@@fumledunoI feel like the lack of information for enemies and units is part of what makes this game special, I can't think of many games that do this when stats are important. Also the game is good even without visible stats, which is probably hard to pull off.
@@Kr1egsmesser lack of stats is also the reason why i engaged in the community in the first place!... and alsoo go into wiki and see what's in the stage........ and see if the unit you got is mediocre or not lol
hipteck1554 no after you play the level for the first time you can click on the level name and it’l give you info about the level and the enemy’s. And for the cats there is a literal cat info button under the cat icon!
@@Dark139hunter in mobile you can clear the storage of an app, which removes everything you have from that app. This is an option that works nearly all of the time, unless there's something wrong with your phone.
the account recovery thing is real though I lost a 10k UR account a few years back because I lost my phone and when I contacted ponos multiple times each time they said the account was being played on and eventually stopped responding. I played so much on that account that Worker Cat was burned into my screen lol
For me the only problem i have with battle cats is the energy system needs internet to refill which might not be a problem to a majority of people but for me internet is kinda limited. But i do understand the measures they took to fix the energy refill glitch using device time.
You can just use mobile internet, you just have to have it for a minute and you'll get all energy you had to get dependinf on time you've waited ( yapping)
The old battle cats was fun. You can play without energy, my brother is the one who played before showed me this game Edit : i've been searching for old version of battle cats but no luck :( i want the no energy.
Holysheep i have 8 friggin years on this game and i just noticed the amount of flaws and lack of QOL features this game haves They are making some QOL changes since last year (like the expanded enemypedia with their traits and skills) so i really hope they realize "ow man this game is 10 years old, maybe giving it cloud account sync is a good idea"
9:04 i myself have got a cursed seed, I've been playing one save file for 8 YEARS and have spend a good amount of money on Gacha and in my 8400 user rank it does NOT have Metal Cat, Gold Cat, Rich Cat lll, None of the Brainwashed cats, And ZERO LEGEND RARES. Come on man i want metal cat so bad, ROCK AND STONE!
Those aren't key units so it's fine, I mean metal is very good and useful but not necessary. Also there's a lot of ubers better than legends, you technically don't need one but yeah unlucky. Though 8.4k user rank isn't too high, keep going hopefully stuff changes
see thats the thing i have an account with like 1300 user rank no money spent and i got a uber rare and the next pull a legend rare so if you get a unlucky seed well tough titty the game is gonna punish you for that
I’m getting my data recovered, sucks I have to wait like 5 days now, but thank god I have enough proof it’s my account to get it back. Really wish they made account recovery easier
Ponos could make treasure festival guaranteed chance for superior treasure and give more free powerups and leaderships as you progress through early game
Dude energy in beggining-early game is so limited. If it weren't for the abundant treasure festivals and half-energy cost periods that happened in early summerfest this year (which is actually when I started the game), I think it would've taken me a few more days to complete EoC and perfect all the treasures. Fortunately you get leaderships for every map beaten including SoL maps so I'm sailing quite smoothly now.
@fasta5462 exactly, if ponos decided not to make treasure festival give guaranteed superior treasures then they should at least remove the whole energy system, this just makes the game more boring when you have to wait a couple of hours and even a whole day in some cases to recover your energy just to end up spending all of your energy trying to get superior treasures on 3 stages, then the cycle repeats
The energy system should be introduced in itf which makes sure u will be able to get leaderships while actually having energy bc in the beginner phase leaderships are hard to get and makes the energy system horrible
As a player whos been playing for a LONG time, (pre gamamoto era plus fungi cat and PPAP collabs). I agree with all your points, less so with the cursed seed part but its still a fair point. I have always wanted to recommend this game to my friends but the beginner process is so tedious and long I just cant bring myself to do it. I also see it with PONOS marketing and how they are starting to advertise to the west and all I see are beginner stages and cats and nothing that shows the fun mid and end game like crazed stages and such. If I were PONOS I would overhaul the beginning to make the grind not nearly as bad. But it will always be my favorite mobile game and I do see the course PONOS is taking with a few recent QOL updates so I have hope!
I had a cursed seed when I started 2 years ago. I bought 4500 catfood only to get 3 duplicate units. After that, I just had to go seed tracking.. Fast forward, I am 27kUR and just keeps on boring grinding cat tickets and rare tickets. The QoL for these things definitely need to get improved specially the autos. I'm losing my patience specially with the new units collabs that has not been happening for months.
as someone who's replayed Empire of cats like 3 times because of the terrible account recovery, the beginning phase is pretty rough not only having lost units but also to grind the most annoying part of the game, i think just getting rid of that is good because at least into the future has some character to it, and cats of the Cosmo is its own annoying yet entertaining chpt
For cursed seeds - I rolled 100s of cats, possibly thousands, without a single octo. I beat all story chapters and part of UL without octo. Imagine supercat being your main wave-blocker....
I don’t think using gold CPU’s should be free. That would completely trivialize catfruit stages, and possibly make Ponos ruin them and make them limited like bstone stages. I don’t think condensing all of the story chapters into 50 stages is a good idea. That would make the game way too short. You could just go with what Battle Cats Unite did and make each story mode have one chapter instead of 3. Keep in mind that a single bun bun is very difficult for most players in eoc, already reaching cotc like 30 stages after that is way too fast
I personally think Metal enemies are still one of the worst ideas design-wise in the game. Thankfully there are a lot of options to deal with them nowadays, but it still doesn't excuse the fact some stages are still only won on a dice roll.
Agreed. Grinding elder seeds sucks when I get the metal continuation stage and I have paladin cat which makes it a coin toss instead of a dice roll but even then it's not easy to do and I still lose sometimes
@@irun3yxw2k81 fr. I was grinding for like 14 elder seeds one day when I had the motivation to do it and every time the metal stage came up my heart dropped
I have a small cursed seed. I haven’t got cyberpunk yet and only pulled 3 Ubers naturally. All my other ones were guaranteed. The guaranteed desert now is making me suffer
When I first started a few years ago I never knew what SoL was and never played it because it was hidden at the bottom of the legend stages. I think it would be more accessible for new players to make it into a different story chapter like EoC, ItF, and CotC, just without treasures. They could also expand on the UI allowing you to choose how many stars of difficulty you want to play on and maybe a stage filter for specific enemies to beat to clear the monthly kill quest challenges. Half energy cost events and a treasure chance-up event for SoL in this form would make new players want to grind the small rewards with a 1% drop more I think. I made a new account around a month ago and early SoL just seems like EoC but with a few new enemies that match the same difficulty in new ways (Master A, Celeboodle, Dagshund, THE SLOTH, etc). New players that just beat EoC Chapter 1 would have a breeze through parts of early SoL until they have their first few challenges.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE SPEED UP AND CAT CPU STUFF. I left battle cats because I was getting bored of grinding in the mid game for absolutely everything. With the new feature of skipping battles with double cat CPU I returned. But I'd have never left if the feature was introduced in the game a very while ago. Btw W video and W guides. I don't blame you for wanting to leave Battle cats. I love this game, but I hate it's still so unpolished.
honestly lately ive ben wondering why battle cats has been so boring and this is excactly why another thing needed to be changed add more events and make them shorter cause these 15 day levels that are pretty easy and finished in 1 or 2 days stay there for soooo long and it make me lose my motivation to play the game
My suggestion to improve a bigginer phase is to try make different stages for each chapter not just a near copy and paste as most main story chapters are Also speed ups being a free quality of life, 100% agreed i always question why so many games have speed up just like that but in battle cats you need to geind for them, because how speed ups are always limited I'm often discouraged from using them which makes some parts of the game even more boring than how they already are, like for example farming stages or uninteresting legend stages With CPU tho i don't mind how it works right now mainly because CPU always was a very underused item so lot's of people had them stockpiled
I don’t think that speedups are a large problem, most levels do not need speedups to be fun. I can get through my 900 energy cap in 30 minutes, would I rather only have it for 15? The only situation I use speedups is when I am cyberstacking or grinding event tickets, but these situations are few and far between. I have over 400 stockpiled from early-game Gamatoto, lucky tickets, and other event tickets. I see no reason to run out, because I see little reason to use them. They make my timings half as accurate and reduce my time to play.
