Honestly the word “woke” has been thrown around so much it holds little to no weight now. A show, movie or game could just simply have a POC or LGBTQ+ character and it’s instantly deemed “woke”. As long as the media that’s being put out is genuinely good idgaf what the character is
People who throw “woke” around as an insult are wrong by default. Diversity (which is not even its original meaning of “woke”, but is being used as such) is not a bad thing and hopefully never will be again. Sure there are movie directors and game devs who go overboard with it, but even though people constantly cry about the gaming industry being ruined, its always the same 3-4 AAA companies who made garbage games before making them diverse anyway.
Two females holding hands in the background of a comic book = Woke + kajillions dying in the west and artists quitting to leave for thriving non woke utopia Japan apparently.
Agreed. Ppl on one hand point at a movie and cry sexism and ppl on the other hand point at the same movie and cry woke. We be better off if ppl juss stfu.
I truly cannot stand the people who call everything new that releases “woke garbage” it’s the most moronic way a person can criticise a piece of media.
It’s genuinely a brain rotting narrative, and people who make it their lifestyle don’t even act human, they’re so aggressive for no reason, have no individuality, and have such a doomer paranoia personality and convince themselves that everyone around them are woke out of world aliens trying to mind control them, when the majority of us are just trying to live life and not bother anyone, and simply wanting to be represented is apparently the biggest sin to human kind to them, no one is perfect though, but these kinds of people are an enigma lol
@stellviahohenheim I play games and watch movies to enjoy myself, not complain about what people and cultures are represented, because it doesn’t bother me.
The whole RUclips Culture War media discourse has made it so impossible for any upcoming projects to be explored and introduced to the public by spewing out and focusing on hate and labeling everything “woke” if they even see one woman, a black person, or an LGBT character being introduced without even knowing the character yet. Listening to these outraged neckbeard weirdos has made me really depressed and obligated into trying new things which is why I had to unsubscribe from those guys and move on and enjoy the things that I like which actually worked out for me. And one more thing there is content for everyone to enjoy out there.
Exactly!!! This RUclips Culture War ruined internet criticism and discussion. Nowadays you can't have a proper media analysis, discussion and criticism without some brain-dead left wing or right wing moron jumping in and spewing his nonsense about politics. I believe we have to gatekeep these people and disregard their opinions. They want politics out of media? Then how about they throw out politics out of their rotten brains first?!
It sucks because I like to talk critically about media but now so much of the discourse is permeated with "wahhh wokeness wahh" and it just makes engaging in these conversations on the internet so toxic and annoying.
If Star Wars, Alien or Kill Bill came out today, all these people would hate them, I guarantee it but since they're classics, there's nothing woke in them apparently
@@lightskinnedlarry728 those probably are a minority/exception most people liked it, i atleast never seen someone that i know called it woke nor internet people
Ita not just media discourse But modern online discourse in general Nowadays it feels like evryone wants to feel morally, socially, or politically superior they just dont let people enjoy things anymore
Here's my take 1. the "woke" is black slang to be aware of your surroundings and what's really going on. Woke doesn't mean women or minorities 2. We always had shows and characters who are diverse they been around since the 60s or 70s Hell even in black and white films. I grew up with shows like Little bill, El tigre, justice league, vampire in Brooklyn, boondocks etc. There are good shows and movies to this day that feature diversity however there are shows that make diversity in authentic and make unnecessary changes to be diverse such as race or gender swapping even though they can use other already established characters or simply make a new one. As long as it's authentic and feel natural that's a sample of good diversity.
@@JibaJaba funny but that's our slang people took and corrupt it into some other nonsensical BS. Also if words change all the time does Nazi mean someone who disagrees with you? Does feminism mean angry women who want to diminish/discriminate men? Are transwomen women especially in sports?
To add to this, there was a weird phenomenon that happened around the 2010’s. “Woke” and “fake woke” were heavily used terms. “Woke” meaning, to have awareness of typically unseen things in the world (typically societal issues) “Fake woke” meaning you just act woke At a point people started using “woke” in a sarcastic sense, as a replacement for “fake woke” After a while, the sarcastic sense kinda became the default. And here we are! Also to add to your list of diverse shows….American Dragon, Juniper Lee (I forget the full name), Maya & Miguel….shoot, Jimmy Neutron did that awesome episode where Libby discovered she had Egyptian ancestry, and then they gave her twists the rest of the series *and Sheen was Hispanic*
@@Achieme1. While what you said is true it doesn't mean the word hasn't been changed over time to gain a completely different meaning to where it's become a political term along with slang 2. an example of a word changing over time is "gay", it used to just mean being happy but now it can mean both that and being homosexual. Everything you listed could count as a change in definition since you gave them definitions that are associated with them by some people since those are words that gained meaning as insults from your point of view
I was on this stuff before Critical Drinker came around. I was subscribed to Sargon of Akkad and other channels in the Skeptic community. After life led me off of RUclips for a couple months, I came back realizing the whole point of the discourse is to get (at the time) pre teen nerds like me to view the presence of black people or women as a red flag for bad movies.
@foxpro3002got me from 13-15. It finally dawned on me when I told my mom about “oh they makin’ all the women ugly” and she decided to look these videos up, and sat down to show me a video where two balding fat dudes called Mary Jane from spider-man two “ugly”. She then asked me if I’d trust two obese balding men that (in her words) were “uglier then sin” to tell me what to think about video games. I already noticed red flags for a bit before that, I’d see things and think it was a stretch but I suppressed these thoughts because I was terrified by being “gatekept” from all of my favorite hobbies because they were literally all I had. Basically I scared myself into thinking this sloppy garbage, but hey, got out of it now. (That and I kept seeing incel shit about how sexual harassment/assault “wasn’t that bad”. I’d also see people encouraging violence against Jews, specifically claiming they were pushing “the message” and that we should keep Jewish women as sex slaves. Also btw all of this was in a fucking vtuber’s comment section, unfortunately later she pretty much turned into the literal definition of a “pick-me” and now makes anti woke “women bad” stuff and uses anti-semitic dog whistles. The VTuber community can be wild). Anyway, can’t wait for this to be dug up in a few years and have all of this used against me because I’m some “woke libtard” who’s defending “DA JOOOOZZZZZ” and “THE GLOBALIST MARXISTS AGENDA JHGJGKGKKF”
Yeah, I've been seeing those stupid "it's woke" things everywhere. Most of the time they're just nitpicking, not giving proper criticism, and just lying about a game/movie in bad faith. They say modern games/movies are ruined but in all honesty those types of people are why we can't have nice things when I comes to entertainment.
@@TheCapitalWandererfunny story, synthy(synthetic man) called anyone who disagreed with his take on the fallout show as a shill, this is ironic considering Synthy accepted a sponsorship from raid shadow legends.
@@TheCapitalWanderer I don't think that's what he meant by saying people can't enjoy things anymore of course you can still be critical about a product amen is when people criticized everything and everything without looking the positive on what this product can have.
I’ll tell you a big one. Buzzwords. And Buzzphrases. People rely on them too much, it stops them from thinking critically. RUclipsrs and their viewers need to stop relying on them and actually learn the shit they’re talking about.
Woke, modern audience, problematic, racist, sexist, copaganda, DEI, etc etc. All these words and phrases mean nothing anymore to me, because when you use a word or phrase long enough it looses its sting
Bullshit man. Buzzwords have been around in the internet since the beginning, and everyone’s still going to use them when criticizing garbage. The buzzwords helps them think critically without sounding like intellectual.
@@leviticusprime4904There’s no way racist sexist modern audience & problematic mean nothing to you if everyone still used those words in the correct meanings and whatever.
words can not explain how much of an annoying dumbass this guy is, I seriously wish Colin could get in a call with him and just wipe the floor with how stupid all of his critisims are
I hate how people claim to “wake up” when in reality they gloss over or parrot things because it’s what media is supposed to have you say/do. They also can’t seem to understand that just because someone supports moral principles, that dosen’t mean that that community can’t do wrong because they aren’t bigoted or racist in their mind because they stand for something inherently moral.
I think you bring up a lot of good points. I think the biggest problem today, and it’s an issue I fall into sometimes, is that you need to watch something and form your own opinion. You can hear as many takes on something as you want, but if it doesn’t follow your preconceived notion of what you believe you won’t watch the counter argument. But if you watch something you can come to your own thoughts and properly take a stand on it. It’s just hard to keep up with media nowadays and people want the spark notes to save time.
@@donborjuto7321 waaaaaaah he said something I don’t like, so im just gonna call him a leftist. Don’t worry jr. This is a grown up conversation for people who have something called “critical thinking skills.” I know it’s something you don’t totally understand, but you’ll get there someday.
@@Odd1RoBoTI know I'm late but that guy that you were speaking to example that people like that care way too much about their feelings rather what's actually matters and what logical sense.
@usernamesmeannothing is not so much hypocritical, more so the pendulum is swinging back. again, back in 2016 is when the other side of extreme says everything is "racist" and now it's the other other side of extreme says everything is "woke". And it will go on and on switching and swinging back to back until something stop it which is impossible
I mean, not really? I’m sorry to say but I think that’s kind of a strawman, nobody genuinely, or at least very few people, believed everything was racist.
@@MichaMundyidk, I don’t quite see it as a pendulum swinging back. But let’s say it is a pendulum, all I have to say is, I hope not, or if it does? I hope the backlash isn’t big or at least we take 2 steps forward. I think that to pose these two as just “two sides of the same coin” or “a pendulum” creates a false equivalence between the two political sides. Like sure the “woke” side or whatever may be annoying sometimes, but it’s much preferred to the other, which is just “I want to harass minorities and complain about minorities in my media”. Which is honestly what a lot of people have been complaining about since 2016, although it was a lot more subtle back then generally, they couldn’t openly say that as loud as they can nowadays. I also think the reason people complain about “fence sitting” when it comes to takes like this, is that it’s overall a false equivalence to compare the two sides. One side may be annoying sure, but they don’t want to just remove minorities from being seen or possibly just even existing.
I mean, not really? I’m sorry to say but I think that’s kind of a strawman argument that a lot of people participated in, nobody genuinely, or at least very few people, believed everything was racist. However, I do agree that it should have been made MUCH more clear that even if a movie is somewhat problematic, that this shouldn’t a moral indictment on the person. Criticism shouldn’t equal condemnation of a person or people who like the movie, and that should have been made much more clear by the “everything is racist” side as you say.
Nah so long as Synthetic man doesn't talk about wokeness, he actually does good reviews surprisingly. Though he does occasionally have weird takes even outside wokeness, like his Doom Eternal video, I sort of get it, but he worded it so weirdly
Something i absolutely HATE about media discourse now is when people consume literally anything that takes more than 1 braincell to understand they act like they are the media literacy messiah and send death threats or harassment to anyone for having a different opinion on the story or characters Another one is ppl saying "art is interpretive" but getting pissy at any other interpretation than their own
I really appreciate you calling out both sides of the culture war. I get it’s because the right wing side of that shithole is louder after Elon musk bought Twitter, but the overfocusing on them as of late is just going to make it so that the left side of the culture war will eventually be the overly loud ones. As for your brain rot culture thing, I’m going to use my mom as an example since it’s easier to use irl people over online idiots (and am actually giving her a pass on this since she doesn’t partake in these kind of discussions). A lot of people don’t really care what makes something work, just if they enjoy it or not. This is why you hear things like it’s not that deep remarks come from, because they just want something to entertain them. That itself is fine, but the problem is that due to how the internet is they treat their opinion as fact, which leads to the “brain rot culture”. For superhero’s, I’ve noticed a lot of people just lose interest in things if the media is highly fantastical. That’s fine, since it’s just their opinion, but the problem is they put that kind of media down like you shown earlier. This is something I’ve observed with older members of my family. Hopefully my dumbass doesn’t word this in a pretentious way.
That depends on whether the events that happen later in the plot are proactive or not in relationship to said character. In other words, if an event happened because of a choice the character made after surviving, then yes. You're right. But if it's a case of something coincidentally/conveniently happening, something that, in narrative, usually comes across as "phew, good thing this character was there cause he could do/have X thing", then it's most certainly plot armor to get to this specific outcome. Essentially, it comes down to execution and how proactive vs reactive the story is. Edit: should probably mention I'm not sure if you're arguing a specific series of speaking in general. I'm doing the latter, just so we're clear.
I remember wanting to watch the Barbie movie with some friends from college for a while, because a lot of people in my friend circle saw it in theaters and said it was really good. I also wanted to watch it with a female perspective so that way I didn’t make any judgements that were founded purely on my gender. While watching the movie, I was in a discord call with one girl who hated the movie, and two who loved it greatly. I personally didn’t get into the movie (though I really wanted to), and was told I would never “get it” because I’m not a woman. The girl who disliked the movie was told off because she apparently was “ignorant to women’s issues” and the two have had beef ever since. I wished just disliking a movie didn’t somehow mean that the individual is a bad person or something. Like, I’m happy for the people who enjoyed Barbie, I just didn’t get into it like a lot of other people, as did my friend. But in this day and age, apparently not liking a piece of media says something about your morals
And then there's the opposite problem where you say you really like something, only for someone else not to come in and say "well I don't like it, there for it's bad or mid." I absolutely despise those kinds of people.
