I lived most of my life in Kitchener, born and raised. My brother got to meet and chat with Moe Norman. 15 years later I'm learning his technique. Small world.
Coming back to this video 1 year later, and currently struggling with the "lefts". What's been killing me is that lateral shifting in the take away. The concepts in this lesson are the absolute foundation of getting the rotational aspects correct. Thanks for this great archive for refreshing the fundamentals.
I needed this video. I have been doing exactly what Brock described with the lateral shift resulting in an over the top creating a slice or a straight pull left. I will focus on position 1 drills.
hi Todd ive been using the single plane swing and im playing consisting golf i play twice a week and im gaining so much confidence keeping the ball in the fairway with distance thx
I bought this training aid. Its one of your best training ideas. I was pretty good at not hitting my body on the takeaway. The club end never facing my body. However i was surprised to see that on my follow through i was hitting my front side - breaking down my front side. I easily practiced the change and then incorporated that into my swing. This product is one if your best ideas. I use it with the foot board. The final pieces of the puzzle. Super idea Todd thanks. Money well spent.
Great video. Traditional swing I definitely had the lateral slide which resulted in a pull fade. Since switching to single plane 2 years ago, my bad misses are pulls likely due to the same lateral slide. Time to get the video cameral out now that we are thawed out here in Maine. Thanks for all the instruction @toddgraves. Great stuff.
Thanks again for another great video! I am still working on the takeaway move myself, just watched the takeaway video from Trent and coincidentally noticed this when I came on RUclips. Off to the range!
Dear Mr Graves, these videos are very damaging, Today I went with my 14 year old son to the driving range. We proceeded to do his lesson. I tried to correct him when he stated to me , That's not how Moe does it. He proceeds to hit a 270 hard drive. 5 people were watching We all had our mouths open. When he did the same thing 5 more times. He has only been playing golf for 3 months. The damaging part is that now I have to get him a better set of clubs because the ones he has are not at his level of play anymore. Thank you for keeping Moe in our life.
Bonjour (depuis la France)Todd, merci pour cette magnifique vidéo, seulement je ne comprends pas l’anglais et c’est essentiel pour comprendre la sensation. J’aimerais tellement pouvoir passer une journée avec vous car je sais que ce type de swing est mon allié. J’ai toujours swingué en allant vers l’avant et jamais vers le haut (ça fait mal au dos !). J’essaie de travailler mon swing avec les exercices que vous proposez, seulement je ne suis pas sûr de ma posture ainsi que le grip, je suis très heureux de swinguer de cette manière et de plus ça rend hommage à Monsieur Norman. Passez une très belle journée et merci pour vos vidéos. Bonjour (from France)Todd, thank you for this wonderful video, only I don't understand English and it is essential to understand the feeling. I wish I could spend a day with you because I know that this type of swing is my ally. I have always swung forward and never up (it hurts my back!). I'm trying to work on my swing with the exercises you suggest, only I'm not sure of my posture as well as the grip, I'm very happy to swing this way and moreover it pays tribute to Mr Norman. Have a great day and thanks for your videos. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Bonjour, vous saviez qu'il est possible sur RUclips d'activer des sous-titres et d'y changer la langue ? Voir CC dans le vidéo et ensuite paramètre, traduction instantannée c'est assez efficace !
Hi Todd, firstly I love your videos!! Great content. I am trying this method myself having after 3 years still not having my own swing. I tend to change my swing as soon as I hit a bad shot!! Do you know any instructors in the UK? I can't seem to find any. Thanks again Todd
Great content guys. I'm Working on this, one problem I'm having is swinging around my body a bit too much, but it's coming. I notice a product of this swing is a much straighter follow through, the clubface stays squarer for longer, and it even looks like it pushes outward of the target line. I'd this something you conscious practice and do you have a video for your follow through?
I notice with Moe that his head/eyes are (looking) straight down past the right knee and his gaze seems fixed on the spot where the club is grounded behind the ball at address. I worked on that today at the range throughout about the last 100 balls. Even to the extent that I often did not even look at the ball. I was able to hit fairway woods about 1.5 to 10-12 degrees of my directional target flag 165 yds. out as the ball passed by that distance point. I hit the pole on a low screaming-rising line drive. In fact I have hit the pole 4 of the last 5 days. Last week I hit the 220 pole on one hop. Not allowing your right jaw line and ear to move even slightly towards the ground has a positive impact on not forcing your shoulders and pelvis to tip upwards. Similar to baseball, keeping the position of the head correctly aligned and just ever so slightly tucking the chin downward at impact is beneficial....Years ago MLB tracked the head movement of the hitters. The best hitters , of course, had the least head movement. That year they also noticed that Albert Bell had the least eye movement. I believe he led the AL hitting .355 that year. The question I have for Todd is are you looking straight down at the club's grounding spot, or allowing your eyes to glance at the back of the ball as the club head passes by the back foot to impact? Thoughts-comments? (Todd you move your chin forward-left just ever so slightly more than Moe.)
