What if the Stroyent being green in Quake 4 is a reference to the film "Soylent Green" in which humans are processed and cannibalized for food? That would also make sense given the name "Stroyent", possibly being a mashup of "Strogg" and "Soylent".
I always wondered who made all this tech, it is impossible that a mindless dron nor a 2 as half meter tall walkin tank with canons as hands constructed all of this nor making maintenence to it. I do belive that there is another like "level of intelligence" or "race", that does all of this, constructing and maintaining all this not so strong tech because behind all of that harsh and bloody knifes, are top notch tech, like the tetranode. Who build this? Where are they? The only answer to this are technitians and this drones with lasers but still. I like Stroggs, they are horryfing yet realistic in nature, the blend between flesh and steel is something that eventualy will happen, a hivemind in the making.
@@jiujitsu5000 strogg are themselfs, they are the one who created them selfs, may now look totaly different from what they where, OG makron with its suit being a OG representation of what Strogg used to be. They evolved to by dependent of tech but also organic material, since they destroyed Stroggos ecosystem, pure organic material on Stroggos arent useful, so then they turned to the stars (interdimentional space too) finding humans, beings of unknown realities and other races like the beast look a like grunt. I like to belive that there is a secret "race" or type of "cyborg" extemly inteligent but fragile that reminds hidden pulling the strings of Stroggos society, logistics, where to wage wars, who to harvest, who to promote or process, what race is useful and what isnt. I do not belive they are in Stroggos nor in its moons, not in the same ring of planets next to Stroggos system nor is fleet based society, I like to belive that they are in the border dimention where everything begun. They are something more.
My theory: A long time ago some advanced species built self-replicating AI machines, those machines would later consume said species and continue to replicate and consume/re-purpose other civilizations in other galaxies, eventually re-purposing flesh creating the stroggs as a "species" of self-replicating borg-monstroties, controlled by said AI, using biological alien flesh and body parts and merging them with the machine parts. Later they would stumble upon Earth, and invade it. Luckily the marines fought them off and Q2/Q4 is where you play as marines doing the counter-attacks on said moons and planets. There is no native species, because the self-replicating AI machinery is using alien/human body parts and components together with mechanical machines to create this "endless conversion of the universe" using whatever biological species bodyparts it may come upon to seize, including humans. Thats my fan theory anyway...
I doubt you could get much with that big of a heart of that enzyme mentioned in the cardiac arrest section. It be like 2-3 drips of a about a rain drop size deep a week or a month I think it may instead be ATP or equilivent enzyme, might not even natural and instead engineered to Strogg processes. Either way, Stroynet is horrific, it must smell horrific. I am amused we made the assumption Strogg biological power works anything like Human or even something like Borg, could be completely unique like the Zerg in Starcraft. Please keep it up, loving this.
*** NERDY COMMENT INCOMING; note that this has NO bearing on my enjoyment of these videos, as I really do like them! *** The notion of enzyme harvesting from damaging muscle tissue is a neat one, but I don't think it really makes sense physiologically. While measurable amounts of enzyme leakage do occur when muscle tissue is sufficiently damaged, these are *tiny* in macro-scale terms. The amount of creatine kinase (CK) that exists *in total* in a typical cardiac myocyte is so many orders of magnitude lower than the mass of the whole cell itself as to be negligible if we're talking about extracting it and dumping it into tanks. While I don't have numbers in front of me, my feeling is that even for a heart (or something analogous to it) of the size depicted in the game, you'd be hard-pressed to extract more than a few droplets of CK *a week*. This is further complicated by the fact that you can't just repeatedly damage a muscle that quickly and expect it to recover. If it's akin to a heart that has its own intrinsic rhythm (as the game shows it to be, as it "beats" without any obvious external signal telling it to do so), it still can only do that while the cells are healthy and intact. Repeatedly overworking and damaging the organ will inevitably lead to increasing amounts of scarring to the tissue and likely electrical abnormalities. We see this in people who have various kinds of progressive heart disease. Eventually, it gets to the point where no amount of shocking the muscle will get it to contract in a sufficiently organized way to pump blood effectively -- and that's when the damage slowly accumulates over months or years. What we see in the game is happening WAY faster than that. Now I know it's vague wibbly wobbly creepy alien future-tech, so we could just hand-wave it and say that they have some special chemical they treat the organ with, or it's not similar enough to human tissue for my above suspicions to matter, but where's the fun in that? The fun analysis (to me) lies in going with what we know about the physiology that's available to us, at least if we're talking about an explanation that itself used human physiology as a jumping-off point in the video. (For reference, I'm somewhat familiar with this as an exercise physiologist who's taken specific interest in muscle physiology, cardiovascular health, and energy metabolism and studied those subjects formally for several years -- just in case anyone cares 😅) I know I'm taking this WAY too seriously, but I figured it might be of interest to someone else who stumbles across this video and is interested in how physiologically feasible some of this might be.
