Herbert Marcuse interviewed by Helen Hawkins (1979)

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  • @ekkiazure
    @ekkiazure Год назад +28

    I love how she ends the interview ascribing a certain opinion to her audience - that of disagreeing with Marcuse, seeking to modulate it to the constraints of a hegemonic position, in place of solely presenting the content and allowing them to draw their own conclusions, thereby clearly exemplifying the criticism put forth by Marcuse and the Frankfurt School in respect to the cultural industry.

  • @henryberrylowry9512
    @henryberrylowry9512 5 лет назад +99

    Marcuse as an unclear writer? Reason and Revolution explained Hegel so clearly to me, that it catipulted my interest in not only studying him and Kant, but motivating me to learn German.

    • @michaelsieger9133
      @michaelsieger9133 5 лет назад +4

      yeah he's an unbelievably lucid conveyer of ideas

    • @jonathanbailey1597
      @jonathanbailey1597 5 лет назад +3

      Omniscient 1 so, did you come to that conclusion before or after you (didn’t) read his stuff?

    • @miropribanic5581
      @miropribanic5581 5 лет назад +5

      well done, Marcuse and Habermas....maybe the last Mohicans of that great tradition of German philosophers

    • @crsbeats5509
      @crsbeats5509 4 года назад +3

      @@miropribanic5581 Habermas is really not

    • @Wolfsky9
      @Wolfsky9 4 года назад

      To " Pearlman Fredy : YOU were able to understand Hegel, by reading Marcuse ???-------Well, I congratulate you; I tried-----yes, I did, but I found Professor Marcuse just as unclear, & impossible to understand in any systematic way, as I did Hegel.-------HEGEL ! OMG !! ---------Impossible. -------------And, I tried, I really did. -----------As a college student in the late 60's, early 70's, I found the novels & poems of Hermann Hesse to be far more entertaining, & even if you will, " meaningful". ---------Between Herr Hesse, & Dr Victor Frankel's works , I found intellectual challenge & reward ; with Hegel, Marx, & Marcuse, it was only confusion--- with entire paragraphs & chapters, wholly impossible to understand. That said, I will say, THOSE WERE, the days, My friend., & we thought they'd never --------ever-------end.--------------------------Wolfsky9, 73 y/o

  • @haroldmarcuse4839
    @haroldmarcuse4839 6 лет назад +28

    The interviewer is Helen Hawkins, not HawkinXgXs: "Helen S. Hawkins, Ph.D., was a producer & host of KPBS humanities programs, an historian, co-founder and first president of San Diego National Organization for Women, and publications director for the Institute on Global Conflict and Cooperation. ... In the late 1970s Dr. Hawkins joined KPBS television as Executive Producer of Humanities programming. During her 6 years there she produced more than 100 television programs, many of which focus on women's rights and issues of the time. Her work received an Emmy and a silver gavel from the American Bar Association."
    I wonder why previous commenters Peter Pam and Keith Yohai get so upset and angry and frustrated listening to someone who sees deficits in society and tries to correct them. Their comments seem so out of proportion to me, why so defensive??

    • @AfroMarxist
      @AfroMarxist  6 лет назад +2

      Harold Marcuse Thanks.

    • @dakkar66
      @dakkar66 6 лет назад +3

      The question is: defensive for whom? I live in Brazil, where for 13 years, they tried to establish a society in the mold of the Frankfurt School and the only concrete result, besides one of the highest rates of violence mortality, was the election of an extreme right, which I do not like and I had to elect for lack of future. These theories cause marginal changes in developed economies, but in undeveloped countries they generate dysfunctional societies.

    • @henryberrylowry9512
      @henryberrylowry9512 5 лет назад +10

      @@dakkar66 Bolsanero didn't ascend to power because of Marxism, Communism, Socialism or Marcuse. He ascended to power because of billions of dollars trickling down from the imperialist centers of capital starving out the economies who attempt to negate the aforementioned.
      You didn't have to vote for him, nor anyone else. You could have taken the route of George Carlin, seen voting for the waste of time it is (at least under capitalism), and stayed home.

