Andy wtf??!!! You were my guy on the 25s and railway replacement service for the DLR.. you must remember T879 gti.. we pulled away and vow church in a cloud of smoke at was at Mile end in no time.. bro hit me me..
Yes, i thought it was one of the best. I will have to upload some footage of the last day. Bow really put on a show unlike some last days where the company put a stop to anything special happening.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus totally agree. Worth staying up until 3am, in addition to travelling across London in the early hours of a Saturday morning, for. I bought a limited edition pen on the day and I have never used it.
@@markcf83 I had to drive and find somewhere to park up. Took a mate of mine with me who also couldn't get home. I have a pen & ruler that was available that day!
The driver of the first bus in the clip must’ve been eager for tea break lol no hanging around to get in the garage, great bit of driving passing the Volvo, I always wanted a shot of driving one of these amazing buses.
Loved the queuing and the sewing machine AEC engine sounds coming from the RMLs and RMs and the low idle GELUNK GELUNK GELUNK sound. A bonus thrashing from a Natter.
Excellent. That huge gothic building you see on Bow Road behind the vehicles as they come down Fairfield Road succumbed to the wrecking ball - and has been replaced by some tasteless 4-storey flats.
Didn't the final Routemaster, RML2760 SMK760F belong at Bow garage? I've been on this bus about 20 years ago. The earliest Routemaster I have been on was RM6 VLT6. I've never seen RM5 VLT5 in the flesh. I would love to have a ride on RM1 SLT56, the Queen and Prince Philip have been chauffered around on this years ago. The withdrawal of Routemasters in large numbers started in 1982, such as shame some of the very earliest, RM11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20 were scrapped if I am correct.
RML 2760 was an Upton Park bus for many years and was allocated there until the 15s went OPO in 2003, then it went to Bow. Before Aldenham Works shut the bus cranks in LT managed to get the correct body, sub-frames and fleet number (which were on 3 different buses) in the works to put the correct bits back as 2760. Such was the vagarities of the LT overhaul system where bodies, sub-frames & fleet numbers were all mixed up so very few Routemasters are as built! Lots of RMs have been scrapped incuding many early numbered ones....have you seen my uploads here of the scrapyards and RM 1 in service? ruclips.net/video/Ft3A13gz6pE/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/hQ4iBOTVeeU/видео.html
I drove out of FY from 1982 to it's closure around 10 years later then Holloway for a year, then Enfield for a while and finally Potters Bar until the early 2000s. My time at Finchley was mainly driving RM/RML and I can state that if we drove at speed into the depot during the evening run in we would have been written up for that! Bow was clearly a pirate outfit! lol
Yes, when i was at West Ham (the real WH in Greengate Street) and drivers were not that fast on the run ins..... Have you seen this vid with Finchley Garage in it? ruclips.net/video/fCid1RBP7Es/видео.html
Buses blocking the road during the run-in (usually at midnight though, not 2000hrs?) was something Oxford Bus used to have at its Cowley Road garage (closed 2004). The new place was designed with the fuelling alley at the far end of the site to avoid this, though I don't think it was entirely successful.
In London there are two run ins, one starting after the peak finishing around 20.30ish, then another starting around 23.00 until the last bus in at around 01.30. I have more film from this evening and they block the street up several times!
Seeing some of those RMs on that route 8A does make me think thats one good thing about modern TFL bus network - no more suffix routes ive read up on some of them like 5A 5B 5C 15A AND 15B etc etc must have been a right pain having to remember the difference between them of both where and when they ran
They had suffix's back then as there were more than 300 red bus routes and the LT route numbering system hadn't got any spare batches of route numbers unless they went to 4 digit route numbers. Routes 301 to 399 were Country area routes north of Thames while the 400s were south of Thames. The 500 & 600s were Trolleybus routes while 700s were Green Line. The 800s were routes in New Towns while 900s were for specials although i don't recall seeing any myself.
