Final Fantasy IX - The Final Battle | Reacting To Video Game Music!
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my favorite instrument, the souls of the damned.
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Neighbor: “Turn down that damn music!!!”
Me: “That damned music you mean”
Nobuo took a tour around Europe to view ancient castles and get inspiration for IX's OST, and this led to him coming back and working 10+ hour days for over a year straight. He poured himself into IX entirely and it shows, its also why he stepped back a bit from this point on and other composers started helping.
That’s so cool! This games ost is my fav ost of all time. Thanks for sharing this. That trip really paid off cause wow this soundtrack is special
You are right this song requires context to understand the uniqueness of it and it's not exactly a melody-driven song, it's carried by the situation that it is used in, you will definitely appreciate it more in-game for sure
The tension in this song and the tension associated with this fight/situation is masterclass. Everything about it is eerie and unnatural. Love it.
Grand fucking Cross.
You know, it's funny that IX had one of the creepiest final boss themes with all the wailing, and the implication of the final boss itself was really dark despite what people may say about Necron, then add the fact the game deals in themes like existentialism, slavery and genocide... And it was supposed to be a "light hearted" take after the "more serious" tones of VII and VIII! lol
That's the weird thing about it, after VII and VIII it seems like a more lighthearted adventure on the surfice but imo it's the darkest of them all since it deals with a ton of deep and heavy stuff
@@HyperGamer14 Yeah it's a really dark game under its lighthearted surface. Especially when you consider the main character is happy go lucky and one of the most lighthearted, open and selfless of the protags in FF, but was in actuality an experiment created to become the 'angel of death' and destroy humanity, essentially.
This song is so awesome. Such an uncomfortable and chaotic song. The final boss feels like you can’t keep up and it’s all like swirly and confusing lol. It’s so good for the mood
As a final boss theme, I really like this one. It evokes the feeling of the scene really well, much like how Dancing Mad does.
I love that you've listened to this after you started playing the game. You saw the start of FFIX, the return to the cute, nice, high fantasy setting, and then you're welcomed to this track by what sounds like the anguished cries of tormented souls.
Then again, I guess this pretty much summarizes JRPG as a genre.
The most misunderstood fight of final fantasy games.
They did the themes much better in endwalker imo
To be fair, it does kind of come out of nowhere.
@Garreth Allen you can see signs if you look closely but if you just casually stroll through, yea it kinda pops up
@@jakemoore5077 I get what they were trying to do and I don’t hate it as much as others, but I do wish they built it up better
@Captainpep like I said I think the theme and concepts were done much better in endwalker
I think there may be some relevance to the fact that Final Fantasy 9 is also a gigantic love letter to the entire franchise up to that point, with names, references, designs, and even music drawn from every game in the series up to this point.
Similarly, this theme strikes such a resemblance to the style of the 8 bit Final Fantasies final boss themes that I actually keep thinking this is Cloud of Darkness's battle theme from FF3. They are not the same song, of course, but in a "guess that song" contest, I am very likely to mix the two up.
(3 3, not 6 3).
Especially the Black Mages version of it.
God i love this song. Badass final boss. Bad ass song. Best FF game of all time.
I was hoping u would hear this in game first lol...but u should hear the black mages version too
Love this theme; the build-up has stayed with me since I first played it as a kid lol
the amount of "unexpected turns" in FFIX is a lot.
This song alone made me want to learn how to play drums.
This is probably my favorite Final Fantasy song ever. I don't know why, but this is all I need to hear on a final boss battle
You should check out a video I'm premiering Saturday April 1st for my top 20 songs of FF9!
I absolutely love the Black Mages version
I still get goosebumps listening to the start of this track. I remember the first time I played FFIX when I was a kid and this final boss came from nowhere! I picked my team...Zidane, Garnet, Amarant and Freya and went to town on this boss! Epic!
Definitely an underrated track among the FF final boss themes, though I think that speaks to the high calibre of them.
I have a little musical conspiracy theory that the little "dah nah" stings from 2:06 are a callback to Clash on the Big Bridge which considering the boss utilizes an infamous move from FFV's final boss (with the alternative name for this track *being* said move), it might not be farfetched.
EDIT: Living up to my comment in twitch chat, here's a loredump about Necron. Necron has nothing explicit about him and has been subject to theories and discussion for 23 years. There's basically 3 general "schools of thought" for "Necron Theory". The first is taking a minimal reach and saying he's symbolic, either of the game's themes or as a more general meta jab at classic JRPGs having surprise final bosses. Another "minimal reach" idea is taking things at face value and saying he's simply just what's left at the end of existence. One of these is almost certainly the truth.
However theories are fun and the two major theories are "Necron is Soulcage" and "Necron is an Eidolon". Starting with "Necron is Soulcage", a lot of people believe Necron is the "back side" of Soulcage and the Iifa Tree that Garland mentions, there's many variations of this theory ranging from "Necron is an omnipotent being Garland brokered a deal with for his soul replacement plan" to "Necron is literally Soulcage given access to the infinite souls of Memoria". Too much to really concisely get into.
"Necron is an Eidolon" is interesting as it is the most backed up by an official source. The 25th Anniverary Ultimania describes Necron as "an entity that responded to Kuja's fear, anguish, and despair", matching what we know of Eidolons in FF9. People go back and forth on whether or not Necron was sealed within the Crystal Kuja destroys or was simply summoned via the Crystal like Alexander. The 25th Anniversary Ultimania also tells us that Hades was originally the final boss and he's part of his own assorted theories including "Hades was a forgotten Eidolon" which ties well into "Ozma is a forgotten Eidolon" which culminates in my personal favorite theory of "Ozma = Hades = Necron". Really though, Necron is such a vague entity that pretty much any interpretation or theory you draw is equally valid (as long as it doesn't directly contradict information we *actually* know).
