Coming from a Christian, I can appreciate that you finally got to see the conflict one often experiences between the goodness of the faith and the horrifying nature of the world around you, even for those who have devoted their lives to it, in a film not necessarily meant to be "Christian" or anti-such. It tells it in a more brutally honest way than many of those kinds of films do. I, having worked in the church since I was a teen, have certainly been there and loved the way it was depicted here.
@Rafael B. I watched it at a Film Fest here in Sao Paulo - Brazil, was pretty lucky to get to see it on a big screen. I don't know if I would say that it "needs" to be watched in a theatre. But if you get the chance, definitely do it, the soundtrack and the cinematography are jaw dropping
This is so untrue about - film making and history. The Western cinema is not aware of the old East films. There is a lot of fabula and documentary films about this subject - Pawlikowski just ribbed off Grymberg story and did not mention this man - a writer.
No. first of all, cinematography has to do with lighting and color in space (which is definitely an important aspect in this film), but framing and character composition inside that framing is the director's job, not the cinematographer's. second, this film has more to it than just that: visual storytelling is simply excelent (barely any dialogue in this, everything gets its point across with actions, sounds and cuts) supported with subtle yet effective editing. this film is a complete and very elegant piece of work, not just cinematograpy eye candy. I think you might be confused with Nicolas Winding Refn.
@@ginofactap You make the assumption I don't know what cinematography is based on the comment that I liked the cinematography and then you proceed to explain why the cinematography is good. Ok
@@OlafLesniak well, I made the assumption that you don't know what it is precisely because you didn't mention anything else that's also excelent about this film. let me quote you: "There's not much to it other from its cinematography." so that led me to believe that you probably think cinematography is all those things that the film is great at, combined. otherwise it wouldn't make sense that you only praised that one aspect and say there's nothing else to it. after that, I actually proceed to explain the other aspects of the film that excel, not cinematography. again, this makes me feel like you don't really know what cinematography really is. because at that point I wasn't even referring to it anymore. I started talking about framing, storytelling through sound and image (which is directing, really), editing, and so on. so, if this isn't what you meant, can you explain to me what did I get wrong about your statement? and if so, why is it that you only think there's not much to the film other than cinematography?
@@ginofactap There's nothing else it excels in. The ending is lazy, sloppy and the entire story is directionless other than that it wants to deal with the topic. Ida's inner-conflict isn't just a conflict, it's an empty exploration of one's flaws, desires, etc. with a significance played pretend because these vagueness means deep. The supporting character comits suicide because of shock value and nothing else, it's entirely a weak film with nothing strong in its grasp other than the cinematography. There's nothing else is excels in but there, it's only a repeat of "art" cinema.
@@OlafLesniak Shock value? Perhaps it is shocking if her preceding spiral downwards is ignored. But even then, its value isn’t in how shocking it is. It’s in the realisation that her own nation is complicit in one of the greatest atrocities in history, and specifically the destruction of her family. Ida masterfully speaks to Poland’s national trauma and how both people of faith and secularity emerge from that. There is so much more than just nice cinematography going on here.
Why someone talks about this boring and overrated film? The plot is so primitive. SPOILERS AHEAD. A girl wants to be a nun. So she finds out that she is an orphan, then she smokes one cigarette, drinks one bottle, makes loves one time. And this is it. She is ready to be a perfect nun.
It's a beautiful film and a welcome addition to the new canon
Coming from a Christian, I can appreciate that you finally got to see the conflict one often experiences between the goodness of the faith and the horrifying nature of the world around you, even for those who have devoted their lives to it, in a film not necessarily meant to be "Christian" or anti-such. It tells it in a more brutally honest way than many of those kinds of films do. I, having worked in the church since I was a teen, have certainly been there and loved the way it was depicted here.
One of the most beautiful and moving films I have seen.
Very well composed.
Ida for me is visually and story wise very inspiring movie. Appreciate the effort and the insight. Thanks.
Great video!!
Great film!
Brilliance.
Can't wait for Cold War!