I'm far from being a biologist or any type of scientist, but I do love researching these subjects and trying to find correlations between video games and real-life explanation. As the game itself says: 'Somehow, the Strogg are able to break the Stroyent down into pure enzyme.' 'Somehow,' while it can be considered a bit lazy, enables a lot of storytelling possibilities 😅. If interested, I have a contact email in my channel description. It would be interesting to get the opinion of a professional on the effectiveness and science behind the Strogg's usage of torso units.
@@lechumqc7910 Hey, I wouldn't mind lending my thoughts on some things. I was a gaming nerd long before I was a physiologist, and it could be fun to dive into some of the stuff games say. I might just reach out :)
I just had the weird thought. I've been comparing Strogg to the Borg all this time but they're actually closer to something else. But before I can say iD ripped this off I need to make sure it actually came first! :) They would have almost 100% definitely known about it if it did.
So it continues. Keep it up.
A new Quake lore vid posted on my birthday? What a pleasant surprise.
happy birthdya!
@@vaakoextrav9400 Thank you!!
@@vaakoextrav9400Thank you!
My stroyent refinery is up every morning, processing stuff ready to consume baby!
What if the Stroyent being green in Quake 4 is a reference to the film "Soylent Green" in which humans are processed and cannibalized for food? That would also make sense given the name "Stroyent", possibly being a mashup of "Strogg" and "Soylent".
That could be it, but lore-wise, it would be disappointing ^^ It does have a lot of similarities thought.
“Soylent green is made out of people!”
Who else thinks that this thing that is feed looks bit like a dooms mancubus?
god imagine how the nasty shit would look on a modern engine
this was so awesome! i neeeeed more!!!!!!😀😱 keep it up guys 😁
Alien species like strogg justifies the existence of the imperium
I always wondered who made all this tech, it is impossible that a mindless dron nor a 2 as half meter tall walkin tank with canons as hands constructed all of this nor making maintenence to it. I do belive that there is another like "level of intelligence" or "race", that does all of this, constructing and maintaining all this not so strong tech because behind all of that harsh and bloody knifes, are top notch tech, like the tetranode.
Who build this? Where are they? The only answer to this are technitians and this drones with lasers but still.
I like Stroggs, they are horryfing yet realistic in nature, the blend between flesh and steel is something that eventualy will happen, a hivemind in the making.
@@jiujitsu5000 strogg are themselfs, they are the one who created them selfs, may now look totaly different from what they where, OG makron with its suit being a OG representation of what Strogg used to be. They evolved to by dependent of tech but also organic material, since they destroyed Stroggos ecosystem, pure organic material on Stroggos arent useful, so then they turned to the stars (interdimentional space too) finding humans, beings of unknown realities and other races like the beast look a like grunt.
I like to belive that there is a secret "race" or type of "cyborg" extemly inteligent but fragile that reminds hidden pulling the strings of Stroggos society, logistics, where to wage wars, who to harvest, who to promote or process, what race is useful and what isnt. I do not belive they are in Stroggos nor in its moons, not in the same ring of planets next to Stroggos system nor is fleet based society, I like to belive that they are in the border dimention where everything begun. They are something more.
My theory: A long time ago some advanced species built self-replicating AI machines, those machines would later consume said species and continue to replicate and consume/re-purpose other civilizations in other galaxies, eventually re-purposing flesh creating the stroggs as a "species" of self-replicating borg-monstroties, controlled by said AI, using biological alien flesh and body parts and merging them with the machine parts. Later they would stumble upon Earth, and invade it. Luckily the marines fought them off and Q2/Q4 is where you play as marines doing the counter-attacks on said moons and planets. There is no native species, because the self-replicating AI machinery is using alien/human body parts and components together with mechanical machines to create this "endless conversion of the universe" using whatever biological species bodyparts it may come upon to seize, including humans. Thats my fan theory anyway...
I doubt you could get much with that big of a heart of that enzyme mentioned in the cardiac arrest section. It be like 2-3 drips of a about a rain drop size deep a week or a month I think it may instead be ATP or equilivent enzyme, might not even natural and instead engineered to Strogg processes. Either way, Stroynet is horrific, it must smell horrific.