Just for interest sake,how tall is Brock? I am 5'7 with short legs and I sometimes wonder if that can create a little more of a challenge. From what I hear in this video, Brock was struggling with the exact same things I was with the lead knee moving forward instead of stepping in into your shoe so to speak with the lead foot.
I just stop my membership with Graves Golf after attending two Premier School. I was getting the hang of the single plane swing, but when I sent in videos, I got no respond. Still interested if I could hear from someone.
HI John. This is something I consistently work on. I like my trail leg to be solid and straight but not locked out. This lets me rotate my hips and keep the pressure on the inside of the leg and towards my heel (in the backswing). IF I bend it too much, which I sometimes do, the weight moves laterally. So try to keep it straight in the backswing without locking it out. Then it must bend in the downswing as you sit and turn the body. Does that make sense?
Every single axis player I played with sliced or faded the ball when they hit well. I would say I played with at least 10. I have been back and forward between conventional and SA. I settled in what I called a middle SA swing. Not Conventional but more SA but not quite. That's worked out well for me.
The natural movement of the body shallows the club because it is moving with the tilt the body and natural rotation of the arms. "Shallowing" is just another conventional term for the ideal movement of the golf club.
When you said "it's to the outside" I could see it immediately. If you have the imagination, you can see the arc formation that is happening. Get the first 3 ft back of the backswing... and get it the same every time and BAM. You're set to get good at alignment and aiming naturally!
because you need rotation in the backswing to produce rotational speed. If you set the legs at address (like impact) you will be rotated too far open and you would actually rotate more in the backswing than necessary.
@@ToddGravesGolf I was thinking mainly about flex and less about rotation. I can tell you this Todd, I have NEVER hit so many straight, solid shots in my life as in the past 3 or 4 days since adopting this swing. It is awesome!! Thanks so much!!
@@ToddGravesGolf The legs are so different with Moe's swing versus conventional. My old swing was flexed legs at address, to flex trail leg at impact and straight lead leg at impact. Post up, as the instructors say. I just wish I had found out about this before I spent 3 years trying to learn the rotary swing with varying results, sometimes good, sometimes not. Always inconsistent. I'm here to stay. 🙂
I see. These videos are fantastic, thanks for sharing. When I was a junior golfer at a course here in Ontario not far from Kitchener I was supposed to caddy for Moe Norman the yearly pro-am, however Moe was not able to make it. I never knew what Moe was all about until about 20 years ago later. It appears you were one of the few people Moe let into his inner circle. What an honour it must have been for you.
How this channel does not have over 100,000 subscribers is beyond me.
I lived most of my life in Kitchener, born and raised. My brother got to meet and chat with Moe Norman. 15 years later I'm learning his technique. Small world.
Coming back to this video 1 year later, and currently struggling with the "lefts".
What's been killing me is that lateral shifting in the take away.
The concepts in this lesson are the absolute foundation of getting the rotational aspects correct.
Thanks for this great archive for refreshing the fundamentals.
I needed this video. I have been doing exactly what Brock described with the lateral shift resulting in an over the top creating a slice or a straight pull left. I will focus on position 1 drills.
hi Todd ive been using the single plane swing and im playing consisting golf i play twice a week
and im gaining so much confidence keeping the ball in the fairway with distance thx
I bought this training aid. Its one of your best training ideas. I was pretty good at not hitting my body on the takeaway. The club end never facing my body.
However i was surprised to see that on my follow through i was hitting my front side - breaking down my front side. I easily practiced the change and then incorporated that into my swing.
This product is one if your best ideas. I use it with the foot board.
The final pieces of the puzzle.
Super idea Todd thanks.
Money well spent.
Thank you for explaining lateral shift on downswing to the left is different than the squat helped a lot.
