I was hit by a pick-up truck last week when it pulled out in front of me. I was doing about 25 mph when my head bounced off the hood/bonnet. I was wearing my MIPS helmet and had no head injury! I'm not saying that no other helmet would have protected me but it does work!
@@crisgarcia1384 caught an edge on grass while initiating a left turn { super late season} &my downhill ski just pushed out faster then i could have believed . Instantly Flat spun me 180. vertical head fall at least 10 feet. Broke the MIPSin the helmet but that would have been a HUGE injury. I am glad to see that the people behind the patent have licensed to to basically all manufacturers. Its too big of an improvement in safety to keep to
About 21 years ago I had a head on with a car at speed. Wrote off the bike and cost thousands of damage to the car. I hit the windshield head on with my head shattering the windshield and helmet, flipped over the top and end up in a ditch unconscious. Probably exactly same impact as shown in tests here. Ambulance arrived and carried me off to hospital. After a number of tests etc I was released with just lots of cuts, bruises, 13 stitches in my leg and bad whiplash/neck pain. No MIPS obviously back then. Was I lucky? Have a hard head? Who knows. But this new tech is proven to give you a ‘greater chance’ of surviving so why wouldn’t you use it?
@@russellscott1151 Dutch people think they dont need helmets some dont even know the benefits of normal helmets. Had already several discussions with such guys....dont know why some people dont even know that you can actualy have hard injuries or even die if you fall to the floor just while standing not even talking about habing speed on a bicylce.
Last April I had a high speed crash with multiple rotational impacts while wearing a MIPS helmet. Every part of my body sustained injuries except for my feet and head. I was checked by the emergency room staff and did not receive a concussion or worse. In fact I didn’t even have headache. It’s my belief that the quality MIPS helmet I had made a difference.
As someone with a TBI, I truly appreciate every effort made to make sure no one else has to live with a TBI. And MIPS is a great step forward for cyclists and maybe horse riding.
Bought a new MIPS helmet this week. I'm surprised even many cheaper helmets had MIPS. I think it'll eventually become standard on most helmets...at least until the next technology.
Interesting video, I crashed 18 months ago, in a helmet without MIPS and I am still dealing with the repercussions of TBI. After the broken bones healed, first thing I did was get a MIPS helmet!
@@pjgarcia2417 The tech presupposes you wear your helmet synched tight to your head. All it does is allow a small amount of movement to lengthen the moment of inertia. The same thing can be done on non-yellow helmets for free by wearing it just a tad loose. It will move the same way these MiPs helmets move.
I am appreciative of the MIPS system. I sustained a MBI from being hit by a car. MIPS did its job. About 30% of the foam was cracked, a small section of the plastic covering the foam cracked. The helmet was dented onmthe top and where the 30% cracked foam was the covering plastic wasmdeformed. Mymfoncussion has extended past the 3 month mark. I can't ridemir drive a car yet,. I bought a new helmet today with MIPS. Thankyou.
Very interesting! In the beautiful slow-mo shot at 15:34, using the keyboard keys you can see that the helmet deforms on impact while the head keeps moving forward because of the structural separation between the outer portion of the helmet and the head. I don't know if the rotational energy causing concussions thing is true, but by designing the system to absorb rotational energy as well as direct energy, the system is absorbing more of the total impact energy, thus lowering the total energy going into the brain.
Took a crash on a dh bike at about 35kmph recently and had a side rotation impact from a tree, I was mildly concussed but I genuinely Believe this stopped me getting a severe concussion. Well worth the money
A very important subject covered really well by Chris. Well done 👍 only thing that spoilt it was 3 adverts in 15mins and a 4th at the end. That's a bit much.
Asking a company to talk about their product is hardly investigative journalism, lol. This is basically an ad. A great, informative, ad though. Good video, for sure. Definitely not investigative journalism though, for sure. :)
@@gdr17racing51 Most Giro, Bell and Specialized helmets either come in a MIPS verison or have it as a standard. There's probably more brands that have MIPS but these are the ones i know of for sure. POC apparently has their own "knock off" MIPS technology. I personally have the Bell Stratus.
i bought a Giant Rev Comp MIPS helmet a month ago and i wondering what MIPS means, so that's the reason it brought me here. thanks for this information.
I'm not a pro cyclist so I value helmet safety very highly. Its actually my priority when it comes to choosing a helmet. Ill be looking out for MIPS on my next helmet
Like Chris, I picked my helmets by look and feel but if the MIPS helps then all the better. I think I have one MIPS helmet and 2 non MIPS. I wear them equally as much.
SkidLid was selling this in 70's. CPSC (US Consumer Product Safety), Snell Foundation (independent helmet testing), and Bell (helmet manufacture) put them outa business. And SkidLid was a classic undercapitalized, family-run, labor of love. 50 years of unnecessary head injury.
For those unaware, Virginia Tech tests helmets of all kinds and rates them independently so it’s worth checking them out when shopping for a new helmet.
My new helmet has this and I wondered about the theory. Good to know. Makes me laugh at the reviews for the helmet though, more than a few complained about the cheap plastic liner and pulled it out.
Yes, most of us don't think about the specifics of rotational motion or how a helmet actually works... until we experience it first hand. I survived a crash (my first and only so far!) this summer because of my MIPS helmet. Cracked a couple of vertebrae and the first rib, which shows how much force there was. But no concussion = freaking amazing! It was $30 more for the MIPS version of the helmet - a no-brainer (pun intended).