Honestly both Woke and anti woke people are annoying especially when they don't understand the word. What matters IMO is if it's entertaining and the diversity is authentic/natural
@@Achieme But that's the thing, what's "authentic/natural"? Black people and woman just be existing. All that really matters is entertainment, if companies wanna make random characters black, gay, etc... For no reason I don't really care as long as the game is good
@@e-man7418 take it this way. Black, female or LGBTQ characters are fine. If the character is original as in brand new meaning no race, gender or sexuality swapping of an already existing character it's original. Let's take Batman caped crusader when they gender swap penguin that's inauthentic especially when bruce timm said Batman didn't have enough female villains which is a flat out lie. Characters in Overwatch or Arcane are original, natural and authentic because the characters and world building they also don't make their race, gender or sexuality their entire personality. If Nintendo were to make a Metroid movie that's fine cause samus was always a woman, if they were to make her a midget because body positivity even though she tall AF that's inauthentic. If marvel were to make miles morales or Black panther trans or asexual despite it never being hinted or them being established relationship that's some inauthentic BS. Another example is if you were to race or genderswap a character when there's a character that could've been used. For context if WB were to make a superman movie and they made Clark kent black even though they could've used Val zod or Icon that's not authentic
Yeah I find both sides to be insufferable, at this point. It's only the people in the middle, who don't give a shit either way, that I fuck with. Because they're pretty normal and calm people.
@@VenomBean17 exactly if metroid or bayonetta were to get a movie you got one side being like "Finally some female representation I'm glad we got our first strong independent woman, I hope my fan fic of her being part of the LGBTQ is true" then you got the other side who is like "why are they making Samus a woman I'm sick of this woke garbage" even though she's always been a woman
I lost respect for people like critical drinker after this The Boys Season 4 Review. I literally forgot I was even subscribed to him so I unsubscribed.
I'm the same way for Geeks + Gamers and Yellow Flash. All they do is bitch and focus on the negatives and ignore good entertainment. Hell, they're called Geeks and gamers and yet they aren't even talking about Space Marines 2 or Transformers 1, both good products that they claim they want and never get. They're just whiners at this point
@@Agent_3141 Facts, I think I’m gonna unsubscribe from Yellow Flash as well. I stopped taking him seriously when he complained about Rogues butt being flat in a background scene in X-Men’97 and that was a RUclips short.
Collin: I’m gonna win this fight. Drinker: I’m gunnuh win this fight because I’m a maannnnn, I eat protein and eat barb wiiirrreeee, I wear sunglasses inside to radiate my masculinityyyyy, I only consume things that aspire masculine energyyyyy, I’m no simp eitherrrrr- women are only good to service us meeennn, because men are huntersss, warriorssss, and stroonnggg, like meeeee!
The first time I started questioning the anti woke movement was when the grifters started calling MJ from the Spiderman game ugly. I never thought she was ugly, she was quite normal and plain. I was so confused why they hated her just because she looked plain. Like, what about her as a character? Then the Critical Drinker made a video on the Boys season 4 without watching it first. And shortly after that point, I had completely left the anti woke movement and became apolitical. I agree that there some things that are woke, but I really don't think it's as bad as it's made out to be. Both the anti-woke and pro-woke people are absolutely insufferable pricks, and I am tired of this stupid culture war.
the demonizing of “woke” is crazy. making DEI a bad word is sad when it just stands for “diversity equity and inclusion” i’m black and i grew up only looking up to white heroes and characters. now all of a sudden i finally have some representation to look up to and people are upset.
Yeah I hope it’s a vocal minority, the extremes of both sides are doing more harm than good. People see the communities and think people who play games are all fucking weirdos 😂😂😂
In the end, almost everyone on the internet has some form of brainrot one way or another. I sometimes enjoy cringe shows, that's my brainrot, but it's hypocritical for me to look at another person and say that our gen is better because it isn't brainrotted, which is a lie
I personally don't understand what makes Skibidi Toilet different from all the other weird and honestly worser stuff I've seen back in 2015 and afterwards
Anti-woke youtubers are some of the most annyoing people i've ever seen "Waaah the girl in the game dosen't look like waifu material" JUST PLAY FNAF 2 TO SEE TOY CHICA'S HIPS, JUST PLAY THE SHANTAE GAMES TO SEE SHANTAE IN THAT PRINCESS LEIA OUTFIT OR THAT BLUE BIKINI, JUST PLAY THE SONIC GAME TO SEE ROUGE'S HIPS, JUST THE BATMAN ARKHAM GAMES TO SEE POISON IVY WEARING NOTHING ASIDE FROM A RED SHIRT. JUST STOP CRYING ABOUT EVERY FEMALE IN THE VIDEOGAME NOT BEING 100% ATTRACTIVE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD Anti-woke RUclipsrs like critical drinker are the main reason i can't even say anything bad the modern star wars or the post endgame mcu without being having people calling me homophobic while being autistic and bi
Also, a lot of the female characters they complain about look great in terms of attractiveness anyway (I’m not saying that matters that much, I just mean I don’t see the problem even if you look at just that).
I liked the first 3 seasons of Harley Quinn, I understand that some people don't appreciate seeing Bruce make a mess like that, but the point of the series is to make parody versions of DC characters, so I liked how they handled his trauma
The recent reactions to Ghost Of Yotei kind of made me realize some things. People started looking into the main actress's tweets and started using them as an excuse to not play the game because "she's an activist.". The entire time I couldn't help think "I don't agree with some of things she says, and she probably should've kept some stuff to herself, but what does that have to do with the game she's in?". Don't get me wrong, I hate forced diversity. I think too many pieces of media are trying to hard to be diversive. Concord was a recently example where I felt they were trying to be diverse, when they should've focused more on having better designed characters and fun gameplay. However, it's not as though I'm against game being diversive. I love the Horizon games, and it's a game where I play as a female lead who's gay. The only complaint I have with her in that regard, is that I felt the relationship the writers put her in, felt unnatural and pretty forced. I also feel the same thing towards God Of War Ragnarok to a certain extent. I don't like Sweet Baby Inc. I think they're out to make gaming worse and ruin story telling for the sake of being more inclusive for the people who probably won't play the games they help work on to begin with. However, I'm not gonna immediately dismiss games GOW Ragnarok and Spider-Man 2 just because they worked on them. GOWR has a great scene with Freya that felt earned and it was towards a character who, narratively, deserved it the most. But all people like Synthetic Man could focus on was "OH A WOMAN PUTS DOWN A MAN BECAUSE MAN BAD!!!" and it was exhausting hearing him talk about it. You can not like those games for any number of reasons, but a part of me isn't going to immediately dismiss it because SBI worked on it. Unless they're consulting made the game worse by either character assassinating established characters, or whatever other reason that could've made the game bad. Ultimately, Ghost Of Yotei is a game I'm excited for. I trust Sucker Punch to make a fantastic, because they've yet to make a single bad game. From Sly Cooper to Infamous to Ghost Of Tsushima, I think they're working on something amazing, and I'm not gonna let some dumb shit the actress said on her personal social media ruin my expectations of a game I've been waiting for. Because it's not like she has a say on the actual writing and story telling of the game. The only thing she has to do is act and all I can ask of her is to act well and convincingly. Edit: Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention that recently there was a mod for Ragnarok that got taken down from Nexus Mods, because it changed the character, Angrboda, from being a person of color to just another white person. Basically just like the mod that got rid of pride flags, but even worse because it changed an entire characters design, that was based off of a real person. That felt particularly deplorable to me, and yet people were mad about it being taken off the site rather than what the mod was doing to the game.
Agreed with everything you've said tho I just wanted to add that Sweet Baby is a consultant co. They don't literally go & force devs to be inclusive. But this does not mean I like the work they've done (they were apparently involved in SS KTJL)
The problem is she was probably hired because of those tweets like every good activists like sweet baby Inc that are racists like her so yeah that is why everything is concerned plus is another male character being subistuted by a woman look at my marvel this days and see where this normally goes towards
I agree though I amm of the view that Concord woulda still failed regardless of whether the diversity was forced or not Alot of other factors played into it failing
Based. However it is hypocritical that people are angry when rights attack a left activist who is in the industry when the left has been doing it for the rights in the industry all these years and getting away with it
I admit I'm not a fan of bringing politics and agendas into games (i.e. make it woke) but a lot of RUclips channels I used to follow that covers entertainment news is taking it too far. I used to think that they were complaining because they cared about the product, but now I see they're just hating for the sake of hating. Take a few recent pieces of entertainment for example, like Space Marines 2 or Transformers One. Both are amazing products and don't have any forced agendas in them. You think they would celebrate this, until you realize they don't even care. They focus on the negatives and ignore the good. That's why I unsubscribed to them. I'm tired of nothing but hate and negativity. If you look at these channels almost every video is negative (and the thumbnails are cringy af). If I listened to them and stopped playing any game (like Spider-Man 2) because it has some woke elements in it then I would literally be missing out on a lot of great games. Not to mention when they do praise a product, they almost always go against it the second something bad happens, like Helldivers 2. They're all fake and at this point are just as bad as the people they claim to be against. Haters, echo chambers, and crybabies
I love how andypants or something like that made a video about space marine 2 because it had no wokeness in it instead of ignoring it and focusing on woke games
@@j.i.nthenobody54 TBF now the critical drinker has that on his recommends which means when hes complaining about wokeness it has nothing to do with arcanes. my guess is that at least him specifically he doesnt like it when its forced (a black viking in the year 900 is my guess) anyway drinker last i checked was much "calmer" than say nerdrotic or geeks and gamers
What “political agenda?“ making a character a non white cis het male? These people exist and deserve to be represented. Helldivers has a political agenda off being anti imperialist capitalism, is that also an issue?
not saying theres something wrong with a female lead but theres also nothing wrong with a guy wanting to play as a guy protagonist. he just voiced that opinion in a sarcastic joke type of way
@@ci825 It's not even this part that really upset me, after this clip he went on to say that there were no female samurai in feudal Japan he be yapping nonsense 99% of the time.
@@MoonLight-q4r I know, I've looked it up and I've seen stuff about how there's samurai women who took over for their husbands or something. It proves that he doesn't do research
Why would I take Asmongold seriously when he got gross out drinking water and also, his opinion is invalid since he never played Ghost of tsushima in the first place
okay...how do you get grossed out by drinking water, an basic need for your health, that is like being disgusted by people breathing oxygen which I won't be surprised if Asmongold breathes in carbon dioxide gas 😐
It is still bad though(when it’s actually wokeness)because companies like sweet baby will put creative boundaries on certain games to make it 100% friendly ,or sometimes ruin characters to meet the requirement
What would you consider the difference between merely being out of character and being character assisinated? As you’ve thrown the latter term around a lot and I was unsure if you had a clear criteria that pushes a character over the edge, and if an assassinated character can ever recover
A character assassination is something that utterly breaks the characters principles and morals. Whereas when I say someone is out of character it’s something that doesn’t really break the character it could just be a bad scene with them. And I think a character can recover from being character assassinated it’s just context dependent
I want to especially thank you for pointing out the whole "female protagonist outrage" thing. As a Metroid, Stellar Blade, Celeste, and Resident Evil fan, I have no issues with playing as women in games. I'm willing to be charitable with the people who are bummed that we aren't continuing Jin's story, but to get so unnecessarily angry at the new protagonist just because it's a woman when you have no idea what their actual character is, borders on sexist, incel behavior. You can have your preferences, obviously, but don't get mad over playing as a woman in a video game. Get mad at them being a bad character if they turn out to be so.
the anti woke outrage has gotten a bit out of hand, it's went from criticizing legitimate pandering shoehorned in political points to just "woman/gay person in game, woke!"
@@randomt800kiddo2 Yeah, you can absolutely have women and gay characters and still have them be good characters. I think Undertale and Hi-Fi Rush proved that.
@@tonysonic456 spider-man 2 is a good example of what i'm talking about, people were legitimately on that game because it has pride flags and minorities, like bruh have they not seen new york recently lmao
@@randomt800kiddo2 On the one hand, I can understand people not really wanting to be reminded of current day politics during their escapism, but on the other hand, getting mad at a flag and one or two side quests involving gay characters is more than a little extreme.
I am not shocked that people would say stuff like this, especially when people are saying “ ITS JUST A OPINION! “ when they responding to a debunking video.
I agree with a lot of this but I especially agree with the political brain rot. People are too invasive and over do it nowadays. “You’re a wokey if you think gays should be in games” Or “Supporting police is like peak Nazism and….” blah blah blah…. Go outside and talk to an actual person
My thing is why do people feel the need to represent, these companies thrive in dividing people, whether that be race, religion, sexuality. Instead of just making coherent material that isn’t plagued by politics. A lot of people are quick to judge but never look through both sides glasses. And this is the problem.
You see, I don't think the problem it's the need but you said the why, and for me the real problem of the why its that these companies don't really care for race, religion or sexuality, they just want the easy money and need some kind of light to attract the moths into the flame. If there's a game that have these kind of topics, that isn't the problem, the thing is when these topics aren't there for some kind of respect for the communities or even to really represent these people.