A depressing reminder of how standards within LT had collapsed by this time....the overall appearance of the buses......going through the bus wash without even bothering to close the windows......how tragic that LT had been reduced to that level.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus They were good in my garage - Westbourne Park 84/85 before privatisation and the closure of Chiswick. Our fitters kept the buses spotless and if you put a scratch on them...they knew about it and started asking questions. Bit different to the ex Arriva RML I bought about 15 years ago (had to sell it later because of storage problems). That was battered about and had unrepaired collision damage at the back. Unbelievable.
@@kristinajendesen7111 I have an ex Metroline RML, that was the most battered bus i have ever brought! The back is pushed in where it had been reversed up into the bus behind and then moved forward! What a way to park, when i was a Night Generalhand in the 1980s the Night Forman would have gone mad at such behaviour but that's how it ended up....crazy!
Hi mate, hope you're well, would it be possible to buy any bow garage footage you have unedited, I have a massive connection to this garage when they operated the D1, 108, 8, 25 Hope to hear from you soon
I have no footage other than the RMs, those seen here running in, another evening when a few 6s ran in and the last day of Routemasters on the 8s back in 2004. Sadly, i didn't film any more modern types here....
At this time it was West Ham who operated it. It was a Dalston route until that garage closed and then ended up at Poplar, until that closed when it went to West Ham. Bow at this time operated the 108 with LS's along with about a dozen Titan's for the 10's.
I've got the actual video of this, purchased at a rally. It's a great video from start to finish. Did you film this or did you also purchase the video ?
No, i didn't buy it, i filmed it! Only a small part of the videos i took in the 1980s or 90s ever made it to VHS or later DVD. But now they are going live on RUclips at regular intervals. I should imagine the VHS tapes are a bit iffy by now, all my masters tapes were transfered to DVD before they degraded, and now i have them in MP4 as well.
The only bus that worked FOR London NOT AGAINST IT ! The Douglas Scot Route Master. We must campaign to have them reproduced back into full service. The new giant buses are dreadful. Dangerous FAR TOO large they don't all fit into the ruddy garages ! and bloody ugly. Far too complicated they're so big Oxford Street has to keep all traffic out for to allow room for them. The REAL London Bus the DOUGLAS Scot originals were only 7○5 tons had the same number of seats and allowed for traffic . A two man crew for better security. and never wore out ! They brought in world wide visitors. Looking into that old superior bus gives me the creeps though ... as they were so WELL DESIGNED they seem to predict the future of events to come. Dispite the open platform one never got cold on them . Let's all get a petition to get back THE LONDON BUS ...
Hi there my real Name is Mr Cannadine T. Boxill-Harris I was wondering, why couldn't all of you and your teammates could still be Rebuilding and Repainting a nice fresh shiny Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10A, Scania N230UD, Gardner 6LXB and Gardner 6LX 4 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Enviro 400 MMC Buses and Repaint them to a Grey Green Colour's just like the original Scania Grey Green's which were in the East London bus route's such as 168, 141, 20, 210, 24, 173, 167, 313 and also the bus route 103, if you guys would like to Rebuild about 188 of Those Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10A, Scania N230UD, Gardner 6LXB and Gardner 6LX 4 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Enviro 400 MMC Buses Please? We desperately Need your and your Teammates' help and support in Bringing back those grey-green 4 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Enviro 400 MMC Buses again because we are Bigger fans of the patterns of those interesting colours of these Buses to be brought back again for all of us Grey Green bus Lovers out there in North London and East London bus route lovers so Please can Really Really bringing them back again for all of us Grey Green Bus route lovers out there in North London and East London lovers Pretty Please? and can you and your teammates could you and your teammates also put most of them on the London Bus routes such as the London bus route 123, N41, 86, 221 and that is including the North London Bus route 41 for all of us Grey Green bus lovers out there in North London and East London Pretty Please? Repaint them in the Exact Grey Green Bus Colour and put them on the London Bus Routes which are the 341, N41, 34, 123, N29, 149, 221, N73, 121, 86, 30, 262, 147, 396, 41, 56 and N26 for all of us in North London and East London Grey Green Bus Lovers out there because it would be a Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Interesting Buses to see them Repainted to a Grey Green Colour's and I am a Big Fan of all of those Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10A, Scania N230UD, Gardner 6LXB and Gardner 6LX 4 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Enviro 400 MMC Buses Please? Thank You Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very much for your time, help and support.