As someone who snowboards and frequently uses a Surron, along with many other extreme sports, MIPS is a 100% must have. Along with some other impact protection technologies like Wavecel safety is becoming better and better. Although the price may jump up that’s all worth it when you think of it as how much do you value your own brain. Great video showing what goes into the tech.
i was doing a dh run on a trail near mine and didnt realise a branch has droped down lower on a tree and i went straight in to it but thankgod helmet hit and took the impact and i was fine as mips took care of it i recommend mips 100% saved me serious injuries to head for sure
Retired engineer here. Very interesting thanks very much. More information about the following would have made it even more interesting. 1. A clearer explanation about how MIPS works. Are there two parts to the helmet, an inner part 'fixed' to the head and an outer part, the shell, which slips over the inner part to dissipate rotational impact forces? 2. Analysis of the comparison of test results for helemets with and without MIPS. 3. Discussion about ...does the fact that the test head is not connected to a body make any difference to the effectivness of MIPS? Here I'm thinking.... on the one hand the test head and helmit bounce off the anvil into the air, which dissipates impact energy.... and .... and on the other hand, IF the test head and helmet were connected to a body they could not bounce off the anvil into the air, THEN where would the energy thats dissipated by 'bouncing off the anvil into the air' go? Would it go to the head and be dissipated there or what?
So, should mips eqquiped helmets be freely rotating "10-15mm" while wearing it? Or should it be tight and barely moving like there's no mips at all? Because I think the biggest problem here is helmet sizing. For example, 59cm head size falls between a large and medium size. With a medium size, the mips helmet barely moves(kinda defeats the purpose of mips) but with a large size helmet, properly fitted, the mips "motion" is very noticeable. Although this is a great informative video, it didn't even tackle sizing and proper fitting of mips eqquiped helmets to properly take advantage of the new technology.
There is an internal "cage" with adjustable fit via a ratcheting wheel on the back of the helmet. This cage is suspended by the mips system which isolates your head from an impact on the external helmet shell. So basically when you have the helmet on, the internal cage remains tight on your head but you can move the shell of the helmet slightly. You would choose a mips helmet size like any other helmet.
@@JulitoPapitoo I think you missed the whole essence of my comment. It's the sizing of the helmet that makes this technology a hit or miss. Yes, the ratcheting wheel can make your helmet fit better, but the outer shell still remains big if the consumer falls in-between sizes. My example was a 59cm head size which generally falls between a large and a medium sized helmet. The difference in the size of the shell is very substantial between large and medium. So, even if you tighten the ratchet wheel (on a large helmet), the mips cage is secured but the shell moves too much. And if you do decide to go down a size (medium), then the shell plus mips cage sits/rests on your head. As a result, the cage has very little to no allowance to move. Or worse, it actually moves with the shell itself (which then becomes a traditional non-mips helmet). This "slight" movement that you've mentioned actually has a range in millimeters according to MIPS. So, you can't just say pick a helmet size and see if it moves "slightly".
I had never heard of this system until today. I'm looking at getting an E-bike, so I was looking at helmets. I will definitely only buy a helmet with the MIPS system in it. I work in Radiology, so I see a lot of head injuries.
Rotational motion in head trauma causes what is called diffuse axonal injury, or DAI, which is when the axonal fibers of the neurons are sheered off because of the rotational motion. This is because the gray matter, where the brain cells are located and the white matter, where the axon fibers are located, have slightly different physical propertiers so that a sudden rotational acceleration cause the two layers to accelerate/decelerate at different speeds resulting in a sheering force between the two layers. This causes the axons to sheer off from the neuron bodies. This is different from a direct blow to the brain, which simply contuses, or bruises the brain at the surface
Interesting video, just had to buy a new helmet after a crash which smashed it up and it's a no-brainer (sorry) to get one with mips as the price differential isn't that great anymore and it's available on helmets lower down the range. My question is what's the difference between the MIPS system and having a cap on underneath (or indeed lots of hair)? Wouldn't both of those things also allow the head to move independently of the helmet in a similar way?
The final example with the snow globe is a very bad one: the snow does not move when dropping down because it's all at the bottom already. Instead, the brain is not all on one side of the skull.
In a lot of test there is no difference between MIPS and non-MIPS helmets. Some helmets without MIPS have even better test values in rotational motion tests than MIPS helmets.
Funny, I have been cycling for 40 yrs, it is my main transport, only been hit by cars twice in all that time in quite a minor way without head injury thank God, and I see a lot of dangerous driving and idiot motorists (not indicating, speeding in residential areas, speeding across roundabouts etc) but am never that nervous about cycling, but just watching a few seconds of video with a crash test human head and hearing people talking about severe head injuries, makes me a lot more nervous, something disturbing about the imagery...and I guess is a reality check about how dangerous it is to be a cyclist in a motorized vehicle dominated society and transport infrastructure.
Only recently come across MIPS and find the tech very interesting. I’ve had a number of severe cranial injuries in my time, only two involving cycles. But both of those involved having the cycle & me being flung into the air and one involved being partially run over by a hit+run car, with me thrown over a bridge’s parapet. I could’ve done with something to reduce both head injuries. (Mind one could’ve been helped, if the driver hadn’t left me hanging off a bridge, while I bled onto the dual carriageway below.) Never did find the driver . But MIPS, yes. I’m just about to renew my chainsaw helmet. And only one forestry helmet, has MIPS protection built-in as standard.
Wow, GCN this must be a first. This really good video with Chris was uploaded and I enjoyed it very much a couple of weeks ago but when I heard it mentioned on the GCN Show I thought that it was a mistake but no.... what happened here? Loved Opie and this subject but do we really need it twice in a month or has someone in the GCN offices maybe got concusion?! 😜
Recently bought and then returned a MIPS helmet that I very much wanted, because it was the wrong size and didn't fit properly. I had assumed that S, M & L nomenclature was a standard among brands, and didn't even try it on when I purchased it. In one brand I am "Large" and in the other I am a "Small." Must go by mm size only! Now I have a non-MIPS helmet that fits properly. I think it's a great advancement and will purchase one in the future, I expect. I wonder if a non-MIPS interior system that allows some movement is advantageous, if not quite as much so.
