@@ZekZekaru The game design philosophy used to be a lot less mobile gamey; battle pass, login rewards, etc. Old systems are abandoned instead of iterated. There is this amazing story team and they are given 2 hours of gameplay and stuck telling the rest of their story with ingame mail and forum posts. Just not the kind of game that I can get lost in anymore.
I think class stories should make a return, they were the core of the game and gave a unique perspective on the galaxy for each one. This would allow us to have continuation of class romances or just seeing our companions interact with us more often, as well as their approval and disapproval on decisions.
i would definitely enjoy this. i'd probably only end up playing 3-5 classes not all, but still it'd be an opportunity for players to expand on their favourite class stories
@@Zemtex47 , the dude means that expansions' storylines are mostly the same for each class. As compared to original class storylines where each story is unique to the class you're playing.
I would quite like to have a neutral faction story line, and to be able to switch the allegiance of different characters between allegiances. I would like the story of my imperial agent beyond Corellia, but she can't follow the imperials after what they did to her, but she isn't keen on the republic either (I was put off from doing Ilum based on the opening dialogue being so pro-imperial). I think that bounty hunters and smugglers might also be enjoyed on a mission that wasn't wed to the republic or empire. This would allow for more nuanced roleplaying. The selection of story could happen through dialogue in the first couple of quests, that then branch into the three factions.
Are you a NEW player instead of a RETURNING player? Check out the other video instead! ruclips.net/video/6H6QeNFbyNw/видео.html Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:34 Cost of the Game & Expansions 02:12 2022 The Bad 03:18 2022 The Good 04:18 Combat Styles 04:52 Class/Origin Story 06:06 Second Combat Style 06:44 Loadouts 07:11 Combat Tree 08:28 Gear 09:13 Levelling Experience 09:39 Main Story vs Side Quests 10:36 Game Difficulty 11:16 Level Sync 11:56 Challenging Content 12:36 Operation Difficulty 13:09 Population 13:45 Dead Game? 14:52 Updates Since Launch 15:09 Expansions 16:25 Conquest 16:45 Guild Upgrades 17:08 Login Reward System 17:38 Galactic Seasons 18:28 Galactic Seasons 3 19:47 Group Content Updates 20:27 Flashpoints 21:27 Operations 22:12 PvP Warzones 22:50 Ranked PvP 23:06 Galactic Starfighter 23:48 Events 24:36 Planets 25:03 Crafting 25:35 Strongholds 26:23 Cosmetic Armor 27:12 Inflation 28:18 What to Look Forward to 28:43 Opinions 31:39 End
I liked how the gear system was before. You could play the game at your own pace and get high level gear and exchange gear currency to buy sets at the vendor. Now the top gear is back, locked behind harder content. I'am not a no lifer, so I don't have time to be scheduling raids like if it's another job. I wish they'd revert it back to how it was prior to the last expansion, I liked the command crates.
Totally agree here, the previous gear mechanic was straightforward and easy to do, it required grinding like all aspects of this game, but it was nowhere near as complicated and difficult as it is now, pretty much the sole reason I don't play anymore
you can get to 331 which is pretty good with doing story mode ops which is basically a fancy title for flashpoints takes about 30 min to do, people always announcing on fleet chat. That and regular vet flashpoints
The amount of new shit you've got to learn because old shit was reorganized (for no reason) ontop of further currency and currency caps makes going back into it untenable. Think I'll stick with STO.
I have never stopped subbing but have a really hard time getting stuck into the game since they made those big changes during KotFE. I really like the old school path through the flashpoints, I wish they had a guided mode that let you go through the old game up through Shadow of Revan as like a continuous campaign. Appreciate the breakdown, I'll have to check it out again when that new Season happens. I do hope they find a way to revamp crafting, I like it a lot but the Cartel Coins invalidated lots of the armor and weapon crafting.
As a person who started playing in mid 2022, the answer is a yes for me. Couple things I like to note: it is a great single player experience doing the stories. The constant paywalls for almost every gd thing is frustrating as hell, vibrant RP community, no PVP community I can speak of just yet on my server, beautiful for it's age. 6.5/10. Solidly above average but far from perfect.
The ability tree was the thing that did it for me and i quit for good, i was so used to having all the abilities at once on the Juggernaut, that + the bugged launch
I only play this game because Star Wars and that if offers the most unique class stories I've ever played in MMOs. Been playing this game since 2013 with some smaller-bigger pauses. What I extremely don't like is the current insane inflation and that the game is like... quite easy. I would love to see more frequent balance changes, I liked the old system with gearable companions and that they had a specific role for their stories (like Doc to heal). This game has so much potential, there are so many things to add and I feel really sorry that the current players didn't experience the true difficulty of this game back some years ago. Doing a planet class story nowadays is 20-30 mins tops with easy checkpoint accesses and companion power. I remember when fighting Thanaton was very difficult, it felt like yeah, I'm fighting an actual Darth, not like today where they look like sprouts... I so want this game to thrive again!
I'm still as hooked as I was when I first started in December 2011, maybe even more now that my characters can use any advanced class they want and somes Veteran Flashpoint missions can even be done solo. If only EA could give all the support the SWTOR team deserve to release more stuff... I hope the next major update will finally modify a few more Veteran only Flashpoints and add a Story mode.
I really loved this game. I played every bit of the story and side stories until I got to Hoth on first play through ever. Was already max rank by that time. The person I played with stopped. So I did as well. Thoroughly enjoyed it while it lasted. There was so much content left that I never got to experience.
I’m one of those new returning players, who last played a year after launch. I created three new characters that are at various points in their levels and stories. My take on it. Leveling is a dream. Gearing is simple easy and understandable… until you hit 80. At which point you are left adrift with no idea where to go and what to do. Mod upgrades stop at 70. By 79 life is getting rough as the heroic boxes stop giving blue gear at 61, and you have to sit on the new ones until you hit KotFE. And you will easily hit 70 before that point. And then you hit 80… suddenly all my gear is obsolete by 50+ points. My upgrade options require conquest points to go buy a green starter set from the fleet. But I don’t have any Conquest thingies. It’s Wednesday, it’s my first 80, and my weekly Conquest completed last night. And doesn’t give the thingies until you’re 80. And with auto scaling pretty much everything will ass blast you in the gear you have. So you get to roll up another character to play for a few days. Story is fantastic. On every class… until you hit KotFE/KotET. Which is just horrible for what it does to you as you spend night after nigh wading through a never ending tide of spawning sky troopers. Everything you’ve worked and played for taken away, Ie companions. You’re locked into a single player never ending story arc which will auto advance to the next chapter without giving you a chance to hit the vendors or anything. You walk into a room at your base to go turn something in and you’re zoned to another planet for yet another endless slog of sky troopers. The gameplay is no longer SWTOR. It’s God of War. The MMO is stripped out. It’s Tuesday, so finally I can get my gear and go back to that character and hopefully get past these two horrid sections and back to fun gameplay. And I know these are years old expansions. The problem is they still sit in the middle of a new or returning players progression arc, and will continue to be a jarring experience if not a point of new players walking away for years afterwards. Some of the new systems are great. The new Combat Styles approach is fantastic. It allows for some real flexibility in play styles. If just because you can get stealth on any character, which makes life so much easier for solo players. (Except for KotFE, which ignores stealth completely).
I quit around the time KotFe was being released as episodic content. Couldn't agree with you more. For a single playthrough, it was meh, but doable. But getting all my alts through it seemed like such a grind..
You are so skilled at narrating. I've been watching a bunch of these videos lately and I don't even play SWTOR haha. Keep it up! I'll be trying this game sometime after that 64 bit client drops.
I'm coming back... wish I didnt stop playing but at the same time the break was nice and gave the dev team time to polish up a few things. I have to say out of all the different MMOs I have played SWTOR is my favorite because of how it feels being in the star wars universe. I really hope they can figure stuff out and turn things around as far as the negativity they've been receiving lately.