Wow, those busses are really whippin' it in there... Those drivers had to have known that turn so well to take it so quick.
Yes, i've never seen them fly in like that at other garages.....
I love seeing my Routemaster in this video do what she was designed for.
I was a driver at Bow on the 25 then I loved the routemaster. Oh I'm still there 35 years later as an official now. Good videos
Andy Georgiou You bad boy
Easier life driving a Routemaster compared to OPO buses, just you alone in the front.....
Andy wtf??!!! You were my guy on the 25s and railway replacement service for the DLR.. you must remember T879 gti.. we pulled away and vow church in a cloud of smoke at was at Mile end in no time.. bro hit me me..
Me up* get in touch
I was there on the last night of RML operation on the 8 in 2004. It was widely acknowledged as the best send off to the Routemaster.
Yes, i thought it was one of the best. I will have to upload some footage of the last day. Bow really put on a show unlike some last days where the company put a stop to anything special happening.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus totally agree. Worth staying up until 3am, in addition to travelling across London in the early hours of a Saturday morning, for. I bought a limited edition pen on the day and I have never used it.
@@markcf83 I had to drive and find somewhere to park up. Took a mate of mine with me who also couldn't get home. I have a pen & ruler that was available that day!
The driver of the first bus in the clip must’ve been eager for tea break lol no hanging around to get in the garage, great bit of driving passing the Volvo, I always wanted a shot of driving one of these amazing buses.
Could well have been a finsihing run, once out of the cab, he was off home! And yes, Routemasters are a lot of fun to drive!
Wonderful!!! Tanking in! ♥️♥️
Yes, they really threw the buses in to the garage here, never seen that anywhere else!
Loved the queuing and the sewing machine AEC engine sounds coming from the RMLs and RMs and the low idle GELUNK GELUNK GELUNK sound.
A bonus thrashing from a Natter.
Yes, there were times when out filming when i would leave the camera running just to capture the sound of an engine ticking over.......happy days!
Never saw a route 8A! Probably because I only went into central through East London on the weekends. Thank you Soi!
The 8A was a peak hour only route from Shoreditch to London Bridge. It ran in service (mostly) to & from Bow Garage along route 8.
Fantastic!
Thank you, i still have lots more from this era....happy viewing!
Keep them coming!! 👍🏼
Excellent. That huge gothic building you see on Bow Road behind the vehicles as they come down Fairfield Road succumbed to the wrecking ball - and has been replaced by some tasteless 4-storey flats.
That's a shame.....the story all over the place though.....
Have they knocked the garage down I didn’t know that so what garage does the route 8 come out from.
@@Tony-leeds No, just another building along the road. Bow garage still stands!
I don't want to be on this planet anymore.
Didn't the final Routemaster, RML2760 SMK760F belong at Bow garage? I've been on this bus about 20 years ago. The earliest Routemaster I have been on was RM6 VLT6. I've never seen RM5 VLT5 in the flesh. I would love to have a ride on RM1 SLT56, the Queen and Prince Philip have been chauffered around on this years ago. The withdrawal of Routemasters in large numbers started in 1982, such as shame some of the very earliest, RM11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20 were scrapped if I am correct.
