Exploring the Remedy Connected Universe

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • This video was created before the release of CrossfireX, and before the announcement of the Max Payne remakes and Alan Wake 2. If you're looking for some updated analysis, here's some follow up videos to check out!
    ○ Alan Wake: Full Story & Extended Lore Explained
    • Alan Wake: Full Story ...
    ○ Remedy: "YES! It's all connected!!!"
    • Remedy Connected Unive...
    ○ Max Payne Remakes and the Remedy Connected Universe
    • Max Payne Remakes and ...
    Where does CrossfireX fit into the Remedy Connected Universe?
    • Where does CrossfireX ...
    00:00:00 Section 1: Introduction
    00:01:43 Section 2: Death Rally
    00:03:51 Section 3.1: Max Payne - Story Recap
    00:09:09 Section 3.2: Max Payne - Analysis
    00:12:02 Section 4.1: Max Payne 2 - Introduction
    00:13:28 Section 4.2: Max Payne 2 - Story Recap
    00:18:29 Section 4.3: Max Payne 2 - Analysis
    00:25:28 Section 5: Max Payne - The Movie
    00:26:44 Section 6.1: Alan Wake - Introduction
    00:27:40 Section 6.2: Alan Wake - Bright Falls
    00:29:24 Section 6.3: Alan Wake - Introduction
    00:30:37 Section 6.4: Alan Wake - Story Recap
    00:44:28 Section 6.5: Alan Wake - Analysis
    01:00:32 Section 6.6: Alan Wake - Supplemental Materials
    01:04:58 Section 6.7: Alan Wake's American Nightmare
    01:09:01 Section 7.1: 2012 - Max Payne 3
    01:11:01 Section 7.2: 2012 - This House of Dreams
    01:13:20 Section 8.1: Mobile Games - Death Rally
    01:14:07 Section 8.2: Mobile Games - Agents of Storm
    01:14:48 Section 9.1: Quantum Break - Introduction
    01:18:38 Section 9.2: Quantum Break - Story Recap
    01:21:38 Section 9.3: Quantum Break - Analysis
    01:41:46 Section 10.1: Control - Introduction
    01:44:43 Section 10.2: Control - Story Recap
    02:00:02 Section 10.3: Control - The Foundation
    02:00:47 Section 10.4: Control - AWE and Beyond
    02:36:08 Section 11: What is Canon?
    02:38:56 Section 12: Leftovers
    Thanks to all who provided voice-over:
    Ikaros 10032:
    RUclips: / ikaros10032
    Gaming University:
    RUclips: / gaminguniversityuog
    Andrew Taylor:
    / @halbeardandrewtaylor
    Kranitoko:
    RUclips: / kranitoko
    Learn more:
    Remedy Mysteries:
    / index
    Alan Wake Prototype And Beta Footage:
    • Alan Wake - Original 2...
    How Alan Wake Was Rebuilt 3 Years Into Development:
    • How Alan Wake Was Rebu...
    Abandoned Alan Wake 2 Concept Demo:
    • 13 Minutes of Alan Wak...
    Morphology of the Folk Tale:
    monoskop.org/images/f/f3/Prop...
    The Remedy Story So Far:
    • Sam Lake: The Remedy s...
    Riverport Blackboard Easter Egg (Analysis):
    • Alan Wake Explained - ...
    Examining the Evolution of Gaming and Its Impact on Social, Cultural, and Political Perspectives:
    www.researchgate.net/profile/...
    Follow Hidden Machine:
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    #alanwake #controlremedy #maxpayne #quantumbreak
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Комментарии • 658

  • @coasterguy1000
    @coasterguy1000 2 года назад +320

    It brings a smol little tear to my eye to contrast how heartbroken Sam Lake sounded to admit that Alan Wake would have to be placed in the dark for the time being, to game awards 2021. God I love you everyone who works at Remedy and that magnificent bastard Sam Lake.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +38

      We're so glad he's been able to bring Alan Wake back!

    • @bengng5837
      @bengng5837 Год назад

      😮😮😅😅😮😅😮😅😅😅😊y😅😮😅😅😅😅😅😅😮😅😅aaS 2:27:22 😅😊🎞🎞😊Dad😅s4ssd😊

    • @zfahdjdkgk
      @zfahdjdkgk 6 месяцев назад +16

      Two years later, I'm comparing to Game Awards 2023, where Alan Wake 2 won major awards and Sam got to recreate a signature moment by dancing like a fool while the Old Gods played him on. Not a bad victory lap. His smile during the Herald of Darkness performance was so heart warming.

  • @dylancorley1663
    @dylancorley1663 Год назад +353

    In Control, as you approach the typewriter and you hear Alan Wake narrating what's happening... that moment gave me chills I'll never forget. "Chef's kiss" 😘👌

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +24

      Totally, that part was so exciting

    • @MiBrCo4177
      @MiBrCo4177 Год назад +13

      Damn spoilers haha but nice to see it's there. Now I gotta play both AW and C to experience it fully. Started AW the other month and got about 2hrs in and really enjoyed it. Time to finish it.

    • @datatsushi2016
      @datatsushi2016 Год назад +4

      cHeFz KisZ

    • @5000Seabass
      @5000Seabass 9 месяцев назад +15

      @@datatsushi2016bRaiN DaMAgEd.
      That’s you by the way.

    • @datatsushi2016
      @datatsushi2016 9 месяцев назад

      @@5000Seabass StAgE 4
      Is what i hope you'll get. Preferably in the pancreas ;) Less chance of recovery.