I am amused we made the assumption Strogg biological power works anything like Human or even something like Borg, could be completely unique like the Zerg in Starcraft.
Please keep it up, loving this.
Imagine the smell
It must be horrible 🤢
Quake 4 is one of my best core gaming memories. Great video! Subscribed 😊
One chunky strog slurry, please
So I see you've been to McDonalds.
That bold narration. Is that your natural voice? Either way, Attenborough should be proud.
It is not but glad you like it 🙂
It's lime flavoured duh
Great video! Thank you. I’m hoping for a video about the torso units!
What the... Were you on Stroggos? 😂😂 This feels like a documentary. lmfao
I believe that Stroyent creature is later converted inton The Tower Guardian.
Now that's a good analysis and you even showed some details I had never seen before.
Its a good day when LeChumQc posts a Quake 4 video.
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NERDY COMMENT INCOMING; note that this has NO bearing on my enjoyment of these videos, as I really do like them!
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The notion of enzyme harvesting from damaging muscle tissue is a neat one, but I don't think it really makes sense physiologically. While measurable amounts of enzyme leakage do occur when muscle tissue is sufficiently damaged, these are *tiny* in macro-scale terms. The amount of creatine kinase (CK) that exists *in total* in a typical cardiac myocyte is so many orders of magnitude lower than the mass of the whole cell itself as to be negligible if we're talking about extracting it and dumping it into tanks. While I don't have numbers in front of me, my feeling is that even for a heart (or something analogous to it) of the size depicted in the game, you'd be hard-pressed to extract more than a few droplets of CK *a week*.
This is further complicated by the fact that you can't just repeatedly damage a muscle that quickly and expect it to recover. If it's akin to a heart that has its own intrinsic rhythm (as the game shows it to be, as it "beats" without any obvious external signal telling it to do so), it still can only do that while the cells are healthy and intact. Repeatedly overworking and damaging the organ will inevitably lead to increasing amounts of scarring to the tissue and likely electrical abnormalities. We see this in people who have various kinds of progressive heart disease. Eventually, it gets to the point where no amount of shocking the muscle will get it to contract in a sufficiently organized way to pump blood effectively -- and that's when the damage slowly accumulates over months or years. What we see in the game is happening WAY faster than that.
Now I know it's vague wibbly wobbly creepy alien future-tech, so we could just hand-wave it and say that they have some special chemical they treat the organ with, or it's not similar enough to human tissue for my above suspicions to matter, but where's the fun in that? The fun analysis (to me) lies in going with what we know about the physiology that's available to us, at least if we're talking about an explanation that itself used human physiology as a jumping-off point in the video.
(For reference, I'm somewhat familiar with this as an exercise physiologist who's taken specific interest in muscle physiology, cardiovascular health, and energy metabolism and studied those subjects formally for several years -- just in case anyone cares 😅)
I know I'm taking this WAY too seriously, but I figured it might be of interest to someone else who stumbles across this video and is interested in how physiologically feasible some of this might be.
I'm far from being a biologist or any type of scientist, but I do love researching these subjects and trying to find correlations between video games and real-life explanation. As the game itself says: 'Somehow, the Strogg are able to break the Stroyent down into pure enzyme.' 'Somehow,' while it can be considered a bit lazy, enables a lot of storytelling possibilities 😅. If interested, I have a contact email in my channel description. It would be interesting to get the opinion of a professional on the effectiveness and science behind the Strogg's usage of torso units.
@@lechumqc7910 Hey, I wouldn't mind lending my thoughts on some things. I was a gaming nerd long before I was a physiologist, and it could be fun to dive into some of the stuff games say. I might just reach out :)
Wasn't Stroyent Green a movie? Oh wait, that was Soylent Green... Which was also people, ironically. LOL
I'm 100% certain that was the reference Raven was making
I just had the weird thought. I've been comparing Strogg to the Borg all this time but they're actually closer to something else.
But before I can say iD ripped this off I need to make sure it actually came first! :)
They would have almost 100% definitely known about it if it did.
Please, do share with us 😊
Quake needs a reboot, a sequal to 4 or a reboot to 4 game was just a ton of fun for me in HS after beating DOOM 3 and Escape from butcher bay
Awesome vid!
nice
Are you using the HD Texture pack?
The mod I used is called Sikkmod. It come with False Dawn or can be use alone :)
@@lechumqc7910 i cant mod this game if my life depended on it for some reason its the only game that i have problem modding out of 250+ games.
and we have soylent 😋
Que perversão!!!!! Odeio esses Stroggs!
pls make video about torso units
I also scratch my head at those.