Make "IN THE BOX" mixes sound AS GOOD as ANALOG ones!
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2023
- Daniel on the Questions:
- How to make an ITB Mix as good as an analog one?
- How to mix Drums and Bass without loosing punch and clarity?
- What's your favorite analog Tool on your Mix Bus?
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When I check my mixes from mid 90s made on a Mackie 32-8 with 4 ADAT XT Pro, 2 lexicons LXP 15 and an Alesis Quadraverb and also an Alesis Compressor to parallel drums I SWEAR….. they Sound Unbelievable Open and Fresh, full of Harmonics and transparency
Rob Griffin, a friend and excellent Jazz Engineer, once said: For him with analog tools, it's no "frame" around the signal. With Digital Tools, there is always a frame. I know what he means.
@@danieldettwiler.official well said and explained
You r so right on ,I feel like I’ve reached the top of mountain,never ever felt like my eyes r open ever Calabogieweatherman,Ontario
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Love the sound of the lavalier! Was there any analog processing done to it? It sounds so organic, especially in the 40Hz range
Yeah, and then the Ultrasonic's up to 50 Khz:-)
How did you get JJ Abrams to do the video production?
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That's why I like Native Instruments Maschine drum kits, they are already processed to sound in the best possible way. You just compose a beat and it sounds professional and polished without any additional mixing. You can also see the processing chain of each sound - eq, comp, reverb, delay etc. Very helpful to learn and to understand the decision making behind great results.
One more question... speaking of phase particulary in mixing drums .
Usualy wave form of the acoustic drum sound looks like this: the first half of the wave circle has not so big amplitude and the next half of the wave circle is the most prominent peak. Which part of the waveform you consider the main choosing polarity?
For me, letting the first peak go back and the second (loudest) forward sounds more natural and spatially deeper.
Not sure if I understand the questions. If a Snare or Tom is hit, then the Skin goes inside, meaning it sucks the membrane of the mic out first. So the wavefront goes down first. I usually take the start of that waveform to get the phase right. But you could also take the start of when it goes up, as long as you do it so for all tracks. As this one is often louder, it might be more precise. But some samples more or less does not matter so much.
@@danieldettwiler.official my question is about lets say global polarity of recorded drums. There's advices to choose a polarity so that the waveform goes up and the speakers move forward, saying that it will sound pounchier. But as you said, it's natural, that the waveform of acoustic drum goes down first. So as I understand from your answer, you choose polarity so the loudest peak moves speaker forward, that means that speaker moves slightly back first and then forward on that loudest peak, am I right? Sorry if I wrote it not clearly enough.
@@LYSHEmusic Yes, but more important, that's the way it is naturally. I would not change polarity, I would leave it, as it is, and just make proper compensation for the timing delay for the close miks, so that their signal is in phase with the Overheads. In very large room's it's not necessary, as the OH' would be further away, but in average rooms it's almost always better.
There might be Genres, Drums, Players, whatever, where to flip polarity might be better, but on all waveforms I have seen, it goes down first but not with so much intensity, and then the next bump goes up with more intensity. So the Speaker Membran goes in a little bit first and then drives all Energy to the outside - makes snese for me.
@DanielDettwiler thanks! Time aligning was another question I wanted to ask you one day:)
Do you align by the loudest peak or by closest position (to minimize time shift) when it matches the oh waveform? That’s the way Michael White suggest to do it (Mixing with Mike).
My approach changes depending on how loud close mics should be in particular song and if I can/need/want to gate it. In jazz recordings I often find it’s better to my taste not to align drum mics - that way it keeps relative timing between all the mics (acting kinda like room mics to each other). But it’s always a compromise, so I’m always interested in approaches of mixers whose work I like. Thank you for this opportunity by the way 🙌
@@LYSHEmusic I try to make a video once with this topic.
Thanks, Daniel! When mixing kick and bass, do you filter the sub frequensies from one or the other as a rule?
Never ever. Only if I hear a problem...
@@danieldettwiler.official thank you, that's what I needed to hear :)
@@LYSHEmusic It's a mistake that many do: They always low cut on all the tracks. But there is so much information between 30 and 60 Hz. Even on Instruments that play in a high register...
@@danieldettwiler.official That's for sure! As a pianist and mixer I feel myself bad nearly on every soundcheck, hearing that hpf on my keyboard...
What I hear is that filters can change the sound and often not for the better. I mean, filters don't just remove some lows or highs, its doing more to the sound.
@@LYSHEmusic Absolutely. It is not possible to filter away the lows, without altering everything above.
I suspect that high quality analog gear is still superior but yes software can do more things and the emulations are getting better and better, now even with AI technology. And even top engineers mix in the box and maybe only the mastering engineers need to use analog equipment for the high end productions.
It's important, that whether an ITB Mix will be great or not also depends on the quality of the recording. There is a great Video demonstrating a mix by Engineer Mick Guzauski (ruclips.net/video/cFx4gBSwM3g/видео.html), mixing a Song by Jamiroquai. He mixes in the Box. I felt that the Bass he got was great (listen the song at the beginning). I was wondering what he was doing. He showed the bass track and what he did later in the video. But that was not the bass that I have heard. Was it done in the mastering? Not realistic, as it would have changed the mix a lot. Later the explanation: He added a Bass Track in parallel, that he got from the recording studio. That one was heavily compressed and saturated with a great Tube compressor.
Yeah - if you got the analog tools from the recording studio in your track, then an ITB Mix is easy:-)
Not possible
Yes it is! Combination between acustica audio and brainworks channel strip plugins yo can get 95% close,if you know what you are doing
It is possible. I had won a mixing contest and defeated 700+ people with in the box, analog consoles or hybrid configurations.
It is definitely possible and done quite often.