@@Andro_el_de_memes Yea that's what i thought..but i think the pressure and environment makes it naturally there.. i couldn't find a vid to explain it but I read it somewhere
Friend, you don’t have to go to Mars to witness something huge! Take a deep breath. This is so far the only place in the universe where the atmosphere is breathable. That is huge!
@@Supernova-270 yes! It is good to explore Mars and beyond. Musk wants to have 1,000,000 humans there by 2050. That most likely will never happen. It all looks good on paper :)
Imagine living on titan and walking outside your house and seeing Saturn in the sky, i wonder how large it would look realistically. That would be a change of scenery for sure.
@@Nuggie.. good morning. The universe is not infinite. That theory was discarded back in the 1920s. It had a beginning, the Big Bang, and therefore it is expanding not static as once was thought (Einstein-just to name one) He later had to admit his error :)
@@bodhi7205 it is actually a joke, because of the memes with America searching for oil and Nestlé searching for water. I am excited too for a space race to Titan, but i think it is better that we first get bases on the moon and mars up and Running, and then go to Titan
Tbh healthy competition is nothing but amazing. It only accelerates technological advancements. Imagine if nasa didn’t have any competition would they really be in the stages they were?
I prefer living on a planet with a 100% habitable atmosphere. They, the so called experts, say that soon earth will be uninhabitable, Solution: colonize a planet that is 100% uninhabitable. Brilliant!
@NoobyestOnYT You don't need to terraform mars to make it livable, infact setting up regular colony hubs would be quicker, just as effective, cheaper, and less long terms and likely to go unstable. We will probably all see mars slowly become a city if you are so far younger than maybe 30 or perhaps even 60.
The title is "Why terraforming Mars is a big mistake" but it just comes down to hideously expensive, difficult, and we don't have the technology to do it yet. It's still a heckuva' lot easier than terraforming Venus.
There are some people that would like us to harbor all the free iron we can and canabalize every spare planet for a Dyson sphere. Personally, I feel like there are so many other stars in the sky, god damn, Dyson sphere those and leave this system alone.
@@rylieharris2901 True, it might just simply be an inevitability I suppose. As an origin system though, I’d hope we’d find that whatever effect got us started from this arrangement, is not something unique and hopefully shared by many systems anyways… before we end up dissolving it all for resources.
If we have the technology to terraform mars into a earth like habitable planet, we should have the technology to turn earth back to its best form - Neil degrasse Tyson
@@alanbriv Thats, incorrect, we actually have already an idea how to resolve issue of lack of magnetosphere AND atmospheric pressure AND temperature, placing magnetic shield at L1 point would shield mars from solar winds, without solar winds atmoshpere would start to rebuild itself . Simulations indicate that within years, the planet would be able to achieve half the atmospheric pressure of Earth. Without solar winds stripping away at the planet, frozen carbon dioxide at the ice caps on either pole would begin to sublimate (change from a solid into a gas) and warm the equator. Ice caps would begin to melt to form an ocean. Building such shield wouldnt be easy but it is not impossible.
@@Culaio wouldn’t a process like that take thousands of years and even if we’re somehow successful how are we going to deal with foreign bacteria that will bring about new diseases when we still struggle with our own here on earth…
@@erathen6311 We sped up a process that should've taken hundreds of years on Earth (outside of any major changes) so why not Mars. Also, as far as we know right now there is no life on Mars. Any diseases that come from Mars will have evolved from diseases that originally came from Earth and by the time that is even a possibility we'd be long gone.
It's a mistake because there are other candidates in our solar system (Venus and Titan) that require less fantastic technological inventions (no magnetosphere and no real atmosphere on Mars) with which to possibly complete a terraforming project.
Mercury is too close to the Sun, Venus’ atmosphere is so filled with CO2 that it’s far hotter than Mercury, Titan and other moons might work but even still the travel distance is much greater than Mars. We’re lucky enough to even have a world like Mars nearby
Is it any different then being the child of immigrants?? Just say hey our species is from Earth but we made Mars livable for us so we live here now too. We go on vacation to visit your grandma on earth every now and then
And don’t you dare show him or her pictures of Disney World, Hawaii, Montana, Pacific Ocean, Smokey Mountains, picnics, sporting events, cruise liners etc. What evil did you do, daddy, to deserve this?
@@Blueslyfox friend, only scientists and engineers will go to Mars. I like it that way. I prefer a planet with a habitable, not man made, atmosphere . Where do you go for a weekend outing on Mars?
I beg to differ. No matter how overwhelming the challenges may be, the only certain mistake we can do is to believe we can rely on living solely on Earth for an undetermined period of time. I´d rather die trying rather than perishing on Earth arms crossed, thinking any attempt of colonizing Mars might be a ´mistake´.
@@CiphersVII In the correct words, "we ran out of resources on earth because we can't gain back all the energy we converted to heat and friction, so we need to go colonize Mars to use its resources to keep living.
This is exciting. Im a space nerd and proud of it haha. Wish we could have the tech to extend our lives indefinitely so I can see how far humanity goes. 🙌
If we didn't die of old age, there would be mass starvation, unless everyone agrees to stop making babies, which is something that would be opposed with extreme violence.
Imagine spending centuries trying to terraform mars and living in domes Only to get hit by a solar flare and losing every electronical appliance and knowing your dead cause you can't repair your oxygen machines in time
Good point. The video doesn't show underground cities, which would be essential given the radiation. Same for the Moon. You bet that once the first few exploration missions get done, the first real mission to start preparations for colonization will involve sending mining and digging equipment to Mars, plus a few large dish antennas.
@@dtvjho Mars already has a partial atmosphere, one of the first moves would be to improve that atmosphere. If we were able to get an atmosphere as thick as earth's, radiation would be a lesser problem.
Of course we don't have the technology to do this as of now, but theoretically, given the right time and equipment, we could terraform both Venus and Mars. Since Venus needs to loose some of it's atmosphere and Mars needs to gain a lot of atmospheric pressure (and heat) we could potentially take some of Venus' atmosphere and use it to assist with terraforming Mars, as it would increase both the atmospheric pressure of Mars, and it's heat due to most of Venus' atmosphere being comprised of greenhouse gasses. Remember that this is not a full solution for either planets though, as this process would only require a small portion of Venus' atmosphere also, CO₂ and H₂SO₄ does not make a breathable atmosphere. This would likely do close to nothing to assist in the terraforming of Venus, and only provide a temporary solution to Mars' atmospheric pressure and heat problems. Realistically, this probably wouldn't actually happen, it is just a theory (an interesting one, in my opinion) but perhaps it could occur that Venus' atmosphere may be used in a similar manner to how I have explained in the event that we as a species do decide to make the attempt to colonize and terraform it.
Who said we can’t fix our own planet? And what makes you think Earth was broken to begin with? Extinction events occur every 26 - 30 million years on Earth. The main purpose of colonizing another planet is to avoid complete extinction of the human race.
@@TheBrandicus Old Indian proverb: "When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money."
@@TheBrandicus Okay, so you think that we can completely change the atmosphere, shape another planet to our desire, but we can't stop an extinction level event on our own planet?
Many people may not realize that the red coloration predominating on the Martian surface is due to Iron Oxides. Imagine the quantities of oxygen that could potentially be liberated from those oxides without depleting precious reserves of water.
Will someone PLEASE tell me how we're planning on keeping an atmosphere on a planet without a magnetosphere? I know it's possible to terraform Mars given enough time and technology but seriously, how is this any different than trying to inflate a balloon with a hole in it? ...and don't even start with the balloon reasoning, I know it's garbage but hopefully I don't just get a bunch of responses picking that really crappy analogy apart. Won't any attempt we make at releasing atmospheric gases and whatever else just be blown away by the sun faster than we can produce them?
We don't have the technology atm. To be on Mars now will require domes or subsurface dwellings. But! That doesn't mean we won't have the technology in the future. At one time, we didn't think *any* atmosphere could hang on to the planet - that it would all be blown away. Yet it's there, and even produces clouds by that mountain peak in the southern region, and sandstorms... I'm more concerned about the temperature. Night side of Mars is not survivable without shelter. Personally, I'm curious what "spinning up" the planet would do. Maybe even creating a condition where more atmosphere is possible? Maybe hold more heat? I'm kinda psyched about that 13mi crater on the moon. We don't have the technology to build a dome they say... but if we wanted it bad enough, and threw enough money at it, of course it could be done.
Personally, I think it would be a waste of energy and resources to generate a breathable atmosphere on Mars. Better to Para-terraform, by covering the surface with habitable buildings and to continually expand the living area like this. It would probably be like living in a giant shopping mall. As for the planet's atmosphere, if you really want to change it, just focus on atmospheric pressure and temperature, instead of breathability, then maybe you can accomplish it by pumping out a bunch of CFCs. Many Fluorocarbons are much heavier molecules than CO2, and so will more easily be retained in the atmosphere and contribute more towards atmospheric pressure. Along with this they trap heat more easily. This all means that you would need much less of them than CO2 or oxygen in order to create and retain your atmosphere.