    • @dakkar66
      @dakkar66 5 лет назад

      @@henryberrylowry9512 Well, you're partially right. Bolsonaro was elected because of the billions of dollars, but the billions stolen by a leftist party that wanted to keep in power through electoral corruption.
      And in Brazil, voting is mandatory. We can not stay at home. :(

    • @dipthongthathongthongthong9691
      @dipthongthathongthongthong9691 4 года назад +6

      @@dakkar66 This didn't age well did it? Lula is free and has been vindicated. Vile reactionary fascists at the helm backed by the US and Israel.

  • @haimbenavraham1502
    @haimbenavraham1502 2 года назад +9

    A very insightful interview, before the rise of internet.

  • @JohnDoe-wy1yd
    @JohnDoe-wy1yd 5 лет назад +27

    Marcuse passed away 3 months after this interview.

    • @danielgolus4600
      @danielgolus4600 4 года назад +2

      Yeah!!! Wish he kicked the bucket decades before.

    • @imagine07018
      @imagine07018 3 года назад +11

      @@danielgolus4600 Glad that your wishes don't mean shit.

    • @relaxingsounds1386
      @relaxingsounds1386 3 года назад +5

      not soon enough

    • @bunangst8415
      @bunangst8415 3 года назад +1

      Getting crisp roasting in hell next to his heroes Mao and Pol Pot no doubt.

    • @33onlytwin
      @33onlytwin 3 года назад +11

      @@danielgolus4600 You've probably never read a word of his actual work. Bet you've watched a lot of videos about 'cultural Marxism' though.

  • @MatrixMav
    @MatrixMav 2 года назад +5

    She is a very good interviewer

  • @ADAMSIXTIES
    @ADAMSIXTIES 4 года назад +16

    April 25th, 1979, 3 months before he nonrepressively desublimated. 5:50 This is a key contradiction of Marxism: Marxism states that revolution is inevitable, however followers prompt revolution. Marcuse states that he just give facts, and the students realize from those facts they must revolt. His book should be called Irrational Man: an Autobiography .

    • @urruvar
      @urruvar Месяц назад

      Pompous narcissist is a better title

  • @MrWholphin
    @MrWholphin 2 года назад +23

    Delusional utopianism. This is how men go mad when God is ׳dead’

  • @pfhastie
    @pfhastie 24 дня назад

    His eyes are very close together.

  • @Trinitypater
    @Trinitypater 2 года назад +2

    I love his interviewer!

    • @roberthockett270
      @roberthockett270 Год назад

      A true hero of the 1970s. Died crazy young of cancer - terrible premature loss.

  • @MatrixMav
    @MatrixMav 2 года назад +3

    Utopia means ‘no place’

    • @janetwhite7786
      @janetwhite7786 2 года назад +1

      I did not know that. Apt, huh?

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Год назад +1

      The original meaning of the word in it's original use in the text Utopia by Sir Thomas More actually meant "good place" the author even said so.
      "In English, Utopia is pronounced the same as Eutopia (the latter word, in Greek Εὐτοπία [Eutopiā], meaning "good place," contains the prefix εὐ- [eu-], "good", with which the οὔ of Utopia has come to be confused in the English pronunciation).[5] That is something that More himself addresses in an addendum to his book: Wherfore not Utopie, but rather rightely my name is Eutopie, a place of felicitie."
      Full title "Utopia (Latin: Libellus vere aureus, nec minus salutaris quam festivus, de optimo rei publicae statu deque nova insula Utopia,[1] "A truly golden little book, not less beneficial than enjoyable, about how things should be in a state and about the new island Utopia")"
      Which is fucking bizzare because the utopia he outlines was a fucked up patriarchal slave owning place that punished premarital sex.

  • @kent6619
    @kent6619 3 года назад +8

    Would have liked to hear more of his treatment of the idea of "surplus repression" as it relates to current discussions around big tech: selective deplatforming, cancel culure, etc. Pressures from the government put on big tech as a form of surplus repression in the public square. Coaxing the currrent progeny of the "New Left" of Marcuse's time into being cheerleaders for this "surplus repression." Marcuse does indeed admit here that there has always been violence, and that counter-violence is the only acceptable form of violence. Are not these repressive, stifling actions of big tech the same repressive, violent acts in a different form? And although the form of repression is different, the function is certainly the same: to silence the opposition with one hand and to use the other to write shallow justifications of their hypocrisy without admitting to the hypocrisy. And without publicly owning their own violence (repression).
    I have always been interested in Marcuse since I read "The Making of a Counterculture" before going to the university. But aligning him directly with the hypocrisy of a power discourse which serves itself to conceal its own violence within accusations of systemic racism, a demand for "equity" over "equality," pushing the narrative of "rampant" police brutality, etc. is deceptive.