I just bought a MIPS helmet from Bell. My previous Bell was not a MIPS. Same size helmet (medium) and supposedly I am 3cm under the upper size rating. The MIPS one fits a lot more snug, almost too snug. I usually wear a casquette and probably should have gone up a size.
I just bought a new helmet. I did not and would not consider any helmet without a MIPS system. I had an accident some years ago where my helmet saved my life. I sent pictures of the broken helmet to the manufacturer and their reaction was "And you lived!". So, I suggest always wearing a helmet, specifically one with MIPS.
I am a bit late to the party but…. The tests are done with a ~5kg head, what about the 60+ kg of the rest of the body that are coming along for the crash? Don’t it matter? Won’t it change the dynamic of the forces playing in the Mips system? Is the Mips still as efficient when loaded with a 60kg+ weight? 🤔 Btw, my helmet has this system, because as in everything related to brain damage, better be safe than sorry…
The plastic of the mips reduces the crushing of the EPS foam in a straight on impact, and their test rig has the grippiest grip tape which maximizes the rotation, I wonder how much difference there would be with asphalt and if that would offset the reduction in crushing from the mips plastic 🤔
surely the mass of the brain relative to the skull can be known as well as the distance from skull to brain as it floats in the protective fluid , therefore we can calculate accurately how far said brain will bounce around. the goal is to create an isolate gyroscope for the head ( and ultimately the brain ) to ride inside of as it collides with another mass, moving or not. considering the skull is connected to the spine and upper body, a full skeletal model inside a mold would need to be implanted with millions of microchips and then subjected to countless real world inertia tests at all possible speeds and angles then we would have a truly perfect as possible helmet
This is the most interesting video I have seen this week on YT and I'm not even searched for it. 🤪 I will definitely buy a new helmet. Is the helmet comfort the same with mips?
best case scenario, just head weight. Add the extra 150 lbs body weight for the average American and you will find the angular/linear shock absorptive capability ALREADY maxed out. The tail end of the acceleration will show a spike when the end of the mips track is reached. (Mechanically this means that the mips is already at the end of its rotational limited track.) The frictional track of the mips may have to be increased in proportion to the increased several times weight to allow as linear vs time angular mometum decrease. Instead of smooth plastic a higher friction surface and longer track may be more ideal to absorb more energy to prevent the spike. Ex aero space Eng
Great vid, completely agree with what MIPS are doing however, when they test why are they not using a full weighted body not just the head because surely this increases the impact speed, pressure and other aspects such as rotation???
About 21 years ago I had a head on with a car at speed. Wrote off the bike and cost thousands of damage to the car. I hit the windshield head on with my head shattering the windshield and helmet, flipped over the top and end up in a ditch unconscious. Probably exactly same impact as shown in tests here. Ambulance arrived and carried me off to hospital. After a number of tests etc I was released with just lots of cuts, bruises, 13 stitches in my leg and bad whiplash/neck pain. No MIPS obviously back then. Was I lucky? Have a hard head? Who knows. But this new tech is proven to give you a ‘greater chance’ of surviving so why wouldn’t you use it?
I though Si and Dan were drunk at the end of the last GCN Show when they said that this video was coming out this week..but no, the whole GCN HQ is drunk! 😂
And if this were next door in Finland, the script would be "There's even another really cool room to go to after massage - the hot sauna and freezing cold plunge pool!"
I recently came off my bike at speed & my head along with the rest of my body was hurled into a cattle grid af full force. My Giro MIPS helmet saved my life without a shadow of a doubt. If I had not been wearing my helmet the right side & temple region of my head would have impacted into the cattle grid. I was badly bruised around my ribs, arms & legs. They are now healed. Please guys, Always wear a MIPS helmet.
Having been hit by a car 4x now, I think road safety. But I left the rattle cage MIPS behind just as quick as wave cell became available. Try it, you’ll like it. And you’ll leave the rattle cage behind as well.
Jimmy Coffill if you read some actual research you’ll want to strap that rattle cage right back on your head because wave cell is simple not just not as good as mips.
Olof they both actually test out neck and neck. One advantage, for me is the wave cell doesn’t creak and rattle. Virginia Tech 2018 rates both mips and wave cell at 5 stars.
Wear a helmet. I had a concussion from snowboarding and I had mild amnesia for hours afterwards. I could not remember anything someone said to me 15-20 seconds later. Scary stuff, and I wouldn't have had that if I wore a dang helmet. Don't be a fool like I was
You rarely fall ON your head - think ice skater, where the body hits the ice first and the head whips back or down to crack into the ice a split-second later. Similarly there's no horizontal, travelling-speed component to the tests, just the vertical fall. "Rarely" is not the same as never & cycling (like skiing) is a balance sport - you wouldn't expect to get good at skiing without falling a fair few times. So, if you've never done martial arts or tumbling of some sort or are generally awkward about hitting the floor, get some pointers.
slowerandolder no matter how much “falling practice” you get your head remains attached to your body which is a rather big anchor and does play part into how your head moves when you fall or when you get hit by a car. There’s a lot more to these accidents that need to be accounted for, but every improvement helps
POC where among the first ones who used it - presumably for skiing. But they did not invent the system. They now have moved to a comparable "self invented" system. Maybe it is to avoid royalties? All of these systems are about rotational motion - and any system claims to be best.
What I don’t understand is that the MIPS test drops the head on the top side of the helmet, do they simulate any other sort of crash scenario? When I’ve crashed, I’ve fallen sideways sliding out on a turn and hit the side of my head in what felt like a bounce off the ground while coming to a stop on the road.
