That micro adjuster from Canyon Tools is cool as heck! Developing universal tools that increase usability of other devices is actually incredibly hard and often impossible. Solving this problem with that little doodad over something that often requires a massive new fence (of which have their own problems you've pointed out in reviews) is impressive!
Agreed. I have a Vega fence which has a very similar micro adjust built into the T-square which is awesome but costs quite a bit more especially after all the price increases over the past 4 years so while this might be kind of pricey it's a fraction of the price of a fence upgrade.
I have Canyon Fire Tools Micro Adjuster and Woodpeckers RipFlip stop. I use that to flip stops for repeatable cuts with the saw fence and single blade like with a kerfmaker. I use the micro adjuster as Mark said to replace the tapping of the fence. It 's more controlled and because it attached magnetically it allows for adjustme
Love when providers give product origin, wherever it is made. I have no idea where stupid simple & finishing pads are made w/o researching - always enjoy your presentations.
Thanks for the heads up on these Marc. I'll definitely be adding the fence micro adjuster to the arsenal, and will order a small pack of the applicator pads to try out, but the alignment jig is easy enough to DIY since I already have a dial indicator.
Vega Engineering has an after-market table saw fence that has the micro-adjustment built in. I've had mine for almost 20 years. It works exactly like this one except it has a lever to lock the adjuster in place.
Those are some cool recommendations, Marc. I'll definitely be picking up some of the stain pads. The MicroMag adjuster looks pretty neat (but pricey), but my (pricey) Rip-Flip takes care of that task for me. More videos like this would be great~!
Just yesterday I clamped a block to the tablesaw rail against the edge of the fence T-square. Then, loosened the fence and slid a feeler gage between them. Simple, cheap, accurate. I suspect that the micro adjuster would be faster, but I don't see the need to spend that kind of money for micro adjustment when it's that easy to do with feeler gages.
There are as many woodworking gadgets today as there is tackle at a bait shop. Most woodworkers already own a vernier or digital vernier caliper. With a Mag-DRO miter slot base or their magnetic base you can do all of these things much more expensive jigs can do at a small fraction of the price in setting up your table saw and fence. I use these tools if I need ultra precise movements of my saw fence and they don’t take up much space at all. You can stick the magnet base right to your saw and the miter slot base fits easily inside my DRO vernier caliper storage box. Dial indicators are not necessary and these calipers are just as accurate and for many, easier to read.
Agreed. The whole industry is based on convincing you you have an issue and then selling you a solution to that issue. 95 % of new products are completely superfluous.
Thanks Marc. Picked up a couple of packs of the stain pads and I think I’m going to get that fence adjuster. Honestly that looks like something your buddy Andrew would make. Think thats his name. The guy you forced me to buy the vice from. Thats how I remember it going down.
I have the SST calibrator, and found it did a better job than my older iGaging 35-0928. Like... MUCH better. My entire saw (Laguna Fusion 3/52) is within .001-.002 in every measurement now and feels great running pretty much anything through a rip now.
I have the woodpeckers rip flip that does the micro adjustment (among other things) and I have a solution for saw blade alignment, but those pads are worth the price of admission for this video. Will be buying.
The wood pecker rip flip that you attach under the fence rail can be used for the same purpose as the magnetic adjuster. I like the rip flip Caues you can use it to dial in dados with the turn of a set screw that touches the handle of the fence.
Talking about buying American made products, I was on a Facebook thread where they were discussing Nabisco sending Oreo production to Mexico. There was a young guy commenting about how he is new member of a union and everyone should buy U.S. made products, etc, etc. He lamented the Oreo cookie being made in Mexico because his kids like Oreo cookies. Someone suggested he buy Hydrox cookies because they are still made in the USA. He said, "...but they cost more."
I have the stupid simple tools tramming device. It is beautifully made. I thought it would be overkill for aligning my drill press, but honestly I had no idea how off some of my holes were and how annoying it was when things didn't line up.
I use the Makrs stain pads. I think they're great! Looks to be a small US business but they do a good job of hiding their actual location for some reason.
For anyone looking for exact saw fence accuracy, you may also want to take a look at the Wixey Saw Fence Digital Readout. You can get readouts in increments down to 0.005 inch.
@ you only use it when cutting so I would think it would last a while. The one on my planer lasts a while. I use rechargeable batteries for everything which helps.
Thanks for the reviews. I would love to get a recommendation for a micro adjuster for a Laguna 1412. Or even an alternative to the more expensive DXIII Driftmaster.
Hi Marc, great video content once more. I know that it is out of the subject, but I am thinking of upgrading my shop lighting. Are you still satisfied with your American Green Lights lighting? Thanks for the greatly appreciated work on your channel.