    • @relaxingsounds1386
      @relaxingsounds1386 3 года назад +2

      Marcuse would be on the side of big tech today.

    • @TheInnerPact
      @TheInnerPact 10 месяцев назад

      Yet, defined as leftist in favor of democracy

  • @geoffreynhill2833
    @geoffreynhill2833 2 года назад +4

    Still very relevant, maybe even more so. 🌈🦉

    • @toxendon
      @toxendon Год назад

      Definitely more relevant, unfortunately

  • @dangerousideas5356
    @dangerousideas5356 3 года назад +7

    "someone who takes a free and democratic society seriously". if that's a marxist i guess that's me.

    • @bunangst8415
      @bunangst8415 3 года назад +1

      No. There’s absolutely no way you can classify Marxists as people who, “Take a free and democratic society seriously.” Bite your tongue.

    • @juanmccoy3066
      @juanmccoy3066 2 года назад

      Im a Marxist and I hate liberal democracy. What I get out of Marxism is that it's counter revolutionary if anything

  • @Naa-ee7nq
    @Naa-ee7nq 3 года назад +3

    Funny, I strongly disagree with Marcuse on which of his books is better. He thinks Eros and Civilisation is better than One-Dimensional Man. Noooo way. One-Dimensional Man is his best one by far and one of the most important books in the 20th century, even though I have strong philosophical disagreements with him.

  • @emale03
    @emale03 2 года назад +10

    "Repressive tolerance" = p. c. Censorship

    • @sikkaMass
      @sikkaMass Год назад

      it's good to censor nazi scum.

    • @jimkost2002
      @jimkost2002 Год назад

      emale03, you are too diplomatic, what Marcuse puts forth is pure tyrrany and totalitarianism. Remember that utopia=nowhere

  • @anthonycostello6055
    @anthonycostello6055 Год назад +4

    Marcuse, another brilliant German thinker, who was wrong about just about everything.

    • @micheledibenedetto7780
      @micheledibenedetto7780 Год назад +2

      Awesome , in the green and pleasant land of the English Countryside i salute your humour and accuracy

    • @micheledibenedetto7780
      @micheledibenedetto7780 Год назад

      Another waffling bugger like marx never did a days work in his life and sponged a living telling all and sundry what was best for them , ponced off engels for a living and managed to look very well fed

  • @frederickanderson1860
    @frederickanderson1860 Год назад +1

    The greeks ideal of a utopian society! Was governed by a philosoper king. Marcus Aurelius was a perfect type.

  • @fortiacstrenuo-36xy
    @fortiacstrenuo-36xy Год назад +8

    I love how advocates of societal projects are able to put the imposition of their ideas on everyone and the word "freedom" in the same sentence. A good society needs to be good for everyone, and what is good is relative to each individual and encompasses an infinity of factors. Every model of society is the imposition of one person's model on all others, and by definition, always carries the seed of totalitarianism. Not even Jesus had a recipe for society, just render to Caesar what is Caesar's. He just came to prepare souls for transcendence. Nothing more delusional than love and passion for a future society created in your own head from which you judge the present real world.

  • @ChicagoTurtle1
    @ChicagoTurtle1 3 года назад +1

    It’s not that we have a position that can prevent large scale inhumanity, as discussed here on the topic of tolerance that led to Nazism and WW2. It’s that the default stance that permits such inhumanity to expand, to begin with, is what’s at fault. Certainly we had a chance to circumvent the Nazi expansion - most prominently in 1936 with the coup by Franco, supported by Hitler and Mussolini. The British and French non-interventionist insistence, even after the aerial bombing of Guernica, is one strong evidence. It’s actually one of the reasons why Guernica is so prominent in modern European history.