I had played Swtor a tiny bit in the past but I just only now started playing for real and I must say I totally agree... I wish all MMOs were like this... focusing on story lines and immersion instead of just endless grinding for bullshit gear... Another MMO that is like this and should get more love is Lotro (Lord of the Rings Online)... another old MMO but with deep LotR lore and very dedicated to preserving the Tolkien stories... yeah the graphics are old (getting a second overhaul this year though) but the a stories, the design of all the places in Middle Earth, the immersion and THE MUSIC (godly levels of music quality) are off the charts good... just a much more grindy game than Swtor since progressing through the regions means doing a shitload of quests in each one... but if you stop and read the texts and stories it becomes very immersive and good... if Lotro was voice acted like Swtor then it would be just unmatched... Right now I'm hooked on Swtor though... it's just too good in terms of immersion and story telling... every story is more polished than those 250mil per movie trash we've recently seen (both the prequels and the Disney trash.... lol)
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I kinda wish they'd let Operations drop Cartel Market items, like for example Revan's armor or lightsaber in Temple of Sacrifice, the Zakuul Knight set in Gods of the Machine, or Mando sets and blasters in Dxuun. Maybe even CM mounts through certain achievements. Like I know the Oricon and R-4 raids drop the wing mounts, but it'd be nice to have a bit more incentives to Ops other than gearing up and the occasional Stronghold decos. One thing I love about WoW (which I shifted to after GS 2) is transmog hunting in raids. It felt like to me that while you get earn your mog sets and mounts in WoW through raids and achievements, in SWTOR you kinda have to get them through currency or the GTN. I know it might upset some folks who spent lots of actual cash on the CM, but it could definitely up the raiding scene.
i still love and enjoy playing the game just haven't had time to play the game in Months dealing with Stuff and taking a break from it also. but will get back to playing it again at some point.
i played about 6 or 7 yrs ago.. i remember your website :) thanks for all the info!! It is a great game, very fair priced for many hours of play, the subscription is the usual amount which is a bit concerning but when you enjoy a game & dont sub to many then its a choice to make. The new (now old) companion changes and the following expansions were a bit of a let down IF you had multiple chars.. but the game still hangs around in the back of my mind like no other. I enjoyed both solo & group content & miss them both like no other game. Despite the flaws legendary players may point at over the years, the game deserved more attention than it got & is up there in my top list of overall good games. Nice to see it is still looked after.
I love to do the side quest as they often take me to areas I wouldn't normally go in the main story and they help to flush out the current planet that I'm on and the games lore and finally they make the world feel more alive to me.
What this game has going for it is the storyline, I dont know what has changed as I been away from this game for around a year or so. But the storyline of this game was really well done for this alone I reccomend anyone to play this. Especially if you're a Star Wars fan.
I am thankful of your honesty, i left the game because of the last expansion having bad and short content, beeing a mostly story and solo player it kinda destroyed my enjoyement for the game. I dont enjoy this game combat but i sinked in 3k hours in it because of everything else. Ill wait for another content drop and ill be looking forward for you to let me know about it !
Thanks Swtorista for the awesome breakdown! Just a question though as I'm currently playing as a Sith; is crafting (Synthweaving & Artificing) really worth the time & effort to put in considering that I might get better gear or weapons than the ones I could possibly craft?
I never migrated to steam, I kept the old launcher. Most of my guildy's that have been playing the game for a bit never migrated to steam. So always add 2-5k to steam charts for people that havn't migrated over.
Honestly the one thing I hate the most it's level sync. It just seems like an excuse just to make the game longer. What should have happened is the bosses should receive a level boost, not punishing the player for leveling up their character.
im not sure im getting of what you've said. if char is over levelled in a zone, it just does less damage. all skills he has he can use. on the other hand, over levelled char, thanks to downgrade, can come back to ie: korriban and do heroics to get xp. to all new players asking if they should do side quests, i say "if you like a planet are're on, stay there and do all quests. you'll accumulate lot of xp and than if you come across planet you dont like you can skip it and you wont lack xp on a next one". i see it as a win win situation.
@@nickinit9082 my problem with it many comes down to all the normal enemies become bullet sponges regardless of your the level of the planet's level or max level.
@@NefariousSpecter fair enough, but level boost up a boss to char's level in low level zone, would change boss into bullet sponge anyway. also high level player woudnt be able to group up with leveling player on a planet, coz boosted boss could potentially 1 shot him. i just cant see downside to this system. whenever i visit korriban to do heroics, i ask new players if they want to join me to run it. this scaling system gives me a "lets all play together" vibe.
I don’t like level sync either, I use to mow thru dailies on multiple characters. Now it’s a grind to even consider doing it on one. When I do log on I find myself lazying around on fleet/guild ship waiting for ques, rather then doing dailies.
Can’t wait to get back into it after so many years! Few of my friends and I are about to start. Being a previous meta chaser, you also mentioned there are a few classes that are slightly above the others. May I ask what they are? I totally understand the “play what you think is most enjoyable.” But still :) great video and thank you in advance!
All Tanks are balanced, the skill curve with current Assassin Tank is a little bit higher since the stat distribution with current gear doesn't provide enought stats for Assassin tanks to be at the optimal stat level compared to the other 2 so you need to be more aware of spike damage in higher tier of content and how to properly mitigate it. DPS, Powetech, Sniper, Sorcerer, Marauder and Juggernaut Healers will perform the same just that Operative will outpeform the other 2 when the group is stacked for AoE heals but outside of that they all perform at the same level.
Swtor is one of my favorite games of all time. I liked the story but the main reason I loved the game was the community when I played. I gained so many friends and it was so fun to log on and play with them every day. Eventually I got into raiding and I tried getting into the hard content. Eventually I learned the best raiders can be extremely toxic and just cast you away if you are not godly. I left the game when most of my friends stop playing. A year later I played the game again and joined a raid team almost immediately. That team lasted for an entire year that was the best raid team I had but eventually the team collapsed and I left the game again. Then recently I started playing the game again in 7.0. One of my friends rejoined the game and that was the main reason but eventually I learned about the new gearing system. I absolutely hated it. This gearing system is not as bad as the beginning of 5.0 but the grind is just terrible and I hated that you were forced to only play one form of content to level up. In the end I just quit. At this point I don’t like the state of the game. None of my friends play it. Lots of them refuse to play it and content team is just abysmal. I honestly not sure if I ever will play the game again. What I want most is new Star Wars MMORPG but am afraid there are no plans from Disney as of yet. I just miss most the excitement for game and the community to play with.
i really enjoyed this video. haven't played since maybe a year after launch. i decided to subscribe for one month to give it a go. have a few more story lines to finish :)
What lightsaber and outfit are being used at 27:49? Thank you for this detailed video! I haven't played since Shadow of Revan and I'm loving the game play so far. Keep up the great work that you are doing here.
I played at launch and up through the Hutt Cartel. I was quite an effective jedi sage healer in my day. I don't like the idea of not having all abilities available, because I used them all regularly. Also, I always wanted them to make the player ships customizable, but they just won't do it.
Same. At least give us that when we get our ship back in kotfe and choice of WHICH ship. Like maybe they couldn't find yours and you pick a new one. I understand why they didn't do this for the base game tho. Many of the class stories have considerable scenes on the ship and interaction with it.
Hey all, I have a question about legendary Items. I checked the list and all I saw were ear implants which is fine, but you can only wear two of them and the options / bonuses were under whelming. Is there any other legendary gear set about to come out or just literal implants? I thought the hole reason removing item set bonuses so you can get full bonus without having to have 2/4/6 pieces, and you can start mix and matching them. The list of set bonuses I read were kinda useless, like 10 % damage on various ability use, or 20% critical damage after various ability use, 3% damage reduction etc. It kinda put me off playing.
Hello! A lot of them are not very exciting. It depends a lot on your class, but for quite a few, simply taking the % boost is best. The more interesting stuff where people actually do mix and match is on the tacticals as far as I can tell.
After the many years I play the game, I still do. I really love the game and it is one of the only MMORPGs that keep this loving fire alive in me. The changes with battle styles wasn't a big of a deal for me, just getting used to it, but by now it is fine xD I also honestly loved the story of the Legacy of the sith. Yes, it was short, but many story updates will happen and it will be free for those who unlocked Legacy Of The Sith. So technically there is way more story, but just not out yet.
I swear the "is SWTOR worth playing" videos come out at LEAST once a month. Not all from Swtorista of course but I swear I see a new one every few weeks
I make em once a year cus I see that as one of the most commonly asked questions on reddit/twitter, but I imagine they're good for views for other channels!
That’s for every MMO out there tbh, MMO’s are all about having a healthy player base and what content is being offered. People are constantly looking to join in or join back into them, specially with expansion announcements/releases. I know this because even though my main game is WoW, I’m occasionally looking to try other MMO’s and being doing so; trying SWTOR, FF14 and GW2 while waiting on the next WoW xpac.