The only related proposal I've seen was placing a magnetic field at Mars L1 Lagrange point. In addition to preserving the atmosphere, some possible benefits: Deceased radiation. Natural build up of atmosphere from gasses escaping the crust. Naturally thickening atmosphere would trigger greenhouse effect melting the ice and CO2 at the polls. There was a proposal to do the same thing for Earth. I think they estimated the cost at $100 Billion, which seems extremely low.
@@nolan4339 I agree, and there are non-cost benefits. The thin atmosphere is easier to protect from Martian dust storms because the wind doesn't have as much mass, just the dust - the light rovers and landers weren't sent tumbling and their instruments snapped off by 70 MPH winds.
@@1SCme 100 billion!? That's funny. The James Webb telescope comes to mind. "Alright gang, all we need is about 100 mill and two years or so..." 15 years and billions later...
You actually only need to build a thin mirror the size of a few kilometers or a series of smaller mirrors at the L1 point at Venus to effectively make a good solar mirror.
lol that would be difficult , there is a very simple way to do the same just differently . just need something between sun and Venus to block the light or reduce it .
Not really. Venus days is about 243 earth days.Venus rotation is too slow, it will fry everything at the side facing to the sun and at the dark side it will be very cold.
I don't know why when people discuss Titon, they always fail to mention the massive amounts of radiation Saturn produces. I also wonder how the gravity waves would affect the oceans of water.
@@puttigandhireddy It's inevitable unfortunately. We can take advantage of that however to become an advanced species and break the limits of our galaxy and eventually the universe.
@@puttigandhireddy Not really. That's just the self-projection of our species current destructive behavior. Maybe super advanced AI finds us interesting enough to simply _leave alone, observe our progress, and gather data._ A great experiment they'll be grateful to have the chance to observe, _documenting the rise and eventual end of an organically sentient species._ *Maybe they're already doing that.*
Your vids have so many commercials it keeps me from drifting off or getting distracted, every time I turn around I'm suddenly listening to someone shouting about diet plans
Introducing oxygen into Titan's atmosphere, an atmosphere that rains liquid methane onto land which appears to be covered in some kind of hydrocarbon sludge, and contains lakes of liquid methane? What could possibly go wrong?
I don't understand the idea behind it. If we have the technology to "terra-form" mars, why don't we use that same technology to work here on a planet that has everything and more abundant than Mars? We can't even stop the ever growing deserts. Why do we have to go to a planet to do something unimaginaly more difficult?
Most deserts are shrinking due to global warming (causing more rain) and CO2 addition to the atmosphere promoting plant growth. If a desert is growing, it's usually due to extracting excessive amounts of riverwater and groundwater for human use.
main reason - in case of cosmic disaster/event - gamma burst / rogue black hole / super nova explosion / meteors / rogue planets - we cant hold all eggs in one basket... besides earth is gone - it cannot be saved - what u, me or other 7.6bil other ppl thinks means nothing we have 0 saying in future of this planet... most of ppl think that if we start drive electric cars it would help and yet if tomorrow all the cars/trucks would disappear from this planet it would have almost 0 impact...
Imagine spending trillions on bettering earth and all of that will be irrelevant when an asteroid makes a sequel to the dinosaurs extinction. Plus tell me which sounds more appealing: humans make life interplanetary maybe even go to different solar systems, explore the universe. Or just use the already slowly crippling earth until we run out of resources or wait for a asteroid to wipe us out. Number 2 sounds sad doesn’t it? Now you tell me what you think.
Already have, there are so many resources on other planets that would help the earth, the moon, which is super close, has so many resources which would help us to go green, second it would boost the economy, creating more jobs as the space race roars to life once more
U missed the whole point ma dude... We want to colonize other planets so that when Earth becomes uninhabitable ( yes that will eventually happen but not in our lifetimes ) we would not go extinct.
it really isn't either-or, space travel might be more in the news lately, but it's not like money is being diverted away from charity and environmental work for space exploration. Our issue with our planet is just inefficiency, space travel is all about efficiency and we can learn a lot from it.
@@AnonYmous-hu7jo actually there is already technology to protect the planet from asteroids. launching a missile in space at the object will actually change its trajectory by a significant amount. it doesn't even have to be destroyed
The thing is with Titan, people have to move there eventually when the sun expanded so much that Earth would be too hot to live on and Titan would be the perfect temperature for melting ice.
@@adamboudhraa4490 There is a good chance we will, in a billion years technology would have evolved exponentially and things like interplanetary and even interstellar travel may become a common thing, provided some mass destruction doesn't take place...
@@midnightstories6619 billion years 😂😂😂 we lucky if we make it another 100 years, if every species lived forever then dinosaurs or mammoth or megalodon would still be with us today but no 😅we will disappear too just like them
@@adamboudhraa4490 But they didn't have one thing that makes us different, intelligence. The animals didn't have technology to help them survive. Even if some apocalypse happens on earth, there is a high chance that a few humans will surely not die. I agree we will too disappear but, not before a million years at least...
I've been saying for years that Venus is really the best option here. It's closer, its mass and gravity are only slightly less than that of Earth's, and as for the magnetosphere, Venus likely lacks one of those because of a lack of convection in its molten core due to a uniform temperature from the outer to inner radius, as opposed to Mars which has already completely solidified. I'm not sure if significantly cooling Venus' atmosphere would be enough to produce a convection effect all the way down through the mantle, but it seems to me to be a no-brainer compared to Mars, where we'd have to somehow liquify the core again. Cooling would not, in fact, necessitate some silly megastructure as this video is proposing. You'd need a big array of mirrors in orbit, which is certainly much more achievable and realistic with today's technology. We'd probably need to spin it up a bit, but if we're proposing throwing asteroids/comets around for all of these terraforming projects anyway, I don't see how that's much of a downside. Really wish that Musk and co would get off the Mars train, but hey, I'm just some guy on the internet, right?
Surface temparature on Venus is 900 degree celcius it's not possible to cool down a planet artificially however it's possible to heat up a planet either slowly using reflective panels in the host planet orbit it will catch the otherwise sunrays that go astray and focus it on the planet or the fast way by dropping thermonuclear weapons on the true magnetic poles . And it's wrong , Venus is not in the habitable zone ,Venus is not in the Goldilocks . On the contrary Jupiter's moon Europa has a liquid water underground ocean covered by ice on top about 10 miles thick , under that liquid ocean , so the best option is Mars and the second best option is Europa
Attempting to terraform Mars would be a huge gamble until we understand what happened to Mars previously. I have heard that Mars once had water and an atmosphere. We need to understand what happened to change that in order to make a better determination as to whether terraforming would be a viable possibility.
I’m willing to bet an asteroid is the culprit, judging by the lopsidedness and largest volcano in the solar system. Were talking about about an impact strong enough to severally damage the core, and an outlet needed for all that pressure. Olympus Mons in turn super heating the atmosphere and cooking up the moisture turning Mars into a mini-Venus and darkening the sky. This super dense atmosphere now allowing more heat transfer from ground outward, cooling much of the mantle and radiating that heat into space but also sheering any warming that could return from the sun. After hundreds millions of years however, eventually not enough heat from mantle anymore being transferred and the planet began its long bounce-back into eternal nuclear winter. At this point, the effects of the lack of dynamo thanks to the cooldown of the mantle, now allowing solar winds to slowly kick away atmosphere till it became what we see to this day.
@@MarsStarcruiser Very informative. So what measures could humans take to counteract these factors? Or we even capable yet of taking those countermeasures?
@@curtisrodriguez938 strangely enough, asteroid impacts now would be more helpful than bad. Mars no longer has enough unsolidified mantle or super thick atmosphere, to radiate heat very quickly from the ground anymore and further asteroid impacts would start storing alot of heat back in the planet again. Thats why many terraforming strategy ideas have little fear of problems associated with orbital bombardment in its current state. There are many ways we can counter asteroid impacts however, say after terraforming such as deflection or simply harvesting. We do have the base technologies associated, just would need implementation of such tech on large enough scale is all. Some people “hyper” worried(excessive) about solar winds depleting atmosphere and undoing terraforming efforts again but their worries are unreasonable. If we were ever achieve similar atmospheric pressure as Earth, on Mars. Even if say we didn’t employ magnetic shield deflection at L1 Lagrange to counter solar wind, it was estimated that it was still take in excess of a million years for the solar winds to bring martian atmosphere back to a point where planet was no longer habitable anymore. Yes solar winds did slowly eat away the atmosphere before but over the course of hundreds of millions of years. We could do alot and maybe inadvertently fix many of the planets internal problems with the kind of heat our activity would bring to Mars over that million years, that claims of terraforming being “pointless because no dynamo,” are greatly exaggerated
@@jdrhea6712Really? With that kind of pessimistic thinking, we would not have the sciences of geology or astronomy which do tell us what happened before.