  • @lexradu
    @lexradu 9 месяцев назад +32

    1:05:37 I love how the more experienced he becomes, the more Alan resembles Ash Williams of Evil Dead in terms of personality, no longer as afraid of the entity, but more relaxed to the point he's cracking jokes and spitting one liners, becoming a Horror Comedic Writer, which in turn contrast with Mr Scratch becoming a twisted version of this funnier Alan Wake, mirroring Patrick Bateman of American Psycho.

  • @Kaden10
    @Kaden10 Год назад +69

    In my opinion over the years Alan has attempted multiple times to write his way out of the Dark place without hurting the balance between light and dark. Every time he has failed so far, he's been trying every scenario he could think of. So he thought back to episode he had written for Night Springs and decided to use that as a jumping off point, and this time it worked leading us into the upcoming Alan Wake 2.

    • @heroicmythos8002
      @heroicmythos8002 6 месяцев назад +5

      Fantastic comment. If you've finished AW2, then your point about balance is very relevant.

  • @gabiruman
    @gabiruman 2 года назад +56

    I honestly don't understand how this universe of games isn't more talked about, there is literally no other franchise or game developer that has ever set up such a deeply linked universe between games that are seemingly unrelated. This is an amazing video and a must see for fans of the series, I played all these games except for Quantum Break, and loved every minute of it.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +8

      I really think it has to do with how subtle some of the connections are. There’s a few blatant references, but at first glance it doesn’t seem as deeply connected as it really is. More and more people are catching on every day though!

    • @gabiruman
      @gabiruman 2 года назад +9

      @@HiddenMachineGaming True, but Control for example is a great, unique and recent game even with a PS5 version and you don't see many people talking about it. I wonder if it's just because Remedy are not the typical triple A pubishers.

  • @Vlakod
    @Vlakod 2 года назад +60

    Part where Dr.Darling "mocks" Alan is actually small shot from Darling's music masterpiece "Dyna-mite"

  • @darkcardking
    @darkcardking Год назад +7

    Note that 665 is also in Quantum Break. It a code number you need at one point. They also call it the neighbor of the beast in it.

  • @ReinBelmont
    @ReinBelmont Год назад +11

    I love how the FBC deals with the events in Control, it reminds me of how, in MIB, K tells J that the world is pretty much always in danger, as if world ending events are constant but for them it's just another day.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +2

      I just rewatched the MIB trilogy, I totally had a similar impression

  • @UnbeknownJuls
    @UnbeknownJuls 2 года назад +58

    I loved this

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +11

      Thank you! Good catch!

    • @darthXreven
      @darthXreven Год назад +11

      i think it's Sam Lake letting go of Max Payne but that's a damn good memory or just a good catch if you've been playing the game recently lol
      i remember the scenes of the dog just not the dogs name lol

  • @NadiraBarIdan
    @NadiraBarIdan 7 месяцев назад +5

    After playing Alan Wake 2, this video is mind blowing.

  • @Aarkwrite
    @Aarkwrite Год назад +4

    Late Goodbye was such a bop. Waxing nostalgic.

  • @Sm0k3turt
    @Sm0k3turt 2 года назад +52

    I don’t think Alan actually wrote control and max Payne literally. But I do like the idea that he influences things beyond himself. It’s a cool tie in to every other game.

    • @RK-ly6nw
      @RK-ly6nw 2 года назад +15

      he really didn't write the entire story of Control (perhaps even Max Payne), since the FBC existed even before Alan Wake was born. He'd be way too powerful if he can bring everything he writes to reality :p

  • @S.Karmamusic
    @S.Karmamusic Год назад +14

    I don’t understand people that can do 3 hour long video on anything. Salute your dedication. I’m gonna make sure I watch the entire thing.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I also released it in smaller chunks here on the channel as a ten part series that might be easier to get through.

  • @ThePreciseClimber
    @ThePreciseClimber Год назад +47

    Regarding the idea of Alan creating Jesse and the FBC and that cheapening her journey...
    I think people might be forgetting a certain page from American Nightmare:
    ?Page 14: Everything Is as Real as Everything Else
    This act of creation is exhilarating and frightening. Subtext and symbols loom, eager to take effect. Causality and consequence become domino chains that stretch into infinity. The more fundamental the change, the more unpredictable the variables become; reality is too complex to control completely. Ordinary questions become meaningless.
    "Who created who?"
    "What is really real?"
    Everything is as real as everything else. You learn to let go of the things you can't control and go with the flow, or go insane."

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +6

      Yes! I was thinking of this passage while working on this video, but couldn't quite remember where it was from and was unable to pull it up.

    • @cgkase6210
      @cgkase6210 Год назад +3

      Personally I think they were setting up with it back when they first came up with Ordinary, with the mysterious agents with badges with AWE on them, which would develop into a distinction of Altered World Event, implying them collecting the shoeboxes with Tom's things due to being remnants of the Bright Falls AWE

    • @Shadowofmyself100
      @Shadowofmyself100 10 месяцев назад +4

      Actually Alan merely created the conflict for Jesse by creating the Hiss. It’s never specifically implied he “created” her or the FBC, but he did say that a hero needs a conflict

  • @Babybayou
    @Babybayou 2 года назад +7

    This is your not average long analysis vide. Before you skip it remember this guy is breaking down 3 games plus DLC. GREAT WORK 👌🏽

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +2

      Thank you! We’re covering nearly 25 years worth of games here, hard to make it much shorter!