Westerners will consider anyone not choosing a side coward these days or just label them as the other side like they’re looking for enemies. I mean think of how easy it would be if my work is gay or so manly, a lot of people will view that. Haters and lovers
You pointed out a lot of things that are genuinely a problem in media discourse and outlined a lot of ways to properly criticize something in pointing out these flaws in an argument or discussion nowadays and you spoke very precisely. Great job man 🤙🤙
THIS!!! I am so happy that you made this video. Now I wanna add a few more points of my own and wanna add on to your points: *Creators will Ignore Vital Criticism:* We should also bring up another problem with criticism. Because extremist makes the dumbest criticism possible and don’t know how to be civil, a creator with a functioning brain would look at it and say something like "Well that was stupid and I won’t listen to it." However it’ll get to a point where people will just straight up ignore *ALL* criticism because they’re just gonna bunch it up with those brain rot criticisms and why wouldn’t they. That’s why it’s important to put your thoughts into what you say. *A Lose Lose Situation:* This is the thing I have always been annoyed with. No matter what a creator does, an annoying and loud group will *ALWAYS* find a reason to tear it apart. For the right, if you make a woman character that isn’t just a walking smash object, your character is just a "GiRl BoSs." For the left, if you give a woman character actual flaws and give her a point of conflict in a story, you’re writing woman wrong and apparently are just a misogynistic douche (I’m looking straight at you Lily Orchard). It’s so annoying and it kills creative freedom. Speaking of which… *Death of Creative Freedom:* Because of the whole dumb culture war and what not, whatever a creator does and whatever design choices they have can be immediately judged with no sense of remorse. For example, April O’Neil has been race swapped many times and no matter what it gets nothing but hate. It’s one thing to not like a design, but if your only reason for hating it is just "ShE’s BlAcK" you need to take a shower! Almost every time a character is race swapped, it’s always a different iteration of the character. It would’ve been weird if say the character was white in one season but then was black in an another season, but they don’t do that. Plus even when a character is race/gender swapped, people usually do it just for fun. That’s what these people don’t understand, that someone can race and gender swap a character just for the heck of it. Now let’s get to my final point… *If it’s bad, Politics shouldn’t matter:* Y’all know exactly what I mean when I say this. I’d say a TV show, Movie, Video Game or whatever is bad, politics shouldn’t matter. The only thing that matters is good writing, and that should always be the case. If you’re gonna critique media, put your petty biases and personal political views aside for the time being. Anyways that’s all the stuff I really wanted to say. Apologies if it’s super long. I just really wanted to get this off my chest 😅
I personally are in left-leaning spaces all the time and rarely do people complain about a game not being diverse. There are people who do say that GENERALLY games aren’t very diverse and that it is a problem, but usually don’t go after individual people (note that there are exceptions to this but not nearly to the same extent as in the right). There is a massive difference between noticing systemic issues and going after every individual. And there is also a difference between boycotting a game just because you disagree with it and doing so because buying the game would fund terrible causes (Hogwarts legacy being a prime example of this, with the money funding literal torture camps (I wish I was making the up)).
I also add even when you debunk a channel that’s wrong let’s say its think before you sleep or Joseph Anderson Their fanbases have such a bad yes man mentality they’ll rip apart any who dare to criticize their holy and untouchable creators
Some of the members of these fanbases can be saved by talking to them, bringing valid points, and overall trying to explain why they're wrong. However the others... they are probably cannot be saved (just let them rot 😒)
Sometimes i feel like being Neutral/balanced on the internet is impossible, you either get called "grifter" or "fence sitter" like bro is it wrong to have a neutral opinion until I actually try and experience the product or get more information myself so then i can later conclude my opinion on it? I swear it's either "you are my side or the enemy side" 😮💨
There is a difference between being neutral on the games themselves until you play them and being neutral in a discourse with actual racists, transphobes and homophobes with their opponents being people who at worst are a bit overzealous when protecting gay and black people. Saying that those two sides are in any manner equal does imply that you do not take much issue with bigotry. You can both admit the faults of both sides while acknowledging that one side is still demonstrably better than the other.
@@davidpacifico1019 so if someone buys a kellog product to feed their family they automatically imply they fully approve of slavery? People just buy stuff without thinking or they dont want to think about it Chocolate is a slave business any hershey bar you bought proves you’re a monster Your phone and computer were cheaply produced by abused workers
@@davidpacifico1019 this argument is just a massive guilt trip for left leaning people to be like “ see? We’re the GOOD guys” The world would be better off if neither of you existed along with the issues i mentioned
Agreed. People rlly make the stupidest arguments about superheroes or animes the most. And what blows my mind is ppl tht have the most to say about these topics don’t even read the comics or the mangas and only know about what they are talking about via movies or wht ppl say about it on the internet. Some morons genuinely believe spiderman can body the hulk and homelander. 🤦🏾♂️ ppl look at 1 comic panel and run wit it.
Isn't comic stuff inconsistent though? I think it all depends on the writer and their wants and powerscaling is kinda fruitless for anything objective. But if you do it for fun and don't try to make it hard and true fact then it might be a fun thing to do. Also, DW would body the Hulk.
@@channel45853 who’s DW? Sometimes comics can be inconsistent but it’s not common. More focus and creativity goes into comics and mangas more than any sort of motion pictures,hell they are based from the comics.
@@hermanporter1747I get hulk. But homelander? Really? The dude isnt that strong, he only seems that way because everyone else is significantly weaker, that’s even emphasized by how weak he seems in the later seasons with the introduction of victoria neuman, and NOW ESPECIALLY with “new butcher”, his best power at the current moment is politics. He cant even throw a proper punch because of how little he relies on his physical strength in combat, and there’s one major factor that alot of people just seem to forget with spider man: spider sense. If that ability worked consistently and the writers didnt care about peter breezing through every single encounter, he just wouldn’t lose a fight, simple as that, he’d have to be outsmarted or fight some sort of celestial being. This comment ironically radiates the same level of nonsense it makes fun of. The only major advantage homelander has is heat vision, even then, spider man would be clever enough to somehow counteract that, improvisation is one of his best traits, and even if he couldn’t, it wouldn’t even be remotely as difficult as dodging electro’s lightning
@@lm_slayer1 Jesus Christ. Ok ima say this loud enough for yall in the back. Nothing on EARTH can HARM HL. He can fly and has heat vision so he doesn’t even have to touch Peter. He’s stronger,faster and more durable. Spider-Man can be shot,burned,blitzed,u can hurt him wit a brick. NONE OF THT CAN HURT HL. So how tf do u bring ur brain to think tht Spider-Man can possibly do ANYTHING to harm a mf tht can survive a NUKE. Spider-Man strongest feat is supporting a building. SUPPORTING not lifting,SUPPORTING. HL is out of his league.
@@hermanporter1747 … do you comprehend what spider sense is. It doesn’t matter how strong homelander is, why tf would it, he wouldn’t be able to hit him once. Do I need to bring up the fact that electro can also fly? And his lightning flies significantly faster than homelander’s laser beam? Are you dense?
I genuinely feel bad for people who sincerely view media as woke or not woke. With that kind of lens you already make up your mind before even indulging in the media and you limit yourself on what you can enjoy and what you can't.
Not really. Woke media and non-woke media is really really easy to identify. Games, movies or series that have an aggressive push for diversity or worse equality/socialism are woke. I have seen woke crap multiple times and the reason they are all bad, is due to lack of substance. The key word I used was aggressive, shows like Velma are extremely woke, due to the fact that it is telling white people that they are inherently evil and being a straight male is the equivalent of being the spawn of Satan. I don't need to support the people who hate me, why should I? Why would I want to be told I am inherently problematic? This is what we mean by wokeness, it is raising minorities, not through treating them as good morally ethical characters, but by lowering the bar and destroying the integrity of their target of pure envy. Representation of characters is a good, but it must make sense and be natural or else it doesn't come off as sincere.
Not to mention that they've destroyed the term beyond recognition. Woke used to just mean striving for representation and equality. Now these people will look at any protagonist who isn't a straight white male and claim that it's "forced diversity" as if their the only type of people who exist on the planet. Side note, nice Girls Last Tour profile pic.
Nobody even wants to have discussions about stuff anymore because of people like drinker, it’s always “nothing is good anymore it’s all woke and soulless” it’s legit exhausting
Thanks. He yaps a lot in the video crying about getting critized by trolls lol. Like, ignore them if they're not making sense, not yap mindlessly. This video is soooo bad. I hate that the half next part of the vudeo is the only good part. "I hate arguing to people" >Make a video arguing to people why he is right and why they're wrong, without even showing more context. This video is 1% about the title and 99% about crying and showinf off his ego that "I'm right you're wrong.* 🙄
another thing is that ppl dont seem to realize how important it is to be critical or a 'hater'. if we never think about or discuss anything critically, how are we supposed to be media literate? if we're not literate, how are supposed to understand media at all? if we dont understand media then how are we supposed to understand real life? ppl dont seem to realize that things dont exist in a vacuum and that everything IS deep.
I have mad respect for this video, man. This has gotten so bad, I've had to take breaks from these freak political circle jerks I've taken respite in music reviews, MUSIC REVIEWS. You know it's bad when you make a music fan sound level-headed and unbiased. The media review content on this site is more toxic than Chernobyl if it were coated in lead paint.
Okay so about that scene we're you can see Peter's face in the car, it is really weird for him to do that but I think the windows are supposed to be tinted, but they couldn't really film the scene with those since well they're tinted so they just untitled them for the scene, and plus there are other times when something like this happened like in spider verse miles runs on the walls when he learns he has spider powers literally with only like his lower clothing on
I wish bad writing was just bad writing and critics/audience didn’t have to do complicated mental gymnastics to find a problem with what they’re watching/playing
These people would get a heart attack of Metroid came out today. "U play as a woman??" Or Terminator, Alien, Star Wars, Avatar, Static Shock, X-men, Justice League...
Don't you just love it when a review starts of reasonable mentioning that the writers made some awful decisions, and then the reviewer suddenly mentions the word 'woke' which then makes you question the rest of the review? Reviews like this make it hard to determine whether someone's actually critiquing, or is just finding an excuse to be a jerk.
Couldn't disagree more Why should he care about a yt comment firstly Secondly, I don't see why it's an issue if someone doesn't elaborate their opinion, you just care too much and shouldn't be on a high horse just because you explain your point. That's actual brainrot
@rxins2431 do you know what a joke is? Plus, if you don't agree with something and you don't elaborate, why are you hiven leaving a comment? Plus, how dumb are you to think that my comment was something serious?
As a guy on the anti woke side I agree discourse and arguing is annoying, I’ve lost respect for so many people because they choose a side and became dicks about it and I’m tired of explaining why I believe this or that over and over again, I just want to have disagreements for crying out loud, and I don’t want to think of Anita sarkeesian when I’m watching an edgy comedy.
The whole point of the discourse is to get pre teen nerds to associate the presence of black people, women, etc. as a red flag/scapegoat for bad movies.
Back then games decade ago used to be fun and discussion about gameplay. Now its about Hate this and that, im tired of it. Just let people make games and its also a business so they should know who their audience is.
What I’m sick of with modern media discourse or criticism is the purity testing of the people involved in creating said media. Such as oh this person has different political beliefs than me or this person is outspoken about some I don’t believe in or some such nonsense so this media will obviously be agenda driven even if they aren’t the one in charge of creating said media. This goes for games books comics music tv shows or movies. It’s truly brain-rot inducing.
@@Comicbroe405yup I don’t blame her for blocking the keep you angry at everything crowd who only make videos to keep their audience angry and it also happened during and after the development of GoW Ragnarok as well.
@@joshuafrimpong244 She's got strong opinions on her Twitter about stuff that's considered "woke" so they think she's some crazy activist who's opinions will somehow affect the game despite literally fucking nothing is there to show for it. She also has a decent 10 year long career working on a few franchises like COD, Cyberpunk, Valorant. She also blocked many grifter type accs (cuz they would prolly send hate her way) & they're spinning it as her blocking ppl she doesn't agree with.
I do agree with most of what's said in this video. Although I do admittedly think some of the stuff mentioned, like the one from Spider-Man Far From Home, can still kind of fall under "nitpicking," mainly because I do think stuff like him taking his mask off in the car feels like a minor flaw in the movie's storytelling. There's no real solid defense for it for sure (aside from him just being frantic and not really thinking about it I suppose?), but I do think it being a commonly glossed over point in the movie that had very little attention drawn to it, is what makes it come off as somewhat "nitpicky," since whether or not it actively breaks the immersion in a story is what makes it become "subjective." Not really forming an argument here, just smth I noticed.
To be fair, criticism doesn't help creators improve our work. All it is is just people telling artists that they shouldn't make their art the way they want to and should only be allowed to make their art the way that somebody else says they should. The artist should be the one deciding whether or not their art is good because we're the ones doing all the work. Constantly telling us what to do doesn't help us, it just limits our capabilities because people want to hold us to constantly changing standards and rules that we have no say in. It's a hierarchal relationship that shouldn't exist with us artists on the bottom and the criticizers on top controlling what we can or can't do and not letting us have any creative freedom because they think they know what's best, they think they know what's good or bad and keeps us slaves to that black and white dichotomy.
