'There's a sport system that failed her': Tessa Virtue on Kamila Valieva | Player's Own Voice
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2024
- In our interview with Tessa Virtue we touched on safe sport and she spoke to how her and partner Scott Moir exited the sport system relatively unscathed, but as the topic turned to the doping scandal from Beijing 2022 surrounding Russian athlete Kamila Valieva, Virtue expressed sadness for the athlete and the system she found herself in.
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Most people in the west first saw her at the Olympics and didn’t know anything about her history. She didn’t just pop out of no where as this drugged up wunderkindt fully programmed for Olympic gold. She was amazing at age 9, incredible by 11 and world class at 13-14. She had been doing many of the elements that amazed the world for years and her unhesitant style was present from a very early age. She was raised to follow her coaches. She didn’t end up the way she did being a maverick. She was an innocent - compliant and teachable. Or she never would have made it to where she did. I’ve raised a skater and they do what they’re told or they’re not successful. Kamila likely knew nothing about what happened to her. But she’s paying the price. And so are we. She’s a once in a generation talent that never needed boosting and her legacy has been sullied. It’s a tragedy.
Eteri should have been sacked. But Russia won't ever get rid of her
@@bobababy6089 Sack Eteri Tutberidze? Do you know who is she toi open your mouth on Eteri? Clown
@@bobababy6089глупости это !!! Вопрос были это ее пробы , задержка результатов до Олимпиады и предъявление обвинения сразу после командного соревнования !!!! Вся картина происходящего говорит о намеренном избавления конкурента и лишения золота .
@@bobababy6089 they probably won’t because Eteri brought Russia into the global top leagues in terms of figure skating. Yes, her techniques were questionable and there is always the debate about 15 being too young of an age for Olympic skaters, but Eteri’s girls were the big gainers in Olympic tallies.
So it is highly unlikely that Russia would do something about her.
@@SouryaDPI find the international ice-skating contests have been remarkably less attractive without the athletes from Russia. So miss their talents and amazing performance.
This is a very compassionate take. Thank you, ladies.
I’m surprised to hear someone finally say something compassionate about Valieva’s situation ❤
I don't think that's really true. Many have shown compassion toward her. But that doesn't mean they think she should avoid the consequences or not be banned. Most athletes asked about this have taken on the responsibility of not doping from a younger age than 15.
Ей подсыпали эту чёртову таблетку , чтобы не заняла первое место .
Все пробы чистые кроме той которая потерялась .и всегда она чистая . Сегодня нет Камилы на соревнованиях вернулись даже те кто уже не надеялся занять первое место ,убрали сильного соперника , которая была и занимала первое место своим талантом , по выступлениям по техники это все видно , Камила лучшая что было в фигурном катание , вот и надо найти кто подсыпал эту чёртову таблетку .
@@quintupleaxel глупости не видите общую картину!!! Хотя что удивляться , люди на западе имеют память как у рыбок 😊
@@unitkresh9298 You seem to forget that since 2002, Russia has had 45 Olympic medals stripped due to doping. That's more than the next 4 countries combined! Don't ever accuse the West of having a bad memory when it comes to cheating in sports. 😂
people need to remember she's a child and was 15 when it all happened.
I was forced at 15 to be an adult for less if she s a child im an astronaut 😂
Then please do share your Olympic performance@@magical_universe793
@@magical_universe793she was a child.
yes but she was when it happened now she is what 17? and well she still thinks ita ok or good to be standing next to putin and make statements that make her look less than good .
@@ileana823100 someone doesn’t understand how russia works.
Kamila has been tested monthly if not weekly for years. Interesting there was only one positive test.
definitely a set up. they waited until the olympics to put that information out.
It didn't fail her, it betrayed her. "Failed" implies an oopsie, we dropped the ball. They did this to her intentionally. Bunch of criminals.
Ohh, every Tessa interview is such a beautiful thing to hear, she is such a role model, pure class
Not to mention she's beautiful too. I miss her skating
Камилочка ЛУЧШАЯ из ЛУЧШИХ ❤ ❤ ❤
I am sure that Kamila Valieva was framed with this dirty sample. Kamila is a unique figure skater, there has never been one like her and there will never be one like her, her talent and beauty are given by God. The competitors had too much envy for this beautiful skater. No matter what anyone says, Kamila Valieva is the number 1 figure skater in the world! The amazing beauty of movements, lines, even the turn of Camila’s head is special, every swing of her hands to the tips of her fingers is full of art and beauty! Unique data simply. I love Kamila Valieva ❤❤❤
Wut happen to her
Not framed. Perhaps, given the drug by adults, but not framed.
She didn't dispute the result of the failed test, didn't ask for the other sample to be tested. That's not the actions of someone who is totally innocent in this.