    • @Babybayou
      @Babybayou 2 года назад +1

      @@HiddenMachineGaming I just saw all my typos lol never using my iPad to comment again. Seriously tho, great video I really enjoyed it.

  • @KaiInMotion
    @KaiInMotion Год назад +92

    Considering just how long Alan has been in the dark place it's gonna be really embarassing if he comes back without a finished manuscript lmao. I know he's fighting for his life in a hell dimension or whatever but Jesse saved the entire world\worlds and still had time to get a really good new government job, AND cover for Ahti while he was on vacation. If Alan hasn't finished a book by now he might never live it down.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +36

      Maybe he’ll just start a podcast instead

    • @nicoelmito
      @nicoelmito 7 месяцев назад +5

      That’s how art works

    • @andydbedford
      @andydbedford 2 месяца назад +2

      There’s no time n the dark place, it doesn’t exist.

  • @AvidGaymer42
    @AvidGaymer42 2 года назад +41

    Wait what? Only 711 Subscribers and 4.4k views as of writing? The absolute density and quality of the research and content here is insane!
    Hidden Machine team, you deserve so many more subscribers than just the hundreds. Awesome!

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +4

      Thank you! We're trying hard to grow the channel!

    • @Grummar
      @Grummar Год назад +1

      Well, it's called HIDDEN machine for a reason I guess, that said, subscribed!

    • @Hannibal-Rx
      @Hannibal-Rx 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@HiddenMachineGamingseeing this comment a year later & you’re at nearly 7k subscribers 🎉

  • @adityamoghe43
    @adityamoghe43 2 года назад +93

    This was truly a treat. Being a long term fan of Alan Wake and everything related to it, and of course Remedy, I loved every minute of this video.
    I thought I knew almost everything related to the lore of Alan Wake, but it was genuinely happy discovering some new things.
    You sir, went above and beyond with this wonderfully crafted piece of work and I salute you for it. I wish this video gets hundreds of thousands of views. I'll be sure to share it with as many people as I can.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +9

      Thank you, that really means a lot! To be honest, there's still a lot more that I didn't cover here, but I had to set some kind of limit for the piece.

    • @NeoMoonSevin
      @NeoMoonSevin Год назад +3

      Yeah a very good doco makers over there at gaming university the Goto spot for Remedy verse education aswell as other games with scary motives behind there storylines

    • @mikedrop4421
      @mikedrop4421 Год назад

      Here here!

  • @WarlordRising
    @WarlordRising Год назад +5

    Alan Wake is at the center of it all. Remedy playfully reminding the audience that each world created is born from the mind of the writer.

  • @stapuft
    @stapuft 2 года назад +25

    i feel alans powers are kind of like "the daevite book" SCP, as in, he writes things, and they become real, but, ever so slightly different from what he wrote, also, like that same SCP.
    he wrote about "alex casey" and it became "max payne", he wrote "night springs" and got trapped in "cauldron lake", he writes about the "federal bureau of night springs" and creates the "federal bureau of control"

    • @classiccustoms2010
      @classiccustoms2010 Год назад +5

      The references to Alan Wake brought up in the section discussing Control (the documents describing some objects from Alan Wake or its universe) seem a lot like how you'd write out a description of an SCP from what I recall, further adding onto the SCP "aura" of this universe/multiverse.

    • @tasvaful
      @tasvaful Год назад +1

      The events that Alan causes all happen near Cauldron Lake and Brightfalls, not beyond that. Also the FBC was created in the 50’s or earlier, decades before the Brightfalls AWE

    • @stapuft
      @stapuft Год назад +2

      @@tasvaful who is to say that he cant retroactively create things? ie he writes about a fully grown man, and one is there, meaning his abilities rewrote time, to make that person get born, instead of just "magically appearing".

    • @stapuft
      @stapuft Год назад

      @@tasvaful i tried to post both halvs of that as one comment but yt kept deleting it for some reason, hopefully you see both halves now.......damnit its gone.....

    • @stapuft
      @stapuft Год назад +1

      @@tasvaful like he writes about something that has been around for over five decades, and that makes time rewrite itself to make what he wrote, reality.

  • @ClapperDan
    @ClapperDan 6 месяцев назад +2

    The bit about the whiteboard is interesting because an Alan Wake 2, with every new part of Alan's gameplay in which he meet the sheriff in a new destination, The contents of the whiteboard doesn't change, and more notes gets added despite the sheriff saying that he forgets things similar to Alan.

  • @HiddenMachineGaming
    @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +29