Hope you don't do shit and destroy Earth that would be hypocritical. Although I liked both Mars and Earth. Since new Science for Mars could be very well used also for Earth like advanced vertical farming and so on.
@@pauloazuela8488 Naw man, I love earth and I want to take care of it. The best I can while still being practical. I'm also a part of my schools environmental clubs and activist organisation (they're friendly and don't the sorta shit things that people are doing like blocking roads and harassment).
12 minutes, 17 seconds saved. Mars has no magnetic field, so terraforming is an exercise in futility. Solar winds & radiation will strip away the atmosphere faster than we could make it.
"If we want to colonize other worlds we HAVE to terraform." Lol. I will never understand why humans think space needs to be nice and comfy for them to be a thing worth being interested in. It's all so smug and self-absorbed. I hate terraforming as a concept. It's like people think they are owed the universe bending for them.
Hey Destiny. I just wanted to say your videos are spectacular. If you're looking for an idea for a new video, I'm not sure but I would imagine that a lot of people would very much enjoy watching a video about building a substantial moon from asteroid material for mars to help warm the core.
Mars once had life on it (maybe) but got wiped out but that time Earth didn't so imagine if Martians did the same things we did like thinking of making earth habitable earth once was covered in Lava.
This right here, this comment literally makes no sense. First of all if we even start terraforming mars we will have the technology to save earth already. So most likely if we even got to the point of terraforming mars, earth would be fine. If you can terraform a planet you can terraform the Earth. Checkmate.
Are you dumb? The planet has been hit by asteroids more times than your mom has gone down on your dad, it has experienced extinction events numerous times as well. The planet will be fine.
No it's not funny.. We have no other option but to consider terraforming. Earth won't be safe forever, and in my opinion its better to go out there and exploit the other planets for resources for further exploration of space.
And how are we gonna save the planet you mean? The only threat the planet is facing in the future is the sun's expansion. All life on the planet could die off and the planet would still be fine. The planet doesn't rely it's existence on the life growing on it. Life do however rely on habitable planets which is the whole reason for terraforming and just traveling beyond our solar system. We're not aiming for space just so we can abandon an old planet for something new and cool. We're trying to make sure humans live longer than the age of our star and to do that we gotta terraform. Seriously. Why do people keep thinking "saving the planet only" to be the solution for mankind? If you ignore leaving the planet you're gonna make sure future people don't get to either, which results in a warm crusty hug from the sun in the end. But at least the planet was green for a while, right? How nice. For you. And your grandkids. For people faaar in the future though? Nah. They get to then watch the ocean dry out. Life being cooked by a burning radiating red giant. Their kids being the last generation maybe. If only they had thought about leaving the planet at some point... Ah well. Bye life on earth. Bye the whole earth as well actually. Now that's funny!
@@mandocuevas7592 the deepest hole on earth doesn't even come close scratching the surface of Earth. Why do you expect we could dig a 100 times deeper one on another planet?
ok i havent watched it yet but i want to predict the answer first: "because we should focus on fixing earth before we go somewhere else" or something stupid like that.
Everyone glosses over another issue on making Mars atmosphere. Olympus Mons extends too high in the martian orbit meaning that when creating a denser atmosphere the friction will start to grind on it causing it to begin to rip at the atmosphere until the volcano is reduced enough in size. You don't need mirrors 4 times larger than Venus as you can find the perfect placement between Venus and the sun where the light will be blocked and the mirror will be its minimal size.
Can you guys explain how the rotational speed affects the mass of an object? So far what I have learned it's the mass of an object which gives it its gravitational pull. Since the rotational speed does not affect the mass, why would the interaction between earth and moon be any different from what it is now if the moon was spinning faster?
We live on a planet where we have perfectly evolved to live, and we are in the process of rending it inhabitable through climate change. So what makes us think we can travel millions of miles to live on a planet that is hostile to organic life ?
Climate change is natural. Were just making it worse. The earth will throw us into an ice age like it has done 3 times before when the world's got to hot naturally
Im glad you mentioned about the magnetosphere and gravity because i believe these are the biggest problems to overcome. Two options for the magnetosphere - 1) nuke one of the two moons out of orbit to use the gravitational potential energy to try to cause some reaction that will activate the lower mantle and core to reactivate its magnetosphere. 2) a more promising solution is to produce a large enough magnet in orbit to produce the magnetosphere. Though a magnet of this size with the means to create the magnetosphere seems out of reach, there are large iron and nickel based M-type asteroids in the belt (such as Psyche-16) that could potentially be knocked into mars' orbit with a bit of orbital mechanics. Only with a magnetosphere I would then think about converting the atmosphere. As for the gravity side, you can potentially increase the gravity if you slow the rotation of mars. This reduces the centripetal force and the radius of mars would decrease F= GM/r^2. But I personally think the secret to gravity is probably in particle physics. Only speculating but it would be interesting to see if gravity isn't just caused by mass but from certain mesons or bosons or something. This might mean that you could make materials with extra gravity such as tiles to walk on but thats just a bit of a wield speculation and i don't know much about particle physics :P. What would you do with the carbon monoxide after you get the oxygen? its a complete waste product.
Doesnt matter in the distant future no one can survive on earth . Trying to save the planet from humans only to die by the collision of universes and the finishing touch, the sun..
I don't agree, no. I'm still waiting for a citation and a reason to agree. I can be convinced, but I think there's a lot to be overcome before I would consider that as even coming close to being a priority for humanity. Honestly, this isn't something regular people think too much about, if at all, so it's kind of a lame sweeping generalization to begin with. We have bigger problems than to pontificate on some theoretical tera forming possibilities that we don't have the technology or resources to utilize. I could go on, but honestly, do I even have to?
@Menacing Hat to people like you, any new ideas are weird, crazy, insane or delusional or whatever you like to call it, ex. there were times that the horses are irreplaceable and a running machine was crazy. there were times that the earth was the center of the universe not so long ago, inventors of the airplanes look very stupid. but look at us now.
Cheaper, but time consuming. In case you haven't noticed, there aren't a lot of habitable worlds nearby, and by nearby I mean those that we can get to within a few centuries
Lol cheaper? have you already constructed such a ark? We are able to terraform we do it on earth all the time but I never heard anybody talking about sending colonists to other stars or even to decent planets from other stars you obviously have no idea about the distances involved Pretty sure we are able to terraform an other planet within the solar system in some decades maybe even now with huge amount of money
Scientists be talking about terraforming other planets while they still can't terraform Earth. The planet isn't suddenly becoming uninhabitable, it's doing it slowly over time.
one day, human will so atone for the planet earth that the only chance for salvation will be terraforming Mars. and to be honest, I really don't want to become witness this event ...
I agree, Idc if God created this world of ours but it's not my fault that earth is being destroyed because of our/we human's mistakes. It's better to have hope in terraforming another planet so we could live on, rather slowly dying on earth (I still have hope left on reviving earth but so far from what I'm witnessing well... it looks like it's impossible) (Rather accepting My fate I would prefer doing everything that I can in order to advance our technology so we could have place to live on)
If we finally managed to make a spaceship that is capable of light speed..then baby I am going to be the new Francis Drake and explore other galaxies for other life forms. Or just for the fun
@@caliburbermuda5422 yeah, its just very hive mind. With all of space at our disposal, no one talks about finding their own island and living there til they die. Everyone talks about staying with the collective...its interesting
Titan would most definitely be the best option especially since it’s the least destructive in these hypotheses, I mean come on the risk of not only a nuclear winter and minor to major loss of polar materials on Mars, the destruction of Venuses surface and the possibility of worsening the lava flow and seismic activity on Venus pushing the hypothesized time frame wayyy out of boundaries (just think of the mass extinction of dinosaurs after just ONE good sized asteroid) and the mirror hypothesis on titan is wayyy less intrusive and far less destructive and damaging to the moon definitely solidifies that for me !! 🙂
Washing my black hoodie, purple bed sheet, grey bed sheet, my ouija/ upside star skull beanie hat, and my black hooded robe in the washing machine, its vibrating loudly and violently 😂. *Few minutes later* well not any more. Its rinsing now. That's while I watch vids.
9:30 I saw somewhere that on a terraformed Venus, the 50 deg N or S latitude will get the same insolation (amount of sunlight) as the equator on Earth. Overall the planet will remain hotter, but the poles will be habitable, depending on the winds.
@@aunphilversum3204 bro he's right going to Mars might sound cool but terraforming a planet takes hundreds of years now we have enough problems on our planet don't we? Let's fix them first, and u should learn to respect other people's opinions.
