the air out of my v11 suspension (because I hate that suspension on v11), and the wheel has been transformed. Lower pedal height resulted in more control, agility, torque (accessible torque for me not actual in theory), and better ride feel. I don't go faster than 30 mph (yet), so it took the v11 from a wheel that I hated to one I enjoy now.
I have a question about the 50s cells.
They are obviously perfect for really high performance wheels and sustained high speed but wouldn't they have even more impact on lower voltage wheels? An 84v wheel needs double the amps compared to a 168v wheel like the ET Max.
Couldn't that mean that low voltage wheels could reach higher top speed with these cells?
I got the custom job done by extreme bull where they put the ex30 display
I didn't know that was possible.
@@Ronin_Ryder yeah a bunch of my friends got it. I wish I can send you photos here
Great Wheel presentation 👍
👍👍👍
Ça a l'air pas mal dangereux de rouler sur ces grands boulevards ! Très bonne analyse de cette roue ! Merci bcp
I was watching something else using tire balance beads and it occurred to me that they might be useful in helping push top speeds past some otherwise wobbly points, because at higher speeds the beads put weight in the center of your tire but otherwise are negligible being an ounce or so of mass, maybe 50g at most.
It might be enough to go through the harmonic points of oscillation without having to slow down significantly, which is usually what happens even if you don't brake you'll be leaking speed as it's literally being scrubbed off in side to side motion.
Seems there's not much information available on the suspension, so maybe I'd just ask what's your full rider weight in all gear? How do you feel the suspension behaves off road, on the pavement when riding slowly and on the road when riding fast? These are specifically the scenarios for which I feel my EX30 suspension needs readjustment each time I enter into one of them.
If you had to have this CP 50s or lynx which would you pick? They both seem like good choices, if the waterproofing is much worse on CP :/ Also the wider rim.
But then on lynx the higher pedal height. It seems CP is better to ride on street and lynx is more versatile also good off road. Oof.
Spare parts in the future, would it be worse to get the CP for that reason? Lynx has that soft magnesium shell and screws strip. Gosh negatives to each one
Take the one that appeals to you the most. It really depends on your use case.
I like the optimums prime color scheme
😅😅🤣🤣🤣
@@Ronin_Ryder mistyped optimus pride
Amazing review! I had no idea about the adjustable hangers. I’d love to know if your wheel has Smart BMS like ewheels says. 9:55 Can not be ignored, I know it’s FW related but that is terrifying and they should fix ASAP!
It doesn't have smart bms.
Need more 50s content!
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geepers, that bug is fooken crazy! Was hoping it would be a little faster than the Lynx , but 55mph is about the same. Wait till you put a street tire on the Lynx, really makes it a lot better.
Im sure with more room space I could hit 60mph but the beeping seemed to say otherwise at my weight 😉
yes I've hit 60mph on the Lynx (nongps), guess its a matter of how much into your beeps you can go before cutout...not the funnest game to play @@Ronin_Ryder
💯Crazy thing is that i heard nothing. I was trying to push more, its only on video that i noticed the beeps 😅
Wait until you find out about overreporting ;)
hi ronin, great vid as always.. in terms of performance and ride feel disregarding batt.. this or lynx?
Thanks. I prefer the cpro 50s performance wise. But the lynx is nice too, depends on your use case
got it! thanks ronin!
what time was the range test results? did i miss it?
Good info to know! Thank you!
Peak cinematography Ronin! How does the ride-feel compare to the Lynx? Do you have more confidence in Leaperkim vs Begode?
I prefer the Begode ride feel but Leaperkim is awesome too. Thank you!
Nice review. Did you raise or lower the pedals from the stock position?
Lowered👍
Awesome review as always Bro 👌. I'm getting this wheel 😮
Nice! Enjoy your new wheel!
Nice review as usual !
Thanks!!
This is going to make it a tough decision between the CP 50S and the Lynx. Great Job!
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U will get more range out of this wheel then the lynx and it's just as fast as the lynx
@@tremartin4727 Is it as nimble and does is accelerate as fast as the Lynx?