Speedups are also less useful in Battle Cats than the other Gacha games I have played because Battle Cats has around 10x the timing and APM of these other games.
The whole Gacha system is so stupid, because like im done with all manics and have started Cotc and have like +1 CanCan, while some of my friends have like 2 legend rares and none of them have finished Itf (except for one, but hes actually good lol)
Even though I'm a person who has a blessed seed (My first multi in a banner I got Mococo and also 2 Ubers) I can admit how stressful it must be for people who have a bad seed, because not getting certain units just because the game doesn't want to give them to you, it's pretty annoying, besides a gacha game not really being gacha? Of course, this would break all the people who use seed tracking (myself included, but I only started because I wanted to use my legends tickets well). And about the account problem, this is a problem that I see with "old" gacha games (10 to 9 years old like FGO). They all tend to have a horrible account system that many people end up losing their accounts by accident. The cell phone ends up breaking, being stolen and so on.
One issue I have with the Gacha system is that even if you grind for a bunch of rare tickets, you can’t even use them for a 11 draw I know it isn’t major but it’s something that’s annoyed me for a while now
There needs to be a solid way to build cat food. I understand there are the legends path, but it feels so stagnant after the rush of clearing all event stages
Ive played this game at least 5 times from the beginning (Not including 3ds and Switch versions), and the beginners stage is without a doubt absolutely, mindboggling tedious. The Switch version kinda fixes it by making energy refills and continues only cost 3 catfood instead of 30, making treasure radars half the cost, only having 3 chapters and making the Cat Ticket stages drop rare tickets instead of normal Cat Tickets and I think it would be a really nice change for the mobile game. Great Video!
I’ve been playing dokkan for years, and i can tell you that grinding medals is not compareable to grinding treasures. This is just because of the rng of treasures. I am also seriously stuck in battle cats i feel so restricted right now. I could def use some guidance.
another big problem you did not mention is the pixels i feel like afetr 10 years they should of def put more effort into the unit and its not just the old unit new unit are also bad pixel it makes it very annoying
I had one account years ago I got pretty far I had unlocked musashi had all the cyclone stages done. I think I was user rank $6,000 or something along those lines and I lost my account and it was just too painful. I stopped playing completely because of that and just recently came back and even as a returning player who had experience and knew what to do and how to make the grinds easier, I can definitely say the beginning portion is by far the worst. It's just there's no need for it to be so grindy. I totally agree on all the points you made about that
Yeah i just started 3 days ago and it's been... Not great. It does feel really repetitive so far and find it annoying especially these chapters being copy and paste while also feeling like i can't use the gacha either while barely getting any xp. I'm starting to burn out fast and it's kinda sad...
another issue that i think is important is Regular Cat tickets A lot of progression is locked for your main cats, they're the main thing in the game and considering silver gacha tickets, not only are shared between normal cats and upgrades but If you want a true form for ar egular cat it could take hundreds of regular cat tickets , and PONOS drops them extremely rarely once a day, or getting 2-3 whenever the facing danger stage appears or even more rarely Cybear is horrible I'm already in CoTC ch2 and my eraser is still at 20+5 after like 200 tickets cuz it just doesnt seem to drop
Siege of hippo really should be at least 1 ticket guaranteed. Or slightly cheaper in energy cost. It's such an easy stage even without Critters. Wasting the 250 energy feels bad when you don't get anything. The silver cat tickets are so annoying to grind and having your main units so underwhelming throughout the early game. By the time you grind enough tickets you probably have one or two good Ubers, a few good rares and some specials. If it wasn't for restricted stages I wouldn't use most normals.
As a newbie, treasure grinding is a HUGE issue, im nearing the end of EoC Ch3, and i have almost no treasures so i've been forced to rely on ubercarrying for all the Moon stages. Now, since cat CPUs are a hot commodity early on, i cant even golden CPU + treasure radar my way to getting everything. Its PAIN.
as an experienced battle cats player i have lost 3 battle cats accounts in the past (my last one of which i had 6500 user rank) so i had to resort to the battle cats unite. the battle cats unite dosen't repeat itself in the beginner phase so there is only 45 stages for each chapter. also it has really fun OP minigames
I started a mini account since I've reached the end game on my main save. You'd think grinding XP, fruits, and stages would be awful, but no the worst part was getting treasures. I forgot how tedious and awful it felt having to set a schedule to play during a treasure festival because for whatever reason whenever you have a good amount of leaderships saved up and have the mental capacity to play for an hour or so it never wants to appear. Both 24-hour festivals as well as 1-hour ones become elusive bigfoots. That's one of the main things I've never understood, just buff the drop rates for treasures and remove the festivals altogether. Why force players to go through the repetitive slop that is the story level’s (mainly EOC)? It got so bad to the point where I couldn't for the life of me get the treasures for ITC Ch3 so I just bought 60 treasure radars to finally move on and do SOL. It's crazy that they haven't changed this system. The fact they are required to get so you can move on to the best part of the game is annoying.
One thing I recommend to all players that struggle is to seed track🙏. This game sucks the life out of you when you try and work around not having a key gatcha unit. I remember for the longest I couldn't beat many alien stages on my main save because I didn't have surfer cat.
I played the game since the game initially had names based on Japanese prefectures I reset once cuz of a lost account and honestly the one thing I NEVER want to repeat is Story chapters. It's tedious to grind for treasures even with Treasure Festival. It should also have a pity if you grind say, 10x and don't get Superior treasures. That being said, a lot of QoL features I didn't encounter since I came back from around v8.0 is like the double row, 2x Cat CPU clear, talents, etc. Powercreeping is surprisingly tame after all these years. So even if Battle Cats has these issues, the core game is still pretty good considering its been around for 10 years and counting.
honestly, I think the best solution for the beginning part would just be to make the treasure rate drop way way higher, like 3x higher. Or maybe a pity system that gives a guaranteed inferior after 3 clears, normal after 7, and superior after 15. Those seem like reasonable amounts, as I remember in the old days sometimes clearing stages in EoC 25 times and not getting full treasures.. Treasure grinding I think is an essential part of the game, and teaches you fundamentals along the way. You can even learn timing units and whatnot to speedrun stages when youre grinding. Condensing the 450ish levels of the main story chapters into one chapter would seem way too fast paced. The reason beating bun bun, bahamut, or the 3rd god stage feels so good is because of the journey beforehand. If all 9 bosses got mushed into 50 stages, thatd be a main story boss every 5 or so levels. That means something like the face shows up at the same rate as youd meet the first hippoe in Japan. Sure, it might get monotonous to beat these stages over and over, but if treasure drop rate is as high (or if pity system is implemented) youd still be making rapid progress in terms of cat research, base health, cannon stats, cat stats, and worker cat stats. And the feeling when you get that treasure activated feels so good, like a huge level-up. Ive also been playing since about September or October of 2014, just a few weeks after EN release, and have distinct memories of activating treasures and being blown away at how fast my money goes up, or my wallet size increased, or whatever treasure I got. I really enjoy the dynamic of early game, and I think the grind, as painful as it gets at times, is nearly essential to learn the game fully. The anticipation building up over 47 levels of beating the main story bosses 9 different times at the moon/big bangs is just too good to condense into a single chapter.
The reason all my friends stopped playing was Empire of Cats. I knew what was beyond (this is like my third or fourth play through) so the hope that eventually it would get fun made me keep going but they had no clue as to what the midgame/endgame was and so they had no reason to continue…
One issue I have about taking away the treasure grinding and shortening all 3 of the campaigns is the steeper XP cost. If you're rolling the gatcha and getting those specialty units(anti-zombie, anti angle, etc.) you're going to need and lot more XP to level those units.