I bought the micro adjuster and the recommended Mag Switch based on your recommendation. When I attached the adjuster to my Super Fine Tools T arm it did not touch the the bar, as yours did. When I engaged the Mag Switch it pulled the adjuster down to the rail, but then the left side of the adjuster was raised, and the adjuster didn't work. I contacted the Mfg. who advised me to purchase a different Mag Switch. They said they didn't know what you recommended, and I didn't want to purchase additional parts, so I returned it for a refund. It does not fit all fences, without purchasing different parts, which was not discussed in your video.
I feel like I need to clarify. Patrick did contact me and we discussed his issue. His fence sits at 7/16” above his rail. I clarified that the description of the tool indicates that if the “T” section of your fence sits more than 3/8” above the rail that either your fence will need adjustment down or you will need to utilize the MagMate 95 lb on/off magnet that is designed for going all the way through a hole. The limitation is caused by the fact that the MagSwitch brand magnet is designed for use on 3/4” material, my tool is 3/8” thick thus leaving 3/8” for the distance between the top of the fence and the rail. I had another happy customer send me a picture of the T-Fence MicroMag Adjuster on his VerySuperCool brand fence and it functions perfectly, I posted additional pictures on my website. I’m not sure what the Super Fine Tools fence is so I’m assuming it is actually a VerySuperCool fence, I asked Patrick for a picture but he didn’t share one with me. Either way the MagMate brand magnet would have solved Patrick’s problem but he elected to return the tool instead of returning the magnet and purchasing the one I recommended. Sorry for the long reply, I just don’t want Patrick’s comment to scare off potential buyers.
I love made in USA. I know that I can make that micro adjuster for under $50. That is being very generous on that estimate. AND it will be made in the USA.
Cool stuff. Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately, it does seem like, for the most part, people are only interested in advocating for US-made stuff until it might hit their own wallets. Then it's off to Amazon/Alibaba/Banggood/etc
Correct. Everyone likes to trash talk companies that outsource production to cheap labour countries. But how much do we suppose a $1,000 smartphone would cost if it was made in Texas instead of China? A lot of people can't seem to put that together as they talk about bringing manufacturing back to North America.
The fence microadjustor is intriguing, but how well does it lock down the fence and keep it from deflecting? I have a powermatic with a biesmeyer fence, amd I had all sorts of inaccuracy for a time until I discovered my fence lock down mechanism was not tight enough. If I understand this product right, that lockdown mechanism wouldn’t be in play, so is it the strength of that magnet that will hold a big beast of a fence from any deflection?
And again: made in USA is not automatically a "best quality" guarantee, just as the opposite is not. Every country may have great quality tools. The RUclips woodworking shows tend to be leaning against "USA or bad" stamp. Not fair.
It’s not so much as “made in the USA or bad.” You’ll often see RUclips woodworkers sing praises for Jess Em tools which are Canadian as an example. It’s often times more of a filter for “Not made as cheaply as possible.” Other times, yeah, they’re some nationalist that take pride in purchases from their own country. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that either.
i'd consider some recommendations if they weren't through that vile, disgusting amazon company. whenever someone mentions that sickening entity as a viable option for anything, i'm forced to lower my opinion of that person.
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That micro adjuster from Canyon Tools is cool as heck! Developing universal tools that increase usability of other devices is actually incredibly hard and often impossible. Solving this problem with that little doodad over something that often requires a massive new fence (of which have their own problems you've pointed out in reviews) is impressive!
Agreed. I have a Vega fence which has a very similar micro adjust built into the T-square which is awesome but costs quite a bit more especially after all the price increases over the past 4 years so while this might be kind of pricey it's a fraction of the price of a fence upgrade.
I have Canyon Fire Tools Micro Adjuster and Woodpeckers RipFlip stop. I use that to flip stops for repeatable cuts with the saw fence and single blade like with a kerfmaker. I use the micro adjuster as Mark said to replace the tapping of the fence. It 's more controlled and because it attached magnetically it allows for adjustme
toward the blade and away. It's well made and the magnet that attaches to the blade is strong.
Love when providers give product origin, wherever it is made. I have no idea where stupid simple & finishing pads are made w/o researching - always enjoy your presentations.
It says on Amazon it's a father son company from Colorado.
Thanks for the heads up on these Marc. I'll definitely be adding the fence micro adjuster to the arsenal, and will order a small pack of the applicator pads to try out, but the alignment jig is easy enough to DIY since I already have a dial indicator.
For table saw alignment I have a dial indicator attached to a DIY jig made from scrap wood. It works fine and cost under $20.
