@@donniesanectdollsandmore389 Facts, right?? We need a biopic. It can be about Supremes but with the focus on Flo, her family, her upbringing and her struggles.
This was part of the last great anthology TV series, ABC Stage 67. It aired March 2, 1967, one week before my 18th birthday. I saw almost every episode of the series. They ranged from science fiction to musical comedy to one-person hour long monologues to drama. Wonderful, wonderful stuff. Cancelled after one season. Several of the shows are here on RUclips, but I really long to see one called "The People Trap" which may be lost, not preserved. The songs sung by the Supremes and the Mamas and the Papas on this show appeared as parts of their albums about the same time. Don't know about the other performances.
Part of the Mamas and the Papas contract for recording material for this program was to release one as a radio single. They used "Glad to be Unhappy", and released it waiting for the 4th album.
@@daxshaw8781 I can only find a Paley Center for Media in New York, but they do indeed have "The People Trap" available for viewing on demand at their NYC museum.
We all fell in love with The Supremes, then when Diana Ross left the supremes the other girls were great but the originals will always be in our hearts.
The original Supremes: Mary, Dianna and Florence were the best, the replacement Supremes were a knock off in my opinion and you could tell the difference.
The tracks sound better as Ross solos. The vocal parts by the back up Supremes are pure Lawrence Welk. Corny. Listen to Cass and Michelle harmonize with the Papas for example. Unfortunately they couldn't harmonize like the other Motown back up singers
@@taddyd1 The actual album released by the Supremes was NOT a Ross solo ... no idea of what you mean. It was a true Supremes recording with all three girls. Very apparent if you've ever listened to the original record. It was a great album and introduced a lot of young people to Rodgers and Hart. Pretty cool.
The Mama's and the Papa's are a showcase in originality and their vocal arrangements are just iconic. They were called Diana Ross & the Supremes and here you can see why. Petula Clark is an excellent singer.
This is an amazing show! How wonderful that it wasn't interupted with introductions, commentary, or biographical notes. Just pure music. The medley with Pet Clark and Bobby Darin includes two songs I have never heard and I thought I knew *every* R & Hart song!
It truly was. Twenty-seven episodes of the series ABC Stage 67 were filmed but only twenty-six were broadcast. The excluded one, featuring Bob Dylan, was deemed to be too controversial and too "new wave" for American audiences. Several of the shows are here on RUclips, but the majority seem not to have been preserved and are presumed lost forever. I was 18 years old then, and loved the whole series.
SOOOOO good to see Flo proudly in the lineup. No offense to Cindy (I liked her well enough) but THIS is the group we all fell in love with. It's a shame, Berry didn't - or couldn't - recognize this. He always thought it was all due to Diana, be he was wrong. It was the GROUP - Mary, Diane and FLO - who TOGETHER made them so extraordinary.
@njplr Oh, I think that (deep down) Berry knew that the three original Supremes were a magic act that complemented each other vocally. Otherwise he wouldn't have signed them. It was his later belief that Ross was so much more than Flo and Mary that led to the disassociating 'back up' from lead. Upon Mary's death he did acknowledge her talent and input to Motown.
The Mamas and the Papas look like three of the most awkward people on earth - Cass has the most grace of any of them, but luckily they had their wonderful voices (and I never tire of watching Margot Robbie . . . I mean Michelle). I love that though - nowadays we expect singer/instrumentalist/jugglers and we don’t tolerate imperfections much.
The Mamas and Papas really brought a new dimension to the standards without sacrificing any of the angst or wit of Larenz Harts' lyrics. Incredible recordings. Apparently Bobby hadn't learned to swing yet and Diana was dragged down by her pointless back up singers and their tinny arrangements. Pet sounded great.
To each his own as they say. I enjoyed the way each artist presented their own interpretation of these classic songs. Especially the Supremes who delivered all the songs with such class and style.
I beg to differ! THE SUPREMES were the headliners..........they even released an album called, "Supremes Sing Rodgers and Hart." The Mamas and Papas weren't even featured in the finale. The Mamas and Papas were a flash in the pan. Knock off the revisionist history!
@@kurtsupreme I love the Supremes and have every one of their albums, 1963 through 1977. But in terms of raw vocal talent, the Mama's &Papa's were unequaled. The Supremes, especially Diana, had to be very carefully coached and rehearsed in order to sound legit. Not so with Cass and her gang. And the Mama's &, Papa's chose to be a flash in the pan, breaking up in 1969 was their own decision.
@@malcolmmarshall5946 If you do have every SUPREMES album, as you claim, you should be ashamed of yourself mentioning The Mamas and Papas in the same breath as THE SUPREMES! Raw talent? The talent in the Mamas and Papas was Cass (vocally) and John (musically). Michele was eye candy and Denny was a mediocre singer. With 12 number one records and the full muscle of Holland, Dozier, and Holland, THE SUPREMES were the most successful American vocal group in musical history. The Mamas and Papas couldn't touch the hems of the SUPREMES' gowns. Plus, audibly, The Mamas and Papas were a studio sound for the most part and visually, they always looked like they needed a BATH! I will say one thing on their behalf: "Sing For Your Supper" "Dream A Little Dream," and "I Call Your Name" were PERFECT songs to showcase the group and Cass's wonderful voice. Beyond that? You've lost me when you compare them with THE SUPREMES!