    00:00:00 Section 1: Introduction
    00:01:43 Section 2: Death Rally
    00:03:51 Section 3.1: Max Payne - Story Recap
    00:09:09 Section 3.2: Max Payne - Analysis
    00:12:02 Section 4.1: Max Payne 2 - Introduction
    00:13:28 Section 4.2: Max Payne 2 - Story Recap
    00:18:29 Section 4.3: Max Payne 2 - Analysis
    00:25:28 Section 5: Max Payne - The Movie
    00:26:44 Section 6.1: Alan Wake - Introduction
    00:27:40 Section 6.2: Alan Wake - Bright Falls
    00:29:24 Section 6.3: Alan Wake - Introduction
    00:30:37 Section 6.4: Alan Wake - Story Recap
    00:44:28 Section 6.5: Alan Wake - Analysis
    01:00:32 Section 6.6: Alan Wake - Supplemental Materials
    01:04:58 Section 6.7: Alan Wake's American Nightmare
    01:09:01 Section 7.1: 2012 - Max Payne 3
    01:11:01 Section 7.2: 2012 - This House of Dreams
    01:13:20 Section 8.1: Mobile Games - Death Rally
    01:14:07 Section 8.2: Mobile Games - Agents of Storm
    01:14:48 Section 9.1: Quantum Break - Introduction
    01:18:38 Section 9.2: Quantum Break - Story Recap
    01:21:38 Section 9.3: Quantum Break - Analysis
    01:41:46 Section 10.1: Control - Introduction
    01:44:43 Section 10.2: Control - Story Recap
    02:00:02 Section 10.3: Control - The Foundation
    02:00:47 Section 10.4: Control - AWE and Beyond
    02:36:08 Section 11: What is Canon?
    02:38:56 Section 12: Leftovers
    Thanks to all who provided voice-over:
    Ikaros 10032:
    RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Ikaros10032
    Gaming University:
    RUclips: ruclips.net/user/GamingUniversityUoG
    Andrew Taylor:
    Facebook: facebook.com/halbeardofficial
    Instagram: instagram.com/halbeardo/
    Kranitoko:
    RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Kranitoko
    Follow Hidden Machine:
    Instagram: instagram.com/hiddenmachinegaming
    Twitter: twitter.com/machinehidden
    Learn more:
    Remedy Mysteries:
    www.reddit.com/r/RemedyMysteries/wiki/index
    Alan Wake Prototype And Beta Footage:
    ruclips.net/video/IJAxpwqtQmw/видео.html
    How Alan Wake Was Rebuilt 3 Years Into Development:
    ruclips.net/video/AoHkGDu0_Hw/видео.html
    Abandoned Alan Wake 2 Concept Demo:
    ruclips.net/video/OQRUx-w6t4s/видео.html
    Morphology of the Folk Tale:
    monoskop.org/images/f/f3/Propp_Vladimir_Morphology_of_the_Folktale_2nd_ed.pdf
    The Remedy Story So Far:
    ruclips.net/video/SlRltJ289y8/видео.html
    Riverport Blackboard Easter Egg (Analysis):
    ruclips.net/video/hehcTwATxSk/видео.html
    Examining the Evolution of Gaming and Its Impact on Social, Cultural, and Political Perspectives:
    www.researchgate.net/profile/Marc-Ouellette-2/publication/327546416_Examining_the_Evolution_of_Gaming_and_Its_Impact_on_Social_Cultural_and_Political_Perspectives_A_volume_in_the_Advances_in_Human_and_Social_Aspects_of_Technology_AHSAT_Book_Series/links/5b956bef299bf1473933bad2/Examining-the-Evolution-of-Gaming-and-Its-Impact-on-Social-Cultural-and-Political-Perspectives-A-volume-in-the-Advances-in-Human-and-Social-Aspects-of-Technology-AHSAT-Book-Series.pdf

  • @WilliamAmbervein
    @WilliamAmbervein 8 месяцев назад +4

    Seeing all of the blatant connections to Quantum Break and real world things in Alan Wake 2 is insane

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  8 месяцев назад +4

      Yes, it's like they found the perfect legal loopholes to include the games

  • @ArcaneEther
    @ArcaneEther Год назад +8

    One extra thing about Alan's power is that he cannot write Deus Ex Machina's to solve problems.
    His stories have to make logical, coherent sense or they don't become reality. No cheap endings allowed.

  • @kratosdaddy
    @kratosdaddy 2 года назад +36

    Fantastic work! This is the best analysis on the RCU I’ve seen. Hope the algorithm finds you soon and you’ll get more exposure. Keep up the great work. And the fantastic content

  • @shesFibi
    @shesFibi Год назад +7

    Great Video! I became a Control, Alan Wake and ultimately Remedy through Poets of the Fall and since then everytime I see a new connection I get so unbelievably happy! This video did that a lot for me. Thank you so much for it!

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +1

      So happy to hear that! Can’t wait to make a follow up after Alan Wake 2!

  • @stevejobs3895
    @stevejobs3895 5 месяцев назад +2

    I watched this entire video front to back and not one ad played, and for the first time in my life I am saddened by that....

  • @Icepick614
    @Icepick614 Год назад +3

    Great video made only better by the fact that Alan Wake 2 was announced the following month after it was published. Man's ahead of the curve

  • @GreatgoatonFire
    @GreatgoatonFire Год назад +5

    I've been thinking a bit about this and if Max Payne exists in the Remedy verse then he is a parautilitarian with some pretty messed up powers.
    First is Bullet Time, slowing time or enhancing his perception. Might not seem that dark right, but think about this. How does he recharge that power?
    By killing people, head shots being extra effective.
    Then we have his body. Ever think about how we heal in Max Payne? By eating a rave's worth of pills. There is no way something like that would be able to fix a close range blast from a shotgun...
    and yet, Max is fine. I think he has some kind of power linking his perception of his body, specifically, pain to the state of his physical health. Enough trauma can overwhelm Max' resistance, killing or incapacitating him.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +1

      I didn’t cover this idea in the video, but I’ve had very similar thoughts since reflecting on all of the games. It’s disturbing, but it totally fits into the Remedy universe.

    • @GreatgoatonFire
      @GreatgoatonFire Год назад

      @@HiddenMachineGaming Ok hey, that's really cool.
      Another thing to think about re Max Payne and the FBC: They are both located in New York, a single cop mowing down hundrers of criminals over a single night would surely grab the FBC's attention right, especially in their backyard.
      Maybe the Inner Circle or mr Woden were able to keep Max from getting stanched up by the FBC?
      Hell consider that it was Woden that started Max's journey by sending those files to the DA. And it was only after Max's family were attacked that we see him use Bullet Time. Now sure maybe that was something he was able to do before but still.
      Max Payne's story in the wider Remedyverse has even more strange and dark implications than what we got in his games.