What I don't understand is the helmet testing with a Mannequin head only. That does not reflect real life impact, considering you have a 185 lb flesh vehicle below your head and neck. This fact changes the forces applied to your brain and neck. 🤦🏻♂️
I had a bad accedent 20 years ago i was ripping a stand up wheelie like i always do my bike fliped out and i landed on the back of my head on the left side it shatterd my helmet i woke up in hospital wth a neck brace on if i wasnt wearing a helmet id be dead or worse a vegie they didnt have this technology back then i wish they did my neck is still bad from that accedent
Seeing a lot of doubters in here. Seems pretty dumb to me to not buy a MIPS helmet when you can get one for $40. Either it works, and you might save your quality of life, or it doesn’t work, and nothing would have worked anyway.
The test head model they use does not properly account for skin being able to slide/wiggle a short distance over the skull freely. We essentially have a MIPS-like system by nature in our anatomy and they are testing as if we don't.
When the snow globe is dropped downward in the direction of gravity I think it's just as strong, but it is down so you don't see the snow go further down. Even though there is a force there. When it's on the side the snow is moved off gravity so it moves. I think it's the same force. I think MIPS is a fallacy. A slider outside the head cannot stop the brain from moving in any direction. To the side or straight down. The reason the boxer might go down is cause he just got 3 whacks. A sideward punch probably alters his balance or he simply didn't see the punch coming and wasn't putting arms up. . SIDE OR STRAIGHT - THE FORCE IS THE SAME. As the skull completely encases the brain. With a side hit there's still part of the brain that hits the skull perpendicular. I think it's a brain illusion. I think the brain is moving in a multitude of directions at the same time. Due to gravity, head turning, cycling, a fall of any direction, or spinning and rolling like a diver. And what about what the heads hits. It may not be straight and flat, as we saw this week. Pro cyclistis crashing into each other and storm sewers. Every hit is different and in a different direction. I think a helmet can protect the outside of the head, but it can't affect the brains twisting and turning.
Dover Ben thanks for your comment. Too much today is over thought. The digital era has brought in too many experts. That are simply not backed up. Just ideas of what might happen. I've been thinking more about it. And I think with every crash, car, bicycle, walking, hockey, you name it. The head will head from a different direction. They were counting on every hit being the same. Which I think is not rational at all.
MIPS is good if you have no hair. If you do have hair, your hair acts as natural MIPS that slides the helmet slightly. Take note that the head samples they use all have no hairs.
5:16 not a good exemple... Boxers get knocked out because the side of the jaw is directly connected to the brain, not really because of the rotation. (and what he's showing is not an uppercut but a hook)
I never liked the look or idea of MIPS. Looks so rudimentary and uncomfortable 🥵 I understand the premises of what it does but that’s why I went with POC’s SPIN systems technology. Same premise but absolutely comfortable and invisible to the feel
Jason Hamelin when I was trying them I didn’t like the added feel (specialized, bell, kask) and I found that there was an added scratching sound and then it dawned on me why do I want a added hard plastic when POC’s SPIN is a padding system to create the shift in the helmet and not to mention washable and replaceable if it begins to wear down not having to replace an entire helmet
I was hit by a pick-up truck last week when it pulled out in front of me. I was doing about 25 mph when my head bounced off the hood/bonnet. I was wearing my MIPS helmet and had no head injury! I'm not saying that no other helmet would have protected me but it does work!
I fell mountain biking broke helmet and did not have any head injury, mine had mips too, so it might have something to do with it
@@crisgarcia1384 caught an edge on grass while initiating a left turn { super late season} &my downhill ski just pushed out faster then i could have believed . Instantly Flat spun me 180. vertical head fall at least 10 feet.
Broke the MIPSin the helmet but that would have been a HUGE injury. I am glad to see that the people behind the patent have licensed to to basically all manufacturers. Its too big of an improvement in safety to keep to
About 21 years ago I had a head on with a car at speed. Wrote off the bike and cost thousands of damage to the car. I hit the windshield head on with my head shattering the windshield and helmet, flipped over the top and end up in a ditch unconscious. Probably exactly same impact as shown in tests here. Ambulance arrived and carried me off to hospital. After a number of tests etc I was released with just lots of cuts, bruises, 13 stitches in my leg and bad whiplash/neck pain. No MIPS obviously back then. Was I lucky? Have a hard head? Who knows. But this new tech is proven to give you a ‘greater chance’ of surviving so why wouldn’t you use it?
@@russellscott1151 Dutch people think they dont need helmets some dont even know the benefits of normal helmets. Had already several discussions with such guys....dont know why some people dont even know that you can actualy have hard injuries or even die if you fall to the floor just while standing not even talking about habing speed on a bicylce.
He Just Said you cant see the mild concussive effects lol so yiu couldnt measure it. Thats not evidence that it works, the idea is very good tho
Last April I had a high speed crash with multiple rotational impacts while wearing a MIPS helmet. Every part of my body sustained injuries except for my feet and head. I was checked by the emergency room staff and did not receive a concussion or worse. In fact I didn’t even have headache. It’s my belief that the quality MIPS helmet I had made a difference.
james witte nope....
I’m certainly not going to test that theory.
@@chinboy66 You are trolling, here. "Nope" is not credible evidence to dispute James' experience with the product.
@@chinboy66 lol you want to wear motorcycle helmet?
What helmet?
As someone with a TBI, I truly appreciate every effort made to make sure no one else has to live with a TBI. And MIPS is a great step forward for cyclists and maybe horse riding.
Line B except that it’s not...
Sorry for your injury..
@@chinboy66 it's better than what is available here. And anything that can get people to use helmets, I'm absolutely for.
@@chinboy66 your say-so doesn't make it so. Evidence?
@@CarlForde just a troll
Bought a new MIPS helmet this week. I'm surprised even many cheaper helmets had MIPS. I think it'll eventually become standard on most helmets...at least until the next technology.
Interesting video, I crashed 18 months ago, in a helmet without MIPS and I am still dealing with the repercussions of TBI. After the broken bones healed, first thing I did was get a MIPS helmet!
Lisa Graham which sadly will not protect your head any better than your old one.