Given how tragically bad we are at getting things right, letting science have at our planet on a global level doesn't give much in the way of warm fuzzies. Tell you what, go start with China, we'll wait on your progress report.🤣
"Its not possible with current tech" i feel like these videos just completely disregard the fact that millions of scientists and researchers are keenly aware of the limitations and thats exactly why tech advances to overcome
I don’t see what this has to do with the statement “not possible with our current tech” or how that statement disregards scientists and engineers in any way please elaborate
For an earthling to go to mars to live where the gravity is only something like 1/10th of earths would mean shortening one’s life by decades with a lot of physical suffering towards and at the end .
Every American blindly believes that accent to be scientific fact. Now, a southern or Appalachian accent, would be discarded if it even discovered the cure for a rare deadly disease.
"Saturn's moon has more petroleum than Earth"
*America Invades Saturn's Moon*
Yes, to restore democracy and western values.
Dino juice in space?
Wouldn't that mean that animals lived in there?
@@Andro_el_de_memes Yea that's what i thought..but i think the pressure and environment makes it naturally there.. i couldn't find a vid to explain it but I read it somewhere
With weapons of mass destruction
I wasnt alive when humans set foot on the moon so hurry up and get us to Mars so I can witness something huge in my life time
Friend, you don’t have to go to Mars to witness something huge! Take a deep breath. This is so far the only place in the universe where the atmosphere is breathable. That is huge!
You Don't have to wait to long my friend according to space x humans might land on Mars by 2025
@@Supernova-270 yes! It is good to explore Mars and beyond. Musk wants to have 1,000,000 humans there by 2050. That most likely will never happen. It all looks good on paper :)
Do it youself , much more huge
@@Supernova-270 not gonna happen in this century
Like damn, imagine terraforming titan, imagine how beautiful it is to see saturn that up close. How surreal.
it would be freaking cold on Titan.
I 10/10 would not recommend anyone to live there
In Dead Space, a fragment of Titan was colonized 👀
Only in your dreams.
@@nwabuezeozuzu6370 heater
Snap Outta it . Too many sci fi movies for you
Imagine living on titan and walking outside your house and seeing Saturn in the sky, i wonder how large it would look realistically. That would be a change of scenery for sure.
About 7.6 times the apparent diameter of the Moon as seen from here. Not sky-filling, but it would certainly get your attention.
@@stevenscott2136 "...would certainly get your attention."
Saturn: "Psst! Hey, Buddy. Wanna buy some rings?"
@@NarwahlGaming Saturn doesn’t have rings that’s Jupiter
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**suspicious** 🤔
@@calum55555 Are you sure about that?
meanwhile in alternate universe:
"why Colonizing earth was a Gigantic mistake!"
Top 10 moments where humans almost caught us !!!
@@CLASHROYALE-mn5wj lol
Just in: Humans living in the alternate universe have decided not to terraform their Mars.
🤣🤣WTH
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Looking at how uninhabitable other planets are, it's pretty amazing to think about how special earth is.
Yes it is, Mike :)
Isn't there Like bilion earth Like planets we just cant Reach any with our savege technology
@@michaekrynicki8330 In theory, yes, but we've never actually been to any of these planets. We don't know for sure if they are habitable.
Knowing that the universe is infinite, there is definitely other planets with life
@@Nuggie.. good morning. The universe is not infinite. That theory was discarded back in the 1920s. It had a beginning, the Big Bang, and therefore it is expanding not static as once was thought (Einstein-just to name one) He later had to admit his error :)
"If we can terraform mars to look like earth, we can terraform earth to look like earth".. Some smart guy
Earth already looks like earth, no matter how destroyed earth gets, earth will always be earth because earth is 100% earth
@@monotonexylophone1623 missed the point
@@luxeayt6694 no i didn't
@@luxeayt6694 no no, he’s got a point
@@sbirk3946 I'm pretty sure the point is that we can stop climate change instead of going to mars and terraforming it but ok.
20 years ago : "they are (aliens) planning to invades our planet"
Today : we are planning on invading other planet
Lol
Lollll
The government the whole time
" we are the aliens and were already on other planets"
@@billgates8258 lol
Lol
"We will send the first manned mission to Mars in 2020"
"Make that 2025"
"Jkjk, 2030s"
-NASA
The aliens told us to wait a few years.
@@christinearmington yep they have aliens on earth, it's a secret of course because their ethier experimenting or working with them
@@dropxng Next month the Pentagon will reveal their existence. Kinda excited to be honest
Osama Barrack cut nasa budget. Thank him..
At the 30's we'll only see Drones in titan
When America and Nestlé are hearing about that oil and water on that Saturn moon, a new space race is going to begin
Titan? I haven't watched all of this.
its gonna be exciting! i hope that i will still be alive when a new space race happens
@@bodhi7205 it is actually a joke, because of the memes with America searching for oil and Nestlé searching for water.
I am excited too for a space race to Titan, but i think it is better that we first get bases on the moon and mars up and Running, and then go to Titan
Tbh healthy competition is nothing but amazing. It only accelerates technological advancements. Imagine if nasa didn’t have any competition would they really be in the stages they were?
@@jasperscheerlinck8170 We aren’t getting to titan any time soon
crazy to think that we are the first humans who will witness the colonization of another planet..
Maybe a colony of half a dozen people (scientists). You’ll be long gone before that happens.
@@alanbriv you too.
@@alanbriv no I won't I live forever when we change human parts to robot parts
I prefer living on a planet with a 100% habitable atmosphere. They, the so called experts, say that soon earth will be uninhabitable, Solution: colonize a planet that is 100% uninhabitable.
Brilliant!
SpaceCinema I love ur videos
I want to be able to watch this video again in like 30 years from now, and see how much technology has developed
save to watch later
Wish I could witness this in my lifetime ):
🥺😗
You will.
how old are you?
You must be really old if you are worrying about that
@NoobyestOnYT You don't need to terraform mars to make it livable, infact setting up regular colony hubs would be quicker, just as effective, cheaper, and less long terms and likely to go unstable. We will probably all see mars slowly become a city if you are so far younger than maybe 30 or perhaps even 60.
"Why terraforming Mars is a big mistake, But here's other options that would require us to build structures larger than the planets themselves."
Yeah, this guys arguments are pretty stupid.
The title is "Why terraforming Mars is a big mistake" but it just comes down to hideously expensive, difficult, and we don't have the technology to do it yet. It's still a heckuva' lot easier than terraforming Venus.
There are some people that would like us to harbor all the free iron we can and canabalize every spare planet for a Dyson sphere. Personally, I feel like there are so many other stars in the sky, god damn, Dyson sphere those and leave this system alone.
@@MarsStarcruiser I agree, but logistically it would be more efficient to do it somewhere we already have the infrastructure to begin construction.
@@rylieharris2901 True, it might just simply be an inevitability I suppose. As an origin system though, I’d hope we’d find that whatever effect got us started from this arrangement, is not something unique and hopefully shared by many systems anyways… before we end up dissolving it all for resources.
If we have the technology to terraform mars into a earth like habitable planet, we should have the technology to turn earth back to its best form - Neil degrasse Tyson
There is no technology that can change the human heart. Everything we touch we corrupt
Mr. Tyson, the chances of terraforming Mars are slim to none. It would be easier to find an honest politician
@@alanbriv Thats, incorrect, we actually have already an idea how to resolve issue of lack of magnetosphere AND atmospheric pressure AND temperature, placing magnetic shield at L1 point would shield mars from solar winds, without solar winds atmoshpere would start to rebuild itself . Simulations indicate that within years, the planet would be able to achieve half the atmospheric pressure of Earth. Without solar winds stripping away at the planet, frozen carbon dioxide at the ice caps on either pole would begin to sublimate (change from a solid into a gas) and warm the equator. Ice caps would begin to melt to form an ocean.
Building such shield wouldnt be easy but it is not impossible.
@@Culaio wouldn’t a process like that take thousands of years and even if we’re somehow successful how are we going to deal with foreign bacteria that will bring about new diseases when we still struggle with our own here on earth…
@@erathen6311 We sped up a process that should've taken hundreds of years on Earth (outside of any major changes) so why not Mars. Also, as far as we know right now there is no life on Mars. Any diseases that come from Mars will have evolved from diseases that originally came from Earth and by the time that is even a possibility we'd be long gone.
I didn’t hear why terraforming Mars is a “big mistake.” Just how it’s hard to do
It's a mistake because there are other candidates in our solar system (Venus and Titan) that require less fantastic technological inventions (no magnetosphere and no real atmosphere on Mars) with which to possibly complete a terraforming project.
@@jerseyse410 isn't Venus too close to the Sun?
@@Im_Rainrot boss i doubt any of this is possible in a millenia
Mercury is too close to the Sun, Venus’ atmosphere is so filled with CO2 that it’s far hotter than Mercury, Titan and other moons might work but even still the travel distance is much greater than Mars.