  • @jack_rabbit
    @jack_rabbit Год назад +9

    sam lake is the single greatest writer working in video games, everything he writes is shoulder to should w dan houser's very best work.

  • @TheReZisTLust
    @TheReZisTLust Год назад +5

    Having heard of Alan's games years ago it was an immediate click when I played Control and it was oddly dark in the main game. Such a nice touch and made me want to look for more. Cant wait for a sequel

  • @Foxtrop13
    @Foxtrop13 2 года назад +10

    Nice video man, thats a full exploration, I hope it gets more views in the future, is very good to put things in another context

  • @_chemicalbeat_
    @_chemicalbeat_ 2 года назад +7

    Love this! Excellent video and thorough analysis of the Remedy Connected Universe. Love your content, this deserves many more views! Hopefully many more discover this great video and your amazing channel. Keep up the great work! 👍

  • @Brandon_Moves_You
    @Brandon_Moves_You 8 месяцев назад +1

    The effort and thoroughness of this project is staggering. You've done an amazing job. Thanks for the links and additional context. You've really outdone yourself.

  • @juutuubnoob
    @juutuubnoob Год назад +3

    This video should have like 1 million+ views. This was so well put together and well made. Keep up the good work!

  • @MCSaeid
    @MCSaeid 2 года назад +15

    This is absolutely brilliant. Very, very well done. Consider me a fan.

  • @Kaden10
    @Kaden10 Год назад +1

    To summarize the coffee thermos: "Damn good cup of coffee."

  • @spoofertricks
    @spoofertricks 2 года назад +5

    Vocal recording sounds great !

  • @megciftci9187
    @megciftci9187 8 месяцев назад +1

    This was an incredible video, I can only imagine how much work you put into it. Well done and thank you!

  • @starlight137yt
    @starlight137yt 2 года назад +4

    So much work. I'm so impressed by this video.

  • @MJJMarkos
    @MJJMarkos Год назад +2

    Awesome video. I have just finished Control and I was looking for these connections. Ty!!

  • @lukasaurelius4462
    @lukasaurelius4462 6 месяцев назад +1

    I watched this today, a few hours into Alan Wake II. The amount of content that is suddenly thrown into light is incredible, thank you, 2 years after you published this, for the amount of research and care you put into this video

  • @linktothelight
    @linktothelight 2 года назад +6

    Loving the Alan Wake passion man! Awesome video! Subbed and looking forward to seeing more of your videos.

  • @bentdog00
    @bentdog00 2 года назад +7

    Truly amazing video, this guy needs more subs.

  • @Loginv
    @Loginv Год назад +1

    I watched almost the whole thing in one sitting. Help.
    Great video btw! Thank you so much! Made it way easier to understand then running through and playing all the games and getting the comics and the books and the ect. ect.

  • @famulan6594
    @famulan6594 Год назад +1

    This was a really long and good one I appreciate you

  • @thekingofstillwater5890
    @thekingofstillwater5890 Год назад +5

    I've only just dipped into the Remedyverse with Alan Wake last year and just recently Control and I've fallen quite in love with it. The concept of games connected in a shared timeline or universe is one I've not seen before, say for Valve and their Half-Life universe (but I don't know anything other than Aperture Science being a competitor to Black Mesa.) I hope that they will one day acquire the rights to Quantum Break (though that's wishful thinking) and make Max Payne more connected rather than having stand-ins. I also hope Alan Wake 2 will free the writer from his 10 year solitary confinement. Something I also wanna add is what I love about Control, which is how much it feels like a triple A SCP game; I had grown up with them in the 2000s - 2010s and they were something id constantly delve into. I'm also a big eldrich horror fan, which both are filled with.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +4

      I have a very strong suspicion that Max Payne is being brought back into the fold. After this video was released, Remedy put out their campaign for CrossfireX. That game contained a hidden room that included messages scrawled all over a wall saying things like “it’s all connected” and “Payne”. Shortly after that, they announced that they would be remaking Max Payne 1 and 2. With parts of Alan Wake 2 taking place in NYC, I think there’s great potential for more explicit crossovers beyond the stand ins.

  • @tomleb.991
    @tomleb.991 2 года назад +5

    Awesome! Liked and subscribed. Great content! Keep it up!!

  • @MrGermanletsplayerxD
    @MrGermanletsplayerxD 6 месяцев назад +1

    Its so crazy to see this Video being so often spot on. Its almost creepy how your asumptions turned out right. Iam looking forward on your video updating all stories and connections. You have my sub for sure

  • @novelmartinez6154
    @novelmartinez6154 Год назад +1

    It was great to watch and very interesting. Great work! Thank you.

  • @a_man_of_clay4080
    @a_man_of_clay4080 Год назад +1

    Dude...what an underrated and underappreciated gem.
    Both remedy, and the video you have made.
    If I could sub harder I'd break my phone screen.

  • @caoimhinmccann4449
    @caoimhinmccann4449 Год назад +1

    Amazing video, extremly well researched and put together. A little on the short side hopefully the next one's longer.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +2

      Many thanks. Honestly, once Alan Wake 2 drops I know I’ll be making a whopper of a follow up

    • @caoimhinmccann4449
      @caoimhinmccann4449 Год назад

      @@HiddenMachineGaming Can't wait for it.