I agree a bit though, I worry that "objective" reviewing is homogenizing art and is forcing artists to write in a certain way to be considered good. Like, for example, Colin says that three dimesional characters were interesting and I guess that is what he factors into writing being good. But why? Can character not be one note and still be interesting? Why do they need three dimensions when they can serve the purpose with just two or one, and possibly be more entertaining for doing so? All critisms can be lobbied at any story, but so what? I don't think anyone can really agree on what makes good pacing. How good a character is seems entirely subjective. Some critique work for not being realistic or for breaking internal logic. But why should a work have to stick to realism and when is a work not breaking its own logic but adding to the logic?
I don’t see the fridge thing as a nitpick, because it changes the story. Every time Peter isn’t immobilized by something heavier than a fridge, I have to ask, "How?" The fridge scene clearly showed that Peter’s strength caps at "fridge level."
Honestly, I very much envy this video. Sure. I was gonna show up to disagreement day on why you think far from home is bad. But as I thought about it I couldn't really think of Anything to defend it with? And honestly thank you so much. Colin you really enlighten me.
The main reason I don't like Batman is his personality...at least, the way it's depicted in today's media. Back in the days of Batman: TAS; the character had compassion, restraint and actually showed sympathy towards some of the villains he fought against. Twenty-some years later and more current iterations depict him as more paranoid, egotistical, distant, obsessed with his so-called "mission" and doesn't believe anyone can change for the better. Also, what you said about political brain rot is so on-point. I keep hearing and seeing people use the term "woke" so much that it comes off as white noise, at this point; especially since no one even USES the term anymore. Anybody who still DOES is (as you said) a complete moron
It's hard to say anything anymore, because we live in a world of terminally online zoomers, brainrot content, debby downers being unnecessarily hostile.
There's also thoses people who say "i call everything woke because everything is woke!! Like a plague!!",not defending their "opinions" just saying what the other guy said basically
I completely unsubscribed from Endymion because all he ever said was “Woke this, woke that” in all of his videos and throws up his hands at the slightest hint of progressive themes like an optional lesbian kiss in Horizon Forbidden West. Saw a tweet that the guy was having a field day with Ghost of Yottei due to a female protagonist. Saying that Tsushima was built on masculinity. Talk about cope.
Gamer nerds thinking they are “masculine” is the most laughable shit in years. All of these guys would have gotten bullied by the actual jocks in school
@@dc7981 There's zero correlation between being a "jock" and masculinity. Wtf are you even saying lmao. What a child like understanding about this concepts.
16:43 every cop is not inherently a bad person but person who is a cop , shouldn’t be. The laws in which they’re required to enforce are bias, harmful, & or both to people of marginalized & poorer communities.
@@C0LIN.Colin, what the man is saying is that the police are forced to enforce laws that are harmful to those from marginalized communities. So even if every cop isn't evil or corrupt their institution is. Cops aren't there to protect and serve they're there to control "problem" populations to protect the richest people's assets. I mean dude, they started out as slave catchers.
I’m actually one of those who wanted to see more of Jin Sakai’s story but I don’t understand the hate for the new protag, maybe Jin may appear as a npc but still play a part in the story? While I don’t like radical leftist or grifters on that part, man people like Synthetic man go for the most insignificant things to hate on stuff and call it “woke”.
You are right about people hating others because they like something they don't I once got labeled as a PlayStation fanboy for selecting Last of us 2 as most favourite game in a poll where they had cod mw2,witchers 3 and elden ring That dude went as so far as saying TLOU2 being trash is factual and not a mere opinion despite me saying multiple times its my personal opinion and said some lame shit on why it sucks like saying its pacing is bad or abby is a terrible charector blah blah blah...... And when I pointed the things I like about it even saying I didn't find such problems.... He started saying that I am some dumbo for like TLOU 2 thats when I finally lost it and asked him if he hates the game or is he hating me...... I never got a reply to that to this day
Had an argument with my friend about why he thought Spider man 2 shouldn't have been at $70. He said the combat wasn't worth $70 and it was an exact copy of Miles Morales. I asked if he played the game and he said no. I asked him if he liked the game and said yeah. How do you like something you've never touched and base an opinion about it. That's like me having an opinion on having intercourse, or my baby cousin having an opinion on how I manage my finances.
The game isnt worth 70 because prices rising is a bad sign games have been 60 for years and i dont like the fact inflation is getting so bad thats changing
22:00 tbh im guilty of this with gow Ragnarok, i immediately hate any bad review of this or 2018 gow simply because the majority of them just dont like they are different than the original trilogy
I just hate it when companies change the race, sexuality, gender, or beliefs of a character only for political points. If the actor is a terrible person then I probably won't watch it since I don't want to support them, but in the media they should keep things the same unless it will make the story better. I use the word woke to refer to the companies who ruin stories with their agendas, and prioritize representation over a good product.
And that's generally what everyone means by "woke" but people wanna straw man by saying that it's about trans or black people or women as main characters, when in all reality it's about people pushing their ideologies in favor of a good story
@@sin978that’s certainly NOT what most people mean when they say “woke”. It’s at best the minority. The term “woke” doesn’t even work since the term implies that the politics themselves are the issue and not HOW they are implemented. The problem is the LACK of story, the NEGLECT of quality, not what the politics are. If the game were to be pushing far-right ideologies over the story it would still be bad (although probably worse since diversity is simply good for character design). Calling it “pandering” or “preaching” would work much, much better to get the point across.
@@sin978Strawmanning?? Come the f off,man, you can't be serious Anti-woke don't complain about Tlou, Cod Cold War and so on so on simply because there are trans characters in game?? Didn't they hated tlou EVEN BEFORE THE RELEASE because they THOUGHT that Abby was trans? Don't they always complain about black characters and lgbtq? Oh, fck off
if you are going to make an argument, you should do what he says and explain why, not skate around your reasoning, don't just say you are wrong, provide why
@@nont18411 That’s because he actually watched the show but his criticisms weren’t that valid either. He even clickbait his audience by saying it’s an awful show yet he says he likes some things.
Im really baffled by how badly the whole ACAB thing even happened. Started over complacency in the force but obviously that is becoming less an issue. We still need a lot of work on our police but that doesn’t mean everyone is horrible yowza it was more meant to be about the infrastructure and not the individual themselves
I don't take people who use the word woke as an argument seriously. Unless the "wokeness" is actually ruining the plot then i would understand what they are talking about. But 99.9% of the time the word is just an excuse to say that they hate diversity without saying they hate diversity. I still to this day don't understand why people think because a game has something other than a straight white male it makes it a bad game.
Now, I agree that politics can ruin a story. There’s a difference between having a character that just happens to be black or female or gay, versus having a character that you purposefully made black or female or gay because you’re trying to push an agenda or fill some sort of quota. Also 15:00 Wtf is this guy talking about ☠️☠️
I just hate it when companies change the race, sexuality, gender, or beliefs of a character only for political points. If the actor is a terrible person then I probably won't watch it since I don't want to support them, but in the media they should keep things the same unless it will make the story better. I don't complain about female characters for being female unless they were gender swapped. I don't like it when female characters are writen to be "feminist, girl bosses who can do anything" ie. Captain marvel. I use the word woke to refer to the companies who ruin stories with their agendas, and prioritize representation over a good product.
Yeah. It's very hit or miss if people actually understand why it's an issue when I point out how completely inconsistent Ant-Man is in the MCU. You cannot tell me that he retains his mass when shrinking allowing him to punch at full force while tiny and then also have him grow in size to gain mass. Either mass is retained or it isn't. You can't have it both ways unless you explain how that's possible. But I usually either get good points but it doesn't matter or, stop thinking so hard about it and just enjoy the fun movie.
“You may have touched first place, but you’ve never touched a woman”
Perfect clip to use for these guys
“You’re right! I haven’t lost my virginity cause I NEVER LOSE!”
@@nerdgeekman if I can’t take his first place, then I’ll have to take his virginity!
“Royalguard this. Royalguard that. But tell me, Dante, have you ever been touched by a woman?” -Vergil, The Alpha And The Omega
"See ya later sex haver!"
"See you later, sex-haver!"
Honestly the word “woke” has been thrown around so much it holds little to no weight now. A show, movie or game could just simply have a POC or LGBTQ+ character and it’s instantly deemed “woke”. As long as the media that’s being put out is genuinely good idgaf what the character is
@KaoticKwan it never did to begin with cuz the word was always used wrong
People who throw “woke” around as an insult are wrong by default. Diversity (which is not even its original meaning of “woke”, but is being used as such) is not a bad thing and hopefully never will be again. Sure there are movie directors and game devs who go overboard with it, but even though people constantly cry about the gaming industry being ruined, its always the same 3-4 AAA companies who made garbage games before making them diverse anyway.
@@arpadszabo661 facts
Two females holding hands in the background of a comic book = Woke + kajillions dying in the west and artists quitting to leave for thriving non woke utopia Japan apparently.
Agreed. Ppl on one hand point at a movie and cry sexism and ppl on the other hand point at the same movie and cry woke. We be better off if ppl juss stfu.
I truly cannot stand the people who call everything new that releases “woke garbage”
it’s the most moronic way a person can criticise a piece of media.
It’s genuinely a brain rotting narrative, and people who make it their lifestyle don’t even act human, they’re so aggressive for no reason, have no individuality, and have such a doomer paranoia personality and convince themselves that everyone around them are woke out of world aliens trying to mind control them, when the majority of us are just trying to live life and not bother anyone, and simply wanting to be represented is apparently the biggest sin to human kind to them, no one is perfect though, but these kinds of people are an enigma lol
I think it's dependent on what it is because I don't think people call everything thing woke because we'd be thinking it's just that
Dei stooge detected lol
@stellviahohenheim I play games and watch movies to enjoy myself, not complain about what people and cultures are represented, because it doesn’t bother me.
@@stellviahohenheimhow old are you? Because you act like a child.
The whole RUclips Culture War media discourse has made it so impossible for any upcoming projects to be explored and introduced to the public by spewing out and focusing on hate and labeling everything “woke” if they even see one woman, a black person, or an LGBT character being introduced without even knowing the character yet. Listening to these outraged neckbeard weirdos has made me really depressed and obligated into trying new things which is why I had to unsubscribe from those guys and move on and enjoy the things that I like which actually worked out for me. And one more thing there is content for everyone to enjoy out there.
Exactly!!!
This RUclips Culture War ruined internet criticism and discussion.
Nowadays you can't have a proper media analysis, discussion and criticism without some brain-dead left wing or right wing moron jumping in and spewing his nonsense about politics.
I believe we have to gatekeep these people and disregard their opinions.
They want politics out of media? Then how about they throw out politics out of their rotten brains first?!
You made the right choice by unsubscribing from those mediocre channels.
@@javelin-4442 thanks man 🤝🏽
I think it's dependent on what it it since some media focus more on certain things and not much on story
It sucks because I like to talk critically about media but now so much of the discourse is permeated with "wahhh wokeness wahh" and it just makes engaging in these conversations on the internet so toxic and annoying.
If Star Wars, Alien or Kill Bill came out today, all these people would hate them, I guarantee it but since they're classics, there's nothing woke in them apparently
Arcane came out and was loved atleast the First season
Arcane defeats your point.
@@sacredbeastzenon right wing tards call it woke, how is he wrong?
@@ShadalooPlayernot really there was a huge amount of people calling it woke when it came out and still doing so.
@@lightskinnedlarry728 those probably are a minority/exception most people liked it, i atleast never seen someone that i know called it woke nor internet people
Ita not just media discourse
But modern online discourse in general
Nowadays it feels like evryone wants to feel morally, socially, or politically superior they just dont let people enjoy things anymore
I agree
Politics is an idol to some people
Here's my take
1. the "woke" is black slang to be aware of your surroundings and what's really going on. Woke doesn't mean women or minorities
2. We always had shows and characters who are diverse they been around since the 60s or 70s Hell even in black and white films. I grew up with shows like Little bill, El tigre, justice league, vampire in Brooklyn, boondocks etc. There are good shows and movies to this day that feature diversity however there are shows that make diversity in authentic and make unnecessary changes to be diverse such as race or gender swapping even though they can use other already established characters or simply make a new one. As long as it's authentic and feel natural that's a sample of good diversity.
Words gain and change meanings all the time and "Woke" is no different to where it now has both meanings associated with it
@@JibaJaba funny but that's our slang people took and corrupt it into some other nonsensical BS.
Also if words change all the time does Nazi mean someone who disagrees with you?
Does feminism mean angry women who want to diminish/discriminate men?
Are transwomen women especially in sports?
To add to this, there was a weird phenomenon that happened around the 2010’s.
“Woke” and “fake woke” were heavily used terms. “Woke” meaning, to have awareness of typically unseen things in the world (typically societal issues) “Fake woke” meaning you just act woke
At a point people started using “woke” in a sarcastic sense, as a replacement for “fake woke”
After a while, the sarcastic sense kinda became the default. And here we are!
Also to add to your list of diverse shows….American Dragon, Juniper Lee (I forget the full name), Maya & Miguel….shoot, Jimmy Neutron did that awesome episode where Libby discovered she had Egyptian ancestry, and then they gave her twists the rest of the series *and Sheen was Hispanic*
@@Achieme1. While what you said is true it doesn't mean the word hasn't been changed over time to gain a completely different meaning to where it's become a political term along with slang 2. an example of a word changing over time is "gay", it used to just mean being happy but now it can mean both that and being homosexual. Everything you listed could count as a change in definition since you gave them definitions that are associated with them by some people since those are words that gained meaning as insults from your point of view
@@Kurotama11 hold on i know you aint leaving static shock, proud family, rocket power, Gargoyles, total drama, kids next door hanging
Cant agree on nitpicks being a “valid criticism”, nitpicks to me are just complaints that don’t matter in the grand scheme of things
Thing is, they kinda do.