Vega Engineering has an after-market table saw fence that has the micro-adjustment built in. I've had mine for almost 20 years. It works exactly like this one except it has a lever to lock the adjuster in place.
Those are some cool recommendations, Marc. I'll definitely be picking up some of the stain pads. The MicroMag adjuster looks pretty neat (but pricey), but my (pricey) Rip-Flip takes care of that task for me. More videos like this would be great~!
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Pretty interesting tools indeed, Marc! Thanks! 😃
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I have the A-Line-It set. Super useful for more than the saw and fence.
Just yesterday I clamped a block to the tablesaw rail against the edge of the fence T-square. Then, loosened the fence and slid a feeler gage between them. Simple, cheap, accurate. I suspect that the micro adjuster would be faster, but I don't see the need to spend that kind of money for micro adjustment when it's that easy to do with feeler gages.
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I like the A-LINE-IT Calibration Tool. 🙂🙂
There are as many woodworking gadgets today as there is tackle at a bait shop. Most woodworkers already own a vernier or digital vernier caliper. With a Mag-DRO miter slot base or their magnetic base you can do all of these things much more expensive jigs can do at a small fraction of the price in setting up your table saw and fence. I use these tools if I need ultra precise movements of my saw fence and they don’t take up much space at all. You can stick the magnet base right to your saw and the miter slot base fits easily inside my DRO vernier caliper storage box. Dial indicators are not necessary and these calipers are just as accurate and for many, easier to read.
Agreed. The whole industry is based on convincing you you have an issue and then selling you a solution to that issue. 95 % of new products are completely superfluous.
Thanks Marc. Picked up a couple of packs of the stain pads and I think I’m going to get that fence adjuster. Honestly that looks like something your buddy Andrew would make. Think thats his name. The guy you forced me to buy the vice from. Thats how I remember it going down.
I have the SST calibrator, and found it did a better job than my older iGaging 35-0928. Like... MUCH better. My entire saw (Laguna Fusion 3/52) is within .001-.002 in every measurement now and feels great running pretty much anything through a rip now.
Just bought some stain pads. Thanks Marc.
I have the woodpeckers rip flip that does the micro adjustment (among other things) and I have a solution for saw blade alignment, but those pads are worth the price of admission for this video. Will be buying.
Thanks Marc.
Love that shirt, friend!
I’m taking the wife out to dinner tonight before she sees my new purchases. LOL
Smart man.
Good call!😂😂
Better leave her at the restaurant
That's IF you can still afford it...
The wood pecker rip flip that you attach under the fence rail can be used for the same purpose as the magnetic adjuster. I like the rip flip Caues you can use it to dial in dados with the turn of a set screw that touches the handle of the fence.
I have the Rip Flip on my table saw as well and it works great for fine adjustment. However, it won't fit on all table saws.
Talking about buying American made products, I was on a Facebook thread where they were discussing Nabisco sending Oreo production to Mexico. There was a young guy commenting about how he is new member of a union and everyone should buy U.S. made products, etc, etc. He lamented the Oreo cookie being made in Mexico because his kids like Oreo cookies. Someone suggested he buy Hydrox cookies because they are still made in the USA. He said, "...but they cost more."
Hydrox sounds like acne medicine.
Fun fact. Oreo cookies introduced in 1912 were a copy of Hydrox introduced in 1908.
The A-line-it tool looks a lot like my Igauging saw calibrator. I’ve even used it on my drill press to check run out.
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Great videos by the way. Thanks
I have the stupid simple tools tramming device. It is beautifully made. I thought it would be overkill for aligning my drill press, but honestly I had no idea how off some of my holes were and how annoying it was when things didn't line up.
I use the Makrs stain pads. I think they're great! Looks to be a small US business but they do a good job of hiding their actual location for some reason.
I believe they're in Colorado.
I have the woodpeckers table saw alignment doodad. It's pretty sweet. I got it second hand, so I can't comment on the value too much, but it's nice.
For anyone looking for exact saw fence accuracy, you may also want to take a look at the Wixey Saw Fence Digital Readout. You can get readouts in increments down to 0.005 inch.
I've seen that. Looks cool, but I wonder how many batteries it chews through in a month?
My Wixey calipers aren't battery friendly.
@ you only use it when cutting so I would think it would last a while. The one on my planer lasts a while. I use rechargeable batteries for everything which helps.
I got the wixey tablesaw digital readout it is incredible, very accurate!
@Myafin4 No arguments with accuracy for my Wixey calipers, but it chews through batteries.
Thanks for the reviews. I would love to get a recommendation for a micro adjuster for a Laguna 1412. Or even an alternative to the more expensive DXIII Driftmaster.