  • @miloslavdrtinabohemus2145
    @miloslavdrtinabohemus2145 Год назад +1

    Roger Scruton criticized leftist philosophers well

  • @geoffreynhill2833
    @geoffreynhill2833 Год назад +1

    Fast Forward to Chris Hedges & Cornel West 2023... 😉

    • @geoffreynhill2833
      @geoffreynhill2833 Год назад

      read my green fire tommy & ruthie's blues amazon

    • @cl5619
      @cl5619 Год назад

      Rewind to Lenin, Stalin and Mao

    • @ADAMSIXTIES
      @ADAMSIXTIES 7 месяцев назад

      Marcuse just turned over in his grave.

    • @geoffreynhill2833
      @geoffreynhill2833 7 месяцев назад

      @@ADAMSIXTIES I wish he'd got up and come back, Adam, and bequeathed his resting place to NERO-Liberalism. 😎👺😵‍💫
      🤔(Green Fire, UK.)🌈🦉Best Wishes, Geoff Nelson Hill, author, IngramSpark.

  • @BambiOnIce19
    @BambiOnIce19 6 лет назад +24

    I so agree with him - dissent is tolerated only to the degree where it is not disruptive to any society. And conformity is oppressive, without a doubt.

    • @terenceboris851
      @terenceboris851 5 лет назад +2

      sounds like 60s stuff. we're 50 years beyond that now.

    • @danielgolus4600
      @danielgolus4600 4 года назад +10

      You fail to realize that left-wing "conformity" that we have today - in which you are to be destroyed if you disagree with their extreme one-sided view - is FAR more oppressive, without a doubt!

    • @Naa-ee7nq
      @Naa-ee7nq 3 года назад

      preconditions for any functional and moderately stable society

    • @relaxingsounds1386
      @relaxingsounds1386 3 года назад +3

      conformity to what?
      as an example: you could conform to Marcuse's ideas. would that be oppressive?

  • @markofsaltburn
    @markofsaltburn 2 года назад +8

    Sit back, kick off your shoes, roll up a banana skin, click newest first, and enjoy the 13-year-old commentators who don’t even watch the video.

    • @1thomson
      @1thomson 2 года назад

      I was about to say something along the same lines, but you got there first. Damn it. I wanted all the credit for being both insightful and witty. But, you should get the gold ring ... this time. Try not to hog all the glory. That would just be rude. 🤨

  • @LuceroLucifer
    @LuceroLucifer 5 лет назад +12

    I wish I could get with a group of openminded people who actually want to problem solve and revolutionize. like, what strategies, ideas, images, words can we create that will entice the public to act in counter-violence against the system and the death drive. how can we bring attention to to this so that people can weigh their minds and actually come to a critical conclusion that revolt is the only key to freedom?

    • @ricardocima
      @ricardocima 5 лет назад +9

      Get a job.

    • @danielgolus4600
      @danielgolus4600 4 года назад +1

      Go to Venezuela. Go to Cuba. Jest get the H out of here.

    • @theamici
      @theamici 3 года назад

      Yes, I think there is a shortage of invested explorative debate these days. But the best thing we can do about is try to seize the initiative for such debates ourselves!

    • @smokepcpheilwotan5874
      @smokepcpheilwotan5874 3 года назад +1

      Western leftists are too mentally ill and economically comfortable to actually do anything

    • @paulelago9453
      @paulelago9453 3 года назад

      @@ricardocima 😂😂😂😂

  • @BinanceUSD
    @BinanceUSD 2 года назад

    Peaceful revolution is Bitcoin

  • @RollieHudson1
    @RollieHudson1 2 месяца назад

    “I’m sure many Americans would disagree with many of your views if not all of them…” Really? That’s what she ends the interview with? She got her last little nasty-gram in before they go off the air. How unprofessional… and inaccurate.

  • @urruvar
    @urruvar Месяц назад

    Watch a pompous man child absolve himself of any accountability

  • @FYikai
    @FYikai 4 года назад +11

    what a BIG CUDDLY BEAR i love when i find out the people i read are actually lovely

    • @danielgolus4600
      @danielgolus4600 4 года назад +2

      WTF? There's nothing "lovely" about this despicable jerk. If I was there I'd smash his "lovely" face in for all the extreme left-wing brainwashing damage he's done.