Not quite...for some reason...Mary and Florence's voices were prerecorded, but Diana is the only only actually singing live. But it was common practice for all Motown groups, that very often for TV shows? Only the lead was sung live while the background vocals were pre-recorded.
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Great lineup. Petula Clark's voice has that effortless quality. The Supremes' were so versatile and sound terrific. Mamas and Papas are joyous.
Flo had such a beautiful smile.
I Agree with Ya Paul 💯
Love and miss Ya FLO and MARY ❤️🙏❤️🎶⭐🌹⭐🌹
Rest In Peace Florence Ballard. Your Fanbase continues to grow and grow. We love and miss you!
FOR REAL!!!!
@@donniesanectdollsandmore389 Facts, right?? We need a biopic. It can be about Supremes but with the focus on Flo, her family, her upbringing and her struggles.
AMEN TO THAT!!!!!@@ceeceetracey9839
Supremes' harmonies are sublime here. Their three voices had a lot of reflective qualities which come out here.
This 1967 special is distinguished by the swinging big band arrangements by the great Quincy Jones driving the Count Basie band.
ABSOLUTE ELEGANCE AND QUALITY!!!!!!!
Fabulous Bobby Darin !
Fantastic Diana Ross & The Supremes !
..........no Diana Ross and The Supremes here! These were THE SUPREMES! Knock of the Diane Ross revisionist history!
What great Performances and Not only in red or blue and without flying Cameras.
This was part of the last great anthology TV series, ABC Stage 67. It aired March 2, 1967, one week before my 18th birthday. I saw almost every episode of the series. They ranged from science fiction to musical comedy to one-person hour long monologues to drama. Wonderful, wonderful stuff. Cancelled after one season. Several of the shows are here on RUclips, but I really long to see one called "The People Trap" which may be lost, not preserved. The songs sung by the Supremes and the Mamas and the Papas on this show appeared as parts of their albums about the same time. Don't know about the other performances.
The only copy of The People Trap I know of is at Paley Center in Los Angeles. I also long to see it
Part of the Mamas and the Papas contract for recording material for this program was to release one as a radio single. They used "Glad to be Unhappy", and released it waiting for the 4th album.
@@daxshaw8781 I can only find a Paley Center for Media in New York, but they do indeed have "The People Trap" available for viewing on demand at their NYC museum.
We all fell in love with The Supremes, then when Diana Ross left the supremes the other girls were great but the originals will always be in our hearts.
The original Supremes: Mary, Dianna and Florence were the best, the replacement Supremes were a knock off in my opinion and you could tell the difference.
I don't know why, but I can always pick out Mary's voice in the mix. She sounds fantastic!
The tracks sound better as Ross solos. The vocal parts by the back up Supremes are pure Lawrence Welk. Corny. Listen to Cass and Michelle harmonize with the Papas for example. Unfortunately they couldn't harmonize like the other Motown back up singers
Lol me too. I always notice her vocals
@@taddyd1 The actual album released by the Supremes was NOT a Ross solo ... no idea of what you mean. It was a true Supremes recording with all three girls. Very apparent if you've ever listened to the original record.
It was a great album and introduced a lot of young people to Rodgers and Hart. Pretty cool.
@@nighthawk4878 The amateurish back singers here are a distraction to Ross even if they were called Supremes.
The timbre and tone of her voice was so beautiful
The Mama's and the Papa's are a showcase in originality and their vocal arrangements are just iconic. They were called Diana Ross & the Supremes and here you can see why. Petula Clark is an excellent singer.
Bull Shit.
They were still the Supremes at this point. In every meaning of the word.
That last duet - Bobby and Petula - is absolutely GRAND PRIZE.
This is an amazing show! How wonderful that it wasn't interupted with introductions, commentary, or biographical notes. Just pure music. The medley with Pet Clark and Bobby Darin includes two songs I have never heard and I thought I knew *every* R & Hart song!
Bobby Darin the voice 50 and 60 King 👏🎤🎼🙏🕴🌻
Rodgers and Hart were a great team when Larry was on-job. This is such nostagia.
WOW!!! THIS LOOKS AMAZING!!!!
It truly was. Twenty-seven episodes of the series ABC Stage 67 were filmed but only twenty-six were broadcast. The excluded one, featuring Bob Dylan, was deemed to be too controversial and too "new wave" for American audiences. Several of the shows are here on RUclips, but the majority seem not to have been preserved and are presumed lost forever. I was 18 years old then, and loved the whole series.
Ilona, where on Earth did you find this gem???