We’re lucky enough to even have a world like Mars nearby
and good luck even getting to titan quickly, Saturn is a billion miles from earth. It would take many years to get there
I can't imagine the first human to be born and raised on a different planet. how do you begin to explain to him where he's from
Is it any different then being the child of immigrants?? Just say hey our species is from Earth but we made Mars livable for us so we live here now too. We go on vacation to visit your grandma on earth every now and then
And don’t you dare show him or her pictures of Disney World, Hawaii, Montana, Pacific Ocean, Smokey Mountains, picnics, sporting events, cruise liners etc. What evil did you do, daddy, to deserve this?
@@Blueslyfox friend, only scientists and engineers will go to Mars. I like it that way.
I prefer a planet with a habitable, not man made, atmosphere .
Where do you go for a weekend outing on Mars?
He would be a Martian. The earth is not his home.
@@Dzeividz that’s right! He’d have to get a visa or passport. I’ve never trusted Martians
I beg to differ. No matter how overwhelming the challenges may be, the only certain mistake we can do is to believe we can rely on living solely on Earth for an undetermined period of time. I´d rather die trying rather than perishing on Earth arms crossed, thinking any attempt of colonizing Mars might be a ´mistake´.
in other words, "we already ruined the earth, lets ruin mars!"
@@CiphersVII well yeah, any form of life is like bacteria, it needs to find new resources to use up if it wants to survive, just how life is
@@CiphersVII
In the correct words, "we ran out of resources on earth because we can't gain back all the energy we converted to heat and friction, so we need to go colonize Mars to use its resources to keep living.
@@CiphersVII “lets ruin mars” do you really think mars is not already ruined and terraforming it would ruin it?
Best bet is merging consciousness with robot bodies. Cheaper and more realistic than terraforming an entire planet.
This is exciting. Im a space nerd and proud of it haha. Wish we could have the tech to extend our lives indefinitely so I can see how far humanity goes. 🙌
Same
It will all go below the ground eventually
@@moeron9172 everything will
Whats emoji?
If we didn't die of old age, there would be mass starvation, unless everyone agrees to stop making babies, which is something that would be opposed with extreme violence.
Imagine spending centuries trying to terraform mars and living in domes
Only to get hit by a solar flare and losing every electronical appliance and knowing your dead cause you can't repair your oxygen machines in time
Good point. The video doesn't show underground cities, which would be essential given the radiation. Same for the Moon. You bet that once the first few exploration missions get done, the first real mission to start preparations for colonization will involve sending mining and digging equipment to Mars, plus a few large dish antennas.
@@dtvjho Mars already has a partial atmosphere, one of the first moves would be to improve that atmosphere. If we were able to get an atmosphere as thick as earth's, radiation would be a lesser problem.
@@xandermacdonald6062 Agreed.
They’ll cross that bridge when it collapses on them :)
@@xandermacdonald6062 you need to get there to build that atmosphere
Words cannot explain how glad i am to have found this channel. I love space stuff so much.
6:22 is that lady just going about her business on the beach topples?
I have same question. I thought it was around her neck or something but where will it connect?
Yes
i think i connects in the front.
it goes around the neck and it connects with the bottom part at the front
@@toast_bath5937 there is nothing around her neck. And as per my knowledge I don't think it connects anywhere down there
@@3xP90 yep there is nothing
i guess she just wants some tanned chest
I don't know how I found this channel ❤️👽
@The Heir indeed 😅👍
Of course we don't have the technology to do this as of now, but theoretically, given the right time and equipment, we could terraform both Venus and Mars. Since Venus needs to loose some of it's atmosphere and Mars needs to gain a lot of atmospheric pressure (and heat) we could potentially take some of Venus' atmosphere and use it to assist with terraforming Mars, as it would increase both the atmospheric pressure of Mars, and it's heat due to most of Venus' atmosphere being comprised of greenhouse gasses.
Remember that this is not a full solution for either planets though, as this process would only require a small portion of Venus' atmosphere also, CO₂ and H₂SO₄ does not make a breathable atmosphere. This would likely do close to nothing to assist in the terraforming of Venus, and only provide a temporary solution to Mars' atmospheric pressure and heat problems. Realistically, this probably wouldn't actually happen, it is just a theory (an interesting one, in my opinion) but perhaps it could occur that Venus' atmosphere may be used in a similar manner to how I have explained in the event that we as a species do decide to make the attempt to colonize and terraform it.
**switch space ship into... MEGA MAID!!**
We can’t figure out how to fix our own atmosphere so we’re gonna build a new one by scratch. 😂🤣🤣
We could make us Venus to terraform a lot of planets
H0w?
I was waiting to hear why terraforming mars is a "big mistake" lol. Sounds hard but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
The planet core is death, without a core there is no magnetic field.
Such misleading title
Friend, wouldn’t our resources be better spent exploring Mars? (as we are doing right now)
It’s not Not a big mistake. It’s a colossal mistake.
Do NOT tell humans that something is impossible
If we can't fix our own planet. How do they expect to fix mars.
Well its simple
Who said we can’t fix our own planet? And what makes you think Earth was broken to begin with?
Extinction events occur every 26 - 30 million years on Earth. The main purpose of colonizing another planet is to avoid complete extinction of the human race.
it can't ....just like dr banner AKA Hulk says....human is mixture chemistry thats create chaos....lol
@@TheBrandicus Old Indian proverb: "When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money."
@@TheBrandicus Okay, so you think that we can completely change the atmosphere, shape another planet to our desire, but we can't stop an extinction level event on our own planet?
I learn more from this channel than i did when i was at school
Many people may not realize that the red coloration predominating on the Martian surface is due to Iron Oxides.
Imagine the quantities of oxygen that could potentially be liberated from those oxides without depleting precious reserves of water.
Will someone PLEASE tell me how we're planning on keeping an atmosphere on a planet without a magnetosphere? I know it's possible to terraform Mars given enough time and technology but seriously, how is this any different than trying to inflate a balloon with a hole in it? ...and don't even start with the balloon reasoning, I know it's garbage but hopefully I don't just get a bunch of responses picking that really crappy analogy apart. Won't any attempt we make at releasing atmospheric gases and whatever else just be blown away by the sun faster than we can produce them?
We don't have the technology atm. To be on Mars now will require domes or subsurface dwellings. But! That doesn't mean we won't have the technology in the future.
At one time, we didn't think *any* atmosphere could hang on to the planet - that it would all be blown away. Yet it's there, and even produces clouds by that mountain peak in the southern region, and sandstorms... I'm more concerned about the temperature. Night side of Mars is not survivable without shelter.
Personally, I'm curious what "spinning up" the planet would do. Maybe even creating a condition where more atmosphere is possible? Maybe hold more heat?
I'm kinda psyched about that 13mi crater on the moon. We don't have the technology to build a dome they say... but if we wanted it bad enough, and threw enough money at it, of course it could be done.
Personally, I think it would be a waste of energy and resources to generate a breathable atmosphere on Mars. Better to Para-terraform, by covering the surface with habitable buildings and to continually expand the living area like this. It would probably be like living in a giant shopping mall.
As for the planet's atmosphere, if you really want to change it, just focus on atmospheric pressure and temperature, instead of breathability, then maybe you can accomplish it by pumping out a bunch of CFCs. Many Fluorocarbons are much heavier molecules than CO2, and so will more easily be retained in the atmosphere and contribute more towards atmospheric pressure. Along with this they trap heat more easily. This all means that you would need much less of them than CO2 or oxygen in order to create and retain your atmosphere.
The only related proposal I've seen was placing a magnetic field at Mars L1 Lagrange point. In addition to preserving the atmosphere, some possible benefits: Deceased radiation. Natural build up of atmosphere from gasses escaping the crust. Naturally thickening atmosphere would trigger greenhouse effect melting the ice and CO2 at the polls.
There was a proposal to do the same thing for Earth. I think they estimated the cost at $100 Billion, which seems extremely low.
@@nolan4339 I agree, and there are non-cost benefits. The thin atmosphere is easier to protect from Martian dust storms because the wind doesn't have as much mass, just the dust - the light rovers and landers weren't sent tumbling and their instruments snapped off by 70 MPH winds.
@@1SCme 100 billion!? That's funny. The James Webb telescope comes to mind.
"Alright gang, all we need is about 100 mill and two years or so..."
15 years and billions later...
"Venus is a better candidate for terraforming"
Solution: "build a structure 4 times bigger than the planet to block sunlight"
You actually only need to build a thin mirror the size of a few kilometers or a series of smaller mirrors at the L1 point at Venus to effectively make a good solar mirror.
@@mill2712 right man 👍
lol that would be difficult , there is a very simple way to do the same just differently . just need something between sun and Venus to block the light or reduce it .
It rains sulfuric acid on Venus that would be hard to build on
Not really. Venus days is about 243 earth days.Venus rotation is too slow, it will fry everything at the side facing to the sun and at the dark side it will be very cold.
Earth is broken
Fixing earth: ❎❎❎❎
Invade Mars:✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅
Can we do both simultaneously?