How she took those substances in the first place is the question. Who got them for her?
Framed by her coaches? Yes. Framed by her own country? Yes. They gave her doping so she could get them a medal and they never disproved that
@@quintupleaxel they found doping in her December blood (with a delay by the Swedish lab). after that, she got tested negative in January and February... How would she ask for another sample to be tested if she was clean in that time?
Indeed, compassionate, thank you for that, Tessa! Many world-class skaters just post stories celebrating Kamila's sentence without even deep diving into it. The only thing I don't get is... what's the deal with 60 supplements if they are allowed? why taking allowed vitamins is a problem? She probably eats better/healthier than most Americans (without any offense, I live here myself), and we don't know how many allowed supplements other skaters take, because nobody writes in New York Times about them.
A healthy body is buildt to function without any supplements at all. Provided you get a healthy diet you might need one or two supplements if you use your body a lot. Being that young and an athlete 60 supplements are insane. I'd say that is also an indication that the athletes aren't allowed to eat healthy - if they need that amount of supplements.
@@tovep9573диета с нагрузками уже говорит о поддержке здоровья . Вы просто увидили цифру 60 и это для вас кажется много . Хотя не знаете что за препораты , витамины и добавки!!! Треть из списка только мази для мышц и все что с этим связано !!! Еще более десятка лекарство от простуды, гриппа и насморка . Потом добавки , витамины , заменители и все нет большой цифры 60 😂😂😂.
Вы такие глупые что верити СМИ и чтновникам 💩💩💩
How many meds or supplements do you take a day? I can't even think of 60 supplements that exist. And then the question is, why? Was she not eating and needed everything through supplements?
@@L.Spencer I live in New York and buy regular supplements. I take 6 pills every day and 2 powders. I have counted and they have 40+ supplements overall. starting with simple vitamins like C, B12, D, E, A, etc. , macronutrients like forms of protein, and then going to micronutrients like basic magnesium, omega, zinc, folic acid, ferum, many more and even urinary mix with some stuff called D-Mannose and plenty of berries extracts ( I don't even know if these are considered supplements, but if yes, it counts 8 more supplements on top of 40)... and other vitamin mixes that you might not be interested to know of haha =) 1 pill does not equal 1 supplement.
And I just work out 2 times a week =))) I believe, unfortunately, any professional sport can be harmful, so I presume there is not harm in taking supplements if they are allowed. After all, if we trust WADA, they should allow the supplements that do not create unfair competition.
Also, we don't know how many allowed supplements other skaters have. I'd be curious to know just for comparison. Otherwise it all looks like a marketing trick from the prosecution.
@L.Spencer why are you turning everything upside down? Why mislead people? 60 drugs, or rather 55, were prescribed over 2 years, she did not take all 60 drugs every day, you should understand this if you have a sound mind! These 55 drugs were not found in one sample, but were prescribed to her over two years of her hard physical training!
What’s worse is , I feel like her coaches are using her ban as a chance to sweep her under the rug, and hope everyone forgets about her. I saw an interview with Kamila recently where she mentions none of her teammates keeping in contact with her. The wrong person is being punished in this situation . I hope the coaches are banned for life.
Coaches? Are you dumb? do you even know who are her coaches to open your mouth on them?
Oh no, prayers for peace for Kamila . I can only imagine being THAT young a going through this. 🕊️🤲🏿
well she is also onenof the only skaters in her group to stand next to putin more than once in the past year ,
"If it were Simone Biles she would be diagnosed with 'twisties', a mental condition that affected her body perception on air."
unfortunate for Valieva, she didn't even need drug for excellency bcos she's worked hard through the years.. i hope the russian athletes can come back bcos they're so good and they can challenge the rest to be good too
When the story keeps changing in regards to supplements, you can bet that it was all a setup to remove Kamila permanently.
It honestly doesn’t make sense, she was so talented but they think that people will believe it when they change the story a million times. First they said it was grandpa water, then they said it was ice cream and tea…
@MelonLord don't believe gossip and rumors
It was her story though...
Don’t believe gossips! She HAD to come up with the story. She couldn’t say “I don’t know how it got into my blood” because WADA or CAS wouldn’t take it. She was time pressured by the upcoming individual champ and didn’t have time to investigate what had really happened.
And in legal doping sports practice, the first version is very important and you better stick to it. The fact that they only revealed her December blood test during the Olympics didn’t give her any time. She had to make her best guess in a couple of days or leave the Olympics and run the analysis with her lawyers at home, which she should have probably done as we now understand ..
So I don’t believe in conspiracy, but this story has too many suspicious coincidences.