The problem with early game specifically is that its the only time that you don't get to rest from treasure grinding. When you are done with EoC chapter 3 you will switch between into the future and stories of legends. Making event stages tailored for early game players that would introduce them to new enemies but weakened enough for them to be able to clear them. And rewards for clearing those stages could be xp, pickups or trasures on already completed lvls in EoC and maybe even into the future
The account recovery for me as well. I lost two accounts which I had progressed quite far and when trying to transfer over to a new phone, the code didn't work and PONOS weren't any help at all. It's so frustrating 'cause you invest so much time to have it all go to waste. Just give the option as said to link to an email. Pretty much every other game has this option
I think there’s some good takeaways from bc unite on switch, specifically how the main chapters are presented. One chapter for each of the three, even though it feels slightly rushed. Pvp mode from bc unite would be a good addition as well, would be great for the 10th anniversary update Lastly, I don’t mind the QoL currently, my only gripe is with the usefulness of Cat CPU. It would be nice in the pause menu mid battle you could select cats that the cpu can’t send out, say cat combos for instance. Legitimately my only issue. Good vid otherwise boogle 👍 I agree with most of your opinions as well.
i personally started 2-3 months ago to play, im having alot of fun tbh but yeah eoc was a lot of mental to get trough and telling myself that it was worth it "wich was worth" just whay to much treasure grind and waiting for treasure festivals.. it got to the point that i just threw my catfood away to get the clear on bunbun "not smart,i don't care" as of now im about the 30s on chapter of legends "not stuck still going on" i did use seed tracker "for me this existing means i have to use it... i played atleast 200 gacha games im tired to get shit rng+ i can motivate myself when i see something i want on the tracker xd the only reason i buy the monthly gold pass is inf speed ups.. i don't think i can play the game without speed ups tbh
Newer player here. Just beat Chapter 3 Moon and trasure grinding really does feel bad. When I get lucky and get a superior in a few runs I don't really mind. But when I have to clear a single stage... SEVENTEEN TIMES.... Yeah it feels pretty bad.
Some of the QoL id like to see would be changing costumes with changing form. I know it'd make some models wonky but there are upgraded forms that i just dont like the design of but i never want to use first forms because of power. And changing the background of the sliding doors once you unlock a new chapter it'd be nice to change through the different doors. And stats. At this point just showing proc precentages would be enough. But at least they finally added cloud recovery.
my solution for the treasure problem would probably be exp rewards for each treasure set completed and catfood rewards for each treasure set maxed to superior. this would give new players a more visible incentive to grind these treasures. I will admit I'm not sure if this would solve the problem completely, but when I play a new chapter I always grind treasures as I go and its not as difficult of a grind. I completely agree with the treasure festival becoming a guaranteed chance for a new treasure and believe that in pair with this would not only make treasure grinding less of a grind but also something new players would want to do. personally I think the idea of missions rewarding treasures isn't exactly a good one, but that's my opinion. it just seems a little too difficult for the rewards you get, I got this idea from that by basically reversing it and this one wouldn't even be difficult to implement.
“Battle rats” is wild and 3OB3 is right now I’m at square one it’s kind of annoying because I had my inquiry code but then there were updates that meant you need a confirmation or wutever it was so I’m stuck
If u wanna ever bring up a good example of bad power creep, just look at Crash Fever and the Global version which is now EoS. Global version has to buff units that release compared to their JP counterparts just to be usable (imagine a cat had critical chance on JP, but global had to buff it to savage blow to be usable at a base line), and the eventual addition of new Omega Quests ("super end game content" is a joke) required u to pull for the 2 new c65 banner units, as well as have a specific free to play unit from 3 years prior to be able to clear it.
If your new just keep making accounts until you get yourself a good seed for beginning if your not new and your seed sucks there’s nothing you can do and that sucks ngl
As a person stuck on itf chapter 3 moon I can say it only stops being tedious once you get to like Brazil chapter 2 with the exception of floating continent and moon
as someone who completely obliterated itf 3 moon (i definitely did not use lvl 30 catman for it) i recommend psycho cat and wheel cat true form, and if you dont have all superior treasures they're probably the first thing you should be getting tbh
as someone who completely obliterated itf 3 moon (i definitely did not use lvl 30 catman for it) i recommend psycho cat and wheel cat true form, and if you dont have all superior treasures they're probably the first thing you should be getting tbh
My issue with this game is that it's very hard to figure out the path forward for unlocks and progress. I haven't played in months and have no idea what cats I'm missing, what stages are relevant, or what i should be working towards next.
I think maybe condense each of the three chapters of eoc, itf and cotc into one chapter each, and thats the main chapter, essentially the same amount of unique gameplay anyways
Bro is right he said exactly what is say with everything like the treasure and I stop playing battle cat the first time I played I quit because of bun bun but I downloaded it again it I finally beat it and I like the game even more and i feel bad for the people who start late game.
I kind of like the chapters being fairly long, but for gods sake GIVE ME SOMETHING THAT ISN’T A COPY AND PASTE OF THE LAST CHAPTER. I would like it if for EOC, ITF, and COTC you battle separate locations from the last chapter, and the few stages that were fought in the last chapter that you still fight should have different stage designs with different enemies. The essential checkpoints like floating continent, great abyss, some of the special only restrictions for COTC, etc. Also, DEFINITELY agree on the “guarantee a tier of treasure” rule during treasure fest. No one likes clearing a stage a bunch of times for nothing.
i mostly agree but i think instead if putting ALL story chapters into one chapter with fifty levels i'd say just make it so EoC, ItF and CotC all only have one chapter instead of three, its longer yes but i think the idea of "after EoC start to focus on legend stages" and "after ItF make sure you have certain true forms or special stage units" cause that just makes progression easier to understand, with treasure changes i completely agree though, i'd say EoC could benefit from tips saying how you're actually supposed to play the game, good video though
I wasn't going to link my account to an email but this video has convinced me, I don't think anyone wants to lose years worth of progress on something you are invested in, even if that thing is bad for your wellbeing(I don't have a problem i swear).
In my opinion a big issue is like early game when you only get 7 rare tickets in eoc (empire of cats) and no more in the other chapter of eoc so you get the units you get and no more for a while
Another problem is.... THE ISLAND OF HIDDEN TREASURES. My angel units don't seem to make any difference or seem to damage the enemies, How do I beat these levels to obtain angel item rewards when I can't beat the level??
Totally agree with the beginning of game grind. I have a second account and have to push myself to finish ITF3 ( almost there, though) I often just play my primary account, it’s more interesting.
I think both treasure festival and Z-medals should guarantee treasures. If PONOS is too afraid to merge all the chapters into one like you suggested, at the very least they could change EOC chapter 2 & 3’s level design by using different enemies (like some slighty nerfed SOL enemies) to at least add some element of surprise for new players to encounter as they go along.
Honesty the only reason why I started tracking my seed is simply because I have been playing this game for ages, I have a lot of cats (and I mean a lot) but I somehow never seemed to get a legend rare. When I started researching how seeds work I realised how flawed the gacha system truly was. I try to stay away from looking at anything except for how far away my next legend rare is. Mainly because I am a collector and legends are still so hard to get (I only have 4 legends even though I genuinely have the best seed I’ve ever seen. Not even joking when I say that I had 2 legend rares IN A ROW!) Thus I can start collecting legends while also having the excitement of “random” Ubers.
big agree, when I returned to a new account 3 or so months ago I decided to hack in 300 treasure radars just to skip treasure grinding. i also hacked in 200 cat cpu’s because i agree that skipping completed stages shouldnt be so hard. this is not a hacks account btw- i have actually bought the officer’s pass and other things that require real money. i just feel like if i didnt hack in those things, the game wouldve just been a worse experience.
My biggest problem with the game right now is that my next major step in progression is multiple weeks of simply grinding cat fruit and waiting for tickets. Empire of cats has been 100%'d but Into the future 1 is 100% but I've hit 2 and started to stall out with what I've got. I assume this is about the time I start trying to unlock the eraser clone but... I just picked up battlecats on switch instead.
ive reset the game a few times cause of lost save data and found the best way to deal with empire of cats is to delete and redownload the game after japan and the free starter stuff till you get smt like kaza jizo you can rush the first three chapters
I’ve actually come to like the new ad options as they don’t interfere with gameplay at all and act as a way for the player to grind for more by doing less. As well as having it as an option to continue a stage every so often to save gotcha pull especially when you have to grind sol due to finishing the main chapters faster than you thought you would. As I’m at the point where I can’t do anything till I get to and beat the fist chapter of UL to true form the legend special units, and to get relic fruits. Also does anyone know when brainwash units come back into rotation been saving my cat food and my discounted gotcha rolls.