@@justinthelegend8399 there are more people who want to invade anouther planet than fix out current home.
They want to invade mars so that we wont extinct when something happened to earth
If only we could cut the population to half it was before like thanos
too late we screwed up this planet
Most people can't bear 3 days of straight rain without getting depressed or bored...we are not going any other planet. We need to keep this on alive.
I don't know why when people discuss Titon, they always fail to mention the massive amounts of radiation Saturn produces. I also wonder how the gravity waves would affect the oceans of water.
The radiation would kill us fast so it does"nt matter
@@ethericboy right
How do we deal with the sun on Earth?
@@tntblast500 the earth has an electro- magnetic field around it and its in the perfect distance from the sun
@@coolgamer3646 Exactly. My point is every planet/moon is going to be subject to vast amounts of radiation.
Just wait for the singularity and let AI do all the heavy lifting for us
and that would be end of mankind...
Lol that’s my thinking also AI will have better ideas 💡 of designing crafts and ability to eventually intergalactic travel for humans.
@@puttigandhireddy It's inevitable unfortunately. We can take advantage of that however to become an advanced species and break the limits of our galaxy and eventually the universe.
@@puttigandhireddy Not really. That's just the self-projection of our species current destructive behavior. Maybe super advanced AI finds us interesting enough to simply _leave alone, observe our progress, and gather data._ A great experiment they'll be grateful to have the chance to observe, _documenting the rise and eventual end of an organically sentient species._
*Maybe they're already doing that.*
Quantum tech is coming...
Your vids have so many commercials it keeps me from drifting off or getting distracted, every time I turn around I'm suddenly listening to someone shouting about diet plans
Just send Arnold up there. He knows what to do.
Introducing oxygen into Titan's atmosphere, an atmosphere that rains liquid methane onto land which appears to be covered in some kind of hydrocarbon sludge, and contains lakes of liquid methane? What could possibly go wrong?
Anyone got a match?
@@craigthacker BOOM!
Just don't strike a match.
Put up no smoking signs.
Me playing TerraGenesis and have Terraformed Mars *Laughs in success*
Yes bcoz video games and life are the exact same thing...playing that game made you so smart and I am jealous now...lmfao
@@tylerdurden4006 you must be pretty smart XD cant even understand a joke.
Georgia Rose cool profile girl
I don't understand the idea behind it. If we have the technology to "terra-form" mars, why don't we use that same technology to work here on a planet that has everything and more abundant than Mars? We can't even stop the ever growing deserts. Why do we have to go to a planet to do something unimaginaly more difficult?
Most deserts are shrinking due to global warming (causing more rain) and CO2 addition to the atmosphere promoting plant growth. If a desert is growing, it's usually due to extracting excessive amounts of riverwater and groundwater for human use.
main reason - in case of cosmic disaster/event - gamma burst / rogue black hole / super nova explosion / meteors / rogue planets - we cant hold all eggs in one basket... besides earth is gone - it cannot be saved - what u, me or other 7.6bil other ppl thinks means nothing we have 0 saying in future of this planet... most of ppl think that if we start drive electric cars it would help and yet if tomorrow all the cars/trucks would disappear from this planet it would have almost 0 impact...
It is in our nature to explore.
Imagine spending trillions on bettering earth and all of that will be irrelevant when an asteroid makes a sequel to the dinosaurs extinction. Plus tell me which sounds more appealing: humans make life interplanetary maybe even go to different solar systems, explore the universe. Or just use the already slowly crippling earth until we run out of resources or wait for a asteroid to wipe us out. Number 2 sounds sad doesn’t it? Now you tell me what you think.
Musk wants to send humans to mars as a back-up plan, in case of something like a meteor strike or stuff like that
We should go: moon resources colony, mars resources, asteroid belt between Jupiter and mars resources, io
Why can't we fix the planet we already have ? Or practice going back and forth to the moon atleast.
Already have, there are so many resources on other planets that would help the earth, the moon, which is super close, has so many resources which would help us to go green, second it would boost the economy, creating more jobs as the space race roars to life once more
U missed the whole point ma dude... We want to colonize other planets so that when Earth becomes uninhabitable ( yes that will eventually happen but not in our lifetimes ) we would not go extinct.
@@ponyslavestation4669 I'm just saying tha
it really isn't either-or, space travel might be more in the news lately, but it's not like money is being diverted away from charity and environmental work for space exploration. Our issue with our planet is just inefficiency, space travel is all about efficiency and we can learn a lot from it.
@@ponyslavestation4669 Human race isn’t superior. Why do you care if humans die out? Nazi
Next step: How to KEEP a planet habitable?
@@gavrigavri6959 ... That’s an unavoidable issue. No use of worrying about something that is inevitable on EVERY, SINGLE, PLANET.
Earth will one day be uninhabitable, its a known fact. It doesn't matter what we do.
I don’t care. Humans aren’t superior nazis so what if they die out?
@@AnonYmous-hu7jo
We have better chances if we split the population between planets.
@@AnonYmous-hu7jo actually there is already technology to protect the planet from asteroids. launching a missile in space at the object will actually change its trajectory by a significant amount. it doesn't even have to be destroyed
The thing is with Titan, people have to move there eventually when the sun expanded so much that Earth would be too hot to live on and Titan would be the perfect temperature for melting ice.
Bold of you to assume humanity will exist for that long
@@adamboudhraa4490 There is a good chance we will, in a billion years technology would have evolved exponentially and things like interplanetary and even interstellar travel may become a common thing, provided some mass destruction doesn't take place...
@@midnightstories6619 billion years 😂😂😂 we lucky if we make it another 100 years, if every species lived forever then dinosaurs or mammoth or megalodon would still be with us today but no 😅we will disappear too just like them
@@adamboudhraa4490 But they didn't have one thing that makes us different, intelligence. The animals didn't have technology to help them survive. Even if some apocalypse happens on earth, there is a high chance that a few humans will surely not die. I agree we will too disappear but, not before a million years at least...
@@midnightstories6619 million years? Bruh if a meteor hits us this afternoon we will all disappear 😑
I've been saying for years that Venus is really the best option here. It's closer, its mass and gravity are only slightly less than that of Earth's, and as for the magnetosphere, Venus likely lacks one of those because of a lack of convection in its molten core due to a uniform temperature from the outer to inner radius, as opposed to Mars which has already completely solidified. I'm not sure if significantly cooling Venus' atmosphere would be enough to produce a convection effect all the way down through the mantle, but it seems to me to be a no-brainer compared to Mars, where we'd have to somehow liquify the core again.
Cooling would not, in fact, necessitate some silly megastructure as this video is proposing. You'd need a big array of mirrors in orbit, which is certainly much more achievable and realistic with today's technology. We'd probably need to spin it up a bit, but if we're proposing throwing asteroids/comets around for all of these terraforming projects anyway, I don't see how that's much of a downside.
Really wish that Musk and co would get off the Mars train, but hey, I'm just some guy on the internet, right?
Like what kurzgesat said.
And in the meanwhile having floating nations in the upper sky.
Surface temparature on Venus is 900 degree celcius it's not possible to cool down a planet artificially however it's possible to heat up a planet either slowly using reflective panels in the host planet orbit it will catch the otherwise sunrays that go astray and focus it on the planet or the fast way by dropping thermonuclear weapons on the true magnetic poles . And it's wrong , Venus is not in the habitable zone ,Venus is not in the Goldilocks . On the contrary Jupiter's moon Europa has a liquid water underground ocean covered by ice on top about 10 miles thick , under that liquid ocean , so the best option is Mars and the second best option is Europa
Actually the thick atmosphere of Venus protects itself from the sun's solar winds
Attempting to terraform Mars would be a huge gamble until we understand what happened to Mars previously. I have heard that Mars once had water and an atmosphere. We need to understand what happened to change that in order to make a better determination as to whether terraforming would be a viable possibility.
didn't have a magnetosphere. it got bombarded with solar radiation, and the atmosphere was destroyed. somehow a magnetosphere needs to be made
I’m willing to bet an asteroid is the culprit, judging by the lopsidedness and largest volcano in the solar system. Were talking about about an impact strong enough to severally damage the core, and an outlet needed for all that pressure. Olympus Mons in turn super heating the atmosphere and cooking up the moisture turning Mars into a mini-Venus and darkening the sky.
This super dense atmosphere now allowing more heat transfer from ground outward, cooling much of the mantle and radiating that heat into space but also sheering any warming that could return from the sun. After hundreds millions of years however, eventually not enough heat from mantle anymore being transferred and the planet began its long bounce-back into eternal nuclear winter.
At this point, the effects of the lack of dynamo thanks to the cooldown of the mantle, now allowing solar winds to slowly kick away atmosphere till it became what we see to this day.
@@MarsStarcruiser Very informative. So what measures could humans take to counteract these factors? Or we even capable yet of taking those countermeasures?