Why should there be small but noticeable flaws in a story left unquestioned?
I was on this stuff before Critical Drinker came around. I was subscribed to Sargon of Akkad and other channels in the Skeptic community.
After life led me off of RUclips for a couple months, I came back realizing the whole point of the discourse is to get (at the time) pre teen nerds like me to view the presence of black people or women as a red flag for bad movies.
Alex here is peak-human.
@@MegaToonzNetwork Thanks
they got me in my late teens 💀
@foxpro3002got me from 13-15. It finally dawned on me when I told my mom about “oh they makin’ all the women ugly” and she decided to look these videos up, and sat down to show me a video where two balding fat dudes called Mary Jane from spider-man two “ugly”. She then asked me if I’d trust two obese balding men that (in her words) were “uglier then sin” to tell me what to think about video games.
I already noticed red flags for a bit before that, I’d see things and think it was a stretch but I suppressed these thoughts because I was terrified by being “gatekept” from all of my favorite hobbies because they were literally all I had.
Basically I scared myself into thinking this sloppy garbage, but hey, got out of it now.
(That and I kept seeing incel shit about how sexual harassment/assault “wasn’t that bad”. I’d also see people encouraging violence against Jews, specifically claiming they were pushing “the message” and that we should keep Jewish women as sex slaves. Also btw all of this was in a fucking vtuber’s comment section, unfortunately later she pretty much turned into the literal definition of a “pick-me” and now makes anti woke “women bad” stuff and uses anti-semitic dog whistles. The VTuber community can be wild).
Anyway, can’t wait for this to be dug up in a few years and have all of this used against me because I’m some “woke libtard” who’s defending “DA JOOOOZZZZZ” and “THE GLOBALIST MARXISTS AGENDA JHGJGKGKKF”
Yeah, I've been seeing those stupid "it's woke" things everywhere. Most of the time they're just nitpicking, not giving proper criticism, and just lying about a game/movie in bad faith. They say modern games/movies are ruined but in all honesty those types of people are why we can't have nice things when I comes to entertainment.
People can't appreciate anything anymore
if you're positive about a product, it's "toxic positivity" or a shill, man, i can't enjoy anything on the internet now.
@@TheCapitalWandererfunny story, synthy(synthetic man) called anyone who disagreed with his take on the fallout show as a shill, this is ironic considering Synthy accepted a sponsorship from raid shadow legends.
Ain't no way💀 like I knew this guy is pathetic and hypocritical but damn
@@TheCapitalWanderer I don't think that's what he meant by saying people can't enjoy things anymore of course you can still be critical about a product amen is when people criticized everything and everything without looking the positive on what this product can have.
I’ll tell you a big one. Buzzwords. And Buzzphrases.
People rely on them too much, it stops them from thinking critically. RUclipsrs and their viewers need to stop relying on them and actually learn the shit they’re talking about.
Woke, modern audience, problematic, racist, sexist, copaganda, DEI, etc etc. All these words and phrases mean nothing anymore to me, because when you use a word or phrase long enough it looses its sting
People in general do since some people call anyone a predator
Bullshit man. Buzzwords have been around in the internet since the beginning, and everyone’s still going to use them when criticizing garbage. The buzzwords helps them think critically without sounding like intellectual.
@@leviticusprime4904There’s no way racist sexist modern audience & problematic mean nothing to you if everyone still used those words in the correct meanings and whatever.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosi try my best not to use those words simply cause they replace actual criticism will shallowness
I’m sick of people like Synthetic Man being weirdos
Fr that guy and critical drinker annyoing af
words can not explain how much of an annoying dumbass this guy is, I seriously wish Colin could get in a call with him and just wipe the floor with how stupid all of his critisims are
You know a guy's a incel weirdo when Eve from Stellar Blade is too realistic for him
im sick of peole saying transformers one is a flop when it has toy sales and a sequel is already in development and is no 1 in chinise box office
@@ENOURMOUSSCALE at Least they didn't call transformers one "woke" or anything like right?....RIGHT?
I hate how people claim to “wake up” when in reality they gloss over or parrot things because it’s what media is supposed to have you say/do. They also can’t seem to understand that just because someone supports moral principles, that dosen’t mean that that community can’t do wrong because they aren’t bigoted or racist in their mind because they stand for something inherently moral.
I think you bring up a lot of good points. I think the biggest problem today, and it’s an issue I fall into sometimes, is that you need to watch something and form your own opinion. You can hear as many takes on something as you want, but if it doesn’t follow your preconceived notion of what you believe you won’t watch the counter argument. But if you watch something you can come to your own thoughts and properly take a stand on it. It’s just hard to keep up with media nowadays and people want the spark notes to save time.
Isn't that the point of making an opinion?
I love the cultural pushback against these idiots. You and Th3 Birdman are doing the lords work.
@@donborjuto7321 waaaaaaah he said something I don’t like, so im just gonna call him a leftist. Don’t worry jr. This is a grown up conversation for people who have something called “critical thinking skills.” I know it’s something you don’t totally understand, but you’ll get there someday.
@@donborjuto7321you liked your own comment, didn’t you?
@@Odd1RoBoTWhat grown adult spells waaaaah? 😂 yeah I'm dealing with an adult here
@@drbubonic4942 one that doesn’t care if he hurts your fragile feelings lol.
@@Odd1RoBoTI know I'm late but that guy that you were speaking to example that people like that care way too much about their feelings rather what's actually matters and what logical sense.
Remember in 2016 we had people calling everything racist. Well we have that today but the word racist is replaced with woke
*slams desk* THANK YOU! They really have no idea how hypocritical they are, dude.
@usernamesmeannothing is not so much hypocritical, more so the pendulum is swinging back.
again, back in 2016 is when the other side of extreme says everything is "racist" and now it's the other other side of extreme says everything is "woke". And it will go on and on switching and swinging back to back until something stop it which is impossible
I mean, not really? I’m sorry to say but I think that’s kind of a strawman, nobody genuinely, or at least very few people, believed everything was racist.
@@MichaMundyidk, I don’t quite see it as a pendulum swinging back. But let’s say it is a pendulum, all I have to say is, I hope not, or if it does? I hope the backlash isn’t big or at least we take 2 steps forward. I think that to pose these two as just “two sides of the same coin” or “a pendulum” creates a false equivalence between the two political sides. Like sure the “woke” side or whatever may be annoying sometimes, but it’s much preferred to the other, which is just “I want to harass minorities and complain about minorities in my media”. Which is honestly what a lot of people have been complaining about since 2016, although it was a lot more subtle back then generally, they couldn’t openly say that as loud as they can nowadays. I also think the reason people complain about “fence sitting” when it comes to takes like this, is that it’s overall a false equivalence to compare the two sides. One side may be annoying sure, but they don’t want to just remove minorities from being seen or possibly just even existing.
I mean, not really? I’m sorry to say but I think that’s kind of a strawman argument that a lot of people participated in, nobody genuinely, or at least very few people, believed everything was racist. However, I do agree that it should have been made MUCH more clear that even if a movie is somewhat problematic, that this shouldn’t a moral indictment on the person. Criticism shouldn’t equal condemnation of a person or people who like the movie, and that should have been made much more clear by the “everything is racist” side as you say.
Going after synthetic man is like stealing candy from a baby. He legitimately has like 2 braincells left lmao
We can say the same about AndyPants. Lol
@@TorosAndMakis53 AndyShitHisPants lmao
The guy really has 2 neurons competing for third place. I need to go back to watch him he says shit that is so absurd that I find funny
it's really just the same braincell splitting down the middle attached to a dead neuron
Nah so long as Synthetic man doesn't talk about wokeness, he actually does good reviews surprisingly.
Though he does occasionally have weird takes even outside wokeness, like his Doom Eternal video, I sort of get it, but he worded it so weirdly
Something i absolutely HATE about media discourse now is when people consume literally anything that takes more than 1 braincell to understand they act like they are the media literacy messiah and send death threats or harassment to anyone for having a different opinion on the story or characters
Another one is ppl saying "art is interpretive" but getting pissy at any other interpretation than their own
I really appreciate you calling out both sides of the culture war. I get it’s because the right wing side of that shithole is louder after Elon musk bought Twitter, but the overfocusing on them as of late is just going to make it so that the left side of the culture war will eventually be the overly loud ones. As for your brain rot culture thing, I’m going to use my mom as an example since it’s easier to use irl people over online idiots (and am actually giving her a pass on this since she doesn’t partake in these kind of discussions). A lot of people don’t really care what makes something work, just if they enjoy it or not. This is why you hear things like it’s not that deep remarks come from, because they just want something to entertain them. That itself is fine, but the problem is that due to how the internet is they treat their opinion as fact, which leads to the “brain rot culture”. For superhero’s, I’ve noticed a lot of people just lose interest in things if the media is highly fantastical. That’s fine, since it’s just their opinion, but the problem is they put that kind of media down like you shown earlier. This is something I’ve observed with older members of my family. Hopefully my dumbass doesn’t word this in a pretentious way.
This video should be used in schools and colleges around the world to bring back media literacy
Something people don't understand about plot armor is that the plot doesn't force then to survive but more of the plot happens because they survive
Great way to put it
That depends on whether the events that happen later in the plot are proactive or not in relationship to said character. In other words, if an event happened because of a choice the character made after surviving, then yes. You're right. But if it's a case of something coincidentally/conveniently happening, something that, in narrative, usually comes across as "phew, good thing this character was there cause he could do/have X thing", then it's most certainly plot armor to get to this specific outcome.
Essentially, it comes down to execution and how proactive vs reactive the story is.
Edit: should probably mention I'm not sure if you're arguing a specific series of speaking in general. I'm doing the latter, just so we're clear.
I remember wanting to watch the Barbie movie with some friends from college for a while, because a lot of people in my friend circle saw it in theaters and said it was really good. I also wanted to watch it with a female perspective so that way I didn’t make any judgements that were founded purely on my gender.
While watching the movie, I was in a discord call with one girl who hated the movie, and two who loved it greatly. I personally didn’t get into the movie (though I really wanted to), and was told I would never “get it” because I’m not a woman. The girl who disliked the movie was told off because she apparently was “ignorant to women’s issues” and the two have had beef ever since.
I wished just disliking a movie didn’t somehow mean that the individual is a bad person or something. Like, I’m happy for the people who enjoyed Barbie, I just didn’t get into it like a lot of other people, as did my friend. But in this day and age, apparently not liking a piece of media says something about your morals
I like the Barbie movie but why didn't she like it?
@@KazeShikamaru She thought the messaging was really on the nose to the point that it got distracting.
And then there's the opposite problem where you say you really like something, only for someone else not to come in and say "well I don't like it, there for it's bad or mid." I absolutely despise those kinds of people.
Barbie is like Transformers 2007
I just like the goofy ahh stuff.
Honestly both Woke and anti woke people are annoying especially when they don't understand the word.
What matters IMO is if it's entertaining and the diversity is authentic/natural
@@Achieme
But that's the thing, what's "authentic/natural"? Black people and woman just be existing.
All that really matters is entertainment, if companies wanna make random characters black, gay, etc... For no reason I don't really care as long as the game is good
@@e-man7418 take it this way.
Black, female or LGBTQ characters are fine. If the character is original as in brand new meaning no race, gender or sexuality swapping of an already existing character it's original.
Let's take Batman caped crusader when they gender swap penguin that's inauthentic especially when bruce timm said Batman didn't have enough female villains which is a flat out lie.
Characters in Overwatch or Arcane are original, natural and authentic because the characters and world building they also don't make their race, gender or sexuality their entire personality.
If Nintendo were to make a Metroid movie that's fine cause samus was always a woman, if they were to make her a midget because body positivity even though she tall AF that's inauthentic.
If marvel were to make miles morales or Black panther trans or asexual despite it never being hinted or them being established relationship that's some inauthentic BS.
Another example is if you were to race or genderswap a character when there's a character that could've been used. For context if WB were to make a superman movie and they made Clark kent black even though they could've used Val zod or Icon that's not authentic
Yeah I find both sides to be insufferable, at this point. It's only the people in the middle, who don't give a shit either way, that I fuck with. Because they're pretty normal and calm people.
@@Achieme
Oh, then yeah that’s fair.
Heck I’ve been saying they should stop trying to rehash the same heros and try making new ones anyway.
@@VenomBean17 exactly if metroid or bayonetta were to get a movie you got one side being like "Finally some female representation I'm glad we got our first strong independent woman, I hope my fan fic of her being part of the LGBTQ is true" then you got the other side who is like "why are they making Samus a woman I'm sick of this woke garbage" even though she's always been a woman
I lost respect for people like critical drinker after this The Boys Season 4 Review. I literally forgot I was even subscribed to him so I unsubscribed.