I came back to the game recently and played it for about two months. Enough time to play through the stories and expansions twice fully, on both Republic and Imp characters. I think I also played through the class story quests on several classes as well, I know I did merc, imp agent and jedi consular all to 50. By the time I finished that and checked out the current content the game had, I was done. There's just not enough at end-game to retain me anymore compared to mmos like FF XIV or WoW and frankly, SWTOR's age is showing much more in it's actual gameplay loop compared to the competition and this is especially apparent in the combat feeling clunky, dated, same'y. I remember being excited because one of the recent patches for Legacy of the Sith was coming out while I was playing, and it was sort of billed as a major patch including more main-story content for the expansion. It was like 2 missions or something, which I finished in 10 minutes, and some dailies, or something like that I can't remember specifically. Pretty bare bones, remember feeling pretty disappointed. Turned off my auto-sub, uninstalled and got back into FF XIV the next week. For the record, I've been a MASSIVE Star Wars nerd my entire life. Just as an example, I have multiple custom lightsabers that ran me nearly $1000 a piece lol. If there's anything that could make me overlook flaws in a game, it'd be because it's Star Wars... so that's definitely not the issue. These "Is SWTOR worth playing in 202x" videos come out so often. It's glaringly obvious that this game doesn't have nearly the budget it once had, or the development team behind it that it had before, like for KOTFE. The KOTFE expansion feels like it was made by an entirely different team, with a massive budget compared to everything else. I remember experiencing KOTFE for the first time and having high hopes because it definitely felt like the stage got bigger, it felt polished, the story was long as hell comparatively speaking, it just felt like it had a lot of budget behind it. Everything since then has felt like the bare minimum, and at this point I don't think bioware is ever going to go back to producing content on the same level as KOTFE. I don't think they have the resources or the man power to do it.
For everyone one seeing this video Is worth return ? well imagine the biggest content creator trying to get views with this "worth or not" viedeos cuz the game dont give her any content to make videos about the total lack of content this is swtor
I like the game and like how the gear is now not bound by price and crafting but they still need to make changes to the gear system like how to obtain higherlvl gear as in to get from 320 to 322 essentially you can only get a few pieces a week
If anyone has this question, the answer is YES. Give it a shot. Me and my friends played the shit out of this recently. Had a great time. Yes it is not a perfect game, but if you're looking for that Old School MMO feeling, this game has it.
The class stories are so good... Loved Sith Inquisitor and Warrior with their sarcastic and sadistic dialogue and voices (playing females). The other class stories were also very solid (especially Agent), enjoyed most expansions... I'd love to be able to get more story, continue the class stories, or just wipe my brain and experience them again. Would have made a great single player game (with some changes ofc). I never really cared about the MMO part (not saying that I am glad it's being neglected). I just wanted more story (that isn't Disney shite). Overall: if you are a Star Wars fan, just the class stories are well worth it!
YES . I just rolled 8 new characters and going through their respective Storylines doesn't get old . If you're on Darth Malgus hit me up , I'd love a gaming buddy :)
I used to play swtor frequently but then I stopped playing for a while. Its 2023 now and today I played it again for a little around an hour, its pretty fun since I haven’t played it in a while but the game would be much better if it wasnt owned by EA.
Actually nowadays there is no excuse for an MMO not being voice acted... and yes, ESO having the best voice acting cast in the world and no voice for your character is a RETARDED choice by zenimax... Swtor and GW2 where your character is voice acted are so immersive. And Swtor even more since your character has a compelling story and is not the almighty demi-god hero that everyone else is completely incompetent if not for you. Imo, the two most immersive MMOs I've ever played are Swtor (which is recently started playing regularly btw) and Lotro (Lord of the Rings Online). However Lotro needs a lot of reading of quest texts, but the environment, music and detail of artstyle of middle earth are off the charts immersive. I've been really loving my short time with Swtor... stories are just so much fun and so well written... even the trooper story which everyone hates is 10 times better than most MMO storylines...
Swtor is still the best tactical coop for melee. *BUT no need to simplify flashpoints it is main highlight of this game* I'm talking about veteran - always available in the queue, dynamic and beautiful. *a lot of good mmorpg games have already died due to constant pve simplifications* it's my opinion... ......you can not do everything for degrading people. players need to be developed. this is SW after all. may the force be with you =) p.s: I really hope that optimizing the load on game servers is not the main task of the creator now
As opposed to the top comment on this video, I am a returning player that played originally when the game first launched. It has come a long, long way since launch and is probably the best MMO on the market today. I love everything about it, and if you are a star wars fan; the game becomes that much better.
So, in short, level scaling is still in the game, and it's even worse than before. Thank you, that's all I needed to know so that I wouldn't touch this game even if it paid me.
i just started playing and tbh im just enjoying the story line, only play a few hours a week so it'll take me some time to get through all 8 but thats fine, im enjoying it anyway
I wish they've give you the option of changing the difficulty / game design to be like it used to be where it felt like a challenge and was in general more rewarding. The game is just too easy now as I returned after having not touched it in 8 years and was sad to see how dumbed down and unchallenging it's become. I hope one day they'll give you the option like Class Runescape does where you can play the classic version of SWTOR that had a lot more difficulty and challenge to it. Won't be touching it ever again if this never happens.
I think there is an overwhelming number of things locked behind the sub. Like hiding your headpiece for example. I think they should focus on the galactic season stuff for subs and make 4 of those a year like a battle pass cause that is practically what it is.
I feel like they are moving more towards that. IDK if they plan to rehaul the original restrictions. They have reduced some restrictions in the past though.
I played years ago..I logged in last year and I might as well just start over , i have no idea anything about the game anymore sadly. One question though, i can't recall if I logged in through steam or old launcher..if I log in through steam will I be able to use my original account ?
I'll save you a half hour. No it is not worth it. I am in a wonderful guild that does progression raiding, regular raiding, conquest event nights, gives out prizes, does contests, and just really fosters a wonderful community environment and I can tell you if I was not a part of this guild I would let my subscription lapse and play this game very sparingly. There just is not enough left anymore for SWTOR on its own to be considered a very good game. I spend an average of 25-45 minutes in a Master Mode FP queue as a healer. 45 fucking minutes. That is insane as a healer which means DPS are waiting even longer. This is just one of the microcosm examples of why this game is not worth coming back to. Gearing has gone back to the old 1.0 drop system but this time its not even modded gear which means you can't customize your statistics. As cookie cutter as this game was before it has now leapt into the volcano of cookie cutter. Save your money Save your time Go play something else.
@@Swtorista well the info is much appreciated! I had to quit playing for a while to finish up med school, and of course as SOON as I unsubscribed a good friend of mine started playing so im probably going to get back into it as soon as I graduate! Lol.
I started this game many years ago, when became F2P. As a F2P player I was disappointed with the fact, that the last few level were locked behind paywall. Now I not even expected that will change, but I think I start a new character, to replay what I can until I reach that paywall again. And maybe it's not expensive, but I only pay in games, if I feel I want to support the developers, and this is not a method which I want to support. Yet I'm interested in the F2P part again.
@@christien6230 You may missed the part of my comment: " I only pay in games, if I feel I want to support the developers, and this is not a method which I want to support." I don't like this business method, so I not gonna support it.
@@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe i mean u do get the entire base game + first 2 expansions for free while one sub unlocks all the rest of the expansions ...permanently. thats quite a good deal considering typically games make u buy each and ever expansion separately.
@@Lemon_Force It's not a singleplayer game, it's an MMO RPG. In MMO there is no terms like "base game or expansions". If you buy an MMO you should get every single expansion after it for free, (see F2P Star Trek online, or GTA Online as example) and if it's F2P you should get every single expansion for free without buy anything. And you not get the rest of the "expansions" only the ones released when your sub live. But as it's an MMO you'll get new "expansions" constantly, which means, you must buy sub each time a new "expansion" come out. Pay to win money grab scam.
I think I might give it a go again. I've not played since Knights of the Eternal Throne, and I wouldn't mind seeing the new storylines and flashpoints. Oh, and I wonder if my Stronghold still exist :P
Interesting question. Good grief! how many do you have? Why not start one new character and see if you like it and then decide if you want to scrap the old ones. Experiment. Make a new one and progress another and see how it goes for you! Good luck!
Î love this game, played it since launch and took occasionally smaller breaks and a pause from it, yet never really canceled it ... but the economy is just.. awkward. Prices are insane. :,)
I love the game, actuially started playing because of your videos two years ago, but i have to take monthly breaks every now and then, cuz I get to sucked in and spend more time than I should.
I am a returning player from Launch Year. I've played threw on my Bounty Hunter threw the level 60 stories and thinking about what to play next. I have a level 50 Jedi Knight, but I am thinking about doing a different class story. Which character class story should I play next?
@@Swtorista That's exactly what I did. I finding myself getting super over leveled for the content I'm in. I cued up for a Veteran Black Talon after I finished Hutta and went from level 10 to level 15 one run! (oops) I'm currently at level 24 leaving Balmora after doing the Class Quests and the Heroics for that planet and going to Nar Shaddah. I'm thinking about skipping the Heroics in Nar Shaddah since I'm overleveled and overgreared for that planet, and then maybe pick start running Heroics again on as I go to new planets and my gear starts to lag behind. I currently have item level 72 gear just from the Dromund Kaas. That said if have even better gear that I can't equip yet! The epics I got from doing Black Tallon are like item level 86. If I had an active subscription going what I'd probably do is que for a Veteran Flashpoints once after each planet and just do the class quests and nothing else. Once a planet might be too often though to be honest, lol.