I really think for the seed problem, every non uber (who consistenly shows up in the roll pool) should be obtainable in like 200 rolls, and also the garenteed uber should just, not use the seed, or its own seed, or anything that isnt replacing what could be the only anti-alien cat for many MANY rolls. Heck I think the playthrough I did which I based my review on was cursed and lacked anti-alien gacha units. Which is kind of a problem with how powerful aliens are. The seed consept isnt bad, its the exacusion that is questionable to say the least.
It took my like a year to get all the key gacha super rare units cuz I only got surfer, can can, swimmer and pizza once I got to cats into the cosmos my seed was kinda cursed.
I would LOVE cloud saves that are linked to an (optional) account with password and all. What I would love even more is having the ability to have multiple accounts on the same device. Imagine the youtube thumbnail potential: I OPEND 100 SUPERFEST CAPSULES
I hope ponos will notice this problems and rework the battle cats to even better experience for beginners,mid gamers,and end gamers.Btw advance happy 10 anniversary Battle cats.
I think having just three chapters for the whole main saga would be nice. Chapter 1 being eoc, chapter 2 being itf, and chapter 3 being cotc. They can keep Aku realms as a seperate thing as well.
I lost my account years ago cause I forgot to get the code and lost literal years of time invested into the game. Including things like collab units, true form units I had boosted, Ubers, story progress, everything. And I never really thought about it until watching this video but it’s left me so burnt that I haven’t picked the game up since.
Another thing to add to the QOL is that there's no units stats shown in game & this info can only be obtained outside of game. Like learning red riding Mina is a good couter vs R.Ost. but they just tell you the units abilities in the cat guide not important info like standing range and dps. This doubles for the enemy guide which is even more useless like it gives random lore no one cares about. Like bruh new players wanna know what killed them and if the enemy can't be effected by certain effects.
14:39 I think combining it all into one extremely long chapter would be bad. I'd rather they do what they already did in TBC Unite. There they condensed the 9 main chapters into just 3 (called Empire of Cats, Into the Future, and Cats of the Cosmos). And about the treasur missions I remember thinking it would be fun if they added thre missions that would guarantee a gold treasure if you completed all three for the stage when I did self-imposed challenges while grinding treasures.
I have some of the best units I can get at the stage of the game I’m in, and I’m working to get all the crazed cats. But I just can’t pull salon no matter how many spins I do. It’s starting to tick me off as I lack good spam aoe generalists, only castaway/drama cats
My main issue is how long it takes to get strong enough to clear ITF. I’ve been stuck between SOL and limited stages trying to get good units, I could clear ITF 1 but that’s not very useful for me
I've been missing octopus for decently long now. I have pretty much every other key gacha and I've done a few 11 draws, but I have yet to get octopus. I'm currently at the point in the game before Musashi, getting manic and li'l cats, CoTC 2, first half of Aku realm, advents, etc.
take a step in the bubble where i have to beat aku cyclone on part 2/5 of the 10th anniversary event as a midgame player and you see the real powercreep
Bro i'm ngl if anything I want the whole treasures thing revamped im genuinely losing interest grinding cotc treasures I can't do it man 😭i swear i have to clear each one like 6 times for superior even during treasure fest
For me, the lack of rewards is such a huge problem, like for other gacha games you can get 10 pulls just for playing in about 1-2 weeks, but for the battle cats I played for nearly a month just to get a 10 pulls, also I do think the gacha system need some kind of pity system where you could get guaranteed Uber for the current banner, I get it the company want to make money, but it's a gacha game, so the main thing is all about the gacha, maybe PONOS can increase the amount of rewards or just create a new reward system where for examples you clear 1 stage you get like 5 cat food or something like that. So yeah, for me the reason I quit battle cats is just because of the rewards
Seeds are randomly generated too. The only real difference is if you look at your seed. the chances of you getting screwed over by rng each roll or rng for a whole seed is the same
Game needs: -stats on every unit (doesn't need to be super in depth; hp, attack per hit, cooldown) and a way to see how much per upgrade gives (brawl stars had this on launch) -stats on every enemy per level. some have different stat buffs all around -guaranteed uber/legend every capsule 11 draw. no reason to make them that rare and allow +levels on them. -speed up & CPU have to be unlimited, or they can be unlocked kinda how you get the cat god discounts. officers pass could change the rewards up to even more cat food or even xp and catseyes or fruits. Even if the stage is easy, going through an old stage for 2 minutes isn't productive vs. -30 seconds. -completely useless/joke units should have reworks to make them at least viable somewhere. Or, have the stats shown so we know instead of wasting xp on bad units. -NP needs to be easier to obtain. There are SO many upgrades, why not let the player obtain them all?? Cat food purchases ofc. The recent QoL with the newer ad rewards has been good, but it doesn't do anything to solidify the foundation of the game. Most new players don't feel the power curve because they're not exactly sure what to upgrade and what those upgrades do. Late game players spend time going back and forth on mygamatoto and youtube for guides. Make the game less desolate in terms of feedback and more streamlined for the player to enjoy on their own. I have been playing games for decades and in comparison to Dark Souls 2 I have looked up less guides on where to go in comparison to the battle cats. I love the game but the research chores are insane for a game this in depth and stingy on resources.
one thing i despise about the game its the lack of information of everything, no units stats, no enemy stats, no level stats like enemy unit limit
its the reason why bcu exist tho
@@fumledunoI feel like the lack of information for enemies and units is part of what makes this game special, I can't think of many games that do this when stats are important. Also the game is good even without visible stats, which is probably hard to pull off.
Agreed. It was such a relief playing metal slug attack and being able to see stats in game.
@@Kr1egsmesser lack of stats is also the reason why i engaged in the community in the first place!... and alsoo go into wiki and see what's in the stage........ and see if the unit you got is mediocre or not lol
hipteck1554 no after you play the level for the first time you can click on the level name and it’l give you info about the level and the enemy’s. And for the cats there is a literal cat info button under the cat icon!
I think the biggest problem is account recovery because losing all your data on ANYTHING is never a good thing
I wish more games had a way to reset all you progress so you could play them again
@@Dark139hunter Just make an alt account :/
@@CoropalPig not always an option
We need a account thing that when you sign on it, it gives you your account and 1 rare ticket, 30 cat food for signing
@@Dark139hunter in mobile you can clear the storage of an app, which removes everything you have from that app. This is an option that works nearly all of the time, unless there's something wrong with your phone.
the account recovery thing is real though I lost a 10k UR account a few years back because I lost my phone and when I contacted ponos multiple times each time they said the account was being played on and eventually stopped responding. I played so much on that account that Worker Cat was burned into my screen lol
That’s your fault, I easily recovered mine with my recovery code and other information
Genuinely tracked my seed cause i was tired of not finding surfer/castaway in my pulls only to find out that its still at least 300pulls away.
bro me to a long time ago this happened to me i tracked my seed and he was hundreds of pulls away
I started tracking my seed because I wanted need cat, I had to have and eleventh roll bc I re-rolled and that roll was nerd cat
YIKES
Bro I did about 500 rolls and he is still around a few hundred away
You can just wait for another banner
For me the only problem i have with battle cats is the energy system needs internet to refill which might not be a problem to a majority of people but for me internet is kinda limited.
But i do understand the measures they took to fix the energy refill glitch using device time.
Yeah I wish it was based off something else
You can just use mobile internet, you just have to have it for a minute and you'll get all energy you had to get dependinf on time you've waited ( yapping)
@@severus3625 yeah but I don't always have mobile data
The old battle cats was fun. You can play without energy, my brother is the one who played before showed me this game
Edit : i've been searching for old version of battle cats but no luck :( i want the no energy.