  • @Qwedgeonline
    @Qwedgeonline Год назад

    This video was super neat to watch. It was packed full of information but I want more!

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +1

      So glad you enjoyed it! I just posted a new video some Alan Wake II theories that you might also like!

  • @RavelLopez
    @RavelLopez Год назад +3

    Awesome video. Watching this after Remedy officially announce Alan Wake 2 and Remedy Made/Rockstar funded Max Payne 1+2 remakes makes me even more excited

  • @Pig64
    @Pig64 2 года назад +1

    such a underrated channel, what a masterpiece video!

  • @djAstraim
    @djAstraim Год назад

    Amazing work!

  • @TheSphereHunter
    @TheSphereHunter Год назад +1

    Fantastic video!

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I’ve really enjoyed some of your videos as well, super informative and entertaining!

  • @soaring_man
    @soaring_man Год назад

    Such an amazing job you did here! Instant subscribe.

  • @henrysarson7417
    @henrysarson7417 Год назад

    this video is amazing thank you for pieceing it all together in a video form, I was looking for this exact vid months ago but didnt find it since I was just searching for control lore specifically

  • @jaff07
    @jaff07 Год назад +3

    Well done, and appreciated. There are still so much to see, but I hope Remedy in the near future they will give us clearer views of the lore and stories. I played all except MP.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +2

      Thank you! Max Payne still holds up really well, hope you get a chance to check it out!

  • @augustopaixao8911
    @augustopaixao8911 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great work man. I watched the whole video.

  • @laujimmy9282
    @laujimmy9282 8 месяцев назад +3

    Wow didn't realise Dore was from quantum break. That's so cool

  • @Neko123Uchiha
    @Neko123Uchiha 2 года назад +18

    Great video! Before summer this year I never really watched or played any Remedy game... but after playing Control a few months back I just had to dig deeper! All of them are great in their own right. But so much stuff connecting all of the games makes this universe even more interesting. Remedy sure is consistent with their themes, laying ground work and hints pretty early. And even bringing lots of actors from previous games back every time. This video is a really good summary of most of those things and really, big props to you for making this! :D I somehow jumped on the Remedy hype train at the right time. Looking forward to the next games (besides Project Condor), probably either Alan Wake 2 or Control 2... or a connecting game. There are way too many open questions that I need some answers to! :D

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! It’s definitely an exciting time to be a Remedy fan

  • @chiffmonkey
    @chiffmonkey Год назад +4

    40:27 In interview, Marko Saaresto has said that one interpretation of the name Poets of the Fall is "architects of destruction".
    41:51 This concept is the same as that of Poets of the Fall - Dreaming Wide Awake, same album as War featured in Alan Wake.
    The lyrics of Late Goodbye come to life literally in the film Bright Falls.
    1:31:57 At the time, Sam Lake stated in a tweet that the two characters are Alex Casey and Saga Anderson - a name you may now be familiar with.
    To really understand why canonicity is meaningless for the connected universe, you need to come at the Monomyth concept with a fresh mind. People do not consciously copy it. It is unconsciously replicated through the personification of archetypes derived from the collective unconscious (see the various whiteboards in Control talking about the theories of Carl Jung). Excalibur becomes the Service Weapon while still being the same object, it's just the framing of the times that has changed. The fundamental nature of altered items is the spirit of the thing. Alex Casey IS Max Payne in a way that matters more than copyright or canonicity - spirit. And as for Jung, there's a whole rabbit hole there for Poets of the Fall.

  • @HiddenMachineGaming
    @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +20

    This video was created before the release of CrossfireX, and before the announcement of the Max Payne remakes and Alan Wake 2. If you're looking for some updated analysis, here's some follow up videos to check out!
    ○ Alan Wake: Full Story & Extended Lore Explained
    ruclips.net/video/lF6j81lVyCc/видео.html
    ○ Remedy: "YES! It's all connected!!!"
    ruclips.net/video/l-bxkkWrrGw/видео.html
    ○ Max Payne Remakes and the Remedy Connected Universe
    ruclips.net/video/yak3nAEBvDI/видео.html
    ○ Where does CrossfireX fit into the Remedy Connected Universe?
    ruclips.net/video/2LP1xQg9k8o/видео.html

    • @NeoMoonSevin
      @NeoMoonSevin 10 месяцев назад

      What max Payne remakes I never heard of that on Yt nobody mentioned it not even remedy or Rockstar

    • @LordMarlle
      @LordMarlle 8 месяцев назад

      Max Payne, Quantum Break and especially CrossfireX is NOT part of the Remedy Connected Universe

  • @Valfara770
    @Valfara770 5 месяцев назад

    This is a very fascinating watch after Alan Wake 2 came out! :) I love how you were dead right on some things like Mr. Door and the 665 also cropped up :D

  • @matthewlegg9686
    @matthewlegg9686 Год назад

    Great video! I have enjoyed every one of these games (even Quantum Break) and hearing of even more connections than I found playing the games was fantastic. Thank you

  • @the1HLT
    @the1HLT Год назад

    Ill never get tired of Remedy lore, so thank you for making this behemoth of video!

  • @sarcasticsatan7335
    @sarcasticsatan7335 Год назад +42

    I like the idea that Alan is this hidden force, subtlety tweeting reality to help Jessie instead of him just creating Jessie, Dylan, Polaris, the hiss, the bored and everything else because that really does just feel like a slap in the face

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +5

      Totally. I think that the next few games will help clarify the whole situation a lot more.