Swtor Founder here. I have to be brutally honest in saying the game is currently in its worst state ever, and I have little hope for the future because the team working on it is so small. It is still a GREAT Star Wars game, for sure. New players have LOADS of content to go through, and it's one of the BEST Star Wars media immersion vehicles. But for a long term player who has 'done it all', the ONLY thing keeping me in this game is gearing up in R-4. Once I get 340 on tank, healer and DPS, and complete the R-4 achieves, I really can't see myself playing. The insane gearing system regression has gutted most of the PvE content in the game, and relegated maybe the top 5% of the playerbase (who can actually form up for the stupidly tuned new raid) to be able to get past 331 item rating. Seriously, for a game that was obviously low on staff, 6.0 expansion/gearing was perfect. The ONLY benefit in 7.0, IMO, is combat styles. Everything else has been nerfed or is a regression.
The BEST thing the devs can do in a future update is to allow players to earn up to 340 gear from ALL game activities, not just the buggy AF new raid. Unless you are a PvPer that plays just for that, there is literally no point in doing any PvE content for gear. PvP only allows you to get 328 gear. All PvE content rewards 330, so gamers will obviously do the fastest and most lucrative content, which is SM Ops. There is no incentive to do legacy Ops, MM FPs, GSF/PvP (unless you like it) because there is no reward. Daily quests now feel like a chore because of the new currency system. It's just a total mess. It's even causing derision in raid teams and exposing people to the toxic high-end PvE Empire players (you know who you are! "omg who plays Republic?!" kind of people). Troomis summed it up perfectly below tbh
It always happens, I also end up coming back to play this game. I was preparing for the latest DLC before I took a break from playing but now since watching this I think I want to get back to playing since they did the whole class system overhaul.
I have very much enjoyed this game ever since it launched! I have taken multiple long-term breaks from the game, but this has always been my comfortable "go to" channel for anything I need to know when I come back. One issue that I have had is that I rushed through (lots of skipping cutscenes) the story for my single character I have - a Sith Inquisitor/Sorcerer. I planned on returning to the game next week, but one thing I want to do is get a chance to go back and re-do all of those old quests. - Is this even possible?? Is it possible for me to be a max level character that has already played through the first 2 or 3 expansions to go back and re-do all of it? - If it is possible, would it even be worth it? Would I just be better off making a new character? Last time I played, I saw there was some way to replay old expansions, but all of it was overwhelming to me. If someone is able to talk to me like I'm a complete noob, I would appreciate that!
No you can't re-do :( You could create a new character that's it. You can re-play the KOTFE/KOTET expansions chapters but that is it, and it doesn't always save your choices chapter to chapter in replays.
For people who only mainly plays for story content, I would say no wait maby 6 months to a year :D Then come back play whatever scraps we have gotten in that time and quit right after right away. Quit after that insulting "launch" of the Legacy of the Sith.
I always thought if you haven't played a class before 1-50 might be worth returning. 2 of the best reasons why I loved the game different stories and voice acting on my character, both gone at 50 and beyond. It's a bummer.
i play 16 straight years of WoW but this game is my favourite, the only reason every time i leave it is i don't have a single clue in what to do in end game xD
Honestly it's the subscription model that kills it for me, just like WoW... to keep paying constantly for a game is just absurd in my mind, it racks up to a really big amount of money if you keep subscribing for a long time, it just doesn't make sense. I'm a big SW head and I've enjoyed the game as a free player back in 2012/13, but I just can't see myself paying over and over for the same game.
Honestly don't see the big deal in that. It's 15 dollars dude. Even a homeless person can make that in 1 hr. I only really spend $12 for RUclips premium, and recently came back, so yes I have to pay another $15. Honestly, for the insane amount of content it offers, its so worth it. I'm sure you make way more than $15 from your job, I would reconsider.
after ruining classes and gearing and making the story super short i say the 7.0 expantion was a overall failure i know it brough new and nice things but not close to the lv it ruined core part of the game 7.1 brough back modding but still said this whole expnation feel like a huge f you to the main and core player base of swtor the casual/solo player.
They pretty much made a catch up system, 330 is way easier to get than when 7.0 released, sure it's still a bit grindy but not anything near how grindy it was before. If you are a casual player 330 is all you really need, wait for the next catch up system for 340. You'd really only need 340 for the hardest content but you can do everything in 330 gear if you have the right set up/team.
If your casual you can only get 330 blue, which isn't really that much better than 328 Purple. Everything else Is locked behind a paywall of content called Operations, that only a small majority enjoy playing. 6.0 gearing was, and is better in just about every way.
What about the daily areas, like section X, Oricon, Yavin, and etc.? I've noticed those areas are way more challenging then they use to be. Almost not worth it to do the dailies due to being tedious to kill the mobs and bosses in them. In other words no longer fun.
I cannot fathom how they'll pull this game out of the shitter after 7.0. They'd have to do a 180 on more than half the changes they made just to even start improving. I honestly have no hope left for my favorite MMO that I played off and on for most of my adult life.
I came in on launch, went for about 8 months, and would come back about a month a year afterward. Haven't done that in a few years because there's been pretty much nothing new for years. Also, deleting a bunch of individual class abilities so you could have a character that could be 2 classes but not use both at the same time nor switch between them in the same mission... W.T.F......
They'll never find a perfect balance for all players. I mainly play solo for the story. I just started a new character and I'm at level 40 and just on my second planet. Granted, this comes from leaning more toward being a player of BioWare RPGs, where completing quests is the way to level a player. The problem is that even though I feel compelled to do so, I get robbed of the payoff. I've hustled for 3 days to hit level 40, but my stats are scaled down to compensate for lower-level players on a prologue planet. I understand that the game takes the opposite approach to flashpoints, and scales the stats of lower-level players up. That's fine. Wouldn't it make more sense just to let the level of players and their gear be what they are? Granted, it would make it an uphill battle out of the gate, but if such was the case, it would encourage players at low levels to seek out the assistance of higher-level players, while still allowing everyone to enjoy the level and gear they work for. As is, player level and gear seem to mean little until a player completes the story and is just going PVP for the sake of it.
SWTOR, you're breaking my heart. You're going down a path I can't follow.
As a newer player I'd really like to understand what this means. Is it not going in a direction you agree with, or?
Lol yo 😂😢💔
@@ZekZekaru it changed many things 6.0 was a better expantion then the current on so we crying still
@@ZekZekaru The game design philosophy used to be a lot less mobile gamey; battle pass, login rewards, etc. Old systems are abandoned instead of iterated. There is this amazing story team and they are given 2 hours of gameplay and stuck telling the rest of their story with ingame mail and forum posts. Just not the kind of game that I can get lost in anymore.
Every other mmo: "I have the high ground!"
I think class stories should make a return, they were the core of the game and gave a unique perspective on the galaxy for each one. This would allow us to have continuation of class romances or just seeing our companions interact with us more often, as well as their approval and disapproval on decisions.
Class stories should make a return? What do you mean? I have not played the game since launch.
100% agree. Probably more expensive than le sigh EA likes though.
i would definitely enjoy this. i'd probably only end up playing 3-5 classes not all, but still it'd be an opportunity for players to expand on their favourite class stories
@@Zemtex47 , the dude means that expansions' storylines are mostly the same for each class. As compared to original class storylines where each story is unique to the class you're playing.
I would quite like to have a neutral faction story line, and to be able to switch the allegiance of different characters between allegiances. I would like the story of my imperial agent beyond Corellia, but she can't follow the imperials after what they did to her, but she isn't keen on the republic either (I was put off from doing Ilum based on the opening dialogue being so pro-imperial). I think that bounty hunters and smugglers might also be enjoyed on a mission that wasn't wed to the republic or empire. This would allow for more nuanced roleplaying. The selection of story could happen through dialogue in the first couple of quests, that then branch into the three factions.
Are you a NEW player instead of a RETURNING player? Check out the other video instead! ruclips.net/video/6H6QeNFbyNw/видео.html
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:34 Cost of the Game & Expansions
02:12 2022 The Bad
03:18 2022 The Good
04:18 Combat Styles
04:52 Class/Origin Story
06:06 Second Combat Style
06:44 Loadouts
07:11 Combat Tree
08:28 Gear
09:13 Levelling Experience
09:39 Main Story vs Side Quests
10:36 Game Difficulty
11:16 Level Sync
11:56 Challenging Content
12:36 Operation Difficulty
13:09 Population
13:45 Dead Game?