Funny thing is, there are still ways to bypass the energy limitation lmao
Holysheep i have 8 friggin years on this game and i just noticed the amount of flaws and lack of QOL features this game haves
They are making some QOL changes since last year (like the expanded enemypedia with their traits and skills) so i really hope they realize "ow man this game is 10 years old, maybe giving it cloud account sync is a good idea"
9:04 i myself have got a cursed seed, I've been playing one save file for 8 YEARS and have spend a good amount of money on Gacha and in my 8400 user rank it does NOT have Metal Cat, Gold Cat, Rich Cat lll, None of the Brainwashed cats, And ZERO LEGEND RARES.
Come on man i want metal cat so bad,
ROCK AND STONE!
FOR ROCK AND STONE!!!
It took me 3 years later to get metal cat and legend rares. I started tracking two years ago and got all legend rares, all BW cats, and all specials
I have 11K UR and I have Gold cat and Luminalia BUT I don’t have Metal cat nor any of the Brainwashed cats either. I can relate to an extent.
Those aren't key units so it's fine, I mean metal is very good and useful but not necessary. Also there's a lot of ubers better than legends, you technically don't need one but yeah unlucky. Though 8.4k user rank isn't too high, keep going hopefully stuff changes
see thats the thing i have an account with like 1300 user rank no money spent and i got a uber rare and the next pull a legend rare so if you get a unlucky seed well tough titty the game is gonna punish you for that
I’m getting my data recovered, sucks I have to wait like 5 days now, but thank god I have enough proof it’s my account to get it back. Really wish they made account recovery easier
Ponos could make treasure festival guaranteed chance for superior treasure and give more free powerups and leaderships as you progress through early game
Dude energy in beggining-early game is so limited. If it weren't for the abundant treasure festivals and half-energy cost periods that happened in early summerfest this year (which is actually when I started the game), I think it would've taken me a few more days to complete EoC and perfect all the treasures. Fortunately you get leaderships for every map beaten including SoL maps so I'm sailing quite smoothly now.
I think if they made it like that. The player would be underleveled because there is no use replaying a stage that you have a superior treasure.
@fasta5462 exactly, if ponos decided not to make treasure festival give guaranteed superior treasures then they should at least remove the whole energy system, this just makes the game more boring when you have to wait a couple of hours and even a whole day in some cases to recover your energy just to end up spending all of your energy trying to get superior treasures on 3 stages, then the cycle repeats
The energy system should be introduced in itf which makes sure u will be able to get leaderships while actually having energy bc in the beginner phase leaderships are hard to get and makes the energy system horrible
I have a minor cursed seed. I haven’t pulled a single weightlifter or swimmer, I have only played for a year though.
feel you brother it took me until almost 3k UR to pull my first salon cat, sadako cat, and even my first uber on my first account
I didnt pull my first weightlifter ultil late UL
I have this problem but for roe and I have 5k user rank and 10 Uber’s so I can say I’ve rolled the gacha a lot
Me with vaulter
im in 3k (close to lvl 30 crazed cats) yet i still dont have surfer yet
As a player whos been playing for a LONG time, (pre gamamoto era plus fungi cat and PPAP collabs). I agree with all your points, less so with the cursed seed part but its still a fair point. I have always wanted to recommend this game to my friends but the beginner process is so tedious and long I just cant bring myself to do it. I also see it with PONOS marketing and how they are starting to advertise to the west and all I see are beginner stages and cats and nothing that shows the fun mid and end game like crazed stages and such. If I were PONOS I would overhaul the beginning to make the grind not nearly as bad. But it will always be my favorite mobile game and I do see the course PONOS is taking with a few recent QOL updates so I have hope!
Same but I don't have the account with fungi cat anymore
they should make zombie stages give the treasure of the stage the zombied are on if the stage hasnt got superior yet
They do
They CAN. It's far from guaranteed.@@aohdan5713
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I had a cursed seed when I started 2 years ago. I bought 4500 catfood only to get 3 duplicate units. After that, I just had to go seed tracking.. Fast forward, I am 27kUR and just keeps on boring grinding cat tickets and rare tickets. The QoL for these things definitely need to get improved specially the autos. I'm losing my patience specially with the new units collabs that has not been happening for months.
very true
as someone who's replayed Empire of cats like 3 times because of the terrible account recovery, the beginning phase is pretty rough not only having lost units but also to grind the most annoying part of the game, i think just getting rid of that is good because at least into the future has some character to it, and cats of the Cosmo is its own annoying yet entertaining chpt
also what’s funny is you can skip the eoc with 1$ but not rlly good ig
Been playing for 4 years there is a lot of problems like not getting key gachas took 4 years to get can can, swimmer, ramen etc until a month ago
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4 years for those units is crazy y’all making me feel lucky asf
I have been playing battle cats for several years now and I STILL don’t have swimmer cat 😢.
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For cursed seeds - I rolled 100s of cats, possibly thousands, without a single octo. I beat all story chapters and part of UL without octo. Imagine supercat being your main wave-blocker....
Kid named power creep
I don’t think using gold CPU’s should be free. That would completely trivialize catfruit stages, and possibly make Ponos ruin them and make them limited like bstone stages.
I don’t think condensing all of the story chapters into 50 stages is a good idea. That would make the game way too short. You could just go with what Battle Cats Unite did and make each story mode have one chapter instead of 3. Keep in mind that a single bun bun is very difficult for most players in eoc, already reaching cotc like 30 stages after that is way too fast
I personally think Metal enemies are still one of the worst ideas design-wise in the game.
Thankfully there are a lot of options to deal with them nowadays, but it still doesn't excuse the fact some stages are still only won on a dice roll.
Agreed. Grinding elder seeds sucks when I get the metal continuation stage and I have paladin cat which makes it a coin toss instead of a dice roll but even then it's not easy to do and I still lose sometimes
Probably agreed, but destroying metal enemies once you've built up a bunch of strong anti metals and critters is fun.
@@calebmunkirs9661Fr bro just lost like 5 leaderships cause I kept getting the metal merciless stage
@@irun3yxw2k81 fr. I was grinding for like 14 elder seeds one day when I had the motivation to do it and every time the metal stage came up my heart dropped
Just get 🦖 cat
I have a small cursed seed. I haven’t got cyberpunk yet and only pulled 3 Ubers naturally. All my other ones were guaranteed. The guaranteed desert now is making me suffer
When I first started a few years ago I never knew what SoL was and never played it because it was hidden at the bottom of the legend stages. I think it would be more accessible for new players to make it into a different story chapter like EoC, ItF, and CotC, just without treasures. They could also expand on the UI allowing you to choose how many stars of difficulty you want to play on and maybe a stage filter for specific enemies to beat to clear the monthly kill quest challenges. Half energy cost events and a treasure chance-up event for SoL in this form would make new players want to grind the small rewards with a 1% drop more I think.
I made a new account around a month ago and early SoL just seems like EoC but with a few new enemies that match the same difficulty in new ways (Master A, Celeboodle, Dagshund, THE SLOTH, etc). New players that just beat EoC Chapter 1 would have a breeze through parts of early SoL until they have their first few challenges.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE SPEED UP AND CAT CPU STUFF.
I left battle cats because I was getting bored of grinding in the mid game for absolutely everything.
With the new feature of skipping battles with double cat CPU I returned.
But I'd have never left if the feature was introduced in the game a very while ago.
Btw W video and W guides. I don't blame you for wanting to leave Battle cats. I love this game, but I hate it's still so unpolished.
I haven't pulled a single legend rare in over 800 hours of playing, is that considered a cursed seed?
No, Legend Rares are just extremely rare.