Sorry to hear about your injury
@@chinboy66 Well, I have to disagree with you on that, but I am not willing to crash headfirst into a barrier to find out.
@@chinboy66 You do not know that.
@@pjgarcia2417 The tech presupposes you wear your helmet synched tight to your head. All it does is allow a small amount of movement to lengthen the moment of inertia. The same thing can be done on non-yellow helmets for free by wearing it just a tad loose. It will move the same way these MiPs helmets move.
I am appreciative of the MIPS system. I sustained a MBI from being hit by a car. MIPS did its job. About 30% of the foam was cracked, a small section of the plastic covering the foam cracked. The helmet was dented onmthe top and where the 30% cracked foam was the covering plastic wasmdeformed. Mymfoncussion has extended past the 3 month mark.
I can't ridemir drive a car yet,. I bought a new helmet today with MIPS. Thankyou.
"Tearing of the brain tissue" is one of the most disturbing combinations of words I've heard this decade.
Very interesting! In the beautiful slow-mo shot at 15:34, using the keyboard keys you can see that the helmet deforms on impact while the head keeps moving forward because of the structural separation between the outer portion of the helmet and the head. I don't know if the rotational energy causing concussions thing is true, but by designing the system to absorb rotational energy as well as direct energy, the system is absorbing more of the total impact energy, thus lowering the total energy going into the brain.
Took a crash on a dh bike at about 35kmph recently and had a side rotation impact from a tree, I was mildly concussed but I genuinely Believe this stopped me getting a severe concussion. Well worth the money
A very important subject covered really well by Chris. Well done 👍 only thing that spoilt it was 3 adverts in 15mins and a 4th at the end. That's a bit much.
Brill investigative journalism Chris! We need more of this info on head safety..
Asking a company to talk about their product is hardly investigative journalism, lol.
This is basically an ad. A great, informative, ad though. Good video, for sure.
Definitely not investigative journalism though, for sure. :)
Really interesting! Glad I went for the MIPS option when I bought my last helmet
what helmet did u get? im looking for a mips helmet but cant find any!
@@gdr17racing51 Most Giro, Bell and Specialized helmets either come in a MIPS verison or have it as a standard. There's probably more brands that have MIPS but these are the ones i know of for sure. POC apparently has their own "knock off" MIPS technology. I personally have the Bell Stratus.
i bought a Giant Rev Comp MIPS helmet a month ago and i wondering what MIPS means, so that's the reason it brought me here. thanks for this information.
I'm not a pro cyclist so I value helmet safety very highly. Its actually my priority when it comes to choosing a helmet. Ill be looking out for MIPS on my next helmet
Like Chris, I picked my helmets by look and feel but if the MIPS helps then all the better. I think I have one MIPS helmet and 2 non MIPS. I wear them equally as much.
SkidLid was selling this in 70's. CPSC (US Consumer Product Safety), Snell Foundation (independent helmet testing), and Bell (helmet manufacture) put them outa business. And SkidLid was a classic undercapitalized, family-run, labor of love. 50 years of unnecessary head injury.
For those unaware, Virginia Tech tests helmets of all kinds and rates them independently so it’s worth checking them out when shopping for a new helmet.
Mips go to the tour was sees
My new helmet has this and I wondered about the theory. Good to know. Makes me laugh at the reviews for the helmet though, more than a few complained about the cheap plastic liner and pulled it out.
Yes, most of us don't think about the specifics of rotational motion or how a helmet actually works... until we experience it first hand. I survived a crash (my first and only so far!) this summer because of my MIPS helmet. Cracked a couple of vertebrae and the first rib, which shows how much force there was. But no concussion = freaking amazing! It was $30 more for the MIPS version of the helmet - a no-brainer (pun intended).
If you have hair on your head you already have free slip plane technology
Same here, I landed head first and fractured a vertebrae - but no concussion. So glad I had a MIPS helmet. Hope you have recovered well!
Just got a MIPS helmet too!
Glad to hear you avoided brain injury!
Loved the pun, by the way :).
As someone who snowboards and frequently uses a Surron, along with many other extreme sports, MIPS is a 100% must have. Along with some other impact protection technologies like Wavecel safety is becoming better and better. Although the price may jump up that’s all worth it when you think of it as how much do you value your own brain. Great video showing what goes into the tech.
i was doing a dh run on a trail near mine and didnt realise a branch has droped down lower on a tree and i went straight in to it but thankgod helmet hit and took the impact and i was fine as mips took care of it i recommend mips 100% saved me serious injuries to head for sure
Hans is in the right profession.
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I see what you did there, good Sir 😁👍
@@86Hasse He didn't do it, it's a device that has been used in motorsport for years now.
Retired engineer here. Very interesting thanks very much.
More information about the following would have made it even more interesting.
1. A clearer explanation about how MIPS works. Are there two parts to the helmet, an inner part 'fixed' to the head and an outer part, the shell, which slips over the inner part to dissipate rotational impact forces?
2. Analysis of the comparison of test results for helemets with and without MIPS.
3. Discussion about ...does the fact that the test head is not connected to a body make any difference to the effectivness of MIPS? Here I'm thinking.... on the one hand the test head and helmit bounce off the anvil into the air, which dissipates impact energy.... and .... and on the other hand, IF the test head and helmet were connected to a body they could not bounce off the anvil into the air, THEN where would the energy thats dissipated by 'bouncing off the anvil into the air' go? Would it go to the head and be dissipated there or what?
Congrats, an educational video that I found very interesting.
So, should mips eqquiped helmets be freely rotating "10-15mm" while wearing it? Or should it be tight and barely moving like there's no mips at all?
Because I think the biggest problem here is helmet sizing. For example, 59cm head size falls between a large and medium size. With a medium size, the mips helmet barely moves(kinda defeats the purpose of mips) but with a large size helmet, properly fitted, the mips "motion" is very noticeable.