RML 2760 was an Upton Park bus for many years and was allocated there until the 15s went OPO in 2003, then it went to Bow. Before Aldenham Works shut the bus cranks in LT managed to get the correct body, sub-frames and fleet number (which were on 3 different buses) in the works to put the correct bits back as 2760. Such was the vagarities of the LT overhaul system where bodies, sub-frames & fleet numbers were all mixed up so very few Routemasters are as built! Lots of RMs have been scrapped incuding many early numbered ones....have you seen my uploads here of the scrapyards and RM 1 in service? ruclips.net/video/Ft3A13gz6pE/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/hQ4iBOTVeeU/видео.html
I drove out of FY from 1982 to it's closure around 10 years later then Holloway for a year, then Enfield for a while and finally Potters Bar until the early 2000s. My time at Finchley was mainly driving RM/RML and I can state that if we drove at speed into the depot during the evening run in we would have been written up for that! Bow was clearly a pirate outfit! lol
Yes, when i was at West Ham (the real WH in Greengate Street) and drivers were not that fast on the run ins..... Have you seen this vid with Finchley Garage in it? ruclips.net/video/fCid1RBP7Es/видео.html
i live here and the stairs to go to my house weren't even there. It was so weird to see how my area looked
It's amazing how things change so much in just 35 years.....
4.22. AEC engined routmasters and Leyland 510 engined Leyland National. Both have a distinct and completely unique and unforgotten sound.
Buses blocking the road during the run-in (usually at midnight though, not 2000hrs?) was something Oxford Bus used to have at its Cowley Road garage (closed 2004). The new place was designed with the fuelling alley at the far end of the site to avoid this, though I don't think it was entirely successful.
In London there are two run ins, one starting after the peak finishing around 20.30ish, then another starting around 23.00 until the last bus in at around 01.30. I have more film from this evening and they block the street up several times!
Seeing some of those RMs on that route 8A does make me think thats one good thing about modern TFL bus network - no more suffix routes
ive read up on some of them like 5A 5B 5C 15A AND 15B etc etc
must have been a right pain having to remember the difference between them of both where and when they ran
They had suffix's back then as there were more than 300 red bus routes and the LT route numbering system hadn't got any spare batches of route numbers unless they went to 4 digit route numbers. Routes 301 to 399 were Country area routes north of Thames while the 400s were south of Thames. The 500 & 600s were Trolleybus routes while 700s were Green Line. The 800s were routes in New Towns while 900s were for specials although i don't recall seeing any myself.
And the queues into the garage still happen today. But it’s good that in June the 25’s will be back at home in BW
Same chaos but vehicles approx four times removed from RM days....
ive just noticed some of those rear blinds have "ROUTE" above the number
Something else that seems to have faded out over the years.
It was a short lived thing with the yellow branded tourist routes.
Great video. Thanks as always. Was that a Marina van at 7:04. Good old days
My pleasure. Lots of what are now 'classic' vehicles around then!
A depressing reminder of how standards within LT had collapsed by this time....the overall appearance of the buses......going through the bus wash without even bothering to close the windows......how tragic that LT had been reduced to that level.
Yes, things weren't good in the 1980s....very run down and the bare basic money being spent on LT.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus They were good in my garage - Westbourne Park 84/85 before privatisation and the closure of Chiswick. Our fitters kept the buses spotless and if you put a scratch on them...they knew about it and started asking questions.
Bit different to the ex Arriva RML I bought about 15 years ago (had to sell it later because of storage problems). That was battered about and had unrepaired collision damage at the back. Unbelievable.
@@kristinajendesen7111 I have an ex Metroline RML, that was the most battered bus i have ever brought! The back is pushed in where it had been reversed up into the bus behind and then moved forward! What a way to park, when i was a Night Generalhand in the 1980s the Night Forman would have gone mad at such behaviour but that's how it ended up....crazy!
A lot of my misspent youth at this garage standing out side getting numbers..
One of the better ones for seeing what's going on inside.......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I was invited in side when I was younger.. got to sit in the cab of a route masters.. good memories.
Did the 6 also part run from BW or was it AG ?
It was an Ash Grove route until it closed. Then the bulf of the 6's weent to Willesden but around 6 or so were allocated to Bow.
Hi mate, hope you're well, would it be possible to buy any bow garage footage you have unedited, I have a massive connection to this garage when they operated the D1, 108, 8, 25
Hope to hear from you soon
I have no footage other than the RMs, those seen here running in, another evening when a few 6s ran in and the last day of Routemasters on the 8s back in 2004. Sadly, i didn't film any more modern types here....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus OK bro, thanks for the reply, great material 👍
Some of those drivers weren't hanging about as they turned into the depot building! God help anyone crossing behind the archway! 😅
Didn’t the S2 run out of BW ?