"i can't afford a sixth yacht, am i poor?"
honestly lately ive ben wondering why battle cats has been so boring and this is excactly why another thing needed to be changed add more events and make them shorter cause these 15 day levels that are pretty easy and finished in 1 or 2 days stay there for soooo long and it make me lose my motivation to play the game
My suggestion to improve a bigginer phase is to try make different stages for each chapter not just a near copy and paste as most main story chapters are
Also speed ups being a free quality of life, 100% agreed i always question why so many games have speed up just like that but in battle cats you need to geind for them, because how speed ups are always limited I'm often discouraged from using them which makes some parts of the game even more boring than how they already are, like for example farming stages or uninteresting legend stages
With CPU tho i don't mind how it works right now mainly because CPU always was a very underused item so lot's of people had them stockpiled
I don’t think that speedups are a large problem, most levels do not need speedups to be fun. I can get through my 900 energy cap in 30 minutes, would I rather only have it for 15? The only situation I use speedups is when I am cyberstacking or grinding event tickets, but these situations are few and far between. I have over 400 stockpiled from early-game Gamatoto, lucky tickets, and other event tickets. I see no reason to run out, because I see little reason to use them. They make my timings half as accurate and reduce my time to play.
Speedups are also less useful in Battle Cats than the other Gacha games I have played because Battle Cats has around 10x the timing and APM of these other games.
for what it's worth I believe, when battle cats was released, selling qol was actually seen as one of the most ethical ways to monetize a free game
The whole Gacha system is so stupid, because like im done with all manics and have started Cotc and have like +1 CanCan, while some of my friends have like 2 legend rares and none of them have finished Itf (except for one, but hes actually good lol)
Even though I'm a person who has a blessed seed (My first multi in a banner I got Mococo and also 2 Ubers) I can admit how stressful it must be for people who have a bad seed, because not getting certain units just because the game doesn't want to give them to you, it's pretty annoying, besides a gacha game not really being gacha? Of course, this would break all the people who use seed tracking (myself included, but I only started because I wanted to use my legends tickets well). And about the account problem, this is a problem that I see with "old" gacha games (10 to 9 years old like FGO). They all tend to have a horrible account system that many people end up losing their accounts by accident. The cell phone ends up breaking, being stolen and so on.
ponos should hier boogle into their devs team, man you got all the problems and the solutions, loved it
you heard him Ponos, 100k a year and ill join!
I agree!!!
One issue I have with the Gacha system is that even if you grind for a bunch of rare tickets, you can’t even use them for a 11 draw
I know it isn’t major but it’s something that’s annoyed me for a while now
There needs to be a solid way to build cat food. I understand there are the legends path, but it feels so stagnant after the rush of clearing all event stages
Agreed. Cat food a pain to build up. Maybe Scratch off should be a weekly thing rather then a event exclusive thing? Idk
Ive played this game at least 5 times from the beginning (Not including 3ds and Switch versions), and the beginners stage is without a doubt absolutely, mindboggling tedious.
The Switch version kinda fixes it by making energy refills and continues only cost 3 catfood instead of 30, making treasure radars half the cost, only having 3 chapters and making the Cat Ticket stages drop rare tickets instead of normal Cat Tickets and I think it would be a really nice change for the mobile game.
Great Video!
I’ve been playing dokkan for years, and i can tell you that grinding medals is not compareable to grinding treasures. This is just because of the rng of treasures. I am also seriously stuck in battle cats i feel so restricted right now. I could def use some guidance.
another big problem you did not mention is the pixels i feel like afetr 10 years they should of def put more effort into the unit and its not just the old unit new unit are also bad pixel it makes it very annoying
I had one account years ago I got pretty far I had unlocked musashi had all the cyclone stages done. I think I was user rank $6,000 or something along those lines and I lost my account and it was just too painful. I stopped playing completely because of that and just recently came back and even as a returning player who had experience and knew what to do and how to make the grinds easier, I can definitely say the beginning portion is by far the worst. It's just there's no need for it to be so grindy. I totally agree on all the points you made about that
Yeah i just started 3 days ago and it's been... Not great.
It does feel really repetitive so far and find it annoying especially these chapters being copy and paste while also feeling like i can't use the gacha either while barely getting any xp.
I'm starting to burn out fast and it's kinda sad...
They recently added in a feature where you watch ads 10,000 XP, seems useful for beginners but basically useless middle/endgame
another issue that i think is important is Regular Cat tickets
A lot of progression is locked for your main cats, they're the main thing in the game
and considering silver gacha tickets, not only are shared between normal cats and upgrades but
If you want a true form for ar egular cat it could take hundreds of regular cat tickets , and PONOS drops them extremely rarely
once a day, or getting 2-3 whenever the facing danger stage appears or even more rarely Cybear is horrible
I'm already in CoTC ch2 and my eraser is still at 20+5 after like 200 tickets cuz it just doesnt seem to drop
Siege of hippo really should be at least 1 ticket guaranteed. Or slightly cheaper in energy cost. It's such an easy stage even without Critters. Wasting the 250 energy feels bad when you don't get anything. The silver cat tickets are so annoying to grind and having your main units so underwhelming throughout the early game. By the time you grind enough tickets you probably have one or two good Ubers, a few good rares and some specials. If it wasn't for restricted stages I wouldn't use most normals.
As a newbie, treasure grinding is a HUGE issue, im nearing the end of EoC Ch3, and i have almost no treasures so i've been forced to rely on ubercarrying for all the Moon stages. Now, since cat CPUs are a hot commodity early on, i cant even golden CPU + treasure radar my way to getting everything. Its PAIN.
HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE RED MI- fucking dies
@@polinanosova8976 Stop dying, mountain of smiling bodies is going to breach containment.
Yeah, I only got octo cat halfway through UL, I ended up getting EVA 00 as my first waveblocker as i never rolled kotatsu until doron ;-;
as an experienced battle cats player i have lost 3 battle cats accounts in the past (my last one of which i had 6500 user rank) so i had to resort to the battle cats unite. the battle cats unite dosen't repeat itself in the beginner phase so there is only 45 stages for each chapter. also it has really fun OP minigames
I started a mini account since I've reached the end game on my main save. You'd think grinding XP, fruits, and stages would be awful, but no the worst part was getting treasures. I forgot how tedious and awful it felt having to set a schedule to play during a treasure festival because for whatever reason whenever you have a good amount of leaderships saved up and have the mental capacity to play for an hour or so it never wants to appear. Both 24-hour festivals as well as 1-hour ones become elusive bigfoots. That's one of the main things I've never understood, just buff the drop rates for treasures and remove the festivals altogether. Why force players to go through the repetitive slop that is the story level’s (mainly EOC)? It got so bad to the point where I couldn't for the life of me get the treasures for ITC Ch3 so I just bought 60 treasure radars to finally move on and do SOL. It's crazy that they haven't changed this system. The fact they are required to get so you can move on to the best part of the game is annoying.
One thing I recommend to all players that struggle is to seed track🙏. This game sucks the life out of you when you try and work around not having a key gatcha unit. I remember for the longest I couldn't beat many alien stages on my main save because I didn't have surfer cat.
hundreds of different languages in the world and you decided to speak facts, i 100% agree with everythign you said
Or maybe just remove energy system
I played the game since the game initially had names based on Japanese prefectures I reset once cuz of a lost account and honestly the one thing I NEVER want to repeat is Story chapters. It's tedious to grind for treasures even with Treasure Festival. It should also have a pity if you grind say, 10x and don't get Superior treasures.
That being said, a lot of QoL features I didn't encounter since I came back from around v8.0 is like the double row, 2x Cat CPU clear, talents, etc. Powercreeping is surprisingly tame after all these years. So even if Battle Cats has these issues, the core game is still pretty good considering its been around for 10 years and counting.
honestly, I think the best solution for the beginning part would just be to make the treasure rate drop way way higher, like 3x higher. Or maybe a pity system that gives a guaranteed inferior after 3 clears, normal after 7, and superior after 15. Those seem like reasonable amounts, as I remember in the old days sometimes clearing stages in EoC 25 times and not getting full treasures.. Treasure grinding I think is an essential part of the game, and teaches you fundamentals along the way. You can even learn timing units and whatnot to speedrun stages when youre grinding. Condensing the 450ish levels of the main story chapters into one chapter would seem way too fast paced. The reason beating bun bun, bahamut, or the 3rd god stage feels so good is because of the journey beforehand. If all 9 bosses got mushed into 50 stages, thatd be a main story boss every 5 or so levels. That means something like the face shows up at the same rate as youd meet the first hippoe in Japan. Sure, it might get monotonous to beat these stages over and over, but if treasure drop rate is as high (or if pity system is implemented) youd still be making rapid progress in terms of cat research, base health, cannon stats, cat stats, and worker cat stats. And the feeling when you get that treasure activated feels so good, like a huge level-up. Ive also been playing since about September or October of 2014, just a few weeks after EN release, and have distinct memories of activating treasures and being blown away at how fast my money goes up, or my wallet size increased, or whatever treasure I got. I really enjoy the dynamic of early game, and I think the grind, as painful as it gets at times, is nearly essential to learn the game fully. The anticipation building up over 47 levels of beating the main story bosses 9 different times at the moon/big bangs is just too good to condense into a single chapter.
