Material Stacking in Redshift for C4D 2023 + Fix
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This is greatly apprected! Could not figure out what was going on with something you would think should be easy. Many thanks Stepan!
Thank you for your comment 🙌
Thank you so much for doing a super quick tutorial on this one, I found it really useful!
Thank you for your comment. )
Ahhh, that render settings reset was just what I needed. Thanks for that!
Yaaas!
yeah me too, i wonder if updates fixed this bug, will install updates now and check :) thanks!
Same. I was tearing my hair out on why this didn't work the same on old and new projects. Thank you!
I have just wasted a huge number of hours trying to figure this out. THANK YOU !!
Ha great thank you for your comment.
Thank you! It worked
Update on "Fix"
Maybe it will hepl in the future → try to check in RS settings under "System" → "Legacy" → "Material proccesing mode" → shold be "Staking" (not "Single (legacy))
It worked for me
Thank you 👊
Man, you just saved my life. I've spent hours trying to get what was going on, nothing was working, and this fixed everything, thank you so much
thank you - very helpful and concise.
Thank you for your comment
Thank you for the video! I was just wondering how you turned the Shader Graph back on in 2023? I hate the Node Editor C4D 2023 forces up on you. And I couldn't find a setting to turn it off in the Prefences of Cinema.
Thank you so much. What is Nice you can bring console Shift+C and then type Node materials for preset and drag that button onto your toolbar this way you can Switch in between the two as you please
Oh thanks for this tutorial! Very useful! Could you tell, is the some way to stacked materials replace normal or bump map from base materials?
I think stacked materials now support displacement of the First material I need to still try this myself
1:19 thanks, it helped!
Niceee!!!
i am on c4d 2024 and cannot find opacity color.
Hey so my decals are not staying in place when using a cloth simulator. It only works when I am using UVW Projection instead of Flat but the problem is when it is UVW I cannot transform the decals. Any Help??
Hey did you try the +pin material tag or you can set UVW coordinates. Have you sorted this out already?
Is there a way to do this and retain the original colors of the sticker? This works well for single color decals, but not sure how to do this with multiple color decals. Thanks!
Material stacking feels broken atm 🤣🙏 I dont use It that much lately
Thanks for the tutorial! btw may i ask, does material stacking only work with RS standard material? I tried using the same method with Redshift Material however when i added the layer to be stacked the entire object turns red (error in material output)
Good point I have tested on my end you can download the file on my Discord to try It too. It looks like It works
@@StepanHKA Thank you so much! I have tried troubleshooting with some help and it was because in the 1st material there was displacement enabled. So at the moment material stacking does not work with displacement, at least for me.
Second that. No displacements allowed. Ridiculous. How hard can something like that be to fix at their end. F*^#!ing Redshift.
In fact, it’s not even just that. In RS settings >Advanced > Legacy there are two settings at the bottom. One of them is “stacked” or “Single”. That’s the culprit, but if you use stacked (which is what you get by creating a new Render Setting), then it all goes red again and you get an illegal texture warning in the IPR. If you choose “single” then that’s what you get - either the base material or the decal. I think if all you’re doing is putting graffiti on a plastic cube, it might work, but taking a megascan decal of staining to put on a concrete wall and you’re screwed.
Very nice tutorial, can't wait to try that new feature in my projects. Btw your discord link is broken, would be interested to join it!
Thanks for telling me ❤️🙌 will fix It asap
i have another stacking concept that I cant seem to work out in RS C4d... Let's say I have a plane. I have one texture that is an ASPHALT textures on a giant plane. To cover the plane it is TILED.. Now I want the giant square ASHPALT plane to have an alpha channel so it fades out with a big circular gradient across the entire shape/plane.. if I apply the circle grad in the opacity of the ASPHALT TEXTURE it will TILE with the ASPHALT texture. If I stack it it will just make a large faded out grey circle gradient over the tiled ASPHALT TEXTURE.. How do I make the ALPHA(circle gradient) of the grey circle affect the texture below it?
I can help with that. Do you have discord ?
@@StepanHKA thanks I think I got it tile the asphalt in the shader graph and not on the tag!REMAP... love how all the renderers have their own jargon for tiling..corona for transparency is FRACTION...LOL wtf?!?!
Hey man - thanks for this video. Id actually like to know more about the RS UVW material you had in material manager. Could you possibly share more information on how to set this up please and how to use the AOV at all?? Thanks
For UV unwrapping is great to follow channels like Polygon Pen I am very bad at this 😄😁😁 for AOV I will put on my list for suuure
Heeey Stepan ! As usual, sick tutorial, very easy to follow !
Little issue here : idk why but I can't keep my png transparency. I tried everthing (splitter, sprite, material blender...) but the sticker has always a black square...
Any tip ? (PS : I'm not a novice)
Thank you for your comment. I have experienced this issue too It may be a bug also do use displacement map?
@@StepanHKA Problem "resolved" with relaunching the PC
Redshift is very weird sometimes
Thanks for your help anyway
seems like material stacking have limit? I can only stack 6 materials before it give me error.
That's correct
So if you need more I recommend some materials can be more complex a have multiple layers within one material this way you can add more complexity
When I render a image sequence the texture flickers on and off.
Can confirm, Material Stacking does not work with animation at all
I havent tried to render animation with stacked materials thanks for flagging this
@@StepanHKA yeah you can test it just quickly animate the object the material is stacking on to move and you can check in the Renderview, the flicker shows up there for me also
@@bigporchSame problem!!! Any solution?
@@Cookofmotion so far no, I’ve tried all sorts of stuff (like a triplanar makes it stick but then repeats it adds a bunch of whole new problems). Been on with Maxon support for over a month and they don’t know either.
I hate this material stacking. And I know we can turn it off, but sometimes I am working in a production and someone already did the approved concepts using it on….It’s a nightmare to control the colour of transparent shaders when you have more than one on the same object even if you use selection it keeps affect the other faces. I believe c4d is the only software adopting this. It could be handy in some situations, but I still prefer controlling using material blender and layers+masks to have more controle e to be have the shaders more readable and translatable to different softwares. Maybe I am doing something very wrong. Thanks for the video anyway !
100 percent What you say! I think stacking is broken now
Halle-fuknlujah - LOL
😂😅
2024 год, эта проблема всё ещё актуальна
Thats crazy 😅
@@StepanHKA Это была одна из главных фишек обновления. Надо штурмовать форум, сломан material stacking уже год, это ужасно
Thanks for the tut and hint with the redo of render settings, but is there any possibility to get this also running properly in previous versions?
I have tried a standard redshift render preset like you suggested but at least for version R26 this does not seem to work ...
Thanks for the comment. You are right the stacking only works in 2023 from what I know
@@StepanHKA thanks for the clarification. In the end I did use the previous method of creating a blend material.