    • @diego67hd94
      @diego67hd94 3 года назад +6

      @@danielgolus4600 glad to know the right wing can’t come up with an argument and must rely on violence

    • @carrollshipley3874
      @carrollshipley3874 3 года назад +2

      @@diego67hd94 yeah unlike Antifa 😂

    • @diego67hd94
      @diego67hd94 3 года назад +2

      @@carrollshipley3874 still can’t believe antifa were allowed to riot at our nation’s capital, those geniuses were antifa right????

    • @johnlong123long
      @johnlong123long 3 года назад +1

      ​@@diego67hd94 errr... have you understood his repressive tolerance?

  • @alvaromd3203
    @alvaromd3203 Год назад +1

    I don’t like her tone; I feel that it doesn’t stimulate the debate, despite of her intelligence. Marcuse deserves a more open and empathetic approach, as he has more to offer.

  • @pedrozaragoza2253
    @pedrozaragoza2253 2 года назад +4

    You can expose a liar and a hypocrite when they say they want freedom through violence.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Год назад +6

      Because slaves gain freedom from nicely and politely asking the master right?

    • @condimentofmassdestruction9114
      @condimentofmassdestruction9114 7 месяцев назад

      Freedom is not always given and that freedom you enjoy today is not given peaceful matter. A slave and oppressed people can hardly get liberty and freedom through ‘peace’ they have to fight for it. Stop being a naive idiot.

  • @dakkar66
    @dakkar66 6 лет назад +1

    I believe she foresaw the "snake egg".

  • @ZOGGYDOGGY
    @ZOGGYDOGGY 3 года назад +1

    ‘The rejection of capitalism may never have huge realworld consequences. “We should ditch capitalism, and try a
    socialist alternative” may well be the political equivalent of
    “One day, I will learn a foreign language, run a marathon, and
    write a novel”. It may be an idea that is popular as an abstract
    aspiration, but less so as a concrete action plan’ (p.17).
    Unfortunately, this is fair comment.
    However, there will be some significance that, amongst
    younger people today, capitalism has become a ‘bad word’:
    ‘Young people associate “socialism” predominantly with
    positive terms, such as “workers”, “public”, “equal” and “fair”.
    (...) Capitalism, meanwhile, is predominantly associated
    with terms such as “exploitative”, “unfair”, “the rich” and
    “corporations”’ (p.7)
    That can’t be a bad thing.
    ADAM BUICK

  • @Phil.2-10
    @Phil.2-10 3 года назад +20

    Marcuse - the pavemaker for identity socialism. Thumbs down!

  • @israelvargas479
    @israelvargas479 5 лет назад +34

    This man was a subversive and destructive monster.

    • @0SW13
      @0SW13 5 лет назад +28

      of the very best kind

    • @stfnba
      @stfnba 5 лет назад +10

      Yep, that's why he like him.

    • @jonathanbailey1597
      @jonathanbailey1597 5 лет назад +24

      Yes, and what he wanted to destroy is well worth destroying!

    • @9000ck
      @9000ck 5 лет назад +15

      To want to subvert and destroy oppressive forces is highly admirable in my opinion.

    • @terenceboris851
      @terenceboris851 5 лет назад +2

      @@9000ck : yeah that sounds sexy but hierarchies will exist no matter what. power doesn't necessarily equate to oppression.

  • @Jersey-towncrier
    @Jersey-towncrier 11 месяцев назад

    If you have no tolerance for intolerence, then you have to count yourself among the targets of your intolerence. Hypocrisy, therefore, necessarily governs the ideas of Marcusé, and he thus makes the worst of all possible soul sicknesses into an institution.

  • @Joeyo71296
    @Joeyo71296 5 лет назад +12

    he seems such a sweetheart here

    • @danielgolus4600
      @danielgolus4600 4 года назад

      I want to smash-in his "sweetheart" face in!

  • @frederickanderson1860
    @frederickanderson1860 Год назад

    The Russian revolution of 1917 was not violent. The Eisenstein movie of the storming of the winter palace was not based on fact.

  • @jasonhuntchicago
    @jasonhuntchicago 2 года назад

    He was a gov asset

  • @WendyKroyy
    @WendyKroyy Год назад +1

    One of the most evil people in history

    • @stopmakingeyesatme1290
      @stopmakingeyesatme1290 2 месяца назад

      You are free to dislike Marcuse as much you you'd like, but I also recommend reading more history.