The reason all my friends stopped playing was Empire of Cats. I knew what was beyond (this is like my third or fourth play through) so the hope that eventually it would get fun made me keep going but they had no clue as to what the midgame/endgame was and so they had no reason to continue…
One issue I have about taking away the treasure grinding and shortening all 3 of the campaigns is the steeper XP cost.
If you're rolling the gatcha and getting those specialty units(anti-zombie, anti angle, etc.) you're going to need and lot more XP to level those units.
I wish u could have 1 account logged in on multiple devices. Would make it a lot easyer
The problem with early game specifically is that its the only time that you don't get to rest from treasure grinding. When you are done with EoC chapter 3 you will switch between into the future and stories of legends. Making event stages tailored for early game players that would introduce them to new enemies but weakened enough for them to be able to clear them. And rewards for clearing those stages could be xp, pickups or trasures on already completed lvls in EoC and maybe even into the future
The account recovery for me as well. I lost two accounts which I had progressed quite far and when trying to transfer over to a new phone, the code didn't work and PONOS weren't any help at all.
It's so frustrating 'cause you invest so much time to have it all go to waste. Just give the option as said to link to an email. Pretty much every other game has this option
I think there’s some good takeaways from bc unite on switch, specifically how the main chapters are presented. One chapter for each of the three, even though it feels slightly rushed. Pvp mode from bc unite would be a good addition as well, would be great for the 10th anniversary update
Lastly, I don’t mind the QoL currently, my only gripe is with the usefulness of Cat CPU. It would be nice in the pause menu mid battle you could select cats that the cpu can’t send out, say cat combos for instance. Legitimately my only issue.
Good vid otherwise boogle 👍 I agree with most of your opinions as well.
i personally started 2-3 months ago to play, im having alot of fun tbh
but yeah eoc was a lot of mental to get trough and telling myself that it was worth it "wich was worth" just whay to much treasure grind and waiting for treasure festivals.. it got to the point that i just threw my catfood away to get the clear on bunbun "not smart,i don't care"
as of now im about the 30s on chapter of legends "not stuck still going on"
i did use seed tracker "for me this existing means i have to use it... i played atleast 200 gacha games im tired to get shit rng+ i can motivate myself when i see something i want on the tracker xd
the only reason i buy the monthly gold pass is inf speed ups.. i don't think i can play the game without speed ups tbh
he even made a guide on how to make the game better for ponos
Newer player here. Just beat Chapter 3 Moon and trasure grinding really does feel bad. When I get lucky and get a superior in a few runs I don't really mind. But when I have to clear a single stage... SEVENTEEN TIMES.... Yeah it feels pretty bad.
On my main account I did not even get hip hop until I was in UL
i'm in ul2 and i still don't have hip hop
@@MoneyO2s Uncanny Legends. You unlock it by completing SOL (Stories of Legend)
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Some of the QoL id like to see would be changing costumes with changing form. I know it'd make some models wonky but there are upgraded forms that i just dont like the design of but i never want to use first forms because of power. And changing the background of the sliding doors once you unlock a new chapter it'd be nice to change through the different doors.
And stats. At this point just showing proc precentages would be enough. But at least they finally added cloud recovery.
my solution for the treasure problem would probably be exp rewards for each treasure set completed and catfood rewards for each treasure set maxed to superior. this would give new players a more visible incentive to grind these treasures. I will admit I'm not sure if this would solve the problem completely, but when I play a new chapter I always grind treasures as I go and its not as difficult of a grind.
I completely agree with the treasure festival becoming a guaranteed chance for a new treasure and believe that in pair with this would not only make treasure grinding less of a grind but also something new players would want to do.
personally I think the idea of missions rewarding treasures isn't exactly a good one, but that's my opinion. it just seems a little too difficult for the rewards you get, I got this idea from that by basically reversing it and this one wouldn't even be difficult to implement.
“Battle rats” is wild and 3OB3 is right now I’m at square one it’s kind of annoying because I had my inquiry code but then there were updates that meant you need a confirmation or wutever it was so I’m stuck
If u wanna ever bring up a good example of bad power creep, just look at Crash Fever and the Global version which is now EoS.
Global version has to buff units that release compared to their JP counterparts just to be usable (imagine a cat had critical chance on JP, but global had to buff it to savage blow to be usable at a base line), and the eventual addition of new Omega Quests ("super end game content" is a joke) required u to pull for the 2 new c65 banner units, as well as have a specific free to play unit from 3 years prior to be able to clear it.
9:15 they added so that you can link your account to your gmail, so that's not a problem now
If your new just keep making accounts until you get yourself a good seed for beginning if your not new and your seed sucks there’s nothing you can do and that sucks ngl
As a person stuck on itf chapter 3 moon I can say it only stops being tedious once you get to like Brazil chapter 2 with the exception of floating continent and moon
as someone who completely obliterated itf 3 moon (i definitely did not use lvl 30 catman for it) i recommend psycho cat and wheel cat true form, and if you dont have all superior treasures they're probably the first thing you should be getting tbh
as someone who completely obliterated itf 3 moon (i definitely did not use lvl 30 catman for it) i recommend psycho cat and wheel cat true form, and if you dont have all superior treasures they're probably the first thing you should be getting tbh
@@ex-cringemaxxer I already have all the treasures that affect chapter 3 moon but thanks for the true form tips
My issue with this game is that it's very hard to figure out the path forward for unlocks and progress. I haven't played in months and have no idea what cats I'm missing, what stages are relevant, or what i should be working towards next.
I think maybe condense each of the three chapters of eoc, itf and cotc into one chapter each, and thats the main chapter, essentially the same amount of unique gameplay anyways
Bro is right he said exactly what is say with everything like the treasure and I stop playing battle cat the first time I played I quit because of bun bun but I downloaded it again it I finally beat it and I like the game even more and i feel bad for the people who start late game.
About "cursed seeds". I'm not playing this game for a long time already. I'm somewhere on urs in ul and i still don't have medalist cat lol
RIP
I kind of like the chapters being fairly long, but for gods sake GIVE ME SOMETHING THAT ISN’T A COPY AND PASTE OF THE LAST CHAPTER. I would like it if for EOC, ITF, and COTC you battle separate locations from the last chapter, and the few stages that were fought in the last chapter that you still fight should have different stage designs with different enemies. The essential checkpoints like floating continent, great abyss, some of the special only restrictions for COTC, etc. Also, DEFINITELY agree on the “guarantee a tier of treasure” rule during treasure fest. No one likes clearing a stage a bunch of times for nothing.
i mostly agree but i think instead if putting ALL story chapters into one chapter with fifty levels i'd say just make it so EoC, ItF and CotC all only have one chapter instead of three, its longer yes but i think the idea of "after EoC start to focus on legend stages" and "after ItF make sure you have certain true forms or special stage units" cause that just makes progression easier to understand, with treasure changes i completely agree though, i'd say EoC could benefit from tips saying how you're actually supposed to play the game, good video though
I wasn't going to link my account to an email but this video has convinced me, I don't think anyone wants to lose years worth of progress on something you are invested in, even if that thing is bad for your wellbeing(I don't have a problem i swear).
In my opinion a big issue is like early game when you only get 7 rare tickets in eoc (empire of cats) and no more in the other chapter of eoc so you get the units you get and no more for a while
Another problem is....
THE ISLAND OF HIDDEN TREASURES.