    • @mountaindewgaming2351
      @mountaindewgaming2351 Год назад +9

      Well the art book almost explicitly states alan wakes powers are limited to nudge things that already exist and that alan didn’t write it in the awe section

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +7

      @@mountaindewgaming2351 true, but I still think the specifics are a bit murky. Some scenes suggest to me that Alan wrote the Hiss chant. That doesn't mean he created the Hiss, but maybe he gave them the words they used to grow stronger? It's hard to say.

    • @mateohodge6998
      @mateohodge6998 Год назад +2

      @@HiddenMachineGaming i think it's just another Easter egg because their chant doesn't mean anything they could be saying anything and it would have the same effect as long as it resonates
      Edit: lmao I just got too the part of the video where you said the same thing

    • @Aarkwrite
      @Aarkwrite Год назад

      I was gonna ask if you meant tweaking reality but tweeting reality is so much more of the moment that it fits

  • @weirdlyhungry
    @weirdlyhungry 8 месяцев назад +1

    Here after one year to say you were ABSOLUTELY ON THE MONEY about Initiation, goddamn

  • @richizzle39
    @richizzle39 4 месяца назад +1

    After playing Alan Wake 2 and watching the cutscene between Tom and Alan again (in both) they play out so similarly it makes me think Zane is actually scratch.

  • @Sm0k3turt
    @Sm0k3turt 2 года назад +9

    So hype to see what they do with this universe in the future.

  • @splayzer
    @splayzer 8 месяцев назад

    Fantastic breakdown! Im about to start the AW2 and was searching for a recap, this one helped me understand stuff even from the first game and the FBC connections. glad I found this video! 👍

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks! I know it’s a lot of info, but there’s an Alan Wake specific followup video here as well if you ever want more! Enjoy the game!

    • @splayzer
      @splayzer 8 месяцев назад

      @@HiddenMachineGaming Indeed, its a lot of info to digest, but the method/format you've chosen was very clear and helped a lot, I watched it all in one sitting, for sure i will come back after I finished the game for a post-breakdown, coz I know there will be lots of subjective interpretations! cheers mate!

  • @gu9871
    @gu9871 Год назад +1

    "Outstanding" what a masterpiece...on my 3rd go...been listening to this like an audiobook hahaha, much appreciated🤙🏾 sub most def

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад

      Many thanks! Can't wait to build on this when Alan Wake II arrives!

  • @Kranitoko
    @Kranitoko 2 года назад +9

    Seriously fantastic work, glad this seems to be getting the attention it deserves ☺️

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +4

      Thank you! Really glad you were able to be a part of it.

    • @Kranitoko
      @Kranitoko 2 года назад +2

      @@HiddenMachineGaming glad to be a part of it too ☺️ thanks for reaching out!

  • @iwant2mcdie157
    @iwant2mcdie157 2 года назад +3

    Watching this now with the knowledge we’re getting max payne 1 & 2 remakes in the works by remedy, being bankrolled by rockstar, can only give me hope for further remedy-verse connections

  • @IcedSynergy
    @IcedSynergy Год назад +1

    God I forgot how much the intro of max Payne 1 scared me as a kid. It was the first M rated game I ever played and made think max Payne was a horror franchise till trailers for mp3 came out!

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад

      There’s definitely some horror vibes in those first two games!

  • @klokinstein
    @klokinstein Год назад

    Amazing video! Very well scripted. I loved every part of it! Alan Wake is the best! I’m so excited for the sequel!

  • @skycr2t-o
    @skycr2t-o 2 года назад +3

    super underrated video. Just finished control and this video really helped

    • @skycr2t-o
      @skycr2t-o 2 года назад

      btw u had 1 hit kill on on control

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад

      Thank you!

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад

      lol it was my third time playing and I just needed to capture footage, i had all the difficult modifiers on

  • @isaabdullahi9097
    @isaabdullahi9097 Год назад

    Great video. You deserve more subs, bro. Good luck

  • @uhc5371
    @uhc5371 17 дней назад

    This guy time traveled and played Alan wake 2 in 2019, unbelievable spot on

  • @TheVentrexian
    @TheVentrexian 2 года назад +5

    Remedy should go full circle and make an Alex Casey video game. Actually spiritual successor to max, it could be the open world game they have been to wanting to make. Something like GTA with remedy writing.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +1

      That would be so cool

    • @TheVentrexian
      @TheVentrexian 2 года назад

      @@HiddenMachineGaming right? I'd honestly take a linear casey game as well lol and awesome recap dude I'm pretty new to the remedy verse myself kinda just stumbled into it not knowing the games were connected. The multiplayer control game is what I'm looking forward to next besides wake 2, I imagine it's something like destiny set in the oldest house.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  2 года назад +1

      @@TheVentrexian definitely, really excited to see what Remedy does with multiplayer. I didn't really mention it in the video, but CrossfireX is releasing on February 10th. It's not technically connected to the other Remedy games, but Remedy developed the single player campaign for the game. It'll be their first FPS title!

    • @TheVentrexian
      @TheVentrexian 2 года назад

      @@HiddenMachineGaming oh yea I'm looking forward to it for sure, I'd like to see if it's at all connected to the verse at large.