At this time it was West Ham who operated it. It was a Dalston route until that garage closed and then ended up at Poplar, until that closed when it went to West Ham. Bow at this time operated the 108 with LS's along with about a dozen Titan's for the 10's.
Must have been a well hot day...plenty of open windscreens...couldn't imagine that these days...H&S claiming the driver might get a fly in the eye..
Yes, it was JUne and a lovely warm day and evening......
I've got the actual video of this, purchased at a rally. It's a great video from start to finish. Did you film this or did you also purchase the video ?
No, i didn't buy it, i filmed it! Only a small part of the videos i took in the 1980s or 90s ever made it to VHS or later DVD. But now they are going live on RUclips at regular intervals. I should imagine the VHS tapes are a bit iffy by now, all my masters tapes were transfered to DVD before they degraded, and now i have them in MP4 as well.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus So I guess I purchased the video from yourself? Have you a connection with RM40 ?
@@SELondoner75 correct!
Only type trained on RMs a cracking bus to drive
Yes, i've always enjoyed driving them, both long and short versions.....
nice
Thank you....
The only bus that worked FOR London NOT AGAINST IT !
The Douglas Scot Route Master.
We must campaign to have them reproduced back into full service.
The new giant buses are dreadful.
Dangerous FAR TOO large they don't all fit into the ruddy garages !
and bloody ugly. Far too complicated they're so big Oxford Street has to keep all traffic out for to allow room for them.
The REAL London Bus the DOUGLAS Scot originals were only 7○5 tons had the same number of seats and allowed for traffic .
A two man crew for better security.
and never wore out !
They brought in world wide visitors.
Looking into that old superior bus gives me the creeps though ... as they were so WELL DESIGNED they seem to predict the future of events to come.
Dispite the open platform one never got cold on them .
Let's all get a petition to get back THE LONDON BUS ...
Sadly this country and many others now want cumbersome electric buses that can’t do half a mornings mileage let a lone a full shift
Hi there my real Name is Mr Cannadine T. Boxill-Harris I was wondering, why couldn't all of you and your teammates could still be Rebuilding and Repainting a nice fresh shiny Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10A, Scania N230UD, Gardner 6LXB and Gardner 6LX 4 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Enviro 400 MMC Buses and Repaint them to a Grey Green Colour's just like the original Scania Grey Green's which were in the East London bus route's such as 168, 141, 20, 210, 24, 173, 167, 313 and also the bus route 103, if you guys would like to Rebuild about 188 of Those Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10A, Scania N230UD, Gardner 6LXB and Gardner 6LX 4 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Enviro 400 MMC Buses Please? We desperately Need your and your Teammates' help and support in Bringing back those grey-green 4 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Enviro 400 MMC Buses again because we are Bigger fans of the patterns of those interesting colours of these Buses to be brought back again for all of us Grey Green bus Lovers out there in North London and East London bus route lovers so Please can Really Really bringing them back again for all of us Grey Green Bus route lovers out there in North London and East London lovers Pretty Please? and can you and your teammates could you and your teammates also put most of them on the London Bus routes such as the London bus route 123, N41, 86, 221 and that is including the North London Bus route 41 for all of us Grey Green bus lovers out there in North London and East London Pretty Please? Repaint them in the Exact Grey Green Bus Colour and put them on the London Bus Routes which are the 341, N41, 34, 123, N29, 149, 221, N73, 121, 86, 30, 262, 147, 396, 41, 56 and N26 for all of us in North London and East London Grey Green Bus Lovers out there because it would be a Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Interesting Buses to see them Repainted to a Grey Green Colour's and I am a Big Fan of all of those Volvo TD102KF, Volvo D10A, Scania N230UD, Gardner 6LXB and Gardner 6LX 4 Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Transmission Enviro 400 MMC Buses Please? Thank You Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very much for your time, help and support.