14:52 Updates Since Launch
15:09 Expansions
16:25 Conquest
16:45 Guild Upgrades
17:08 Login Reward System
17:38 Galactic Seasons
18:28 Galactic Seasons 3
19:47 Group Content Updates
20:27 Flashpoints
21:27 Operations
22:12 PvP Warzones
22:50 Ranked PvP
23:06 Galactic Starfighter
23:48 Events
24:36 Planets
25:03 Crafting
25:35 Strongholds
26:23 Cosmetic Armor
27:12 Inflation
28:18 What to Look Forward to
28:43 Opinions
31:39 End
I liked how the gear system was before. You could play the game at your own pace and get high level gear and exchange gear currency to buy sets at the vendor. Now the top gear is back, locked behind harder content. I'am not a no lifer, so I don't have time to be scheduling raids like if it's another job. I wish they'd revert it back to how it was prior to the last expansion, I liked the command crates.
The previous gear is still available. Just use it.
That is the biggest issue most people have, but the less then 1 percenters will get butt mad if they do revert it back.
Totally agree here, the previous gear mechanic was straightforward and easy to do, it required grinding like all aspects of this game, but it was nowhere near as complicated and difficult as it is now, pretty much the sole reason I don't play anymore
you can get to 331 which is pretty good with doing story mode ops which is basically a fancy title for flashpoints takes about 30 min to do, people always announcing on fleet chat. That and regular vet flashpoints
Last expansion you just played hammer station 24/7 until you got max gear and that was about it
Just started playing about a month ago, Sith Warrior story is pretty great. I’m on Chapter 3. I don’t want it to end.
yes first few times it was addicting for me too
The amount of new shit you've got to learn because old shit was reorganized (for no reason) ontop of further currency and currency caps makes going back into it untenable.
Think I'll stick with STO.
STO? What mmo is this?
Star Trek Online
I have never stopped subbing but have a really hard time getting stuck into the game since they made those big changes during KotFE. I really like the old school path through the flashpoints, I wish they had a guided mode that let you go through the old game up through Shadow of Revan as like a continuous campaign.
Appreciate the breakdown, I'll have to check it out again when that new Season happens. I do hope they find a way to revamp crafting, I like it a lot but the Cartel Coins invalidated lots of the armor and weapon crafting.
They kind of do.
As a person who started playing in mid 2022, the answer is a yes for me. Couple things I like to note: it is a great single player experience doing the stories. The constant paywalls for almost every gd thing is frustrating as hell, vibrant RP community, no PVP community I can speak of just yet on my server, beautiful for it's age. 6.5/10. Solidly above average but far from perfect.
The ability tree was the thing that did it for me and i quit for good, i was so used to having all the abilities at once on the Juggernaut, that + the bugged launch
Please do a 2023 update. Every year for Swtor is different and some years have more added content than other do.
I only play this game because Star Wars and that if offers the most unique class stories I've ever played in MMOs. Been playing this game since 2013 with some smaller-bigger pauses. What I extremely don't like is the current insane inflation and that the game is like... quite easy. I would love to see more frequent balance changes, I liked the old system with gearable companions and that they had a specific role for their stories (like Doc to heal). This game has so much potential, there are so many things to add and I feel really sorry that the current players didn't experience the true difficulty of this game back some years ago. Doing a planet class story nowadays is 20-30 mins tops with easy checkpoint accesses and companion power. I remember when fighting Thanaton was very difficult, it felt like yeah, I'm fighting an actual Darth, not like today where they look like sprouts... I so want this game to thrive again!
I'm still as hooked as I was when I first started in December 2011, maybe even more now that my characters can use any advanced class they want and somes Veteran Flashpoint missions can even be done solo.
If only EA could give all the support the SWTOR team deserve to release more stuff... I hope the next major update will finally modify a few more Veteran only Flashpoints and add a Story mode.
I really loved this game. I played every bit of the story and side stories until I got to Hoth on first play through ever. Was already max rank by that time. The person I played with stopped. So I did as well. Thoroughly enjoyed it while it lasted. There was so much content left that I never got to experience.
So relatable!!
I’m one of those new returning players, who last played a year after launch. I created three new characters that are at various points in their levels and stories. My take on it.
Leveling is a dream. Gearing is simple easy and understandable… until you hit 80. At which point you are left adrift with no idea where to go and what to do. Mod upgrades stop at 70. By 79 life is getting rough as the heroic boxes stop giving blue gear at 61, and you have to sit on the new ones until you hit KotFE. And you will easily hit 70 before that point. And then you hit 80… suddenly all my gear is obsolete by 50+ points. My upgrade options require conquest points to go buy a green starter set from the fleet. But I don’t have any Conquest thingies. It’s Wednesday, it’s my first 80, and my weekly Conquest completed last night. And doesn’t give the thingies until you’re 80. And with auto scaling pretty much everything will ass blast you in the gear you have. So you get to roll up another character to play for a few days.
Story is fantastic. On every class… until you hit KotFE/KotET. Which is just horrible for what it does to you as you spend night after nigh wading through a never ending tide of spawning sky troopers. Everything you’ve worked and played for taken away, Ie companions. You’re locked into a single player never ending story arc which will auto advance to the next chapter without giving you a chance to hit the vendors or anything. You walk into a room at your base to go turn something in and you’re zoned to another planet for yet another endless slog of sky troopers. The gameplay is no longer SWTOR. It’s God of War. The MMO is stripped out. It’s Tuesday, so finally I can get my gear and go back to that character and hopefully get past these two horrid sections and back to fun gameplay. And I know these are years old expansions. The problem is they still sit in the middle of a new or returning players progression arc, and will continue to be a jarring experience if not a point of new players walking away for years afterwards.
Some of the new systems are great. The new Combat Styles approach is fantastic. It allows for some real flexibility in play styles. If just because you can get stealth on any character, which makes life so much easier for solo players. (Except for KotFE, which ignores stealth completely).
I quit around the time KotFe was being released as episodic content. Couldn't agree with you more. For a single playthrough, it was meh, but doable. But getting all my alts through it seemed like such a grind..
I still love swtor years after I started
You are so skilled at narrating. I've been watching a bunch of these videos lately and I don't even play SWTOR haha. Keep it up! I'll be trying this game sometime after that 64 bit client drops.
I'm coming back... wish I didnt stop playing but at the same time the break was nice and gave the dev team time to polish up a few things. I have to say out of all the different MMOs I have played SWTOR is my favorite because of how it feels being in the star wars universe. I really hope they can figure stuff out and turn things around as far as the negativity they've been receiving lately.
I had played Swtor a tiny bit in the past but I just only now started playing for real and I must say I totally agree... I wish all MMOs were like this... focusing on story lines and immersion instead of just endless grinding for bullshit gear...
Another MMO that is like this and should get more love is Lotro (Lord of the Rings Online)... another old MMO but with deep LotR lore and very dedicated to preserving the Tolkien stories... yeah the graphics are old (getting a second overhaul this year though) but the a stories, the design of all the places in Middle Earth, the immersion and THE MUSIC (godly levels of music quality) are off the charts good... just a much more grindy game than Swtor since progressing through the regions means doing a shitload of quests in each one... but if you stop and read the texts and stories it becomes very immersive and good... if Lotro was voice acted like Swtor then it would be just unmatched...
Right now I'm hooked on Swtor though... it's just too good in terms of immersion and story telling... every story is more polished than those 250mil per movie trash we've recently seen (both the prequels and the Disney trash.... lol)
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I kinda wish they'd let Operations drop Cartel Market items, like for example Revan's armor or lightsaber in Temple of Sacrifice, the Zakuul Knight set in Gods of the Machine, or Mando sets and blasters in Dxuun. Maybe even CM mounts through certain achievements. Like I know the Oricon and R-4 raids drop the wing mounts, but it'd be nice to have a bit more incentives to Ops other than gearing up and the occasional Stronghold decos.
One thing I love about WoW (which I shifted to after GS 2) is transmog hunting in raids. It felt like to me that while you get earn your mog sets and mounts in WoW through raids and achievements, in SWTOR you kinda have to get them through currency or the GTN. I know it might upset some folks who spent lots of actual cash on the CM, but it could definitely up the raiding scene.
i still love and enjoy playing the game just haven't had time to play the game in Months dealing with Stuff and taking a break from it also. but will get back to playing it again at some point.
I just bought a subscription, having a blast and getting addicted already..! Nice vid
Trying for your first time? Yes.
Returning to if you've played content within 3 years? No.
This! 🍎
i played about 6 or 7 yrs ago.. i remember your website :) thanks for all the info!! It is a great game, very fair priced for many hours of play, the subscription is the usual amount which is a bit concerning but when you enjoy a game & dont sub to many then its a choice to make. The new (now old) companion changes and the following expansions were a bit of a let down IF you had multiple chars.. but the game still hangs around in the back of my mind like no other. I enjoyed both solo & group content & miss them both like no other game. Despite the flaws legendary players may point at over the years, the game deserved more attention than it got & is up there in my top list of overall good games. Nice to see it is still looked after.
cheers and welcome back!