Cold War is a terrible movie. I've seen it. A major drop off in quality/
It's fantastic
Just watched it, wonderful movie
@Rafael B. I watched it at a Film Fest here in Sao Paulo - Brazil, was pretty lucky to get to see it on a big screen. I don't know if I would say that it "needs" to be watched in a theatre. But if you get the chance, definitely do it, the soundtrack and the cinematography are jaw dropping
Release Cold War on Prime now.
What's the background piano music in the beginning of the video? Anyone knows it?
It's the second movement of Mozart's Symphony No 41, "The Jupiter" K441 (my favourite Mozart symphony)
First Reformed is a modern story told in this style of filmmaking.
Hey Fandor: how come you spliced in footage from another film at 1:34 to 1:44?
Because he showed clps of Pawilkowski's earlier films as he talked about them.
It's not a movie, it's a series of still shots.
What's this about oooh
This movie is so good .. yah little depressed but fuck it won’t hurt ..
I've watched this film five times and HIGHLY recommend it. Just one thing: the footage from 1:34 - 1:44 is from another film.
This is so untrue about - film making and history.
The Western cinema is not aware of the old East films.
There is a lot of fabula and documentary films about this subject - Pawlikowski just ribbed off Grymberg story and did not mention this man - a writer.
Ale się zesrałaś lol
Çok Harika bir film öneriyorum Sanatı sevenlere
Wait so the empty space symbolises god? I’m confused sorry
This movie was okay. There's not much to it other from its cinematography.
No. first of all, cinematography has to do with lighting and color in space (which is definitely an important aspect in this film), but framing and character composition inside that framing is the director's job, not the cinematographer's. second, this film has more to it than just that: visual storytelling is simply excelent (barely any dialogue in this, everything gets its point across with actions, sounds and cuts) supported with subtle yet effective editing. this film is a complete and very elegant piece of work, not just cinematograpy eye candy.
I think you might be confused with Nicolas Winding Refn.
@@ginofactap You make the assumption I don't know what cinematography is based on the comment that I liked the cinematography and then you proceed to explain why the cinematography is good. Ok
@@OlafLesniak well, I made the assumption that you don't know what it is precisely because you didn't mention anything else that's also excelent about this film.
let me quote you: "There's not much to it other from its cinematography."
so that led me to believe that you probably think cinematography is all those things that the film is great at, combined. otherwise it wouldn't make sense that you only praised that one aspect and say there's nothing else to it.
after that, I actually proceed to explain the other aspects of the film that excel, not cinematography. again, this makes me feel like you don't really know what cinematography really is. because at that point I wasn't even referring to it anymore. I started talking about framing, storytelling through sound and image (which is directing, really), editing, and so on.
so, if this isn't what you meant, can you explain to me what did I get wrong about your statement? and if so, why is it that you only think there's not much to the film other than cinematography?
@@ginofactap There's nothing else it excels in. The ending is lazy, sloppy and the entire story is directionless other than that it wants to deal with the topic. Ida's inner-conflict isn't just a conflict, it's an empty exploration of one's flaws, desires, etc. with a significance played pretend because these vagueness means deep. The supporting character comits suicide because of shock value and nothing else, it's entirely a weak film with nothing strong in its grasp other than the cinematography. There's nothing else is excels in but there, it's only a repeat of "art" cinema.
@@OlafLesniak Shock value? Perhaps it is shocking if her preceding spiral downwards is ignored. But even then, its value isn’t in how shocking it is. It’s in the realisation that her own nation is complicit in one of the greatest atrocities in history, and specifically the destruction of her family. Ida masterfully speaks to Poland’s national trauma and how both people of faith and secularity emerge from that. There is so much more than just nice cinematography going on here.
Why someone talks about this boring and overrated film? The plot is so primitive. SPOILERS AHEAD. A girl wants to be a nun. So she finds out that she is an orphan, then she smokes one cigarette, drinks one bottle, makes loves one time. And this is it. She is ready to be a perfect nun.
ZetKey There’s nothing wrong with simplicity
citizen kane is about a journalist who can’t find a sled
Why someone watch someone Who talks about a boring film?
You sound like a typical Pole when talking or thinking about Poland's role in what was done to both it's own people and the Jews.
Simple is as simple does.
I'm hearing its overrated
Make your own mind.