@@curtisrodriguez938 strangely enough, asteroid impacts now would be more helpful than bad. Mars no longer has enough unsolidified mantle or super thick atmosphere, to radiate heat very quickly from the ground anymore and further asteroid impacts would start storing alot of heat back in the planet again. Thats why many terraforming strategy ideas have little fear of problems associated with orbital bombardment in its current state.
There are many ways we can counter asteroid impacts however, say after terraforming such as deflection or simply harvesting. We do have the base technologies associated, just would need implementation of such tech on large enough scale is all.
Some people “hyper” worried(excessive) about solar winds depleting atmosphere and undoing terraforming efforts again but their worries are unreasonable. If we were ever achieve similar atmospheric pressure as Earth, on Mars. Even if say we didn’t employ magnetic shield deflection at L1 Lagrange to counter solar wind, it was estimated that it was still take in excess of a million years for the solar winds to bring martian atmosphere back to a point where planet was no longer habitable anymore.
Yes solar winds did slowly eat away the atmosphere before but over the course of hundreds of millions of years. We could do alot and maybe inadvertently fix many of the planets internal problems with the kind of heat our activity would bring to Mars over that million years, that claims of terraforming being “pointless because no dynamo,” are greatly exaggerated
@@jdrhea6712Really? With that kind of pessimistic thinking, we would not have the sciences of geology or astronomy which do tell us what happened before.
Whatever happens, I'm STAYING on earth, I like it here I have almost everything I need, want and enjoy here.
I'm glad you think this! I feel like our focus on Mars and not earth will become a scenario of "you don't realise what you have, till it's gone")
@@wendycregan2147 I'm glad you and others agree.
Good. Because none of us will have a choice in our lifetimes. If this happens it will be thousands of years in the future.
Hope you don't do shit and destroy Earth that would be hypocritical. Although I liked both Mars and Earth. Since new Science for Mars could be very well used also for Earth like advanced vertical farming and so on.
@@pauloazuela8488 Naw man, I love earth and I want to take care of it. The best I can while still being practical. I'm also a part of my schools environmental clubs and activist organisation (they're friendly and don't the sorta shit things that people are doing like blocking roads and harassment).
Right now our best option is to keep working on earth and make it the best possible place.
no
@Humanity Galatica what do you mean?
@@dalty1867 yes
Imagine Moxie indefinitely fuelling the astronaut's o2 levels within their suits. I can't wait.
astroneer esque shit right there
While people are preparing for a journey to march, meanwhile me thinking: when will "VR MMORPG" will be created!
12 minutes, 17 seconds saved. Mars has no magnetic field, so terraforming is an exercise in futility. Solar winds & radiation will strip away the atmosphere faster than we could make it.
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It's strange that Elon Musk doesn't understand this.
@@cinemartin3530 it is high emotional men that make history. Rational and logical decisions have never been able to achieve the impossible.
@@Reinhard_Erlik again we should be focusing on the upper venetian sky. Much more earth like than mars.
@@josephjohnson6849 We cant change Elon Musk's goal. For now we should support him in what he does.
"most of humanity believes we need to find another home in our solar system" is false. most of humanity doesn't think about this topic at all.
The point is exploration
@@versatileduplicity9313 the point is we need to avoid the sun in no time
"If we want to colonize other worlds we HAVE to terraform." Lol. I will never understand why humans think space needs to be nice and comfy for them to be a thing worth being interested in. It's all so smug and self-absorbed. I hate terraforming as a concept. It's like people think they are owed the universe bending for them.
Hey Destiny. I just wanted to say your videos are spectacular.
If you're looking for an idea for a new video, I'm not sure but I would imagine that a lot of people would very much enjoy watching a video about building a substantial moon from asteroid material for mars to help warm the core.
your voice is just like, amazing, i cant
Mars once had life on it (maybe) but got wiped out but that time Earth didn't so imagine if Martians did the same things we did like thinking of making earth habitable earth once was covered in Lava.
Fun fact: titan will be habitable with the expansion of the sun and will eventually develop life
and then, boom. solar system no more
@@the_catboi good one
How can you say that it will develop life with such certainty?
Millions of years from now. And life is not that common so still pretty unlikely.
@@gabrieljames4186 not 100% sure i just read an article about it but it will be habitibal obviously @JPthers who knows
Very extensive research, good job!
You make amazing content i really enjoy it keep it going.
Thought the biosphere project went bad. And are those domes gonna be able to with stand
Nope! I'm thinking bout how they gone block meteors nd stroids nd shit.. They got it✌
@@RRESully I rather risk that, than watch some idiot country finally start a long awaited nuclear war.
It’s funny how we want to terraform another planet when we could just save this one 🤔
This right here, this comment literally makes no sense. First of all if we even start terraforming mars we will have the technology to save earth already. So most likely if we even got to the point of terraforming mars, earth would be fine. If you can terraform a planet you can terraform the Earth. Checkmate.
Are you dumb? The planet has been hit by asteroids more times than your mom has gone down on your dad, it has experienced extinction events numerous times as well. The planet will be fine.
No it's not funny.. We have no other option but to consider terraforming. Earth won't be safe forever, and in my opinion its better to go out there and exploit the other planets for resources for further exploration of space.
And how are we gonna save the planet you mean? The only threat the planet is facing in the future is the sun's expansion. All life on the planet could die off and the planet would still be fine. The planet doesn't rely it's existence on the life growing on it. Life do however rely on habitable planets which is the whole reason for terraforming and just traveling beyond our solar system. We're not aiming for space just so we can abandon an old planet for something new and cool. We're trying to make sure humans live longer than the age of our star and to do that we gotta terraform.
Seriously. Why do people keep thinking "saving the planet only" to be the solution for mankind? If you ignore leaving the planet you're gonna make sure future people don't get to either, which results in a warm crusty hug from the sun in the end. But at least the planet was green for a while, right? How nice. For you. And your grandkids. For people faaar in the future though? Nah. They get to then watch the ocean dry out. Life being cooked by a burning radiating red giant. Their kids being the last generation maybe. If only they had thought about leaving the planet at some point... Ah well. Bye life on earth. Bye the whole earth as well actually. Now that's funny!
Why dont try both?
The title suggests that this channel have better researchers, scientists, and astronomers than NASA and SpaceX. ?
I think digging to the core, to find out why the planet is not producing a stronger magnetic field, is a good idea.
i don't think that's possible
@Aurinkomakkara Well you never know if we can colonize Mars then I’m sure we could soon find a way to dig not the core.
@@mandocuevas7592 the deepest hole on earth doesn't even come close scratching the surface of Earth. Why do you expect we could dig a 100 times deeper one on another planet?
@Aurinkomakkara Hey I said soon which would probably be like over 50 years
@@mandocuevas7592 more like 150 years
6:22 is that woman half naked ?? LOL
Idk LOL
No bra..lol
ok i havent watched it yet but i want to predict the answer first:
"because we should focus on fixing earth before we go somewhere else" or something stupid like that.
Nope! U messed up
Everyone glosses over another issue on making Mars atmosphere. Olympus Mons extends too high in the martian orbit meaning that when creating a denser atmosphere the friction will start to grind on it causing it to begin to rip at the atmosphere until the volcano is reduced enough in size.
You don't need mirrors 4 times larger than Venus as you can find the perfect placement between Venus and the sun where the light will be blocked and the mirror will be its minimal size.
1:18 the rover went straight through a small rock.
???
@@SNOLLYS can you read or?
no, it went over it.
Wouldnt terraforming the moon and giving it a rotation cause severe consequences on Earth?
It would be EXTREMELY dangerous to mess with the Moon.
Yes, that's why nobody should touch the moon
At most it should be turned into a launching station but never a mining base or a dwarf planet
Yep. It take away our seasons and mess with the gravitational pull it has on earth. The oceans would change drastically.
Can you guys explain how the rotational speed affects the mass of an object? So far what I have learned it's the mass of an object which gives it its gravitational pull. Since the rotational speed does not affect the mass, why would the interaction between earth and moon be any different from what it is now if the moon was spinning faster?
We live on a planet where we have perfectly evolved to live, and we are in the process of rending it inhabitable through climate change. So what makes us think we can travel millions of miles to live on a planet that is hostile to organic life ?
Exactly what I'm thinking 🤔. They've sent a robot to see if it can generate oxygen from CO2, so why not use that tech here on earth.
Climate change is natural. Were just making it worse. The earth will throw us into an ice age like it has done 3 times before when the world's got to hot naturally
Because humanity always feels entitled to survival
Im glad you mentioned about the magnetosphere and gravity because i believe these are the biggest problems to overcome. Two options for the magnetosphere - 1) nuke one of the two moons out of orbit to use the gravitational potential energy to try to cause some reaction that will activate the lower mantle and core to reactivate its magnetosphere. 2) a more promising solution is to produce a large enough magnet in orbit to produce the magnetosphere. Though a magnet of this size with the means to create the magnetosphere seems out of reach, there are large iron and nickel based M-type asteroids in the belt (such as Psyche-16) that could potentially be knocked into mars' orbit with a bit of orbital mechanics. Only with a magnetosphere I would then think about converting the atmosphere. As for the gravity side, you can potentially increase the gravity if you slow the rotation of mars. This reduces the centripetal force and the radius of mars would decrease F= GM/r^2.