My angel units don't seem to make any difference or seem to damage the enemies,
How do I beat these levels to obtain angel item rewards when I can't beat the level??
if you cant beat the stage you dont need those items
Totally agree with the beginning of game grind. I have a second account and have to push myself to finish ITF3 ( almost there, though) I often just play my primary account, it’s more interesting.
I think both treasure festival and Z-medals should guarantee treasures. If PONOS is too afraid to merge all the chapters into one like you suggested, at the very least they could change EOC chapter 2 & 3’s level design by using different enemies (like some slighty nerfed SOL enemies) to at least add some element of surprise for new players to encounter as they go along.
Honesty the only reason why I started tracking my seed is simply because I have been playing this game for ages, I have a lot of cats (and I mean a lot) but I somehow never seemed to get a legend rare. When I started researching how seeds work I realised how flawed the gacha system truly was.
I try to stay away from looking at anything except for how far away my next legend rare is. Mainly because I am a collector and legends are still so hard to get (I only have 4 legends even though I genuinely have the best seed I’ve ever seen. Not even joking when I say that I had 2 legend rares IN A ROW!)
Thus I can start collecting legends while also having the excitement of “random” Ubers.
big agree, when I returned to a new account 3 or so months ago I decided to hack in 300 treasure radars just to skip treasure grinding. i also hacked in 200 cat cpu’s because i agree that skipping completed stages shouldnt be so hard. this is not a hacks account btw- i have actually bought the officer’s pass and other things that require real money. i just feel like if i didnt hack in those things, the game wouldve just been a worse experience.
My biggest problem with the game right now is that my next major step in progression is multiple weeks of simply grinding cat fruit and waiting for tickets. Empire of cats has been 100%'d but Into the future 1 is 100% but I've hit 2 and started to stall out with what I've got. I assume this is about the time I start trying to unlock the eraser clone but... I just picked up battlecats on switch instead.
ive reset the game a few times cause of lost save data and found the best way to deal with empire of cats is to delete and redownload the game after japan and the free starter stuff till you get smt like kaza jizo you can rush the first three chapters
I’ve actually come to like the new ad options as they don’t interfere with gameplay at all and act as a way for the player to grind for more by doing less. As well as having it as an option to continue a stage every so often to save gotcha pull especially when you have to grind sol due to finishing the main chapters faster than you thought you would. As I’m at the point where I can’t do anything till I get to and beat the fist chapter of UL to true form the legend special units, and to get relic fruits. Also does anyone know when brainwash units come back into rotation been saving my cat food and my discounted gotcha rolls.
Yoo account linking is finally here, no more losing accounts!!!!
I have not gotten swimmercat yet, and ive played for almost four years now with four different legend rares and One of them Even heving +2
I really think for the seed problem, every non uber (who consistenly shows up in the roll pool) should be obtainable in like 200 rolls, and also the garenteed uber should just, not use the seed, or its own seed, or anything that isnt replacing what could be the only anti-alien cat for many MANY rolls. Heck I think the playthrough I did which I based my review on was cursed and lacked anti-alien gacha units. Which is kind of a problem with how powerful aliens are.
The seed consept isnt bad, its the exacusion that is questionable to say the least.
It took my like a year to get all the key gacha super rare units cuz I only got surfer, can can, swimmer and pizza once I got to cats into the cosmos my seed was kinda cursed.
I would LOVE cloud saves that are linked to an (optional) account with password and all. What I would love even more is having the ability to have multiple accounts on the same device. Imagine the youtube thumbnail potential: I OPEND 100 SUPERFEST CAPSULES
I hope ponos will notice this problems and rework the battle cats to even better experience for beginners,mid gamers,and end gamers.Btw advance happy 10 anniversary
Battle cats.
I think having just three chapters for the whole main saga would be nice. Chapter 1 being eoc, chapter 2 being itf, and chapter 3 being cotc. They can keep Aku realms as a seperate thing as well.
Battle cats unite does this! (Played it myself, much more engaging, but for much less time compared to the original)
I lost my account years ago cause I forgot to get the code and lost literal years of time invested into the game. Including things like collab units, true form units I had boosted, Ubers, story progress, everything. And I never really thought about it until watching this video but it’s left me so burnt that I haven’t picked the game up since.
Another thing to add to the QOL is that there's no units stats shown in game & this info can only be obtained outside of game. Like learning red riding Mina is a good couter vs R.Ost. but they just tell you the units abilities in the cat guide not important info like standing range and dps. This doubles for the enemy guide which is even more useless like it gives random lore no one cares about. Like bruh new players wanna know what killed them and if the enemy can't be effected by certain effects.
14:39 I think combining it all into one extremely long chapter would be bad. I'd rather they do what they already did in TBC Unite. There they condensed the 9 main chapters into just 3 (called Empire of Cats, Into the Future, and Cats of the Cosmos). And about the treasur missions I remember thinking it would be fun if they added thre missions that would guarantee a gold treasure if you completed all three for the stage when I did self-imposed challenges while grinding treasures.
I have some of the best units I can get at the stage of the game I’m in, and I’m working to get all the crazed cats. But I just can’t pull salon no matter how many spins I do. It’s starting to tick me off as I lack good spam aoe generalists, only castaway/drama cats
I have did 11 rare ticket draws on the uberfest for 3 times and I didnt get a single uber, like wtf
My main issue is how long it takes to get strong enough to clear ITF. I’ve been stuck between SOL and limited stages trying to get good units, I could clear ITF 1 but that’s not very useful for me
I've been missing octopus for decently long now. I have pretty much every other key gacha and I've done a few 11 draws, but I have yet to get octopus. I'm currently at the point in the game before Musashi, getting manic and li'l cats, CoTC 2, first half of Aku realm, advents, etc.
take a step in the bubble where i have to beat aku cyclone on part 2/5 of the 10th anniversary event as a midgame player and you see the real powercreep
Bro i'm ngl if anything I want the whole treasures thing revamped im genuinely losing interest grinding cotc treasures I can't do it man 😭i swear i have to clear each one like 6 times for superior even during treasure fest
100%
For me, the lack of rewards is such a huge problem, like for other gacha games you can get 10 pulls just for playing in about 1-2 weeks, but for the battle cats I played for nearly a month just to get a 10 pulls, also I do think the gacha system need some kind of pity system where you could get guaranteed Uber for the current banner, I get it the company want to make money, but it's a gacha game, so the main thing is all about the gacha, maybe PONOS can increase the amount of rewards or just create a new reward system where for examples you clear 1 stage you get like 5 cat food or something like that. So yeah, for me the reason I quit battle cats is just because of the rewards
Seeds are randomly generated too. The only real difference is if you look at your seed. the chances of you getting screwed over by rng each roll or rng for a whole seed is the same
I have had to look up nearly everything in this game. I wish there was a closer analysis button that told you everything
Game needs:
-stats on every unit (doesn't need to be super in depth; hp, attack per hit, cooldown) and a way to see how much per upgrade gives (brawl stars had this on launch)
-stats on every enemy per level. some have different stat buffs all around
-guaranteed uber/legend every capsule 11 draw. no reason to make them that rare and allow +levels on them.
-speed up & CPU have to be unlimited, or they can be unlocked kinda how you get the cat god discounts. officers pass could change the rewards up to even more cat food or even xp and catseyes or fruits. Even if the stage is easy, going through an old stage for 2 minutes isn't productive vs. -30 seconds.
-completely useless/joke units should have reworks to make them at least viable somewhere. Or, have the stats shown so we know instead of wasting xp on bad units.
-NP needs to be easier to obtain. There are SO many upgrades, why not let the player obtain them all?? Cat food purchases ofc.
The recent QoL with the newer ad rewards has been good, but it doesn't do anything to solidify the foundation of the game. Most new players don't feel the power curve because they're not exactly sure what to upgrade and what those upgrades do. Late game players spend time going back and forth on mygamatoto and youtube for guides. Make the game less desolate in terms of feedback and more streamlined for the player to enjoy on their own. I have been playing games for decades and in comparison to Dark Souls 2 I have looked up less guides on where to go in comparison to the battle cats. I love the game but the research chores are insane for a game this in depth and stingy on resources.