As much as I love the creepy build-up with the damned souls wailing in the background, I'm glad it eventually picks up to be more of a traditional battle theme when the fight actually starts. I don't think I could endure the wailing through the entire battle. Still, I guess it fits when you are fighting the game's manifestation of death and despair.
for me even way back before I played the game, on first listen not knowing what this song is I fell in love with it immediately and would even listen to it for hours on end not really even sure what the context is or who the boss is. Also the comments are probably right about you needing context to fully understand this song but personally, and I'm in the minority here, the context didn't really change anything about it for me I still loved it all the same
The song definitely gave my visible confusion my first listen through... but it's really damn catchy and it's grown on me. Something about Nobuo's boss tracks that have slow buildup into a bombastic jam of a tune just gets me every time.
Having no context for a long time, my first impression of the moaning definitely gave off an uncomfortable, ominous, chaotic and desperate struggle going on with something you probably have no business fighting in the first place! It's not at the same tier of The Extreme or OWA, but it definitely grows on you. xD
It's really cool that you're reacting to tracks *while* playing the game simultaneously instead of what you've done previously where you reacted before or after you played the game!
👍
Basically you're facing an embodiment of death. it sounds a bit cheesy but in the context of the game its like "Do you give up, or face the impossible together". You die in the final fight against the main villain, but in that moment after that you stand against Death and defy it. The voices are probably just crying souls. They're there to give a vibe that you're not in a 'normal' boss fight.
@@mort6578 Which is funny, because Hades himself is in the game as well
@@WoobertAIO Hades is not the personification of death, Thanatos is
@@Zeroh95 Yeah but Thanatos inhabits Hades, so
Final Battle and You're not alone -> THE BEST
Hearing this song on my first playthrough of my first rpg, this song blew me away. I had never heard anything like it. Then when I played 8 and heard The Extreme it blew me away even more. I can see why going from 7/8 to this would feel like a step down, esp without context. Anyway, this one's certainly not the highlight of the soundtrack but I do think it fits the moment perfectly.
Lol the Disney Hercules comparison is exactly what I felt - and I had that from the context of seeing it within the game. So that's pretty interesting you'd imagine that from just hearing it.
Interesting that you mentioned it reminded you of Hercules, because the final boss was initially planned to be Hades, which was moved to be the optional hidden boss end game, and so was replaced. The battle arena is that of the image of a collesium and the underworld. So you made the connection spot on with the sounds of lost souls.
I dont blame you, when I first got to this part and the song started I remember that feeling of uncomfortable-ness with the music And the context of the game. I didnt even notice when it turned into the next phase and somewhere along the line was jamming with it cause I was in the fight for a while. I would agree this one takes a couple listens to grow on you. Also the Dissidia remix takes out the moaning lol
While not as remarkable or memorable as Dark Messenger, this one does go well with the situation. It's very uneasy, you don't know what's going on, who that guy is, where you are, what's that he's doing ah...I'm dead.
"I’m dead" cause grant cross lol
Perfectly described lol
The comparisson is unnavoidable, you are right, 7 and 8 are more memorable, but this song is much more complex due to its chaotic composition and instrumentation. The in game context is strong on this one.
Huh. Thought there would be enough people requesting "Not Alone" to clog the backlog. Apparently not lol.
Well, guess you're gonna have to listen to it raw if you reach that point then lol.
I think its coming today,he said his favorite track will be released on sunday
You know, it is actually one of my favourites even without me liking it exactly for the first time. It is VERY weird, at leats for me. But like, it makes sense when you play it. I love how it makes me unconfortable. For a game the kind of sells an idea of juvenile and fantasy and happy, you learn throught the journey that ffix can get pretty dark, and the final battle, the party entering a battle amidst a craziness of alian sound and a choir of the dead, moaning in dispair/pain/oblivion... I really do think it is a great final boss battle, even with its weirdness
Oh, completed the game 7 times, and this song always seemed like a Donkey Kong boss theme to me (except the wailings)
This is such a banger. You gotta listen to the Black Mages version, its a prog rock group by the original composer, and this version blows your mind totally
GRAND FRIGGIN CROSS!!! XD
Oh no! PTSD of thoughts of Grand Cross being cast
By the way. This track I could care less for, fun boss fight though
It was made to be creepy AF 😵
I prefer Dark Messenger, but this one has its own unique kind of energy
I'll be honest, the context is more confusing than the song.
Oooooh I love this song~
Bro when will you play Persona 5?
That’ll be a banger series. Music RUclipsr mixed with Persona !!
This doesn't work for me, because my brain excepts to hear the riffs from Cloud of Darkness after that intro.
hehe wait for it...
G R A N D C R O S S
Aw, you didn't listen to the Black Mages version of this.
I love this music... but it gives me a terrible Grand Cross flashbacks!
A wild Necron approaches!
In german it's called "Ewiges Dunkel" - means "Eternal Darkness"
i recommend that you play 6 as well some time. it hits harder than any other in the series minus 14.
This song is sus af
To be fair, the final boss is the weakest part of FF9. Kuja is better.
Right, but the music slaps.
Everything about the final boss felt superfluous to me. Unnecessary boss coming out of nowhere, music somewhat forgettable (but cool)... Dark messenger is the true final boss, change my mind.
ah yes, FF has never had a final boss that you never encounter or hear about the rest of the game. Joking aside, it did always strike me as weird as a kid, but now i really like it, and feel like that being existing fits with 9's world 100%
It's really not a big deal. But yeah, Kuja is really the big fight