  • @wingsreport9274
    @wingsreport9274 2 года назад +5

    Amazing work good sir

  • @Tocy777isback0414
    @Tocy777isback0414 5 месяцев назад +1

    2:47:58 and now we know who are the cult of the tree :D amazing that such small details are hidden years before the next game's release (in this case AW2)

  • @maxmfpayne
    @maxmfpayne Год назад +1

    This might be one of my favorite videos ever, so in depth. A little biased though, because although I haven't played Alan Wake fully (don't worry I intend to soon) I'm an absolutely massive Max Payne fan and this is just... Beautiful.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much! There is a lot of shared DNA between Max Payne and Alan Wake, two great game series.

    • @maxmfpayne
      @maxmfpayne Год назад

      @@HiddenMachineGaming I cannot wait to play Alan Wake so I can find and take in every little connection between the two. Are you excited for the Max Payne remakes? We might even get some stuff referencing Alan Wake bringing everything full circle.

  • @martin518441
    @martin518441 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wow your speculation on hatch/door was spot on. Now we have to wait for control 2

  • @Ha1frican
    @Ha1frican 6 месяцев назад +1

    1:24:32 It very interesting to hear this since I felt the exact opposite. I played Quantum Break first and really liked it and then played Alan Wake and Control right after where I had a really hard time understanding what was going on. It wasn’t until looking up lore videos that I enjoyed Alan Wake really at all. Fortunately it feels like Alan Wake 2 got the balance a lot better and also makes it clear how important things like the manuscript are to listen to

  • @xLaxCroixBoix
    @xLaxCroixBoix Месяц назад

    You have no idea how loud I screamed when Ahti the Janitor showed up in Alan Wake 2. All the other FBC Easter Eggs are cool and all but Ahti is easily my favorite character from Control. I can’t wait to see how they will continue to entangle their properties together. Really wish they had full rights to the Quantum Break property because when I first started Control I was like “oh yeah what happened in Quantum Break was definitely an AWE.”
    Also sad Lance Reddick wasn’t able to be Mr. Door since that was obviously a play on his character from QB.

  • @fortitude_ra_kolahal
    @fortitude_ra_kolahal Год назад +1

    Absolute quality content........ I recently completed Control ( and its DLC ) and being a long time Remedy fan this video was such a watch... (Completed in one sitting ).... Hopefully Remedy well delivers Alan Wake 2 just like all their games......

  • @Deekman
    @Deekman 8 месяцев назад

    Getting caught up before AW2 thanks so much for a clear video that goes over EVERYTHING. Fantastic

  • @ICountFrom0
    @ICountFrom0 4 месяца назад

    Of note, "altered world event" and "Alan wake expansion" is one of my favorites.

  • @Agentlefox
    @Agentlefox 7 месяцев назад

    I will always love how involved San lake is creatively and lorewise haha

  • @djAstraim
    @djAstraim Год назад +2

    1:30:00 and so on... the "AW trailer" inside Quaantum Break. It´s amazing how consistent Remedy is. The "many faces" concept is present in the Alan Wake 2 Trailer.

    • @HiddenMachineGaming
      @HiddenMachineGaming  Год назад +1

      It’ll be fun to compare that QB trailer to the full game

    • @djAstraim
      @djAstraim Год назад

      @@HiddenMachineGaming Maybe trailer to trailer as we wait for the full game? :D

    • @djAstraim
      @djAstraim Год назад

      @@HiddenMachineGaming watching Raycevick´s video on Control, I notice something. The phone in the old house, is the one ringin in Alan Wake 2´s trailer!. That´s why it sounded out of place. Was not part of the Alan Wake 1 game, was part of Control!!

  • @atrixtussand2369
    @atrixtussand2369 7 месяцев назад

    I swear the whole Remedy interconnected universes sound like one big unique take on SCP Foundation series

  • @ASHxFireFly
    @ASHxFireFly 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wow I really never got into Alan Wake but the second one has blown me away and I appreciate it so much more after listening to this video.. its truly remarkable

  • @atrixtussand2369
    @atrixtussand2369 7 месяцев назад

    I cant believe that i played death rally when it came out and i had no idea that Remedy made it. I watch this video and all i see is Remedy style is in state of constant slow evolution and adaptation and i love their slow but sure build ups and how they keeping the pace without detriments to the quality of the final product.
    (Max Payne theme music play in background)
    "You see Remedy and their Alan Wake 2 and smile...a warm fuzzy smile of inner joy. Than, you turn around and se Bethesda....and... your face takes to smile as well...but...it is a sour and bitter smile, like...like you gulped down a whole glass of lemon and lime juice. And all you have now is bitter smile and regret that follows you. And will follow you....for a long time to come."

  • @gamingastronomer1307
    @gamingastronomer1307 2 месяца назад

    WOWW!!! I mean WOWWW!! Great job @HiddenMachineGaming !! I am definitely way way more intrigued. This is perhaps the most complicated and twisted interesting gaming lore I have ever come across!!!!

  • @NeoMoonSevin
    @NeoMoonSevin 2 года назад +4

    I think Thomas Zane switched places with Alan wake which is why he's trapped in the eldest house wasn't until FBC apprehended Alice wake that Alan spiritual essence was captured in the eldest house Thomas Zane now is able to switch places with Alan wake and he's been re writing reality to make up his mistake making dark version of his late wife bareba yagger this is how I think Quantum break is going to make a come back in control 2

  • @FentFanta
    @FentFanta 7 месяцев назад

    It's so incredible to finally get an answer to all these questions with Alan Wake 2.

  • @urgedwarrior
    @urgedwarrior 8 месяцев назад

    Watching the Return bit that they made with the themes to touch on in Alan Wake 2 after playing Alan Wake 2 makes is just another perfect little echo as well!