    • @WendyKroyy
      @WendyKroyy 2 месяца назад

      @@stopmakingeyesatme1290 yeah yeah - I read the entire New Left, Frankfurt School, etc etc - it’s mostly degenerate garbage

    • @WendyKroyy
      @WendyKroyy 2 месяца назад +1

      I prefer Rothbard and Hoppe

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 Год назад

    Purpose of philosophy? To develop a theory of knowledge. This theory can then be applied to true scientific thinking in all its domains, such as psychology in the study and critique of society and the individual; economics; history; biology; physics; astronomy, forensics, rules of evidence, etc.
    Without such a theory, all attempts to explain phenomena are mere baseless claims or wishful thinking with no theoretical validity.

  • @friendlyfire7861
    @friendlyfire7861 11 месяцев назад

    He says Nazis should have been suppressed is oart of trying to distance his communism from that left-wing movement, which are in face basically the same thing. That's a lie that has been around far too long.

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker 2 года назад +4

    communist claptrap;
    capitalism has won, get over it.

    • @JoseSantos-kc6om
      @JoseSantos-kc6om 2 года назад

      Wokeness won, Marcuse won.

    • @TheWhitehiker
      @TheWhitehiker 2 года назад +1

      @@JoseSantos-kc6om dream on, Jose!

    • @JoseSantos-kc6om
      @JoseSantos-kc6om 2 года назад

      More like a nightmare, but I like your optimism

    • @TheWhitehiker
      @TheWhitehiker 2 года назад +1

      @@JoseSantos-kc6om hell is a long way down.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Год назад +1

      The lack of a wider view leading to the delusion of permanency as usual.

  • @juanmccoy3066
    @juanmccoy3066 2 года назад +4

    This is why I can't get into Marcuse. He really is the godfather of today's left. Like i can read Horkheimer and Adorno and agree with a lot even where I disagree I can say wow that's a good point. I like that.
    I find it a lot harder with Marcuse. He just oozes what today we call hipsterism even when talking about his own work "oh Eros is much better"... classic "dirt bag" leftist bullshit.
    The stuff I do agree with comes from Horkheimer or Hegel or Freud or Marx and Engles themselves. If u got rid of the accent and added a silver pony tail the dude would be identical to any random west coast liberal arts professor.
    Whine whine whine, but no damn solution. When u actively try to find some in his work or even his interviews u get vague references to violent revolution. So that's all I'm left with... or vague references about Marxian democratic revolution. Yeah, I'm still waiting on Bernie Sanders. Let me tell yall something AOC isn't gonna be the one to do it. The whole demsoc movement was bought by the bourgeoisie wholesale. It ain't happening. Any concessions u get under these fucking people, these goddamn coastal intellectuals and their cronies is going to be social democracy repackaged.
    U think the libertarians are bought and paid off but at least they realize u need strong and free individuals to form the basis of community. Which we just don't have. Not this generation, this generation weighted down with their rugrats nostalgia and purple fucking hair.

    • @BrianMarshak
      @BrianMarshak 2 года назад +1

      💯 this ^

    • @janetwhite7786
      @janetwhite7786 2 года назад

      Exactly. Thank you, Juan McCoy. This idea of human perfectability is just so much sophist masturbation.

  • @karlokulpa
    @karlokulpa 5 лет назад +8

    Marcuse a Man of inconsistent ideas conducting young people to the Abism...

    • @karlokulpa
      @karlokulpa 5 лет назад

      Ken Able maybe you are just a stupid Marcuse follower, or Dunnin- Krugger is just your ass..

    • @whateva1983
      @whateva1983 5 лет назад +2

      fascist idiot detected.

  • @lourak613
    @lourak613 4 года назад +2

    I can't help it - but, when one opens a discussion on the nature of philosophy, with: For me.......I turn it off. I have never been able to accept any subjective interpretation of the purpose and/or nature of philosophy. This is particularly repulsive to me, especially, when said "interpreter" holds a "philosophical" position that espouses any doctrine of radicalism or is tainted by revolutionary tendencies.