Winona Ryder Calls Out her Cheating Man | The Age of Innocence | Now Playing
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Daniel Day-Lewis and Michelle Pfeiffer star in a ravishing romance about three wealthy New Yorkers caught in a tragic love triangle.
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Fun part of reading the book is just how much Newland projects that May is empty headed and naive. Like he at one point literally thinks that he will have to teach her about things, all things he likes of course. And the signs were literally all there in his face and he ignored them.
Indeed, I remember him saying in the movie, that he was looking forward to enlightening his wife, but she didn't have the faintest notion she needed to be enlightened. 😉 When he thought he was going to start traveling the world, Japan, to be precise, May showed him just how smart she was. 😉
When she says "let's talk frankly, Newland..." my blood goes cold, the world hangs by a thread. "I don't know, you might, it would be one way to settle the question" is such a real situation. So much power in her doe eyes. What a scene.
He treated May terrible. She gave him and out and still insisted he want to marry her. Then cries how miserable and bored he is later and wants to leave and feels trapped when she tells him sorry dude I'm with child. He had is chance and blames everyone but himself. So annoying.
He wasn't "bored" enough not to knock her up, it seems. He's such trash, lol. Daniel Day Lewis played this character wonderfully, all his reactions and speeches restrained and weak.
Typical male behavior and still goes on today.
May is so much smarter than he gives her credit for. This moment, and near the end when she delivers her news. She stands, towering over him, and wow… May is no dummy.
Yes , In lots of these old stories, morality changes with modern times many can clearly see that his character is utterly obnoxious
May, I think, has a sort of swarm intelligence coming from accepting the norms of her swarm and accepting her place within it. It gives her the wisdom of all the generations of women preceding her but it takese her individuality in return. To get this sort of intelligence you need to give up your individual mind and way of thinking. She makes that exchange and Madame Olenska doesn''t, whereas poor Archer gets stuck somewhere in the middle of the process which seems to be the least profitable way of all.
@@joannaplichta9677It's a bit different in the book, because May's grandmother you learn had a shameful father who left the family and her family had to work hard to get high in society again and get good marriages. So it's kind of obvious that May and her female relatives have been taught to keep up appearances as much as they can but also do what they want and manipulate it to be seen as not so bad publically. Newland knew all of this and honestly thought he was smarter than he actually was. Ellen was too naive to understand her situation and position in society, especially after she returned.
@@Ashbrash1998I don’t think May was manipulative in any way. She has every right to be impregnated by her husband, and Ellen did the right thing by leaving them alone.
Though it says something about Archer that he's sleeping with May while planning his escape with Ellen.
He was insanely self centered. She asked and he reassured her
He’s a lying coward!
I was thrilled when May confronted her weasel of a fiance.
I recall reading the novel and seeing the movie and how Newland was eager to take the role of a 'teacher' to May. And later on, during his 'bleak' hours, he assumed there was 'nothing' behind her, like she had zero thoughts. But this small scene shows that May is not 'empty' inside, she has substance but her convention taught her to withhold her true self from Newland.
He's gaslighting you, May!
Darn now I have to watch the entire movie again for the thousandth time! It never gets old
I'm almost embarrassed to admit how many times I've seen this movie.😅
I thought I was the only one! This movie is eerily perfect. Each time I see it I discover something new. And a visual feast, of course.
I can’t stand Ellen. She’s toying with him throughout the novel even though she knows he’s unavailable. How despicable.
Absolutely. I always thought most people see her as a victim and them as star-crossed lovers... this is now what the story is about. Her woe is me schtick is very selfish.
The poor woman wants a friend, a friend who is willing to at least hear about some of what she went through, which no one else is willing to do. There are a lot of similarities between Ellen and Wharton, we aren't meant to think she's a monster.
She was young and trapped in a bad marriage. She wanted to be happy and live her life - she didn’t want to believe that it was no longer possible for her. Her life was doomed at this point. It was the unfortunate circumstance of many a young women
@@lyndawilliams4570 so why she did'nt find a freeman?
He hardly knew Ellen. If they ran off, they may find they aren’t even compatible
From reading the book, they only meet about 5 times it seems. He is going to throw away his life with May for an infatuation for someone he really didn’t know.
6:53 This man can't even get through listening to her for 2 minutes. 🤨
7:45 The audacity of this man.
8:37 Triflers are timeless 😅
I bawled my eyes out after seeing this movie. I was thinking of the one who got away. He turned out to be a liar and a user. Oh well.