The T-Fence MicroMag Adjuster will work just like Marc showed on his Harvey bandsaw.
Ordered the pads on Amazon to compare them to my standard finish applicator.
Dustin is out of my price range. I made on for 50. The 95# magnet was $38 of that
Now waiting for woodpeckers to make one 😜
Hi Marc, great video content once more. I know that it is out of the subject, but I am thinking of upgrading my shop lighting. Are you still satisfied with your American Green Lights lighting? Thanks for the greatly appreciated work on your channel.
What are thoughts about your drill press and jointer
I bought the micro adjuster and the recommended Mag Switch based on your recommendation. When I attached the adjuster to my Super Fine Tools T arm it did not touch the the bar, as yours did. When I engaged the Mag Switch it pulled the adjuster down to the rail, but then the left side of the adjuster was raised, and the adjuster didn't work. I contacted the Mfg. who advised me to purchase a different Mag Switch. They said they didn't know what you recommended, and I didn't want to purchase additional parts, so I returned it for a refund. It does not fit all fences, without purchasing different parts, which was not discussed in your video.
I feel like I need to clarify. Patrick did contact me and we discussed his issue. His fence sits at 7/16” above his rail. I clarified that the description of the tool indicates that if the “T” section of your fence sits more than 3/8” above the rail that either your fence will need adjustment down or you will need to utilize the MagMate 95 lb on/off magnet that is designed for going all the way through a hole. The limitation is caused by the fact that the MagSwitch brand magnet is designed for use on 3/4” material, my tool is 3/8” thick thus leaving 3/8” for the distance between the top of the fence and the rail. I had another happy customer send me a picture of the T-Fence MicroMag Adjuster on his VerySuperCool brand fence and it functions perfectly, I posted additional pictures on my website. I’m not sure what the Super Fine Tools fence is so I’m assuming it is actually a VerySuperCool fence, I asked Patrick for a picture but he didn’t share one with me. Either way the MagMate brand magnet would have solved Patrick’s problem but he elected to return the tool instead of returning the magnet and purchasing the one I recommended. Sorry for the long reply, I just don’t want Patrick’s comment to scare off potential buyers.
I love made in USA. I know that I can make that micro adjuster for under $50. That is being very generous on that estimate. AND it will be made in the USA.
Cool stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Unfortunately, it does seem like, for the most part, people are only interested in advocating for US-made stuff until it might hit their own wallets. Then it's off to Amazon/Alibaba/Banggood/etc
Correct. Everyone likes to trash talk companies that outsource production to cheap labour countries. But how much do we suppose a $1,000 smartphone would cost if it was made in Texas instead of China? A lot of people can't seem to put that together as they talk about bringing manufacturing back to North America.
How I get perfect finish? I use blonde shellac cut with everclear, then I buff with just everclear 😂
Not gonna lie Marc...I'm partial to Can'tStandYa: "You wanna gets...lets get nuts!"
The fence microadjustor is intriguing, but how well does it lock down the fence and keep it from deflecting? I have a powermatic with a biesmeyer fence, amd I had all sorts of inaccuracy for a time until I discovered my fence lock down mechanism was not tight enough. If I understand this product right, that lockdown mechanism wouldn’t be in play, so is it the strength of that magnet that will hold a big beast of a fence from any deflection?
you don't understand the product right! you still lock down the fence as usual. to adjust, unlock the fence, use the fine adjust, re-lock the fence
I have in the past bought some builds off of your guild - a long time ago. Do you still have that and if so how do I find it.
Never mind = butterfingers found it.
The average RUclipsr has an American flag on the wall and a shop full of Milwaukee tools.
😂
Murica'
I'm not too bothered about where an item is made ( I live in Wales), so "made in America " doesn’t matter to me. Although they are good-looking tools.
And again: made in USA is not automatically a "best quality" guarantee, just as the opposite is not. Every country may have great quality tools. The RUclips woodworking shows tend to be leaning against "USA or bad" stamp. Not fair.
It’s not so much as “made in the USA or bad.” You’ll often see RUclips woodworkers sing praises for Jess Em tools which are Canadian as an example. It’s often times more of a filter for “Not made as cheaply as possible.”
Other times, yeah, they’re some nationalist that take pride in purchases from their own country. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that either.
It mainly is a statement mostly saying support USA made products. That means keeping dollars in our country not supporting other countries.
$150 to avoid “tap…tap…tap? I’ll pass.
@@bw162 I could see the magnet on the fence move before the fence did, not sure how much that affects the precision.
i'd consider some recommendations if they weren't through that vile, disgusting amazon company. whenever someone mentions that sickening entity as a viable option for anything, i'm forced to lower my opinion of that person.