I'm the same way for Geeks + Gamers and Yellow Flash. All they do is bitch and focus on the negatives and ignore good entertainment. Hell, they're called Geeks and gamers and yet they aren't even talking about Space Marines 2 or Transformers 1, both good products that they claim they want and never get. They're just whiners at this point
@@Agent_3141 Facts, I think I’m gonna unsubscribe from Yellow Flash as well. I stopped taking him seriously when he complained about Rogues butt being flat in a background scene in X-Men’97 and that was a RUclips short.
I never had it to begin with cuz he was always 🧠 💀
@@Agent_3141ok
When i heard him say he didn’t even watch the szn & is going off audience reviews to form HIS review, i was appalled 😂
Critical Drinker vs Colin, Boxing match when??
"Let them fight"
Colin is gonna punch the alcohol poisoning out of him
Collin: I’m gonna win this fight.
Drinker: I’m gunnuh win this fight because I’m a maannnnn, I eat protein and eat barb wiiirrreeee, I wear sunglasses inside to radiate my masculinityyyyy, I only consume things that aspire masculine energyyyyy, I’m no simp eitherrrrr- women are only good to service us meeennn, because men are huntersss, warriorssss, and stroonnggg, like meeeee!
@@superherochestsymbol1032 Have you watched one drinker video?
I had to stop watching multiple media commentary channels because they think everything is “woke”.
The first time I started questioning the anti woke movement was when the grifters started calling MJ from the Spiderman game ugly. I never thought she was ugly, she was quite normal and plain. I was so confused why they hated her just because she looked plain. Like, what about her as a character?
Then the Critical Drinker made a video on the Boys season 4 without watching it first. And shortly after that point, I had completely left the anti woke movement and became apolitical. I agree that there some things that are woke, but I really don't think it's as bad as it's made out to be. Both the anti-woke and pro-woke people are absolutely insufferable pricks, and I am tired of this stupid culture war.
I thought MJ looked older in the First Game
If you really think MJ looks normal and plain you must be blind dude I’m sorry
the demonizing of “woke” is crazy. making DEI a bad word is sad when it just stands for “diversity equity and inclusion” i’m black and i grew up only looking up to white heroes and characters. now all of a sudden i finally have some representation to look up to and people are upset.
@@FlashGordonRox69 K
Yeah I hope it’s a vocal minority, the extremes of both sides are doing more harm than good. People see the communities and think people who play games are all fucking weirdos 😂😂😂
FINALLY!!!
A brainrot discussion video that doesn't mention skibidi toilet or Gen Alpha!
In the end, almost everyone on the internet has some form of brainrot one way or another. I sometimes enjoy cringe shows, that's my brainrot, but it's hypocritical for me to look at another person and say that our gen is better because it isn't brainrotted, which is a lie
@@joshuafrimpong244we are all brainrotted just in different ways
@@leviticusprime4904 exactly
I personally don't understand what makes Skibidi Toilet different from all the other weird and honestly worser stuff I've seen back in 2015 and afterwards
@@joshuafrimpong244 fr like i hate skibidi toilet but i cant act superior cuz i used to dance to fuckin nyan cat for 1 hour 💀
Anti-woke youtubers are some of the most annyoing people i've ever seen
"Waaah the girl in the game dosen't look like waifu material"
JUST PLAY FNAF 2 TO SEE TOY CHICA'S HIPS, JUST PLAY THE SHANTAE GAMES TO SEE SHANTAE IN THAT PRINCESS LEIA OUTFIT OR THAT BLUE BIKINI, JUST PLAY THE SONIC GAME TO SEE ROUGE'S HIPS, JUST THE BATMAN ARKHAM GAMES TO SEE POISON IVY WEARING NOTHING ASIDE FROM A RED SHIRT.
JUST STOP CRYING ABOUT EVERY FEMALE IN THE VIDEOGAME NOT BEING 100% ATTRACTIVE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
Anti-woke RUclipsrs like critical drinker are the main reason i can't even say anything bad the modern star wars or the post endgame mcu without being having people calling me homophobic while being autistic and bi
How is drinker homophobic? I don’t seem to recall anything of that sort. Some bad takes, sure, but no homophobia
@@billjoe8734Fair assessment
Also, a lot of the female characters they complain about look great in terms of attractiveness anyway (I’m not saying that matters that much, I just mean I don’t see the problem even if you look at just that).
You really think it's cause of critical that you can't critique star wars now lol.
@@billjoe8734 A lot of people think Drinker and others like him are bigoted.
I liked the first 3 seasons of Harley Quinn, I understand that some people don't appreciate seeing Bruce make a mess like that, but the point of the series is to make parody versions of DC characters, so I liked how they handled his trauma
The recent reactions to Ghost Of Yotei kind of made me realize some things. People started looking into the main actress's tweets and started using them as an excuse to not play the game because "she's an activist.". The entire time I couldn't help think "I don't agree with some of things she says, and she probably should've kept some stuff to herself, but what does that have to do with the game she's in?". Don't get me wrong, I hate forced diversity. I think too many pieces of media are trying to hard to be diversive. Concord was a recently example where I felt they were trying to be diverse, when they should've focused more on having better designed characters and fun gameplay.
However, it's not as though I'm against game being diversive. I love the Horizon games, and it's a game where I play as a female lead who's gay. The only complaint I have with her in that regard, is that I felt the relationship the writers put her in, felt unnatural and pretty forced.
I also feel the same thing towards God Of War Ragnarok to a certain extent. I don't like Sweet Baby Inc. I think they're out to make gaming worse and ruin story telling for the sake of being more inclusive for the people who probably won't play the games they help work on to begin with. However, I'm not gonna immediately dismiss games GOW Ragnarok and Spider-Man 2 just because they worked on them. GOWR has a great scene with Freya that felt earned and it was towards a character who, narratively, deserved it the most. But all people like Synthetic Man could focus on was "OH A WOMAN PUTS DOWN A MAN BECAUSE MAN BAD!!!" and it was exhausting hearing him talk about it. You can not like those games for any number of reasons, but a part of me isn't going to immediately dismiss it because SBI worked on it. Unless they're consulting made the game worse by either character assassinating established characters, or whatever other reason that could've made the game bad.
Ultimately, Ghost Of Yotei is a game I'm excited for. I trust Sucker Punch to make a fantastic, because they've yet to make a single bad game. From Sly Cooper to Infamous to Ghost Of Tsushima, I think they're working on something amazing, and I'm not gonna let some dumb shit the actress said on her personal social media ruin my expectations of a game I've been waiting for. Because it's not like she has a say on the actual writing and story telling of the game. The only thing she has to do is act and all I can ask of her is to act well and convincingly.
Edit: Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention that recently there was a mod for Ragnarok that got taken down from Nexus Mods, because it changed the character, Angrboda, from being a person of color to just another white person. Basically just like the mod that got rid of pride flags, but even worse because it changed an entire characters design, that was based off of a real person. That felt particularly deplorable to me, and yet people were mad about it being taken off the site rather than what the mod was doing to the game.
Agreed with everything you've said tho I just wanted to add that Sweet Baby is a consultant co. They don't literally go & force devs to be inclusive. But this does not mean I like the work they've done (they were apparently involved in SS KTJL)
The problem is she was probably hired because of those tweets like every good activists like sweet baby Inc that are racists like her so yeah that is why everything is concerned plus is another male character being subistuted by a woman look at my marvel this days and see where this normally goes towards
We literally just went through this in Final Fantasy 14 trust me complain now while there's still a chance to fix it.
I agree though I amm of the view that Concord woulda still failed regardless of whether the diversity was forced or not
Alot of other factors played into it failing
Based. However it is hypocritical that people are angry when rights attack a left activist who is in the industry when the left has been doing it for the rights in the industry all these years and getting away with it
I admit I'm not a fan of bringing politics and agendas into games (i.e. make it woke) but a lot of RUclips channels I used to follow that covers entertainment news is taking it too far.
I used to think that they were complaining because they cared about the product, but now I see they're just hating for the sake of hating. Take a few recent pieces of entertainment for example, like Space Marines 2 or Transformers One. Both are amazing products and don't have any forced agendas in them. You think they would celebrate this, until you realize they don't even care. They focus on the negatives and ignore the good.
That's why I unsubscribed to them. I'm tired of nothing but hate and negativity. If you look at these channels almost every video is negative (and the thumbnails are cringy af).
If I listened to them and stopped playing any game (like Spider-Man 2) because it has some woke elements in it then I would literally be missing out on a lot of great games.
Not to mention when they do praise a product, they almost always go against it the second something bad happens, like Helldivers 2. They're all fake and at this point are just as bad as the people they claim to be against. Haters, echo chambers, and crybabies
They won't speak about SM 2 or TF One cuz proves their agenda isn't true.
@@Comicbroe405X-Men 97 and Arcane also call out their bullshit
I love how andypants or something like that made a video about space marine 2 because it had no wokeness in it instead of ignoring it and focusing on woke games
@@j.i.nthenobody54 TBF now the critical drinker has that on his recommends which means when hes complaining about wokeness it has nothing to do with arcanes. my guess is that at least him specifically he doesnt like it when its forced (a black viking in the year 900 is my guess) anyway drinker last i checked was much "calmer" than say nerdrotic or geeks and gamers
What “political agenda?“ making a character a non white cis het male? These people exist and deserve to be represented. Helldivers has a political agenda off being anti imperialist capitalism, is that also an issue?
Can’t wait for grifters to call Ghost of Yotei Ghost of Wokeshima 😂
GhOsT oF wOkEtEi
There's a great RUclipsr named Jacobsweeny who made fun of this lol
@@noobtub333 I was not invested in that game. Now I'm in
It's already happening
@@arjuna6224 let me guess. They're doing this for "gamers", when in reality they are doing this to defend their fragile ego
14:19 I had to unsub from Asmon after this one. Yikes. His takes are shitty 99% of the time but this took the platinum trophy
not saying theres something wrong with a female lead but theres also nothing wrong with a guy wanting to play as a guy protagonist. he just voiced that opinion in a sarcastic joke type of way
@@ci825 It's not even this part that really upset me, after this clip he went on to say that there were no female samurai in feudal Japan he be yapping nonsense 99% of the time.
@ci825 bro quit being a snowflake. Nier Automata is an amazing game and 2/3 of the playable characters are women
@@docileyoke he’s idiot then because there used to be Samurai Woman who defended their home
@@MoonLight-q4r I know, I've looked it up and I've seen stuff about how there's samurai women who took over for their husbands or something. It proves that he doesn't do research
Why would I take Asmongold seriously when he got gross out drinking water and also, his opinion is invalid since he never played Ghost of tsushima in the first place
He also said being a streamer is a harder job than a 9-5. What a joke
Asmongold is a coomer final boss
okay...how do you get grossed out by drinking water, an basic need for your health, that is like being disgusted by people breathing oxygen which I won't be surprised if Asmongold breathes in carbon dioxide gas 😐
His gaming setup disgusts me. I'll never understand why people follow him....
@@Agent_3141tbf living in the mess that is his house it must be hard LMAO
I used to be one of those “woke bad!!1!1” mfs. I’m glad I’m not anymore. Just play game and have fun 👍
Side note, your swinging is really good
It is still bad though(when it’s actually wokeness)because companies like sweet baby will put creative boundaries on certain games to make it 100% friendly ,or sometimes ruin characters to meet the requirement
Me too😭😭😭
@@Shazol- thank god you got smart
@@slwoo7432 no
What would you consider the difference between merely being out of character and being character assisinated? As you’ve thrown the latter term around a lot and I was unsure if you had a clear criteria that pushes a character over the edge, and if an assassinated character can ever recover
A character assassination is something that utterly breaks the characters principles and morals. Whereas when I say someone is out of character it’s something that doesn’t really break the character it could just be a bad scene with them. And I think a character can recover from being character assassinated it’s just context dependent
I want to especially thank you for pointing out the whole "female protagonist outrage" thing. As a Metroid, Stellar Blade, Celeste, and Resident Evil fan, I have no issues with playing as women in games. I'm willing to be charitable with the people who are bummed that we aren't continuing Jin's story, but to get so unnecessarily angry at the new protagonist just because it's a woman when you have no idea what their actual character is, borders on sexist, incel behavior. You can have your preferences, obviously, but don't get mad over playing as a woman in a video game. Get mad at them being a bad character if they turn out to be so.
the anti woke outrage has gotten a bit out of hand, it's went from criticizing legitimate pandering shoehorned in political points to just "woman/gay person in game, woke!"
@@randomt800kiddo2 Yeah, you can absolutely have women and gay characters and still have them be good characters. I think Undertale and Hi-Fi Rush proved that.
@@tonysonic456 spider-man 2 is a good example of what i'm talking about, people were legitimately on that game because it has pride flags and minorities, like bruh have they not seen new york recently lmao
@@randomt800kiddo2 On the one hand, I can understand people not really wanting to be reminded of current day politics during their escapism, but on the other hand, getting mad at a flag and one or two side quests involving gay characters is more than a little extreme.
Real.
I am not shocked that people would say stuff like this, especially when people are saying “ ITS JUST A OPINION! “ when they responding to a debunking video.
I agree with a lot of this but I especially agree with the political brain rot. People are too invasive and over do it nowadays.
“You’re a wokey if you think gays should be in games”
Or
“Supporting police is like peak Nazism and….” blah blah blah…. Go outside and talk to an actual person
Every time I hear someone use the term “woke” or “bigot” I gotta brace myself because I know I’m about to hear an absolutely godawful take.