But I personally think the secret to gravity is probably in particle physics. Only speculating but it would be interesting to see if gravity isn't just caused by mass but from certain mesons or bosons or something. This might mean that you could make materials with extra gravity such as tiles to walk on but thats just a bit of a wield speculation and i don't know much about particle physics :P.
What would you do with the carbon monoxide after you get the oxygen? its a complete waste product.
Put simply:
this Mars person have too many Red Flags to form any type of relationship with.
Humanity: “…so anyway I started terraforming”
Our Plan has been well on the way to becoming uninhabitable for a long time!
It was almost uninhabitable 10,000 years during the last ice age😁
Then we have to do something about it. Cleaning the earth from trash and smog is far easier than inhabitating another planet.
Its easy to say that as 1 person but i dont think that you do somthing about it no one does thats the problem 🤔
Doesnt matter in the distant future no one can survive on earth .
Trying to save the planet from humans only to die by the collision of universes and the finishing touch, the sun..
Believe or not our air and rivers are cleaner now than they were during my childhood
I don't think I would be alive in 30yrs. I pray that this will be a success for the future of our children and children's children.
To late to explore eath, but to early to explore the universe 🥺🥺
just in time to watch these videos
Oh no theres plenty we dont yet know about earth,Really theres plenty of stuff to do.
Explore the ocean
I just hope the zoning requirements don't suck when we start building on Mars.
Just don't let america start building first... the hell it will create. SUBURBIA
Mars is considered international waters, so you should be good.....all you have to deal with is pissy neighbors.
@@revolver2750 hahahahaha you totally got the reference :)
@@joeyleagjeld awesome I can't wait!
"Most of humanity agrees we need a second home in our solar system". Citation?
Can you name anyone anyone at all that disagrees? Even yourself?
I don't agree, no. I'm still waiting for a citation and a reason to agree. I can be convinced, but I think there's a lot to be overcome before I would consider that as even coming close to being a priority for humanity. Honestly, this isn't something regular people think too much about, if at all, so it's kind of a lame sweeping generalization to begin with. We have bigger problems than to pontificate on some theoretical tera forming possibilities that we don't have the technology or resources to utilize. I could go on, but honestly, do I even have to?
every single video proves that the earth is all we have.
I would like to see when planets would be used as United Nation HQ and their moons as different countries.😋😊😊😋😆😆
No
no
No
Now that's a bad idea
Worst idea
I can imagine history classes if mars is terraformed...
in the future, there will be no classes no schools, all learnings will be downloaded directly to our brains.
@Menacing Hat to people like you, any new ideas are weird, crazy, insane or delusional or whatever you like to call it,
ex. there were times that the horses are irreplaceable and a running machine was crazy.
there were times that the earth was the center of the universe
not so long ago, inventors of the airplanes look very stupid.
but look at us now.
@Menacing Hatat least you admitted that it's not impossible.
@Menacing Hat hey tech is advancing so fast it could perhaps be a thing... tho it is a bit outlandish
It is way cheaper to build an interstellar ark and go to a decent planet.
Noah... is that you?... Where can I buy tickets
Cheaper, but time consuming. In case you haven't noticed, there aren't a lot of habitable worlds nearby, and by nearby I mean those that we can get to within a few centuries
@@nicholaslee5473 Life extension changes the definition of "nearby"
@@nicholaslee5473 Depends on if we can find better ways to accelerate spaceships
Lol cheaper? have you already constructed such a ark?
We are able to terraform we do it on earth all the time but I never heard anybody talking about sending colonists to other stars or even to decent planets from other stars
you obviously have no idea about the distances involved
Pretty sure we are able to terraform an other planet within the solar system in some decades maybe even now with huge amount of money
Scientists be talking about terraforming other planets while they still can't terraform Earth. The planet isn't suddenly becoming uninhabitable, it's doing it slowly over time.
You must be well over 50 cause your wisdom shines thru...
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Do you see the woman (is it a woman?) next to the red tanned man at 6:21 ? Because it seems it doesn't have any bra wearing.
Is it right to quote someone as insane and Elon musk ? He's literally a meme lord wtf
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Yeah that's what he's known for... nothing else. In fact I heard he's an idiot. I doubt he could even pass a simple third grade math test.
@@timmzzzz88 they say genius, but he won't take a test to prove that. He's a good con man though.
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one day, human will so atone for the planet earth that the only chance for salvation will be terraforming Mars. and to be honest, I really don't want to become witness this event ...
If we can terraform mars we can terraform earth
@Humanity Galatica 'you cannot just shoot a hole into the surface of mars'
-some random robot dude from doom eternal
@Humanity Galatica whats the point of bombing earth who would do tha- *looks at the thousands of nukes we have* oooooooh... right
God: "I'm Gonna Create This Planet Called Earth So Human's Can Live On It And Thrive"
Human's: "So Anyway's I Started Terraforming"
Humans can never settle. They will always seek to expand their horizons.
I agree, Idc if God created this world of ours but it's not my fault that earth is being destroyed because of our/we human's mistakes. It's better to have hope in terraforming another planet so we could live on, rather slowly dying on earth (I still have hope left on reviving earth but so far from what I'm witnessing well... it looks like it's impossible)
(Rather accepting My fate I would prefer doing everything that I can in order to advance our technology so we could have place to live on)
@@newleaf626 Why terraform another planet? If we had the tech to terraform, surely we could terraform earth back to health???
Its impossible to talk about mars without bringing in Space X.
Space X... Kerbal Space Program in real life.
true dat
Great information. Better said why we don't try to safe earth instead transforming Mars.
I love how humans want to invent intergalactic space travel....to farm lol. We are so cute.
If we finally managed to make a spaceship that is capable of light speed..then baby I am going to be the new Francis Drake and explore other galaxies for other life forms. Or just for the fun
Yeah, especially as our earth resources are dwindling and we need it so badly here.
you'd be surprised how important farming other resources from space is
@@caliburbermuda5422 yeah, its just very hive mind. With all of space at our disposal, no one talks about finding their own island and living there til they die. Everyone talks about staying with the collective...its interesting
Titan would most definitely be the best option especially since it’s the least destructive in these hypotheses, I mean come on the risk of not only a nuclear winter and minor to major loss of polar materials on Mars, the destruction of Venuses surface and the possibility of worsening the lava flow and seismic activity on Venus pushing the hypothesized time frame wayyy out of boundaries (just think of the mass extinction of dinosaurs after just ONE good sized asteroid) and the mirror hypothesis on titan is wayyy less intrusive and far less destructive and damaging to the moon definitely solidifies that for me !! 🙂
Only issue with Titan is how far it is, We cannot reach it yet. Or at least we don't have the balls
On Venus, we can live in the upper atmosphere which is very hospitable for human life, similar earth temperatures and Earth pressures
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That's while I watch vids.
9:30 I saw somewhere that on a terraformed Venus, the 50 deg N or S latitude will get the same insolation (amount of sunlight) as the equator on Earth. Overall the planet will remain hotter, but the poles will be habitable, depending on the winds.
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If we want to terraform a planet, then let’s start by fixing our own planet
🎉
What a stupid opinion
@@aunphilversum3204 bro he's right going to Mars might sound cool but terraforming a planet takes hundreds of years now we have enough problems on our planet don't we? Let's fix them first, and u should learn to respect other people's opinions.
Given how tragically bad we are at getting things right, letting science have at our planet on a global level doesn't give much in the way of warm fuzzies. Tell you what, go start with China, we'll wait on your progress report.🤣
Why would you terraform Earth lol? It's perfectly livable as it is now. And it's gonna be that way longer than any of us.
"Its not possible with current tech" i feel like these videos just completely disregard the fact that millions of scientists and researchers are keenly aware of the limitations and thats exactly why tech advances to overcome
I don’t see what this has to do with the statement “not possible with our current tech” or how that statement disregards scientists and engineers in any way please elaborate
For an earthling to go to mars to live where the gravity is only something like 1/10th of earths would mean shortening one’s life by decades with a lot of physical suffering towards and at the end .
Yeah, so maybe best to keep our feet on Terra Firma, eh?
Sounds like the first Americans
The narrator speaks in a posh British accent so I know what he's saying is true.
Like Mrs. Costanza will only take wise advice from a Chinese woman.
Every American blindly believes that accent to be scientific fact. Now, a southern or Appalachian accent, would be discarded if it even discovered the cure for a rare deadly disease.
Elon Musk has entered the chat
Con man he is
Tx for the video. Interesting subject..