Pretty much
This wheel has a much bigger batter then the lynx but the lynx weighs alot less
I'm glad I wasn't stuck holding that wheel while it wouldn't stop 🙂
That was quite the workout. Btw did you notice the sound after i switched off/on the wheel following that freespin?
@@Ronin_Ryder LOL - that's funny. Until you mentioned it I did not notice the startup music - it's muted on your wheel 🙂
I have no idea why they are bringing back that nikola intro sound on their new wheels 😉
I think the lynx is a much higher quality of wheel, I ride a commander pro standard version and love it! I trail ride often with it. But its durability and quality of certain components is poor. Also some design choices is also sub optimal. Overall great wheel, but far from perfect, I feel like it could be perfect if more thought and testing went into place
Great video as always. What lights are used on the Commander Pro? Shred lights?
Some aliexpress lights.
Thank you sir! @@Ronin_Ryder
@@Ronin_Ryderwhat's the name of those lights you got from Ali express
I honestly don't remember
What pads do you have and where could I buy them. Cheers
Just customs ones i printed.
hi, I saw marty video commander pro GT and he mentioned the handles have sharp edges, does the commander pro 50s handles easy to grip or also sharp edges
They are easy to grip especially the rear one. You can see how i could hold that 1min freespin with the handles😉
Salut Ronin, super revue! Merci
J aimerais bien rouler a new york moi aussi.
Je suis quebecois
Les riders Canadiens passent regulierement (Toronto).
Hows the turning with the wider C40 rim? Is it similar to the EX30? Without the tire spacers I hated the wider rim.
Exact same EX30 rim. You get used to it!
Those pads are dope how can I get a set of those for my lynx
Euc.ema on IG. They are the best indeed.
What is the limiting factor when doing the max speed runs? Will the wheel tilt back dynamically to limit your push or what?
The wheel will go as long as you push it and there's power available. There's a tiltback limit you can set at a specific value, that wasn't set here.
@@Ronin_Ryder So why are you not able to push past 53/
is the ex30 motor and rim? dont like blue rim on it , red its better . anyway ,it looking good ,it seem a solid wheel and a powerful beast.great job Ronin!
Thanks!
I wish the Commander Mini 50s also gets field weakening
Hi Ronin. I now have a CP 50S. When setting the Magnetic Field Weakening to 9 in the Begode app, it says “set successful” but it still shows 0. Did this many times, still stayed at 0. Is there another setting I need to change?
Set your wheel in race mode
@@Ronin_Ryder After setting it in racing mode, still can’t set magnetic field weakening. Always goes back to 0.
I expect the next James Bond movie will feature a race on one of these things......will they male a passenger carrying one?
this is an amazing wheel but i'm wondering, was that speed run using magnetic weakening? i would love to see you do a video of the cp50s doing speed runs to 75%pwm on 0%, 40%, and 90% field weakening to see the speed increase
It was under max magnetic weakening. I had 2 beeps which are equivalent to 75% pwm for 54.6mph.
@@Ronin_Ryder oh okay! can you do a speed run with 0% please? also was wondering how you felt about the tire
Hsiang will get the wheel. Im done with the testing. Sorry!
How many miles on a full charge?
Merci brother!!🙏
Cool video!
Thanks!! 🙏😉
Hey Ronin, nice video, I think you should consider start using GPS when measuring speed, new models from begode are overreporting speed more and more for every new model, EX30 overreports around 13%, the ET Max overreports as much as 15% (!), making it difficult and pointless to compare between brands or even models from the same brand, for example the Lynx overreports only around 5%, that is a 10% difference in what the wheel reports compared to GPS. Then everyone is comparing these numbers which aren't even correct to begin with. If GPS speed is used instead we get a fair and accurate comparison between different models and brands and no fantasy numbers.
Thank you, makes sense but there's a catch: im doing this inside a tunnel. Have you watched that gt pro video reporting 100mph gps under a tunnel? Gps won't work...Euc world wouldn't report either tracking under the cutout tunnel.
@@Ronin_Ryder that's a challenge, no other stretches of long straight roads outside that's not too trafficed?