@@scootermcpeanuts6699 Exactly like Politics has melted people's brains to mush
My thing is why do people feel the need to represent, these companies thrive in dividing people, whether that be race, religion, sexuality. Instead of just making coherent material that isn’t plagued by politics. A lot of people are quick to judge but never look through both sides glasses. And this is the problem.
Ain't no one causing division except these weird whyte men
You see, I don't think the problem it's the need but you said the why, and for me the real problem of the why its that these companies don't really care for race, religion or sexuality, they just want the easy money and need some kind of light to attract the moths into the flame. If there's a game that have these kind of topics, that isn't the problem, the thing is when these topics aren't there for some kind of respect for the communities or even to really represent these people.
It’s much easier to cash in on a simple concept that attracts certain types of people than to actually make those concepts work properly.
Westerners will consider anyone not choosing a side coward these days or just label them as the other side like they’re looking for enemies. I mean think of how easy it would be if my work is gay or so manly, a lot of people will view that. Haters and lovers
@@hot-_-fries1254 your comment is a diamond in the rough
You pointed out a lot of things that are genuinely a problem in media discourse and outlined a lot of ways to properly criticize something in pointing out these flaws in an argument or discussion nowadays and you spoke very precisely. Great job man 🤙🤙
THIS!!! I am so happy that you made this video. Now I wanna add a few more points of my own and wanna add on to your points:
*Creators will Ignore Vital Criticism:* We should also bring up another problem with criticism. Because extremist makes the dumbest criticism possible and don’t know how to be civil, a creator with a functioning brain would look at it and say something like "Well that was stupid and I won’t listen to it." However it’ll get to a point where people will just straight up ignore *ALL* criticism because they’re just gonna bunch it up with those brain rot criticisms and why wouldn’t they. That’s why it’s important to put your thoughts into what you say.
*A Lose Lose Situation:* This is the thing I have always been annoyed with. No matter what a creator does, an annoying and loud group will *ALWAYS* find a reason to tear it apart. For the right, if you make a woman character that isn’t just a walking smash object, your character is just a "GiRl BoSs." For the left, if you give a woman character actual flaws and give her a point of conflict in a story, you’re writing woman wrong and apparently are just a misogynistic douche (I’m looking straight at you Lily Orchard). It’s so annoying and it kills creative freedom. Speaking of which…
*Death of Creative Freedom:* Because of the whole dumb culture war and what not, whatever a creator does and whatever design choices they have can be immediately judged with no sense of remorse. For example, April O’Neil has been race swapped many times and no matter what it gets nothing but hate. It’s one thing to not like a design, but if your only reason for hating it is just "ShE’s BlAcK" you need to take a shower! Almost every time a character is race swapped, it’s always a different iteration of the character. It would’ve been weird if say the character was white in one season but then was black in an another season, but they don’t do that. Plus even when a character is race/gender swapped, people usually do it just for fun. That’s what these people don’t understand, that someone can race and gender swap a character just for the heck of it. Now let’s get to my final point…
*If it’s bad, Politics shouldn’t matter:* Y’all know exactly what I mean when I say this. I’d say a TV show, Movie, Video Game or whatever is bad, politics shouldn’t matter. The only thing that matters is good writing, and that should always be the case. If you’re gonna critique media, put your petty biases and personal political views aside for the time being.
Anyways that’s all the stuff I really wanted to say. Apologies if it’s super long. I just really wanted to get this off my chest 😅
I personally are in left-leaning spaces all the time and rarely do people complain about a game not being diverse. There are people who do say that GENERALLY games aren’t very diverse and that it is a problem, but usually don’t go after individual people (note that there are exceptions to this but not nearly to the same extent as in the right). There is a massive difference between noticing systemic issues and going after every individual. And there is also a difference between boycotting a game just because you disagree with it and doing so because buying the game would fund terrible causes (Hogwarts legacy being a prime example of this, with the money funding literal torture camps (I wish I was making the up)).
Is go take a shower the new go touch grass?
@@lancethefilmguy9392 Well they work both ways
I also add even when you debunk a channel that’s wrong let’s say its think before you sleep or Joseph Anderson
Their fanbases have such a bad yes man mentality they’ll rip apart any who dare to criticize their holy and untouchable creators
Wait when did tbys get debunked?
@@Theworld01090 it was more of an example, like I’ve seen videos that have debunked him and his fanbase always comes and defends the guy
Some of the members of these fanbases can be saved by talking to them, bringing valid points, and overall trying to explain why they're wrong.
However the others... they are probably cannot be saved (just let them rot 😒)
@@calebtitler1847 can you give examples I might have a watch.
I still feel bad for Lilymation
Sometimes i feel like being Neutral/balanced on the internet is impossible, you either get called "grifter" or "fence sitter" like bro is it wrong to have a neutral opinion until I actually try and experience the product or get more information myself so then i can later conclude my opinion on it? I swear it's either "you are my side or the enemy side" 😮💨
yeah, no matter what you do, you end up getting screamed at.
There is a difference between being neutral on the games themselves until you play them and being neutral in a discourse with actual racists, transphobes and homophobes with their opponents being people who at worst are a bit overzealous when protecting gay and black people. Saying that those two sides are in any manner equal does imply that you do not take much issue with bigotry.
You can both admit the faults of both sides while acknowledging that one side is still demonstrably better than the other.
@@davidpacifico1019 i agree
@@davidpacifico1019 so if someone buys a kellog product to feed their family they automatically imply they fully approve of slavery?
People just buy stuff without thinking or they dont want to think about it
Chocolate is a slave business any hershey bar you bought proves you’re a monster
Your phone and computer were cheaply produced by abused workers
@@davidpacifico1019 this argument is just a massive guilt trip for left leaning people to be like “ see? We’re the GOOD guys”
The world would be better off if neither of you existed along with the issues i mentioned
Agreed. People rlly make the stupidest arguments about superheroes or animes the most. And what blows my mind is ppl tht have the most to say about these topics don’t even read the comics or the mangas and only know about what they are talking about via movies or wht ppl say about it on the internet. Some morons genuinely believe spiderman can body the hulk and homelander. 🤦🏾♂️ ppl look at 1 comic panel and run wit it.
Isn't comic stuff inconsistent though? I think it all depends on the writer and their wants and powerscaling is kinda fruitless for anything objective. But if you do it for fun and don't try to make it hard and true fact then it might be a fun thing to do.
Also, DW would body the Hulk.
@@channel45853 who’s DW? Sometimes comics can be inconsistent but it’s not common. More focus and creativity goes into comics and mangas more than any sort of motion pictures,hell they are based from the comics.
@@hermanporter1747I get hulk. But homelander? Really? The dude isnt that strong, he only seems that way because everyone else is significantly weaker, that’s even emphasized by how weak he seems in the later seasons with the introduction of victoria neuman, and NOW ESPECIALLY with “new butcher”, his best power at the current moment is politics. He cant even throw a proper punch because of how little he relies on his physical strength in combat, and there’s one major factor that alot of people just seem to forget with spider man: spider sense.
If that ability worked consistently and the writers didnt care about peter breezing through every single encounter, he just wouldn’t lose a fight, simple as that, he’d have to be outsmarted or fight some sort of celestial being. This comment ironically radiates the same level of nonsense it makes fun of.
The only major advantage homelander has is heat vision, even then, spider man would be clever enough to somehow counteract that, improvisation is one of his best traits, and even if he couldn’t, it wouldn’t even be remotely as difficult as dodging electro’s lightning
@@lm_slayer1 Jesus Christ. Ok ima say this loud enough for yall in the back. Nothing on EARTH can HARM HL. He can fly and has heat vision so he doesn’t even have to touch Peter. He’s stronger,faster and more durable. Spider-Man can be shot,burned,blitzed,u can hurt him wit a brick. NONE OF THT CAN HURT HL. So how tf do u bring ur brain to think tht Spider-Man can possibly do ANYTHING to harm a mf tht can survive a NUKE. Spider-Man strongest feat is supporting a building. SUPPORTING not lifting,SUPPORTING. HL is out of his league.
@@hermanporter1747 … do you comprehend what spider sense is. It doesn’t matter how strong homelander is, why tf would it, he wouldn’t be able to hit him once.
Do I need to bring up the fact that electro can also fly? And his lightning flies significantly faster than homelander’s laser beam? Are you dense?
I genuinely feel bad for people who sincerely view media as woke or not woke. With that kind of lens you already make up your mind before even indulging in the media and you limit yourself on what you can enjoy and what you can't.
Not really. Woke media and non-woke media is really really easy to identify. Games, movies or series that have an aggressive push for diversity or worse equality/socialism are woke. I have seen woke crap multiple times and the reason they are all bad, is due to lack of substance. The key word I used was aggressive, shows like Velma are extremely woke, due to the fact that it is telling white people that they are inherently evil and being a straight male is the equivalent of being the spawn of Satan. I don't need to support the people who hate me, why should I? Why would I want to be told I am inherently problematic? This is what we mean by wokeness, it is raising minorities, not through treating them as good morally ethical characters, but by lowering the bar and destroying the integrity of their target of pure envy.
Representation of characters is a good, but it must make sense and be natural or else it doesn't come off as sincere.
Not to mention that they've destroyed the term beyond recognition. Woke used to just mean striving for representation and equality. Now these people will look at any protagonist who isn't a straight white male and claim that it's "forced diversity" as if their the only type of people who exist on the planet.
Side note, nice Girls Last Tour profile pic.
Dustborn
Nobody even wants to have discussions about stuff anymore because of people like drinker, it’s always “nothing is good anymore it’s all woke and soulless” it’s legit exhausting
13:19 The point I was waiting for.
Thanks. He yaps a lot in the video crying about getting critized by trolls lol. Like, ignore them if they're not making sense, not yap mindlessly. This video is soooo bad. I hate that the half next part of the vudeo is the only good part.
"I hate arguing to people"
>Make a video arguing to people why he is right and why they're wrong, without even showing more context.
This video is 1% about the title and 99% about crying and showinf off his ego that "I'm right you're wrong.* 🙄
The think that really makes me mad about all this dishonesty about the media we watch is RUclips turning a blind eye to the dishonesty.
another thing is that ppl dont seem to realize how important it is to be critical or a 'hater'. if we never think about or discuss anything critically, how are we supposed to be media literate? if we're not literate, how are supposed to understand media at all? if we dont understand media then how are we supposed to understand real life? ppl dont seem to realize that things dont exist in a vacuum and that everything IS deep.
I’m so sick of these people calling stuff woke
Can’t wait for that psuedo intellectual digimon RUclipsr to attack this video cause you dared to bring up his pookie bear Synth man lol.
What digimon RUclipsr? That sounds hilarious.
I have mad respect for this video, man. This has gotten so bad, I've had to take breaks from these freak political circle jerks I've taken respite in music reviews, MUSIC REVIEWS. You know it's bad when you make a music fan sound level-headed and unbiased. The media review content on this site is more toxic than Chernobyl if it were coated in lead paint.
14:59 Somehow I did not have “real women aren’t sexy” on my worst takes of all time bingo card…
Okay so about that scene we're you can see Peter's face in the car, it is really weird for him to do that but I think the windows are supposed to be tinted, but they couldn't really film the scene with those since well they're tinted so they just untitled them for the scene, and plus there are other times when something like this happened like in spider verse miles runs on the walls when he learns he has spider powers literally with only like his lower clothing on
I agree, Colin’s criticism towards the mcu Spider-Man movies is done with bad faith.
Boy I been taken showers, like everyday. Nice video by the way. Keep it up. 👍
I wish bad writing was just bad writing and critics/audience didn’t have to do complicated mental gymnastics to find a problem with what they’re watching/playing
Agreed instead people rely on a buzzword to fit their narrative and not going after the actual problem.
These people would get a heart attack of Metroid came out today. "U play as a woman??"
Or Terminator, Alien, Star Wars, Avatar, Static Shock, X-men, Justice League...
Person: (Simply talks to another person of the same sex in a non-romatic way)
Society: *oMg tHiS piEcE of mEdIa iS wOkE*
i have found a new favorite youtuber and this is the first video ive seen
Don't you just love it when a review starts of reasonable mentioning that the writers made some awful decisions, and then the reviewer suddenly mentions the word 'woke' which then makes you question the rest of the review?
Reviews like this make it hard to determine whether someone's actually critiquing, or is just finding an excuse to be a jerk.
21:14 You cooked with this, bro
Couldn't disagree more
Why should he care about a yt comment firstly
Secondly, I don't see why it's an issue if someone doesn't elaborate their opinion, you just care too much and shouldn't be on a high horse just because you explain your point. That's actual brainrot
@rxins2431 do you know what a joke is? Plus, if you don't agree with something and you don't elaborate, why are you hiven leaving a comment? Plus, how dumb are you to think that my comment was something serious?
There is no way “I Really Like Slop!” is an actual published book, I refuse to believe it is
As a guy on the anti woke side
I agree discourse and arguing is annoying, I’ve lost respect for so many people because they choose a side and became dicks about it and I’m tired of explaining why I believe this or that over and over again, I just want to have disagreements for crying out loud, and I don’t want to think of Anita sarkeesian when I’m watching an edgy comedy.