Although this is a great informative video, it didn't even tackle sizing and proper fitting of mips eqquiped helmets to properly take advantage of the new technology.
There is an internal "cage" with adjustable fit via a ratcheting wheel on the back of the helmet. This cage is suspended by the mips system which isolates your head from an impact on the external helmet shell. So basically when you have the helmet on, the internal cage remains tight on your head but you can move the shell of the helmet slightly. You would choose a mips helmet size like any other helmet.
@@JulitoPapitoo I think you missed the whole essence of my comment. It's the sizing of the helmet that makes this technology a hit or miss. Yes, the ratcheting wheel can make your helmet fit better, but the outer shell still remains big if the consumer falls in-between sizes. My example was a 59cm head size which generally falls between a large and a medium sized helmet. The difference in the size of the shell is very substantial between large and medium. So, even if you tighten the ratchet wheel (on a large helmet), the mips cage is secured but the shell moves too much. And if you do decide to go down a size (medium), then the shell plus mips cage sits/rests on your head. As a result, the cage has very little to no allowance to move. Or worse, it actually moves with the shell itself (which then becomes a traditional non-mips helmet). This "slight" movement that you've mentioned actually has a range in millimeters according to MIPS. So, you can't just say pick a helmet size and see if it moves "slightly".
Just got a Giro Register for $52 shipped, this really helped me in my purchasing decision, thanks!!
I had never heard of this system until today. I'm looking at getting an E-bike, so I was looking at helmets. I will definitely only buy a helmet with the MIPS system in it. I work in Radiology, so I see a lot of head injuries.
It's worth it, for sure! Better to be safe, for sure :)
watching this while wearing my mips helmet
Rotational motion in head trauma causes what is called diffuse axonal injury, or DAI, which is when the axonal fibers of the neurons are sheered off because of the rotational motion. This is because the gray matter, where the brain cells are located and the white matter, where the axon fibers are located, have slightly different physical propertiers so that a sudden rotational acceleration cause the two layers to accelerate/decelerate at different speeds resulting in a sheering force between the two layers. This causes the axons to sheer off from the neuron bodies.
This is different from a direct blow to the brain, which simply contuses, or bruises the brain at the surface
I've also just thought - high end expensive helmet = safe. Am literally ordering a MIPS equipped helmet now. Fantastic video. Thanks team :-)
Helmet companies love people like you
Lots of cheaper helmets come equipped with mips as well
Cool, now I know what to look for in my next helmet
I wonder how quick the anti-helmet crew would change their mind once they smash their head on the road!
I think they have already fell without helmet and the aftermath caused their bad decision making
I don't care if that crowd doesn't wear a helmet, but what is with the propaganda from them to discourage helmet use by others?
The "anti-helmet crew" won't be thinking anything if they end up as vegetables. You can never have too much protection for your one and only brain.
I'm pretty sure their mind is changed at the moment of impact, usually for the worse.
😂changed mine instantly
Interesting video, just had to buy a new helmet after a crash which smashed it up and it's a no-brainer (sorry) to get one with mips as the price differential isn't that great anymore and it's available on helmets lower down the range. My question is what's the difference between the MIPS system and having a cap on underneath (or indeed lots of hair)? Wouldn't both of those things also allow the head to move independently of the helmet in a similar way?
This tripped me out, I swear I have watched this before
You've also written the same comment before.
5:00 "never heard of rotational motion".
Such a great idea/design
The final example with the snow globe is a very bad one: the snow does not move when dropping down because it's all at the bottom already. Instead, the brain is not all on one side of the skull.
In a lot of test there is no difference between MIPS and non-MIPS helmets. Some helmets without MIPS have even better test values in rotational motion tests than MIPS helmets.
Sounds nice it also will reduce the rotation for to the rest of your body like the neck.
Funny, I have been cycling for 40 yrs, it is my main transport, only been hit by cars twice in all that time in quite a minor way without head injury thank God, and I see a lot of dangerous driving and idiot motorists (not indicating, speeding in residential areas, speeding across roundabouts etc) but am never that nervous about cycling, but just watching a few seconds of video with a crash test human head and hearing people talking about severe head injuries, makes me a lot more nervous, something disturbing about the imagery...and I guess is a reality check about how dangerous it is to be a cyclist in a motorized vehicle dominated society and transport infrastructure.
MIPS is good. Why not talk about helmets that meet the NTA-8776 standard?
Isn't this a re post
Ethan Hogrider they are a green channel after all, they recycle content
Just bought a MIPS helmet. My safety and health is the priority.
Only recently come across MIPS and find the tech very interesting. I’ve had a number of severe cranial injuries in my time, only two involving cycles. But both of those involved having the cycle & me being flung into the air and one involved being partially run over by a hit+run car, with me thrown over a bridge’s parapet. I could’ve done with something to reduce both head injuries. (Mind one could’ve been helped, if the driver hadn’t left me hanging off a bridge, while I bled onto the dual carriageway below.) Never did find the driver .
But MIPS, yes. I’m just about to renew my chainsaw helmet. And only one forestry helmet, has MIPS protection built-in as standard.
Wow, GCN this must be a first. This really good video with Chris was uploaded and I enjoyed it very much a couple of weeks ago but when I heard it mentioned on the GCN Show I thought that it was a mistake but no.... what happened here? Loved Opie and this subject but do we really need it twice in a month or has someone in the GCN offices maybe got concusion?! 😜
Wasnt this uploaded a couple of weeks back?
I just had the same thought 😅
The video was edited to better represent the theory behind MIPS.
Excelent! I'm acquired one Specialized MIPS! I love your shoes man! So Beaultiful hahaha Is a one Oakley Model?