Great video. Traditional swing I definitely had the lateral slide which resulted in a pull fade. Since switching to single plane 2 years ago, my bad misses are pulls likely due to the same lateral slide. Time to get the video cameral out now that we are thawed out here in Maine. Thanks for all the instruction @toddgraves. Great stuff.
This was exactly the video I needed at exactly the right time. Absolutely love it
Glad to hear.
Thanks again for another great video! I am still working on the takeaway move myself, just watched the takeaway video from Trent and coincidentally noticed this when I came on RUclips. Off to the range!
5 ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ 🌟 🌟! Great teaching…simple and clear as usual, Todd!!
Thanks Todd & Brock. I can’t wait for the next video🏌️♂️
Great video, the details you feel helps me.
Happy Thanksgiving to all!!
Back to you, amigo.
Dear Mr Graves, these videos are very damaging, Today I went with my 14 year old son to the driving range. We proceeded to do his lesson. I tried to correct him when he stated to me , That's not how Moe does it. He proceeds to hit a 270 hard drive. 5 people were watching We all had our mouths open. When he did the same thing 5 more times. He has only been playing golf for 3 months. The damaging part is that now I have to get him a better set of clubs because the ones he has are not at his level of play anymore. Thank you for keeping Moe in our life.
So Glad to help your son do damage to the golf ball!
Is he hitting the ball straight 🤔...
Bonjour (depuis la France)Todd, merci pour cette magnifique vidéo, seulement je ne comprends pas l’anglais et c’est essentiel pour comprendre la sensation. J’aimerais tellement pouvoir passer une journée avec vous car je sais que ce type de swing est mon allié. J’ai toujours swingué en allant vers l’avant et jamais vers le haut (ça fait mal au dos !). J’essaie de travailler mon swing avec les exercices que vous proposez, seulement je ne suis pas sûr de ma posture ainsi que le grip, je suis très heureux de swinguer de cette manière et de plus ça rend hommage à Monsieur Norman. Passez une très belle journée et merci pour vos vidéos.
Bonjour (from France)Todd, thank you for this wonderful video, only I don't understand English and it is essential to understand the feeling. I wish I could spend a day with you because I know that this type of swing is my ally. I have always swung forward and never up (it hurts my back!). I'm trying to work on my swing with the exercises you suggest, only I'm not sure of my posture as well as the grip, I'm very happy to swing this way and moreover it pays tribute to Mr Norman. Have a great day and thanks for your videos.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Bonjour, vous saviez qu'il est possible sur RUclips d'activer des sous-titres et d'y changer la langue ? Voir CC dans le vidéo et ensuite paramètre, traduction instantannée c'est assez efficace !
I have to say the best thing about Mo's instruction vids were that he hit balls while talking
What I love about brocks swing is the absolute zero amount of pelvic shift he has in the backswing.
Hi Todd, firstly I love your videos!! Great content. I am trying this method myself having after 3 years still not having my own swing. I tend to change my swing as soon as I hit a bad shot!! Do you know any instructors in the UK? I can't seem to find any. Thanks again Todd
Great video! I fight that lateral shift horribly!
The body away. Doing this single plane takeaway stop my sway
Great content guys. I'm Working on this, one problem I'm having is swinging around my body a bit too much, but it's coming.
I notice a product of this swing is a much straighter follow through, the clubface stays squarer for longer, and it even looks like it pushes outward of the target line. I'd this something you conscious practice and do you have a video for your follow through?
This works, especially when combined with stack and tilt principles.
Great Upload T!
Thx
Great videos. They all but turn the legs, body, and swing the club for you.
Excellent!!!
Played to day 3birdies using moes swing fantastic keep foot on the ground love it
Nice!
Great video. Clear info. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I notice with Moe that his head/eyes are (looking) straight down past the right knee and his gaze seems fixed on the spot where the club is grounded behind the ball at address. I worked on that today at the range throughout about the last 100 balls. Even to the extent that I often did not even look at the ball. I was able to hit fairway woods about 1.5 to 10-12 degrees of my directional target flag 165 yds. out as the ball passed by that distance point. I hit the pole on a low screaming-rising line drive. In fact I have hit the pole 4 of the last 5 days. Last week I hit the 220 pole on one hop. Not allowing your right jaw line and ear to move even slightly towards the ground has a positive impact on not forcing your shoulders and pelvis to tip upwards. Similar to baseball, keeping the position of the head correctly aligned and just ever so slightly tucking the chin downward at impact is beneficial....Years ago MLB tracked the head movement of the hitters. The best hitters , of course, had the least head movement. That year they also noticed that Albert Bell had the least eye movement. I believe he led the AL hitting .355 that year. The question I have for Todd is are you looking straight down at the club's grounding spot, or allowing your eyes to glance at the back of the ball as the club head passes by the back foot to impact? Thoughts-comments? (Todd you move your chin forward-left just ever so slightly more than Moe.)