I love to do the side quest as they often take me to areas I wouldn't normally go in the main story and they help to flush out the current planet that I'm on and the games lore and finally they make the world feel more alive to me.
looking to come back for season 4 after 5 year absence.
Great video & recap of what has changed!
What this game has going for it is the storyline, I dont know what has changed as I been away from this game for around a year or so. But the storyline of this game was really well done for this alone I reccomend anyone to play this. Especially if you're a Star Wars fan.
I am thankful of your honesty, i left the game because of the last expansion having bad and short content, beeing a mostly story and solo player it kinda destroyed my enjoyement for the game. I dont enjoy this game combat but i sinked in 3k hours in it because of everything else. Ill wait for another content drop and ill be looking forward for you to let me know about it !
I bought this game back when it was released. always end up coming back once a year to this game. I love this game, by far my favorite mmo
Thanks Swtorista for the awesome breakdown! Just a question though as I'm currently playing as a Sith; is crafting (Synthweaving & Artificing) really worth the time & effort to put in considering that I might get better gear or weapons than the ones I could possibly craft?
The main worth of crafting, especially artifice, is mainly making money by selling stuff you craft on the GTN. Especially crystals and dyes
I never migrated to steam, I kept the old launcher. Most of my guildy's that have been playing the game for a bit never migrated to steam. So always add 2-5k to steam charts for people that havn't migrated over.
Honestly the one thing I hate the most it's level sync. It just seems like an excuse just to make the game longer. What should have happened is the bosses should receive a level boost, not punishing the player for leveling up their character.
im not sure im getting of what you've said. if char is over levelled in a zone, it just does less damage. all skills he has he can use. on the other hand, over levelled char, thanks to downgrade, can come back to ie: korriban and do heroics to get xp. to all new players asking if they should do side quests, i say "if you like a planet are're on, stay there and do all quests. you'll accumulate lot of xp and than if you come across planet you dont like you can skip it and you wont lack xp on a next one". i see it as a win win situation.
Really?
I never, ever, ever even notice it.
It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
@@nickinit9082 my problem with it many comes down to all the normal enemies become bullet sponges regardless of your the level of the planet's level or max level.
@@NefariousSpecter fair enough, but level boost up a boss to char's level in low level zone, would change boss into bullet sponge anyway. also high level player woudnt be able to group up with leveling player on a planet, coz boosted boss could potentially 1 shot him. i just cant see downside to this system. whenever i visit korriban to do heroics, i ask new players if they want to join me to run it. this scaling system gives me a "lets all play together" vibe.
I don’t like level sync either, I use to mow thru dailies on multiple characters. Now it’s a grind to even consider doing it on one. When I do log on I find myself lazying around on fleet/guild ship waiting for ques, rather then doing dailies.
Can’t wait to get back into it after so many years! Few of my friends and I are about to start. Being a previous meta chaser, you also mentioned there are a few classes that are slightly above the others. May I ask what they are? I totally understand the “play what you think is most enjoyable.” But still :) great video and thank you in advance!
i heard the shadow for dps
All Tanks are balanced, the skill curve with current Assassin Tank is a little bit higher since the stat distribution with current gear doesn't provide enought stats for Assassin tanks to be at the optimal stat level compared to the other 2 so you need to be more aware of spike damage in higher tier of content and how to properly mitigate it.
DPS, Powetech, Sniper, Sorcerer, Marauder and Juggernaut
Healers will perform the same just that Operative will outpeform the other 2 when the group is stacked for AoE heals but outside of that they all perform at the same level.
Swtor is one of my favorite games of all time. I liked the story but the main reason I loved the game was the community when I played. I gained so many friends and it was so fun to log on and play with them every day. Eventually I got into raiding and I tried getting into the hard content. Eventually I learned the best raiders can be extremely toxic and just cast you away if you are not godly. I left the game when most of my friends stop playing.
A year later I played the game again and joined a raid team almost immediately. That team lasted for an entire year that was the best raid team I had but eventually the team collapsed and I left the game again.
Then recently I started playing the game again in 7.0. One of my friends rejoined the game and that was the main reason but eventually I learned about the new gearing system. I absolutely hated it. This gearing system is not as bad as the beginning of 5.0 but the grind is just terrible and I hated that you were forced to only play one form of content to level up. In the end I just quit.
At this point I don’t like the state of the game. None of my friends play it. Lots of them refuse to play it and content team is just abysmal. I honestly not sure if I ever will play the game again.
What I want most is new Star Wars MMORPG but am afraid there are no plans from Disney as of yet. I just miss most the excitement for game and the community to play with.
Being able to switch classes on same character and loadouts. I just need to find a group of people to find to play with.
i really enjoyed this video. haven't played since maybe a year after launch. i decided to subscribe for one month to give it a go. have a few more story lines to finish :)
What lightsaber and outfit are being used at 27:49? Thank you for this detailed video! I haven't played since Shadow of Revan and I'm loving the game play so far. Keep up the great work that you are doing here.
I played at launch and up through the Hutt Cartel. I was quite an effective jedi sage healer in my day. I don't like the idea of not having all abilities available, because I used them all regularly. Also, I always wanted them to make the player ships customizable, but they just won't do it.
Same. At least give us that when we get our ship back in kotfe and choice of WHICH ship. Like maybe they couldn't find yours and you pick a new one. I understand why they didn't do this for the base game tho. Many of the class stories have considerable scenes on the ship and interaction with it.
Hey all, I have a question about legendary Items. I checked the list and all I saw were ear implants which is fine, but you can only wear two of them and the options / bonuses were under whelming. Is there any other legendary gear set about to come out or just literal implants? I thought the hole reason removing item set bonuses so you can get full bonus without having to have 2/4/6 pieces, and you can start mix and matching them. The list of set bonuses I read were kinda useless, like 10 % damage on various ability use, or 20% critical damage after various ability use, 3% damage reduction etc. It kinda put me off playing.
Hello! A lot of them are not very exciting. It depends a lot on your class, but for quite a few, simply taking the % boost is best. The more interesting stuff where people actually do mix and match is on the tacticals as far as I can tell.
@@Swtorista thanks for the quick reply. Calmed my mind a bit.
I quit swtor a long time ago... but is anyone else here just for her voice?
this is a perfect video for me, i haven't played since late 2014 and im just getting back into it, still preferred status currently
I recently came back after a break of at least 6-7 years, and I'm having a great time!
wow welcome back after the break!
After the many years I play the game, I still do. I really love the game and it is one of the only MMORPGs that keep this loving fire alive in me. The changes with battle styles wasn't a big of a deal for me, just getting used to it, but by now it is fine xD
I also honestly loved the story of the Legacy of the sith. Yes, it was short, but many story updates will happen and it will be free for those who unlocked Legacy Of The Sith. So technically there is way more story, but just not out yet.
This video was super useful now that I just found out I have zero chance of getting my old preferred account back. Thanks!
I swear the "is SWTOR worth playing" videos come out at LEAST once a month. Not all from Swtorista of course but I swear I see a new one every few weeks
I make em once a year cus I see that as one of the most commonly asked questions on reddit/twitter, but I imagine they're good for views for other channels!
That’s for every MMO out there tbh, MMO’s are all about having a healthy player base and what content is being offered. People are constantly looking to join in or join back into them, specially with expansion announcements/releases. I know this because even though my main game is WoW, I’m occasionally looking to try other MMO’s and being doing so; trying SWTOR, FF14 and GW2 while waiting on the next WoW xpac.
well swtorista need views, and the game dont give her content lmao
@@biggsloser9632 year long celebration am I right?!
@@ZexyKilla yes, lot of content
I came back to the game recently and played it for about two months. Enough time to play through the stories and expansions twice fully, on both Republic and Imp characters. I think I also played through the class story quests on several classes as well, I know I did merc, imp agent and jedi consular all to 50. By the time I finished that and checked out the current content the game had, I was done. There's just not enough at end-game to retain me anymore compared to mmos like FF XIV or WoW and frankly, SWTOR's age is showing much more in it's actual gameplay loop compared to the competition and this is especially apparent in the combat feeling clunky, dated, same'y.
I remember being excited because one of the recent patches for Legacy of the Sith was coming out while I was playing, and it was sort of billed as a major patch including more main-story content for the expansion. It was like 2 missions or something, which I finished in 10 minutes, and some dailies, or something like that I can't remember specifically. Pretty bare bones, remember feeling pretty disappointed. Turned off my auto-sub, uninstalled and got back into FF XIV the next week. For the record, I've been a MASSIVE Star Wars nerd my entire life. Just as an example, I have multiple custom lightsabers that ran me nearly $1000 a piece lol. If there's anything that could make me overlook flaws in a game, it'd be because it's Star Wars... so that's definitely not the issue.