Recently bought and then returned a MIPS helmet that I very much wanted, because it was the wrong size and didn't fit properly. I had assumed that S, M & L nomenclature was a standard among brands, and didn't even try it on when I purchased it. In one brand I am "Large" and in the other I am a "Small." Must go by mm size only! Now I have a non-MIPS helmet that fits properly. I think it's a great advancement and will purchase one in the future, I expect. I wonder if a non-MIPS interior system that allows some movement is advantageous, if not quite as much so.
I just bought a MIPS helmet from Bell. My previous Bell was not a MIPS. Same size helmet (medium) and supposedly I am 3cm under the upper size rating. The MIPS one fits a lot more snug, almost too snug. I usually wear a casquette and probably should have gone up a size.
I have seen this episode already. Then I wanted to rewatch it but couldn't find it, until now.
I just bought a new helmet. I did not and would not consider any helmet without a MIPS system. I had an accident some years ago where my helmet saved my life. I sent pictures of the broken helmet to the manufacturer and their reaction was "And you lived!". So, I suggest always wearing a helmet, specifically one with MIPS.
I am a bit late to the party but…. The tests are done with a ~5kg head, what about the 60+ kg of the rest of the body that are coming along for the crash? Don’t it matter? Won’t it change the dynamic of the forces playing in the Mips system? Is the Mips still as efficient when loaded with a 60kg+ weight? 🤔
Btw, my helmet has this system, because as in everything related to brain damage, better be safe than sorry…
The plastic of the mips reduces the crushing of the EPS foam in a straight on impact, and their test rig has the grippiest grip tape which maximizes the rotation, I wonder how much difference there would be with asphalt and if that would offset the reduction in crushing from the mips plastic 🤔
Sweden is known for its quality products 👍😊
yay sweden! finally GCN representing [mai peepel]
surely the mass of the brain relative to the skull can be known as well as the distance from skull to brain as it floats in the protective fluid , therefore we can calculate accurately how far said brain will bounce around. the goal is to create an isolate gyroscope for the head ( and ultimately the brain ) to ride inside of as it collides with another mass, moving or not.
considering the skull is connected to the spine and upper body, a full skeletal model inside a mold would need to be implanted with millions of microchips and then subjected to countless real world inertia tests at all possible speeds and angles
then we would have a truly perfect as possible helmet
basically antigravity helmet :D
Great video guys! 👍🏻
Pretty interesting thanks !
I had a crash. Fell on the side of the head. Broke my cheap Decathlon helmet. I didn't a headache. I doesn't prove a thing. :)
Super good video
This is the most interesting video I have seen this week on YT and I'm not even searched for it. 🤪 I will definitely buy a new helmet. Is the helmet comfort the same with mips?
Depends who you buy it from
This helmet is super comfortable !!!! 👌
This should be a standard in all helmets.
18 Minutes of something I can explain my 7 Year old niece in 8 Seconds and she understands it. JESUS CRIST....
Note to self. Don't forget neck exercise
I wear a MIPS helmet on the bike and in the car. I am told that the chance of serious injury is greater whilst driving than cycling.
best case scenario, just head weight. Add the extra 150 lbs body weight for the average American and you will find the angular/linear shock absorptive capability ALREADY maxed out. The tail end of the acceleration will show a spike when the end of the mips track is reached. (Mechanically this means that the mips is already at the end of its rotational limited track.) The frictional track of the mips may have to be increased in proportion to the increased several times weight to allow as linear vs time angular mometum decrease. Instead of smooth plastic a higher friction surface and longer track may be more ideal to absorb more energy to prevent the spike. Ex aero space Eng
Great vid, completely agree with what MIPS are doing however, when they test why are they not using a full weighted body not just the head because surely this increases the impact speed, pressure and other aspects such as rotation???
Virginia Tech has done that. Check the link I attached above.
Does somebody recommend a Uvex Ivo cc MIPS or there some other good one ?
About 21 years ago I had a head on with a car at speed. Wrote off the bike and cost thousands of damage to the car. I hit the windshield head on with my head shattering the windshield and helmet, flipped over the top and end up in a ditch unconscious. Probably exactly same impact as shown in tests here. Ambulance arrived and carried me off to hospital. After a number of tests etc I was released with just lots of cuts, bruises, 13 stitches in my leg and bad whiplash/neck pain. No MIPS obviously back then. Was I lucky? Have a hard head? Who knows. But this new tech is proven to give you a ‘greater chance’ of surviving so why wouldn’t you use it?
I though Si and Dan were drunk at the end of the last GCN Show when they said that this video was coming out this week..but no, the whole GCN HQ is drunk! 😂
And if this were next door in Finland, the script would be "There's even another really cool room to go to after massage - the hot sauna and freezing cold plunge pool!"
Maybe MIPS felt they didnt get enough for their money by showing this only once..
@@SwazersC, who cares is right, but it's not just about saving lives. It's about preventing a concussion, even a mild one. Both my helmets are Mips.
I recently came off my bike at speed & my head along with the rest of my body was hurled into a cattle grid af full force. My Giro MIPS helmet saved my life without a shadow of a doubt. If I had not been wearing my helmet the right side & temple region of my head would have impacted into the cattle grid. I was badly bruised around my ribs, arms & legs. They are now healed. Please guys, Always wear a MIPS helmet.
I’m planning to buy a new helmet which is the fox speed frame 🪖 I’m not sure which one to get the regular non mips or with mips 🤯
I’d defiantly go for mips! Lots of extra benefits even though it costs a bit more.
I appreciate that you commented and sharedyour opinion. I’ve just ordered mine the wurd blue color mips
Having been hit by a car 4x now, I think road safety. But I left the rattle cage MIPS behind just as quick as wave cell became available. Try it, you’ll like it. And you’ll leave the rattle cage behind as well.
Jimmy Coffill if you read some actual research you’ll want to strap that rattle cage right back on your head because wave cell is simple not just not as good as mips.