@@quintupleaxelher story was first the glass of liquid from grandpa and then the cake from grandpa . Which is not compelling I agree, but read my comment below in case you want to understand better why it happened
They're talking about this like it's the entire sport, when the problem is uniquely Russian at the moment. That poor girl is just a cog in a machine, and she was lifted up by that machine because of her talent, and then sacrificed by the machine because of their corruption.
Stockholm's Karolinska University Hospital Laboratory in Sweeden delayed results. Have they received fines or bans?
Great question!
Of course not. WADA will not punish its own people, especially since the sample was tested 9 times to find something, but it didn’t work, so they came up with a new research method and tested it on Kamila’s sample and wow...they immediately found what they were looking for - trimetazidine. Such manipulations with the sample of a brilliant figure skater are very suspicious. They had no right to use a new method that had not been tested and approved by the commission earlier. WADA plays an important role in this story and their behavior is too suspicious!
And this is one of the many reasons why people love Tessa Virtue.
Ни когда в истории ФК , так не наказывали не одну спортсменку . Вердикт наказания был озвучен ещё на Олимпиаде, а это уже говорит о преступления!!! Мок слили информацию в СМИ, чтобы устроить травлю и отвести взгляд на подстроенное обвинение !!! 😠😠😠😠
Многие понимают что в этой истории полно грязной политики и преступления мок ,вада !!! Но будут все замалчивать , хотя прекрасно все понимают 💩💩💩
I don‘t get it, she‘s a minor and not responsible for the failure of her coach or whoever is responsible for her doping, it wasn‘t her as she is not an adult!!!!!
When she wins, the coach takes all the credit, when she‘s caught w an illegal substance, it‘s supposed to be her fault and she gets the blame? Come on, please…🤬
You don’t understand, Kamila Valieva is Russian! Now, if she had been like the 15-year-old Jamaican swimmer Mackenzie Headley and trained in the USA, she would have been acquitted and given a warning without the medals being cancelled. And she is also 15 years old and she passed 2 positive doping tests at intervals of 3 months, which indicates systematic doping. And also 5 were found in Mackenzie’s samples! prohibited substances and this is not some meaningless trimetazidine, the effectiveness of which has not been proven, but very serious drugs, including highly effective ligandrol, used to quickly gain lean muscle mass and power. But Mackenzie was not disqualified for two dirty samples and 5 types of doping! And Valieva, for one sample contaminated with trimetazidine, 1 sample of 1 prohibited substance, received a disqualification for 4 years, she was deprived of all titles and all medals were taken away, she was forced to return the prize money, training and competitions were banned, that is, her career was destroyed! But don’t forget the main thing that sports and politics are different things 😅😅 Nazism as it is!
"Compassion" seems to be only expected of those reacting to the story, not those who were actually involved which seems crazy to me.
Where was the compassion from the people and the system directly around her when they encouraged her down this path, instead of sending her home when the story broke?
WADA must be punished for the delay in the results of the test and its announcement at the Olympics. Before the official announcement, WADA gave away the figure skater’s confidentiality, which caused persecution of the 15-year-old girl at the Olympics itself and in the mass media, only the blind and deaf did not comment on this story. The rights of a minor athlete were violated, and neither WADA nor. The IOC was not punished for this. But the CAS punished the protected person in the most severe way, disqualifying her for 4 years and canceling all her achievements and medals since December 2021. Why is WADA ISU ISU so thirsty for the blood of a 15-year-old figure skater? I think it’s all about politics, because Kamila is Russian. This is confirmed by the fact that another 15-year-old Jamaican athlete, who trained in the USA and in two of whose samples 5 types of doping were found, including hormonal ones, which provide physical advantages in competitions, was not punished at all, but only given a warning. What is this different attitude towards athletes called? This is Nazism as it is
Are athletes educated by WADA or their country's anti doping agency about how to avoid banned substances? Maybe there needs to be a video shown to every athlete that participates about the ethics of doping, translated into every language.
This is a great point. I have 0 knowledge if such videos exist available to all sportsmen.... would be curious to know!
TESSA = ELEGANCE, CLASS, GOLD!
Kamila Valiva's birthday is April 26, 2006. According to Russian laws, adulthood occurs at 18 years of age. Today I appealed to the Presidential Commissioner for Children’s Rights so that her institute contacts the Prosecutor General’s Office to conduct an investigation into whether a crime has been committed against Kamila. There is undoubtedly a corpus delicti under several qualifications of the criminal code
А где перевод.
The coaches are to blame
The IOC is an American garbage dump. The most interesting thing is that at the same competitions, no one saw harassment from an American figure skater to a Russian figure skater girl, and he was not only not suspended, but not even convicted. The Valieva scandal was completely ordered by the United States, and if the test results had arrived on time, they could have been challenged or rechecked.