Great teacher great student dynamite instruction SPS rules brah!!!
Thanks.
I feel related to this guy
Todd, in your schools do you see more students moving their lower body to much or not enough?
Not enough and not correctly.
Is the single plane trainer on sale during the holiday season?
Just for interest sake,how tall is Brock? I am 5'7 with short legs and I sometimes wonder if that can create a little more of a challenge. From what I hear in this video, Brock was struggling with the exact same things I was with the lead knee moving forward instead of stepping in into your shoe so to speak with the lead foot.
It looks as if Brock is setting up with his feet slightly open stance. Id this the reason for the slight fade with the driver?
no.
Curious if you would consider adding Trackman or Foresight data to your videos so we can see speeds, distance, spin etc?
Maybe. I'm not a huge fan of chasing numbers and would rather focus on purity of technique.
I just stop my membership with Graves Golf after attending two Premier School. I was getting the hang of the single plane swing, but when I sent in videos, I got no respond. Still interested if I could hear from someone.
Hi Thomas. I’m concerned about this. Can we chat? Can you email me toddg@gravesgolf.com. Thank you
Awesome. B nukes it!
Is your trail leg straight or slightly bent?
HI John. This is something I consistently work on. I like my trail leg to be solid and straight but not locked out. This lets me rotate my hips and keep the pressure on the inside of the leg and towards my heel (in the backswing). IF I bend it too much, which I sometimes do, the weight moves laterally. So try to keep it straight in the backswing without locking it out. Then it must bend in the downswing as you sit and turn the body. Does that make sense?
Every single axis player I played with sliced or faded the ball when they hit well. I would say I played with at least 10. I have been back and forward between conventional and SA. I settled in what I called a middle SA swing. Not Conventional but more SA but not quite. That's worked out well for me.
That makes no sense. You cant hit it well and fade and slice it.
I thought the purpose of a one plane swing was that it is not necessary yo shallow the club.
The natural movement of the body shallows the club because it is moving with the tilt the body and natural rotation of the arms. "Shallowing" is just another conventional term for the ideal movement of the golf club.
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When you said "it's to the outside" I could see it immediately. If you have the imagination, you can see the arc formation that is happening.
Get the first 3 ft back of the backswing... and get it the same every time and BAM. You're set to get good at alignment and aiming naturally!
Why don't the legs get set to impact at address? Seems like just one less thing to think about...
because you need rotation in the backswing to produce rotational speed. If you set the legs at address (like impact) you will be rotated too far open and you would actually rotate more in the backswing than necessary.
@@ToddGravesGolf I was thinking mainly about flex and less about rotation. I can tell you this Todd, I have NEVER hit so many straight, solid shots in my life as in the past 3 or 4 days since adopting this swing. It is awesome!! Thanks so much!!
@@ToddGravesGolf The legs are so different with Moe's swing versus conventional. My old swing was flexed legs at address, to flex trail leg at impact and straight lead leg at impact. Post up, as the instructors say. I just wish I had found out about this before I spent 3 years trying to learn the rotary swing with varying results, sometimes good, sometimes not. Always inconsistent. I'm here to stay. 🙂
Hard to believe those drives went 300
He hits it very hard. I'm Jealous.
Didn’t Moe say that he didn’t rotate his hips?
@@ColoradoRockies1976 maybe said it but data / and video analysis shows otherwise.
I see. These videos are fantastic, thanks for sharing. When I was a junior golfer at a course here in Ontario not far from Kitchener I was supposed to caddy for Moe Norman the yearly pro-am, however Moe was not able to make it. I never knew what Moe was all about until about 20 years ago later. It appears you were one of the few people Moe let into his inner circle. What an honour it must have been for you.
Don't drop that training aid Brock.
lol.
I found it a bit complicated to ustand and difficult to follow
we can coach you.
video don't lie
Why copy the 3/4 swing of a 70 year old, moes prime turn was a lot deeper....
Depends how old you are . Mechanics are the same Single Plane Mechanics.
Dit you personally get permission to teach Mow Norman swing
Just curious
I own the Moe Norman Brand.