These "Is SWTOR worth playing in 202x" videos come out so often. It's glaringly obvious that this game doesn't have nearly the budget it once had, or the development team behind it that it had before, like for KOTFE. The KOTFE expansion feels like it was made by an entirely different team, with a massive budget compared to everything else. I remember experiencing KOTFE for the first time and having high hopes because it definitely felt like the stage got bigger, it felt polished, the story was long as hell comparatively speaking, it just felt like it had a lot of budget behind it. Everything since then has felt like the bare minimum, and at this point I don't think bioware is ever going to go back to producing content on the same level as KOTFE. I don't think they have the resources or the man power to do it.
For everyone one seeing this video
Is worth return ?
well imagine the biggest content creator trying to get views with this "worth or not" viedeos cuz the game dont give her any content to make videos about
the total lack of content this is swtor
Sadly yeah, I genuinely like the game but the developers have been a joke with legacy of the sith.
I played for a few months when it first came out and just got back on this last weekend. I feel like a complete newbie again.
I like the game and like how the gear is now not bound by price and crafting but they still need to make changes to the gear system like how to obtain higherlvl gear as in to get from 320 to 322 essentially you can only get a few pieces a week
320-330 is jus a matter of upgrading gear with mats and then getting rakata drops in nims. this aint easy gearing like 6.0 anymore
@Achilles Oh won't you *PLEASE* think of the multi-billion dollar faceless corporation?
I wanted to try to get back in again but after the recent dlc I'll just take a small pass
If anyone has this question, the answer is YES. Give it a shot. Me and my friends played the shit out of this recently. Had a great time. Yes it is not a perfect game, but if you're looking for that Old School MMO feeling, this game has it.
might just play. very nice video! thank you!
have fun good luck!
The class stories are so good... Loved Sith Inquisitor and Warrior with their sarcastic and sadistic dialogue and voices (playing females). The other class stories were also very solid (especially Agent), enjoyed most expansions...
I'd love to be able to get more story, continue the class stories, or just wipe my brain and experience them again. Would have made a great single player game (with some changes ofc).
I never really cared about the MMO part (not saying that I am glad it's being neglected). I just wanted more story (that isn't Disney shite).
Overall: if you are a Star Wars fan, just the class stories are well worth it!
SWTORISTA is dedicated to this game, always good info ;)
I got pretty sick of the gearing system changing over and over and over….
I just returned after 7 or 8 years and i'm having fun. All the expansions are new to me, pretty nice so far!
YES .
I just rolled 8 new characters and going through their respective Storylines doesn't get old .
If you're on Darth Malgus hit me up , I'd love a gaming buddy :)
All these are great
My main problem tho: My friends no longer play. Returning by myself is not as appealing. But that is life i guess.
I used to play swtor frequently but then I stopped playing for a while. Its 2023 now and today I played it again for a little around an hour, its pretty fun since I haven’t played it in a while but the game would be much better if it wasnt owned by EA.
Thank you for making this video, it was very helpful!
I just started playing and I've been having a blast!
I just started playing, and I am really enjoying it. I love that the PC is voice acted. I wish ESO would implement that.
welcome to the game!
@@Swtorista Thank you!
Actually nowadays there is no excuse for an MMO not being voice acted... and yes, ESO having the best voice acting cast in the world and no voice for your character is a RETARDED choice by zenimax...
Swtor and GW2 where your character is voice acted are so immersive. And Swtor even more since your character has a compelling story and is not the almighty demi-god hero that everyone else is completely incompetent if not for you.
Imo, the two most immersive MMOs I've ever played are Swtor (which is recently started playing regularly btw) and Lotro (Lord of the Rings Online). However Lotro needs a lot of reading of quest texts, but the environment, music and detail of artstyle of middle earth are off the charts immersive.
I've been really loving my short time with Swtor... stories are just so much fun and so well written... even the trooper story which everyone hates is 10 times better than most MMO storylines...
Swtor is still the best tactical coop for melee. *BUT no need to simplify flashpoints it is main highlight of this game* I'm talking about veteran - always available in the queue, dynamic and beautiful. *a lot of good mmorpg games have already died due to constant pve simplifications* it's my opinion... ......you can not do everything for degrading people. players need to be developed. this is SW after all. may the force be with you =)
p.s: I really hope that optimizing the load on game servers is not the main task of the creator now
i love this game, i love your voice ^^ thanks for this video
As opposed to the top comment on this video, I am a returning player that played originally when the game first launched. It has come a long, long way since launch and is probably the best MMO on the market today. I love everything about it, and if you are a star wars fan; the game becomes that much better.
I haven't played since the revan expansion and there's a whole lot of new stuff, very overwhelming lol. Most of my guild hasn't logged on in years.
So, in short, level scaling is still in the game, and it's even worse than before. Thank you, that's all I needed to know so that I wouldn't touch this game even if it paid me.
I can't wait for another one of these videos next month
i just started playing and tbh im just enjoying the story line, only play a few hours a week so it'll take me some time to get through all 8 but thats fine, im enjoying it anyway
Sith Warrior Story is 10/10
@@itscampception554 I'm doing 100% light Jedi Knight playthrough atm but think i'll try a darksider next so maybe sith warrior!
I wish they've give you the option of changing the difficulty / game design to be like it used to be where it felt like a challenge and was in general more rewarding. The game is just too easy now as I returned after having not touched it in 8 years and was sad to see how dumbed down and unchallenging it's become.
I hope one day they'll give you the option like Class Runescape does where you can play the classic version of SWTOR that had a lot more difficulty and challenge to it. Won't be touching it ever again if this never happens.
I think there is an overwhelming number of things locked behind the sub. Like hiding your headpiece for example. I think they should focus on the galactic season stuff for subs and make 4 of those a year like a battle pass cause that is practically what it is.
I feel like they are moving more towards that. IDK if they plan to rehaul the original restrictions. They have reduced some restrictions in the past though.
I played years ago..I logged in last year and I might as well just start over , i have no idea anything about the game anymore sadly.
One question though, i can't recall if I logged in through steam or old launcher..if I log in through steam will I be able to use my original account ?
started a couple days ago- digging it, just hop they can steer this game upward again
I'll save you a half hour. No it is not worth it.
I am in a wonderful guild that does progression raiding, regular raiding, conquest event nights, gives out prizes, does contests, and just really fosters a wonderful community environment and I can tell you if I was not a part of this guild I would let my subscription lapse and play this game very sparingly.
There just is not enough left anymore for SWTOR on its own to be considered a very good game. I spend an average of 25-45 minutes in a Master Mode FP queue as a healer. 45 fucking minutes. That is insane as a healer which means DPS are waiting even longer. This is just one of the microcosm examples of why this game is not worth coming back to.
Gearing has gone back to the old 1.0 drop system but this time its not even modded gear which means you can't customize your statistics. As cookie cutter as this game was before it has now leapt into the volcano of cookie cutter.
Save your money
Save your time
Go play something else.
I was looking for this when you mentioned it in the other video about if it's worth trying. I see I was just very early. Lol
Yep! RUclips gets cranky if I post stuff at the same time haha.
@@Swtorista well the info is much appreciated! I had to quit playing for a while to finish up med school, and of course as SOON as I unsubscribed a good friend of mine started playing so im probably going to get back into it as soon as I graduate! Lol.
I started this game many years ago, when became F2P.
As a F2P player I was disappointed with the fact, that the last few level were locked behind paywall.
Now I not even expected that will change, but I think I start a new character, to replay what I can until I reach that paywall again.
And maybe it's not expensive, but I only pay in games, if I feel I want to support the developers, and this is not a method which I want to support.
Yet I'm interested in the F2P part again.
F2P is really done well and if you sub one time your good
@@christien6230 You may missed the part of my comment:
" I only pay in games, if I feel I want to support the developers, and this is not a method which I want to support."
I don't like this business method, so I not gonna support it.
@@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe i mean u do get the entire base game + first 2 expansions for free while one sub unlocks all the rest of the expansions ...permanently. thats quite a good deal considering typically games make u buy each and ever expansion separately.
@@Lemon_Force It's not a singleplayer game, it's an MMO RPG.
In MMO there is no terms like "base game or expansions".
If you buy an MMO you should get every single expansion after it for free, (see F2P Star Trek online, or GTA Online as example) and if it's F2P you should get every single expansion for free without buy anything.
And you not get the rest of the "expansions" only the ones released when your sub live.
But as it's an MMO you'll get new "expansions" constantly, which means, you must buy sub each time a new "expansion" come out.
Pay to win money grab scam.
I think I might give it a go again. I've not played since Knights of the Eternal Throne, and I wouldn't mind seeing the new storylines and flashpoints. Oh, and I wonder if my Stronghold still exist :P
I just came back after about a year away and I'm falling in love again.
Since I haven't played since before the Rise of the Hutt Cartel, would you recommend just scrapping my characters and starting over?