There is no real reason for beig agaisnt diversity if you aren't bigoted
@@atanaZion and there is no need for politicizing it for the left
@@UndeadNerdT800 An unbiased approach towards this issue could not be anything but inclusive, and therefore leftist
@@atanaZion what ever
All I want to say is thank you for making this video people think that they know what they're talking about but in reality they don't.
You forgot “it made money so it’s amazing!”
The whole point of the discourse is to get pre teen nerds to associate the presence of black people, women, etc. as a red flag/scapegoat for bad movies.
Back then games decade ago used to be fun and discussion about gameplay. Now its about Hate this and that, im tired of it. Just let people make games and its also a business so they should know who their audience is.
What I’m sick of with modern media discourse or criticism is the purity testing of the people involved in creating said media. Such as oh this person has different political beliefs than me or this person is outspoken about some I don’t believe in or some such nonsense so this media will obviously be agenda driven even if they aren’t the one in charge of creating said media. This goes for games books comics music tv shows or movies. It’s truly brain-rot inducing.
Lol that's literally what's happening with the actress for Ghost of Tsushima 2.
@@Comicbroe405 Hell happened with her?
@@Comicbroe405yup I don’t blame her for blocking the keep you angry at everything crowd who only make videos to keep their audience angry and it also happened during and after the development of GoW Ragnarok as well.
@@joshuafrimpong244 She's got strong opinions on her Twitter about stuff that's considered "woke" so they think she's some crazy activist who's opinions will somehow affect the game despite literally fucking nothing is there to show for it. She also has a decent 10 year long career working on a few franchises like COD, Cyberpunk, Valorant. She also blocked many grifter type accs (cuz they would prolly send hate her way) & they're spinning it as her blocking ppl she doesn't agree with.
@@Comicbroe405 woooooow, so thats what we're doing here. How has the world come to this?
Oh boi I'm loving all the spiderman discussing media discourse first th3birdmen now colin😊
Thank you for the timestamps.
I do agree with most of what's said in this video. Although I do admittedly think some of the stuff mentioned, like the one from Spider-Man Far From Home, can still kind of fall under "nitpicking," mainly because I do think stuff like him taking his mask off in the car feels like a minor flaw in the movie's storytelling. There's no real solid defense for it for sure (aside from him just being frantic and not really thinking about it I suppose?), but I do think it being a commonly glossed over point in the movie that had very little attention drawn to it, is what makes it come off as somewhat "nitpicky," since whether or not it actively breaks the immersion in a story is what makes it become "subjective." Not really forming an argument here, just smth I noticed.
To be fair, criticism doesn't help creators improve our work. All it is is just people telling artists that they shouldn't make their art the way they want to and should only be allowed to make their art the way that somebody else says they should. The artist should be the one deciding whether or not their art is good because we're the ones doing all the work. Constantly telling us what to do doesn't help us, it just limits our capabilities because people want to hold us to constantly changing standards and rules that we have no say in. It's a hierarchal relationship that shouldn't exist with us artists on the bottom and the criticizers on top controlling what we can or can't do and not letting us have any creative freedom because they think they know what's best, they think they know what's good or bad and keeps us slaves to that black and white dichotomy.
Yeah all of what you said was false
I agree a bit though, I worry that "objective" reviewing is homogenizing art and is forcing artists to write in a certain way to be considered good. Like, for example, Colin says that three dimesional characters were interesting and I guess that is what he factors into writing being good. But why? Can character not be one note and still be interesting? Why do they need three dimensions when they can serve the purpose with just two or one, and possibly be more entertaining for doing so?
All critisms can be lobbied at any story, but so what? I don't think anyone can really agree on what makes good pacing. How good a character is seems entirely subjective. Some critique work for not being realistic or for breaking internal logic. But why should a work have to stick to realism and when is a work not breaking its own logic but adding to the logic?
@@channel45853 I completely agree.
@@assassin8636 No eivor, it really wasn't.
Can't think of a person who infamously can't take criticism and is worse for it can anyone give an example
Hey Colin, thoughts on @The3Birdman? Currently he’s on a crusade against the Gooners known as the media grifters and going to war with the grift
I don’t see the fridge thing as a nitpick, because it changes the story. Every time Peter isn’t immobilized by something heavier than a fridge, I have to ask, "How?" The fridge scene clearly showed that Peter’s strength caps at "fridge level."
Honestly, I very much envy this video. Sure. I was gonna show up to disagreement day on why you think far from home is bad. But as I thought about it I couldn't really think of Anything to defend it with? And honestly thank you so much. Colin you really enlighten me.
The main reason I don't like Batman is his personality...at least, the way it's depicted in today's media.
Back in the days of Batman: TAS; the character had compassion, restraint and actually showed sympathy towards some of the villains he fought against. Twenty-some years later and more current iterations depict him as more paranoid, egotistical, distant, obsessed with his so-called "mission" and doesn't believe anyone can change for the better.
Also, what you said about political brain rot is so on-point. I keep hearing and seeing people use the term "woke" so much that it comes off as white noise, at this point; especially since no one even USES the term anymore. Anybody who still DOES is (as you said) a complete moron
It's hard to say anything anymore, because we live in a world of terminally online zoomers, brainrot content, debby downers being unnecessarily hostile.
What's even crazier is that you're going to have people who don't even watch the video and they're assuming you're being mean when you're not.
There's also thoses people who say "i call everything woke because everything is woke!! Like a plague!!",not defending their "opinions" just saying what the other guy said basically
Exactly!! It’s a lazy scapegoat for people who cannot find actual criticism with the things they watch and play
i hate the fact that those people are my college friends
@@TheCapitalWanderer you should get some new friends
@@teamili7957 yeah, i should. i'll get some new friends at some point, thankfully my middle school and high school friends are better than them.
I completely unsubscribed from Endymion because all he ever said was “Woke this, woke that” in all of his videos and throws up his hands at the slightest hint of progressive themes like an optional lesbian kiss in Horizon Forbidden West. Saw a tweet that the guy was having a field day with Ghost of Yottei due to a female protagonist. Saying that Tsushima was built on masculinity. Talk about cope.
Gamer nerds thinking they are “masculine” is the most laughable shit in years. All of these guys would have gotten bullied by the actual jocks in school
@@dc7981
There's zero correlation between being a "jock" and masculinity. Wtf are you even saying lmao.
What a child like understanding about this concepts.
@@dc7981 not would have, they were bullied, if they wasn't, you wouldn't see them acting like a r word virgin online
16:43 every cop is not inherently a bad person but person who is a cop , shouldn’t be. The laws in which they’re required to enforce are bias, harmful, & or both to people of marginalized & poorer communities.
The cops are the ones who enforce the law… If they don’t want to enforce it poorly they won’t… Wtf was that argument💀
@@C0LIN. your lack of actual knowledge about the police is telling, hence me saying what i said in my other comment
@@UnoDinero95001 Ur lack of brain power is telling
Cases with police using the law against rich and influential people don't exist for you say this.
@@C0LIN.Colin, what the man is saying is that the police are forced to enforce laws that are harmful to those from marginalized communities. So even if every cop isn't evil or corrupt their institution is. Cops aren't there to protect and serve they're there to control "problem" populations to protect the richest people's assets. I mean dude, they started out as slave catchers.
16:11
“You die a criticizer of generalizing.”
“Or see yourself turn into a generalizer.”
I’m actually one of those who wanted to see more of Jin Sakai’s story but I don’t understand the hate for the new protag, maybe Jin may appear as a npc but still play a part in the story? While I don’t like radical leftist or grifters on that part, man people like Synthetic man go for the most insignificant things to hate on stuff and call it “woke”.
You are right about people hating others because they like something they don't
I once got labeled as a PlayStation fanboy for selecting Last of us 2 as most favourite game in a poll where they had cod mw2,witchers 3 and elden ring
That dude went as so far as saying TLOU2 being trash is factual and not a mere opinion despite me saying multiple times its my personal opinion and said some lame shit on why it sucks like saying its pacing is bad or abby is a terrible charector blah blah blah...... And when I pointed the things I like about it even saying I didn't find such problems.... He started saying that I am some dumbo for like TLOU 2 thats when I finally lost it and asked him if he hates the game or is he hating me...... I never got a reply to that to this day
I agree with you. I think what you’re saying, it should just be basic common sense to have.
Had an argument with my friend about why he thought Spider man 2 shouldn't have been at $70. He said the combat wasn't worth $70 and it was an exact copy of Miles Morales. I asked if he played the game and he said no. I asked him if he liked the game and said yeah. How do you like something you've never touched and base an opinion about it. That's like me having an opinion on having intercourse, or my baby cousin having an opinion on how I manage my finances.
The game isnt worth 70 because prices rising is a bad sign games have been 60 for years and i dont like the fact inflation is getting so bad thats changing
@@chandlerburse the reason why it's $70 isn't the games fault, but the fault of the outside world.
@@zage932 yes thats what i said
22:00 tbh im guilty of this with gow Ragnarok, i immediately hate any bad review of this or 2018 gow simply because the majority of them just dont like they are different than the original trilogy
I just hate it when companies change the race, sexuality, gender, or beliefs of a character only for political points. If the actor is a terrible person then I probably won't watch it since I don't want to support them, but in the media they should keep things the same unless it will make the story better. I use the word woke to refer to the companies who ruin stories with their agendas, and prioritize representation over a good product.
I appreciate you for that
And that's generally what everyone means by "woke" but people wanna straw man by saying that it's about trans or black people or women as main characters, when in all reality it's about people pushing their ideologies in favor of a good story
@@sin978that’s certainly NOT what most people mean when they say “woke”. It’s at best the minority.
The term “woke” doesn’t even work since the term implies that the politics themselves are the issue and not HOW they are implemented. The problem is the LACK of story, the NEGLECT of quality, not what the politics are. If the game were to be pushing far-right ideologies over the story it would still be bad (although probably worse since diversity is simply good for character design).
Calling it “pandering” or “preaching” would work much, much better to get the point across.
This. Just look at what happened with the Velma show.
@@sin978Strawmanning??
Come the f off,man, you can't be serious
Anti-woke don't complain about Tlou, Cod Cold War and so on so on simply because there are trans characters in game??
Didn't they hated tlou EVEN BEFORE THE RELEASE because they THOUGHT that Abby was trans?
Don't they always complain about black characters and lgbtq? Oh, fck off
if you are going to make an argument, you should do what he says and explain why, not skate around your reasoning, don't just say you are wrong, provide why
15:44 imagine looking like this and thinking you have any right to scrutinize anybody's appearence 💀
You gonna respond to Sheevtalks video on The Boys? And his response to your video on his second channel?
Two comments? Respect
Sheev Talks’ criticism on The Boys is quite valid though. He really put thoughts onto it, unlike Critical Drinker.
@@nont18411 nope. His criticism even tho it wasn't 🧠 💀 like drinker is still shit
@@nont18411 That’s because he actually watched the show but his criticisms weren’t that valid either. He even clickbait his audience by saying it’s an awful show yet he says he likes some things.
@@spider-manunknown9193 you can like things in something that's awful, how is that clickbait?
laid out PERFECTLY
amazing video
Agreed.
9:06 8ce jj fish stray is crazy 😭🙏
Im really baffled by how badly the whole ACAB thing even happened. Started over complacency in the force but obviously that is becoming less an issue. We still need a lot of work on our police but that doesn’t mean everyone is horrible yowza it was more meant to be about the infrastructure and not the individual themselves
I don't take people who use the word woke as an argument seriously. Unless the "wokeness" is actually ruining the plot then i would understand what they are talking about. But 99.9% of the time the word is just an excuse to say that they hate diversity without saying they hate diversity. I still to this day don't understand why people think because a game has something other than a straight white male it makes it a bad game.
People call it "plot armor" because it is a 'trope' and wants the protagonist to die while it 'advances' the purpose of storytelling.
Now, I agree that politics can ruin a story. There’s a difference between having a character that just happens to be black or female or gay, versus having a character that you purposefully made black or female or gay because you’re trying to push an agenda or fill some sort of quota.
Also
15:00
Wtf is this guy talking about ☠️☠️
What’s more crazy is that’s not even the worse thing sythenic man said,once he called a game woke because it had a biracial couple in it
I just hate it when companies change the race, sexuality, gender, or beliefs of a character only for political points. If the actor is a terrible person then I probably won't watch it since I don't want to support them, but in the media they should keep things the same unless it will make the story better. I don't complain about female characters for being female unless they were gender swapped. I don't like it when female characters are writen to be "feminist, girl bosses who can do anything" ie. Captain marvel. I use the word woke to refer to the companies who ruin stories with their agendas, and prioritize representation over a good product.
@@AndrewBrown-yf3hk chill bro😂, its not that deep🤓☝
That's Synthetic Man for ya. His opinions are, as his name suggests, Synthetic.
Can you list a single case where a character is purposefully made gay or black to push a agenda?
Yeah. It's very hit or miss if people actually understand why it's an issue when I point out how completely inconsistent Ant-Man is in the MCU.
You cannot tell me that he retains his mass when shrinking allowing him to punch at full force while tiny and then also have him grow in size to gain mass.
Either mass is retained or it isn't. You can't have it both ways unless you explain how that's possible.
But I usually either get good points but it doesn't matter or, stop thinking so hard about it and just enjoy the fun movie.
your videos are always relaxing with your cool guy voice