In nyc, traffic is terrible. We have highways but i don't feel like beta testing there🤣 otherwise i would need to take the train for 1h to reach remote areas.
@@Ronin_Ryderthat sucks, another approach is to note the overreporting value in the video and then it's up to the viewer to do the math
@@Ronin_Ryder also in EUC World and I think maybe Darknessbot (?) you can put a speed correction value to compensate directly in the app
Thanks again
🙏🙏
What’s the estimated range on this vehicle?
Great review
Thanks for watching!!
Power pads?)
How does the handling compare to Lynx?
It rides better than the lynx imo.
@@Ronin_Rydercan this wheel handle offroading trail rides
As much as an ex30 or any heavy wheel
what helmet are you wearing?
This might be the wheel to turn me to begode side 😅
Great choice!
EB really needs bigger/better displays
Yes, but they already have a good one on the mini
is it an upgrade from the Comander pro?
Yes
Où pouvons-nous nous procurer tes powerpads stp ?
Contact euc.ema on IG.
-900wh on the Lynx is a buzzkill for me, shorter range and less sustained higher speed riding.
Does This have speakers?
Yes sir
@@Ronin_Ryderhow's the speaker volume. Much bass?
93 mph 🤯🤯🤯🤯
🧢
GOOD GRAVY! I know I'm out of my depth commenting here but I just happened to see this video and my mind was boggled! How in the hell does this machine prevent the Rider forward momentum launching him or her like a projectile if and when you would have to make an emergency stop at high speed? I really don't understand the physics that are going on here!
🤏🧠💥🫨💦
(╯°□°）╯︵ 🛞
Need to learn how to ride sir.
@@Ronin_Ryder well yes obviously, though I doubt it would benefit myself or anyone else, I'm not clumsy but I've never had any natural balancing ability. When I was growing up we used the term "Fu★k Footed" which wasn't derogatory it just means someone who's brain decides to use a non-dominant hand or foot for tasks that should be done by dominant appendages, a bit like unconscious ambidexterity. Ie when I was in the US army back in the 90s I caught a lot of hell in the beginning from drill sergeants because I shouldered a rifle with my left arm and used my left hand on the trigger though I am a right-handed person, similarly I ride a skateboard with the opposite foot in other words I write a skateboard like a left-handed person I shoot a weapon like a left-handed person and though I am actually an expert shot I am not so lucky when it comes to other things like skateboarding surfing roller skating rollerblading jumping bikes etc.
someone explain why they cant release a 3600 Watt Hour 168 Volt wheel?
168v isn't compatible with 3600wh. its either 3000wh or 4400wh.
@@Ronin_RyderThankyou so much
@@Ronin_Ryder It is not true. You can build battery form 5p40s cels eg 3700Wh. I expect that you will tell me that the battery pack must consist of an even number of parralel brachnes in order to ensure symetrical division of weight around EUC. But Begode/EB did clever decision and they divide 40s battery in to 2x20s. In this config you will have 10 battery packs, 5 of them in each side of EUC.
@@tomashorazny7364 if you want to go the geek route and go deep in details fine, but i just did a sum up and went straight to the point instead.
@@Tongan_BossToko wherebouts you from. Im in New Zealand. Which EUC you ride?
I currently have a EX.N HS. Looking to buy this new Commander Pro 50s
so little space at the sides of the tire. What if a rock gets stuck there at high speed..
It won't
Yea, I might be only one guy but The fact that they couldn’t even color match the rim just says so much about a company’s respect for the customer.
A bit Lazy from them im not gonna lie, but then you stop caring about it after a few days
Would have looked so good with the matching blue
@@Ronin_RyderI agree I’m just salty because I’ll more than likely be buying it this year lol
First 🎉😂
Ahah ok!
Well, I suppose half a motorcycle is better than no motorcycle.
💯
top speed runs are silly - people are not cruising at 55mph this is irrelevant
Irrelevant for people who enjoy slow speeds only. But there's a variety of riders, let alone the headroom evidence it shows as well. Thanks for watching!
Have you met dawn lol
Thanks again