Interesting question. Good grief! how many do you have? Why not start one new character and see if you like it and then decide if you want to scrap the old ones. Experiment. Make a new one and progress another and see how it goes for you! Good luck!
@@ladytwinklefangs921 I did one toon for each Class on each side. So 8 in total. I only quit all those years ago because I ran out of stuff to do lol
Î love this game, played it since launch and took occasionally smaller breaks and a pause from it, yet never really canceled it ... but the economy is just.. awkward. Prices are insane. :,)
I love the game, actuially started playing because of your videos two years ago, but i have to take monthly breaks every now and then, cuz I get to sucked in and spend more time than I should.
I'd like to see class stories back. With the Alliance companions included
@@Rainman63x New class stories. Or at least different stories for Force users and Non Force users.
@@Rainman63x yes of course. Sorry, my message was maybe a bit confusing
Nope. I left after everything changed. Feels really slow playing an assassin now. Only class that feels "ok" is bounty hunter imo.
I realized I never unsubed to the game, and have been away for maybe 2 years. May come back, if only for nostalgia and making some new friends.
Galactic Starfighter is still plenty popular. It pops almost as frequently as Unranked Warzones, and is free-to-play.
I am a returning player from Launch Year. I've played threw on my Bounty Hunter threw the level 60 stories and thinking about what to play next. I have a level 50 Jedi Knight, but I am thinking about doing a different class story. Which character class story should I play next?
Play imperial agent or sith warrior
Maybe check out the Agent next for something new!
@@Swtorista That's exactly what I did. I finding myself getting super over leveled for the content I'm in. I cued up for a Veteran Black Talon after I finished Hutta and went from level 10 to level 15 one run! (oops) I'm currently at level 24 leaving Balmora after doing the Class Quests and the Heroics for that planet and going to Nar Shaddah. I'm thinking about skipping the Heroics in Nar Shaddah since I'm overleveled and overgreared for that planet, and then maybe pick start running Heroics again on as I go to new planets and my gear starts to lag behind. I currently have item level 72 gear just from the Dromund Kaas. That said if have even better gear that I can't equip yet! The epics I got from doing Black Tallon are like item level 86. If I had an active subscription going what I'd probably do is que for a Veteran Flashpoints once after each planet and just do the class quests and nothing else. Once a planet might be too often though to be honest, lol.
Swtor Founder here. I have to be brutally honest in saying the game is currently in its worst state ever, and I have little hope for the future because the team working on it is so small. It is still a GREAT Star Wars game, for sure. New players have LOADS of content to go through, and it's one of the BEST Star Wars media immersion vehicles. But for a long term player who has 'done it all', the ONLY thing keeping me in this game is gearing up in R-4. Once I get 340 on tank, healer and DPS, and complete the R-4 achieves, I really can't see myself playing. The insane gearing system regression has gutted most of the PvE content in the game, and relegated maybe the top 5% of the playerbase (who can actually form up for the stupidly tuned new raid) to be able to get past 331 item rating. Seriously, for a game that was obviously low on staff, 6.0 expansion/gearing was perfect. The ONLY benefit in 7.0, IMO, is combat styles. Everything else has been nerfed or is a regression.
The BEST thing the devs can do in a future update is to allow players to earn up to 340 gear from ALL game activities, not just the buggy AF new raid. Unless you are a PvPer that plays just for that, there is literally no point in doing any PvE content for gear. PvP only allows you to get 328 gear. All PvE content rewards 330, so gamers will obviously do the fastest and most lucrative content, which is SM Ops. There is no incentive to do legacy Ops, MM FPs, GSF/PvP (unless you like it) because there is no reward. Daily quests now feel like a chore because of the new currency system. It's just a total mess. It's even causing derision in raid teams and exposing people to the toxic high-end PvE Empire players (you know who you are! "omg who plays Republic?!" kind of people). Troomis summed it up perfectly below tbh
I'd really love to see a re-work of the gearing system, it's pretty complicated this year! I also miss solo players having a route to the best.
It always happens, I also end up coming back to play this game. I was preparing for the latest DLC before I took a break from playing but now since watching this I think I want to get back to playing since they did the whole class system overhaul.
I have very much enjoyed this game ever since it launched! I have taken multiple long-term breaks from the game, but this has always been my comfortable "go to" channel for anything I need to know when I come back.
One issue that I have had is that I rushed through (lots of skipping cutscenes) the story for my single character I have - a Sith Inquisitor/Sorcerer.
I planned on returning to the game next week, but one thing I want to do is get a chance to go back and re-do all of those old quests.
- Is this even possible?? Is it possible for me to be a max level character that has already played through the first 2 or 3 expansions to go back and re-do all of it?
- If it is possible, would it even be worth it? Would I just be better off making a new character?
Last time I played, I saw there was some way to replay old expansions, but all of it was overwhelming to me. If someone is able to talk to me like I'm a complete noob, I would appreciate that!
No you can't re-do :( You could create a new character that's it.
You can re-play the KOTFE/KOTET expansions chapters but that is it, and it doesn't always save your choices chapter to chapter in replays.
When you said “after a 10 year break” I was like “lmao it’s legit been since 2013” 😂
For people who only mainly plays for story content, I would say no wait maby 6 months to a year :D Then come back play whatever scraps we have gotten in that time and quit right after right away. Quit after that insulting "launch" of the Legacy of the Sith.
I always thought if you haven't played a class before 1-50 might be worth returning. 2 of the best reasons why I loved the game different stories and voice acting on my character, both gone at 50 and beyond. It's a bummer.
Very helpful and I guess a lot of work, thank you! Sub.
i play 16 straight years of WoW but this game is my favourite, the only reason every time i leave it is i don't have a single clue in what to do in end game xD
Honestly it's the subscription model that kills it for me, just like WoW... to keep paying constantly for a game is just absurd in my mind, it racks up to a really big amount of money if you keep subscribing for a long time, it just doesn't make sense. I'm a big SW head and I've enjoyed the game as a free player back in 2012/13, but I just can't see myself paying over and over for the same game.
Honestly don't see the big deal in that. It's 15 dollars dude. Even a homeless person can make that in 1 hr. I only really spend $12 for RUclips premium, and recently came back, so yes I have to pay another $15. Honestly, for the insane amount of content it offers, its so worth it. I'm sure you make way more than $15 from your job, I would reconsider.
after ruining classes and gearing and making the story super short i say the 7.0 expantion was a overall failure i know it brough new and nice things but not close to the lv it ruined core part of the game 7.1 brough back modding but still said this whole expnation feel like a huge f you to the main and core player base of swtor the casual/solo player.
They pretty much made a catch up system, 330 is way easier to get than when 7.0 released, sure it's still a bit grindy but not anything near how grindy it was before. If you are a casual player 330 is all you really need, wait for the next catch up system for 340. You'd really only need 340 for the hardest content but you can do everything in 330 gear if you have the right set up/team.
Sounds very similar to FFXIV
Still 6.0 sistem was best the need and want is what ppl dont understand .
If your casual you can only get 330 blue, which isn't really that much better than 328 Purple. Everything else Is locked behind a paywall of content called Operations, that only a small majority enjoy playing. 6.0 gearing was, and is better in just about every way.
@@sisigs4820 fact
What about the daily areas, like section X, Oricon, Yavin, and etc.? I've noticed those areas are way more challenging then they use to be. Almost not worth it to do the dailies due to being tedious to kill the mobs and bosses in them. In other words no longer fun.
I cannot fathom how they'll pull this game out of the shitter after 7.0. They'd have to do a 180 on more than half the changes they made just to even start improving. I honestly have no hope left for my favorite MMO that I played off and on for most of my adult life.
They keep adding so much content, years worth. It is daunting and overwhelming and honestly is one of the reasons I have not yet returned.
I came in on launch, went for about 8 months, and would come back about a month a year afterward. Haven't done that in a few years because there's been pretty much nothing new for years. Also, deleting a bunch of individual class abilities so you could have a character that could be 2 classes but not use both at the same time nor switch between them in the same mission... W.T.F......
They'll never find a perfect balance for all players. I mainly play solo for the story. I just started a new character and I'm at level 40 and just on my second planet. Granted, this comes from leaning more toward being a player of BioWare RPGs, where completing quests is the way to level a player. The problem is that even though I feel compelled to do so, I get robbed of the payoff. I've hustled for 3 days to hit level 40, but my stats are scaled down to compensate for lower-level players on a prologue planet. I understand that the game takes the opposite approach to flashpoints, and scales the stats of lower-level players up. That's fine.
Wouldn't it make more sense just to let the level of players and their gear be what they are? Granted, it would make it an uphill battle out of the gate, but if such was the case, it would encourage players at low levels to seek out the assistance of higher-level players, while still allowing everyone to enjoy the level and gear they work for. As is, player level and gear seem to mean little until a player completes the story and is just going PVP for the sake of it.