SOOOOO good to see Flo proudly in the lineup. No offense to Cindy (I liked her well enough) but THIS is the group we all fell in love with. It's a shame, Berry didn't - or couldn't - recognize this. He always thought it was all due to Diana, be he was wrong. It was the GROUP - Mary, Diane and FLO - who TOGETHER made them so extraordinary.
@njplr Oh, I think that (deep down) Berry knew that the three original Supremes were a magic act that complemented each other vocally. Otherwise he wouldn't have signed them. It was his later belief that Ross was so much more than Flo and Mary that led to the disassociating 'back up' from lead. Upon Mary's death he did acknowledge her talent and input to Motown.
The Mamas and the Papas look like three of the most awkward people on earth - Cass has the most grace of any of them, but luckily they had their wonderful voices (and I never tire of watching Margot Robbie . . . I mean Michelle). I love that though - nowadays we expect singer/instrumentalist/jugglers and we don’t tolerate imperfections much.
Wow you are so right on point, they ARE awkward up there, but yes, somehow it only makes them more endearing;
And this was way before Postmodern Juke box's genre bending.
#JeffPiegari this is so awesome
#JeffPiegari I'm watching it
Luv Bobby Darin!
Did anyone notice that Petula messed up the lyrics at the end of "Where or When"?
I love how The Supremes sing that, should have been a release
I believe "Manhattan" is listed as a duet with Ballard and Ross. I never knew that. And "Falling in Love With Love" is a duet with Wilson and Ross.
Fantastic is the word but where are the two greatest timeless songs of Rodgers and Hart: My Funny Valentine, and Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered.
3:12 when The Supremes hit the stage....MAGIC HAPPENS!!!!!!!!
Anymore please please
Where is the intro
Did anyone else notice that in the first Mamas & Papas set, Mama Cass's hands are blue?
Put videos with Martha and Vandellas :) :) i love.
Pedro Pedro uchoa was
At the end of the first Mamas & Papas set, does the guy squeeze Mama Cass's nose?
Denny does, yes.
Bobby Darin trashed "I Could Write a Book".
was that choral group the mike curb congregation by any chance?
No, it's The Doodletown Pipers
@@markfadness9204 thanx :)
The Mamas and Papas really brought a new dimension to the standards without sacrificing any of the angst or wit of Larenz Harts' lyrics.
Incredible recordings.
Apparently Bobby hadn't learned to swing yet and Diana was dragged down by her pointless back up singers and their tinny arrangements.
Pet sounded great.
Yawn go back under the bridge troll
No accounting for taste. The Supremes were all class and style and the biggest act on that stage at the time. Those girls NAILED IT.
@@leerevelle9844 You said that right.
How could you listen to what happens at 28:03 and make an asinine remark like that?
Mamas and Papa's blew everyone else off the stage, they made Darin, Supremes and Pet Clark sound pedestrian and ordinary.
To each his own as they say. I enjoyed the way each artist presented their own interpretation of these classic songs.
Especially the Supremes who delivered all the songs with such class and style.
In 1967 Petula won a n International Award for record sales ..she is legendary and still performing after 80 years in show business ..
I beg to differ! THE SUPREMES were the headliners..........they even released an album called, "Supremes Sing Rodgers and Hart." The Mamas and Papas weren't even featured in the finale. The Mamas and Papas were a flash in the pan. Knock off the revisionist history!
@@kurtsupreme I love the Supremes and have every one of their albums, 1963 through 1977. But in terms of raw vocal talent, the Mama's &Papa's were unequaled. The Supremes, especially Diana, had to be very carefully coached and rehearsed in order to sound legit. Not so with Cass and her gang. And the Mama's &, Papa's chose to be a flash in the pan, breaking up in 1969 was their own decision.
@@malcolmmarshall5946 If you do have every SUPREMES album, as you claim, you should be ashamed of yourself mentioning The Mamas and Papas in the same breath as THE SUPREMES! Raw talent? The talent in the Mamas and Papas was Cass (vocally) and John (musically). Michele was eye candy and Denny was a mediocre singer. With 12 number one records and the full muscle of Holland, Dozier, and Holland, THE SUPREMES were the most successful American vocal group in musical history. The Mamas and Papas couldn't touch the hems of the SUPREMES' gowns. Plus, audibly, The Mamas and Papas were a studio sound for the most part and visually, they always looked like they needed a BATH! I will say one thing on their behalf: "Sing For Your Supper" "Dream A Little Dream," and "I Call Your Name" were PERFECT songs to showcase the group and Cass's wonderful voice. Beyond that? You've lost me when you compare them with THE SUPREMES!
Supremes are definitely lip synching here.
Not quite...for some reason...Mary and Florence's voices were prerecorded, but Diana is the only only actually singing live. But it was common practice for all Motown groups, that very often for TV shows? Only the lead was sung live while the background vocals were pre-recorded.
THAT'S WHY THE LADY IS A TRUMP!!!
#JeffPiegari this is so awesome