Нечего передовать если нет перевода.Чушь
The Russian system and the coaching team is 100% at fault.
Your American system and the your Western politics and sport officials is 100 percent at fault! And this fact whole world knows!
Why aren’t the American or Norwegian systems to blame, whose athletes take all the titles while being stuffed with legal doping, so to speak? After all, everyone knows that, for example, almost all Norwegian skiers are asthmatics, or that Simone Biles cannot perform without her medicinal artillery. But this doesn’t stop them from winning medals and titles for many decades? Let's really be for clean sport and send all asthmatics and those suffering from lack of attention to competitions for the disabled! Let healthy athletes compete with each other, and disabled people with therapeutic exceptions compete with each other!
i think she failed herself when she took the illegal substances. And her parents and of course the team around her.
You listen too much to MSM propaganda and you believe it to be true.
Please inform yourself about "the illegal substance" Trimethasidin. Does it make sense of using it as a drug for an olympic athlete? Don't be thoughtful, while judging. It is a big play.
@@user-kt5gq5xr7s Please inform yourself and learn how to spell "trimetazidine" correctly. Secondly, it's a drug that increases blood flow to and from the heart. This substance could help with any kind of endurance and aerobic activity.
Just explore the case... looks like you just read the headline, sorry.
I wonder what you have to say about therapeutic exclusion. Do you think it’s fair when athletes who take legal doping compete with clean athletes? In my opinion this is cheating and athletes with legal doping should compete in disabled competitions! For example, I don’t trust that they actually need this doping for health, and not to improve their physical capabilities in competitions. Professional sports are not a place for sick people who need to take strong drugs. Why is WADA IOC ISU not concerned about the health of these athletes suffering from illnesses who are forced to take doping agents, because in this way they harm their body, raping it with physical overload? After all, WADA says that they are very concerned about the health of athletes
My face hurts from smiling so much!
No doubt whatsoever she is a talented skater. Unfortunately she comes out of a serially corrupt country wrt drugs and performance enhancement. Russia has a long history of this in almost every sport. One can have empathy but alas one can’t change the results of a drug test unless you’re Russian.
You listen too much to MSM propaganda and you believe it to be true.
Don't forget the "long history of this" (drugs in sport), that have USA, Norway, Germany.
This is the main problem with the words “sport without politics”😂 Why is there so much talk about the problem of doping in Russia? Where did this problem go in the USA, Canada, Germany, Spain? Or in these countries, athletes were put on “permitted doping”, having issued therapeutic exceptions for them? Is this a solution to the doping problem in the USA? Great idea guys 😅😅
I wonder if the samples of athletes from the USA, Canada, Germany, France are also checked for a month and a half, when the maximum time is 20 days? And their samples are also tested nine to ten times to find at least something? And if they can’t find it, then they urgently come up with a new testing method that has not been used anywhere before? Or was it only for Kamila that WADA employees showed so much honor? Especially when it comes to outstanding athletes! How is Simone Biles' sample tested? Or the Williams sisters, and are the Norwegian team being tested at all? And then there are rumors that they don’t check their underage athletes for lopping at all. And be sure to break down the samples of these athletes into atoms so that the wider world community knows how many medications they took over the past two years!
Thank you so much Tessa, probably the most human comment since the beginning of this scandal 🫶
WHICH "SPORT SYSTEM"
Are you blaming Eteri Tutberidze personally? HUH? Do you know who is she?
may be take your dumb system betrayed her statement back?
yes inwould blame eteri herself as well as every other adult near kamila, especially also her family sho came up with the dumb lie of her drinking from her grandpas waterglas
О чём вы говорите.Это просто потому что она РУССКАЯ.Посмотрите на сестер Вильямс и норвежских биатлонистов которые просто ЛЕЧАТСЯ.Просто тупая зависть потому что РУССКИЕ самые ЛУЧШИЕ
😂😂😂😂🤡
@@almastebele4564What's so funny? Kamila was, is and will be the 2022 Olympic Figure Skating Champion. And also the Champion of Russia and Europe 2022 in figure skating. And the fact that she was banned for 4 years illegally is the fault of your own IOC, WADA, USADA, ISU and CAS! 😡🤬😡🤬😰😨😥😓
@@sergeygolodnenko.95 my own?? lmfao i didnt know i rule over these organizations. but even YOUR OWN tatiana tarasova blamed eteri for giving doping to kamila lol, and a lot of russians in the comments agreed with her. you have always played dirty, it's your ends that count, not means.
their career is 2 years max, all of them have the same identical program, and then they retire at 18 for severe back injury. they aren't the best, they are just abused children.