For me, he threw me under the bus. Talk about a deal breaker. It just recently happened so it still hurts. He was a liar too and only cared about himself.
He is a liar and I’m questioning myself if I should even feel bad for him given the fact that May presented her an option that wouldn’t even cause much damage if he had just been honest and cancelled the engagement.
Could it be that he wanted the innocent female as his wife and the worldly one as his mistress?
I think that’s the larger criticism of the male view of woman as a thing of desire while also wanting the act of corruption and the innocence. The two cannot exist at the same time and everyone is miserable for it.
Lots of men want this.
It seemed like the Countess was interested only in her conquests with men. She didn't care that Newland was unavailable or that his work was important.
She wanted her own way...
Her hypocrisy is evident when she asks
" What about May?"
She couldn't give a shit about her!
She had to be with a man or she would be too lonely...
I hate liars.
All trust is gone...forever!
Me too
I choose the bear
May knows perfectly was she was doing
the guy is a complete jerk
Complete coward
Does he go with duty, honor and convention or does he go with his gut?
Eventually, The Countess would've become bored with him and moved on..
He was blinded by his passion for her...
A life of privilege vs an exciting romance....
He would've been foolish to give up everything for her.
To me always one of Scorseses five best!
The only role that I didn’t like Michelle Pfeiffer in.
I hated the Novel and Movie! If Ellen and Newland had gotten married they wouldn’t be happy either! She would bore of him and he of her. What do they really have in common to keep them together? Passion? Then they would be shunned. He wouldn’t be able to have his career etc. He would eventually blame Ellen!
I actually feel sorry for him that he didn't find the courage to resist the expectations and pressure of society. The society was conservative and patriarchal, but women were the ones who kept order and made sure that no one accidentally slipped off the tracks. Thus, even though he was the head of the family, living in such a society, he still had to pay the price, and he spent his life without the one he really loves.
Did he really love Ellen? He might not have been happy with her if they were together long term. He did love his kids with May.
I don’t think the Countess Olenska ever wanted to be his wife. She did not want to be a wife at all. She was all about the chase, the hard to get types. It was the thrill. And Newland was kind of a selfish jerk. Like most men of that era.
The house is in Kinderhook, NY
nope
They don't make movies like this anymore..
Well yes. Richard Gere.
I have a question. Did May lie to him about being pregnant? If she did that is just as bad I think.
I don't understand these women, do they have no interest in sex and expect their partner to wait a year to have sex? They weren't able to do it outside of marriage, so wouldn't she be eager to get married as well? To just sit for a year with no sex at the peak of your hormonal urges? Just don't get it.
Can someone explain why they didn't get married
She was taken by her aunt to live and travel in Europe when she was young. She led a very unconventional life and ended up marrying a Count. He was back in New York and felt bound by the constraints of upper class society there. He had to practice law, marry, adhere to social standards, etc as the period dictated. They never aligned/crossed paths past childhood to have anything come about of it.
May decided to keep him.
For one thing, Ellen was still married. She wanted to file for divorce but New York society frowned on divorce and even moreso if initiated by the woman (yes, it was a sexist society). They also snubbed Ellen initially since although she fled from an unfaithful and possibly abusive husband, she was found out to be living with her husband's secretary who helped her escape. This detail evaporated any sympathy New York could have for Ellen until their most powerful family invited Ellen to an exclusive dinner party. At this point in the film, Newland persuaded Ellen to not get a divorce to avoid scandal. Later, when he professed to love her and wanting to marry her, she accuses him of making it impossible by stopping her from getting a divorce. Also, Newland was never strong enough to follow his heart and break the rules of society and do the decent thing.
@@raphaelledesma9393Newland was noodle-backed coward.
@@raphaelledesma9393What would've been the decent thing besides leave May out of his disaster?
Nice but bad
I found the movie to be utterly boring. No twist, just plain boring life
The thing is, none of them can even ACT
@@jaimiesalid3141 LOL. Daniel Day-Lewis, arguably one of the greatest actors of his generation and winner of three -- THREE -- Academy Awards for Best Actor...can't act? That's a good one. Winona Ryder and Michelle Pfeiffer aren't at his level, but they're not terrible actresses.
@@feverspell Winona Ryder and Michelle Pfeiffer are both highly succesful Hollywood movie stars who have made very famous and lost-lasting movies.
May was not a heroine. She was a spoiled rich girl who only cared for society's rules and status. Meh