Olof they both actually test out neck and neck. One advantage, for me is the wave cell doesn’t creak and rattle. Virginia Tech 2018 rates both mips and wave cell at 5 stars.
Wear a helmet. I had a concussion from snowboarding and I had mild amnesia for hours afterwards. I could not remember anything someone said to me 15-20 seconds later. Scary stuff, and I wouldn't have had that if I wore a dang helmet. Don't be a fool like I was
I crashed before without mips but I think I'm completely fine.
I crashed before without mips but I think I'm completely fine
underrated comment 😆
It's great but as we know never good enough 🙂 great that they are pushing it on 🙂
But what about the effect of your head actually being attached to your body?
You rarely fall ON your head - think ice skater, where the body hits the ice first and the head whips back or down to crack into the ice a split-second later. Similarly there's no horizontal, travelling-speed component to the tests, just the vertical fall. "Rarely" is not the same as never & cycling (like skiing) is a balance sport - you wouldn't expect to get good at skiing without falling a fair few times. So, if you've never done martial arts or tumbling of some sort or are generally awkward about hitting the floor, get some pointers.
slowerandolder no matter how much “falling practice” you get your head remains attached to your body which is a rather big anchor and does play part into how your head moves when you fall or when you get hit by a car. There’s a lot more to these accidents that need to be accounted for, but every improvement helps
Fucking hell, is this what deja vu is?
I'm wearing my MIPS helmet over the old one, even though it's 100 grams heavier
I definitely will always buy a helmet with MIPS. Governments should make this a mandatory requirement when making helmets.
3 years later and they're still not cheaper...
Was mips designed by POC? And what is the difference between SPIN and MIPS
POC where among the first ones who used it - presumably for skiing. But they did not invent the system. They now have moved to a comparable "self invented" system. Maybe it is to avoid royalties? All of these systems are about rotational motion - and any system claims to be best.
What I don’t understand is that the MIPS test drops the head on the top side of the helmet, do they simulate any other sort of crash scenario? When I’ve crashed, I’ve fallen sideways sliding out on a turn and hit the side of my head in what felt like a bounce off the ground while coming to a stop on the road.
It slided in all directions.
Wasn’t that a visit to POC also in Sweden
I think I've seen it before...
No side impact tests… So, who falls on TOP of their head?
If concussion is a general term does that mean the scientific term is “shaking the brain to shit inside the skull”? Lol
@1:15
What I don't understand is the helmet testing with a Mannequin head only.
That does not reflect real life impact, considering you have a 185 lb flesh vehicle below your head and neck. This fact changes the forces applied to your brain and neck. 🤦🏻♂️
I had a bad accedent 20 years ago i was ripping a stand up wheelie like i always do my bike fliped out and i landed on the back of my head on the left side it shatterd my helmet i woke up in hospital wth a neck brace on if i wasnt wearing a helmet id be dead or worse a vegie they didnt have this technology back then i wish they did my neck is still bad from that accedent
Seeing a lot of doubters in here. Seems pretty dumb to me to not buy a MIPS helmet when you can get one for $40. Either it works, and you might save your quality of life, or it doesn’t work, and nothing would have worked anyway.
The test head model they use does not properly account for skin being able to slide/wiggle a short distance over the skull freely. We essentially have a MIPS-like system by nature in our anatomy and they are testing as if we don't.
I had mips on my ski helmet and I still got knocked out cold and split my helmet in half 😂might not be here if I didn’t have a helmet on though.
Adjustable
When the snow globe is dropped downward in the direction of gravity I think it's just as strong, but it is down so you don't see the snow go further down. Even though there is a force there. When it's on the side the snow is moved off gravity so it moves. I think it's the same force. I think MIPS is a fallacy. A slider outside the head cannot stop the brain from moving in any direction. To the side or straight down. The reason the boxer might go down is cause he just got 3 whacks. A sideward punch probably alters his balance or he simply didn't see the punch coming and wasn't putting arms up. . SIDE OR STRAIGHT - THE FORCE IS THE SAME. As the skull completely encases the brain. With a side hit there's still part of the brain that hits the skull perpendicular. I think it's a brain illusion. I think the brain is moving in a multitude of directions at the same time. Due to gravity, head turning, cycling, a fall of any direction, or spinning and rolling like a diver. And what about what the heads hits. It may not be straight and flat, as we saw this week. Pro cyclistis crashing into each other and storm sewers. Every hit is different and in a different direction. I think a helmet can protect the outside of the head, but it can't affect the brains twisting and turning.
Hugo Brown the brain doesn’t twist and turn. It just gets slammed against the skull. You are right to be cynical
Dover Ben thanks for your comment. Too much today is over thought. The digital era has brought in too many experts. That are simply not backed up. Just ideas of what might happen. I've been thinking more about it. And I think with every crash, car, bicycle, walking, hockey, you name it. The head will head from a different direction. They were counting on every hit being the same. Which I think is not rational at all.
MIPS is good if you have no hair. If you do have hair, your hair acts as natural MIPS that slides the helmet slightly. Take note that the head samples they use all have no hairs.
I dont think most people who fall of their bikes land on the top of the head :DDDD
5:16 not a good exemple... Boxers get knocked out because the side of the jaw is directly connected to the brain, not really because of the rotation. (and what he's showing is not an uppercut but a hook)
I never liked the look or idea of MIPS. Looks so rudimentary and uncomfortable 🥵 I understand the premises of what it does but that’s why I went with POC’s SPIN systems technology. Same premise but absolutely comfortable and invisible to the feel
You dont feel MIPS when its on your head...
Jason Hamelin when I was trying them I didn’t like the added feel (specialized, bell, kask) and I found that there was an added scratching sound and then it dawned on me why do I want a added hard plastic when POC’s SPIN is a padding system to create the shift in the helmet and not to mention washable and replaceable if it begins to wear down not having to replace an entire helmet